Who really should have won the Ballon d'Or?

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The 2023 Ballon d’Or is up for grabs this week, with Lionel Messi the firm favourite to pick up his 8th trophy from the France Football Magazine following his World Cup 2022 victory.
Erling Haaland is also in the running after a superb debut season with Manchester City, winning the treble while scoring a staggering 52 goals across all competitions.
But JJ Bull believes someone else should be in the running. Just who is that player, and how deep does the conspiracy go against them never having won it?
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#BallonDor #Messi #Haaland

[@nickfenn]

I feel like someone let JJ have more creative freedom on this one and he did not disappoint. 11/10

[@ernestniyokwiringirwa4986]

definitely... he ran away with it

[@halfsquat24]

100% agree

[@Lakhany07]

They took the chains off the Bull.

[@ratboy555]

The TIFO GOAT ❤

[@danielbaker3487]

I want his Jon Mackenzie shirt...

[@athreyathandeswaran7510]

Love the ending 🤣 "Time will get you" *Time doesn't let him finish*

[@blast473]

Lord save the Editor from the wrath of JJ the Bull

[@John_Kennedy27]

I feel like this comment is here to make everyone watch to the end of the video

[@Omar_Little]

did he say "aids will get you"?

[@juanhunter7073]

​@@Omar_Littlenow why would you think "aids" was the word instead of the more obvious, contextually-appropriate, word "age"?

[@SyRZ]

​@@juanhunter7073nah i thought aids too

[@Joseph100x]

You are honestly interesting, funny, playful, informative and educative at once. You deserve the Ballon d'or

[@1lamafarmer]

Wow, thank you stranger, that's very kind of you to sa- oh you meant JJ.

[@travicle85]

I gave my subscription at least

[@Snookbone]

Well done on Liking The Thing

[@Snookbone]

​@@Real11100massively overrated - just brownnosing

[@pedrocrztxr]

Maybe if he joins Real Madrid or Barcelona

[@nnannamba2643]

It is truly wild that we often ignore just how impressive Kevin de Bruyne is. This video reminded me of a highlight reel where he used his head to play a threaded through-pass. The man is low-key, but he's a truly remarkable footballer.

[@VvDominatoRvV]

Couldn't agree more

[@Filip-ko8wl]

definitly, he's by far my favorite player and I can never understand why people don't seem to talk about him much even thoug most recognise him as (one of) the best attaking midfielders in the world

[@liyakhanyanonkondlo523]

He's not the best player in the world, he has never been either.

[@mugerzane]

He is the Xavi of Man City

[@nasseralsuleimani4807]

I need that john mackenzie shirt tifo should sell it

[@junewalker9341]

I think KDB makes it look too easy, and that's why he doesn't get as much credit as he should. He plays simply, but brilliantly. Thomas Muller is another player that gets underrated like this. I think they both have the vision to choose the simplest option that creates the most, so the result is super effective but not as dazzling.

[@diegolisandror2]

Yes but at least KDB does things that blow your mind like those crazy impossible passes for example, Müller has a simpler style but yeh he is very underrated as well. BUT the most underrated footballer in earth is Busquets

[@TheEquiknoxx]

I live for videos by JJ honestly since the TiFO football show went silent, i just enjoy this man

[@relzreborn]

Live for God not man

[@TheEquiknoxx]

@@relzreborn it is an expression.

[@XxiSuckAtNamesxX]

​@@relzrebornyeah cos that always ends well... Just enjoy the video man, JJ's presentation is awesome

[@dettemichaels]

Mohamed salah is another player that strikes the mind. He is 2nd in both the leaderboard JJ showed, and also scores goals. Haaland plays for Norway so that's another reason for him probably winning fewer dórs than he will otherwise have. Mbappe and bellingham seem to be favourably placed in that respect.

[@joshdawson5850]

It’s a very Eurocentric award.

[@samkelorashuza5949]

​@@joshdawson5850It's a South American Eurocentric award

[@amritbhattarai5083]

​@@samkelorashuza5949its not at all South American centric. All the south American players to have won it were bosses

[@samkelorashuza5949]

And the Europeans weren't?@@amritbhattarai5083

[@SKa-tt9nm]

It’s Eurocentric in terms of the players that win it dominate European competitions and/or the World Cup.

[@lucaslonchampt613]

I do. I have been killing it in the C team playing in the 7th division of my local county

[@deeznoots6241]

How many goals and assists?

[@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici]

​@@deeznoots6241who's counting?

[@ajpillay79]

@@deeznoots6241stat merchant ruining the game

[@pouredupinarat]

Give my goat Lucas Lonchampt the Ballon d'Or or he'll retire

[@josuebarboza9809]

🐐🐐🐐

[@raydex5620]

man, JJ can be so fkn chaotic lmao, I always get excited when he's the one presenting the video we gotta protect this man at all costs

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

I agree. I love it.

[@Joof_]

The John Mackenzie 'aka the Goblin King' shirt reveal was perfect

[@barnaclefelching4079]

Insanity at its purist. 😂

[@Tentetnikov69]

I would genuinely buy that if Tifo/JJ/The Goblin King decided to sell it.

[@bentn13]

It feels like JJ isn't off the rails. He's transformed his train into something that can ride on whatever surface. Sometimes he's on tracks, sometimes on earth, sometimes on tarmac, sometimes on water, sometimes he even flies. Rails can simply not contain the train that he is anymore.

[@hamidrezapirkalkhoran357]

JJ nailed it, as always he does🤣

[@Jothamvvw]

Except he says Kaka won his Ballon D'Or at Real, even though he was still at AC Milan and wouldn't leave for another year and a half.

[@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici]

​@@Jothamvvwthought so. This threw me into a cognitive loop enough to comment.

[@bububaba8815]

@@Jothamvvw He said that Kaka won his Ballon D'Or at Real because JJ is a leader of a giant conspiracy against AC Milan.

[@Mdksupreme1]

NO TF HE DIDN'T, AND HE NEVER! NAILS ANYTHING

[@heilmannbarca]

@@Mdksupreme1 it's good to be a Messi fan these days, I love comments like yours 💀

[@sohammukherjee8730]

KDB should be in contention for the Ballon d’Or title ! Infact he should win it! Absolutely instrumental for City winning the treble, equalised against Real in the semis and 3 assists in the overall two legs, 2 goals and 1 assist in the title decider against Arsenal, 2 assists in the FA Cup Final against Utd and I’m bang on sure if he wasn’t injured he would’ve been the assister for that Rodri goal. Its an absolute shame that he’s never been higher than 3rd in the d’Or rankings! Mane getting 2nd in the 22-23 season was embarrassing! Imo Messi KDB Haaland Rodri and Mbappe should be the top 5

[@muhpiyas]

Lol

[@acahn8505]

Unfortunately most people only value goals and for this reason many will see haaland as man city's best player. It's difficult to win the ballon d'Or while not being viewed as your team's best player

[@kacperstoj4235]

I would put both Rodri and Gundogan higher

[@reizaifafu]

​@@kacperstoj4235may we know the reasons?

[@skullxishim]

​@@reizaifafuRodri should win it imo he led his country (spain) to win the nations league and was the glue to man city winning the treble as we can see in their last 3 domestic games which they los t. He also scored the UCL final winning goal all up to that. But sadly a player like rodri will most likely never win the Ballon d'Or

[@martimferreira3433]

Yeah, I'd definitely vote for de Bruyne. I don't get why people don't mention him alongside Messi and Haaland. Definitely expect them to be the top 3 Because at least with the likes of Rodri you know he isn't mentioned because he's a defensive player...

[@samkelorashuza5949]

On your the Rodri point, it's still not right. We have to stop expecting goalkeepers, defenders, dm's to score 50 goals in order to acknowledge them as the best players in the world. What more can they do?

[@martimferreira3433]

@@samkelorashuza5949 Absolutely

[@fotrj]

​@@samkelorashuza5949Hope there is not a forward who scored 50 goals.

[@kamikoto1558]

The reason why Messi winning was so bs wasn't just because haaland desevered it but a hundred other players too

[@fotrj]

@@kamikoto1558 Cry today. Cry tomorrow. Cry forever.

[@dr.football4662]

The reason Messi's wins it is because messi is a mix of the best creative attacker and the best goalscorer. He plays simples like Kdb but also produces goals like Haaland. Messi is just magical.

[@migzmor]

And benzema won it because hes a goal merchant just like halland , something dosent add up

[@migzmor]

And benzema won it because hes a goal merchant just like halland , something dosent add up

[@dr.football4662]

@@migzmor lmao Benzi that season was killer. He wasnt a tap in merchant. His link-up was fire. He was messiac. He dropped deep and then produced. And tbh even if you are a striker like Haaland you still deserve it but a higher probability would always be someone who has the mix. And messi does best of the mix. And if you think Benzema only scored tap pins that season you didn't watch football because I am a barca fan and that season Benzi was so crucial even if he didn't score goals.

[@migzmor]

@@dr.football4662 bro stfu yes he did all that but it wasn't significant, benzema was not a playmaker he was a goal scorer, he's link up play is as good as halland just because he has vini jr hoo can make the most out of annything overestimate he's playmaking capabilities, go rewatch it yourself if you don't believe me, it's unjustified to say benzema was a killer while halland was probably the best goal poacher in world football and had good enough link up play, this is called being biased

[@vevymotivation]

@@migzmor well Benzema is way better play than Haaland , Benzema can drop and combine also he was way to clutch that season . If everyone banters Haaland for missing every important game Benzema was on mision to win CL that season .

[@robinthebobin6537]

JJ has truly gone off the rails - I love it😂. And what on earth is that tshirt😂😂😂

[@rohitvaishnav25]

I was surprised not to see KDB in 3rd position for the Ballon d'Or this year. He had the most assists in the Champions League, Premier League, and FA Cup (tied) last season. Completely overlooked.

[@bububaba8815]

Died laughing throughout while also getting great informative content. JJ's the best!

[@scottalvarez149]

I knew before the video started that the answer would be De Bruyne, he absolutely deserves it.

[@ducvietphan3300]

Deserve it ? Even Mane, Firmino and Salah havent won it but kiddo said he deserves it 😂😂

[@scottalvarez149]

With the seasons CR7 and Messi were having back then, obviously none of them would have won it over one of those two. No one can deny those two have slowed down now. City won the treble and in my opinion KDB was the best best player on the best team, but hey if you think Firmino deserved a ballon d'or everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[@ducvietphan3300]

@@scottalvarez149 clearly dont know ball and have never watched Firmino play then, best false 9 in world football. Zero knowledge

[@ducvietphan3300]

@@scottalvarez149 won the treble ? Bought the treble u mean, I dont need to remind u of hundred of violations infringements do I ?

[@ducvietphan3300]

@@scottalvarez149 last time I checked Mane and Salah both finished higher than ur KDB but have never won the Ballon d’Or though, and they didnt buy any trophies, they earned and fought for it

[@rexlongfellow]

Glad you showed that it's not just about the football, exactly what we want to see in a footballing award.

[@somerandomguyonyoutube2725]

With all the hype around forwards who score a lot of goals or midfielders who provide a lot of assists, players like Rodri usually go under the radar because most football fans only look at the numbers instead of watching the game. The fact that Man City lost all three games Rodri was suspended in says a lot about his importance in the team. Imo Rodri should be Top 4 considering his stats so far. ⚽️ Goal in UCL final ⚽️ Goal vs Bayern 🅰️ Assist in UEFA Super Cup Final 🏅 UCL final MOTM 🏅 UCL POTT 🏅 Nations League POTT 🏆 UCL winner 🏆 Premier League Winner 🏆 FA Cup winner 🏆 Nations League winner

[@FootballBamberger]

Rodri deserved to win the 2023 Ballon d'Or.

[@Chris-nq9nb]

This was one of my favourite tifo irl videos. Far less repetitive than a lot of football content.

[@fullydavid]

It's odd how nobody really mentions Kevin Keegan when talking about the best players in history - he won two Ballon D'Ors in a row and was a core member of one of the most dominant club teams. Maybe because he left to Hamburg at his peak when we couldn't watch him..? I'd like to see a series on unjustly ignored footballers of the past.

[@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici]

Nobody mentions Michael Owen

[@fullydavid]

people talk about Michael Owen a fair bit, especially 18 year old Owen. Maybe he's a little underrated - but it's like Keegan never existed.

[@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici]

@@fullydavid that's a fair argument

[@mananagnihotri]

Keegan won twice and his replacement Dalglish never won but he is more remembered in history. Strange, Keegan deserves better.

[@KanJonathan]

Gary Lineker lost to Igor Belanov in 1986 was also strange.

[@thunder-bear7554]

This might be the best video i have ever seen from this chanel. The format and way it was made/edited was just really fun and intertaning. GREAT work. And this it not saying the other videos are bad this one was just better.

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

entertaining

[@Goonerpoo]

😂😂😂 This video is so funny and informative. Well done JJ

[@harshilpatel684]

Haaland KDB or Rodri should really be given a shout this year if it weren't for Messi winning the WC.

[@Holyspace305]

Haaland 100000% gonna win it if not because of what messi did in wc

[@elig2728]

Haaland was great for 9 months, Messi for 4 weeks. Only one clear winner

[@nibirchowdhury]

@@elig2728 i guess football writers watch only 4 weeks

[@ahmadchemkhi4240]

@@elig2728yeah 9 months but ghosted in every big match and final

[@Holyspace305]

@@elig2728 haaland was only better as a goalscorer wc and wc golden ball alone is bigger than anything haaland achieved last season

[@lomas2284]

Kdb reminds me a whole lot of Scholes, the pure heart soul and engine of a team but rarely was noticed, subtlety is a pure art form in football that unfortunately goes under the radar

[@marzism1]

Came back from holidays and caught up on some @TifoIRL videos. Glad i saw this video... JJ absolutely smashed this episode!

[@riichobamin7612]

Ballon D'or is like the Noble Peace Prize, given on perception more than reality.

[@Soccemaniac]

If I’ve interpreted you correctly, you’re implying reality must be meritocratic? That’s actually one of my favourite topics. Michael Sandel has a lot to say on meritocracy being a myth, I implore you to check that out. Reality exists within the bubble of perception, not the other way around imo. Let me know your thoughts

[@devilsolution9781]

Nah 100% agree, theres more interesting stuff going on.

[@mohdehtesham8357]

If Ballon Do'r was fair, Messi would have 10-12 of them.

[@richhornie7000]

​@@mohdehtesham8357yeah these awards (both Nobel Prize and Ballon D'Or) are heavily rigged against non Europeans but Messi is literally that good that he still managed to win 8

[@SKa-tt9nm]

@@richhornie7000rigged against non-Europeans? Prior to 1995, you are correct. But as soon as non-Europeans became eligible, they immediately won 4 out of the next 5 and 7 out of the next 13, prior to the onset of the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly in 2008. I see no evidence of bias there. Two continents have dominated world football and two continents have dominated ballon dor voting.

[@JackJenningsGuitarist]

I absolutely love the humour in these videos 😂. Please never change this, we love the silliness alongside the great analysis 👍

[@ZoGhost]

This is instantly one of the best videos on the internet and I need to rewatch it immediately

[@aadhilsheikf9174]

Exactly 💯 De bruyne was the most eligible candidate...he was the one driving for City's excellence over the years+ he served goals in plate for Haaland..more important to City than Haaland...His only issues were he was subbed in the champions league final and had a bad world cup

[@kevinrod14]

KDB has a Toni Kroos like role.. doing the hard work & making those insane passes.

[@jonathana6943]

KDB's role and Kroos' role are very different ones.

[@kevinrod14]

@@jonathana6943 not at all, but ok.

[@thesaint717]

@@kevinrod14not at all? What!

[@mumandubula1788]

De Bruyne is more of a Modric than a Kroos.

[@cheangizzz]

​@@kevinrod14you are dead wrong and i don't understand why would you argue about what you don't know no offense

[@louisromero2320]

Kane and Bellingham will be top next year. If they both win some trophies (likely), both score (already happening) and win the euro with england, it’ll be one of the two. Likely kane

[@kacperstoj4235]

Depends who's gonna win UCL but yeah I also see it as a chance for Kane

[@nelsonogbuigwe7500]

@@kacperstoj4235Kane has a bigger chance

[@SKa-tt9nm]

@@nelsonogbuigwe7500Kane has a bigger chance? Let’s ask Robert lewandowski about that.

[@nelsonogbuigwe7500]

@@SKa-tt9nm Bayern are more likely to win UCL than Madrid

[@nelsonogbuigwe7500]

Kane is probably England best player. Madrid Jude and England Jude aren’t the same. Jude isn’t giver the central role he is given in Madrid in England. Kane is still the main guy

[@DonLebanon69]

Love JJ. He’s my fav character on TIFO. Give him more creative freedom in your videos!!!

[@vaughnpears4731]

My favourite video this channel has ever made (and I watch them all) 😂😂 Good job, JJ ❤

[@israels4450]

I'd argue that last Rodri's last season was phenomenal too. He won it all, with City and Spain (Nations League) and he was incredible every match, leading the team along with Kevin. He was outstanding, and more crucial to the results than Halaand himself, I'd say (Rodri scored the winning goal against Inter whereas Halaand couldn't score neither in the semis or final missing many chances). I hate that some players are overlooked just bc they aren't too hyped by the media. Halaand and Mbapee have been hyped up for a couple of years now, when there are some players that are better and more influencial in the games than them, but sadly will never get the awards.

[@ggsinkon2834]

NOT BETTER THAN MESSI

[@FootballBamberger]

@@ggsinkon2834 Rodri deserved to win the 2023 Ballon d'Or.

[@kylewilliams2482]

Great editing, JJ is the best.

[@drempi3735]

Best video you've ever made (or at least, that I've watched) 😂😂 That ending was 10/10

[@eXtrem1s]

I clicked on this video with my keyboard armed as I thought you would disparage Messi. Left the video with increased admiration for JJ and KDB. The video was so passionately created ❤

[@Krato65]

What's missing from KDB is that he doesn't score goals often. I am not saying he needs to score like Haaland, but he should be atleast scoring a goal every 2 or 3 games for him to stay relevant and a couple of big goals in big tournaments really helps! As you said the problem is he's consistently good, that's why we overlook him. So in order to break that, he needs to be outstanding now and then for him to standout. Another reason he needs to stay fit and play all the games. Whenever we think of City losing the UCL final to chelsea we get the picture of KDB getting injured and crying. That image needs to change!

[@majormononoke8958]

I think the difference is Man city has the best coach and money investment into the right players, while only winning big time in England, but not so much in the champions league like Real madrid. On the other Side Belgium fails every tournament.

[@JustGoodGames.]

Real Madrid away UCL semi-final was an absolutely massive goal and, aside from Rodri's obviously, maybe the most important in City's UCL charge. PSG in his first season at City to take them to their first semi. PSG in 2021 to go to the UCL final. Put Brazil away in 2018 with a goal in the quarters. 2 against Arsenal to end their title charge last year. 2 absolutely cracking goals against Spurs and Chelsea from distance. He scores a goal in about every 4 games in his career. In 2022 he had 19 in 45. This is all ignoring he's the best passer in world football IMO and averages an assist every other game as well. Staying fit, okay, I think that's a fair argument.

[@yourdrugdealer5510]

No, sorry to break it for you but kdb is already scoring a lot for a midfield playmaker aside from creating chances and assisting he got all the requirements except for the world cup

[@brybry_]

Musiala is a Magician who does very spectacular things he’s probably also going to win it in the future

[@johnmcgrath200]

The Ronaldo/Tiny Tim reference made me burst out laughing, genuinely hilarious and caught me off guard.

[@nascimentoarantes]

Nice commentary. Ronaldo Nazario won in 97 for being a Barca player but had moved to Inter. Same as Luis Figo who moved from Barca to Madrid.

[@ethancostello5132]

It will be very hard to have better seasons than Alvarez or Haaland. I don't care what anyone says. I'd still vote for Messi. 😉

[@Pjj878]

Well better season doesn't mean better player, simple as that

[@hj3333]

Finally someone appreciates KDBs efforts

[@Tobias7192]

How the dickens did you manage to squeeze in a Muppet Christmas Carol reference? 01:27 Hats off, sir 😂

[@shreyansjain6850]

what a vid!!! brilliant from JJ as always.

[@timothytumusiime2903]

Tehehe 😅 Its funny how he gave literally heart stopping numbers for Messi and ends in a rant "pathetic, horrible"

[@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici]

It's called sarcasm

[@skinnyjeans1622]

​@@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVicithe dude literally said "it's funny." I think you're the one who doesn't get it

[@DJMorley18]

Just an example of those weirdo teenagers who claim he’s a fraud and a bottler

[@timothytumusiime2903]

@@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici 🤨 Oh pardon me 😔 I thought he was serious 😏

[@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici]

@@timothytumusiime2903 funny as pointing out of the obvious

[@RichMitch]

Joelinton!

[@tazp123]

Genuinely the best video that's been on this channel in my memory

[@kennethm.4998]

Superb delivery JJ. Superb. I didn't expect it to be as good based on the title at first.

[@thatjackrice2445]

I love this video please do more like this both really good points but also funny jokes too 😂😂😂

[@connor4435]

I know the end was meant to be a bit of a laugh but it really does feel like the journalists are voting for Messi just because this is his last chance rather than him actually being the best in the world

[@Buffaluffasaurus]

He’s absolutely dominated the biggest competition in football at the World Cup though. That has always (rightly or wrongly) counted for something… I mean, Modric won a Ballon D’or for his World Cup performance, and he wasn’t as good as Messi in this last one, nor did he win it. Messi really should’ve won that year based on his individual performances alone. So I have no problem with him winning this year. The man basically completed football whilst having more expectations on him than arguably any footballer going into a World Cup, and should rightly be recognised for it.

[@raya7052]

@@Buffaluffasaurus Modric didn’t win just because of his World Cup performance. He also won a champions league that year and another trophy I think

[@shehrozamar4644]

​@@raya7052The fact Messi was below Mbappe and Griezman in 2018, finishing 5th, shows the world cup was the main reason Modric won that year tho.

[@raya7052]

@@shehrozamar4644 if that were the case then why didn’t Mbappe or Griezmann (who won the World Cup in 2018 with France), win the Ballon D’or? And wasn’t second place Ronaldo? Who was on a Portugal side that didn’t get past the round of 16? If I remember correctly, the majority of media and fans were going around saying that Ronaldo should have won it in 2018 anyway. Truth is, this Ballon Dor criteria is all over the place. I like Messi, but we’re just voting for him because of a good four weeks and this will be his last Ballon Dor. It’s a send off vote. Any other year, Haaland wins it

[@Saeroye]

Loved this! 😂 ending was slick

[@ericbaptiste3108]

A great return to form for tifo reminiscent of the tifo podcast days.

[@adamkowalczyk3430]

In perfect life Rodri would win the Ballon D'or, he was fundamental in Man City side that won everything last season, he scored key goals in the Champions League like in the final and helped Spain win the Nations League. But of course, he's a CDM so people will not vote for him...

[@jonathana6943]

Same thing happened with Busquets. Don't remember him coming in the top 15 at all

[@theboss-by5gd]

ehhh nations league isnt really a calling point.Also lets not forget that Rodri wasnt exactly firing on all cylinders until it came to the business end of the season where he really did raise the bar.KDB was a much more consistent performer and so was Messi until PSG were out of the UCL ofc.I think it shud be between Messi and KDB.The others are only in this convo cause they performed pleasing to the eye to the public,Messi was consistent with PSG and Argentina,KDB with city and Belgium,just a shame they had Lukaku to miss everything in front of goal

[@garyanderton]

@@theboss-by5gdRodri always performs. He played almost every game, in the most physical league, in the most demanding role. Look at what happened to City the few games Rodri was missing now, or just how Pep lost his previous CL final where he was benched. Rodri is crucial, and the NL does in fact matter, cause the teams involved lined up their best teams.

[@yourdrugdealer5510]

@@theboss-by5gdwhen you said kdb is the more consistent one and the one that performs more... You lost it for me

[@md19974]

In my opinion, the Ballon d'Or should be given on the basis of overall performances in a season and not solely on the basis of goals and assists. Haaland scored the most amount of goals last season. But in terms of overall performance level, I'd place Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri ahead of him. Messi and Mbappe also put in exceptional performances last season. I'd argue that Mbappe was as great as Messi, if not better. But winning the world cup is a massive bonus for Messi.

[@BeamingBrute]

i think haaland deserves it, but so does messi.

[@Holyspace305]

Mbappe wasn't better than messi tf

[@Duddy8822]

@@BeamingBruteyeah it’s a 50/50. I hate it when people say that Messi “robbed” ballon dors just because the decision could’ve gone either way.

[@trollinape2697]

​@@Duddy8822if its purely by peformance and importance, KDB was probably the most important man in that city team. Rodri isnt very far off either, you cant forget the winning goal against inter for example. Hell, Kyle Walker was probably the best fullback in that treble winning season and may deserve top 15 or even top 10. Problem is that all of these players Ive mentioned didnt have a very good world cup campaign

[@Duddy8822]

@@trollinape2697 huh?

[@19_pisces_85]

What a fun episode the creativity on this is 10/10

[@ericyeung5296]

Well done! fun JJ video. The shirt is fantastic. One day you need to frame those shirts and have them in the back drop.

[@sweeney7]

There’s one player nobody talks about. He’s one everything, the World Cup, the FA Cup, the Premier League, and the Champions League. He is multi-positional, he scores flashy goals, and he is a creative genius. He is Julian Alvarez.

[@fotrj]

He wasn't a starter. If he was, he'd be the obvious winner.

[@alanaslukjanovicius3287]

​@@fotrjhis name isnt messi. He would have never won

[@fotrj]

@@alanaslukjanovicius3287 Gotta love Luka Messidric, Karim Messizema, Messiano Ronaldo 😜

[@alanaslukjanovicius3287]

@@fotrj use your head. Before the world cup all of the media only talked about Messi winning WC. Once that was done it made no difference if haaland would have scored 100 goals in a calendar year.

[@fotrj]

@@alanaslukjanovicius3287 Instead of conspiracies use your brain. Haaland ghosted in big games

[@jeewa7114]

Salah being the second most creative player behind de bruyne while scoring so many goals and breaking so many records is insane. Maybe when he retires he'll get the credit he deserves

[@Orca472]

Id say KDB is a favorite for the award next year, but his injury keeping hum out for half the season is going to hurt his chances. in my opinion, The trophy will be between whoever wins the euro or ucl next year, my main contenders for this are going to be Bellingham (could win both), Haaland (could win ucl), Mbappe (could win euro, and maybe ucl but its incredibly unlikely), and Kane (could win both).

[@PhantomRaspberryBlower]

One of the best TIFOs ever.....meaning it will be doomed to be ignored and only to be spoken about in reverent respect in quiet rooms and pubs with people stranded at in the more random arms of a good conversation

[@tomerrozenberg1549]

JJB deserves an award for this video

[@meedek2538]

Well Sneijder won everything in 2010 and carried his nation to a World Cup final. Didn't matter. Ribery, Robben? The latter didn't even win the player of the tournament in 2014. There seems to be a bias towards Messi. Of course he's arguably the best ever...but Xavi and Iniesta had a big part in that (and neither of them won it either).

[@JP-je6jg]

Totally agree. City win a treble and dont seem to get a look in. What about world cup winning players in 2018 and 2014. It's so skewed towards Messi.

[@00dude3]

La Liga bias in awards is massive Same with the Golden boy award. They basically give it to a Real Madrid or Barca player and work backwards as the reason for it. Van Dijk should have won over Messi

[@BeerLicious]

The thing is they were not near to Messi in any terms throughout the tournament. iniesta,xavi & sniejder didn't score most goals, assists, chances created for their teams all at once. it's totally different. De bryune was totally non existent there & one can say he didn't evn play. Arguments can always be made, even Nedved won fairly when u see it.

[@meedek2538]

@@BeerLicious Iniesta wasn't near Messi? My friend, Iniesta won the 2010 World Cup and even scored the winning goal. Of course a midfielder doesn't put out the same numbers as a striker.

[@BeerLicious]

@@meedek2538 Winning Goal alone doesn't Make you win the World Cup, it's the tournament untill the moment. iniesta or none of the Spanish players carried the whole team, it was a team work carried by the whole team. Messi showed in each Match & with most impact. It's an individual impact. And one more thing Messi being the Striker only Assisted more, created more, dribbled more, won more fouls during the the voting duration.

[@MasterMind-xr2qr]

Love the ending😂😂. tifo were like please ignore this guy

[@claudiafogl941]

Thank you for mentioning the giant conspiracy against goalies and defenders

[@daddywax254]

Need more Joe videos.

[@ModernFootball866]

Messi should have won the Ballon d'or in 2016 and 2018 if it would only be based on individual performance and he should already have more than 7 Ballon d'Ors if the Ballon d'or would only be based on individual performance

[@DJMorley18]

I agree with this, the problem is the criteria changes every year. If it was for ‘the best player performances’ regardless of their team performances then Messi would be on about ten or eleven tbh. Only years I can pick out where he wasn’t were probably 2013 (got injured for a large chunk), 2014 was not great, 2017 I honestly believe Neymar was probably more influential and Cristiano had a great year, 2020 was underwhelming then year moved to PSG struggled. Every other year from 2009 he probably deserved it.

[@PeterEhik]

He should have like 10 if it’s about who the best player is. He would’ve won every year from 2009 - 2019, except for that one year he had a lot of injuries, I think 2013 or 2014. The year Bayern destroyed Barca 7-0 on aggregate.

[@ridakesserwan8712]

the ending was class😂😂

[@curtiscrentsil2836]

That sarcastic part of the video about Messi ,should be turned to a short 😂😂😂

[@colej3360]

Messi played the best football as he always does. No debate.

[@kafka27]

Exactley

[@jamesmichaels4979]

He plays the MLS and his season at PSG wasn't better than Haarlands treble

[@EvieWillNotDie]

​@@jamesmichaels4979doesn't matter and not how it works. It takes into account the previous season, not the current year.

[@subboid]

@@mikeirvine1734 yeah but Messi got a free penalty in every WC game so he's clearly the best

[@DJMorley18]

@@subboidShould tell the other team to stop fouling his players in the box I guess. Might make it harder.

[@TheofficialGodofwar]

Imagine after all this Rodri wins it 😂😂😂

[@yourdrugdealer5510]

I mean on the pitch he’s been the best player in city, kdb was not always there he got injured and missed about 20 games the previous season, also in the games that he bagged a goal\s contributions he’s performance was not as good as like 3/4 players on the same game in man city

[@cradlelist]

😂the amount of sarcasm in this video❤

[@njabulombuyazi5132]

The Ending was brilliant🤣🤣😂😂

[@1x._theunderdawg956]

Shocking not to see alvares....lust shows how truly underated he is, hes won every major competion at 21

[@deeznoots6241]

If you mean Alvarez then that would be a stupid choice, he’s not even first choice at man city so how could he be the best player in the world? Just happening to be a squad player in the right teams shouldn’t win you a ballon d’or

[@bluemoon1716]

@@deeznoots6241 not first choice? It's ok to admit you haven't watched city play

[@gemelek4346]

I love Messi very very much and he is still one of the best players in the world BUT i think it would be unfair for Haaland not to win it.

[@naturelover4148]

Golden boot is for Haaland. Ballon D'Or is for best players. The only real competition for Messi was from Mbappe but he couldn't win the WC. So you know

[@ElBetoRambo]

Messi scored a brace in the WC final. Haaland didn’t score from the UCL quarterfinals on. It’s not only about quantity.

[@thabisomagagula5069]

Don't confuse goal scorers with great players...

[@louisromero2320]

I’d be in agreement if Haaland didnt disappear in literally every big game.

[@samkkx]

​@@ElBetoRamboHaaland scored 2 goals in 2 legs against Bayern in the QF

[@somethingcleverhere]

That Jon McKenzie shirt reveal--perfection!

[@bidhektiwari6786]

best JJ video till date. JJ-ness was off the charts

[@DenDave_]

Casually ignoring that Haaland broke all the English versions of the records that were previously used as arguments to why Lewandowski was robbed.

[@richhornie7000]

Maybe if he scores 91 goals in a calender year or something it wouldn't be ignored cuz it's a global record as opposed to English records

[@DenDave_]

@@richhornie7000 91 goals yea? Are you saying Messi won the Ballon d'or for his goalscoring record 11 years ago? 😂 The Balloj d'or is about individual achievement. Messi won a world cup, and a dodgy one at that, but at club level he's been utterly below par.

[@richhornie7000]

@@DenDave_ he literally has better goal contribution per match than Haaland, way more dribbles, key passes, MOTM. Why anyone could even think this is robbery. He doesn't ghost and suddenly won World Cup you know. He contributes and a lot of that too. Don't forget Haaland ghosted in the finals he was in while Messi scored 2 in the most important final in football.

[@Model_Roe]

It's been confirmed by numerous reputable sources Messi will get the Ballon Dor this year and in my opinion well deserved people can say whatever they want but based on individual performance Messi was the best Haaland scored more goals but was missing in important matches not to mention he's proven he's very co dependent on KDB and without him feeding him goals is useless my opinion but congratulations 🎉 Messi 🥰

[@Yoseph-tr5bx]

Because the ballon d'or isn't primarily for player with the most goals and assists although Messi had the 2nd highest G/A in Europe last seasaon, in fact the award is for the best player who shined the most during big tournaments, it always has been, remember R9 winning it in 2002 while barely even playing football? He won it because of the WC and people didn't flinch when he was awarded, it was natural, if it was based on G/A Messi would've had 10 already, if it was based on who is the best player purely from an eye test perspective (the way it was before stats became the most important thing) Messi would've had more than 10, the only way you can argue for Haalnd are goals and consistency but everything else points to Messi.@@ariongovender6049

[@todd1928]

​@@ariongovender6049far better? I don't think Mbappe was much better at PSG then Messi was.

[@todd1928]

@@ariongovender6049 yeah, he really wasn't. Messi was vital to PSG's creative buildup last year.

[@darthmaul408]

JJ… Top notch work sir. Tifo has been missing some pure randomness.

[@wwatse]

This explains how the balon do is just a big pr award and doesn't actually represent who the best players are

[@afellownerd]

As a united fan, it's gotta be haaland. First season in the pl and he was utterly unreal,

[@Truffle_Pup]

yeah, I'm a United fan n all, and I'd give it to that Cyborg Goal Monster as well.

[@gabrielokenwa6196]

Mask on: Hey, I’m a United fan… Mask off: Hey, I’m a Ronaldo fan…

[@afellownerd]

@@gabrielokenwa6196 ah yes. Different opinion = biased

[@amacuro]

world cup > premier league

[@afellownerd]

@@amacuro 12 months of football >>> 1 month of football

[@roronoalaw7772]

Th annoying thing for me is that if the roles were switched and Messi won the treble, no way would Haaland win the Ballon d’or even if he won the WC for Norway. It’s all agenda.

[@nektarioss]

That's going to be a Tifo IRL classic.

[@teev660]

Hey what do you guys use for the tactic/pitch app? I've been searching for it but can't find it!

[@DailyWord3832]

Messi, that it. The world cup winner gets more highlighted that champions League winner

[@EvieWillNotDie]

People need to understand that the ballon d'or isn't focused solely on who was the best player that year and it hasn't been that way for a long time now. Messi will get it because that's how it works.

[@tianruixiao9239]

Watching JJ is like watching a ballon dor winner at work

[@alfredyeap]

ANTONY, with that turning-go-nowhere skill! HAHAHA!

[@abrahamsneo7783]

What else does Haaland has to do. This will be grossly unfair

[@langletprolet8378]

Don't ghost in the big games.

[@phiwashongwe2692]

Qualify for the WC, Win the WC or any other major international competitions, Become decisive in big games.

[@aakarmamtora3470]

Not play for "115 charges" city

[@fynn82]

Without Haaland city would've been favourites in all competitions. He joined the best team in the World. He did the same numbers in dortmund and no one said he deserved a Ballon d'or with dortmund. So stop crying, Haalands time will come.

[@amacuro]

He needs to win a World Cup and also needs to score in the last few stages on the Champions League. He kind of disappeared from the CL last season towards the end.

[@ninomiskulin9286]

Im a Liverpool fan, but Haaland should win it no doubt. Look at all his achievements. Messi scored 5 penalties in world cup that was rigged for him and will still win it. Disgrace

[@makisan2596]

Someone's crying

[@dibyaranjanmishra4272]

Cry more

[@ethanlewis888]

Stop crying, u still have to save some tears for when he wins it on Monday

[@naturelover4148]

Damn I see a river there!

[@ninomiskulin9286]

All these replys from city haters because they destroyed your club last season

[@anguspauley7835]

Hard cut at the end was so good

[@hasanramzan6578]

Could you make a video on Ipswich,Leicester, and Southampton tactics this season?

[@tdh2044]

I love all the presenters on this channel but JJ is extremely entertaining and brings a very good vibe.

[@felipenachmanowicz9393]

Nice Chaotic energy in that one

[@ecashman]

one of the funniest tifo vids, instant classic

[@gaborpete]

This is how serious analysis meets comedy. If I am down in my life, I think of JJ.