Who is a Better Center between Olajuwon and Jokic??

[@elizabethsteele4633]

Excellent video . They are completely different players . Hakeem was one of the best athletes to ever play in the NBA and was a defensive terror . Jokic has a deep bag of tricks and he sees the floor like no-one else . I'd say it's a toss up . .

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

💪🏾💪🏾💯💯🔥 thank you for the support!

[@minnuss]

When individuals compare Jokic to others, they often do so in a one-on-one context. However, Jokic operates within a team dynamic, playing in a five-on-five format. He utilizes his teammates in a manner reminiscent of the best point guards, while also integrating his individual scoring skills into a unique approach, resembling a hybrid player that is unprecedented in the sport. This is where misunderstandings arise in comparisons involving Jokic. While it is possible that Hakeem may excel in a one-on-one scenario, basketball is fundamentally a team sport that relies on collaboration to achieve victory. Over the past 30 years, no player has demonstrated a greater ability to elevate and engage teammates than Jokic. As LeBron James noted in an interview, there are exceptional one-on-one players, but true excellence in basketball also requires intelligence and a high basketball IQ, especially in critical moments when facing double teams. With Jokic on the court, constant awareness is essential. Whether he is driving the ball or positioned at the three-point line, he presents a scoring threat from all areas of the floor, distinguishing him from traditional centers who typically focus their efforts in the post.

[@ACTS-1631]

@@minnuss This entire comment fails to acknowledge the fact outside of Jokic and Bron, Hakeem did the most ever for his team, multiple quadruple doubles? He elevated his team every single night on both ends of the court because yes defense matters in a team dynamic system. Hakeem statistically had some of the hardest paths to a chip ever with the least amount of star help.

[@ACTS-1631]

@@minnuss Having a threat from the 3 doesn't matter if guys like Shaq and Hakeem are unstoppable WITH the bags they have, so your logic means ad is better than them? Hakeem posed far more of an offensive threat and the stats prove this, he had games and playoff series looking like 01 Shaq except he could actually shoot the midrange at an elite level. He was also a far better rebounder and was a bigger offensive rebound threat than Jokic.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

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[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

Hakeem Olinjawon Regular Season: Def Rebs: 7.8 Off Rebs: 3.3 Total Rebs: 11.1 Post Season: Def Rebs: 7.9 Off Rebs: 3.2 Total Rebs: 11.2 Jokic Def Rebs: 8.1 Off Rebs: 2.6 Total Rebs: 10.7 Post Season: Def Rebs: 9.1 Off Rebs: 3.2 Total Rebs: 12.3

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

He wasn’t that far off in Rebs against Hakeem

[@WillieRLopez]

Hakeem the "DR34M" Olajuwon

[@maliminja]

I like this...For me personaly two best centers ever played the game...Ok Wilt ,Shaq,Russel etc were dominant but not complete as these two...Dream in greatest footwork and defence and Joker in his IQ,reading the game like no center before...amazing talents and generational players...no need to compare them...for me they are neck to neck...

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

Respect 🫡

[@Daba-g3i]

Srećno🎉🎉

[@ThatsWhatSheSaid9492]

white European guy here and a Bulls fan. Hakeem hands down was better. 2 consecutive rings. nuff said. Even if Jordan was in the Bulls at that period, he would still have won at least 1. Not even Rodman could stop him or Shaq. What opposition does Joker have? Embiid?? n-word please...

[@layuponthedownlow]

Ive been watching NBA since 92-93 playoffs. My top 5 centers since 93 playoffs: 1. Olajuwon 🚀 2. Jokic 🗻 3. Ben wallace 🐎 4. Theo ratliff 7⃣6⃣ 5. Divac 👑 I didn't put shaq bcoz he uses his elbow before he dunks, which should be an offensive foul, but NBA refs don't call it. Maybe if he stayed in orlando, he can be top 3 bcoz orlando magic shaq don't use elbow to make his dunks

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

No Malone?

[@layuponthedownlow]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 i wasn't able to see moses malone. I started watching NBA in 1993 playoffs. #1 Olajuwon bcoz of blocks, steals, best post play and can also shoot 3s. But during that time centers were not allowed, also ewing capable of making 3s. #2 jokic best passer, steph curry range 3. #3 ben wallace strongest, scariest. blocks, steals, speed #4 theo ratliff blocks, speed #5 divac passing #6 dwight howard (not serious player)

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@layuponthedownlow Karl Malone

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@layuponthedownlow I forgot it was two Malone’s 😂

[@KennethMangum]

Hakeem olajuwon was great on both sides of the ball hands down top three greatest center to ever do it

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

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[@ACTS-1631]

Jokic is absolutely like that, but offensively he only takes the 3 ball. He dominated the game like prime shaq except he had wayyy better footwork and the midrange, and would've unanimously been the best player in the 90s if not for Mj existing. Even Jordan himself said they had no answer for him. Hakeem is arguably the greatest big man defender of all time i think he edges it out over Bill russel and timmy D. Let's not forget he statistically had some of the hardest paths to a chip ever with little help

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 that’s true!! I believe that Jokic took necessary 3’s if it’s given to him, but some of his points are also in the midrange/paint area

[@SurprisedAlpineSkiing-fg5mo]

Jokic will destroy hakeem with his basketball IQ..AND ALL NBA CENTERS.. BECAUSE JOKER IS A TEAM PLAYER.. A GOOD FACILITATOR,, HE MAKES EVERY ONE BETTER AND INVOLVED.. THAT 'S BASKETBALL IS..

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

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[@ziginaigra]

kid spotted🤣

[@tylerriley2587]

Oljuawon played Soccer before playing in the NBA.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

I did not know that!! Which is probably wow he has amazing footwork

[@bogoljubdjordjevic7528]

If I choose for 1 on 1 match then Hakim but if I choose for team Joker!

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

That make sense family!!

[@Truth_Make_You_Free]

Joker is my guy but Dream is better. Diff eras, diff rules.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

I respect that family

[@nedajtesepasjimsinovima]

Hakeem.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

What’s your reason family?

[@nedajtesepasjimsinovima]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 Among other reasons: the greater competitiveness of the epoch in which Hakeem played and still had two championship rings; the fact he managed to have his accomplishments while having giants like Kareem, Barkley, O' Neal, Robinson as mismatch opponents, as opposed to Jokić having third grade centers and clowns against him now, in the times when centers are the symbols of basketball decadence; the unforgettable style and diversity of Hakeem's technique (a center doesn't have to shoot threes, especially if he has so many other classic center qualities); the longevity of Hakeem's top game, also what Jokić is yet to reach; (...)

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@nedajtesepasjimsinovima is yet to reach. So do you believe Jokic has a chance of reaching Hakeem’s accolades? Do you you think Jokic can do things he is doing now back in Hakeem time? Your comments are great btw 💪🏾💪🏾💯

[@nedajtesepasjimsinovima]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 Thank you. Sorry about my English. Appreciate a good basketball talk. Aesthetically, I don't think he can reach Hakeem's level, and the achievements I've mentioned have different values due to context and history. As we don't have any gates of time for both of them to enter, it is not easy to even discuss this. Also, to obtain sympathies, it doesn't help Jokić that he publicly supported Serbia's dictator and one Putin's greatest allies, Aleksandar Vučić, an insane politician who is also doing his best to destroy ecology, economy, culture and sports in their own country.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@nedajtesepasjimsinovima wow!! That’s new to me family!!

[@irshadpthenryprimetimehenr4356]

Hakeem would crush joker

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

What’s your reason behind it family?

[@ziginaigra]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 because he was just better 😂

[@Apple_Teck]

Is this a REAL question?

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

So you agree too huh? 😂

[@Apple_Teck]

This ain’t even even close.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

Lol so what’s your thoughts about it? And what makes it valid)

[@Apple_Teck]

Hakeem is a top 50 player. The other guy is not. Enough said.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@Apple_Teck you don’t think he can become one of the players to be on the next list? Plus, it’s players that’s not on the 75th anniversary list that should be on there

[@Apple_Teck]

These dudes today have a long long way to go before they are even considered in the NBA’s Top 75.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@Apple_Teck I definitely think Jokic will be there soon because of the work and his accolades. He will most definitely get another ring before his time is up in the league

[@chrisdragoonkevin384]

Hakeem has a complete package. A two way player. Plus he is a true Superstar. I mean Jokic is great too, but only because the NBA today is very soft and not competitive, No defense. While, Olajuwon is a lock down defender. I would like to see this match on NBA 2K, I'm sure this going to be an easy win for Hakeem.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

1 vs. 1, how many points you think Hakeem can beat Jokic by?

[@chrisdragoonkevin384]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 I think Jokic would have a very hard time scoring on Hakeem. The Dream wins by 15+ PTS. I have other Superstars in mind. KG, Giannis, Amare, J Oneal, C Webb, TD and Yao Ming. I'm sure this list vs Jokic would be amazing to see.

[@terrencefields5265]

Hey put the joker on Akeem team and give Akeem his team and see the difference, because Akeem never had great team mates and your decision only shows your youth and inexperience.😎

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

I hear you brother. So Clyde Drexler wasn’t on Houston when Hakeem got a ring? Clyde is in the 50 greatest nba players correct? And who else besides Jamal Murray and Michael Porter jr that was good? Just like Hakeem team, they have great chemistry. If you would switch Jokic, same thing

[@blackgruya011]

Hakeem had no 3pts, no assists..... and you choose agility as measure? pfff

[@ACTS-1631]

@@blackgruya011 Hakeem had multiple quadruple doubles he could definitely pass, he also was better than Jokic in every aspect scoring wise except 3s and was more impactful with it. And you completely disregarded defense because you know Jokic isn't close

[@blackgruya011]

@@ACTS-1631 He "could" but didnt. You cant at same time count adventages for one side and deny to other. All in general Jokic is better overall and someone who boost his team. Dont get me wrong, I am a big fan of Hakeem, but basketball changes as other sports, and gets more advanced. Its evolution. Some day in future some other player will show up and beat both of these guys.

[@ziginaigra]

@@blackgruya011 so in your head centers need to shot 3s and pass ?😂

[@ziginaigra]

why would for example shaq shot 3(even if he could lol) and pass ?whan he can just get high % bucket form close range

[@blackgruya011]

@@ziginaigra brother, he couldnt score free throws, what are you talking about? NBA tolerated his pushing and beating people. 50% of his actions was charging and fouls

[@DarkDarkXIV]

Joker never made an all defensive team. Joker never went up against a player like The Dream, who has superior footwork and post moves in the paint. People want to bring up the 3 like Joker is going to make all of them.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

You got Giannis. He is a really good player in the post

[@DarkDarkXIV]

@mentalmindedbasketball7613 No, he's not. There aren't any big men like the 90s and 2000s that were actually solid defenders in today's game. Giannis just uses his strength and bullies his way to the basket. Kevin Garrnet Tim Duncan and Shaq are perfect examples of having over 5 moves (skill) in their arsenal. Plus he wouldn't be able to back down Ben Wallace like that or Dwight Howard in their primes.

[@DarkDarkXIV]

What big man today is moving like this in the paint and has over 5 to 10 moves like this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZitqmOApLZqiqssi=txgtC7Kh7Rce9jG6

[@DarkDarkXIV]

@mentalmindedbasketball7613 Chris Webber was doing what Jokic was doing decades before he got in the league but was faster. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX-VgH93bNKGj5Ysi=0ps7OZqudHJnIUfP

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@DarkDarkXIV got got!! But both Ben and Dwight have to come out that paint to guard Jokic out on the perimeter, which makes him a threat. Am I saying he will make all of them, no, but they will have to respect his jumper. Plus, Jokic is not a small Big, he’ll get in the paint at times

[@hufinnpuff3068]

Bullshit comparison. Wait til Joker retires.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

Speak what’s on your mind fam.

[@julianthegrappler]

Only thing keem didn’t have was a three. Jokic don’t play defense.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

True indeed, but do you take that away from him being better? 🤔🤔💯💯

[@julianthegrappler]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 Hakeem cooking jokic 1v1. Hakeem can pass also he was just in a score first role, assist aren’t the only way of telling if someone is a good passer. Hakeem was playing in the 90s with less spacing which makes it harder to get a triple double. Hakeem has a quadruple double, and jokic doesn’t. Plus he was playing in the prime big man era against Shaq, Robinson, Ewing, and Malone.He also had Jordan getting in the way of his MVPs. MJ himself said that he was the biggest threat to his success.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

This is really great my guy!! Very good pointers!! So who could you compare Hakeem to in today’s game?

[@julianthegrappler]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 I would say embiid if he could keep the weight off and stay healthy.😂

[@justkason7854]

Hakeem most definitely cooking jokic 1v1

[@virtuoso_runway]

Jokic hits game winning 3s at the center spot. Hakeem hits layups with no 3 point ability. Ant man is right, whatever the jordan era can do, this era can do but a billion times better. Old heads need to embrace the future, rather than go through metapause

[@ACTS-1631]

@@virtuoso_runway You fail to acknowledge that these players were just as if not more effective without the 3ball thats why it wasn't utilized. Hakeem was hitting plenty game winning 2s in the PLAYOFFS, ON elite defenders like David Robinson who Jokic has never came close to facing. It doesnt matter how you win the game if you score the bucket. Had they needed it back then they could absolutely shoot it. I mean this logic is so dumb there are non NBA players who thrive on the 3 so you really think legends growing up in this era wouldn't learn it and dominate??

[@ACTS-1631]

@@virtuoso_runway Fact is Hakeem was more effective with his entire offensive bag than Jokic. He can only shoot 3s and pass better and he isn't in the same league defensively as Hakeem.

[@ziginaigra]

are u 13?

[@ziginaigra]

Is this even a question? lol if jokic played in 90s he would now have 0 rings and 0 mvps

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

Well you have to think family, the 90’s Jordan owned it, besides the 2 years Houston won. And if Jordan wouldn’t retire, Hakeem would of been in the same position of having no rings

[@ziginaigra]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 so u are saying he have mvp and ring now just because he play in weak era ok😀

[@borisbalta2542]

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[@borisbalta2542]

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[@ziginaigra]

@@borisbalta2542 ali to je svima jasno

[@nunya_bizniz]

Hakeem would destroy this man.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

So what’s your reasoning family?

[@nunya_bizniz]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 eye test and the dreams's defense.

[@ryandecibar8826]

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[@maliminja]

Hakeem is better but he would NOT destroy Joker...the difference is much smaller that you think...plus Joker have 7-8 years to prove im right...

[@istina86]

Hakeem would not be able to guard Jokic because Jokic is heavier and stronger and has perfect technique and is the most intelligent player ever

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

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[@rahim9nine]

Jokic is not stronger 🤣

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@rahim9nine idk about that one.

[@rahim9nine]

@@mentalmindedbasketball7613 strength comes massively from fast twitch fibres. Hakeem was a lean, explosive athletic West African who are genetically predisposed to a high number of fast twitch fibers. Jokic Is a chubby unathletic guy whos skill comes from his finesse, iq & footwork. Hakeem had all that plus explosive athleticism which would definitely correlate to strength. Plus there's numerous guys including the strongest nba player ever In shaq talking about Hakeems strength, & shaq not being able to bully him like others. Shaq would've ragdolled jokic let's be honest.

[@mentalmindedbasketball7613]

@rahim9nine Point taken my brother! 💯💯 but because of Jokic IQ and footwork, it’ll be a lot more challenging for Hakeem