Who has the best football academy in the world? | O’Shea & Lescott | The Debate

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@LISSoundtrack
@LISSoundtrack 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax have a very good academy. so do Manchester United. I don't think United produce as many world class recently as other clubs, but there are more United academy players in the premier league than any other team. Ajax, Barcelona, United
@seanmoazzami5183
@seanmoazzami5183 5 жыл бұрын
JACK! City?
@NeroAr7z
@NeroAr7z 5 жыл бұрын
@@seanmoazzami5183 Arsenal, Southampton, Man United and Spurs have more academy players playing in the Premier League according to an article this time last year, but with the exception of Foden or Zinchenko, city haven't really produced anything
@mfc4655
@mfc4655 5 жыл бұрын
United have gone 4000 games running with atleast an academy graduate in the team, still going
@bainsylad3867
@bainsylad3867 5 жыл бұрын
Everton
@drake6547
@drake6547 5 жыл бұрын
Nero Ar7z Zinchenko was never in the city academy. He was bought from Ufa , a Russian club
@Tyler-ys9zn
@Tyler-ys9zn 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax has the best academy no doubt they always produce young talents too bad bigger clubs snatch them 😒
@danny1178
@danny1178 5 жыл бұрын
If the bigger clubs didn't come after their players then that would mean their academy isn't that good
@jhardworkpaysoff474
@jhardworkpaysoff474 5 жыл бұрын
Utd no doubt
@jhardworkpaysoff474
@jhardworkpaysoff474 5 жыл бұрын
Utd has the best young academy look at the players from the young academy Beckham Neville brothers Paul schols Giggs Etc rashford....... The list goes on
@sohaibsanaan4139
@sohaibsanaan4139 5 жыл бұрын
@@jhardworkpaysoff474 so are we gonna ignore Lamasia
@fjfucjdi093jfe
@fjfucjdi093jfe 5 жыл бұрын
@@jhardworkpaysoff474 no doubt? LMAO
@DarthRamzan
@DarthRamzan 5 жыл бұрын
It has to be Ajax although about a decade ago you would have to say La Masia in Barcelona
@NotSosigRamsey
@NotSosigRamsey 5 жыл бұрын
without the ajax academy La Mesia would have never existed
@stevenlafferty2732
@stevenlafferty2732 5 жыл бұрын
But who has ajax produced in the last say 15 years?
@mentoshoarder5175
@mentoshoarder5175 5 жыл бұрын
@@NotSosigRamsey Players move around, it's football, get used to it. A lot of the clubs legends (most notably Cruyff) coming out of Ajax will not change the fact the Masia has produced dozens of great players. According to your logic La Masia will have "never existed" if it wasn't for Santos' academy. It's irrelevant.
@NotSosigRamsey
@NotSosigRamsey 5 жыл бұрын
youtube account What I mean is that Johan Cruijf when he came to barca he implomented the training and style of the ajax academy into barca That’s why
@sydliquid2152
@sydliquid2152 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenlafferty2732 sneijder, v d vaart , Maxwell, Ibrahimovic, Suarez, Chivu, Verthongen, Alderweireld, Eriksen, Sanchez.. you want me to continue?
@steve13191
@steve13191 5 жыл бұрын
depends on what do you mean by academy. did they come at the age of 6-12 , grew in the club or did they pay money for them when they were 15-16 like bertrand traore, sancho(watford), pogba(le havre), sterling(qpr) either way the answer isnt chelsea or city because the aim for academy is to bring players through the first team? how many first teamers from the academy made it? ajax hands down for me. then maybe barcelona.
@KMax246
@KMax246 5 жыл бұрын
But Chelsea has alot of player that have come through their academy from young and are good players now and or play for teams in top 5 European leagues. Hudson odoi, cheek, Tammy Abraham, Dominic solanke, chalobah are just some in the recent years
@steve13191
@steve13191 5 жыл бұрын
@Galva Tron it goes back. your knowledge obviously is very limited I understand, Xavi, Puyol, iniesta, cesc, bellerin, guardiola, Ivan de la Pena, Giovani dos Santos, rafinha, Thiago alcantara ,busquets, messi etc. Ajax doesn't have superior academy quality wise, but quantity wise they produce a lot. 4-5 years? Sneijder was 10 years ago, van Der vaart was even older, who else made it to top class player? if they were producing that much Netherlands would be flying. you daft
@steve13191
@steve13191 5 жыл бұрын
@@KMax246 would they break through? since Terry, only Christensen, and maybe these days ampadu, Hudson odoi, Loftus cheek touching first team squad. compare that to united, spurs, Southampton. solanke is gone. Chelsea and city have the best collection of youth cause they do pay money for the best kids in the country, but how many would make it? Christensen is a good example. Christensen played first team football every week in Germany for gladbach, that was 3 years ago, he has lost 2 years of first team football, he could have been top class by now. talent wise Christensen aint inferior than de ligt, de ligt captaining Ajax against Madrid the other day. you need opportunity,
@matthewhale7135
@matthewhale7135 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that it’s important to distinguish between players that were developed at one club but graduated at another, the problem is where exactly you draw the line. Nobody anywhere is going to claim that Giggs was a product of City’s academy despite being on their books before crossing the divide as a teen.
@tomgerrard7486
@tomgerrard7486 5 жыл бұрын
Yea ajax Barca then maybe Man Utd. Have historically had a lot of youth talent and are doing now.
@alastairwood7277
@alastairwood7277 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax has incredible academy system no arguing but Bilbao literally there whole history have all but only used their academy don't think you can look past that
@tejasmohite2651
@tejasmohite2651 5 жыл бұрын
@john doe only basque country players
@xxd92
@xxd92 5 жыл бұрын
Real Madrid academy is the best in the world
@joshf-w9602
@joshf-w9602 5 жыл бұрын
Alex94 who have the actually produced lately? Only world class player they've produced in the past 15 years is Dani Cavajal
@joshf-w9602
@joshf-w9602 5 жыл бұрын
Jaded. Well closest to world class. I mean I hate Madrid but Cavajal has been at the very least a top 3 right back in the world during some stages of his career
@AngoNL035SD
@AngoNL035SD 5 жыл бұрын
Alastair Wood thats why they almost never ever won any lol
@slimmyjimmy4708
@slimmyjimmy4708 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax and Lyon are best at bringing them through. Chelsea and Barcelona are the best when it comes to success at youth level.
@killer2434
@killer2434 5 жыл бұрын
Chelsea's loan policy makes their young players good, not their academy
@jhardworkpaysoff474
@jhardworkpaysoff474 5 жыл бұрын
Utd has the best young academy look at the players from the young academy Beckham Neville brothers Paul schols Giggs Etc rashford....... The list goes on
@slimmyjimmy4708
@slimmyjimmy4708 5 жыл бұрын
Jhardwork Pays off Class of 92 was a freak one time thing of bringing players through. Recently not as many players have come through other than Rashford that I can think off.
@slimmyjimmy4708
@slimmyjimmy4708 5 жыл бұрын
Harkanwal Sanghera The academy team has won 4/5 of the last youth FA cups. They’ve got the most youth champions leagues tied with Barcelona too.
@fjfucjdi093jfe
@fjfucjdi093jfe 5 жыл бұрын
@@killer2434 how they do it doesn't matter as long as they do it
@Amzyy
@Amzyy 5 жыл бұрын
John OShea has won more trophies including the champions league than Manchester City, Spurs and Arsenal combined.
@BryanAFC
@BryanAFC 5 жыл бұрын
Mustafi has more international trophies than Messi
@nigelriley70
@nigelriley70 5 жыл бұрын
A M idiot
@primeramarmot101
@primeramarmot101 5 жыл бұрын
Regista arsenal just got battered by Renne 😂
@BryanAFC
@BryanAFC 5 жыл бұрын
@@primeramarmot101 no worries we are 2nd leg FC under Emery
@primeramarmot101
@primeramarmot101 5 жыл бұрын
Regista nah you’re getting battered at the Emirates or at least conceding 2 😂
@Jnaga199
@Jnaga199 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax no doubt. La masia's batch of greats are on the verge of retirement. Manu has no one since the batch of 92 except for rashford. But Ajax..Ajax never stops.
@owdigene9504
@owdigene9504 5 жыл бұрын
Scott mctominay, Jesse lingard, rashford, arguably pogba. I think its unfair to say the man utd academy isn't top class
@MrAlumrocky
@MrAlumrocky 3 жыл бұрын
@@owdigene9504 u just named some of the most average players ever.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 5 жыл бұрын
Godfather of Barcelona youth academy Ajax please stand up of course they have best. Next question please Sky Sports 😒
@viniciusalmeida9754
@viniciusalmeida9754 5 жыл бұрын
You guys always sleep on South America. Flamengo, Argentinos Juniors, River Plate, Santos, Peñarol, etc.
@Etatdesiege1979
@Etatdesiege1979 5 жыл бұрын
Vinicius Almeida Navel gazing by the Brits? Impossible!
@chaopauludo7821
@chaopauludo7821 4 жыл бұрын
São Paulo is better in America
@Naadroj
@Naadroj 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that probably an ex Ajax player plays on your favorite team says enough. Talking starting eleven, bench or youth (since most of the clubs snatch Ajax youth players from their academy).
@LouieLouie.
@LouieLouie. 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax, Dinamo Zagreb, Sporting, Barcelona. The Historic Big 4 academies, different philosophies, different regions, but their record of outcome says it all.
@viniciusalmeida9754
@viniciusalmeida9754 5 жыл бұрын
Flamengo.
@PUBGNomoneynolove4314
@PUBGNomoneynolove4314 5 жыл бұрын
Barcelona is a number 0ne money Power showing of club
@dondaddan
@dondaddan 5 жыл бұрын
at the moment by default its PSG, as Paris is such a catchment area of Talent, PSG is producing so many young players, Ralf Rangnick seems to be recruiting a lot from there for the two Red bull teams, and increasingly the bundesliga too ie Zagadou at Dortmund, when Arsenal could not get Adli they went and got a former PSG youth Player Guendouzi.
@jcc1760
@jcc1760 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax no doubt at all
@92siobhanc
@92siobhanc 5 жыл бұрын
Would of been interesting to see more of Jolean's perspective. Going through the Wolves academy he got into the first team at a very young age and got that game time which a lot of kids don't get. Premier league clubs now just don't take that risk unless they are forced by injuries. Wolves only have one in the first team Morgan Gibbs White who is very talented but still is inconsistent as he is so young and direct competition is Joao Moutinho, Ruben Neves etc so it is difficult for him to get that consistent run. Saying that he has played alot more than most (all?) Teenagers in the league so he has that faith from the manager and will get plenty of opportunities instead of him going on loan.
@sachinpragraj5273
@sachinpragraj5273 5 жыл бұрын
I would put Southampton right up there
@TheDiegoo17
@TheDiegoo17 5 жыл бұрын
Not anymore unfortunately Hate when clubs go away from there foundation They was at their best when they had a core of home grown players
@Gtoelitetv
@Gtoelitetv 5 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt Athletic Bilbao...
@ay613
@ay613 5 жыл бұрын
How? Who have they produced compare to ajax
@michaeloconnor8941
@michaeloconnor8941 3 жыл бұрын
@@ay613 nurture over talent athletic Bilbao make players regardless of talent
@bondz6689
@bondz6689 5 жыл бұрын
Last 20years top 6 Barcelona,Ajax,Sporting Lisbon,Santos,man united,Bayern Munich
@Jeunelegende91
@Jeunelegende91 5 жыл бұрын
when we're talking about academies ofc we think about La masia, Ajax and Sporting, but honestly in the few past years, i'm surprised by the crazy talents coming from Clairefontaine, the french national academy, it's not about just a club but it created a crazy number of talent. +It inspired St George's Park who's taking place as a world class academy and starting to create a lot of talents for England.
@Vincentdeoliveira
@Vincentdeoliveira 5 жыл бұрын
Simple: Barcelona, Ajax, Sporting CP, Athletic Bilbao and id say Manchester United, maybe there’s a German club too?. Explicitly in the sense that academy players are through through u6-u18 to reserves and finally senior squad.
@katchafire33
@katchafire33 5 жыл бұрын
Southampton must be in the conversation!!
@danielthompson6448
@danielthompson6448 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think these pundits have enough knowledge of 'world football' to answer this, they are europe-centric
@74Cheshire
@74Cheshire 5 жыл бұрын
It's definitely either somewhere in Europe or South America though. Good point though... What are the top academies in South America? I'd honestly have no clue.
@javierorta4316
@javierorta4316 5 жыл бұрын
Brazil team Santos has a pretty good academy, where as some of Argentina's top clubs have pretty good academies
@ashishtripathi6600
@ashishtripathi6600 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, the likes of santos,boca,river plate,independente Medellin are very good in south America. I'm flustered as how everyone missed sporting's academy. It's one of the best in Europe
@Potjandorie
@Potjandorie 5 жыл бұрын
If their graduates were good enough they would end up in Europe anyway, so you do have knowledge of world football even when you are europe-centric.
@helpjdj
@helpjdj 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax best academy and Leicester have the best Scouts.
@gaara4667
@gaara4667 5 жыл бұрын
Aa 9 agreed
@jonnigil10
@jonnigil10 5 жыл бұрын
100% ajax have both bro wdym? Suarez? Ibra? Litmanen? 😂😂😂😂 go away bro
@space0612
@space0612 5 жыл бұрын
They only scouted kante Mahrez and vardy. Not consistent enough
@space0612
@space0612 5 жыл бұрын
MACCARONIVELLI 3Pac lol despite Ronaldo they are all bang average players
@space0612
@space0612 5 жыл бұрын
MACCARONIVELLI 3Pac I get it. All Portugese are professional footballers, right?
@Rathkan
@Rathkan 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax Barcelona United United have the best Class of all time with the class of 92. Also keep in mind that historic comeback was fueled by like 6 academy graduates and half the bench were under 21 academy players
@marcosm2411
@marcosm2411 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe Barca's have the best "class" they won everything at club level before the age of 21 and had a key part in Spain success in the WC and Euro.
@marcosm2411
@marcosm2411 5 жыл бұрын
@Kratos same with with Barca players most of them made their debuts when they were teenagers and a couple years later they completely dominated everyone and everything while playing amazing football. And honestly your deluded if you think no one comes close to United.
@KMax246
@KMax246 5 жыл бұрын
Bro we talking about present day .. why u on about something that happened over 2 decades ago? Chelsea's academy is head and shoulders above Manu.
@IamBatman616
@IamBatman616 5 жыл бұрын
Marcos M i have to disagree with you. Manchester United’s class of 92 are level above anyone. I agree with Mr. Kratos. For me Manchester United have the best academy. From Bubsy babes to class of 92 and now the likes of Rashford, Pogba, Lingard, Chong, Gomes, Greenwood, Pereira, Mensah its just unreal how the club with the size of Manchester United continuously brings in so many talents and play them in their first team despite the players they have signed for Big Money. Barcelona’s academy now looks no way near as good as United if you compare the younger talents coming through.
@marcosm2411
@marcosm2411 5 жыл бұрын
@@IamBatman616 what?? All but 3 of those players have played regular minutes I can easily name players that show promise from la masisa as well. Pulig, Cuenca, chumi, busquest and Alena just got promoted. And for the love of God lingard? Deulofeu is as good as him and younger
@gazno.1fan451
@gazno.1fan451 5 жыл бұрын
Chelsea has the best academy only problem is half of it is on loan 🤣
@peteriddqd
@peteriddqd 5 жыл бұрын
only half ?
@PaxBisonica89
@PaxBisonica89 5 жыл бұрын
Chelsea??? Lmao
@stevenlafferty2732
@stevenlafferty2732 5 жыл бұрын
Well the fact none there youth players get a sniff at chelsea or a half decent club in europe says otherwise
@ryanhopper2854
@ryanhopper2854 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax, Barca, United (more back in the day then now, Spurs, Dortmund, Southampton, Liverpool. Those are the best academies that I know about. And for anyone who likes MLS I think FC Dallas prolly has one of the best in North America.
@danny1178
@danny1178 5 жыл бұрын
For us soccer fc Dallas has the best academy teams, but not the best teams overall. They have probably the most teams of any club in the country honestly. They make more per year from their youth teams than they do from the professional team
@viandramonisyaf8623
@viandramonisyaf8623 5 жыл бұрын
Kratos Chong, Greenwood, Gomes, and Garner are also other players who had already made their debut and by the looks of it they are going to appear again at some point this season and if Ole got the job, I can see them four getting a lot of minutes
@lozzagateley6879
@lozzagateley6879 5 жыл бұрын
Omg liverpool more like everton
@owaweowuwu7269
@owaweowuwu7269 5 жыл бұрын
Lol....dinamo zagreb?
@garyjones407
@garyjones407 5 жыл бұрын
Spurs an Liverpool ahead of Everton are you messing
@ouroborosnagyok9306
@ouroborosnagyok9306 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax, Porto, Benfica, Lyon, Roma, Chelsea, Leverkusen, Valencia, Man Utd, Feyenoord, Milan, Barcelona, Lille, Real Madrid, Southampton, Schalke, Fiorentina
@willyschitumba5914
@willyschitumba5914 5 жыл бұрын
Benfica, Monaco, Ajax, Man Utd, Barcelona, Bilbao
@Derby-gl8wh
@Derby-gl8wh 5 жыл бұрын
La Masia (Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Icardi, Busquets), Ajax academy (too many to even count), Southampton's academy (Bale, Shearer, ), United (Class of 92, Rashford, Lingard, Pogba)
@Shirls
@Shirls 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the "best" football academy is La Masia (Barcelona Youth Academy) which produces the most amount of professional footballers compared to any other football academy in the world. Ajax also has a famous academy and Man Utd also had a famous academy back in the early 1990's which produced Scholes, Beckham, Neville Brothers etc. which all played in a super successful time for the team.
@Lukareli1
@Lukareli1 5 жыл бұрын
Partizan, the second team in Europe with most players from academy that plays at top 5 leagues
@damjanborisavljevic6867
@damjanborisavljevic6867 3 жыл бұрын
thats the point 👏👏
@Bigfitz92
@Bigfitz92 5 жыл бұрын
United has 4 academy players finishing the game at PSG. That’s not including lingard, Joel pierea, Gomes. List goes on.
@GiR1854
@GiR1854 5 жыл бұрын
United has one of the best too..The fact that Unured beat PSG with Scott,Rash and Pereira shows how good United Academy really is. United gives more chances to Academies than Chelsea
@DavidKateeba
@DavidKateeba 5 жыл бұрын
Kratos the academy is 9-16
@PaxBisonica89
@PaxBisonica89 5 жыл бұрын
Lol when is the last time a youth player from united own academy became a mainstay in the starting eleven and is worth a damn? Absolutely zero, all they do is steal players and ruin whatever prospect they have.
@GiR1854
@GiR1854 5 жыл бұрын
@@PaxBisonica89 Steal players?Why don't you just go away.Another plastic fan found😂
@thebizness5596
@thebizness5596 5 жыл бұрын
@@PaxBisonica89 Rashford, Pogba, Lingard. There is a whole batch coming through too. In fact Man Utd haven't fielded a matchday squad without an academy player since the club started. What about your club? How are they doing for academy players?
@IamBatman616
@IamBatman616 5 жыл бұрын
Simple, Manchester United. Bubsy babes, The class of 92 and even now the likes of Chong, Angel Gomes, Rashford, Pogba, Lingard, Greenwood, Fosu Mensah, Andreas Pereira, Axel Tuanzebe and many more extremely talented lads.
@DreamChaser1366
@DreamChaser1366 5 жыл бұрын
Best academies in world football: 1: Ajax 2. Barcelona 3. Chelsea 4. Anderlecht
@Rathkan
@Rathkan 5 жыл бұрын
Even though the best class of all time is 92 united but Chelsea is better?
@peteriddqd
@peteriddqd 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha nice one
@TheOriginalMegaKing
@TheOriginalMegaKing 5 жыл бұрын
But Chelsea steal from other academy’s so they haven’t really created the youth
@JR9_05
@JR9_05 5 жыл бұрын
OG Cookie Monster Chelsea over United? Bullshit
@peteriddqd
@peteriddqd 5 жыл бұрын
@@JR9_05 he doesnt know what academy is
@mcfcok1683
@mcfcok1683 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Ajax is probably the best but don't forget Benfica, Joao Felix, Bernardo Silva, Di Maria, Jan Oblak, Ederson, Renato Sanchez was insane before he left for Bayern, too, there are a lot more as well I just don't remember them
@Adamhuge7
@Adamhuge7 4 жыл бұрын
As Monaco aswell
@B3MadeIt
@B3MadeIt 5 жыл бұрын
this is the first actual good question all season on this channel, well done..
@konradwroblewski2115
@konradwroblewski2115 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax is obvious but I'd add Barcelona and Monaco to the discussion. PSG, Bayern and Milan and Man Utd also deserve a shout.
@fili0938
@fili0938 5 жыл бұрын
Barca Messi Xavi Iniesta Puyol Piqué Alba Busquets Fabregas Thiago Pedro Valdes Bartra Motta Bellerín Rafinha Reina Icardi? (He arrived at the age of 15) All of them are recent era stars.
@pelethehedgehog9444
@pelethehedgehog9444 5 жыл бұрын
In terms of best academy it’s city. But in terms of bringing through youngsters it’s either Ajax, Real Madrid or Lyon
@jeromebrowne1547
@jeromebrowne1547 5 жыл бұрын
Benfica has the best academy:Oblack,Emerson,João cancelo,and Nelson semedo( Barca), David Luiz ,lindolef, matic, renato Sanchez , witsel. Bernardo dimari guedes( All worth over 50 million in they prime some hit 💯 m. Current 7 future 🌟 🌟: ferro 25m,Yuri ruberto(10 m), florentino 25m, Ruben dias (60m) gedson(50m potentially) joão Felix (💯 m very unique creative players but plays as cf, Liverpool 61 m bid say says alot) joão Felipe(unkown but not worse than sancho 70m, wanted by real?. All 6 except Felipe debut against galasary in eroupa league.
@joshf-w9602
@joshf-w9602 5 жыл бұрын
Jerome Browne the majority of the guys you named aren't academy prospects, most joined Benfica in their early 20s.
@stevenlafferty2732
@stevenlafferty2732 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshf-w9602 lol exactly a just skimmed and noo luiz came from a brazillian academy
@jeromebrowne1547
@jeromebrowne1547 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshf-w9602 majority of the players mention indeed did not come from here but same for ajax de Jong,de beek and neres did not come from ajax academ pply.
@joshf-w9602
@joshf-w9602 5 жыл бұрын
Jerome Browne I never claimed they did however historically Ajax has produced some amazing players
@jorissauerbier824
@jorissauerbier824 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeromebrowne1547 Van de Beek played for Ajax since he was 11 years old.
@memedbengul4350
@memedbengul4350 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Monaco. They've been doing it for decades.
@peidoou
@peidoou 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgetting brazilian team. Santos, sao paulo, and even flamengo. Smh brazil has single handedly produced more talent then almost all european countries combined.
@krishna-ft1ce
@krishna-ft1ce 5 жыл бұрын
Are y'all just going to ignore Real Madrid's La Fabrica?
@peterdowney1492
@peterdowney1492 5 жыл бұрын
A possible best for Manchester United since the Busby Babes - (so not including the 7 or 8 from the 48 cup winners and 52 league champs) Also included only Roger Byrne who was older than most the others and a likely England captain and Duncan Edward from those killed in Munich air disaster because he was so clearly special, though I have put him centre back to accommodate someone in midfield, though as a midfielder probably not even Charlton was better.) J. Rimmer, G. Neville D. Edwards N. Styles R. Byrne, R. Giggs B Charlton P. Scholes D. Beckham, George Best & Mark Hughes.Since the war Manchester United have had 4 teams where academy players have been a fundamental part (In fact the class of 92 in pure numbers is the smallest of these.) Ajax is as others have mentioned one of the great producers. I think people often forget Bayern Munich who have also had some great players come through their youth system, though curiously they paid money for most of them - clearly they trawled the country paying to take from other youth systems. A special mention also for Athletic Bilbao who have to rely heavily on their 'canterra' and have with Real Madrid and Barcelona been the only clubs never relegated. Personally, I think the Barcelona team that is coming to an end has (probably) been the best ever in this respect. Though, actually Barcelona have never had anything like this before, historically they have never been like the other clubs mentioned.
@robouteguilliman1020
@robouteguilliman1020 5 жыл бұрын
The entire model of allocating TV funding to Premiership and Championship clubs needs to change. Rather than allocating increments of money on the basis of a club's finishing position, there needs to be a parallel league table ranking clubs by their grassroots performance, which in order priority would be 1) Number of British players from the club to have debuted for their national side during the previous season, 2) Number of British players to have debuted for the club during the previous season, 3) Total number of British players to have played for the club during the previous season, 4) Total number of internationally capped British players to have played for the club during the previous season. Clubs should then receive the increments of TV money on the basis of their position in this grassroots league, thereby creating significant financial incentive and competition among the clubs to develop home grown players of high quality and quantity.
@johnwee3058
@johnwee3058 5 жыл бұрын
Athletic bibliao most under rated academy
@RyAn-sj7ck
@RyAn-sj7ck 5 жыл бұрын
very interesting. not usually a fan of the debate. these two were very good
@erinchilds3152
@erinchilds3152 5 жыл бұрын
More of these two - far better than most that come on here and some others are very good too
@harun69420
@harun69420 5 жыл бұрын
It has to be Ajax but Man U & Barca are also good with their academy
@Sharkbaitoohahhahh
@Sharkbaitoohahhahh 5 жыл бұрын
City and Chelsea definitely do stockpile players. There needs to be a change of rules to stop them doing that because it stops a lot of other clubs from getting a developing young talent. Southampton has one of the best youth Academy's in England, but since the surge of Chelsea and City's they haven't produced as many recently. Ajax deffo have the best, lots of class players. Barca are close behind as well. Can't look past United either, Rashford is class and even with Jose not giving youth a chance you've got players like McTominay making the first team and shepherding the midfield against PSG!
@MrCeltic12
@MrCeltic12 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax, Lyon ,benfica , Barca
@reddevilsunited7780
@reddevilsunited7780 5 жыл бұрын
MAN UNITED had 5 Academy grads playing against PSG in the 3-0 win.
@donalpower619
@donalpower619 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax Barcelona Bilbao Lyon Manchester United Dortmund Spurs
@immad120
@immad120 5 жыл бұрын
True
@demtings7485
@demtings7485 5 жыл бұрын
Donal Power Man U how?
@yOungjhOna
@yOungjhOna 5 жыл бұрын
Demtings you’re really going yo question Uniteds youth academy lol?
@jhardworkpaysoff474
@jhardworkpaysoff474 5 жыл бұрын
Utd has the best young academy look at the players from the young academy Beckham Neville brothers Paul schols Giggs Etc rashford....... The list goes on
@Alkhemy84
@Alkhemy84 5 жыл бұрын
pogba too
@synthesizerpatel7405
@synthesizerpatel7405 5 жыл бұрын
Bit of a gap between the first 4 on your list and Rashford, though. They went a long while where the most impressive player to recently come through their academy was Darren Fletcher.
@Alkhemy84
@Alkhemy84 5 жыл бұрын
@@synthesizerpatel7405 hey darren fletcher was quality. Also don't forget Danny drinkwater and Danny Simpson who were integral parts of Leicester's title winning season
@synthesizerpatel7405
@synthesizerpatel7405 5 жыл бұрын
KingCantona14 yeah I wasn’t slagging Fletcher off, he was a great player. But when you take into account that he was the best player United produced for about 20 years it’s not so impressive.
@Alkhemy84
@Alkhemy84 5 жыл бұрын
@@synthesizerpatel7405 i feel you. we haven't brought in many players into the first team but we do have a few players that went on to be mainstays in premier league sides
@hugorodrigues6928
@hugorodrigues6928 5 жыл бұрын
Benfica academy is the number 2 in the moment, oblak,Ederson, lindlof,Rúben dias,ferro,João cancelo, Nelson Semedo, Renato Sanches,André Gomes, florentino luis, gedson fernandes, Gonçalo guedes, João Félix etc....
@saint1944
@saint1944 5 жыл бұрын
They don't even answer the question 😂 1. Southampton. 2. Ajax 3. Barcelona 4. Man Utd 5. Sporting Lisbon 6. Lyon
@owaweowuwu7269
@owaweowuwu7269 5 жыл бұрын
Dinamo zagreb?
@dylandickeson2929
@dylandickeson2929 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax and barca both have amazing youth academies, ironically cruyff (of ajax) is the one who made la masia what it is today.
@hb-kw4mr
@hb-kw4mr 5 жыл бұрын
Also in 2009 cruijff started the iron revolution within ajax, to start educating again and using youth to progress. Look what it did, 10 years later. ::)) cruijff is a hero!
@denonjoka8848
@denonjoka8848 5 жыл бұрын
I Say The Teams With The Best Academies are:- 1. Ajax Amsterdam, 2. Manchester United, 3. FC Barcelona and 4. Borrussia Dortmund As I Say The Class of 1992 of Manchester United of David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes is The Best Legendary Team Followed By Now Players From Manchester United Academies Now are Jesse Lingard, Marcus Rashford, Mason Greenwood and Thong Chong As Manchester United Has The Best Academy As I Say That Academies are The Future of Football Clubs Than Money As Marcus Rashford and Jesse Lingard Have Proved That in Manchester United.
@joaoteixeira211
@joaoteixeira211 5 жыл бұрын
No Debating this, Benfica!!!!
@PyroCham
@PyroCham 5 жыл бұрын
I think you should look at the list of players that Ajax has produced over the years. Not just the players that reached professional level of football, but also reached legendary status. You'll see for yourself that Ajax has the better academy. They still produce exceptional talents. Just take a look at De Jong and De Ligt at this moment.
@joshf-w9602
@joshf-w9602 5 жыл бұрын
PyroCham De Jong is from Willem II
@SaintPhoenixx
@SaintPhoenixx 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax, Southampton, United and Barcelona are the top 4 best academies (not in that order).
@TroyNoak47
@TroyNoak47 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax, Porto, Benfica, Lyon, and Barcelona
@bigsmoke9876
@bigsmoke9876 5 жыл бұрын
AS Monaco anyone who disagrees needs to utilise google.
@hakimziyech3000
@hakimziyech3000 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax and Barcelona has the best academy and both of them have best scout as well
@weltenman
@weltenman 5 жыл бұрын
Jaysus, some tough questions there, asking a Man City employee if he thinks they are stockpiling players. What was he going to say? "Yes we are and we should be stopped!"
@killer2434
@killer2434 5 жыл бұрын
why are people commenting chelsea 😂 their academy is crap they just loan all their players out and hope they turn out good
@thesten6982
@thesten6982 5 жыл бұрын
Most successful club in the world at under 18s, 19s, 21s etc, Chelsea just don't bring them through to the 1st team
@ticklemetrout9625
@ticklemetrout9625 5 жыл бұрын
Harkanwal Sanghera stick to fifa real football obs isn’t for you ✌️
@hadgh2666
@hadgh2666 5 жыл бұрын
Barcelona. Lionel Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol. Legends
@mcd6163
@mcd6163 5 жыл бұрын
had gh without Ajax, Barcelona wouldn't be what they are now
@madlad1385
@madlad1385 5 жыл бұрын
1. Ajax 2. Barcelona 3. Manchester united 4. Dortmund(?) 5. Bayern (?)
@rafaelaraujo9088
@rafaelaraujo9088 5 жыл бұрын
Ahahahaha bayern, Dortmund?? Where is benfica, Sporting, anderlecht?? One thing is creating players, another is developing them
@saint1944
@saint1944 5 жыл бұрын
Southampton?
@L9ines
@L9ines 5 жыл бұрын
Where’s Chelsea ? They have one of the most successfull youth teams behind Barcelona
@lozzagateley6879
@lozzagateley6879 5 жыл бұрын
Everton
@vita24733
@vita24733 5 жыл бұрын
Man untied? Wtf
@coachtechnique
@coachtechnique 5 жыл бұрын
Im coaching youth in a non-league club. I love the facilities but It would be a dream to work at a world-class Academy
@ansh2688
@ansh2688 5 жыл бұрын
So what😂
@coachtechnique
@coachtechnique 5 жыл бұрын
​@@ansh2688 :) yes
@jcquinx98
@jcquinx98 5 жыл бұрын
No mention of South American clubs really? Also Shalke 04 definitely have to be up there. Of course everyone is saying Ajax because of their recent result. Ajax, Flamengo, Santos, Barcelona, United, Shalke, West Ham, and Athletic Bilbao are definitely among the best. Debate can be made to include Hamburg SV as well.
@therambler3713
@therambler3713 5 жыл бұрын
1.Ajax 2. Barcelona 3. Man United
@gavinpage1121
@gavinpage1121 4 жыл бұрын
Is this even a debate? Yes barcelona produced messi, iniesta, xavi, busquets, pre man utd pique. Ajax though 8 of those starting 11 that took ajax to the cl semi finals were graduates from the ajax academy. And all of them with there careers just getting started
@PH-jh6jq
@PH-jh6jq 5 жыл бұрын
John "I should've been a plumber, was fortunate to nutmeg Figo" O' Shea
@Marjopolo302
@Marjopolo302 5 жыл бұрын
John knows his football, make a great manager me thinks.
@asapfargo1701
@asapfargo1701 5 жыл бұрын
SL Benfica, Sporting CP??
@micah0190
@micah0190 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely Ajax hands down. Would also mention Lyon as well
@LouieLouie.
@LouieLouie. 5 жыл бұрын
There is a big difference between having kids fro the age of 6 - 13 doing 10 12 years in a youth systeam and buying 21 and 22 years old kids from brazil and argentina and putting them in the first team. I dont consider that academie products. Ajax, Sporting, Dinamo and Barcelona actually have most of their great football names coming through actual academy systeam, a lot of other clubs in Europe like Shakhtar Benfica Porto and maybe even PSV they do more of the second which is very profitable and show very good scouting but are not at all youth academies like the the historical ones. most of the greats names out of this last group of clubs all arrived at the clubs over the age of 20. Ronaldo was younger when he debuted at United does it make him a United Youth systeam product?
@danielchamberlain4309
@danielchamberlain4309 5 жыл бұрын
ajax has the best youth ever
@ultrashaggy6703
@ultrashaggy6703 5 жыл бұрын
That 1 dislike was a PSG fanboy
@DhruvSirohi22
@DhruvSirohi22 5 жыл бұрын
Do they even know what is an academy 😂 ??
@DhruvSirohi22
@DhruvSirohi22 5 жыл бұрын
@Claudio Dio Apologies for that. The oil money made me think otherwise 🤐
@GCSUPPLY
@GCSUPPLY 5 жыл бұрын
At the moment? Ajax and Benfica for sure
@LatchedLungs
@LatchedLungs 5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe people are naming other clubs than these two tbh
@TidyDisarray
@TidyDisarray 2 жыл бұрын
At the moment is like what.. last two seasons? If yes, maybe but in the last 20 years is Ajax-Barca-Sporting-Dínamo Zagreb
@akindenchwa1402
@akindenchwa1402 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax, Southampton, Barca.
@lp7le342
@lp7le342 5 жыл бұрын
In term of the current best academy in the world it's easily Chelsea. 5 FA Cup in a row and more importantly 3 out of the last 4 UCL final. Chelsea scout are actually really underrated they scouted Mbappe himself when no one could. It's just the way the club is run, if they run their club like BVB, Ajax, Spurs and Barca they could be easily top 3 in the world.
@callumpettitt8192
@callumpettitt8192 5 жыл бұрын
You mean if they didn't sign young players illegally?
@marinbarac591
@marinbarac591 5 жыл бұрын
Sporting Lisboa, Ajax Amsterdam, Barcelona and lately Lyon
@mre3140
@mre3140 5 жыл бұрын
Is that even a question? Ajax ofcourse, followed by Lyon
@hihelloimaconfusedseagull2330
@hihelloimaconfusedseagull2330 5 жыл бұрын
I would say Ajax, obviously, but in my country it's Krasnodar Academy
@neosgaming1
@neosgaming1 5 жыл бұрын
I would lower it from under 23 to under 20s and let the young lads go and play proffesionally and gain experience is just my opinion
@Ben-ud7ze
@Ben-ud7ze 5 жыл бұрын
Best academies in the world: West Ham Ajax Southampton Leeds Arsenal Manchester United Dortmund Tottenham
@ajwilmink9111
@ajwilmink9111 5 жыл бұрын
Ben 29 LMAOOOOOOOOO
@Adamhuge7
@Adamhuge7 4 жыл бұрын
Tottenham😂😂
@christiandawit612
@christiandawit612 2 жыл бұрын
Arsenal and tottenham lmaooooooooo
@Secret19977
@Secret19977 5 жыл бұрын
Would say Ajax Barcelona Dortmund Manchester United. Chelsea
@dazzaMusic
@dazzaMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Ajax is probably the best along with Porto the fact that they are called selling clubs but still manage to make Champions league every season
@inticfc7734
@inticfc7734 5 жыл бұрын
Chelsea and not even exaggerating.
@HollywoodModelling
@HollywoodModelling 5 жыл бұрын
The awkward pause Leacott made when asked who has benefited the most says it all.. no one has! The system is broken.. look at the Chelsea loan army.. they just never will make it.
@tyronenaidoo6675
@tyronenaidoo6675 5 жыл бұрын
Man utd, if you look at the amount of youth players that are in the premier league and the championship
@chrisparsons3314
@chrisparsons3314 5 жыл бұрын
Most underrated academy right now is Glasgow Rangers
@chrisdix2089
@chrisdix2089 5 жыл бұрын
OUR academy in Montenegro is the BEST in the world , FREE for kids 10-15 years old, but according to the politics we are in "bandit country" so few know about this :p
@God-tz5uf
@God-tz5uf 5 жыл бұрын
Everton do: Rooney Calvert-lewin Davies Kenny Jagielka
@gamingcentralodg9430
@gamingcentralodg9430 5 жыл бұрын
All shite apart from Rooney Jags Sheffield Utd academy
@mdg1867
@mdg1867 5 жыл бұрын
2 of those came from another, Jagielka and Calvert Lewin
@Ipoelie
@Ipoelie 3 жыл бұрын
If there was a rule that you have to have 50% of homegrown players in your squad, Ajax would be top of European football every year.
@Sudorcete
@Sudorcete 2 жыл бұрын
Pep Guardiola, Carles Puyol, Gerard Pique, Jordi Alba, Sergi Busquets, Gavi, Ansu Fati, Araujo, Cesc Fabregas ... for a desert the only football academy to place 3 players as the 3 best in the world in 1 year (Messi, Xavi & Iniesta) or play amazing football in champions league with 11 players from the academy in the pitch, END OF DISCUSSION ... . For the other clubs keep trying ... .
@pqknowlesy6695
@pqknowlesy6695 5 жыл бұрын
Hi love your vids
@manjotsinghrattan1382
@manjotsinghrattan1382 5 жыл бұрын
The argument is between Ajax and la Masia
@TheOriginalMegaKing
@TheOriginalMegaKing 5 жыл бұрын
Probly Ajax, Southampton & then Leeds
@ChrisPMT
@ChrisPMT 5 жыл бұрын
MegaKINGRICHARD legend for mentioning Leeds
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