Who's Played Their Last Game For The Maple Leafs? w/ Steve Dangle | CJ Show

Steve Dangle and Chris Johnston play a game of Staying or Going where they discuss every Toronto Maple Leafs player and whether or not CJ thinks that player will still be on the roster next season. Is this the last we've seen of both Marner and Tavares? Will Domi and/or Bertuzzi be back?
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[@mrswb]

After last year, I won't believe any trade rumors until both Teams announce it. I honestly don't think major moves are coming.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

And that is a good thing.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Two reasons why: 1. No establised players wants to play in Toronto (O Reilly & Schenn) 2. No trade partners (no one wants the Tavares and Marner contracts)

[@johnsummerhill8323]

@@Tiglath-PileserXIX Go back to your Habs

[@daveallen9921]

I agree. And I hope not. I found the reason for the curse. It's the heartless fans.

[@owenritzie1779]

@@Tiglath-PileserXIX tavares maybe but many teams would love having marner, regardless of past playoff performance a 90 pt in the bank player that needs a change of scenery gms would love that and i dont think whatever team gets marner next signs him for less than what he gets now considering recent comparable contracts

[@Phantus00]

CJ saying nobody is going to have a problem with JT's contract or where he's at from a game play perspective? That's a wild statement. He's a 65 point, 11 million player who's in decline. Literally every team in the league will have a problem with that including the Leafs which is why we're discussing this in the first place.

[@Ghost-ir7yl]

Averaged 78 points per season as a leaf. Still not worth anywhere near 11m but just wanted to point out what he’s given us since being here

[@Alexdenomme]

Both Mitch and tavares only count against the cap for that much. They will only be owed under a million. It's a sweet deal if you want the player, have the extra cap space because you've got a younger roster and are expecting the extra room for the following season. But cap won't be the reason they don't get traded. The leafs will have paid them 90% out by the time a trade happens. It comes down to whether Berube thinks he can put get him playing with heart. Remember this is a guy that had none of these assets and a dead last at christmas team. Yet has a cup with them. He's gonna come in and give the benefit of the doubt that it's a coaching failure. Then he's going to evaluate based on whether he can make bubble boy Mitch our every game Mitch. That one drove the net and forced goals because he decided he wanted them. Tavares is older but Marner has shown he has that killer instinct. But it's only been in rare circumstances. Berube will try to get us that Mitch. If not he's gone before the trade deadline.

[@disinformationworld9378]

Name a FA center better than Tavares in off season.

[@Jorts-W-Bush]

Listening is hard

[@gregc8483]

He said for a lower cap hit, nobody would mind his performance

[@user13342]

Cj needs a ring light lol

[@dickbiggerjr3613]

Not every podcast needs to look the same. He's fine.

[@tychuk5802]

Staying or going with CJ is the best! Love it!

[@tomholder-fn2kz]

CJ is channeling Red Green. Has anyone ever seen them in the same room at the same time?

[@late3619]

I wish it would be that defensive pylon Rielly. 11yrs in the league and he hasn't developed a slapshot or one-timer. He can't clear the front of the net, doesn't hit, doesn't standup at the blueline, can't PK, low d-zone IQ and is below average at winning puck battles. Since his 20 goal fluke season he has averaged under 8 goals a year. What he does well is pass the puck to star forwards and pickup lots of assists. You could get a d-man at 4.5M to do the same thing.

[@mikesmith6543]

Totally agree with your points about Reilly. Maybe I'm old school but the leafs could do with a defenceman who has a hard shot from the point. Then load up the front of the net.

[@late3619]

@@mikesmith6543 That's what wins playoff hockey. Specially on the PP when your playing the top PK teams in the playoffs. Passing around the perimeter with ZERO threat from the point man is just to easy to defend.

[@mikesmith6543]

@@late3619Yes the leafs clearly lack a defenseman or two who can do this. Going around and around and not charging the net isn't putting the puck in there net. Seems to me we need goals not the perfect play

[@user-yh7zv2ep4p]

Who has no trade clause on Leafs? Five players (Marner, Tavares, Rielly, Auston Matthews, William Nylander) have no-movement clauses. Another three (Calle Jarnkrok, David Kampf and Jake McCabe) have modified no-trade

[@TheIslandDivision]

Priorities in Toronto: Hometown boys over Stanley Cups. 😂

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

You got that right: Ron Francis (Sault Sainte Marie), Eric Lindros (London), O'Dog (Richmond Hill), Jason Allison (North York), Joe Thornton (London), Wendell Clarkson (Etobicoke), Cujo (Richmond Hill ....

[@jamief.9944]

Cuz no one else wants to deal with the media or taxes.

[@craigharrison5406]

@@Tiglath-PileserXIX You do realize there is a ton of NHL players from the Toronto area currently in the league right? I would bet money it's the top source of players from any city in the league. It's inevitable that some would make it to the Leafs. They have just as many players from Vancouver on the team currently.

[@c_telking4433]

“Home town boys” from Toronto are 80% of the Oilers roster 😂 L take

[@CaleMakar-yr9ol]

Leafs need a gm that’s willing to make moves for team to win

[@markgriffiths2698]

Awesome

[@jeffsframe9927]

Oh soooooo many we hope

[@jrgabriel4015]

If there is a trade worked out for Marner, .. with a 2024 first draft pick ( ie 8th OA - Seattle ) involved. Would that team pick the player the leafs wanted ( Seattle ) then include in the trade after July 1st ( Bonus Paid ) ?

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Marner won't be traded.

[@Alexdenomme]

Knies has future Captain written all over him.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

That's what Brian Burke said about .... Luke Schenn. How did that work out?

[@rodchallis8031]

@@Tiglath-PileserXIX Guffaw! Your powers of reasoning are astounding.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

@@rodchallis8031 I will take the sarcasm any day, but you know I'm right.

[@johntapscott4528]

I agree about Knies. Brian Burke couldn’t evaluate players properly. He was arguably the worst GM in Leafs’ history. Set the Leafs back a decade with the incredibly stupid Kessel deal.

[@rodchallis8031]

@@Tiglath-PileserXIX I have it on excellent authority that you know you are wrong.

[@forgottenfamily]

Honestly, trading Tavares because of the 11M is short sighted. I'm not saying you don't trade Tavares, but it shouldn't be because of 11M. It's one year. Ask yourself whether you want Tavares on his next contract. If you don't think he fits into Toronto's long term plans, that's fair. But if it's just the 11M, it's short sighted. Marner is a problem because they can't afford his extension. Everyone knows that. Marner should be moved.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Marner is staying. Come October the Leafs will ice the same line up. Marner will then score 100 points during the regular season ... and as usual disappear in the playoffs. By then Leafs Nation will be so fed up with him, the MLSE will literally give him up for free, a la Mats Sundin.

[@user-lg1rd7jb5m]

​@@Tiglath-PileserXIXAustin mathews 55 playoff games 48 points, nylander 54 playoff games 43 points, marner 57 playoff games 50 points, tavares 38 playoff games as a leaf, 24 points. Rielly 57 playoff games, 40 points. Soooo why is marner the vanishing scapegoat???

[@100Thebobchannel]

​@user-lg1rd7jb5m this season Marner got a point in a 4-2 and a 3-1 loss. His only other point was a secondary assists in a 2-1 win. Matthews had more points in less games while being sick. It's just not the overall points but thr quality of points.

[@jgorms4054]

Buy out Tavares

[@forgottenfamily]

@@jgorms4054 He's buyout proof. His cap hit post-buyout would be 10.4M - practically zero cap savings. The math for buying out the last year is to take his non-bonus salary, and you can save 2/3 of it wrt the cap hit. Steve's been highlighting how his salary is only 1M next season. It's actually 910K. They can save 2/3 of that.... which is just over 600K. That's it.

[@MrMrneil1]

the only one I disagree with of the 30?, is Noah Gregor, 25 years old, 6'0 and 190 lbs, led TOR in hits in the (2 games) playoffs, super fast, wing or center, two-way, high hockey sense, good hands, super cheap, RFA, vs. other teams might actually take RFA Dewar in a trade (just as TOR did). Also, you have no right-shot D men (if you delete Lllly and Luby). Also we hire you to sell Robertson in a trade, maybe move up in the draft.

[@sempcast]

Edmundson is a nasty player (in a good way) I'd love to see this guy back with the Leafs, don't forget the St. Louis connection in Berube as well.

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

Somedays i wish i was Oilers fan.. they my 2

[@bradleyvision7315]

no one is touching marner until teams see what guentzel gets in his new contract, same player only guentzel scores in the playoffs so marner shouldnt get what he does

[@daveallen9921]

Guentzel has 67 points in 69 games. Marner has 50 points in 57 games. whats the diff? Auston is not Sidney. Yet.

[@owenritzie1779]

marner is better than guentzel in both offensive and defensive metrics a selke level winger and guentzel arnt the "same player"

[@bestbyfar1118]

No trade no move clause Mitch is going no where. Leafs get nothing and he leaves next year on his terms

[@Trumpsterfire101]

@@daveallen9921Yet? He never will be nor will he be in TO when the year ends. He will be begging for an out. He is done with the humiliation and the winters. Soft little baby wants to be in murikkka.

[@Trumpsterfire101]

@@owenritzie1779nope

[@Michael-pg7rv]

I am okay with Tavares staying for the final year of his contract and then hopefully signing a very friendly team deal. I think the Leafs need to move on Marner. Free up that cap space this season and then whatever Leafs save on JT next year. With that cap space you can get a top goalie, a top defenseman and multiple depth pieces at the least.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Marner Ian 't going anywhere. Matthews would be an easier trade to make as he is American and he has a contract going forward.

[@Michael-pg7rv]

@@johnsummerhill8323 Leafs would never trade Matthews.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

@@Michael-pg7rv Don't kid yourself. They played well without him in the lineup and they would get a lot back. A UFA like Marner is not going to get too much back just because of the contract status. All that said, I don't think any of the top players will get traded. Marner will sign an extension. Tavares is a much trickier situation due to his age. I think he will become a UFA but could then sign a new, 2 or 3 year deal with the Leafs at a reduced salary.

[@topperharley7892]

Everyone has to buy into the coaches system

[@tonykung8756]

Well, Marner basically chooses where he's going, and the team that trades for him need to have $13+mil to keep him for 7-8yrs. With JT he's an $11mil cap hit and he's 34 at the start of the next season, so who's going to trade for him...? What's for certain is that if you trade these two off, you won't get full value for him because the Leafs are sellers...

[@ChrisTempleMusic]

Marner will not get paid double digits by any team in the NHL when he becomes a free agent!

[@owenritzie1779]

your delusional if you truly believe that

[@ChrisTempleMusic]

@@owenritzie1779 other way around

[@blairsteele4972]

Agree totally, getting him to move the no trade is one thing, but I agree there is no team that I see is gonna pay him 10, mill, let alone 12 mill , his best bet is a no tax state for less dollars but higher take home pay, but the f×÷ktard, that he is , I can't see him seeing it that way...here's what you do, you tell him right straight up, " were not resigning you" period. Make his life miserable, hopefully the fans make his life miserable, and the first time he tries his dipsy doodle BS, that backfires and causes a goal, off to the press box you go .....

[@charlestessier7843]

I'm a Habs fan but I felt that the Leafs were a FAR more confident team with Woll between the pipes in the 2 games he played during the playoff series against Boston. They'd be nuts to let him go.

[@user-ev8tv1qe1z]

MITCH MADE JOHN LOOK GREAT , BETTER THEN HE ACTUALLY IS. HOW MANY CUP RINGS DOES JOHN THEVIRUS HAVE?!

[@Trumpsterfire101]

How many cups have the laffs had in you whole life?

[@Ruddskies]

Did I miss Robertson?

[@agoquintal]

That would be thousands of player and counting..

[@Unterwelten]

Out in 1st round again? Going CJ billion!

[@derps8690]

want to bet your life? i can set up the contract to make that happen

[@sals79]

Tavares was such a mistake. His contract was why none of our young stars took a discount. Our next huge mistake was naming his robotic ass the captain. If he's not going anywhere, we can at least take the C off of him.

[@daveallen9921]

You sir are a typical Leafs fan. Leafs fans are heartless.

[@Trumpsterfire101]

He did not come for the money, he came for the longer summer vacations.

[@castleview3321]

I don't get the Marner hate - they would have beaten Boston if the powerplay had been even average. They were missing Matthews and Nylander for several games each, and goaltending was inconsistent/injured versus the guy who was arguably the best in the league at the other end. Tavares is the main issue as he has become overpriced for what he brings - perhaps they could renegotiate his final year , and stretch it into a 3-4 year extension at a lesser amount.

[@ericmills9839]

I think it's that he hasn't provided the full value of his contract in the eyes of fans. At the outset of his current deal, he was one of the highest paid players in the league by far. He's 7th in scoring over the term of his deal and it's fair to think that's not quite enough. He's less than a point a game in the playoffs. If you think of yourself as one of the best of the best, you need to do better in the eyes of many fans. I think it's really hard to argue that he's been worth just shy of AM34 over the term of this deal.

[@fractaljack210]

As a Bruins fan, Tavares would go before Manner every, single time. He's slow, and getting slower. Hard work and bleeding blue won't get you anywhere. You need young, hungry talent. You should gave beaten us this year. When I start feeling sympathy for the Leafs, you've hit a new low.

[@Firearcher4]

I AGREE and give you a thousand thumbs up. I love Marner and want him in Toronto. Boston won in 7 games because the Leafs had injuries to 4 key players: Marner, Matthews, Woll and Nylander. Boston was healthy and they had Swayman. That was the difference. Leafs would have lost to Florida regardles. The Panthers are maybe the best team in the league. If not, close to it. (FYI I loathe the Panthers.)

[@isaacfernandes560]

Easy to explain. He has a cap hit of 11M and plays like a 5M. On top of that he said he wants a raise.

[@fractaljack210]

@@isaacfernandes560 No, Marner is a 100 point guy, a top 20 player, and a top 5 right winger. See what happens to your record without those points,. Those types of player are worth their weight in gold. All the other 31 teams will line up to get him, and give him an eight year contract. You will never get value for him. Dismiss him like Larry Murphy at your own peril. Leaf fans are so delusional.

[@ChaiBronz]

I wouldn't assume Mitch wants an 8 year deal. These guys like to go with less term to new up for more dough quicker.

[@biffstrong1079]

Now I just Heard a Seth Jones for Mitch Marner trade rumour. Though do the Leafs want a 29 year old defenseman at $9.5 million for six more years? Two flawed players, one locked up, one for a year. Marner may make $8.5 million on his next contract. Max does feel like he's part of the fabric of their team. Yes that's true and that's the problem.

[@kilog9142]

Mitch marner is staying

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Of course Marner is staying. Come October the Leafs will ice the same line up. Marner will then score 100 points during the regular season ... and as usual disappear in the playoffs. By then Leafs Nation will be so fed up with him, the MLSE will literally give him up for free, a la Mats Sundin.

[@kilog9142]

@Tiglath-PileserXIX they should get rid nylander,Gio and few others to make cap space

[@fractaljack210]

So, aside from Marner and some chaff, you’re essentially standing pat….

[@jgorms4054]

Remember when the Wild bought out Parise and Suter in the same summer? Why cant the Leafs buy out Tavares??

[@GeoffDodds]

Manner gets a lot of assists . Will Nylander and Mathews get same amount of goals with Marner gone ?

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Matthews for sure would drop to about 40 goals.

[@mitchellhedden1978]

Tavares could have been a nice fit on Boston this season.

[@Leafsdude]

I don't think JT or Marner are necessarily gone, even for 2025-26, but Treliving is going to definitely play hardball with both. To whit: Marner, you get 9M. You've made 60M+ over the last 6 years, you'll never want for anything financially for the rest of your life, but we'll still give you around market value (there's no doubt 9M-10M is market value for someone who skirts around 30 goals and 100 points a year as a winger). You want to play it here, you constantly tell us there's nowhere else you care to play. Then take the hit for the team. Marner's only leverage against that, IMO, is the problem if the Leafs lose him for nothing, like they have for so many players over the last half-decade plus. Tavares, if you want to stay, you need to take half. 5.5M for 3 years or less. All the same clauses, but that's it, take it or leave it. You wanted to be here, you still want to be here, that's what you'll take. Otherwise, go play somewhere else, we can do better with two players at 5.5M than him at more. Between age, slowing production and lack of playoff production, he's got no leverage against that. If neither takes, you invest that money in better depth players, especially on the blueline, and try and find a better cohesion around Matthews. IMO, the biggest mistake was signing Nylander when they did. Not only did they sign him at his absolute peak value, but everything at this point for the Leafs is about the playoffs, and there's no doubt he doesn't have the leverage today to demand 11.5M anymore after that playoff performance. If he's still unsigned today, he's probably the guy that's going, and they might be throwing the 11.5 at Marner. And as good as Nylander's season was, Marner has the better body of work and therefore should be able to demand more.

[@owenritzie1779]

if you think 9-10 mill would be his market value look at panarin 11.6 mill marner would at least match it as he puts up similar numbers but is a selke calibre forward , people dont look before trying to say marner isnt worth his pay, he will only get more after this season if he doesnt i would be shocked and he wouldve had to take a pay cut to stack up a team like colorado or edmonton

[@owenritzie1779]

and as for the body of work between nylander and marner if its just the playoffs nylander is the better producer if its just points marner has more but nylander has double his goals and if you look at only games 5,6,7 (elimination games) onl;y 9 of marners 50 points have been scored in those games the laeast of the core four. i do agree the leafs shouldve just resigned nylander for the 10 he was asking for last offseason but they let him bet on himself and lost but they commited now

[@Leafsdude]

@@owenritzie1779 Perhaps it's what you mean at the end, but Panarin's contract was in a completely different atmosphere where 75% of the league didn't have under 2M in cap space. That said, maybe the offer is fine if it's 10M. He's probably a good bit better than Barzal (9.15M) but he's not as good as Pettersson (11.6M). Probably somewhere smack in the middle there works. He needs to give a hometown discount, though. We can't be spending more than $35M on 3 players anymore. As with Tavares, the Leafs would be better with Nylander, Matthews and two guys making ~5.75M than they would with Marner making 11.5M.

[@owenritzie1779]

@@Leafsdude I’m just saying there is no way he’ll stay for that when if he hits free agency he will get a contract at MINIMUM matching the current contract

[@Leafsdude]

@@owenritzie1779 If that's the case, then goodbye and good riddance, is what I'm saying. And, as fans, I think we need to question his motivation as far as his "I love playing for the Leafs" shtick from the past decade. Would make it look more like "I like making money with the Leafs - but I'll love making money more playing elsewhere". And yeah, it's a business, blah, blah, blah, but someone with the record of Marner doesn't get that same benefit of that reality as some other players do.

[@jefffreese947]

I'm sure that personally the players don't begrudge JT his salary. Professionally though, when JT is overpaid and that keeps the organization from getting the help you need it's got to be frustrating.

[@ChaiBronz]

If JT decides to stay put, do they let him keep the C?

[@cdbbroadfield6154]

Marner isn’t going anywhere that’s a given Craig like’s Marner He said this on a podcast I watched.

[@jamief.9944]

I’m actually okay with that.

[@dt8460]

Off course he said that He had too

[@ImGoingMad666]

There is only one untouchable. Auston Matthews

[@baylaust]

I think Tavarez stays. Yeah, 11 million and all that, but think beyond the money for a second. He's in the last year of his contract, and it's already established that he already took a cut so that he could play with Toronto. He's also in the latter half of his career now, his value is going down, that's just a fact. But he DOES still provide good value on the 2nd or even 3rd line. Tavarez can be extended at a team-friendly deal that reflects his current value, and open up more room for the Leafs while keeping a talent in place. That's why Marner makes the most sense to move. His contract is in the same spot, but unlike Tavarez, Marner isn't gonna be looking for a team-friendly pay cut. No, youll never get an equal value out of trading Marner, but that extra 10+ million in cap space alongside any players or draft picks (which the Leafs desperately need)? That's not nothing.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Marner will do what Nylander did. Play the year and sign an extension part way through or walk at the end of the season. There is no good reason as to why he would waive his no trade clause.

[@sempcast]

Does Mr. Agent want a commission on $70 million ($10x7 open market), or $100 million ($12.5x8 sign-n-trade)? 🤔

[@ricklatour2794]

how did the Leafs lose - they sound like the greatest team ever

[@oldhab7890]

Maybe Berube was hired to coach Marner. Maybe Shanahan believes Marner can be motivated to be a good playoff player.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

In the almost 100 year history of the Leafs, Marner is the 12th leading playoff point scorer.

[@VladSharangovich]

@@johnsummerhill8323what is it with you people sounding like a broken record talking about Marners playoff points???? Who cares about his points in the playoffs. You have to look at all other facets of his game. He’s soft, avoids going into corners, avoids forechecking, avoids backchecking, turns over the puck and makes bone headed plays all the time.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

@@VladSharangovich You watch an entirely different game than I do. I see the guy that has been their most important player on the team in the last 7 years.

[@derps8690]

@@johnsummerhill8323 you can keep talking about how marner leads the current team in playoff points, because it's true. you can *also* talk about the playoff series where he was a complete non-factor, like this year. he has 50 pts in 57 playoff games. he got 14 of those points in the 2023 playoffs, 11 of which were in the tampa series and over half of those being in games 1 and 2. this year, he had 3 points in 7. 2022 he had 8 in 7... big production, right? wrong... 5 of those points were in game 1 and 2. 2021 he had 4 in 7 (2 were in 1 game) 2020 he had 4 in 5 (3 were in 1 game) 2019 he had 4 in 7 (2 were in 1 game) i don't want to hear anymore about marner being a top playoff performer, because he hasn't been as of late. stop repeating like a broken record and start looking at context.

[@dt8460]

Marner is a chicken scared to get hit Useless in the playoffs

[@sempcast]

Martin Jones stays, unless they trade for a another goalie like Saros, Markstrom. Sammy is gone and Woll is glass/not brick lately. Joner saved the team this year, deserves a backup salary $1.5-1.75 mil.

[@oharayoung4992]

Julian is lookin alittle pale today 🧐

[@johndesousa7379]

Tavares and Marner will play the full season. They will not wave their No Move Clause. Tavares will sign for a lot less when his contract is done and Marner will walk because he would never accept the same or less money. In his mind he thinks he is every bit as good as Nylander and Mathews. Treliving will not re-sign him. My prediction for Goalie signings is Brossoit Laurent for 2 million, Keep Woll and sign Matt Murray as the 3rd string for $900k.

[@jeffsframe9927]

Marner would be smart to get off the TML and go to a cup contender while he’s in his prime. Look how many ex Leafs have done well and won the Cup after leaving Toronto. Many. MANY. They are all fools to stay in TO. Mathew’s included.

[@johndesousa7379]

@@jeffsframe9927 You're correct but the Leafs have to reduce the Top 4 salary by half or they can't have a good team behind them. Too top heavy. Of the 4 of them Tavares and Marner are the most over paid for the production they put out. Time for the Leafs to let him go.

[@user-tm2jk9ym4w]

If they trade Mitch Marner then after 53 years i will follow Mitch Marner, when our leaf fan's act they way they do and booed our club its embarrassing enough but trade our home born away then i will follow Marner its time

[@mitchelldalton7405]

Extend JT 5.5m for 4years, would be a beast of a 3rd liner.

[@tobagocat]

So your going to let Edmonston go and keep Klinberg...lolol😂Thats why their the Leafs 😅

[@user-mi5ws7sf3u]

Marner for Kadri.

[@mikenyman5554]

I really wish people would stop acting like Marner is the problem. We DO this in Toronto... pick a whipping boy and download all our frustrations on him. Sundin. Kristich. Reimer. Larry Murphy. I mean... Marner's the problem? Really? Regular season: PPG at a 100 point/season pace. Routinely adds 30 goals/season. Defensively responsible (Selke finalist), offensively elite (record setter). Plays power play (it died when he got injured) AND the penalty kill (like that isn't a waste of his talent), and performs whatever role is asked of him. When someone's in a slump, 'play them with Marne', and that'll get them going' (makes players around him better, and that includes Austin and JT). He even hits! No, he doesn't annihilate people (he's simply not big enough), but it you watch how many times he hits intelligently to recover the puck, you wouldn't be calling him soft. Oh yeah... and he's an elite puck retriever. 'But he doesn't achieve in the playoffs!' Are you kidding me? He's the 12th highest Leaf producer ALL TIME in the playoffs! Ahead of both Austin and Willie! And he's usually tapped to shut down the other team's offensive best AND play the penalty kill. People THEN wonder why he's not scoring as often. Imagine it it was HIM coming in on the line that followed up a successful penalty kill, instead of Austin, Willie or JT. Think his production might have been higher? We'll never know. Part of his problem is that he wears his heart on his sleeve, and that's how he gets vilified. He clearly wasn't happy this year, and he committed the cardinal sin of letting his unhappiness show across his face. In other words, he CARED! Because of it, all he's remembered for is the defeated looks of despair when things went bad. He never gave up, but he still got the rap for it, blamed because he didn't catch a streaking Pasternak - in full flight - the second he stepped on the ice. He's earning too much! That must be HIS fault. Why didn't he do MORE? Do BETTER? Solve all our problems? Forget that he was coming back from an injury, where he lost his spot to Max Domi. Yeah, because Max Domi is a better player, right? Nothing against Max, but he can't do HALF the things Marner can. And even then, Marner accepted the demotion because (as Steve described it) it spread out the offensive wealth. Hmm. What was the definition of team player again? And now? We can't get him out of town fast enough. We're posting stupid trades that are geared to just clearing his cap, as if that money could be better spent on a superior player. Because, you know, once we have cap space, we'll just GET a better player than Marner. Like...? Yeah, because superstars (let alone superstar defencemen) just grow on trees. If Marner were playing for any other team, people would be salivating to get him. He's a special player, the perfect offensive player that doesn't sacrifice defence, and a rare talent that rivals Mathews in sheer value. But hey... let's trade him away. Then we can know the joy of watching him play for a team that utilizes him properly, and watch him score an insane number of points against us (so Steve can tear what's left of his hair out.) Seriously... we'll deserve what he get when he's gone... AND what we get instead.

[@Firearcher4]

The core needs to remain. The Leafs have traditionally blown up their team and its gotten them nowhere since 1967. Other teams lose and keep their team intact and a number eventually win. Some don't. So many ex-Leafs who were railroaded outta town by Leafs fans and arm chair GM's have gone on to win cups elsewhere. Marner will be added to that list if he is traded. Marner has value. After his contract ends he needs to be resigned at 9.0. If he refuses then trade him. Tavares has value. But right now he is a 5 million player, not 11 million. I want both men on the Leafs. Win or lose I want them to remain Leafs.

[@boltinabottle6307]

IIRC Mitch is also a hometown/homegrown superstar, not to mention a "dyed in the wool" fan from childhood. It would look REALLY bad if they don't treat his situation with care. Of course it's a business, but players take those things into consideration.

[@user-lg1rd7jb5m]

Lets all remember where treliving is from. ARIZONA where he let blake wheeler walk..for nothing. OUCH. He dismantled the flames after paying for a #1 goalie. They need to unhandcuff themselves of the 11mil 3rd line center. The new coach will no match the wins record, the points record and he will.not get past the 2nd round if they even win the first. The cosch wasnt the problem. Hey keefe. Here is a plethora of 3rd pairing dmen playing minutes they shouldn't be but when you lose we will use you as the scapegoat. They never replaced muzzin, they never replaced klingberg. You dont win without top 4 D pairings

[@jeremy008100]

Come on, Daryl Sutter dismantled the flames. No young man wants a goon like him in their life. Tre built a great roster and was handcuffed by the coach.

[@user-lg1rd7jb5m]

@@jeremy008100 no coach makes trades and signings. If that was the case then keefe would not of had a plethora of 3rd pairing dmen playing minutes they shouldn't be. He would have an actual top D. Treliving traded tkachuk a franchise player for hubredeau lol let Johnny hockey walk. He let blake wheeler walk for nothing in Arizona. He is the worst gm in the game of hockey.

[@jeremy008100]

Ok fine, I’ll repeat myself. Those players forced their way out due to Sutter. Tre was correct to do nothing last year. Team wasn’t worth investing draft capital in. Also you missed the presser where Berube says he and Tre will build the roster. Keefe was absolutely one of the problems with this team. His David Kampf obsession for one, I’ll give you one guess as to who keefe put on the ice after nylander scored the opener in game 7. Instantly giving up the lead they fought half the game to get.

[@user-lg1rd7jb5m]

@@jeremy008100 tkachuk when he signed his bridge deal said in article that he loved Calgary, pre.sutter. lol treliving is the worst gm in the nhl

[@RobbieG17]

Here's hoping JT takes a very team friendly deal going forward, but Marner needs to go. Whether it's a trade this year, or just letting him walk in free agency next year for the cap relief.

[@user-qq1wp2zz1l]

Tavares is going to be skating at the speed of an 80 year old I'd move on

[@quincyroach4067]

I'm sorry but nothing is happening to marner, and nothing is happening to tavares. Full stop, this BS needs to stop. What will be happening is Rielly will be traded and the leafs will have a very different defense core. That and in Goal will be the biggest changes next year. Any team that decides to give up on a 27year old 100pt player, is NUTS. Try utilizing the players they have better. play marner at center!! get him wingers that can work with him. Shoot pry dvorak away from where ever he is, and have two solid lines. Yes Marner and Matthews are good, but too easy to defend when paired. the third player hardly touches the puck. Marner was drafted as a center, time to use him as such.

[@en3rgy77]

Who is this ? Not the hyped up dude you regularly see after each game.

[@bubbaolive883]

Maybe 1 or two nothings will go. Will be pretty much the same exact team. Leafs have no power over guys right now. Players are in control. Only the fans can make things happen now and they better start chirping if they want change!

[@mc-rv5ou]

domi will not take min lol...its still his lively hood. He'll play for what's best for him just like why all the top guys never take a deal

[@user-ev8tv1qe1z]

JOHN THEVIRUS IS VERY BAD IN OT & HIS PLUS/MINUS IS LESS THAN STELLAR!!!!!!!!!!

[@warricknoseworthy4805]

Do u ever think that the coach is the answer...for about 3 years it was Nylander you wanted to go and now its Marner turn is it? so if he goes i guess it will be Matthews turn next year that has to go if the team doesnt do well so on and so on oh i also forgot the goal keepers too ? You guys have never been happy about those guys either so i have a great idea ...SHUT UP!!!!

[@mass.b]

Getting real sick of these bozos running Marner out of town.

[@pantsumonster]

Why?

[@daveallen9921]

All you lazer brain Maple Leaf fans check Marners playoff stats. 50 points in 57 games. Compare to Stanley Cup winners on other teams. HE IS THE REAL DEAL. The reason the Leafs lose lies elsewhere. Like lack of faith by their 'fans'. Good fans don't turn their backs on loyal players even if they lose. 32 teams 1 winner.

[@Alexdenomme]

Domi will take minimum if he has too. Hes got too much love for that town and that team to leave. He is there for Craif Berube reasons. Who has more heart and passion for the leafs than MAXIMUM DOMI

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Doubtful. He will go to the highest bidder.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Nah ... he will become part of the Leafs Royalty ... you know ... that Muskoka 5 stuff ...

[@johnsummerhill8323]

@@Tiglath-PileserXIX ok. Mr Habs.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

@@johnsummerhill8323 Since the last time the Leafs won the Cup in '67, the Habs last won the Cup in '68, '69, '71, '73, '76, '77, '78, '79, '86, '93. They were Cup runners up in '20 after embarrassing the Leafs with a 3-1 comeback when the Core Four decided to call it a season. Yeah I know I am rubbing it in. But there is just no comparison.

[@shirleydaley5335]

Lmao Domi is going where the biggest pay and term is,

[@thomascampbell4557]

Get rid of Marnar Traveris, if I could get rid of Mattews I would,Traveris it’s a decision player , the other two wimps, not build for playoffs, my opinion,but now, it’s hard to do,to much money paid for these players,so will you get value back?

[@mister_floppy_hockeyhighlights]

I honestly think Marner will have the best season of his career this year and he loves the leafs so much that he will waive his NTC to better the team instead of walking away in F.A and get out of there around the deadline. But he will have an insane season just to show toronto that he should be the one to get the bag and should be a leaf lifer, but they F***ed that up.

[@MichaelBelsey]

How did THEY screw that up. He's a good player who sucks in the playoffs because he has a bad attitude and can't play physical hockey.

[@mister_floppy_hockeyhighlights]

@@MichaelBelsey yet he more physical then nylander 🤣 more hits more blocked shots better defensivly and weighs 20 less then him and he has the most points out of any active leafs. How they messed it up is by giving nylander the bag the guy has no achievements only been an all star 1 time was constantly benched because of his attitude and lack of effort, is a joke in the playoffs weighs more then mitch and doesn't play physically at all and wat h the pasta game 7 goal mitch pointed for support nylander had very good positioning to help prevent the goal and all he did was watch pasta and coast down the slot 🤣 nylander isn't a team player, only shows up when he wants to and is probably the main issue in the locker room.

[@tylerjohnson8973]

Lmao so in his mind there isnt much change coming

[@ricklatour2794]

tavaras worst +- for team canada

[@bestbyfar1118]

They aren't going anywhere Marner is going to stick it to the Leafs and will leave next year and the Leafs get nothing LMFAO wow. Trade Mathews or someone with term makes no sense. Marner is not going anywhere

[@matthewchristie7712]

this is the worst choice ever - the leafs head office needs to be completly changed by 2025-2026 (ownership gone) leafs will be "rebuilding" by 2026 (2027 , 60 years , good luck by 70 )

[@MySundin13]

JT STAYS....Mitch has got to go. JT only has 1 year left of high cap hit....next year he will sign a 4x4mil hometown discount. he's already made his Bank.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Matthews is the guy that could be traded and would bring back a lot because he has 4 years on his deal.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Next year JT will sign a team friendly deal ... with a contender, not the Leafs.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

@@johnsummerhill8323 Nah. Matthews will score 70 goals next year. MLSE cannot possibly miss out on a full arena every home game and the merch that comes with it. He will guarantee at least two home games during the playoffs. He isn't going anywhere.

[@jgorms4054]

Buy out Tavares. Trade Marner. Trade Reilly....Lets see a whole new version of the Leafs next year.

[@jgorms4054]

Buy out Tavares. Trade Marner. Trade Reilly....Lets see a whole new version of the Leafs next year.

[@bobulak8545]

If Im MM I would refuse to waive and finish out the contract. The Leafs havent done him any favors.

[@MrNicolas61]

Reilly needs to go more than marner imo

[@BruceWayne-ee6vb]

It's kinda hard to move Reilly. They don't have a young stud that can replace him, and he's not gonna get a whole lot in a trade, tbh.

[@cantrait7311]

Great player JT He’s won nothing

[@terdonwanna7853]

These rumours before season is even over is so sickening i am unsubscribing sorry steve can handle the B.S

[@armandolarade7861]

Marner has sucked in every playoffs he's been in...why would other teams want a perennial loser who doesn't want to pay the price it takes to win. He's got 0 fight in him and the rest of this core is exactly the same. Again, no heart, no anger, no fight. They think the Stanley Cup is a golf trophy...Marner comes out of a playoff game with exactly 0 sweat dripping from anywhere on his face...that's why he's yelling fore right now checking his stock portfolio. Loser.

[@jeremy008100]

This JT talk has to stop. He’s the captain and the guy is not a liability by any means aside from his cap hit. It’s one more year and he deserves to finish it out with head held high. Hopefully he’ll resign for cheap after that.

[@Rich__L]

I hope Gio stays

[@Red_River_Films]

This is exactly why I can’t through 1 minute of a CJ segment. It’s like he goes to the cottage with John and can’t make an honest statement. He talks so damn much about nothing at all.

[@christopherziegler5837]

So sick of the Lowly Leafs. More entertaining watching Oilers or Canucks. Leafs style is dull and boring with no heart players and coaching. They have deep pockets and that alone keeps them going.

[@christophercarrigg3775]

Tavares gonna be given an 8 year deal??? Toronto people are delusional

[@BrianTheLeafsGuy]

Zero people have said this. They talked about Marner getting an 8 year here but not Tavares...

[@Trumpsterfire101]

Austin Matthews is done in TO.

[@mapleleafer74]

Precipitous, sorry. Bet he couldn't spell it.