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[@_dbm2902]

That fight simulation at 7:35 is so brilliant, great addition from Hamster

[@Deto128]

Harstem better be on his toes if his projections are going to get fact-checked in real-time now! :D

[@qweytrop572]

Hamster is just too good

[@ivanilla6780]

I was laughing from hearst the whole video through. Thank you for casting my game and giving me tips. ;D It was a treat in an otherwise really bad day.

[@-JackER]

seems so easy when watching without fog and from the outside of the match right?

[@ivanilla6780]

@@-JackER Yes, it is way less intimidating. Especially seeing clearly which bases he didn't have. When I was playing, it felt like he constantly had every base I didn't have vision over. xP

[@jaewonkim279]

You need to answer the question, is it I vanilla? Or Ivan Illa

[@patrickwinkelmann4002]

Man if you build only 10 vikings you win this game......

[@Gitalien1]

I can't use ghost too, because am too lazy to click TAB before stiming after my casual F2 😂

[@BPL_cs_91]

You just made me feel very uncomfortable as I am eating Spaghetti Carbonara while watching this video and I have a mango prepared as dessert. Coincidence? I think not. Please stop stalking me, Captain.

[@ralphm4132]

It's for your own good, to make sure you don't mix them.

[@aresjin7566]

@@ralphm4132 they will have to meet in the stomach lol

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Don’t sell your chairs on e-bay then

[@sakesaurus]

@@enriquegarciacota3914 yooooo engineering bay chair upgrade

[@Cheshire9k]

What did the captain put in his coffee today? He kept talking about the 'glaive' Adepts for 8 minutes while the Twilight Council only started building at 08:49 in game time.

[@fungoose2195]

such a misplay that it did not compute

[@FanaticTemplar]

Right, right, but can you investigate TcUltimate's 133% winrate vs Zerg, because that feels ACTUALLY imba :P.

[@isaacparks968]

Uthermal: “ghosts to gm”. This Terran:”no ghosts to gm” lol

[@AngryDrake]

I think the Zerg stat is "four wins to minus one losses". Brilliant!

[@Supergoon1989]

29:50 How can a MASTERS Terran player sieging up liberators BACKWARDS!!?? This just blows my mind. He absolutely threw this game away, Terran had this in the bag a few minutes ago. Unbelievable!!!

[@HellecticMojo]

Players are only Terran after all. mistakes are always something that can happen to the best of them

[@irrelevant_noob]

On the other hand, how can a GM 'toss play like in this game... and still have 600 more MMR than ivanilla? o.O

[@chloesmith4065]

One would think the Protoss is just not playing his best

[@EternalHappElements]

That combat simulation at 07:50 already set the tune.

[@qwqwq2010]

15:50 trade info is missing a disruptor, which got beautifully sniped by Ivanilla at the beginning of the fight.

[@megadeth-1a885]

TC was freaking out. Just didn't know what to do with his army in clutch situations. We all have those days

[@meandmyself1600]

Doom dropping an (initially) empty main and killing 3 pylons is a talent on its own.

[@protolink24]

Can't wait to finally take a look at that army composition

[@JustWatoo]

Haha, if you know you know...

[@allmhuran]

I didn't go back through the video to check, but it seemed to me that the colossi lived for a really, really, really long time. There must be a couple of executors in there. Ivanilla called it - they didn't make vikings. But they also implied that the liberators were useless. Well yeah, if you're using them as pitiful anti air instead of sieging them up they're useless. As much as the lack of ghosts was obviously an issue, the game turned on liberator usage. On the occasions they were being sieged up, terran had complete control and was way ahead on resources lost. When they weren't sieged that all changed. The fight in the protoss main was the "I didn't learn my lesson" moment. Terran dropped from 126 army supply to 64. Protoss went from 116 to 80. One disurptor kills 18 supply at 27:09, long after it should have been destroyed by liberators... which are instead busy throwing confetti into the air.

[@calebadam2576]

They were just tossing confetti in a welcome home gesture since it was a surprise party in the protoss main, of course.

[@GameFuMaster]

he could have just A-moved into the enemy army to snipe colossus as well, but he always half committed

[@colossaldonut5190]

To be fair most of it was them sieging up all on-top of each other but it definitely didn’t help that 0 Vikings or Ghosts were produced

[@mauzytv]

FIGHT SIMULATION! :O HAMSTER YOU BEAUTY!!! The editing once again is impecable, loved it! :D Once again another great episode! Learnt a lot, laughed a lot, enjoyed it overall, thanks Captain

[@hamster_designs]

:3

[@Silversiren28]

Harstem, about people who try to pay less than agreed... There's always spite as well. You could tell them the deal is off and you are no longer selling them the chair. Then you wait for them to leave, give it a little extra time, then carry the chair down to the sidewalk and leave it there with a piece of paper on it that says "FREE CHAIR." If this isn't illegal where you live, consider this method if you can't find a qualified buyer that will pay the agreed price. Whenever I do this with unwanted furniture at my place, it's gone very quickly. I'll set out an extra shelf by the road, go back inside my house. Have a glass of water. Then five minutes later, I'll look out my window. There's already some soccer mom tackling the shelf and dragging it into the back of her minivan like a leopard skulking away with prey in its jaws to feed its young.

[@vernadrae33]

Ghost: "I can EMP your shields" Protoss: "You MIGHT not hit me" Ghost: "This range? In this caliber? Even if I miss I can't miss"

[@jpVari]

The bit about only making marine/marauder triggered a memory I still have from beta of the day I learned that vikings hit colossus because of how tall they are. Makes me tear up a little

[@anthonymoore1464]

I love the advancement in your casts lately. As a daily watcher of you and lowko its been awesome. the fight simulation for that adept fight at the terran base really hits home!

[@mickmccasker6401]

"Protoss are so OP that a guy 600 MMR higher than me is an easy fight" - some braindead Terran

[@williamguy88]

Haha Terran macroed like a diamond. No 3rd cc even started until minute 7 is downright comical

[@yesiamdaz]

This Protoss is the level of Harstem's Terran so yeah, Protoss ezpz.

[@HKRazieL]

gotta love terrans that unsiege when they see the enemy coming to them

[@chloesmith4065]

"run away... Run awaaayyy!!"

[@janefkrbtt]

the guy opening with Captain, knows how to catch harstem's attention

[@jagk-du3yw]

Meanwhile me here waiting for a single viking to be built at the right time

[@richardgallimore5976]

I kind of get when there was 9ish Phoenix that feels like an uphill battle to only then start Vikings, but 1 or 2 Ghosts could just EMP the Phoenix/other units & then Viking+MMM could wreck that considering no Storm & low Disruptor count at that time.

[@morgwai667]

i love the in-picture fight simulations added in post! ❤

[@simonkonicek1300]

I am not sure if Harstem or someone else do editing. like that brain add simulation at 8:00 etc...but its a really nice job...

[@mishazerg]

Thanks to Hamster, his editor.

[@emilbortnowski128]

Your production is spot on.

[@blankp4ge]

That was hard to watch, but as always, Harstem made it a lot easier lol

[@vinceb8123]

Fight simulation cam?! Hoooly, hamster going above and beyond once again ❤

[@hamster_designs]

❤

[@ward648]

Mech armor finally paying off 27:20

[@jorgeescobar8046]

i was wainting for this

[@Sara_Feingold]

Honestly surprised at this point that Harstem didn't blame the chair cheapskates on Belguim XD

[@RapiBurrito]

Dude that face cam is looking crisp af

[@GoodMomo]

This video came just in time for my nap.

[@vinniechan]

I love how he brought up he survived mass adept without mentioning that the adepts routed his marine balls before going into his base also he managed to do all the wrong things with liberators the toss was able to do that wonky build order because he got away with so much

[@colossaldonut5190]

Protoss going Glaive Adepts without the Glaives upgrade was truly a big brain moment. I feel attacked by the grocery shopping comment because I am 100% guilty of it.

[@chloesmith4065]

It's like a marine timing without stim

[@timothydavis8388]

Y’all… finally we can take a look at the army composition that teaser a few days ago had me at the edge of my seat

[@Caldera01]

Battle simulations? Hot damn, Hamster's production value is just off the scale!! Give this Hamster a carrot!! Or a raise if you don't have a carrot.

[@hamster_designs]

:3 🥕

[@oscarpardo9279]

Hay mi corazon, min 17:04 ese golpe del disruptor le bajo hasta las neuronas.

[@bencheevers6693]

My god, harstem with the milk burn was super personal, I mean for me it's 1l jugs of chocolate milk but that cut deep

[@andreashalbfeld7671]

You're a content MACHINE!

[@pigfarmer1313]

This game was Throw of Century :D

[@camwah9403]

Surely at the grandmaster or slightly below level, they've worked out how to tab through units to use stim or emp right...maybe not using ghosts due to the extra hotkeys? Slightly slow reactions for using libs as well...all in all though they play well above anything I could muster....still suck though and imbalance is unjust.

[@tambaz2276]

He's 4.3k, way below GM. The protoss is signifcantly higher MMR.

[@johnrissmiller7683]

Hey captain, I love these videos... However is it fair for you to judge what is imba with perfect knowledge of the game that the player doesn't have... Have you ever thought about evaluating it from only first person perspective? Maybe it wouldn't be enjoyable... Just curious if it would change your tips and what not... I appreciate the tips but some of them I wouldn't be able to act one because I don't have that information... Anyways, keep em coming, great content

[@Appletank8]

TBF, scouting is a skill that is also extremely important. Just as how being bad at macro will result in poor armies, and therefore poor combat efficiency, poor scouting results in incorrect decision making.

[@erikderfreak]

Classic example of a higher Elo viewing a lower Elo. Not saying this is low Elo, but saying that you need the right tactic for the exact Elo you’re in!

[@jeffreywilliams3421]

That first adept also got a marine kill in addition to the two SCVs, my faith in Hamster's post fight tabulation is shattered

[@noxwalrus]

I'm totally with you on those people showing up with less money to buy stuff. Straight to jail.

[@HENTAICOMBO]

133% win rate againt zerg what a legend

[@user-ev9cq3im9j]

My favorite content on harstem's channel is here

[@drdorenton1060]

I really like how he complained about protoss a-move army but didn't make any spellcasters himself...

[@Gizzardx0]

Say what you will about the fight, but he did say sorry for the manner mule.

[@Plecto88]

"any amount of vikings just wins you the game right here". I Giggled

[@ameliaochoa394]

I say no to people that go lower than the agreed upon sell price. Just out of principal. You said $10 so it’s $10 you drive back home for all I care.

[@shieldphaser]

4:50 Well I mean by giving that guy the sale you're creating the problem. If the go-to response to that kind of haggling was just a flat "no sale" then people wouldn't keep trying it. If they win by doing it, that teaches them to keep doing it.

[@amhm8664]

good one!

[@valzuman]

i appreciate the absolute overshooting on the editing lol

[@jeremykiahsobyk102]

"Starcraft 2 is a game." - Harstem, 2023

[@hamster_designs]

Facts

[@tobiasdeppler5048]

He should have at least sniped the nexus with the mass landing in the main so that recall is denied

[@richardgallimore5976]

I wouldn't even mind baiting a recall, I think he could have won that fight. Siege all Libs on the Nexus so if a recall comes something like 8 units die instantly to the Libs. There is a Mothership so scan, set the units up in a flank/concave, if they don't recall back whatever, but if they do that Protoss army should die.

[@d3j4v00]

My main take away is ”when maxed, attack”

[@memph1ston]

This one was rough. Build vikings or ghosts win game. :(

[@skah5651]

HAMSTER! YOu rock!

[@hamster_designs]

🎸

[@Robert-iu4bx]

It is great like you desribed several skills you need to be at least decent in order to be good player.... I have none of that even when I was trying :-D

[@Pyladin]

I think Harstem was genuinely frustrated and angry in this episode 🥰

[@bencheevers6693]

lmao at Hambone catching the 133% winrate on zerg and then writing a note about it

[@riley97]

I don't even understand how it happened

[@kirito3082]

the biggest problem was that the Terran simply didn't close the game, he literally waited for protoss to max out and kept the game going until protoss had a chance to push back and that was a 60 supply worth mistake

[@MatthewToussain]

Outplayed the Protoss. Then outplayed himself >.

[@strammerdetlef]

omg I agree so much on the ebay price thing, those people are vultures

[@pauldraper1736]

"It's so braindead to play, that with mediocre skill you can get to GM with it. And I will demonstrate that today." So.....get to GM with it?

[@wherethetatosat]

This just came across as somebody who wanted to complain for the sake of it. "I know Vikings are the best AA, and I lost cause I didn't have very good AA, but it's their fault somehow."

[@sorsocksfake]

Guessing the game (re-)turned by not sieging the liberators on the recalling army? Kinda sad when a good game gets lost by one mistake. That's life though. Kinda like that Roman Emperor who wanted to invade Britain but he didn't have boats, so he whipped the sea instead. Hit a dolphin, though. ...I may be misremembering this.

[@blu3h4t]

ah dutch, ok now i see why you laugh with belgium :D

[@odnamsrazor2364]

i thought it was Captain Harstem who was demonstrating that a medium skill player could get to Grandmaster with Protoss? . time to sue for copyright infringement.

[@Knetknight19]

It does feel a little imba when you’re 3:3 air and ground, maxed and your opponent isn’t close and wins a fight. I know that’s because he lacked comp counters, but still. Feels bad man

[@aziraphael0690]

so what the heck DID he do to the zergs?

[@hamster_designs]

He might be the chosen one...

[@anon_moose]

I'm curious about that 133% win rate

[@trixmtll1393]

Good news everyone! im so happy, i got a new chair for 7.50$!

[@comagreeny7194]

4:47 If it works people will keep doing it.

[@Random595]

If someone shows up with less money than agreed upon, reject them. By accepting less, you are encouraging them to do it more, making the problem worse.

[@brennancallahan1059]

whats wrong with drinking the whole jug of milk

[@cavemantero]

no ghost no viking no chance.

[@alistairbolden6340]

Harstem was really an idoit here, he needed to be looking at this from the view point of the Terran, he was telling him to fight an army he could not see, the mothership offscrean was cloaking the protoss army. Had the Terran seen the Protoss army infront of him he would have traded with it but instead he was trying to workout where it was. Ghosts are op but Queens are the best unit in the entire game, its not even close. They provide the Zerg with lava and can take on far more expensive units than themselves.

[@TheTykk]

If terran build vikings and/or ghost he could win easily!

[@Eshelion]

Most Terran players simply have PTSD and fear of certain Protoss units engraved deep in their mind. ;)

[@artemirrlazaris7406]

hmm... adepts range 4... marmars have range 5 and 6.. so buildings can give you advantages ot out range your enemy.. but meh.

[@min009]

My man max out on MMM and didn't do drops.

[@Ole_Rasmussen]

Player pokes their toe inside M3 and starts talking shit on GM players 😭 Mfer sits at the same MMR as me and lets adepts tour his main like he's selling tickets smh

[@r2dxhate]

painful micro

[@ryanwilson5842]

Captain needs to clean his microphone

[@gentymathis2160]

Is this protoss really GM ? Seems more like diamond to me

[@ddenozor]

Funny thing is, at no point Ivanilla needed ghosts or vikings. He could just attack toss army when he was maxed and toss wouldn't be able to remake whatever units he lost because he had no eco and only 1 base working. It's just unbelievable how much terran can accomplish with a combination of t1 barracks units and 3-4 medivacs.

[@pauldraper1736]

3:50 Mr Beast disliked this video. Ha ha ha ha

[@libetop]

For once I understand the terrans frustration. He did outplay his opponent consistently in the game. All the protoss had to do was sit back and amass a 200 supply a move army. But in the end T should have realized he needed to fight a lot more on the other side of the map so that his superior economy enabled him to remax much faster

[@williamguy88]

Bro Terran didn’t place his third cc until minute 7. Grandma macro yields grandma results :)

[@norberthiz9318]

outplayed consistently? what are you on about? His early game was absolute garbage, and while complaining about protoss a-move, only builds marines and maraduers almost the entire game against a very well rounded protoss army. And then makes libs for some reason and uses them apallingly. he did a ton of eco damage, but don't be surprised that a diverse super high tech toss army beats pure T1 infantry, when you do nothing

[@libetop]

@@norberthiz9318 it's all a matter of comparison mate. I didn't say he played perfectly i said he played better than his opponent.

[@norberthiz9318]

@@libetop but that is objectively untrue. Just cause you had better multitasking you didn't play better and you don't deserve to win. There is much more to sc2 then that. The Terran had an awful early game, had way worse macro, micro, decision making, game awereness, army comp. The ONLY thing he had going for himself is the better multitasking and he had better upgrades. But that doesn't matter when you don't capitalize on it. If you make yourself a win condition and mess it up. It is ALL your fault. This is a strategy game after all.

[@libetop]

@@norberthiz9318 I don't quite agree with you. What I'm saying is that controlling his army is harder than controlling a carrier colossi army and he did a pretty good job of it. His macro wasn't great but he did have a vastly superior economy lead. His lost because of the lack of ghosts and poor decision making at the end of the game. But my point is: what he did is harder than what the toss did.

[@SapphirosCZ]

"Never give away things you can sell" - i think Harstem isnt much of a fan of charities.

[@HelloQro]

133.3% winrate vs zerrg, protos is trully imba, winning games that haven't even been played :v

[@alinmeleandra3175]

I already know the answer...

[@ehk5948]

Mr Beast is giving away stuff to collect add revenue. It's a business model.

[@drtomo5548]

If anything, this game tells the story of the Terran bio being OP. Fighting with only Tier1 units vs all the highest tech possible on Toss, and still almost wining. Terran did not even react to any events of the game.

[@norberthiz9318]

It isn't op l, the only reason it was close is because toss had no upgrades. If he is equal on upgrades he wipes the floor with that bio army

[@jingxuanwang8674]

Just saying, the way you worded it it sounds like he wants $750 instead of $7.50 for the chair...

[@dizastro5437]

I like it. Ok, 7.50, but ima add 3.00 for wasting my time.

[@Devillionaire]

First. Booyah.

[@user-ru1yv1ve9f]

"Great" explanation: Terran lose with the impressive advantage couse he didn't built ghosts! Although toss didn't built any custers at all!!! How about 3xadvanage in upgrades, more army supply and money bank??? So even after all of that toss is not a-click race? I mean that for winning, terran must made smth special, opposite it, toss just move a-click. PS also liberators good at killing interceptors (must be if belive in description)