Who is the Dalek Time Strategist?

[@IShatTheBed]

Got to say I’m loving the longer more in depth videos about the more obscure Daleks that the general public aren’t aware of

[@joeyjojojuniorshabadoo6990]

The Time Strategist’s voice is hands down the coolest Dalek voice in the whole franchise. It’s cold and calculated, never raising its voice or being gung-ho like the regular Daleks. It’s a Dalek that knows exactly what it’s doing 100% of the time

[@orion9630]

My personal favorite is still the Dalek Emperor’s voice, but I still 100% agree!

[@ejclowes9532]

We definitely need character options figures of the time controller and strategist.

[@britanimations2002]

What I'd like to see perhaps when the 9th Doctor Boxsets start wrapping up, is the return of the Time Strategist to face up against the Doctor on his own, that is the only way I think you will ever be able to give 9 another Dalek story given how powerful and forward thinking the Strategist was. I wouldn't be surprised if he came to the same conclusion as the Cult of Skaro and fled the time war once he realised just how unwinnable it was.

[@dalekbumps]

There is one way to bring back the Time Strategist in the Ninth Doctor audios without revealing to the Doctor that more Daleks had survived pre-'Dalek'. A future Time War story could depict events in which the Time Strategist follows in his predecessor's footsteps and metamorphoses into something that isn't a Dalek, such as a psychic entity or something more powerful. It would be crucial that the Doctor himself not be present in that story, as this entity that the Time Strategist changed into could appear in a Ninth Doctor audio and do battle with the Doctor once again without him knowing it was once a Dalek

[@forcedalek]

One of, if not, my FAVOURITE Dalek!

[@phinnyouchoobs]

the Time Strategist feels truer to the fascistic nature of the Daleks than the Controller, in many ways, because of how it never diverts or rebels from the Dalek Empire entirely and because it stays around, it shows the insecure and often treacherous inner workings of the Empire itself. the disputes it has with the Red Fleet Commander, and repurposing the plans it had as entirely the Strategist's own, imitates how much infighting there was in actual fascist governments in history so some members of it could elevate themselves on the hierarchy. the Time Strategist has slightly more of an allegorical edge over the Controller, who veers moreso on being an anarchical character itself

[@robotx9285]

Bruh it's literally pulling Davros and Nyder style manipulation. There was a time where Davros betrayed a scientist who originally purposed the concept of Daleks, sending her off to be hanged.

[@phinnyouchoobs]

exactly! that's with Shan in the audio drama Davros, and the idea of fascist insecurity and governmental fallibility is prevalent in a ton of Dalek stories even just on TV. the civil war of the classic series focuses on the genetic purity angle, but it uses that as a lens to show how easily the Daleks' empire could crumble apart. similar things also happen in stories like the Daleks in Manhattan two-parter, and there are semblances of the idea being made more literal in Journey's End because the Daleks are ultimately defeated by machinery in the deepest recesses of their headquarters (where funnily enough, Davros, the creator of the Daleks and their governmental ideologies is) and as soon as it is triggered, the three heads of the fleet shown in that episode turn on one another, only prevented from backstabbing each other because of the Children of Time being there

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

honestly the events of "he who fights with monsters" and "enemy mine" really go to show some of that nature even more.

[@azarothshadowsoul]

This was way more in depth than I bargained for, and I love it

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

i love this video so much but i do want to dispute one thing at least: the time strategist wasnt outgambited by the sontarans. the events of "the eternity cage" had to play out in that manner because it allowed his time lord agent Helenya to hijack a battle tardis in the following story and use its link with the Eye of Harmony to detonate the "core" Eye on gallifrey

[@redjirachi1]

Given how the Cult of Skaro found a way to escape the Time War, I could see the Time Strategist realizing nobody is going to win the war and found a way out

[@lewischerry3552]

Shiiiit I’ve been waiting for this one! Love his sassy dialogue with the Sontarans

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

"your species lacks the required...........intellectual and physical capacity for time battles/ it is not an insult......it is biology"

[@lewischerry3552]

@@ShinyaMerveilles66 when the so sontaran gets asked how they captured the time strategist and he says “with guile and no small expenditure of effort” is a line I love so much that it is now my default response when anyone asks me how I did anything

[@davidrenwickjunior]

Another well made video, I’ve not managed to get through the big finish audios yet but these videos certainly help build up the big picture of each character and their involvement in the timeline. You can see why the Timelords liked to limit the time travel of other beings and protect the web of time, because the fracturing of the timelines and crossovers with other timelines starts to become a huge convoluted mess where nobody knows what’s happening and where and when with events happening then unhappening as they’re undone because they don’t work out as intended. Life is simpler when you have one universe with what is, rather than a multiverse of meanwhiles and never were’s crossing over causing chaos. It makes the time controller and strategist very dangerous characters and you can see how it makes the time war so devastating not only to Daleks and Timelords but to the lesser species who watch the universes burn in their madness. Well made ❤❤

[@dalekbumps]

Thanks! I'd definitely recommend the Big Finish audios, lots of the early ones are quite cheap nowadays and they sometimes go on sale, so it's easy to pick up half a dozen or so and listen through them to see if you enjoy them. Spare Parts is a great first audio to try, it's a Fifth Doctor and Nyssa story about the origin of the Cybermen on Mondas (post-Adric's death) In terms of the Daleks, there's a lot of Sixth and Eighth Doctor audios with great Dalek appearances - Jubilee, the Juggernauts, Patient Zero, Blood of the Daleks, etc. The Eighth Doctor also has three entire series on audio - his early stuff with Charley, the Eighth Doctor Adventures which also includes Dark Eyes, Doom Coalition, Ravenous and Stranded, and then also his Time War stuff leading up to the Time War. There's some fantastic audios in that series

[@davidrenwickjunior]

@@dalekbumps I have a couple on CD I started collecting early on but didn’t keep it up for various reasons, I’d like to collect them all though now my DVD collection is complete. I have storm warning, the sirens of time and phantasmagoria so I know they’re enjoyable.

[@AnubisX1]

For me the time strategist is the best dalek character created. He is the doctors equal in dalek form. I think it's criminal he hasn't appeared on screen or other media as he is exactly what the daleks on the TV. His casing would only require minor changes to the red supreme to make him. I also think his earlier deeper synth voice was far more creepy and unsettling compared to the daldk casn voice he got in later episodes. Should character options do another line of big finish figures I would hope the TS would get a figure. Also what story is from where he and the red dalek commander have a tiff?

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

Temnosus ( I think that’s the spelling) 2nd story of the 3rd war doctor begins series

[@reeceemms1643]

I would love to see this appear in the show

[@LavaArrow127]

Loved this and the time Controller Video, Long formatted videos are really good for characters like these. Glad I can watch these to learn about Big Finnish characters since I can’t listen to it myself.

[@mrhotdog468]

Probably the coolest looking dalek

[@paulo9991]

Awesome video! I really want to see this Dalek make its way into the show.

[@darkhumour741]

If by some miracle we’re ever lucky enough to see him in live action, the Time Strategist deserves to be the overarching villain of a Time War spinoff lead by a young War Doctor. Any smaller role just feels like you’re wasting him.

[@shadepizza4217]

The dalek time strategist is like Doctor Who's admiral thrawn. Cool in cross medium extended universe stories that are allowed to do whatever they want, but would probably fall short when introduced to the main series. I don't see it working on screen simply because I don't think they would be able to do justice to the concept of time omnipresence in a 50-100 minute tv program where the good guys have to win in the end

[@dalekbumps]

I would love to see a chess match between the Time Strategist and Grand Admiral Thrawn

[@Мясникхохолов]

These longer and deeper videos are absolutely awesome

[@swiftbird4846]

I learn a great deal every time you upload, fantastic.

[@samueljordan3177]

I really want to see the Dalek Time Strategist in live action Doctor Who, even as part of a spin-off. It'd be a unique villain and I'm sure it'd look impressive in action.

[@ZOMBiFOX13]

The dalek time strategist is the goat 🔥

[@thelegolord566]

I love this dalek! I would try to make a lego one but the purple is hard to get

[@slateoffate9812]

Fan theory: While the War Doctor's Timeline is fairly linear, from War Doctor Begins to War Doctor Quadrilogy, the Time Strategist's timeline is much more screwy, in-universe at least. In reality, the Time Strategist's Timeline is parallel to its story release dates. The latest boxset of the War Doctor Begins, from the Time Strategist's perspective, is long after the War Doctor Quadrilogy. A fitting end to such a powerful character in the Dalek Empire.

[@timecontroller8800]

I love the time strategist mainly because like the time controller he is extremely interesting and I love his unique very deep voice (when big finish remembers that it’s deep). I think the main difference is between them in terms of character is that the time strategist was genetically Loyal to the supreme dalek who probably became the emperor yet he gains ideas of becoming the emperor in that war doctor box set which I gave me the theory that because the time strategist/controller are linked to the time vortex it allowed them to expand there mind and gave them free will. I also think that in those final days of the time war the time strategist realised that the war was unwinable and the only out come was likely destruction as the war became hell and realised the only way to win was to escape as the emperor would not be persuaded to give up and if he suggested the idea he would be destroyed so I think he escaped using something like a void ship and could always return one day

[@minicle426]

He, whose voice is never consistant. :P

[@akshaytrayner1960]

My fave dalek

[@billyberry-rf5yu]

I hope to see this Dalek in a Doctor Who episode

[@nickthepick8043]

I'm gonna do my best to 3D Print my own Dalek Time Strategist. I already made a Time Controller, but I really love the design of the casing of the Strategist. I wouldn't be surprised if he too survived the Time War, since it wouldn't take away from the Cult of Skaro's foresight. They knew what was going down, so they hid from the universe until the fighting ceased. It wouldn't stretch the imagination to think that the Strategist could do the same.

[@milady2681]

Imagine if in the episodes of season 14, the 15th Doctor discovers that daleks have located an old super-weapon that allowed them to wipe out entire planets…but upon arriving there, hyping himself up for a fight…finds nothing but a barren planet, yet now that he’s there the tardis refuses to leave, every time he tries to he simply returns…and at some point meets with the time-strategist I’m no proffesional writer so there are hundreds of different and better ways this could be done but I would love to see the time-strategist on screen

[@cameronpearce5943]

They should bring them back as a reoccurring villain. And in my personal opinion rocking a cross between his Big Finish, Nee Paradigm, and silver/blue version of the Brass Dalek would be an amazing design, like an evil inverted Tardis

[@akshaytrayner1960]

Great vid

[@dalekbumps]

Thanks!

[@Solidsnakeprime501]

So one really interesting piece of information not in this video, I'm guessing coz you haven't heard the final war doctor begins yet but *spoiler warning* the strategist becoming more rebellious leads to the emperor punishing him by slaving itself to the time strategist, restricting the strategists free will and therefore watching over everything it did. I like to think this explains its change in voice. It starts off deep, gets higher as it becomes more rebellious in the war doctor begins era, then once the emperor takes control of it it becomes low and perhaps more subdued sounding as in the original war doctor boxsets.

[@mh6944]

Have you listened to the most recent War Doctor Begins set? While it doesn't make clear the Time Strategist's final fate, it does explain why the Time Strategist's plans in the (Chronologically later) John Hurt boxsets are more conventionally Dalek as opposed to his more outside-the-box methods in his earlier (in his timeline) appearances.

[@HiveFleetOni]

A single Dalek effectively waged war across time and space against an entire race of time travelling immortals. Leaving its fate unknown, a legendary figure from the Time War, is an acceptable fate… outside of a faithful TV appearance!

[@АртемПістунов]

I personally think it's cool looking.

[@zaarthwren]

Speaking of the Dalek Time Strategist, what was the paint you suggested again I’m getting ready to make my Running Press Minikits Red Dalek Supreme into the Dalek Time Strategist also what would you recommend for creating the rings on a roughly 3.75” (3 3/4 Scale) plastic Dalek Model. I tried to ask you a couple of other times but your channel is growing and there are so many comments I don’t think you saw it, please let me know what kind of paint if you see this.

[@rohanthomas4134]

Here’s a question, seeing that the time controller comes from an era after the time strategist, would it be reasonable to infer that the time controller was intentionally emulating the time strategist, without necessarily knowing that it would create its own source of inspiration?

[@dalekbumps]

I've been thinking about this actually, I want to make a full video on it eventually - it is possible that the Time Controller and the Time Strategist form a sort of 'Ouroboros' situation where one creates the other, who then creates the other, who then creates the other in a paradox of sorts. The Time Controller is created by the New Dalek Paradigm in the far future based off the Time Strategist, the Time Controller then goes back in time and creates the Dalek who will go on to become the Time Strategist, who is then lost in the Time War and the records of its exact origin are lost to the Paradigm, who go on to create the Time Controller...

[@rohanthomas4134]

@@dalekbumps I would be very surprised if that wasn’t considered the explicit intent at this point. I suppose if they really wanted to close the loop, they could have the litigator appear in some form among the resurrected and redesigned Dalek paradigm in the new 11th doctor audio.

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

@@dalekbumps if it was then in a way i love how out of sync it would be, since the time controller casing is based on classic series who, but built by the new paradigm, while the time strategist casing was build to time war standard, albeit was in operation before the time war proper had begun

[@59rlmccormack]

Fun learning about Daleks who prove to be bigger threats.

[@Squiddy06]

Do hope this dalek returns somehow someday

[@Dalek-Galvo]

I really hope the Time Strategist is brought back in New Who.

[@unlimitedgamerworks6125]

Can you buy physical big finish audios? As the ones surrounding the Eight Doctor really seem to scratch the itch for Dalek content I want.

[@Prince__Teclis]

You can get some as cds, but they're limited stock usually.

[@unlimitedgamerworks6125]

@@Prince__Teclis ah damn

[@unlimitedgamerworks6125]

Maybe eBay might have a few

[@MrHighlifewest]

Loving these longer form videos. Honestly listening to this video makes me really want to see A a dalek spin off series during the time war B More variations of daleks shown in there future appearances and C a triple A doctor who video game set during the time war or could be a alternate reality where its a different large scale war and you play as a alternate doctor.

[@dalek3055]

Its interesting that the Strategist was responsible for removing some if not many temporal weapons from the war, if it wasnt for the strategist, the Time Lords could have won quickly, but forcing them to fight more traditionally plas right into thr dalek's superiority in standard warfare

[@alunjones6823]

It'd be cool to see the Time Stratagist in the TV series.

[@lethaldarkness115]

The Time Strategist (Supreme) as I call him, I believe is very much alive and well, probably waiting, maybe in another universe.

[@RealMagmaDash]

love the time strategist, but im torn on wanting it to make an appearance in the show, since the writing for the new series doesn’t look like it will be any better than chibnall.

[@nikolasimoni5018]

The true final villain of doctor who he should return

[@TheOvervoid]

It would be cool if he came back

[@kiltedjohn1000]

Yes this would be popular if it was in the TV series so obviously the time strategist wont be in it

[@zombiedalekweck2243]

Delicious...

[@grahamturner1290]

🐙

[@Mike1064ab]

If they had this access and control of time how come they didn’t win? 🤣

[@dalekbumps]

They basically did, the Daleks had dissolved the Time Lord hegemony and had completely surrounded Gallifrey during the Last Day of the war. The only reason why they didn't win was because the War Doctor used the Moment to remove both sides from the conflict