Who Could Defeat the Rest? (Original Characters Only)

[@mynameishades2113]

See? Remember what I told you? 😊 Remove those ones godlike beings, and this poll becomes much more interesting

[@theARoberts]

100%, the licenses were just too OP 😅

[@RedRage71890]

6:33 to 8:33 I love this narration of the fight between Huntress and The Knight and his pack! Amazing job!😊

[@theARoberts]

Thank you so much! I wasn't sure how it would be received so I really appreciate that feedback!

[@Sarre_Casme]

I tried to defend huntress in the pool and I'm glad you give her a heroic ending where she of all the people The Knight defeat was his greatest opponent

[@Superficialgallery]

Dude for real this could be a thing. Good job.

[@ChaoTix.S]

Thought I was listening to MrBallen for a sec. 👀

[@eisdamme]

Yes! Would read this short story/fic (or listen to the podcast ep!)

[@Betlar]

Wow! That take one the Huntress vs Knight battle was awesome! And i think it was super realistic. I think The fight would go either way depending On if Tarhos could get up from the ground. Because like you said Huntresses oppurtunity has passed because as soon as shes in close range even without his guards I believe she could not have defeat him in a 1v1 but her stunning him from distance then knocking him down And killing him while hes dazed makes perfect sense great take on this one ✌️Basicly Knight should bring enduring to fight Huntress to lower the stun durations if he wants to guarantee the victory XD

[@theARoberts]

I'm glad you appreciate how I approached the Huntress v Knight battle 😄 I love your thought about him needing Enduring for this fight too!

[@GentleBull]

kind of a ridiculous take. her hatchets would bounce off his armor and she'd run out before inflicting any serious damage. not to mention that the pack can move/sense through walls...

[@Betlar]

@@GentleBull The point isnt to do damage but to stun him. Huntress is really strong And I believe he could be stunned at least for a couple of seconds because of the noise And The pure force of that throw And she then could close the gap then pin him to the ground while hes not able to do much. Obviously as soon as hes on his feet she stands no chance wiht the pack or without it hes the absolute master of combat but the whole Point of this take is Huntress isnt a warrior thats gonna win in a 1v1 with the best combatant in the game so far but a sneaky hunter And a merciless killer that can kill them with her approach just like with the soldiers. Ill put it this way: If they get throw in a Cage And its a clear 1v1 Knight wins hands down no doubt. But if the action is happening in a Forest of some kind Huntress has the chance to kill him by suprise because shes a skilled hunter. Its basicly an amazing warrior vs an amazing hunter. I still Dont think thats very likely because The Knight is just a menace that would probably shake off those stuns And get back on the ground Quickly And then the pack ghosts or not is a Giant threat but this take wasnt ridicolous at all. The Carnifex shaking off the hatchet is very realistic too because hes a Giant And wouldnt go down like a fly from that. So to put it simply: -Normal 1v1 with no chance of surprising stunning etc. Knight no doubt. -A fight that takes place in a area highly advantageous to Huntress: Knight probaly still wins but It would be a close call And an extremely dangerous sitatuon for him or maybe somehow the Huntress would he able to kill him before hes able to recover from the stuns. So thats it 👍

[@McMerlin11]

Dang, your Huntress v Knight story was perfect. Edit, based on the bloopers: Who WOULD win in a staring contest between Dredge and Spirit? I feel like that would go on for an eternity

[@theARoberts]

I'm so glad to know you enjoyed it! LOL that probably would be endless 😂

[@joiningbread8550]

Oni is named that because it’s what the entity interprets as an Oni. Kazan is literally the entity saying “I wanna make a Japanese demon, and you were called a Japanese demon, so I’m gonna make you my own Japanese demon.”

[@theARoberts]

Very interesting, thank you for sharing. Just curious, where does that info come from, I couldn't find it in his immediate lore but I know there's a lot of other lore sources that I may not have discovered yet.

[@joiningbread8550]

@@theARoberts it’s mostly like a canon thing from the community like how myers went into the realm on his own. I’m sorry I couldn’t find any proof for you but I heard it from the community and thought it would be pretty cool.

[@basedqacist7526]

@@theARoberts Onis are born through when a truly wicked human dies and ends up in a certain hell in buddisim. Oni certainly embodies many characteristics of a folklore oni, exhibits behaviors oni's usually have in folklore (peeling off the top knots of his victims), and possesses abilities an oni would have. There isn't any explicit oni lore stating he's a literal oni in the entities realm, but there's more signs than not showing he's a genuine wrathful demon

[@GoldKitsuneBrony]

The Dredge vs Oni fight had REALLY good debates! I think the main factor is Oni would be starved of his power since the dead limbs would have little to no blood, but Dredge would be fed his power in excess by Oni's dark thoughts and regrets.

[@theARoberts]

Very good points!

[@renroses]

the dredge sweep makes total sense! i don't think dark mist made up of bad thoughts can bleed. or get tired. also, incredible cinematic retelling of knight vs huntress! truly a battle for the ages

[@theARoberts]

Yeah, the Dredge is basically the Pyramid Head of the original characters. And thank you! I'm glad to know you enjoyed that part, I wasn't sure how it would be received so I am grateful to get the positive feedback on it!

[@snarkbotanya6557]

This is gonna be a long comment! First, I want to talk about a matchup that didn't happen in your bracket, then I'll go into some of the ones that did! I have a *very distinct* picture of how Oni actually *loses* to Spirit. When they meet on the field of battle, both of them recognize the Yamaoka blade in the other's hand. For Kazan, this makes him hesitate: it calls to mind his greatest regret of killing his own father. For all his ruthlessness, killing another of his own family is still a line he does not wish to cross, not again, not when he sees that line approaching. For Rin, it makes her *furious.* The last time she saw a man holding that blade, he had murdered her mother and was slicing her limb from limb. Any trace of rational thought departs as her nature as an onryo fully subsumes her, the curse that animates her focused entirely on one goal: *the man who holds that sword must die.* Like most here, I *loved* the cinematic description you did of the fight between Anna and Tarhos. I agree that Tarhos takes it, but it's a close fight. I also think that Tarhos would leave the fight with a healthy respect for Anna, because she would not beg for her life, but fight viciously to the very end. As a Trapper main, I may be a bit biased, but I think that he beats the Legion kids, no question. The Legion is a disorganized gang of teenagers who are in way over their heads. I can't even consider their speed much of an advantage in this fight, because it most likely just means they run faster right into a bear trap. For Trapper vs. Twins, I 100% agree with you and the community, and I would go so far as to say that Evan's strategy would likely be to *catch Victor* and use him as bait to lure Charlotte into another trap. In contrast to my thoughts on Trapper vs. Legion, I am actually *less* inclined to give him a chance in the fight against Knight than you are. Even 1v1, I don't think Evan stands a chance, as his weaponry would just be *hideously* ineffective against a man in full plate. Bringing in the guards just makes it end faster. As for Knight vs. Deathslinger, I doubt Caleb has the physical strength to reel in all 6'6" of Tarhos plus about 50 pounds of armor. More likely, he'd end up reeling *himself* towards the Knight, which, yeah, just seems like a massive tactical error on every level. Dredge taking it all makes absolute sense to me, as it's not really something that you can defeat by physical means, and the other killers don't really have access to whatever supernatural means might be used to kill it. Also, just to give everyone some good Nightmare Fuel... imagine the Dredge *with both Kazan and Tarhos in it.*

[@theARoberts]

I love your take on the Oni v Spirit battle, and 100% agree with you that that's exactly how it would go down. I'm grateful to know you enjoyed the cinematic bit for the Huntress v Knight battle, it was fun to think through and put together. I think you're spot on that Tarhos would leave that fight with respect for Anna. Biased or not, I think you're justified in what you say about Trapper v Legion and thanks for backing up my thought that Trapper would use Victor as bait against the Twins. I honestly think my thoughts on Trapper standing "an okay chance against Tarhos" must have been because I was tired by the time I reached that point in the video and not thinking clearly 😂because you're right, he stands no real chance against him for the points you said. I also think Huntress stands a better chance than him even though I gave the win to Tarhos. And you're right, Deathslinger probably could not real Tarhos in because of his weight, unless the extra strength the Entity gives many of the Killers offset that. Oh goodness 😨 I hadn't really thought about what a Dredge with Kazan and Tarhos absorbed into it actually looks like 😂

[@psylina]

The reason why killers are able to be stun with pallets is because they're entity powered. It's not that the killers themselves are vulnerable to wooden pallets it's just that the entity punishes them if a survivor does manage to drop the pallet on them.

[@theARoberts]

Is there a canonical source for this?

[@psylina]

@@theARoberts Think the gameplay itself is the canonical source, there might be something about it in tome that I didn't see but it does explain why killers like nemesis, wesker, knight, sadako, spirit and so on are able to be stopped by wooden pallets. Also kind of explains why these wooden pallets are in every environment

[@regularhooman1568]

@@theARobertsalthough this doesn’t directly say they are entity powered, Freddy’s description about his powers being tampered by the entity shows that the entity changes certain things about them like wooden pallets being a bigger annoyance to them

[@Superficialgallery]

This was a good tournament. The equation is: all original killers < Dredge < Jill

[@theARoberts]

Thank you! And 🤣 no argument here! Jill is awesome

[@Betlar]

I was excited for this vid! It was awesome to Participate in the polls. Stay awesome ARoberts 👍

[@theARoberts]

Thanks for participating! You stay awesome as well!

[@Satiire]

Schrute Farms seems like an Office reference 👀 I love that show! Great video as always! I have little knowledge with DBD but your videos never fail to keep me interested!

[@theARoberts]

Oh it's 100% an Office reference 😂 one of my favorite shirts I own! Thanks mate! I'm honored to know that I can keep you interested in DBD even without you knowing much about the game. Also, CONGRATS on 5k! 🎉🥳🎊🎈

[@Satiire]

@@theARoberts Really sorry I didn't see this earlier but THANK YOU!!😊I think DBD is a game I'd like to try at some point and I'm pretty sure I own it so I haven't really got an excuse 😅

[@theARoberts]

@@Satiire No worries mate. And when you do decide to try the game out hit me up and we'll play a few trials together 💪

[@Satiire]

@@theARoberts Sounds like a plan! Looking forward to it 🤝

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

It’s funny because this whole exercise mirrors the actual creation of the dredge in that a bunch of people tore each other apart out of fear/paranoia and the dredge emerged from that.

[@theARoberts]

Imagine how much more powerful the Dredge would become through all this 😱

[@hatsunemiku1574]

As a legion main it's kinda sad that they'll probably never win any of these tournaments but oh well lol. Perfect video as well

[@theARoberts]

I'm with you, I enjoy Legion, but of all the Killers in the realm they're among the "weakest". Strength in numbers though.

[@hatsunemiku1574]

@@theARoberts the entity gave them too much strength if Susie can take down a tough man like Leon or Bill and kill them easily

[@MossCoveredBug]

That Huntress vs Knight narration honestly sounds like the beginning of an Enemies to Lovers story.

[@theARoberts]

lol 😂

[@elenamoraru7953]

Totally unrelated to the video but maybe a video idea (?), it would be cool to see a terror radius music tier list. Some of them are so cool and for some reason I don't quite see people talk about them. Really cool video, keep up the work :)

[@theARoberts]

Thank you! And I've actually got that on the list of videos I'd like to make! I noticed a lot of the terror radius tracks are better than the corresponding chase music, so I do plan on getting to it eventually. I appreciate the suggestion!

[@cosmictaco9543]

In Knight VS Doctor, since steel is conductive, Doctors shock therapy would be very strong because the current would flow through all of the Knight’s armor. Also, amazing video! Edit: Knight would still probably win, but not by a landslide

[@theARoberts]

I definitely see you point. I still think Knight would tank the shocks because of his grit, but I agree that 1 v 1 Doc would be somewhat potent. I think what truly gives Knight the edge though is his ghostly pack, he could send them in 3 v 1 on Doc and I don't think he could do a thing against them honestly. And thank you!

[@AaronHatton]

Knights armor would behave more like a faraday cage for the knight in the battle. So doctors shocks would actually do very little against him.

[@theARoberts]

@@AaronHatton If there was no metal on skin contact from the helmet/armor I could see that. But if there was contact, it wouldn't have the same effect, would it?

[@AaronHatton]

@@theARoberts there shouldn’t be if knight is historically accurate. This is because knights back in the day wore wool, linen, or leather (on rare occasions) underneath the armor to protect against blows. All 3 of those are excellent insulators, so theoretically knight should rarely feel any shock. For his head his hair would also help insulate any shocks on his head.

[@KenoughsEnough]

I enjoy the discussion your community brings in each of these polls. They're always civil and I always learn.

[@theARoberts]

I'm really glad to hear that! I am truly proud of the majority of the community that engages in these discussions with both passion and mutual respect. I've learned a lot from them too!

[@Toastey11]

Dredge is litteraly Myers power level hes emboniment of evil. I belive in Dredge supremacy...

[@theARoberts]

That's one of the reasons I lean towards believing the Dredge could absorb even the undead or immortal characters on the original roster.

[@basedqacist7526]

I wouldve loved seeing a Kazan V. Tarhos fight breakdown! Theres many points people could make on either side winning questioning the supernatural abilities both killers possess and would prove a bloody fight to the end

[@theARoberts]

That would definitely be an epic fight!

[@AYJAY8BRO]

We need a game where we could fight other killers as killers to see who would win, the huntress or the knight

[@theARoberts]

That would be a really cool concept, but I'm sure would take a lot of programing and balancing to make work

[@scorpx3790]

I dunno if its written somewhere but i tend to believe that Knights gang died before he entered the fog so the Entity revived his gang which now obey at his orders without a hinch

[@theARoberts]

Interesting thought. The way I read his lore suggests to me that they all survived the battle as they were taken into the fog, though it is a bit vague so you might be on to something. I mean, there definitely had to be a moment where they crossed from being alive to being undead.

[@rodrigovianna7257]

I think there’s no way in overpowering the dredge the moment someone touches him all those arms and tentacles are going to rapidly start pulling you into his fog… making anyone a part of him. How do you overpower someone without touching them???

[@theARoberts]

Yeah, the Dredge is the Pyramid Head of the original characters. There's no stopping him.

[@RX8ECCA]

I have a cool idea for a video that I don't think you've done. Which maps would you most likely get sacrificed on in a trial? Like D tier being an easy escape and s tier being just hide in a locker all game.

[@theARoberts]

Interesting thought. Thank you for sharing. I might throw that out as a community poll, because let's face it, I'm so bad at Survivor that I'm putting them all in S-tier in that case 😂

[@mvinson8706]

I immediately felt like the knights basically the mountain from game of thrones. And I loved the imagery with huntress vs the knight. I'd like to see that fight lol. Awesome content as always!

[@theARoberts]

I could see that. Glad you enjoyed the Huntress v Knight part, I had some fun putting that together! Thank you!

[@oppiko]

Definite improvement from the first versus video you did Nice work bro. It was a fun video

[@theARoberts]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@22chiwi]

the one problem I’ve thought about with the Knight vs Huntress fight is one of the Knight’s perks (Hubris). I feel like he’d have been in similar situations before and would be more prepared for them. I also think the Knight would have been more resistant to being stunned, especially due to his experience and training. Although that’s my opinion. I still think you did a great job narrating the fight.

[@theARoberts]

That is a great point, hadn't considered his perks on this particular one. Interesting thought for sure. And thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@Khoobus]

The story you made about the Huntress vs. Knight was amazing!

[@theARoberts]

Thank you! I'm so glad to know you enjoyed it!

[@gachalordnoobie4911]

Now what if I used a fan on the dredge? Would he just disappear or would his supernatural nature keep him together?

[@theARoberts]

LOL that's a good question!

[@Dildo-pd4ly]

Hey I had some idea for you since you don’t seem to have done it you could do a weapon animation tier list , window vaulting on the survivor pov and pallet breaking animation I would love to see yuor tough in it

[@theARoberts]

I have all of those on my list to do eventually! Great ideas.

[@hollowdgrim12]

I feel like trickster vs legion and hillbilly vs trapper would be a better matchup. Anyway good video

[@theARoberts]

Trickster and Legion would have been cool for sure. I actually did Hillbilly vs. Trapper in the original video so I didn't want to repeat it (otherwise I agree it's a solid matchup). Thank you!

[@zachariahbest6626]

The knight can also ya know dodge her very limited hatchets

[@theARoberts]

Technically true, yes, but he's also slow in that armor and has several blind spots she could exploit.

[@ywnbye]

If we go by not only gameplay but what's has been show in múltiple instances, huntress can have Infinite hatchets cause while in idle animation on menu she keeps launching and pulling one out, meanwhile with knight's mori all underlings spawn meaning he can in fact have them all at once on the field.

[@sibsart2039]

What gets me about the Dredge is I don’t know how you would beat it. There is the idea of somehow destroying all the flesh it has absorbed over time. But if one were to do that, is it possible to fight the fog? Since it teleports you can’t really contain it. You would have to somehow attack its power essence directly

[@brandonmulryan1522]

It is like a scenario where humanity brought it into existence and the only way to remove it is to remove its source of power which is impossible since it is powered by human emotion.

[@sibsart2039]

@@brandonmulryan1522 it’s a lose lose scenario

[@brandonmulryan1522]

@@sibsart2039 lose lose

[@theARoberts]

I honestly don't think there's anyone on the original roster that could beat the Dredge because of exactly what you pointed out. I do think someone like Onryo could, but she's also a bit overpowered 😂

[@sibsart2039]

@@theARoberts Ya, one would need insane supernatural ability to actually damage the essence that is The Dredge. Maybe even someone like Pyramid Head could possible damage it based on him cutting through the Entity’s realm.

[@AssassinX-et8yc]

We js gonna forget that Wraith goes in and out of existence in the realm of the entity and not go invisible? (Only in game he goes invisible)

[@Johnsbigwick797]

That's actually very fucking true 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣. I think wraith is actually the most powerful killer tbh, seeing what he did to azarov convinced me that he can beat pyramid head.

[@theARoberts]

Yeah, someone else pointed that out to me. I had missed that he goes into the spirit dimension while cloaked. I still think he'd lose the matchup, but what I said about him getting shocked out of cloak isn't accurate.

[@Johnsbigwick797]

@@theARoberts I don't think he still loses the matchup, he's stronger than doc, faster. Doc has the power of lightning but how will he hit wraith with it if wraith can just phase out of existence, if wraith begins ringing the bell he can charge up electricity and if he times it right he can shock him and hit him but wraith can probably bait it out or uncloak behind him and charge at him he might be able to win. I think this fight is pretty 50 50

[@Deadly_Dosage]

How about hag vs skull merchant? I think this one would be a close call.

[@naturegreenr4757]

Magic vs Tech always awesome an battle

[@theARoberts]

That is a fascinating matchup!🤔 My gut reaction is that Hag would win, her magic overpowering Skull Merchant's tech, but I'll have to give that more thought.

[@AaronHatton]

Personally I believe artist is the most powerful non-licensed killer. Here’s why, first off her regeneration is extremely powerful, it’s sort of confirmed in game too. What does the artist do at the beginning of every match she grows the weapon out of her arm, with that we can conclude she can regenerate. At extremely fast speeds. Second off, artist is neigh invincible if she uses her ink in ways besides her birds. Since her ink can behave as a liquid or solid, she can theoretically just have her ink wrap around her almost like armor, it’s from the entity and I don’t think any weapon except for blighted serum. Can scratch the entity. And that’s not all we can presume that since the ink is pretty much the entity’s power then we can assume that it can cut and kill any other killer in the roster, yes that includes the licensed killers, with the exception of pyramid head and maybe sadoko. Finally, she is the entity’s chosen one. The entity loves artist, it saves her from death numerous times, and the artist doesn’t seem to mind the entity as it saves her life. Does anyone actually believe the the entity is going to let their precious chosen killer die, to some angry Japanese ghost girl. Personally, I think artist is actually capable of defeating every non licensed killer, and most licensed killers. It might take some ink blood ink sweat and ink tears, but artist can do it. TLDR, artist is basically pinhead but for the entity. -Artist Main.

[@theARoberts]

I love all your explanations here. I see what you said about her ink being plausible for sure. I would probably still argue the Dredge would be more powerful, but if all that were indeed true she'd move to 2nd most in my book. I think you've got a strong case there, thanks for sharing!

[@AaronHatton]

@@theARoberts the only reason i say she can beat the dredge, is that if what I assume is true then if entity can hold them in the realm, Artist should theoretically be able beat them now that doesn’t mean every fight will be a blow out but Artist will always have a chance at winning.

[@vrsharkyt2144]

top reason on why dredge is the hotte-

[@theARoberts]

😅😅

[@Demrogeron]

If you looking for just a bit more clarity on oni you should watch azhymovs video where he names a small detail about every killer. Thats what cleared it up for me

[@theARoberts]

Awesome, thanks for that suggestion. I love Azhymovs' videos!

[@survivalanimations]

The hunters vs knight is a bit skewed, as while the knight’s henchman may be paranormal, it’s still murky if the henchmen are 3 entities onto themselves. Or can they only be summoned by the knight one at a time. Because the legion is a couple people running around and could be doing different hunts at the same time, but the knight could only be in one hunt at a time, being constrained to only use 1 of his henchmen at a time.

[@theARoberts]

Gameplay-wise Knight is limited to one at a time otherwise he'd be OP, but lore-wise I believe he can summon all three simultaneously as evidenced by his mori. So I felt it safe to assume for this discussion that all of them could be involved in the fight at the same time, same thing for the Legion.

[@p.taylor981]

If you're going to do these tournaments is best to consider all killer as tangible, because killers like Spirit and Knight would just kind of insta win. Also I think the dredge needs physical objects to manifest. In its doll themed cosmetic it mentions how it began to decay so it used the doll bits. So if you can exhaust all the bits it accumulated it wouldn't die forever but it would not be able to fight back eventually.

[@theARoberts]

I'm assuming the Dredge can continue to "scoop up" more things to manifest, i.e. the doll or winter skins. In my mind that makes him an essentially endless threat.

[@LilGuy-hk5ro]

With the legion vs trapper 4 teens with knives could also be 4 survivors with decisive strike 😂 and that definitely can win some matches

[@theARoberts]

LOL I like the way you think 😂

[@jayrkk]

I disagree with doctor vs knight. Sure doctors weapon would be a joke to tarhos but that’s not all that doctor can do. Because of the knights heavy metal armor I think the doctor could fry him to death considering metal is a huge conductor for electricity.

[@theARoberts]

Possibly, much of the Knight's metal armor sits on top of leather. It would all be dependent on where and how the metal contacts his skin, if at all. If he's insulated, Doc couldn't do a thing. But if not, then I see your point.

[@jayrkk]

@@theARobertsWHATTT? I wasn’t expecting a response from you. Big fan btw

[@azzzmodeus_]

8:45 i hate it when the spirit blinks! gosh, so hard to outplay.

[@theARoberts]

😂I only caught that during my final review and was like "oops, too late"😂

[@NicxCoay]

Not you making me kind of ship the Huntress and the Knight. lmao. I thought you were going to say something way different than "fear." haha

[@theARoberts]

🤣 oh wow, that's a totally different direction that I could have taken it 🤣

[@blitzotheclown2495]

Hey my favorite color is red. Also you should do which maps are the best with the community

[@theARoberts]

Red's my second favorite! And great idea, I'll probably add that to the list.

[@omkarsangvikar4166]

Behaviour can make a new game mode killer vs killer. Developers: write that down... Write that down

[@theARoberts]

This would be a really fun mode! Would take a lot to make it work though

[@ducking...]

The dregde mention... We got blightes cosmetic now i want absorbed cosmetic for him (of the other Killers)

[@theARoberts]

That would be cool

[@Veniel]

Once Oni was mentioned.. that Yamaoka gene is like the Mishima gene

[@theARoberts]

Can you please expand on that? I'm not familiar with the Mishima gene

[@wraitthhh]

Amazing video, I love these!

[@theARoberts]

Thank you! I'm happy to hear that!

[@vincentwygers220]

If we go with gameplay stuff then Charlotte can just keep calling back victor right? and he just keeps regenerating infinitly

[@theARoberts]

Valid point, still think he could get caught in the traps and become bait and even regenerated he couldn't do much to hurt Trapper. Also, can she call him back or doesn't he have to be destroyed first? I thought you could just swap back and forth but granted I very rarely play Twins so I could easily just be ignorant 😂

[@ezemiori]

Nea vs Dredge?

[@theARoberts]

Of course the Entity would win 😉

[@TheTerrorNavigator]

How does the Deathslinger take down the Hillbilly? The hillbilly in his lore is capable of stealthily taking down a whole unit of police. We also know that he has no problem taking gunshots, easily being able to push through them. So how is Deathslingers speargun any different? Another point I’m trying to make is that billy is actually pretty smart and knows how to sneak up on his opponents so he may just do the same with Caleb. Add his chainsaw to the mix and I have no idea how the hell Caleb wins 😂

[@TheTerrorNavigator]

On a side note I think a battle between the hillbilly and the huntress would’ve been really interesting… or even the hillbilly vs the knight.

[@theARoberts]

So great point about his stealth, I actually was not aware of that. That could definitely change the dynamics. If Hillbilly could sneak up on Deathslinger, I'd go Hillbilly instead. That said, I don't think it would be very easy to sneak up on him because Deathslinger's an experienced bounty hunter. But, it's certainly plausible and definitely makes me rethink this one. With regards to Billy's ability to take gunshots, Deathslinger's spear is far more devastating than a 9mm round though. Hillbilly isn't just tanking that I don't think. You're absolutely right, Hillbilly v Huntress or Hillbilly v Knight would be very interesting.

[@LilGuy-hk5ro]

Not to mention that Caleb getting his bayonet between The knights plates and dealing damage would be difficult because most all plate armor had chain mail and obviously cloth under the plates

[@theARoberts]

Yeah, definitely not an easy task

[@glitcheremily8994]

My poor Plague. If she didn't go against Artist first round she probably would of gotten further in the tournament.

[@Johnsbigwick797]

Arob should put the unlucky few against each other

[@theARoberts]

Yeah, in both tournaments she got a rough start. Ironically, she's probably one of the strongest more-human characters too.

[@Johnsbigwick797]

@@theARoberts she should go against someone she can beat for once

[@Dark_Angel_Knight]

Bro that narrative battle with The Knight and The Huntress was amazing, but if it was The Knight walking out of the fog, The Huntress would probably be terrified because she would hear very loud armored thumping inside the fog.

[@theARoberts]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed that bit! The Knight would be truly terrifying to hear through the fog indeed, though I'm not quite sure the Huntress fears anything to be honest (but that's very possibly just my own head canon 😂)

[@monkeybusiness17]

I feel like the moment skull merchant touches one of the twins, the other just immidiately rips her face off 😂 of course they don't necessarily have to be close to one another but just if they are (also that's something I've been missing in DbD Gameplay, some sort of rage mechanic for the twins)

[@theARoberts]

A rage mechanic would be cool for them. They would have to be close to pull that off, and they'd have to get through that blinged out mask first 😂

[@lDontExist]

“The *spirit* can blink” Excuse me what (Obviously this is a joke, and I completely love this video and all the work you do.)

[@theARoberts]

LOL I only caught that in the final review 😂

[@Johnsbigwick797]

If Oni loses to dredge then obviously spirit will

[@theARoberts]

100%

[@Johnsbigwick797]

​@@theARoberts I mean he's her great great something grandpa so he has to be more powerful

[@anastasissitmalidis740]

I feel like the final fight should had been Nurse vs Dredge with Dredge winning since its just a big floof of nothing and cant die, I support that nurse would be a very tough competitor apart from huntress, deathslinger and trickster. Since she can basically go anywhere whenever she wants she can basically go on top of things the non ranged killers cant reach and she could teleprt bewhind them, hit them and go back to her spot and kind of do that forever.

[@theARoberts]

I definitely see your points. For me it was her fatigue that made me agree with the community. Each time she blinks she's open to attack for a short bit, which I think a lot of other characters would exploit.

[@Sarre_Casme]

The name Oni for him is here the mock and principally anger him because if the survivors name him that way he will be more angry and want to kill them more and the Entity feed on emotions so it is a way to feed itself to anger the Oni

[@theARoberts]

That's what I've heard, do you know where the source of that comes from? I couldn't find it directly in his lore but wasn't sure if it was in a tome or dev interview or something?

[@Sarre_Casme]

@@theARoberts I don't remember hit I know on emotions that's lore fact and we know that Oni is very angry when we call him Oni so it's logic

[@deadhound3228]

You should make a videos dedicated to killer vs killer stories. You could do any killer v killer and I'm positive this could be an awesome series.

[@theARoberts]

Thanks! I was curious about that, I'll definitely give it some more thought now 😀

[@xxchuck-kunxx7861]

Do one for license characters

[@theARoberts]

We essentially did that first. The original video covered the entire roster and a lot of the licensed characters ran the brackets because many of them are extremely OP. I'm afraid that doing a licensed-only version would not be distinct enough

[@sibsart2039]

Wanna point something out for Doctor Vs Knight. While I don’t think Doc can win, his weapon would be great against the knight. It’s a blunt force weapon that can taze the armored knight. However I’m sure he can take several blows while the doctor likely isn’t surviving one from the knight.

[@theARoberts]

Ah yes, I totally forgot the stick has a tesla effect, so yeah, it would be capable of doing some damage but I agree that Knight would still push through to victory, especially with his pack backing him up

[@blackchaos5275]

With the Knight in videos like this does it not count that the Knight can only send one guard at a time? Or do we just assume that he has access to all guards at once

[@Johnsbigwick797]

In the Mori he summons all 3 at once so we go based off that

[@theARoberts]

Great question! I tend to base these primarily on lore over gameplay, and since all three are present simultaneously during the mori I lean towards him being able to summon them all at once.

[@eisdamme]

Love this! My favorite color is ...too many freaking colors! But I'll go with purple for purposes of Making A Choice!

[@theARoberts]

I'm glad to hear that! Purple is a good choice but I understand loving a lot of different colors!

[@whitelampmrz]

Pinhead against The Dredge would be the ultimate final in my eyes. Though I still imagine dredge taking the win. I believe that the only things which can defeat the dredge is the entity itself, or perhaps an angelic figure of sorts- like an angel. He is based of a greek god which manifests itself by the collective thoughts of a group of people. I forgot the name of that specific god however.

[@theARoberts]

I get what you are saying. This was actually a follow up video to one where we included the licenses. Pyramid Head ultimately won that tournament, which I (mostly) agree with. In my estimation Pinhead, Pyramid Head, and Onryo are the top three most powerful, with probably the Dredge in the #4 slot. Those three are likely stronger than the Entity itself, so while I agree that compared with the original Killers, the Dredge could only be stopped by the Entity itself, those three licenses I think could overwhelm even the Dredge.

[@theanomalyfactory2649]

I like a purple colour

[@theARoberts]

Great choice

[@theredcupcake]

huntress vs the knight is very interesting.. tbh i can see both sides defeating each other

[@theARoberts]

I thought it was definitely one of the more interesting matchups!

[@ranmoses2553]

In hag blight skin it said that she used a power hex to escape so she does have more hexs

[@theARoberts]

Ah, great point! Thank you for pointing that out!

[@reis4699]

Maybe try one with just the human killers with no paranormal powers like hillbilly trapper skull merchant you know the ones that don’t have any supernatural abilities to them

[@reis4699]

So with my research the killers would be Trapper, Hillbilly, Shape/Michael, Huntress, Cannibal/Buba, Pig, Clown, Legion, Ghost Face, Deathslinger, Trickster, and Skull Merchant. No twins because Victor is technically undead I have no idea if mastermind should be included because of his virus but you can add him if you want

[@theARoberts]

This will probably be my last one on this subject for a bit because I've done 3 now recently. But that's definitely an interesting idea if I eventually return to this topic. Thanks!

[@slsbaconbits4012]

Regarding Huntress vs Knight, one good swing of an axe would crush a helmet and shatter the skull.

[@theARoberts]

Possibly, but the research I did suggests otherwise. The wearer would be very stunned, but the helmet would tank the blow without penetration or much deformity

[@slsbaconbits4012]

@@theARoberts Interesting... It took me one KZbin search to find a scrawny old dude put a dent the size of a goofball in a helmet with a smaller axe.

[@unodos2647]

Hillbilly vs Deathslinger is cap he tanked real bullets I have no doubt his speargun wouldn’t do a thing

[@thescottishmellon1141]

I agree

[@theARoberts]

True, but Deathslinger's spear gun would do way more damage than a 9mm round. Early versions disemboweled it's victims.

[@thekingpotato346]

In defense of Twins victor could also pounce on skull merchant herself and allow charlotte to attack, this also comes from a Twins main so XD

[@theARoberts]

That's fair, he probably wouldn't be too distracted by the drones either

[@heyyzoeegee]

i feel like clown would beat deathslinger. i think deathslinger is stronger and more skilled, but clown is too big to reel in 😂😂

[@theARoberts]

Yeah, he's not reeling in Clown, but I'd still argue that the Redeemer is going to do severe damage even if he can't reel him in.

[@brittanylong5293]

tbh knight may have a chance against dredge since 4 of them dredge will be focused on the minions which gives tarhos a chance to decapitate the dredge with the claymore

[@theARoberts]

The only catch is that the physical parts of the Dredge are not actually the Dredge, it's the black fog which can't be damaged. They could possibly neutralize the Dredge with their numbers and brutality, but if they cut the "head" off it will just manifest another

[@redninenine_]

about oni vs knight: TLDR: In a fight to the death, the Knight with his pack would win against the Oni. If it were one-on-one, Oni would fuck the Knight up, but the way ARoberts is holding it, with the Knight being able to summon his pack, Tarhos beats Kazan. Tarhos has fought for a long time and has much experience against many skilled foes. He is very capable of handling himself, having killed up to thirty guards on his own once. He is also perceptive, as proven by his ability to navigate a dark trapped cave (he had one slip-up, but he survived thanks to his immense strength and learned from his mistake). And that’s not mentioning his power, the Guardia Compagnia. In it is the Carnifex, a man of near-equal strength to the Knight. That’s practically a second Tarhos. There is also the Assassin that we can presume to be quite quick. And then there’s the Jailer, admittedly the weak link. He doesn’t seem to wield anything powerful besides a red hot brand, but he is armoured with plate. Still, together they were able to kill dozens, possibly hundreds of well-trained soldiers and knights coming out of it alive and well. Only the four of them could do that much. Pretty damn powerful. The Oni packs quite the punch too, which is why I say that in a one-on-one he takes the win. The Oni, being a monster of a samurai, has demonic strength, likely more than Tarhos on his own. He also has “unmatched speed” which against Tarhos would be a very helpful thing to have. Yes, one is capable of moving rather quickly in full plate, but Japanese armour allows more mobility than that. I won’t deny that Tarhos is reasonably fast as well, as stated in one of his add-ons, but I doubt he could move as fast as Kazan. Anyways, a kanabō being a very large club would most likely do something to Tarhos’ bones if we’re accounting for the speed and power Kazan has. His lack of suitable armour would be detrimental to protecting against Tarhos’ claymore though, and his katana would not be suitable against plate as it’s not what it was made for (the katana is still a very good weapon, however, and it could perhaps help with finding the chinks in his armour). Therefore, Kazan still stands a chance against Tarhos alone. But what about the Oni vs. the Knight and his pack? Things would go differently. First of all, he’d have to deal with someone else with the power of Tarhos albeit a bit slower, so the strength difference between the combatants may be mitigated. Second, there’s a very fast foe that might be able to match Kazan. That may pose a challenge when taking on the Knight and the Carnifex at the same time. Third, the Jailer can probably wear down the Oni by writing very mean messages about how he looks like an inbred ogre- I mean, repeatedly burning him with his brand. He also looks like he can take a few hits with his armour, though I don’t think he’d do much in the end seeing as how the Oni lights himself on fire when he’s angry. So it’s basically a 3.5 on 1. Still, with the combined strength of Tarhos and Sander, the speed of Durkos, and the… morale support of Alejandro, the Knight and his pack seem to come out on top, after a fairly close battle. I’m not discrediting Kazan at all. Dude was extremely powerful as a human. He slew a dozen samurai, and hundreds of enemies in battles. He did die from farmers with weapons, but keep in mind he was probably exhausted from the previous encounter with the dozen samurai, and by then the adrenaline would have seeped out leaving him even more tired. He really did the best he could then, and so given the immense strength from being possessed by an Oni, he’d probably pose a real threat to the pack. Here’s how I’d see the battle going: The Oni, looking at the Knight and his pack from a distance, draws his kanabō and charges towards them. Tarhos orders Sander forwards, and he confronts Kazan. Kazan brings his kanabō down, crushing Sander, but he just barely manages to stop his enemy from killing him. Durkos, quickly running to flank Kazan, stabs him in the back. The Oni feels nothing, and turns to attack Durkos but is interrupted by Alejandro who burns him. He turns and Sander uses this chance to swing at Kazan. But before he could connect his cleaver Kazan bats Alejandro away. This is where Tarhos comes in. Tarhos and Sander work together putting pressure on Kazan, who holds up well. Durkos attempts to cut at his arteries but struggles to get through his thick skin. The Oni even gets a swing at the Assassin, injuring him pretty heavily. Alejandro comes back and though injured, contributes well to the assault. The four of them fight like a whirlwind, like in the Knight’s lore. The kanabō eventually breaks from repeated attacks, and Kazan quickly unsheathes his katana to continue. He creates some space between himself and his assailants and finishes off Durkos. The Assassin is, while not dead, out of commission (since he’s a ghost). The combined strength of Tarhos and Sander is overwhelming, and the Oni is suffering from many injuries so far. Alejandro with his brand isn’t doing much, but it’s certainly annoying, so with a swift parry that blocks both blade-wielding men, he decides to slash at Alejandro. This time his armour fails to save him, and the Jailer is out of the fight. The katana does not perform well against Tarhos however, as his armour deflects most blows given to him no matter how strong Kazan is. Tarhos is getting tired, however, and his attacks begin to slow. Same with Sander. Seeing this, Kazan pushes Tarhos away. He turns to Sander, and with his katana and unparalleled speed cuts him down, bringing it to a one-on-one. Unfortunately for him, Tarhos still has a bit of fight left in him and is rather pissed at the fact that he downed his pack. The two have a duel, claymore against katana, and it lasts for a good bit. But eventually, the massive claymore prevails against the katana, and Kazan’s sword breaks, ending the fight with Tarhos’ claymore in Kazan’s head.

[@theARoberts]

I think you are spot on with this one, very well reasoned and thought through. I love the detail you put into it too, especially with explaining how the fight could possibly go down. My favorite part was when you talked about the Jailer writing mean messages to the Oni to piss him off and wear him down 😂 Thank you for this!

[@redninenine_]

@@theARoberts yep!

[@Boone69]

The narration of Knight vs Huntress was spot on Also this is just a little nitpick, but the s in Tarhos is pronounced like an sh sound

[@theARoberts]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed that part. I appreciate you correcting my pronunciation too! I'm picky about that as well but hadn't heard it out loud yet.

[@Boone69]

​@@theARoberts I recently discovered your channel as i am playing DbD for like 2 weeks and they are great Also in my opinion, Knight is one of the best written killers in dbd (i may be a bit biased, since i am hungarian and i main him lol)

[@theARoberts]

@@Boone69 I'm grateful to know you're enjoying the content! And I agree with you that Knight is one of the best written, I found his lore truly gripping and disturbing.

[@someonewhohadadream8578]

i think the doctor weapon would be more efficient than the huntress axe bc it's purely a blunt weapon, it doesn't have an sharp edge

[@theARoberts]

It's been a little bit since I recorded, do you mean that the Doc's weapon would be more effective against Knight than Huntress'?

[@someonewhohadadream8578]

@@theARoberts yeah, since the mace was purely designed to go against armor since blades couldn't do anything against it (or at least just some minor injuries), i might be wrong and they might be the same, but i think doctor's weapon should be more effective

[@Random-1983]

Nurse has telekinetic abilities.

[@theARoberts]

I'm assuming you're referring to her pallet/wall break animations? Or did I miss something in her lore?

[@garyntuquero8243]

For the Knight vs Huntress scenario: unless the Huntress knows to run through the Guardia Compagnia banners, I don’t think she can win the 1 v 4. Tarhos can guard the banners. Only if Huntress is circling around, running through the standards, and getting the speed boost, then the 1 v 4 could be possible for her.

[@theARoberts]

Interesting thought, the Huntress is incredibly patient and does her homework to stalk her prey, so in my mind she'd figure this out before attacking.

[@iceking366]

I wanted a knight/oni battle debate

[@theARoberts]

That would certainly be epic!

[@Abox-hh9ib]

“Im with the community on this one”

[@theARoberts]

It's pretty much my most used line at this point 😅

[@razzlistic]

I do feel like death slinger has a small chance against knight if he shoots knight in the head the knight would probably die

[@theARoberts]

Definitely possible. It would have to be a direct hit because an indirect one would very likely ricochet off but either way it would be quite a stun

[@HauntedStopwatch]

Wait can we do a battle tournament with ultra rare and legendary skins ?

[@theARoberts]

Definitely an interesting thought and one that I might run on my Community Tab for fun. Unfortunately I probably won't be able to make a video out of it.

[@HauntedStopwatch]

@@theARoberts makes sense since there will be a shorter list so it won't a long video.

[@RedTheEpicness]

Now hol on, this is just finding a needle in a haystack situation.

[@theARoberts]

😅maybe it's just because it's 1am here and I'm not thinking straight... but what do you mean 😅

[@RedTheEpicness]

@@theARoberts nah its me, i was browing YT and saw a community poll about guessing the correct perk icons out of 4 choices. The perk in question was bamboozle which is very hard to tell when altered. Anyway, KZbin somehow got my comment to this video when commenting. Sorry for the confusion.

[@gamertboy5161]

Bro gave a whole dnd campaign just to justify why the knight would win. Knight would win but not without a struggle. Now legion verse huntress. Huntress would win because the legion are teens and not ghosts so she just picks them off one by one until nothing remains of them.

[@theARoberts]

lol I had a little fun with that one. Oh and 100% agree, Legion would get cut to bits by Huntress

[@Johnsbigwick797]

​@@theARoberts But then she would get in trouble for assaulting a minor

[@Johnsbigwick797]

​@@theARoberts No 4 minors

[@kimpetras458]

There isn't any chance for the Twins to win against the Skull Merchant. Basically the Twins will be tracked down without realizing they are being seen and would certainly be ambushed and killed from behind. Adriana probably also has guns in her arsenal. As has been argued about the Hag: perhaps this is the only Hex shown in the game, but off-screen she may have a vast knowledge of Hex just as Adriana only appears with drones and a clawed arm for melee combat, but that doesn't means that outside the game it's just that.

[@theARoberts]

Something else I didn't mention in the video is that there's no way the Twins would know how to deactivate the drones. Victor could attack them if he could jump high enough. As long as the Skull Merchant could retain the element of surprise herself, I agree she'd take them down before they knew what was happening.

[@puraidoeustass]

Why do I want to write the fight scenes now?

[@theARoberts]

lol it's pretty fun to think through

[@thatfishguy4991]

Dredge absolutely wins

[@theARoberts]

Absolutely

[@RandomThings-pr9my]

You should make a survivor version

[@theARoberts]

Planning on it! 😁

[@Johnsbigwick797]

Still sad cause wraith died immediately

[@theARoberts]

You and me both, but it had to happen 😭😭😭

[@Johnsbigwick797]

​@@theARoberts I feel like you should put everyone who was immediately eliminated against each other cause surely wraith can beat someone

[@Livin_Legend25]

A lot of the matchups are questionable to make certain killers be pushed to round 2..hag vs dredge? Not dredge vs knight, hag vs legion, not huntress vs trickster, and even trapper vs billy.

[@theARoberts]

I did manually choose the matchups but that was to make them more "fair" than the first video with the whole roster where there were some truly unfair matchups. However, I didn't choose any intentionally to push certain Killers forward though as you suggest, because if I had done that I would have made sure my main made it at least to round 2 this time around. I'd argue Hag vs Dredge was definitely a more fair matchup than Hag vs Legion. As I argued in the video, Huntress v Knight was not an unfair fight at all, I do genuinely believe Huntress stands a chance and the matchup led to one of the most fun conversations I've had on this subject. And Trapper v Billy was used in the first video so I didn't want to reuse it again.

[@BoyyInterrupted]

I just think that the dredge should have some type of weakness cause to be the powerful is like idk it seems eh like oh another unstoppable creature like not like “its not possible to beat him *beats him surprisingly*” its like he CANT be beat i just think he should have some type of weakness like light makes him weaker or sumn lol also i think he can only take beings that are alive not energy such as spirit or onryo lol

[@theARoberts]

I'd argue that the Dredge probably does have a weakness, just that no one on the original character roster can capitalize on it.

[@BoyyInterrupted]

@@theARoberts so then what would be his weakness? I mean if he has or had one

[@theARoberts]

@@BoyyInterrupted I'm confident that the Onryo could psychically manipulate it, since it is the incarnation of the worst human thoughts in existence

[@BoyyInterrupted]

@@theARoberts that is actually a good one yes😩

[@RevolverR0nin]

Ya know, I made a huge argument on your last video like this, as to why Wesker can beat both Spirit and Dredge. I'm not here to argue for anyone who faced Dredge in this video, but, like my last argument, I still gotta ask: has anyone actually thought what he could actually do without those collected limbs he attacks with? And, if Dredge doesn't need them because "he's a cloud of smoke and the embodiment of evil thoughts"... then WTF does he use them? I'm just saying, there's a lot of overestimating this character. Example: in the fight with Knight, what if Knight hacked those limbs off? What if Knight summoned his guards? Can Dredge absorb what pretty much equates to 3 heavily armed and trained ghosts? A lot of people just going with the "Dredge wins lul" without actually explaining why, except for the same things everyone else says.

[@Johnsbigwick797]

I mean can knight and his pack get through all that meat

[@Johnsbigwick797]

That's ALOT of meat

[@RevolverR0nin]

@@Johnsbigwick797 🤣🤣 I mean, it's Knight. Not a typical Nea main.

[@Johnsbigwick797]

@@RevolverR0nin anyways who wins out of nemesis and spirit

[@RevolverR0nin]

@@Johnsbigwick797 Nemmy. Same concept as my Wesker vs Spirit debate. Yeah, Spirit can phase, but not forever. She's got a physical form, and if Nemesis can get his hands on her, it's a wrap. Besides, it took a fucking rail gun to finally put Nemesis down, I doubt Spirit's katana is going to do much outside of pissing him off.

[@derunfassbarebielecki]

Knights chest armor is made out of leather, so Huntress can penetrate it with ease.

[@theARoberts]

True, there is chain mail underneath which together would be very difficult to get through quickly enough

[@derunfassbarebielecki]

@@theARoberts my bad. Didn't thought about this. But due to huntress bodybuilder strength she could inflict more damage in comparison to other armour.

[@jaysilvia1177]

@@derunfassbarebielecki Agreed. A lot of people don't realize just how strong Huntress really is

[@cursedcatt2052]

Am I crazy or did Trickster not appear in this tournament?

[@theARoberts]

He did, round one - 11:31

[@sleepyritsuu]

It feels weird oni would beat blight when blight is the 2nd strongest in my opinion but I do agree with you lol

[@theARoberts]

Gameplaywise I would say Blight is extremely strong, but lore wise I just don't see Blight beating Oni (exception would be if he could somehow inject him with enough blighted serum that it would eventually destroy Oni similar to his mori on the Survivors, which I suppose is theoretically possible)

[@Johnsbigwick797]

I disagree with hillbilly vs deathslinger cause Billy has been shot before by cops so he has this

[@adonisyach]

Guns just go through the body, lore-wise, deathslinger's shots disembowel it's victims and would lead to the hillbilly dying from his organs falling out.

[@themiddletaker6801]

Deathslinger would definitely lose if he is pulling that angry chainsaw man towards him. It is like an Invitation for billy to cut him down.

[@Johnsbigwick797]

@@themiddletaker6801 true

[@CrazedKasaJizo]

@@Johnsbigwick797 The issue is that a harpoon gun to the brain is absolutely a near instant kill. That is way too much piercing force for even someone like Billy. These things subdue whales, it’s close but it’s also an each side only has one chance type of thing

[@theARoberts]

I see your point, however, Deathslinger's spear would certainly be more devastating than a 9mm round. So to me it still comes down to whether or not he can hit that one shot.

[@pagawn1640]

I honestly don’t see how doctor could beat Wraith. He’s in another dimension when he’s cloaked, so the static wouldn’t reach him. Also Wraith is a lot stronger than doctor, having the ability to pull a man’s skull out of his body.

[@theARoberts]

Ahh great point. I actually not taken into account that the Wraith enters the Spirit World when he cloaks, thanks for pointing that out! In that case, yes I agree that Doc couldn't shock Wraith out of being cloaked. His only hope would be for him to be able to stun Wraith uncloaked and leave him open to attack. I could still see a scenario where Doctor wins, but it's much closer in my mind now that you've pointed that out.

[@Teachmehowtodougiee]

I DEMAND YOU GIVE ANNA A 3RD CHANCE.

[@theARoberts]

Wait, what was the second chance???

[@Johnsbigwick797]

​@@theARobertsshe was eaten by demogorgon in the 1st tournament and then got absolutely wrecked by tarhos in this one so she needs a 3rd chance to actually win