Who’s qualified to treat your OCPD? Am I?

Who’s qualified to treat your OCPD? Am I? Episode 028
One of the most common challenges I get via this channel and the ocpdonline.com website is whether or not I’m qualified to be giving advice and help. And that seems like a fair enough question to me. Fair enough that I feel it deserves it’s own video response. But that doesn’t make for the most compelling content, os lists discuss who really is qualified to diagnose and treat your obsessive compulsive personality disorder. If you have OCPD, should you be seeing a therapist, a psychiatrist or maybe just consulting self help books? Maybe the answers will surprise you.
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OCPD: My Life In Debris is a channel dedicated to helping sufferers of obsessive compulsive personality disorder and those dealing with the people in their life that are afflicted with this personality disorder. We will delve into topics covering detailed explanations of the disorder, exploring treatment options, interviews with sufferers, how to live with the disorder, interviews with those that have people in their life with OCPD, and talks with treatment professionals. In addition, we will explore personality disorders and mental health disorders and how to navigate the world when these are a part of your daily life.
最近、日本で􏰀パーソナリティ障害クラスターC 群がますます増えてきている点で、私􏰁注意 を引きました。こ􏰁ようなことが起きている理由を説明する􏰁􏰀困難ですが、日本􏰁文化がそ 􏰁一端を担っていると考える􏰁􏰀不自然で􏰀ないでしょう。チャネル􏰁アナリティクスを確認し てみると、私􏰁コンテンツに􏰀アジア、特に日本から􏰁関心が寄せられていることがわかりま す。こ􏰁チャンネル􏰁目的􏰀、できるだけ多く􏰁人にメッセージを届け、役に立ててもらうことな 􏰁で、動画を日本語字幕付きで提供することにしました。コンテンツ􏰀、特に「強迫性パーソナ リティ障害」をテーマにしています。強迫性パーソナリティ障害􏰀、日本でも多く見られる強迫 性障害と􏰀別􏰁疾患です。強迫性パーソナリティ障害􏰀、略して OCPD と呼􏰂れており、また 文献上で􏰀強迫性パーソナリティ障害 (Anankastic personality disorder (APD)) とも呼􏰂れて います。OCPD 􏰀、白か黒か􏰁思考と完璧主義的な特徴を持つ障害です。実際􏰁特徴􏰀、􏰀 るかに複雑ですが、それを説明するために動画を用意しました。内容がお役に立てれ􏰂、ある い􏰀少なくとも情報として参考にしていただけれ􏰂幸いです。ご覧いただきありがとうございま した。また、以下にお気軽にコメントをお寄せください。
用語􏰁説明
強迫性パーソナリティ障害
強迫性􏰁
完璧
完璧主義者
完璧な
完璧主義
メンタルヘルス
うつ病
不安
#mentalhealth
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#perfectionism
#depression
#anxiety
#obsessivecompulsivepersonalitydisorder
#ocd

[@gergskoorb7700]

I agree with Larissa, the conversational format is awesome. Glad to see this upload too, since I'm trying to work my way up to therapy...but haven't found anyone I can afford yet. Not bring able to afford care is pretty frustrating

[@chlinkink7433]

Gerg Skoorb I’m sorry you’re experiencing the financial aspect of care. It’s a story too often told. I’m passionate about the healthcare travesty that exists in this country (I’m assuming you’re American). I work with a campaign to help poorly or uninsured people find affordable care. There are some out there who work on a sliding scale and they tend to be very good MHPs. Maybe that’s because they care more about people than money. Don’t give up. Find someone in your state who is a health advocate and see if they can help you find options. As for working up the nerve, I totally relate. Personally I have found getting into therapy has been helpful.

[@larissaelf555]

Gerg Skoorb Oh, good luck to you! Healthcare is SO expensive, an unfortunate and horribly frustrating reality 😕😖. I hope you can find something that works for you 🌺

[@OCPD_support]

Gerg Skoorb thanks for the feedback. I'm glad to know that the format is working for some people. I'm sadly in a similar situation to you in regards being able to attend therapy. The money isn't the issue as much as I'm not in one location long enough to see a therapist. I believe I would benefit immensely from seeing someone, but I do what I can for myself in the meantime. In one of my videos I link to some articles that offer up some things you can do on your own that function as treatment methods. I'll link to that below. I also put together a month long challenge that has helped me, and I'll link to that as well. Thanks as always for watching.

[@OCPD_support]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYispYyCpMhkla8

[@OCPD_support]

www.ocpdonline.com/ocpd-my-life-in-debris/benjamin-franklin-challenge-thirteen-virtues

[@larissaelf555]

Darryl, so glad you are back! It was a nice surprise this morning, seeing that you uploaded a video. A few things... Hmm...I don't think you take a lot of time getting to the point. Interesting. Your format is rather...conversational, I think. So, sort of easing into the topic with anecdotes or thoughts or humor (your "cliche" moments and missing pillow truly made me laugh out loud) actually seems kind of relaxing to me. And no, that could NOT have been a 30 second video (laughing again). You gave really great information about all the people out there who practice therapy and work with the mental health population. I am a nurse and work with these people every day and even I get totally confused with all the alphabet soup! Your descriptions were helpful and succinct. Okay...I am quite SHOCKED that your information was deleted from that forum. And I can tell that the experience was rather...hurtful to you. Well, maybe that word is a little strong. I am not a big internet surfer, though I know that forums often have their own peculiar rules, but isn't the point for people to share information and provide support? You were offering your own perspectives, insight, and personal knowledge and were shut down and I just don't understand it. You make it very clear that you are not a mental health professional and you ALWAYS encourage people to seek help from a professional, as well as do their own research and soul-searching. I don't know. I just don't get it. I am sorry that happened to you. Anyway, sorry this is so long! But, it was a great start to my day seeing your video. I look forward to many more!

[@chlinkink7433]

Larissa Elf Agree. Darryl, I don’t know the details of the forum situation but I hope you can view it honestly and then put it in the right perspective by asking questions I often find myself asking after something like that. ‘Where was I wrong? Where was I right? What did I learn?’

[@OCPD_support]

Larissa Elf so nice posting a video knowing that I'll hear from all my regular viewers. I hope you're well. Thanks for the thoughts on the forum situation from you and Chlink Ink. It stung a little to be sure. I'm used to it from OCPD resources. And as I'm carving out my niche in where I can post and try to offer help, it's completely fine. But I really wanted to get some information out there to the OCD folks and I was cut off at every turn. If an estimated 1% (and that's the lowest estimate) of people may suffer from OCPD, and there are less than 100 KZbin searches for OCPD per month, I would say that the general public are being severely underserved. I find that quite upsetting. I appreciate what you had to say about the conversational quality of the videos. That's how I intend them to be. It drives me absolutely crazy that I can't address the viewer directly by looking directly into the camera because I'm following a script or outline. After all of this time producing videos, I've finally found a portable teleprompter that will work for my purposes. So hopefully I'll be able to afford it in the near future. I think it will drastically improve the quality of my content.

[@OCPD_support]

@@chlinkink7433 you're definitely correct. They are well within their rights to monitor or police their forums. But as I stated to Larissa, I haven't found a successful in for getting my content in front of people with OCD.

[@charleslincoln443]

Chlink Ink Yes.

[@charleslincoln443]

Larissa Elf You’re nice.

[@iamnow8]

It doesn't matter who helps you, it's no ones job but y/our own to 'Fix the Issue' Thanks Darryl for taking such so much time and effort to share what you know and help create a community, each of us must lead the way where possible, there is so much information to be discovered and shared around, I've reduced the negative effects of so many symptoms over many years, your channel and courage inspires me to share what I've learn't regardless of it's INFERPECT ABSOLUTENESS

[@OCPD_support]

Miesyk Self I couldn't agree more. The more all of us share the more we all can learn from each other. The one thing I see that upsets me is when someone pushes one path to mental well being. We each need to find our own and then stick with it! Thanks for the comment.

[@kater6873]

I have been watching each of your videos and I have found them to be so, so helpful. As someone who struggles with OCPD, it is nice to hear this information from somebody who has lived experience. OCPD is hardly ever talked about and I think it is so important to be raising awareness about it. Your videos help me feel like I am not alone. I would love to see you do a video about how OCPD can manifest or become more prominent in young adulthood. I noticed my OCPD worsened after I left for college because I was no longer in a highly structured environment like I was in high school. Thank you again for doing what you do! :)

[@OCPD_support]

Kaitlyn R somehow I was never alerted to this comment. Thank you for the kind words and I'd love to cover the topic you recommend in a future video.

[@anngoswick4806]

I appreciate the scope of this, Darryl. Helpful warnings too!

[@OCPD_support]

Ann Goswick thank you very much.

[@autismenlightenment]

Just met my new therapist and im sadly not impressed. Just an appointment to make more appointments... I would not know i have ocpd without you. I was also diagnosed w ocd but that was dropped for classic autism and ptsd over the summer. Its been years and i still have little faith in finding help. You are correct i need to be impressed by and admire the person who im getting assistance/instruction from and i dont look upto many humans.

[@larissaelf555]

Autism Enlightenment Gosh, that is so tough...I am really sorry you cannot find the right person to help you. 😕 I hope you can find a caring person who will listen to you and help you create a good plan to proceed, one that you are on board with. Best wishes 🌺

[@chlinkink7433]

Autism Enlightenment Don’t give up. The right MHP is out there. Sometimes you just have to keep looking. That’s not easy. But I have found good help. I believe you can too. And give yourself some praise. You’re seeking help. Most don’t even do that.

[@autismenlightenment]

@@chlinkink7433 Thank You! Glad to hear you found someone helpful - that makes me hopeful!

[@chlinkink7433]

Happy New Year to you. Good video. I appreciate you addressing the fact that the internet can have a lot of bad information and to be wary or at least cautious. It’s always good to be objective as possible when reading or watching anything dealing with mental health. Critical thinking is almost a lost art. I will say that I have come across a few posts in places by MHPs that were disconcerting. One specifically truly seemed to have an ax to grind regarding OCPD’s. I guess she had a bad experience. So my suggestion to people is to consider the human element of every person (MHP or not) to remain objective. I’m in a severe depression right now. But I am doing some smart things and believe in time they will soon bear fruit. I’m spending time in prayer every morning and eating much healthier. I’m contemplating starting a journal (which produces anxiety for me for a number of reasons- failure, privacy, my feelings, reality). *The last 2 in that parenthetical phrase were supposed to be a little humorous.* Last year I realize I experienced a great deal of loss. I certainly gained some very good things also. As for losses, I lost my best friend of decades in a cruel series of betrayals, nearly lost a child to a serious disease, learned that some close family members were abused sexually, found out a close friend has cancer and the prognosis is not good and lost a very good therapist. This is tough stuff. Very intense losses. The kind that change you. Gains have been that I have found sobriety in two major areas of life. Life changing ones and knowing that I could remain sober (not to substances FYI) despite the difficulties makes me feel strong also. My wife and I are getting along better, my career is uphill and I learned a lot and some OCPD symptoms are milder. I don’t make resolutions in a new year. I just set some positive goals and start putting action to good ideas. Looking for a new therapist is high on the list (as are the health goals I mentioned). Well, thanks for letting me lay on your non-MHP couch (I have your pillow, btw). You’re awesome and have helped me in a unique way that I’ve really needed. Thanks!

[@OCPD_support]

Chlink Ink absolutely on your first point. It's amazing how many MHPs are in therapy themselves. We are all flawed and have our good days and bad days. I'd be really curious to read an article though by an MHP that had a particular ax to grind. I'm sorry to hear that you're in the throes of a severe depression. It sounds like you're doing all of the right things to get yourself back out of it. On the one hand it can be overwhelming thinking about how cyclical all of the states of mind can be, but on the other side, shouldn't we be getting better at navigating them, haha. Speaking of cyclical, it sounds like 2019 is already proving itself to be less challenging than last year. All of those things you talked about are awful, but they are a part of life. In the moment having everything go wrong at once is a nightmare and a fog that we can't see our way out of. But in hindsight, with how life works it can be a relief to have all of those things handled at once. Like ripping off a bandaid. It's during the good times that we need to lay the groundwork to ensure we are strong enough to make it through the tough times. Seems like I'm not out of cliches. However, your comments and the comments of others are very helpful to me and I have much gratitude for them. Here's to a brighter future.

[@larissaelf555]

Chlink Ink Really very sorry you are having issues with depression. I can relate...last year was difficult and this year is beginning very badly, in fact, at the moment I am in a very dark place. I appreciate hearing about things people try to help them through it, I need some ideas right now. I did make a renewed commitment to therapy this year, so that's one thing, also "broke down" and started medication, perhaps the hardest thing I have EVER done. I keep toying with the idea of a journal and just need to set aside time each day for it, I guess. I do get regular exercise and eat well, though my appetite has been so bad due to the depression. I wish you the best. Somehow it is comforting to know that others feel a little how I feel, and encouraging to hear how others are working to better themselves.

[@ryanliberty]

It me! 😄 You're a good resource! Even if there's a filter 😁

[@OCPD_support]

Ryan Liberty / Mental Health love what you do on your channel my brother.

[@markstahl1464]

Yeah, the biggest concern is that apparently many therapists don't have much experience treating OCPD, wouldn't know what to do with it if they were to encounter it, or simply wouldn't recognize it for what it is to begin with. Then there's the question of whether they're really going to do therapy, or if they're just going to slap a label and a band aid on you, and ship you off to the insurance company. For this very reason, it seems that the kind of therapists who DON'T take insurance may end up being the best options in some cases. Basically, don't write someone off solely because they don't take insurance.

[@OCPD_support]

Mark Stahl that's also a good point for people to consider. My long term goal is to compile a list of therapists that have experience treating patients with OCPD, but I'm a long way off from having that ready.

[@whatthe8090]

Hi I have ocpd and I only knew I had ocpd when I watched your ocpd vs OCD video. Up until then I thought I had OCD. Thanks a lot for that. The more videos of you I watch, more scared and uneasy it makes me feel. . I want to get help. But I don't know which psycho therapist or psychiatrist to trust. . Well enough of my ramblings Hope it gets better for you :)

[@OCPD_support]

WHAT THE!!!! I'm glad that the videos have been helpful. I understand being scared, but I truly believe that if I was able to get a handle on it, anyone can. Yes it's a lot of work, but it's completely worth it. I can empathize with the psychiatrist dilemma, but the process is long and it's more important to just start than to start perfectly. You can switch psychiatrist if they don't work out, but at least you will have been working on yourself in the meantime. Thanks for watching.

[@whatthe8090]

@@OCPD_support thank you, This issue has essentially crushed my life, This, all or nothing attitude has led me to 3 years of unemployment. And it still is stopping me from getting down to work. Work I would love to do, but work I'm too scared to start because of imperfections and possible failures. . Your videos gave me a lot of encouragement to get professional help. . I know I'm going to waste a lot of time trying to find a perfect doctor. But I won't give up. . Again, thanks a lot for your work 😊

[@OCPD_support]

@@whatthe8090 you are very welcome!

[@kimberlyrosssegovia203]

I look forward to your new content. I love your videos, save most of them for reference, entertainment and for shits and giggles. The fact that they were removed without prior notice to you or your subscribers is not only rude it's disrespectful, unprofessional and simply insensitive. I just hope I was all caught up. Guess I'll never know. I'm a subscriber and i checked the bell icon. I have yet to receive any of your channels updates, reminders or new video notifications. In fact I actually find your channel through the videos I previously saved. So... Omit the shits and giggle reference. The struggle is real my friend, keeps us humble, grounded and makes for a good target for all the built up stresses we accumulate. Breathe and just let it go. Keep on keeping on and doing your thing. We'll find you.... One way or another. If u make it, they will come. 😹

[@OCPD_support]

SEGOVIA FAMILY LIFE thank you for the entertaining comment :) I have no idea what is going on with KZbin. They seem hell-bent on hurting small channels. They've obviously got a much bigger plan and it doesn't involve the creators that made their platform what it is today. Anyway, thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts. I'll just keep breathing and letting it abide. Have an awesome day!

[@JenniferFugate1111]

So what legal qualifications do I look for? I noticed some counselors are not allowed to prescribe medicine, and I'm confused as to what legal acronym I should look for.

[@OCPD_support]

Jennifer Fugate what country are you in, as that will have implications?

[@JenniferFugate1111]

America @@OCPD_support

[@OCPD_support]

@@JenniferFugate1111 Psychiatrists and psychiatric or mental health nurse pracitioners can prescribe medications. Some states allow psychologists to prescribe medications as well, but that's not the norm. Plenty of different kinds of mental health professionals are qualified to administer therapy however. You can ask if they have specific experience with OCPD patients if that is something that is important to you.

[@JenniferFugate1111]

OCPD: My Life In Debris thank you 🙏

[@AmericaWeTrust]

I have a tip for you, and please take this as a positive critique. Your Camera is to high. Your eyes are always looking up. When you look at your screen I feel more comfortable, and I feel like you're talking to me! ;-) I find your life experience as helpful. I don't personally have COPD, but I do have a Perfectionist issue, which can cause problems when I socialize with my wife, friend and acquaintances. I tend to be inpatient when someone is talking, and jump in or talk over to explain whatever they're trying to say but in a better way. I worked with a man with COPD for 14 years. I found it helped me myself, as I was patient with him, as he would get very frustrated or angry, if someone did anything that changed his order of things. I hope I made sense... I guess I needed to get that out

[@OCPD_support]

AmericaWeTrust 2015 I 100% agree with you and have been frustrated my my videos for this reason up to this point. However, if you look at my post on the community tab from earlier today (pure coincidence, haha) you'll see that this issue is going to be fixed by the next upload. Your post made complete sense. As such a large part of what OCPD is is tied into perfectionism, you can expect a lot more content in the future specifically covering this topic. It's something I want to explore a lot further Thanks so much for watching and giving me some constructive feedback. It's always welcome.

[@AmericaWeTrust]

@@OCPD_support I found your Twitter page purely by accident, and subsequently your KZbin Video. I find it hard to believe someone else had my same critique. It was a Coincidence! ;-) I didn't know Perfectionism was a symptom of OCPD, thus that's why I said, "I hope I made sense..." In the past few years I've been on twitter talking Politics, so I'm finding I need help with my Mental Health..No kidding right!? :-) I'll be following your twitter and KZbin. I enjoyed hearing what you had to say, and I can see myself benefiting from your experiences! ;-)

[@Mrblobbybobby]

I'm 100% sure I have OCPD but I live in the UK and the NHS refuses to diagnose or treat it :( In fact the only two personality disorders they will diagnose are anti-social and borderline! I was going to ask an online OCPD support group if any are British and what I should do next, but it is members only and I need an OCPD diagnosis just to join it...

[@OCPD_support]

Snizzbut I'm so sorry that this is the situation that you're currently in. I'm originally from the UK and understand the difficulty you're facing. But I have some good news. There is a Facebook group (and it's more active than any other group or forum online) and you would be able to join no problem. It's just called 'OCPD support group'. If you have trouble joining or finding it, please let me know.

[@Mrblobbybobby]

@@OCPD_support Thanks for the reply, I've been watching your videos for a month but I've finally managed to leave a comment, your channel is incredibly helpful! This is the group I was referring to btw: facebook.com/groups/ocpd.support/ It's the biggest I can find but says I need a "formal diagnosis" to join, also rule 6 says no "fake profiles" but I don't use FB (I don't use my real name online at all) so I only have an anonymous FB account and don't have a "real" one to contact an admin with :(

[@christinespell3791]

When you haven't been officially diagnosed with OCPD, but are pretty sure you have it, and then watch a video calling you out about fitting 'our bill' when trying to find someone to work with hahaha. Even though I've heard it out loud now I still don't know if it will be any easier to find someone I believe is right for me.

[@OCPD_support]

Christine Spell I understand the struggle. I, along with many others, are so focused on finding a therapist that has the most experience treating our particular disorders, we end up skipping over therapists that might have been a great match. A good therapist will be constantly evolving the sessions to match your needs. It's much, much more important to find a therapist that "feels" right. Someone with whom you feel comfortable or maybe it's your personalities that are a good match. I wish you the best in your search.

[@Alaa-ft4is]

I’ve been misdiagnosed with ADHD but then diagnosed with OCPD. I want to talk to you 😭

[@OCPD_support]

Alaa I'm sorry to hear that. Did you have a question you wanted to ask me?

[@Alaa-ft4is]

OCPD: My Life In Debris actually I did see almost all your videos since a year maybe! My question is, Does OCPD affect GPA? Because I was intelligent in high school but in college everything have been changed to the worst. Forgetfulness, concentrating and understanding was poor. The problem is I know I can be better but I don’t know why my performance was poor!

[@OCPD_support]

@@Alaa-ft4is the short answer is yes, but like all things, it's more complicated than that. Procrastination due to a fear of failure can cause undue stress and poor performance. Stress from dealing with a personality disorder can affect memory. Concentration can be difficult due to trying to tackle too many things at once. It would be hard for me to know which parts of your OCPD are likely to be giving you a hard time, but there's a strong likelihood that it could be affecting your GPA.

[@Alaa-ft4is]

OCPD: My Life In Debris Thank you so much! Your channel helped me a lot to discover my problems. Can’t thank you enough!

[@FANTIAGOX]

My whole family has ocpd I’m literally trapped.

[@OCPD_support]

AvexOffline I have a video that's way overdue, but it should be finally coming out next week. I'm halfway through editing it and you might find the information helpful.

[@RaynesX]

Video actually starts off at 4:34, anything before is absolutely useless.

[@OCPD_support]

JD D spoken like a true person with OCPD. A fine example of lack of tact.

[@RaynesX]

@@OCPD_support Yeah, anything critical towards you is a demonstration of lack of tact. I point out a fact, and your response is to attack my character. Embarrassing, learn to take criticism.

[@OCPD_support]

@@RaynesX do you have any idea how difficult it is for me to make these videos? And I get criticized all the time and I try to take that criticism and improve my next video if I can. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. What you did wasn't criticize, it was being a dick. It would have been easy to say that "he really only talks about personal stuff for half the video, so if you want the actual content skip to 4:34". I stand by my original response to you even more so then when I wrote it the first time.

[@iamnow8]

Fuck you JD :)

[@charleslincoln443]

Perhaps the OCD folk became obsessive and compulsive regarding their content on their forums. 🤔

[@OCPD_support]

Charles Lincoln hmmmmmmm, perhaps you're on to something.

[@larissaelf555]

Charles Lincoln Oh my goodness, you are awesome 🤣😃😆😄

[@kater6873]

I have been watching each of your videos and I have found them to be so, so helpful. As someone who struggles with OCPD, it is nice to hear this information from somebody who has lived experience. OCPD is hardly ever talked about and I think it is so important to be raising awareness about it. Your videos help me feel like I am not alone. I would love to see you do a video about how OCPD can manifest or become more prominent in young adulthood. I noticed my OCPD worsened after I left for college because I was no longer in a highly structured environment like I was in high school. Thank you again for doing what you do! :)

[@OCPD_support]

Kaitlyn R thank you so much for your kind words. It means a lot to me to hear that and it helps me as well to know I'm not alone. I think your video idea is a great suggestion and I will add it to my list of upcoming topics to cover. If you ever have a specific question, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks for watching!

[@kater6873]

@@OCPD_support Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment. :) And yes, your videos have been immensely helpful and watching them has been a bit of a vicarious experience. It helps put a lot into perspective for me. I know you mentioned this briefly in a previous video, but I would also love to hear about how changing your diet/exercise helped you with your OCPD. Thank you!

[@OCPD_support]

@@kater6873 absolutely. I'll continue to touch on these things in future videos. With diet and exercise I'm treating myself as a giant experiment. Which is essentially what we do when we go through the process of finding the right medications with a health professional. Only, barring allergies, this is a lot easier on our bodies and minds. With food, eating healthy helps to give me the energy needed to win the battles taking place in my mind daily. I take supplements (B12 for example) and I play around with doses to see which ones give me the most energy and clarity. The same with food. More carbs, less carbs, more protein, more healthy fats and so on. Keep going until you hit the right combination. I haven't found the perfect fit for myself yet, but I believe in the power of a good diet and I will continue to keep experimenting. It's similar with exercise in regards to energy and clarity. But exercise is a good way to work out negative thoughts. It's a good way to work out thoughts in general. If I have a anxiety causing thought I can just push myself harder in the gym until I have to focus so much on my body and what I'm doing, that there's no room left for the thought. I don't particularly like the gym. The thought of going actually adds to my anxiety. So I try to go earlier on in the day to get it over with. And that way for the rest of the day I don't have to dread it and I reap all of the benefits of going.