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Chapters:
0:00- Video Start
3:00- Brentford Game
7:30- ten Hag's tactics
13:00- Criticising players
18:10- Is this on ten Hag?
22:15- Injuires
26:00- Mainoo
31:00- ten Hag's future
36:00- ten Hag's post match comments
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[@rana1561]

31:27 this hysteria of changing manager is ao stupid when the club needs to focus on getting players replaced in the summer. Changing manager will be stupid. Ten hag needs to stay irrespectively if the club wants to take the power away from contracts and discipline and strengthen the squad.

[@1991jamesbond]

Crazy thought, what about doing both? No one actually has any reasons for Ten Hag staying on merit. It’s just “it’s the players fault” or “we can’t keep sacking managers”.

[@rana1561]

@@1991jamesbond I would argue that there is merit, ten Hag fixed multiple things by forcing the team to not just sit around for counter attacks, he introduced players who can play possession based football, but it still is a long journey, the squad is half way there. The reason why people cannot see it is because the club couldn't help him bring those changes in the critical positions in the spine- all our central defenders and defensive midfielders should be quick ball playing, but they are not right now- Casemiro, Varane, Lindelof, Maguire, Evans is still the base, you cannot keep a high line and counterpress with this, they always drop and they are in a stage that they will revert to their years of habit of droppin the line. And ten Hag still managed to find this Frankenstein monster ofna mismatch squad to grind results, the squad is far from deserving this position in the league, it will require more changes, that's why sacking manager is a stupid take, we are in the process, and people want to see improvement right now, not to forget the club environment, infrastructure, methods of functioning, discipline is full of a decade of rot that he needs to handle, just look how the medical and recovery team has created problems by wrongly informing the coaching staff about player recovery, where they either delayed a lot and didn't inform, or sent players too early and they had recurring injuries- just one example of things that need to prioritised over manager

[@1991jamesbond]

@@rana1561 we literally have no style of play (and this was before injuries). When he first came in it was possession based, but then he switched to transition play. But we’ve achieved neither. The point that many fans are missing it - does Ten Hag seem like a manager who can win us the league in a few years? Because that’s he goal, not scraping top4.

[@rana1561]

@@1991jamesbond oh stop with this style of play excuse, people are just insecure with this hipster obsession of needing to see style of play within 2 years like a magic instead of looking at the obvious shortcomings within the club infrastructure and recruitment process, and to satisfy this weak yearning, yes ten Hag has shown he has a style of play that is contemporary, he has shown that in multiple clubs he has been for multiple years with multiple squads before coming to an absolutely disjointed organisation that has an absolutely haphazard way of recruiting in Manchester United. No manager can create a front foot system with kind of random hirings United has accumulated over the years, right now ten Hag has fixed only a portion of profiles within the squad, you still have defenders and defensive midfielder who don't fit infront foot football that can manage against team that can press you continuously, and that's why people will continue to see a disjoint team till any managers gets to spend multiple years to form a consistent squad. And if you are so sure, can you please explain a front foot high line counterpressing system that can be built with Casemiro, Eriksen, Evans, Varane, lindelof and Maguire as your base that will not be slow and turned around with a single drop of shoulder and will be able to track back on time? And if you play to their strengths, the attackers will have to drop so back and give up pressing, and we'll be shitting on them to be a disgrace who can't see the ball or win it back once they lose it, because they chose to stay compact.

[@aaronreyes6081]

Funny how people are saying how Ten Hag abandoned his principles. He didn't have a choice. Are you forgetting that we got slapped 7-0 at Anfield for "sticking to principles?" We had a TERRIBLE end to last season where the squad just fizzled out. And now, the two main midfielders that were the backbone of that team (i.e. Eriksen and Casemiro) are nowhere near the levels they were last season. So sure, go ahead and "stick to principles". We'd be in a relegation battle, just like Villa was, even though they had one of the most valuable squads on paper in the Prem.

[@MUFCvsEverybody]

Ten hag isn't the reason we spent so much on Antony. United took too long to sign him and ajax upped their price.

[@1991jamesbond]

Even at £30m he’s overrated. Such a bad signing.

[@MUFCvsEverybody]

@@1991jamesbond he turned out to be, yes, but it's easy to say that with the benefit of hindsight.

[@1991jamesbond]

@@MUFCvsEverybody you say that but I distinctly remember watching some of his highlights and not understanding what the hype was about. Then when I heard £80m I couldn’t believe it. Similar issue with Mount - although I rate him as a player. When we bought him I was so baffed. He’s a no10/LW who Ten Hag really wants so he can play him as a central midfielder. Within the first 2 games of the season Ten Hag realised that was a big mistake.

[@elgallonegro1024]

So if we don’t have Mainoo we would be worse off yet ETH is expected to win with what he has. Half of your players aren’t up to the standard we need. If he stuck with his style and lost a load of games he would have been sacked. Even with all these issues he still has the best win ratio. Look at what Arsenal had to go to. Be patient

[@benzz4960]

Exactly this

[@thebiglebrowski3695]

Best win ratio because of easy league cup and europa league draws. Where it matters, in the keague, he is doing poorly.

[@elgallonegro1024]

He finished 3rd last season and was still in race for top 4 until a few weeks ago with all his best players injured

[@rana1561]

34:50 and you are not going to bring that authority to the manager if the club is sacking manager whenever players down the tools, or even start losing focus, players are too comfortable because they know they are safe, the club needs to install fear, that the manager will not be turned into a scapegoat for their lack of effort.

[@filipzagawa]

My thoughts exactly. How can you complain that "Ten Hag" doesn't show the authority. He only has as much authority as the people above him give him. He doesn't own the club, he can be sacked far more easily than players. The only way you can allow a manager to exercise authority is to give him the trust and power to do so. If you always show the players that the manager will be the first one to be sacked, then they are never responsible for the results.

[@LordPiddlington1912]

It doesn't matter who the manager is, there are problem characters within the squad who need to be moved on. No-one should be safe from the clear out. If ETH feels as though he can't drop Bruno or Rashford for fear of a mutiny, then they need to go.

[@Pad13]

When you look at the gaps, I can only think that Ten Hag is concerned about our ability to score goals cos atm he’s playing Bruno and McT so far forward that they become non entities in midfield.

[@Danny-iv5uu]

This team could play Jose ball,could adapt to rangnick, can’t play ten hag Ajax ball but now some think they can adapt to de zerbi or other managers? Nah,2 ten hag starters so how can he have a different style of play. Clear these players and watch a new system with better okayers

[@bharatbaghel5770]

Well not winning the second balls is all about desire. We literally did not win one second ball after 15 mins

[@playedout148]

Rashford somehow pulled it together when he wanted a new contract and had a career year.

[@Danny-iv5uu]

Post carabao is exactly when Martinez got injured who is the most important cog in ten hags team. No coincidence

[@anthonyhurn1988]

Martinez got injured in 1st leg against Sevilla in mid April. Carabao final was end of February bro

[@sidneyOT95]

If a manager can’t cope without one player then it’s the manager. Klopp had no Salah and still kept the team scoring tons of goals

[@thebiglebrowski3695]

​@@sidneyOT95Exactly. People are unreal with their excuses for Ten Hag.

[@mackinisation]

TH has the best in rate of any United manager. He has made plenty of mistakes but I think he deserves a bit more time.

[@leemccccccc999]

The football is diabolical though if he was willing to clear rashford Bruno and mcshite and make a statement then I would give him another year but I’m not so sure he will even want to do that

[@dhakpanda6708]

This is like your car breaking down and the mechanic says the vehicle needs a new owner

[@MrSchwabentier]

well if the reason for the breakdown is that the current car owner never did any maintenance, inspections or even a basic oil change, the mechanic has a point...

[@leemccccccc999]

Could job ten hag doesn’t own united then shit analogy that

[@dhakpanda6708]

@MrSchwabentier agreed matey, faults and fuck ups to the left an right of us. But if the shit driver has busted the axle, the car still needs a new axle. "Get rid of the manager!" seems to be some magical fix in fans heads and I'm super bored of it. EtH is a Good manager. MUFC is a shocking product and needs an entire make-over

[@ryanpitt8671]

Love this!

[@ryanpitt8671]

@@MrSchwabentier what a fucking shite comeback 😂😂 stupid comment off the month goes to you 🥇 Well done pal!

[@ryanpitt8671]

10:53 we’ve been watching lesser teams play better than us since Fergie left, usually at old Trafford 😂 this is a running theme for us now. It’s not all down to the manager. Granted he’s not helping.

[@michaelwilkinson9425]

Ronaldo Brown’s covert Klopp worship is too much man 😂

[@bobvickers9387]

Garnacho and Mainoo should not have played against Brentford post international break

[@scottsinner7530]

If we're asking the question "is there anyone who can rectify United [from a managerial standpoint]", that's the clearest sign ever that the problem IS NOT the manager. If you could look at this squad and say "just bring in Potter or Southgate or Flick or ANYONE, and these guys will really start firing", then it's on the manager. There's a reason nobody is saying that. See y'all back here in two years when we're having the same conversations about the next guy, and discussing what kind of game Marcus and Scott and Harry and Vic and Luke and Aaron will be having the following weekend.

[@Stan.k.Phlaps6447]

Nobody is saying ten hag is to blame for how the club declined over the past decade, but he is completely responsible for how the team have performed this season. Everything about our style of play, tactics, formation, player selection and fitness etc was decided and implemented by ten hag. Look at our stats. They're all over the place. There are so many reasons to question ten hag's methods and whether he's the right guy for next season. I think it makes sense to find a competent manager that will fit the new structure. I don't want to waste yet another season and another £250m on a manager that has already failed.

[@alexmeechan9701]

I don't even know how to respond to comments like this. Yeah, let's keep a manager that has us conceding 30 shots a game because we've sacked managers in the past. Ten Hag deserves the sack more than any of his predecessors, he has no clue what he's doing. INEOS will get rid of the likes of AWB and Maguire anyway. Just chatting absolute shit.

[@nothing-to7iy]

@@alexmeechan9701 The same players have caused the same porblems and you admit this by mentioning AWB and Maguire, and somehow its still primarily on the manager?

[@alexmeechan9701]

@@nothing-to7iy because they’re just two players? Onana, Garnacho, Hojlund, Mainoo, Licha, Antony, Mount and others have only known one United manager. It’s just a lazy argument to deflect from what’s going on, on the pitch. Deep down you know what Ten Hag is a dud in English football.

[@Parky_1712]

​@@alexmeechan9701And how often have that group of players been able to play together? It's a lazy argument to just completely ignore that and just blame the manager

[@rana1561]

20:18 No elite manager has a squad all over the place in terms of profiles the way United is right now, most managers replace an unavailable player with a squad player that is still consistent with the setup even if they are not as good, not hia Man United, players are so different that when they are replaced, massive changes are required to fit them together. the so called elite managers in R. Brown's head do not face this. Five me one manager that any can be sure can be consistent. On one hand we criticise almost all the players to be not being as good as required, then on the other hand, we also want the manager to make these not so good perform decent.

[@colinmufc]

Thank you, i do not know how people don't understand this. One week we are playing Casemiro the following McTominay, One week Varane the next week Evans, one week Lindelof and the next week Maguire. Having to play Lindelof or AWB at left back Rashford up front when Hojlund is injured etc etc etc. Also, Ronaldo saying top managers adapt to what they have, who remembers liverpool under Klopp the last few seasons when they had injuries

[@Falconshuffle24]

THANK YOU!! He needs the new structure to scout and find the best players for what he needs to build the team around the few players that should stay and that takes time to do

[@1991jamesbond]

I’ve got to say it’s refreshing to hear a main fan channel not being afraid to call out the manager, or clinging to excuses that don’t wash.

[@anthonyhurn1988]

Within 2 hours of winning the FA cup final it was breaking news on ssn that Van Gaal was being sacked, never mind 2 days

[@michaelwilkinson9425]

One of the asinine points in this is the compactness of formation… it’s been a problem for a good 4,5,6 years… if we press high up from the back… the defenders get burned for pace on the counter. I also think the Ajax style (especially some makeshift bargain bin version) just doesn’t work here the games too fast and physical. Ronaldo’s point on Mount doesn’t stick either… according to the press reports, Murtough and Arnold made an executive decision to peruse him for ‘fear of facing competition for his signature’ when he became a free agent.

[@ryanpitt8671]

The only thing we haven’t done is give the players the chop! This is the thing, we keep changing the manager and it never gets better. Sounds insane to me, sack the manager but only after we’ve made the point of clearing players out! That’s the answer

[@Danny-iv5uu]

Manager needs time,3-5 years then year 2 we want him out after a great first season We want him to stick to his style but then slate him because he doesn’t change playing out from the back when Maguire and de gea couldn’t do it The insane flip flapping from our fans who beg for patience then show zero is delusional. We arnt as good as we think so give it all time,progress isn’t linear.2 starters isn’t gonna help this seaosn

[@bobvickers9387]

Great discussion guys

[@ohheyitskevinc]

Players do what the manager and coaches tell them to do. Unless they mutiny and then they get dropped. Our shape and tactics are either a) players who don’t understand what the manager wants or b) they’re doing exactly what the manager wants them to do. Under all our managers since Moyes, we’ve had an identity. I honestly don’t know what it is now. These players are doing what they can. They’re not bad. They’re not world class either, but performances this year playing deep with a high front line leaving us exposed for 31 shots against on Sunday - that’s not from having bad players. They’re all professional and do a job for their countries (mostly). That performance and formation was the worst I’ve seen since… ever. And I’m 49. This is the coaching and manager I’m afraid. We need new and better players, but a coach who has better ideas and can adapt. When Carragher tells us what we can all see with our own eyes with our midfield gap/chasm, we know something’s wrong. Btw on the “the players don’t look arsed” theory: if the formation and tactics are poor and they’re not getting service, of course the likes of Rashford and Bruno will look annoyed/frustrated and throw their arms up during games. Their frustration won’t be at their teammates despite it looking like it.

[@DanOliverUK]

Cracking episode, this. 👌

[@Chai_K]

The club is to blame, keeping many of these jokers for years and years and still unable to see the down fall! ☠️

[@rykkernyberg7259]

Players to blame, we played with 9 outfield players for 99 minutes with McTominay in midfield. We fielded a back four from the Ole days after the first half. Rashford was pathetic.

[@CoroDan]

The players are too comfortable. The contracts are too lucrative, with not enough performance based targets. Started with Rooney under Fergie when he was flirting with a Real Madrid move. Been this way ever since.

[@Ace-wp7ld]

The reason alot of people dont care about the manager is we have changed the manager lots of times and changed several styles and its not worked to turn us to the better. Basically we have tried changing the manager that hasnt worked how about we move on these players and start fresh with players who can play the style we want to play with higher football iq so they can learn and adapt faster.

[@_Kwadwo]

Arteta is the reason EtH should be given time. This channel had a whole show on who was better than him. Look at Arsenal now. Sack EtH and we will have this same conversation 2 years down the line.

[@Eddie.Mootsen]

Areta was obviously trying to do something. Wtf is ETH trying to do?

[@rana1561]

​@@Eddie.Mootsenwith the mismatch in our defence, no one can build a style

[@nothing-to7iy]

Ronaldo is the perfect example of a fan who has no idea what he wants or what hes talking about. He on one hand says the best managers adjust to the situation and whats available to them, and within 5 minutes is saying hes abandoned his philosophies and that he should have been brave. Which is it? Its just platitudes.

[@chingytv7159]

He’s a clown, not balanced at all. Ten Hag is at fault for some of the play, but then he can’t wear a boot and play himself. Ronaldo blames the manager for everything.

[@ethandraper4645]

Worst is when he and Howson act like tactical geniuses. I like Howson but that shit is irritating beyond belief.

[@timmaggs2240]

I turn it off when Ronaldo is on. Can barely talk and when he does it’s tripe

[@scraggis6598]

Ronaldo talks way too much man

[@lucasvanwijngaarden670]

By no means do I want to claim EtH is free of blame but every excuse he has comes down to the fact the squad is a mess. Imagine he wants to bench Rashford because he's performing poorly and not putting in the effort. Who should he play instead? Garnacho LW and Antony RW? That's not gonna go over well and our other wingers are all

[@danika181263]

You need to have Jonathan back on again soon, I really enjoyed listening to him 👍❤️💪🔴

[@barrykingston7238]

Great lyrics Ronaldo on Mainoo a real concern for his development.

[@semillon5229]

A take from a fan here, If I where the football director for United, I would sit down with Ten Hag and have the rest of the board there and say. Look mate, you have 8 games, these 8 games I want you to set up to play the style of football you want, I don't want you to compromise because of players and what not, just have them play the system you want to play. After that I evaluate him over the following 3 matches and if there is no significant change in the style of play with and without the ball, it means that that's his style of play and that is a sackable offense. It doesn't matter who you get there, even the drunkard down town could probably get the same tune as an interim and would probably make more sense in the interviews. I would follow the model that Ange has instilled in Spurs where regardless of how shitty the situation gets, you don't change the style of play even if you get battered just like it happened to them against Chelsea early on in the season. If that was done then the recruitment team would have something to work with, like for example let's say that for Ten Hags desired style you detect an issue in Midfield where the 8 and the 6 are just not communicating, they know that they need to get an 8 that can perform the role of shifting between the back line and the forwards better having better awareness of the game. If the wingers don't create chances for the striker and Ten Hag explicitly has them cross the ball or put passes in and never look for the shot at goal unless it is completely imposible to get a better chance to shoot at goal than the one they have, then they know they need to go on the market for wingers that are more creative and better at crossing. If let's say the centerbacks are always caught by long balls in behind due to a lack of pace, then you need to go on the market for at least 1 quick center back to do the clean up work for loose balls whilst you might stick to the other one as he might have better chemistry with the keeper for playing out from the back and also with the standing 6. ETC. To know what you need to change you need to make clear what you want to play like, and that hasn't been done

[@jeffspencer790]

Garmacho and Mainoo should be used sparingly. United player development is terrible, the lack of a proper structure and success has bred a short term urgency which has been to the detriment of some players. Rashford for one should have been nurtured and become a far better player. Let's hope Sir Jim and Co can sort this.

[@anthonyhurn1988]

Exactly mate, that's why priority up top should've been kane.. then bring in Rasmus to learn from, and train and play with the best striker in the world everyday

[@bobvickers9387]

There is a clear fact that Klopp and pep would not put up with the evident lack of effort

[@playedout148]

They wouldn't have to. Those clubs get rid of lazy players.

[@rana1561]

​@@playedout148 Because those clubs made sure that the players know that they will back the manager over them, and those clubs could do that because they had players on contracts that made them easy to sell players. That's why upstairs is the real problem, and it won't be solved for some years because the likes of INEOS and Berrada will take some years to clear out players on bad contracts that give players a upper hand, that's why they are looking for younger players in the market.

[@nasser.h9473]

The manager has to take a lot of responsibility, it’s almost as if he’s asking for problems. Why play AWB at LB when you’ve got Dalot who can play there better? We’ve consistently had bad performances with a lot of shots against us. We’re very fortunate that we won some games this season or we would’ve definitely been in a relegation battle.

[@Parky_1712]

Have you watched the other games that Wan.Bissaka played at LB?? He actually played well there, and Dalot is a better RB than him anyways (for what Ten Hag wants at least) so I'd rather he stick with him in his better postion

[@Ace-wp7ld]

So you think the manager told them to not go in on any 50/50 balls? Or let them win every second and third chance balls? What about not being able to make simple sideways or backwards passes? What about win no aerial duels and not close down ball carriers looking to shoot? Be serious thats little kid fundamentals that the players werent doing at all.

[@paulwood1883]

I give up with this team

[@martysmith2851]

Last year, with the players we had and how we played, we were playing more like Ole football, counter attacking with pace, & that's why Rashford hit 30 goals & players like Bruno did well. This year, Ten Hag is trying to play a high press transition style with players like Rashford, Bruno, Garnacho, McT etc who can't 'play football' when we win the ball back high up the pitch, because they don't have the space to counter and run into, and this is also why the midfield is being overrun as he plays attacking midfielders in Bruno & McT who constantly lose the ball high up the pitch. The manager is trying to play a new brand of football with players that suit last season's style & the fact that he is not addressing this, it's where the issues are. Rashford, Bruno, Garnacho, McT are poor when they have to hold onto the ball, keep possession high up the pitch and play through the opposition's block. They can't do it! So they lose the ball, then our midfield is cut through like butter, and it happens time and time again, its a mess. Most of the goals this season has come from Rashford, Garnacho, McT and Højlund breaking at pace (counter attack) That's why you see us play better or more fluid when teams attack us and hold a high-line like Liverpool or Villa, but when we face teams we have to break down, we can't do it.

[@bilborocky2423]

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Absolutely spot on.

[@martysmith2851]

You nailed it with the people in the thumbnail

[@solareclipse1884]

100% this 100% that, everything but the point. United need players that can hold onto possession under pressure or atleast have an IQ to play out intelligent football and make runs. If players think that they can be C. Ronaldo, they are mistaken. Ronaldo played in an era where he was faster than most people who didn't care about athleticism as much. Every player in the league is now faster and fitter and so you simply cannot out run opponents, you have to use your head. That is sadly lacking in many of the current crop of players. You cannot simply beat players with pace and hopeful through balls, the faster players realize this, the better.

[@scottfitzgerald3421]

The shots conceded not being a problem makes sense in a world of xg and stats. A lot of the shots are wild long distances attempts and off memory there’s been maybe 3 max 5 long pinballed goals conceded. The real issue is how much faff and panic that goes on in and around the 6 yard box. Them byline cut backs or corners is where we have conceded all our goals.

[@Stan.k.Phlaps6447]

Who's to blame? The fans. 100%.

[@Horseman5143]

So much of the passing vs Brentford was comedically bad. Inaccurate, wasteful, slow and without conviction. Nothing to do with coaching, that. On the spacing. The plan is clearly to press but it is being executed poorly. Assume that the defence should be stepping up to reduce the spacing but 3 or 4 players are dropping to avoid the ball over the top and being left 1v1 where they lack the recovery pace. Neither one thing nor the other. Maybe thats the tactical mistake. If he's brave and commits to the press, pushes the defence up, will they just get continually done for pace?! You could argue you can't concede more chances than you do currently so why not give it a go ..

[@dessertstorm7476]

Thing about the Brentford game is... as soon as they lost control around 25 mins into the match, I just assumed and knew they would never get back into it. That's the story of the whole season

[@kyle2999]

With regard to foden, I think pep learned a lot from bojan and the fact that he never reached his potential. Garnacho, mainoo, and rasmus are all being overplayed bc we have no one else. I’m hoping that he starts rotating amad and garnacho bc I’m starting to see a lot of people criticizing garnacho and we’re all forgetting that he’s 19.

[@Rondo_and_switch]

We miss you Joe

[@playedout148]

Top 5 is out. Beating Manchester city would be luck as much as anything. So that's ETH out and the players will keep dragging. Line up the next 3 managers.

[@Taporeee]

20:30 - Really good point. The best managers do find a way. SAF had some insane 11s in paper that shouldn't have in theory performed as well as they did. Ten Hag is on very thin ice as he seems to have all the variety you may want but he's not getting a feel for which tactics work best during games.

[@michaelbeesley2955]

Why is it so bad this season? Last season wasn’t great but felt like something was building and apart from the odd game it never felt like we were ever dominated, but this season it’s like every game we are being dominated and the odd game were we turn up. What’s happened?

[@john-xp2ic]

trying to blame any one side is blind the team have proven they will happily throw managers under the bus and on the other side ETH is making some bad decisions so if you blame one you have to blame the other

[@benjporter1511]

I think Ronnie is making some really good points here, I understand Ten Hag has had a rough time with injuries but some of the football is shocking. I dont think its necessarily time for him to go, but the powers above need some good explanations for why its happening like this and what (if anything) hes going to do to change it next season. If they dont think that answer is good enough then I think they have a good enough reason to move on.

[@ryanpitt8671]

8:57 I see that but I also see players who are not good enough or consistent enough

[@B3MadeIt]

Keep playing the way we are playing gonna need alot more than 8 beers.

[@modestasvalancius6207]

Well, we can blame almost everything and everyone: the owners for not giving a toss about the football side of the things, poor board, recruitment and scounting, reactionary fans who want quick results and massive changes at the same time, the players who show no heart, hunger or discipline. Finally, the coach who completely abandoned his style of play and kept picking the same underperforming players over and over again. The truth is - only one of the mentioned parties can be easily replaced. At this moment I'm not sure about Ten Hag's future and whether he's the right man to bring United back to the top. But if he's going after the season, then a large portion of the squad has to go as well - there's just no other way. Sell/replace all the deadwood, bring in some academy players if we have to. I personally can stomach a few years of finishing 8th or lower if it will be enough to lay a solid foundation and build a team with clear identity and structure. Enough of this semi-transitional, counter attacking nonsense. It's getting us nowhere near the top sides.

[@cyrilhyacinth3960]

Ten Hag abandoned his style of play because he doesn't have the players for it. Now he's trying to figure out what suits these players. Now the team looks lost because Ten Hag is trying to figure out something new

[@fatbelly27]

Mainoo is being asked to cotrol the midfield pretty much single handed.

[@ItsssBez]

ronaldo had a shocking performance in this ep tbh

[@LeeCameron-ux2je]

Real content not afraid to speak unlike that Pratt gold bridge I’ll be tuning in here more often!!!

[@ROYALTYtttttt]

He's annoying but will draw you in with his lunacy

[@MR-bq1cy]

Fernandes is a big problem. Bad captain and probably very divisive behind the scenes. Maguire and Rashford want ten hag out which can’t be good either. Ten hag does lack big game awareness, hasn’t taught his team how to defend leads, it’s just play play play and they’re a mess in those situations. Against free flowing teams it works, against more technical teams Man U are a mess. I’m surprised they aren’t further down the table, Brentford, Fulham, wolves, villa, West Ham… all look more mature and better than Man U. IMO ten hag needs to go, Fernandes needs to go, Rashford needs to go.

[@barrykingston7238]

Rashford has suffered from lack of development and because he score goals he has been left behind in improvement in his alround game .

[@TheMancalorian]

All the players are to blame especially defense but yet again they don't seek out the striker. Other teams seek out their striker so why are our wingers and midfielders not doing so.

[@HamzaPKR]

The whole medical team needs an overhaul. Injuries and half fit players has been the story of this season.

[@angzukoavatar4845]

Everybody & everything that should narrow it down.

[@keerthichandra40]

Omg..it feels good to hear that other people felt weird as well when United scored. I felt like guilty too

[@mackinisation]

These players are over rated. They can't play his style because half the team can't keep the ball. Burno just is Mr Hollywood's, Rashford can't keep it,. McTomminay is a ghost so he doesn't even come into it. Garnaco ( he has quality )is learning and sometimes can't keep it. Holjludn gets no service (Ivan Toney has had more shots on goal than him - which is a joke). The defence is slow, so can't push up to cover the midfield gap and most of these players are not his. The players are as much the problem, and I would say even more. They need to go first

[@paulbate4258]

Jay regarding Ange Postecoglu: "I think he speaks English better than most of us..." Do you realise Ange grew up in Australia, which believe it or not, English is the first language?

[@phillipworts5092]

Scott cannot keep starting. That’s on EtH that keeps playing him.

[@Danny-iv5uu]

Comparing ten hag team to Liverpool city and Arteta who are 5 years in is delusional and had issues at first too like Arteta didn’t finish 5,8,8,5 before 2nd. Would’ve been sacked at Utd year 2

[@bobvickers9387]

Ronaldo excellent analysis as usual

[@StanPW88]

Dead on about United making other teams' forward players look like prime Iniesta, R9, or Messi - seems to happen every time we play a team in the bottom half. Players that casual fans had never heard of are suddenly worth 50 million quid!

[@TonyField]

We all know who's to blame

[@MrUdayright]

Fans need to highlight Players power and players problem...if not the cycle continues....Even if u bring Xabi alonso same thing happens...

[@jamesmeek754]

If we play like we did against Brentford we won’t even beat Coventry to get the final

[@zubairmahmood1364]

Owners first obviously then its ten hag who trains these players for last 2 years and then picks the team . Owners and ten hag out now

[@Oscarspoem]

God could not manage this lot. Again the same players will get the guy sacked. Same faces, same players.

[@rana1561]

10:30 United fans are deluded, Brighton is not a team with less resources than Man United. Yes our club had money, but it was never invested in behind the scenes resources, all that money was wasted in making a mismatched squad over the years by a recruitment department that is utterly stupid, and when ten Hag tried to bring in profiles he needed, they wasted money by delaying or buying short term solutions, a recruitment department that couldn't even suggest the profiles ten Hag demanded, they had no clue about a young player that can be a young affordable scouted version of Frenkie or Casemiro or multiple options that they could buy instead of Antony to mention a few examples. He is been forced to rely on players he knew who would be available instead of having a recruitment department that can provide alternative to improve the negotiation power with options, and recruitment is just one aspect, look at the medical department how pathetic they've been, misinformed ten Hag about the left back fitness. United wasted money for a decade and didn't invest a penny in resources and infrastructure.

[@mesoanarchy]

Bravo! Context most often results in a much clearer view of reality!

[@Imbatman257]

Is Ronaldo Brown actually a United fan?

[@chrismillien7601]

I live Ronaldo, if there was a fan channel most improved award he would get it he's grown leaps and bounds. With that being said, how can you complain about how good the strikers are and then not make the connection that our centerbacks are shit or we don't have enough healthy defenders 90% of the time. Should Erick Ten Hag switch to a 4-4-2 and park the bus? We'll get results but then fans will complain about that. Yes the results aren't good enough but you can't change what you do every week. At some point you need to build a system and stick with it. The problem is clearly the recruitment and if Ten Hag gets sacked (with the highest win percentage of any permanent manager in United HISTORY) then its because of the terrible recruitment which has been a problem the last 10 years.

[@bobvickers9387]

ETH has a language problem in press conferences

[@thenomadicfoxtravels]

Finally! Someone talking about Rashford! Are we not allowed to criticize him?! Says who? Because...?! He plays like he doesn't want to be here. Move him on. Time for him to rebuild his career somewhere else. PSG or wherever. Why isn't ETH not play him? Bench him until end of the season. Done. His attitude sucks. I get that he does a lot for the community outside of football but that doesn't mean he can't put a shift in. Play with some passion. Pass to the striker. His skin color the least interesting thing about him. Nobody cares. If the gaffer got rid of Sancho for bad behavior, he can sit Rashford and not play him anymore. He can't be relied on for once in every few months! The Liverpool game was the best moment of the season but that's it. And I'm done defending the coach. Just done. Injuries aside, I doubt Ineos want him for their project. But if they bring Southgate, I'm out. I'll say it every time, massive overhaul of the roster. Sell and get rid of at least 8 players. Bruno isn't safe either. If the right heft offer comes, sell him.

[@MrUdayright]

Why would a top best manager comes here anymore if we sack ETH...they knew very well it's a players power club and inefficient Board and owners.

[@ryanpitt8671]

Is it regression or is it the fact the new manager bounce wore off ?

[@Danny-iv5uu]

Conceding lots of shots but still 4th best defense in the league? Best defense in the league last year yet de gea was constantly criticized. Fans believe whatever agenda Media puts out and they lap it up like they do terminologies like pressing,low block etc like it’s new and not just ‘closing down’ and ‘sitting back’ terms we’ve used for a generation

[@danbarrett5594]

Ten Hag in his 1st season finished 3rd and won a trophy he was the right guy then 🙄

[@Voodootiger]

At this point i would trade villa for their manager

[@yorkshirelad1050]

Yeah…..he did well at Arsenal

[@Busterman28]

So the performances have been the same for years: inconsistent, lazy, heartless. Only thing that has changed is the manager, but we keep rewarding the same players with massive contracts? Lads we’ve got players from LVG, Jose, Ole era in the squad, but we want them to play like Erik wants. How about instead of pretending to criticize the players, you actually call them out? “Elite managers make do with what they’ve got” Klopp didn’t have success until he got Salah, VVD, Allison in, pep needed like 6 new players each window. Swear you lot are as clueless as Souness sometimes smh

[@rana1561]

38:38 they way Ajax team that won 3 titles was a direct reflection of ten Hag's personality? What an idiotic remark, and the fact people fall for it. Yes the imprint is present because the club had sensible people recruiting according to the manager's needs at the rightly priced contracts, and that too took time. This recruitment department can't do it for any manager.

[@joeberesford5015]

Um... Glazers out?

[@thenomadicfoxtravels]

Why can't ETH drop Rashford? Because of ...? Will trashford cry rrrracsim? He had balls with Sancho, he should've dropped Rashford ages ago! Mctominay is bench player never a starter. You got wingers who won't pass to the striker and care only for themselves....need massive overhaul and rebuild.

[@Parky_1712]

I like how Ronaldo wants to excuse the academy players that started against Brentford (Rashford and McTominay especially) because it doesn't suit his argument

[@westhillsmike9511]

Ten Hag may be the right coach but just at the wrong time for United.

[@philtsang2818]

Same shit, different day

[@user-qx4zl9vz6u]

Only if they do none alcohol I bet they don't

[@5on-of-Fire]

Easy… 19 years of Glazers… poor recruitment.. poor attitudes.. it’s gonna take time to turn this around. Patience.

[@garethdeere4822]

No midfield and the players have given up yet again. Ralf abondoned his plan after one game because these players we have don't want to anything but slow walking football.

[@user-gv5sw2ih7p]

The fact that your asking exactly the same question that's asked of every single utd manager speaks volumes of this club. Its the players stupid, and the biggest culprit is the utd poster boy who's just been given a new contract......💤💤💤🙊

[@mesoanarchy]

Wrong. Start at the top. Work down from there. You’ll see compromise at every level to support ONE goal - to line the Glazers’ pockets.

[@Dieselfu]

Either the manager or the players are to blame. If the manager is not good enough, then Mourinho, Van Gaal, Moyes, Ollie, Rangnick, and Ten Hag are just as incompetent.