Who is the Red Soul? - Deltarune Theory

[@TheSoph_]

Drinking game! Drink everytime I say, “so yeah” or “that’s the theory in a nutshell”. Warning: you will die!

[@GasterExplains]

Can't be any worse than the Johnny Test whipcrack game

[@Ajdin_1103]

I did it and I only threw up

[@CodySky]

Mr stark… I don’t feel so good

[@user-GuyWhoLikesGames_he_him]

Side note but what are your pronouns?

[@TheDimensionalArtist]

Say that to Silverqill. Bud will drink all the wine in the world

[@literallymalware]

I feel like the ending of Chapter 1 outright confirms that the Soul is the player, and it's that simple. In case you didn't know, the soul will move one pixel at a time in the birdcage if you move the arrow keys, while Kris moves on their own. My interpretation is that the soul is just the player

[@MatheoZ14]

0:22 Ah yes, all three games. Undertale, Deltarune and Nutdealer

[@PhantomGato-v-]

Nudealert: the forbidden 4th game

[@MatheoZ14]

@@PhantomGato-v- Dunetaler Dunelater Laterdune Laternude Nudetaler Nudelater Nudealert Alertnude Lunetrade Talernude Nutleader

[@caguay]

Everyone forgets about Antdueler

[@jackwilliams8399]

Can’t forget eldertuna

[@Sparkling34]

​@@caguay ugh I hated Antdueler the franchise really went downhill after Daletuner

[@MrAppleSalad]

One of Kris' descriptions in the Dark World is "a body containing a human soul", so that pretty clearly debunks the Dess theory

[@Brorca]

Random detail: Chara has brown eyes, whereas Frisk's eye color is ambiguous, and Kris' is red

[@MrAppleSalad]

We see Frisk's eyes at the end of the True Pacifist, they're red just like Kris. We know that it has nothing to do with possession, seeing as Kris has red eyes both when we're in control and when we're not. Another fun fact, Kris has literally the exact same hair and skin tone as Frisk, and going by Monster Kid's age its pretty clear to me that if Frisk exists in the Deltarune world they'd be around Kris' age as well. I'm 99% sure Kris is Frisk lol, there's very little reason to doubt that.

[@Normania-is-here]

@@MrAppleSaladKris is frisk in chara’s clothes 😞

[@MrAppleSalad]

@Normania-is-here More or less, yeah XD

[@lulnara5128]

​@@Normania-is-here Eventually, If Frisk stayed at Toriel's, they would have to use Chara's old clothes, since they didn't bring any with them (assuming Toriel took the clothes to the Ruins)

[@misfitanimations2787]

@@MrAppleSalad what you said in one comment I said in a whole video!😂

[@sir-dame-sander]

“a fictional character interacting with the real world is too far fetched” has always been such a wild point to me. is that not what flowey and/or chara did? both speak directly to the player and take advantage of the save system, whether it be by themselves or with our help. just because they never explicitly state that they’re in a video game doesn’t mean they aren’t aware of *some* sort of “real world” occupied by beings they know can manipulate their own

[@TheSkyGuy77]

Its like everyone just forgot that Undertale fully shattered the 4th wall. Honestly.

[@burningfiregames6015]

IMO there's a difference between a fictional character knowing and reacting to the real world, and actually interacting with some aspect of the real world. A fictional character can NOT take your soul and put it into a game, that doesn't make any sense and would completely take out immersion. That's why I generally prefer to believe that the soul is what connects the player to the world, but is not *literally* the player's soul

[@Deflamed_Sphere]

@@burningfiregames6015yeah otherwise that is just creepypasta

[@thesaroscycle_archive]

Neither Flowey nor Chara talks to the player. Chara talks to Frisk, and Flowey talks to either Frisk or Chara. The reason they can’t be aware of the “real” world is because, to them, the game world IS the real world. There is no “real” world to speak of. To do otherwise would violate the magic circle.

[@angelnati8297]

​@@thesaroscycle_archivethere is no in universe reason for Frisk to do the no mercy route without the existance of the player. Who is Chara talking to after they strike Frisk and destroy the game. Flowey can not be talking to Chara at the end of True Pacifist simply because Chara cannot be the one that controls the resets since they even say "My Determination, they were not mine but yours" or something along those lines. The Player is also an entity in the Mother series, so it's not like it's a wild idea for the player to be diagetic. Characters don't perceive the Player and use proxys to talk to them (except arguably Chara when you have to wait like 10 minutes to give them your soul)

[@amia.tea88]

21:21 to clear a misunderstanding, UT *does* avoid using Kanji, and Chara using Kanji is something only *they* do in UT. However in DR; while characters in the Light World use a writing style similar to UT characters, they do use quite a lot of Kanji in the Dark World. So in DR, the second voice (the one who cuts off the character creation) isn't unique in using Kanji. [Plus, second voice's way of speaking is *slightly* different than Chara. While Chara calls the player by お前(omae) using Kanji, second voice writes the same word as おまえ(omae) only using Hiragana.]

[@eloise2319]

Deltarune is one of the many reasons why I wanna start learning Japanese lol I'm in too deep into the theory rabbit hole!

[@keaton5101]

19:29 gonna be real, none of this indicates that kris has been acting abnormal for longer than the 2 days the game has taken place for. kris "doing this sometimes" means they take a while in the bathroom, which is normal for teens especially. alphys saying "just lately?" actually implies that kris acts in a concerning way a lot, which makes sense given what we know about them, as sort of an outcast who occasionally plays mean jokes. and i really dont see why the word "recently" implies more than 2 days.

[@rin_reverie]

Tbh I’m betting on it being a combo of 1 and 5-the Soul was originally Kris’s, but whatever they did to ‘make a connection’ allowed presumably-Gaster to make it ‘ours’ in the same way the Soul is in Undertale

[@oppositevoice]

"where did it come from?" idk "where did it go?" where are you going with this? "where did it come from?" you asked this already "cotton eye joe" *realization"

[@sir-dame-sander]

re: the demon thing. there is a type of code called a “daemon” which runs constantly in the background of most programs in case it’s pinged to do a service check. I think “the narrator” or whoever’s possessing kris likely plays a similar role, existing in the back of their head but occasionally throwing their soul out of their body so that they can course-correct kris back into whatever’s been planned for them. kris is probably into the actual occult and summoning real demons (whether or not they exist is another question), but I think whatever “demon” is possessing them is much more metaphorical and more closely tied to “daemon” as a tech concept than “demon” as a religious idea

[@AlphaPizzadog]

The daemon that comes when you call its name. Chara.mdx

[@999clovers]

I've been just waiting for someone to put out the theory that Kris summoned Gaster in a demon summoning ritual!! I personally think the motivation for them summoning Gaster is to have Power/LV-- Not for nefarious reasons, but to get Dess back from the dark. They've been shown to have trauma surrounding the Bunker, which I believe that many people theorize is how Dess went missing. This could also tie into how Asgore was forced to retire from the police force(I've heard a theory that it was for his failure to find Dess)-- maybe Kris thinks that by absolving Asgore of that responsibility by getting Dess back, they could get their family back together. Whew, that was long winded, but I hope it provides theory fuel for anyone out there!

[@pedroba76]

good theory.

[@renownerd.276]

Something I like to point out to people is that it never is directly said that gaster fell into the core. It says he made the core and that he fell into his creation. And based on entry seventeen and the survey program it sounds like Gaster created deltarune. OR the device necessary to enter deltarune's world. And so I think he fell into that instead of the core. And since he was shattered through time and space, perhaps he was the royal scientist while Chara was alive? The G Followers also say that Asgore took a long time to replace Gaster. And Alphys found those old videotapes of Chara and Asriel, meaning the lab likely had them inside. That means that Chara could very well be one of the people he was talking to at the end of entry seventeen. "What do you two think?"

[@rafsandomierz5313]

Not really, CORE should not be able to block signal of cell phones since it is using a *physical things to create energy* those types of power plants exist irl and these do not block any phone signals. Second CORE uses totems of Darkness (The poles with shining red orbs at the top inside the CORE that are almost everywhere) which are named like this in the files. Third CORE is way more complex than average geological power plants, it can change layouts like a Rubic's cube and Alphys doesn't know all capabilities of CORE. There are workers that maintained CORE way before Alphys took position of Royal Scientist.

[@renownerd.276]

Yeah but if so many scientists knew all about the true lab, it wouldn't have been able to be kept a secret for so long. Additionally the ice wolf was helping to maintain the core, but he wasn't a scientist. Just a worker. Normal technicians can help maintain systems without needing to know how they work or being given access to a real lab.@@rafsandomierz5313

[@arkaring]

The entry mentioning the tapes explicitly mentions she found them on asgore's castle while searching for info on the human souls, if Gaster coexisted with Chara or not, is anyone's guess, but the tapes weren't on his lab, lol

[@arkaring]

​@@rafsandomierz5313the totems of darkness which are located in dark parts of the rooms, ye Any connection to Deltarune's brand of darkness/entry 17 one is speculative

[@renownerd.276]

@arkaring True! That's a good point. Since I wrote this though, a very interesting and (personality for me) compelling video theory came out explaining that it's possible Gaster wrote half of those entries: including the one where the tapes were found. (Undertale theory: writing on the wall by sock muppet if you want to watch. It's pretty long. Tldr: some capitalize some don't, alphys doesn't while texting, alphys didn't know about the queen, the capitalized entries know about the queen leaving and knew the first flower that bloomed before all the others)

[@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.]

I'd just like to point out that, while "would Toby, who is a good writer, write a theory as dumb is this fanfic?" is the most solid litmus test for any theorycrafting, we know Toby himself to be an unreliable narrator. The steam page for Deltarune alone has changed multiple time. So Toby saying "nah" doesn't throw the Chara theory away - but every variant of it being some "My Immortal" tier fanfic does.

[@Dtorre777]

you say multiple times that toby said "UT isn't connected to DR" but in the FAQ he says they might be connected...

[@G-DORA]

It's undeniable at this point. Reused characters, motifs in music, Deltarune teases in UT ports, and updates to Sans basement. Yeah, plus the FAQ and Toby Fox' reluctance to officially deconfirm UT connections.

[@oofley8346]

My crackpot secondary theory, behind us just possessing them at the beginning and that's it, is that kris got possessed in a ritual they conducted before we came along and the demon made them manhandle their soul enough to destroy it, leading to some concerned third party sending us to prevent them from dying

[@AwesomeDr111]

[Not] Gaster can't physically take control of our real world souls and put them in the game for us to control (unless we pretend he can). Which is why I believe the soul was simply created by [Not] Gaster to serve as a link between us and the game, to embody and represent our presence. Why I think he made the soul red is to invoke a sense of familiarity to undertale, since [Not] Gaster wants people to play his game, and he probably knows said people are likely to have played undertale prior.

[@Slyze]

Just a little side note, while I don't know how much I believe some of the theories listed here it seemed your main reasoning for dismissing some of them was the fact that Toby Fox himself stated that Deltarune is a different world separate from Undertale, and that it's not a sequel or prequel in the traditional sense- as he puts it "It's just a game you can play after you complete UNDERTALE, if you want to." Which you seem to have taken as evidence there are are no connections between the two games or their worlds whatsoever. However, something I think you're not taking into account is the VERY NEXT question in that FAQ page you were showing to cite the quotes from Toby, which states: Q: So there's no connections between the two games? A: It's a different world that might even have different rules. That doesn't mean there will be no connections at all though. Which in other words is Toby Fox straight up saying that despite being different worlds, there are connections- or at the very least some things that connect the two worlds in some way. So with that in mind I don't think that dismissing some of the theories listed in this video with the reasoning that there are no connections between Undertale and Deltarune is very fair or accurate.

[@UnoriginalJokester]

I am a firm believer of the red soul being Kris' own soul. Not because of any one piece of evidence, but due to logical deductions based on what we know about souls in general. If the red soul was anything BUT Kris' soul, that leaves us with three options: Either Kris has two human souls, Kris lost their soul, or Kris was born soulless. All three are flawed. Alphys says in her true lab entries that humans cannot absorb human souls. Kris' first Dark World description says "Body contains a human SOUL." This implies the red soul IS a human soul, as it would be weird for that to be referring to anything but the soul we control. Since we see Kris absorb the red soul, that implies they have no human soul of their own. I guess it's technically possible for that rule not to apply, since these are different universes, but it's still worth noting. But we don't need Undertale to disprove this, as Kris literally dies if the soul shatters. That doesn't make sense if Kris has a soul of their own & would be left as a perfectly normal human once our soul is gone. So for now, it's most logical to assume Kris has one soul. Kris also can't have lost their soul, as souls are described as "the culmination of your being." Everything that contains who you are as a person is in your soul. This is further supported by the fact that when Asriel absorbed Chara's soul, they became conscious in his body. There's also the six human souls that actively help you & rebel against Flowey. So then, if Kris lost their soul, they shouldn't be able to do things on their own without our input. The fact that they do implies their soul is inside their body, but it can't be if our soul isn't Kris' soul. The only scenario that's technically possible is if Kris was born soulless, and our soul being present in their body granted them the ability to feel compassion & stuff. This seems highly unlikely though, as Kris' first Dark World description labels them as "Human," which, means they're a human (obviously). Humans have souls. They also don't really share much in common with the two soulless beings we've met in the series so far. Yeah, Kris is a loner & a bit creepy, but that could easily be attributed to them being an edgy teenager. I doubt they lacked the ability to feel compassion before we came along. So, while technically possible, Kris being born soulless just doesn't line up. The only possibility at this point is that the red soul IS Kris' soul, and we're simply controlling it directly. It's entirely possible that the red soul we control during the Goner Maker is also Kris' soul being summoned there for us to inhabit. Perhaps the red soul we control during the Goner Maker is different from the soul inside Kris; some sort of representation of the player, rather than literally being the player. That does make sense in the context of that same Goner Maker soul showing up during game over screens AFTER the soul inside Kris has already shattered.

[@matonphare]

This theory also explains why Kris is struggling to walk after removing the soul, and is confirmed by Ralsei when he says « See that’s heart, Kris? That’s your soul » Instead of being another soul, this is just Kris’s soul and we’re controlling it (or we are playing a character that is controlling Kris’s soul, that’s also possible)

[@Habbitual]

I feel like it's worth noting that Deltarune and Undertale do sort of toss around different ideas. I'm not going to start the "is there magic in the lightworld" debate, but the game is at least making some attempt to confuse players in this regard. it's perfectly possible that the "the culmination of your being." could just not be true in deltarune- we're not even sure if there's a difference between lightner souls(in the sense of humans and monsters, both are supposedly able to use determination to make dark fountains). It's unclear. As to the other reply here- Ralsei isn't really a trust worthy source on what's true or not sometimes. Even if he's not knowledgeable about the player, he'd probably just assume that the soul in Kris is in fact Kris's soul. I do think there is a possibility that Kris's soul is being there, but I suppose it's same for most theories- we simply don't have enough knowledge to make a decisive conclusion. You use a lot of evidence from Undertale, but there's not much to indicate that Undertale's 'natural laws' are the same for Deltarune(Aside from maybe entry 17? Unclear, Gaster's stuff isn't ever really clear).

[@UnoriginalJokester]

@@Habbitual Both Ralsei & a book in the library describe souls with similar terms, with Ralsei even saying the exact "culmination of your being" line. We have absolutely no reason to believe he's lying here, and it wouldn't really make sense for him to do so, since he wouldn't really have anything to gain by lying about that. Flowey was also untrustworthy a lot of the time, but it's safe to say he was right about the soul when describing it, so there's no reason to believe Ralsei would be any different.

[@Kayther33]

Im agree with ya, but who born souless? Flowey and who else?

[@UnoriginalJokester]

@@Kayther33 Demon Chara, but that's more of a supernatural force.

[@TheAlmightyLeroy]

You mean you weren't... Souled

[@amber2778]

Not a big fan of the calling Chara a "evil demon" but at least it is ignorable! Besides that a fun/good theory video!

[@MaxwelltheXVII]

The thing that sells me most on the first theory, is that at the end of chapter 1 when the red soul is in the bird cage it can move! If you press the arrow keys you can see it slightly moving!

[@TheAntiGravityMaster]

I'm sure a thousand people have already commented about this, but Monika does very notably have a Twitter page. That doesn't detract from your argument really but I figured I'd point it out.

[@tobysinbad]

I love to consume semi-regular Deltarune content

[@JezElectro13]

I can't tell if the fact you use the "Chara is demonic child obsessed with knives and we didn't corrupt them by Genocide Route, which was OUR choice only" misinterpretation while being like "Gaster totally not narrator and the one who took over Undertale/Deltarune twitter" is just you actually believing this misinterpretation or intentional irony.

[@murkysaltwater3646]

The second bit was irony and you actually have it backwards - they’re saying that Gaster IS the mysterious narrator and is just using irony as humor, however the Chara thing I think they genuinely believe

[@nicholas851]

Some Undertale and Deltarune fans really absolutely cannot accept that they're responsible for the consequences of their actions, huh. "Chara genocide possession", "Kris acts like Chara because they did Snowgrave" - it's a hilarious level of blame shifting. Chara only starts influencing us later in Genocide, while Kris clearly has many ways to back out of Snowgrave and Noelle makes multiple indications that Kris is acting off or sounding different.

[@Tulip_bip]

yea, this whole setup with the soul and kris is literally designed to explicitly tell you that you are in control of them lmfao. kris is a pre-established character with a personality and a life, and you are the player, entering this world that you don't belong in and puppeting kris into a reflection of yourself. people are right in thinking that the weird route is some malevolent force possessing kris and making them do horrible things, that malevolent force is YOU

[@alexkuntmm7201]

I believe that the soul belongs to Kris and we just took control of it when the experiment (aka the game) began.

[@Lynnieee246]

i believe this too, i dont get how people over complicated it with the gaster and chara connections 😭

[@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard]

occam's razor to the rescue but also? over complicating things and reaidng into things more than the author did is fun

[@orangeonion5259]

I'd just correct that Flowey talks to Chara after the pacifist ending, because at the end of the speech he says "see you later... Chara" which is a big reveal that hints at the possibility that Chara is the one that has the power to reset (the highlighted yellow choices in Deltarune are also only present in the last choice in the Genocide ending in Undertale). Chara is the only one potentially talking to the player at the end of the genocide route, Flowey never mentions the player otherwise, he always talks to either Frisk or Chara

[@YouMayKnowMeAsNate]

12:28 Edit: as a reply reminded me, an official book mentions that it’s the player’s determination that allows frisk to save and load. (Original: Flowey isn’t necessarily talking to the player. He can just be talking to Chara. There’s many things in Undertale that *can* be interpreted as breaking the fourth wall and talking to/about the player, but none of them are necessary. They can also be read within the context of the game and work perfectly fine) 23:30 it’s specifically pointed out that frisk started the geno route. Each step along that path awoke Chara more, but Chara did not overtake Frisk’s will and force all of it to happen. Remember, Chara says “it was you who led the world to its destruction”

[@RotroBreakteve]

Personally I'm not convinced that Frisk had a hand in awakening the fallen human. Chara calls themself a "demon that comes when you call its name", which refers back to the name select screen at the start of the game. This was done by the player and not by Frisk. I think this ,plus the knowledge we have about free will of the playable character from Deltarune, pretty firmly puts the player (or if we don't want to break the fourth wall, the "red soul") in charge of Frisk's actions.

[@WerWer-gz5kk]

The Undertale Lost in Translation book confirms Frisk does not have enough determination to save and load. Its the player that does.

[@WhiteCresentKnight]

The point of the Frisk’s real name twist, is that the name you’ve been using isn’t Frisks real name. The Players actions aren’t Frisk’s actions. It’s also why Frisk as their own gender and isn’t just a player insert. The player and Frisk are separate.

[@mechamedegeorge6786]

​@@WhiteCresentKnightThats not true, as the endgame mirror says "Still just you Frisk." Such dialogue makes no sense if it WASNT Frisk the whole journey. As it is clearly congratulating FRISK for their accomplishments in pacifists, by saying it was always them all along...

[@mechamedegeorge6786]

​@@WerWer-gz5kkDidnt the writer then make a Tweet saying that their conclusions werent canon?

[@Autumn_Actually]

Love the video! I agree that the soul is likely the player's, since Undertale and Deltarune are very meta. Sidenote: it's not exactly right to say Chara posesses Frisk and commits murder. Chara describes themselves as a humble servant to the player. Chara only kills Flowey at the very end, everything else is all the player. The point of the game is that WE decided to hurt people, not some demonic spirit. WE summoned THEM, not the other way around. It's the player's fault.

[@Flynnisthename]

Gaster messed with Kris’ soul and put us inside it. Still theirs

[@bookworm_of_heaven]

25:06 yt deleted my og comment so heres the gist: the soul we see is a human soul, it says so in the dark world menu. since theres absolutely *no* reason to believe that dess is a human, this disproves that theory, at least for now. personally, i think that the soul is ours only in the sense that we control it, and i am partial to it either being originally kris' (easy choice) or a device created by gaster somehow (molly stars theory choice).

[@aylin6766]

"...your utmost servant" "since when where you the one in control". Gave me the idea that the device is an intermediary, knowing what a player can influence (multiple choice boxes, combat choices, what to interact with) giving you the opportunity to interact with the world as best as it can. Kris is also there and is able to influence the output as a "player character". The device makes our choices possible, making us responsible for acting intrusively towards Kris in some ways or going down certain predetermined paths. This theory upholds the interesting conflict between us and Kris.

[@wilsonstrax5899]

I really enjoy how thorough you are in your analysis of potential theory possibilities, and that you avoid writing fanfiction in your theories. You are very logical; you've earned a subscribe!

[@shelbybayer200]

The Player theory is the most likely one I think the Soul is actually a Core of Influence Every time Kris rips it out, We can Control the Soul when it is in the Cage

[@marsgreekgod]

I feel like making genocide the cannon leading to deltarune sends very much the wrong messege.

[@fruitloops2058]

Toby said that what ever state Undertale is in will be how it stays so unless he does some "every person who did the Geno run caused this and it effects other games" then yeah

[@GospodinWolf]

I don't think that the question of this video has any relevance to what is actually going on in Undertale/Deltarune. The actual question is : What twist is Toby making ? I had this "Meta" theory going around in my head for months that connects every detail from the puzzle Toby's created : game's data, game's lore, game's characters and the real world websites + "unofficial tarot card". It all revolves on Gaster, unsurprisingly. But the fact is : we know almost nothing on what Gaster did while being an actual character in Undertale. We only know he built the Core and that True Lab's DT extractor is his creation, too. But can we figure out other things about him, aside from what info we've been given ? *YES.* Let's start with determining when and how Gaster disappeared in the timeline, and i have a damn good explanation for it. Number 6 is heavily associated with our skeleton goner, his stats in the code are made of sixes, the FUN value needed to have a chance of finding "Mystery Man"'s room, the Deltarune's bunker noise which is Gaster's noise that's slown down by exactly 666%. That number is also associated with the number of human souls in ASGORE's posession, which gave me an idea that Gaster's "vanishing" is heavily implied to be the time period after Asgore had collected 6 human souls, hence why Flowey in Undertale doesn't talk about other humans, and also means that Sans and Papyrus has arrived from their home world (other universe) to the Underground at roughly the same time Gaster has disappeared (Papyrus haven't seen any humans at all). That means that Gaster had enough Determination extracted from humans, to literally become a Meta character, who can interact with not only the world of Undertale, but the real world also, the twitter messages, and Deltarune website logs that contained 2 messages in Wingdings, one being quote from Entry Number 17, and the other being a description of a story : 1) "THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY, VERY INTERESTING." 2) "THREE HEROES ABANDONED ANGEL'S HEAVEN" And the "unofficial tarot card" of Gaster, which shows him walking through a grey door, and, as a reflection, DT Extractor, which is a "confirmation" that the grey door is caused by the Extractor, which means that Gaster has used Determination on himself. His fate reminds me of MCU's Spider-Man in No Way Home, where everyone forget the real identity of Spider-Man. Here is a simialr effect. That's also why the game crashes when you try to enter his name. So, we have the timeline and cause of vanishing, time to talk about the elephant in the room : Chara. As we know, Gaster existed as a character in time when Chara had fallen, died and tried to destroy humanity, using Asriel as their weapon, which led me to another biggest discovery : Chara's soul being present in True Lab. After you find all the keys and put them into slots, and go activate the elevator, in the final room where Alphys gives her confession to Frisk, the machine that we used to activate the elevator has a small slot right above the keyboard (or the control system), which has a RED soul inside it. Chara's soul. Not only it confirms the "Soulless Chara" theory, it also confirms that Gaster was the culprit behind Chara's plan, since, logically, Gaster, while being a scientist, wouldn't camp near the barrier, waiting for Chara to arrive in Asriel's body and other 6 human souls, if he wasn't involved. So, perhaps, out of guilt, he hid the soul for no one to find and he was the reason the player had to go through all this to get to the end. It means that Flowey is not the only one who couldn't have his happy ending. Gaster is also guilty of creating the Player's soul and their control on the world of Undertale, it's confirmed by Sans on genocide route that Player is an anomaly, an unnatural being of power to save and load that's connected to another world, our world, REAL world, that's why Flowey who could do the same isn't an anomaly : he's a character of Undertale, we're not. We're an Intruder. That's a convoluted way of saying that Gaster is guilty of Undertale. Time to talk about Gaster being a meta character and his involvement in Deltarune. That's where i should give another long text about everything..It's not. The big reveal isn't here yet, and i don't know much about it. The only thing i might know is that the twist is, maybe, going to happen in Chapter 6 (Gaster's number; that's also why Toby wanted to release chapters 3,4,5 before going full on chapter 6), and also that Gaster is responsible for the "experiment" in Deltarune. And another thing, Gaster mentioned 2 other people in Entry Number 17, saying : "What do you two think ?". I don't think it's any of the characters in UT/DT, but the characters that represent 2 main people in Undertale/Deltarune's creation : Toby Fox and Temmie Chang. Yep, i'm insane saying that, and maybe it's too far fetched, that's a big conspiracy theory about Toby's dream game he started developing in 2012 after all. But it's a big game, a bigger plot, even bigger secrets. I might be going somewhere. That's still just a theory. Last addition : Kris might be the consequence of Post-Genocide (Post-Pacifist) route, the demon having the body and the soul of the player in their posession, that is the reason of Kris' behaviour at the end of each chapter. Can't go anywhere without the player, but can have control at the end of chapter, when player is not in control of the chapter ending; they want to sent Deltarune "back to the abyss" to get full control over the game. So Toby would finally achieve what he couldn't in Undertale's genocide route: have the game delete itself at the end.

[@CherryFizz26]

Something I think is that the red soul is a vessel of some sort and it “harnesses” the energy of “our real world soul” and turns it into a character of its own. We are a character in the story. A part of us controls Kris because what we do with the controls of the game, the soul does. When Kris throws the Soul into the cage, we can move it around in the cage. Gaster- I mean, the narrator finds a huge discovery on how to harness real world soul energy into its own character. The narrator wants to test this, and chooses Kris for it. Then in the Tweets he lures us into playing the game, giving him the energy to fill the empty vessel. Turning it into our own player. Through the console, we control our vessel. The narrator doesn’t have enough power to take more energy to give our vessel a body, so he puts it into Kris and takes Kris’s soul. When Kris rips out our vessel aka soul, Kris regains control. But without a soul they are zombie like and moves slowly. When the narrator is done with its research at the very end of the game, he gives Kris’s soul back and is now satisfied. This is the normal route. If you complete the weird route, we take complete control of Kris, and refuse Kris’s soul back and after defeating the roaring knight, you fight ralsei and kill him. Then you open up one dark fountain after the other over and over until the world turns to dust. It’s a long theory of mine but it’s what makes the most sense.

[@saxeladude]

12:50 I think possible not probable knowing the creator's style doesn't mean they write the same story twice. Toby may use that theme again, but being the creator of both games isn't reliable evidence that the theme will return, it just opens up the possibility that it might.

[@gertabeelievurr666]

I thought it was completely obvious that the red soul is the player a.k.a us.

[@fawfulgerakobits5504]

32:25 Something that further supports this idea is the fact in Kris's room and through all town's folk we learn that Asriel is way more popular and successful than they ever could be, so maybe they wanted to be someone else as a way to no longer live in their brother's shadow?

[@Lactosecow]

when the player controls suzie, and she fights lancer, the red soul flies from kris to the battle box. toby fox has said that this is intentional. just thought this might add to the discussion

[@mechanicalfish441]

"So it almost seems like we're being lured in to play this game by Gas- i mean the Narrator" Even Soph cant refuse the fact that its Gaster lmao

[@RafroKing]

I’m fairly certain that the reason behind Kris’s love of chocolate and other chara like traits is because they are chara, just this worlds version

[@Normania-is-here]

Chara got infected by frisk’s skin condition

[@TheSkyGuy77]

The red soul is _YOU*_ ... Its pretty obvious that its you, since when Kris rips the SOUL out, you can still move it independently from Kris...

[@TheSkyGuy77]

Also, by signing the end user license agreement, you ""agree to everything that will happen from now on"". Without specifying exactly what you're agreeing to. Using the same text quirks that Gaster uses.

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

Reminds me of Persona 5.@@TheSkyGuy77

[@KatrinaInTransit]

10:31 monika can't interact with the people on *social media*, but they do outright write on the official ddlc website

[@GFCOLCQuote]

In my opinion, Kris _is_ Chara. Chara in Undertale was raised by humans, and ran away as a child to a trapped raced of monsters who they wanted to save by wiping out humanity as they were the ones who effectively were both the race they ran away from (for unknown reasons, but it must have been bad to literally want to die as a child). This is Chara in Deltarune, probably being adopted much earlier in their life. Kris is nurture and Chara is Nature. All the things we see that are "Chara" from Kris-such as knife/chocolate love and being a bit weird-would be Chara's "Nature" where as the things we think are different, such as Kris actually jumping in the way to save Suzie, is because of Toriel's and Asgore's Nurture. Chara is not evil incarnate, they were filled by hatred due to humanity. This includes, but is not limited to, the players interactions with their old soul. (At least, I assume it's their old soul, as Frisk seems like a reincarnation of Chara in a way. Tl;dr, I think "Is it Frisk's Soul" and "Is it Chara's Soul" and "Is it Kris's Soul" can be merged into one theory I'd like to call: "Is it Kris's Soul."

[@brickrick1132]

The amount of shade thrown at jaru is excellent, thanks.

[@brickrick1132]

I swear this isn’t sarcasm

[@Average_Moldovan_User]

wake up babe, new TheSoph™ video just dropped ❤

[@SilicatYT]

You make insanely good theory videos, thank you for making the wait for Deltarune easier

[@laceylopp7039]

i just recently discovered your channel and i just gotta say i love your videos, they’re so interesting but also goofy and funny, keep up the good work!

[@TheNotSoGreat1]

Honestly Player Soul would is so probable that it’d be stranger if it wasn’t true than if it was. A phrase I see no one talking about when mentioning the theory is “That is your SOUL. The very culmination of your being”. It make so much sense if the SOUL in Deltarune (and probably Undertale) isn’t our actual soul but our “SOUL” that Flowey/Ralsei mentions (as in the red SOUL is the culmination of our being inside of these worlds)

[@vgfmak]

Toby says in the Deltarune FAQ "It's a different world that might even have different rules. That doesn't mean there will be no connections at all though" in regards to Undertale and Deltarune. He's only implied that Deltarune won't retroactively change the events of Undertale or change/spoil that game's ending, but there likely will be some connections. As for the Chara soul theory, it's not necessarily my preferred theory but my understanding is that the theory is meant to explain where Chara and Asriel's combined soul goes after Asriel's death in Undertale and has nothing to do with Undertale's ending(s). We never see that soul used as one of the seven to break the barrier. Additionally, in True Lab we see a strange machine at the end with what appears to be a red heart inside of it. If connected, then this would line up with the various "device" terminology used to refer to the soul in Deltarune, as well as the hidden file select screen in chapter 1 that has a more machine-like UI. Finally, at the end of Chapter 1 (and in a few other points I think?) we see the soul flash white, which would make sense if it was fused with a monster soul.

[@GasterExplains]

"Just the narrator", HOW COULD YOU DO ME LIKE THAT? edit: you are forgiven

[@ssupermarlo]

Hi Gaster

[@GasterExplains]

@@ssupermarlo Mario why do you love me?

[@kramkrum3672]

PLEASE just call the narrator "Gaster". It couldn't be more obvious that it's him at this point, and if you're doing this to "avoid an argument in the comment section", you're only enabling the Gaster denier crowd. They're quite possibly the most ignorant aspect of the DR theorycrafting community. Most things tie back to Gaster because Gaster IS tied to most things, we just haven't met him face-to-face yet. If you're going to make Deltarune theories and not connect the dots between things like the Gaster Twitter posts, "darker yet darker"/"very very interesting", the all-caps and letter-spacing implying it's translated from wingdings, the "Goner maker" sequence tying back to the Goners/Gaster Followers from Undertale, and all the hoards of significant other details that are meant to guide the player to a "ah, yes, this IS Gaster" ephiphany, then you're hardly making a theory. You're stating uncertainty while standing on uncertainty, and without making a clear stance on your opinion on the direction of the game, I have no reason to watch 30 minutes of "lol I dunno, what if it belongs to Dess? lmao". Ironically, you also name-drop a character we also have yet to meet who had likely suffered the same fate as Gaster. Not trying to be a jerk, but I'm tired of seeing this. Eight years have passed and we're still getting Gaster breadcrumbs, clearly he's an important, active mystery with an imminent and relevant resolution inbound. The community goes so long without content that they end up ouroboros-ing themselves beyond reason. Characters like "Mike" get name-dropped and have oodles of fans speculating about who they are, despite likely being just another Darkner boss (foreshadowed in the same way that Queen and the Knight were name-dropped by Jevil). When Deltarune is fully completed, it will be a game with clearly defined patterns, narratives, and twists that will make sense when looking at it as a whole. Especially in respect to Undertale, regardless of what Toby Fox said ONCE on the website's FAQ, which was clearly meant to lower fan expectations.

[@Cheetahhurricane]

It’s us and gaster.

[@cosgrovev2794]

The United States is invading Kris?

[@Chowder_T]

​@cosgrovev2794 I mean they invade everyone else. Why not Kris?

[@PhantomGato-v-]

​@@Chowder_Tof course the US goes for the non-binary person.

[@ShinySorlo]

I bet other people have/will say this but. You realise Chara doesn't control Frisk until the end of the Sans fight and somwhat after. It is us who commits genocide not Chara. Chara even gets disgusted with your genocide runs if you keep doing them. I understand it was a mistake, but it was quite a big one concidering you said something along the lines of "Possesion is the main focus of undertale's genocide route". But good job on the video.

[@tetrisbit]

well, it's simply just the player? come on... i mean it's so obviously the player, right?

[@Lammaha]

My theory is that the red soul belongs to kris but we the player are controlling the soul and we can probably control it because kris succeeded in summoning a "demon" (gaster probably) with which they made some kind of deal where the "demon" has control over the soul but as some kind of experiment gives the player control over the soul.

[@dragonfluf]

It's the Player and Gaster and Chara and Kris and Sans and Ralsei and The Egg Man and The Original Starwalker

[@LordSeraph999]

Problem with the Dess theory: It's a full blown Human soul. The color *is* a problem, but the shape is another issue. Monster souls have always been shown as upside down hearts, so to assume that Dess' soul would be the exact shape and color of a determined human soul is a bit of a stretch, not to mention the fact that noelle says the voice telling her what to do was "Terrifying" to her. If it really was her sister it would more likely be calming, soothing, a 𝙛𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙖𝙧 voice instead of a 𝕋𝕖𝕣𝕣𝕚𝕗𝕪𝕚𝕟𝕘 one.

[@2001CuisinartToasterr]

i mean what if dess was a human and was adopted like kris

[@LordSeraph999]

@@2001CuisinartToasterr That would fix the Shape and Color issue, but not the voice issue. And that itself is also unlikely.

[@ScorpionTamer]

I just wanna pause and say that if you name yourself Kris, the "You're about to meet someone very very wonderful" could be referring to Ralsei or Susie, in a way acknowledging Kris as the "true name".

[@belly990]

You mentioned OFF and even used their music I love you for that. +Sub

[@itibiti7459]

I think everyone can agree the red soul is the player

[@Deflamed_Sphere]

yeah

[@gertabeelievurr666]

That's the theory i like the most.

[@ScorpionTamer]

But what. About. The stains. In. The bird cage!! Has Kris just been taking their soul out of their chest for fun before we got there?!? Or the fact Kris as been acting weird for a notable amount of time before chapter 1?! It just doesn't seem plausible. I admit the theory makes sense, it just doesn't seem to fit the timeline trying to be established by the game, and there's plenty of other options that can be supported by all of the same evidence as player theory. Any form of higher power could fit in the theory, including Gaster or Chara (not saying I subscribe to either of those theories either btw.)

[@ahmed4363]

​@@ScorpionTamerkris has been acting weird all the time. Pretty sure alphys even says "Just recently?"

[@WhiteCresentKnight]

I’m inclined to agree that Player Theories are fine, Undertale did it itself so it carrying over in a game that questions what player control means for game characters.

[@youtubecomments2740]

12:19 He's talking to the fallen human in that moment, though the degree of separation we have from the fallen human is ... ambiguous, given that we're the one reviving the fallen human and granting them name, purpose, and determination.

[@fotnite_]

About the Japanese translation, I want to point out something I noticed here. For context, in modern usage, Katakana is primarily used for onomatopoeia and foreign loan words, whereas Kanji is used for nouns and adjectives in formal writing and hiragana is used for basically everything else. Both Gaster and Chara's writing is unusual in their own way. Chara's is pretty in line with formal writing, however this level of formality is very unusual for a young child. This is pretty in line with even the English speech in Undertale, where Chara has an unusually formal speech pattern, especially for a kid, which is interesting but this means the lines in Deltarune don't really give us more insight. Gaster, on the other hand, is almost using a formal writing style, except that every location that should be using hiragana is using katakana instead. The implication is that there's something either "alien" or "archaic" about Gaster, because this particular writing style was really only used by the Japanese Empire in official documents.

[@plutoisaghost3259]

the dess theory is cool, i'd never heard that one! also love the celeste gameplay lol

[@beli5622]

For the chara is the souls theory, Kris is basically the character comparison to chara

[@SwecrafterSlom]

I like JaruJaru's theory that the red soul is Kris's but they are being possessed by a monster soul which they absorbed (in this case he theorized it was Asriel's)

[@TheGlenn8]

Absolutely baseless. All of Jaru's theories suck. His argument that it isn't the player controlling Kris is literally "We'll I'm not literally inside of the game so it can't be that." Lmao. Pure fan fiction.

[@SwecrafterSlom]

@@TheGlenn8 Lmao yeah I can agree with that. But I like the idea and theme of such a theory's premise.

[@AltKaxREAL]

you know, I've had a very weird non-meta theory ever since I've heard about our control of Kris in Deltarune. it's more of a Undertale theory but i digress. -ho boy... here we go- *edit:* okay... JUST now i began to think about this and it's just so dumb, none of my theory makes sense because WE'RE AN ACTUAL PLAYER in Undertale, it gets very meta so mine does not hold up in the slightest, i am so sorry... i had something going but it's not worth explaining it in detail. tl;dr (short explanation of my dumb theory): i theorized that born humans with souls once they reach a certain age (assuming when they gain some sort of sentience) begin to act in very specific ways as they grow, wether to talk whatever comes to mind, let out their inner thoughts, and also basically the whole RPG-like menu we have in UT, with every opportunity they get they will act in very unique ways, be it strategically or naturally, they learn from what's good and what's bad, and when they finally age into a grown adult, the more they have control of their body to make their own decisions, not needing to depend on the instincts of their soul no longer. (edit) long half-assed unfinished explanation: -so, beginning with Frisk, ever since we get into the game, we have no background knowledge about Frisk and why did they decided to explore Mt. Ebott in in the first place. In the ruins even Asriel questions why did Frisk fall down in the Underground, was it an accident? was it... something personal that had to do with their homelife? none of us know, but then, this made me think about the soul in Deltarune, and how we influence with Kris' actions, because Kris KNOWS something about us, at certain moments we'll be given choices even though he probably doesn't want to respond in the first place, we also make him do things he never wished to do, so this made me think even more about the-

[@Coolskeleton599]

23:37 bruh chara didn’t do the genicide you did that’s dumb fanon chara chara never told you to do genicide and I think the only reason they did stuff without you to finish it

[@CyborusYT]

I think it's Kris's soul, but we've commandeered it, most likely with "help" from Gaster.

[@tearsofthekingdom9062]

That would make sense if we were the soul because Narrorator said he said choose YOUR vessel implying it is our soul.

[@woahamongus6519]

I can't handle the gangster SpongeBob pfp...insta sub

[@GameGardener]

That cotton eyed joe joke made me chuckle loudly

[@rafsandomierz5313]

When it comes to Dess theory, the color of monster souls is not really established since the only time we see soul of monster is in a battle mode where most of things are black and white (With certain exceptions like backgrounds, weapons, certain attacks, magic like Asgore's triend, Sans'es eye, Asriel's battle) by following the logic of lore Flowey should be colorful since he is the only being in the underground that contains a vessel *that is not made with magic* and doesn't dust away, (besides the humans and animals that fell in) the souls of monsters might have just less intense colors because of little amount of determination they are storing.

[@cloper_coldmail]

Demon = Fallen Angel The Knight wants to bring the Roaring and creates dark fountains so...??

[@CodySky]

1:35 this reminds me of OneShot because the player and the character we control are huge characters for the sake of the story

[@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard]

I think its meant to be an artifical representation of oursleves rather than literally our soul Undertale and Deltarune have very meta narratives My personal idea on Gaster's situation is that whatever accident happened to him sort of ejected his conciousness into a higher plane of existence, either our own or the next close thing, so to him both Undertale and Deltarune are games just how we see them, and like the scientist he is, he's absolutely intrigued by us and wants to learn I believe in the context of the story of both games, the player, you, the person actively playing, is a character who's also part of the story with your own perspective and the game is clearly playing with the dybamic of player character and player and what kind of person that reflects on you, if it reflects at all, and i feel like yhe soul being anyone else but the player kind of tramples on the meta narrative the games intentionally build and the whole theme of what is moral to do when you are suddenly in total control of someone else's life which they have no choice or control on, with the twist being that to them it is real life, it's their whole life and existence, messed with by some sort of stranger parasite or god to us? it's just a game, sure a game we might get attached to, but still a game, the way we see this is not the same Kris does, for us, there's no real consequences to doing Weird Route, at worst we'll just go to the files and change something up and it'll he back to normal, ultimately it's a game from our perspective, and no permanent punishment can be deslt to us we can't realitically change or shrig off, and thay dynamic i think is what Deltarune is aiming for

[@Ajdin_1103]

This video finna be interasting

[@probablyjustsnails]

YOOO thesoph upload just dropped -

[@ScorpionTamer]

I actually had my own Dess is the red soul theory. But I kind of forgot about the narrators importance when making it. I never wrote it down, which is something I still kick myself for because I did try to find as much evidence for it is as I could, but no longer remember all the details. The gist of the theory went that Kris witnessed Dess fall down and in order to save her from death absorbed her soul. We know that in Undertale that Chara and Asriel both shared at least some control over their fused body, although Asriel had the most control at the time. I even added onto this theory saying thay Asgore knows what happened and thats why he was kicked off the force and/or quit his job as an officer. Whether it was his unwillingness to look into Dess's disapearance or him actively sabotaging the investigation (assuming there was one to begin with). I also think that this may have had something to do with Asgore and Toriel's divorce in this timeline as the reason for their divorce in undertale was due to Asgore deciding to commit infantcide. Again, I had a more detailed explanation as to how this made sense at one point, but it's lost on me now. I did make a lot of fanfictiony type narratives to connect this theory to other aspects of the game like Asgore, but I think Kris absorbing Dess's soul makes sense on it's own. Admittedly, I don't have a lot of strong evidence for this theory (at least none I recorded for future/current me to look back on) and it does get weaker when you look at the Snowgrave route because, well, why would Dess do that to her own sister? I could say "well, maybe Dess wants Noelle to be stronger so she can save her from beind essentially dead somehow" or use the siphoning determination theory as a means to bring herself back to life. Or maybe shes going through something similar that Flowey went through and just doesn't know how to handle not being able to feel. Which works well with the dialogue hidden in the code of the game. I really like this theory, and I really want to put it out there even though I admit it's pretty weak. Maybe someone will see this and add onto it.

[@G_FLLR]

didnt even know about the Soulless Pacifist ending until this video. crazy stuff

[@cheddar204]

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[@cheddar204]

i did it x3, this reply is 22 minutes after the comment bc when i commented i was already some mins into the ad >~

[@kendallbabbitt1532]

The opening alone gets a like from me

[@aresrivera9744]

23:35 chara wasn’t the one making frisk do anything. If you read their dialogue, they say it was you who did it. In fact that we only have proof that Chara killed sans asgore and flowey because their damage matches what they do to us. Chara only helps you after a certain point . For example, if you try to fight undyne before exhausting to kill count chara will say “ strongly felt X left. Should not proceed yet.” But you can still proceed if you want to. Meaning chara isn’t the one responsible for genocide you are as prior to new home they only help you keep track.

[@ScorpionTamer]

There is also evidence that Chara is heavily assisting Frisk if not in control the whole time from the very beginning and at the end though. With Chara's dialogue asking "Where are the Knives" or when you check the mirror in Toriel's house and it says "It's me, [insert name you chose, aka Chara]" Chara also asks "Since when were you the one in control?" if you choose to not erase the world. So Chara's dialogue can suggest both narratives, but in either case Chara is still assisting you, guiding you. Hell, in the pacifist route, it isn't until Flowey becomes the hyper god of death that he starts calling you Chara, which may be due to him suddenly being able to feel again and associating you with his best friend. Honestly, I don't know why he suddenly sees you as Chara when he hasn't at any point in the run before then. However, in the Genocide route, Flowey immediately recognizes you as Chara once you've killed everyone. Meaning your bloodlust was recognizable to him, even though your physical appearance wasn't. This lines up with Asriel's dialogue by the flower bed where he claims that Chara wasn't actually a good person. While some dialogue does hint at it being Frisk or the Player, the majority of the evidence points to Chara at least being a willing accomplice. You can also include Chara wanting to kill the humans attacking them and Asriel as evidence. Cause that whole scene is very indicative of Chara's personality.

[@aresrivera9744]

@@ScorpionTamer ok and how does that confirm it was chara ?

[@ScorpionTamer]

@@aresrivera9744 because it almost always calls Chara out by name? I mean Frisk isn't referring to themselves as Chara here, that wouldn't make sense lol. Frisk definitely started the killing, but that could be labeled as self defense up until Chara decides to take control and/or influence Frisk to kill more until they're all gone. Look, I used to be a Chara defender, but everytime I did research to try and argue FOR Chara, I kept finding more and more evidence pointing towards her being evil and having ulterior motives. Frisk is a neutral character, who's actions are decided by us as the player, we start the killing, but Chara is the one convinces us to keep going "All those numbers that kept increasing. That was me." They wanted us to kill, whether they physically took control of Frisk's hand or not, Chara was the one in control.

[@aresrivera9744]

@@ScorpionTamer OK let’s establish a few things here . Chara hated humanity. From contacts in the game, we see that they were abused because they claimed the mountain to commit suicide. After that, they find out that the human committed genocide on the entire monster race. I would hate humanity. This is no different from undyne who tries to kill innocent child on pacifist . Chara loved monsters as they gave gifts to asgore calling him Mr. dad. Their knife is said to have been used for gardening meaning they helped asgore garden which explains why he’s tending the garden so much. They used to play with toys that frisk found Boring. They used to draw pictures of flowers. Both them and Azriel used to be embarrassed with asgore and Tori being too affectionate. They were this evil demon wearing human skin . They were a child no older than 12 who suffered the worst of humanity, and was given love by the monster. If this was some sort of 10000 IQ plan of killing humanity. Why didn’t they just kill Azrael in his sleep? Or just flat out considering humans are much stronger than monsters by default. But no they chose to die and give up their soul to save monster kind. How do we know this ? Again, if they just wanted to kill humans they could’ve killed asriel and not died rather than suffering a painful death. And remember, nobody knew that they would have split control so from chara perspective for all, they knew what they were gonna stop existing and he trusted Azriel. If you’re going to say they pressured asriel there’s no prove because we don’t see what they said and we know asriel he’s a pushover. Chara never pressure is him on the same level as kris from Deltarune with Noel. Asriel was not threatened he just didn’t wanna see his friend die but also realize that it’s for the sake of monster kind and doesn’t want to disappoint his friend. Now asriel saying chara is not the best person. Neither is anybody in the game. Undyne tries to murder an innocent child, muffet tries to eat you, mettaton kills people who don’t agree with him in his ending. Alphys well, we know what she did. Asgore kills 6 children. Mad Mew Mew try to kill you multiple times. Contrasting a frisk who is basically a saint while chara it’s not a fair comparison. Especially since they’re the ones who help you during pacifist with the good memories. And do not use laughing at Asgore Dying because every character in the game laughs when bad things happen. Undyne laughter when you cut her in half. One character in Snowden spells it out for you to hide from the pain inside and that that’s what everyone is doing. Now, when it comes to Frisk they are very neutral and at lv 8 they enjoy murdering things if you use the dummy . We see that frisk can move on their own in neutral and pacifist. This means that saying Chara is the one doing it is an assumption. And we know what happens when chara takes control. The attacks hit the characters automatically without our input and they all come with the signature 99999999 damage. In addition chara is soulless so what do you see in Genocide is as accurate as a Flowey is to Asriel. Chara then it goes on in genocide to say that you are the one who pushed the world to its limits. “ my human soul, my determination they were not mine, but yours.” In fact, they don’t like you erasing everything and kill everybody again . “ You and I are not the same, are we? This SOUL resonates with a strange feeling. There is a reason you continue to recreate this world. There is a reason you continue to destroy it. You. You are wracked with a perverted sentimentality. Hmm. I cannot understand these feelings any more. Despite this. I feel obligated to suggest. Should you choose to create this world once more. Another path would be better suited.” In fact, encouraged you to do pacifist. Chara dealing with what is confirmed it’s not pure evil, but just a broken kid who loves their family. They are the best person but neither is undyne . In fact. Undyne and chara aren’t that different. Anytime frisk moves it Could easily be frisk there’s no proof it’s chara that’s your headcanon. There is no proof chara’s is the one who did everything and fact it’s the opposite as they say. They’re only roll in geno is keeping track of how many monsters you kill and finishing off the last three characters when you can’t. This does not absolve you any wrongdoing or frisk as frisk enjoy every moment of it

[@elzixo6144]

12:42 a thing to point out here is that after that flowey says chara , which means he was talking to chara. That doesn't make much sense since chara isn't there, but that's how it was in the game.

[@SatireGod]

I like the machine theory. The red soul in undertale works differently from the one in deltarune, I’ve had the idea that they’re different, but deltarune’s soul being a machine definitely makes things more interesting. Presumably gaster is still alive in the deltarune universe, or at least is able to continue his work, with that it should be assumed that gaster would have succeeded where alphys failed, with the experimentation of determination and souls being successful and with that gaster making something equivalent to a human soul” So my guess is that it’s some sort of artificial soul However in undertale, it takes hundreds of monsters to equal a single human soul, so how deltarune’s artificial one is made leaves us with another question

[@saulcanogil4527]

The monsters in deltarune were never imprisoned in the underground, if deltarunes version of gaster exist he could have had more freedom to investigate human souls.

[@feenickstv4209]

Flowey has commited the worst possible sin. Using Twitter

[@AMHT-qd4to]

I personally do belive that the soul is the player just based on the evidence we have as well as an idea that near the end of the game like chapter 5 or 6 something big will happen and the soul and kris will be separat and the soul will be given a body but it would be the body that you make at the very start of deltarune

[@papayapeaks1693]

Your Celeste gameplay puts me in a trance 😂 I keep going in and out of focus on the theories.

[@Egg_under_couch]

My best theory, is that you are the soul, and that's what I'm gonna believe

[@cythulhubuthebegamin4902]

There is one piece of evidence that could prove that Kris has a monster soul attached to their own soul, and that it the end of Chapter one. This was mentioned once by JaruJaru on KZbin. There's a moment where Kris's soul shines white (the color of monster souls). There's a chance this was done just for visual effect but we know that when Asriel took Chara's soul that he had to fight over control of his body, so the same could be true for Kris. Also, I personally believe that Kris is this timeline's Chara. This would explain why Kris acts similar to Chara with their love of chocolate and prank pulling. Kris has shown that they hold some weird emotions regarding humanity, as well. When they look at the human history book at the library they are quick to close it, and refuse to look at it again. Chara is implied to have been abused by other humans and that's why they were so willing to kill a whole village to shatter the barrier. Chara became a game completionist demon in Undertale for the same reasons Asriel became a bloodthirsty flower who wanted god-hood, so when I say that Kris is Chara, I mean the version of Chara before they died. (Also I honestly don't think Chara was intended to be the canon name of the first fallen human but just a way of telling the player that they ARE the fallen human or the fallen human is the Main "Chara"cter, so when "Chara" shows up at the end they are not meant to be "Chara" but YOU. But then again, "Chara" can be confused by your actions if you do the genocide route multiple times, so there's a chance you are playing as Frisk and you, as Frisk, are making the decision to geno, instead of you as Chara. It's kinda weird to figure out where you the player, Frisk, and Chara end and begin as the protag of Undertale, and Deltarune might actually end up clearing that all up.)

[@zippius]

I would agree, but Kris has the same skin color and pixel outline color as Frisk, and is using Asriel's old clothes as hand me downs, which explains why they're not wearing Frisk's colors. However, the timeline for it being Chara makes sense, since they fell into the underground in 201X while deltarune takes place in 202X and Kris is appropriately older here. But then, all the UNDERTALE characters in town are the same age or older than they are in deltarune. Also, Kris' name is closer to an anagram of Frisk's rather than Chara. Also also you can explain Kris not wanting to see the book about humans because they're the only human in town and is sensitive about it- they dressed up as a monster when they were younger. Alternatively, Kris isn't Chara or Frisk and is their own person! Or maybe they're a combination of both! I have no idea!

[@СФЫНКС]

11:51 - After all, Flowey is a psychopath, so it's not surprising.

[@Hyperboid]

0:15 Soph: "Where did it come from? Where did it go?" Me (jokingly): "cotton eye joe" Soph: "Where did it come from? Cotton-Eye Joe ⚡⚡⚡" Me: ._.

[@TheGlenn8]

My theory is that it's Kris's soul, but that we control it.

[@Julnz]

Referring to the part around 7:00 - Toby once said in a tweet that Tweets and Merch aren't canon, so I don't think these tweets are meant to be considered evidence, just fun immersion to build up hype.

[@tartra]

"Undertale isn't connected to Deltarune" First thing we see in Deltrarune: "ARE WE CONNECTED? GOOD."

[@HampterReactz]

The dress theory works because it would go along with the snow grave oute because noelle is listening to us because we are their older sibling