Who's to blame for the RV Industry decline?

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[@TheBaldEagle]

I tried it and it wasn’t for me… at least not yet. I couldn’t figure it all out.

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[@KoDeMondo]

Liz the problem is not the rising prices but the devaluation of US Dollar.. In fact people always seem to think that prices are rising without considering that is the dollar loosing purchasing power.

[@billyjohnson9166]

The problem is there’s no lemon law. Bring in a lemon law and everything will change. The RV industry needs to be policed.

[@christophergilbert2306]

Agree.

[@LizAmazing]

Here's my video about the state and national lemon laws for RVs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6XRm6uloc-Bl5Y

[@whereyougoiwillgorving4492]

The problem with Lemon laws is the manufacturers have lobbied and lined the pockets of politicians in states that already had pretty good laws and now the laws favor the manufacturers ! ? Follow the money.... Louisiana for example...

[@stanmarcusgtv]

the UCC governs thru Magnuson Moss - people don't understand that manufacturer warranties are largely efforts to circumscribe what the UCC & Magnuson Moss gives the buyer and much of what manufacturers put in there like venue for disputes is there to fool the purchaser and cannot be enforced due to the UCC & Magnuson Moss

[@stickbogart3657]

👍👍. Billy, anybody that has a lemon law issue regarding RVs can hire a lemon law lawyer. There are law lawyers all over the country that would pick up a legitimate lemon law case about a new RV I am an expert witness in the RV industry, and I know what I’m saying is true. 👍👍

[@richardsprow3418]

Liz, I think the overall problem is the private equity groups taking over the RV industry. I suggest make a chart of when Thor Industries began buying up Airstream, Jayco, Dutchman etcc and I think you will see those dates match with when buyers say quality began to decline. Private equity buys companies, loads them up with debt, then demands cost cutting. We have seen that in other industries. I think you are also right about lack of foreign competition for these bulky, expensive products.

[@LizAmazing]

I think that's a very good point. Now they are trying to please the investors instead of the customers. Thanks for watching, Richard.

[@richardsprow3418]

@@LizAmazing I will bet that if you make the chart you can show clearly that as Thor bought others a wave of lower quality swept the industry.

[@richardsprow3418]

@@LizAmazing google “ history of thor industries”. In 1980 they bought Airstream from Beatrice Foods, then ever since they bought a dozen bus and RV makers, probably 20 different brands. Could be why people say ‘classic’ old Airstream and older Jayco, Keystone, etcc were better.

[@raygunsforronnie847]

Uh... You must have missed the memo, but Thor Industries is a publicly traded stock corporation, as is REV Group and Winnebago.

[@richardsprow3418]

@@raygunsforronnie847 oops, you are correct on that. But my guess on the larger point is the same: user comments on declining quality seem to follow the pattern of many previous manufacturers being folded into Thor.

[@larrykirkpatrick7458]

I agree with you Liz, all problems start at the top from managment. A worker can only put together what managment puts in his hands. Love the park where you are, looks like tons of fun. See you next time.

[@TKnEarl]

Absolutely! 100 percent!

[@michaelguyda9507]

And the employees/workers will pay the price for greed/ mismanagement!!!

[@TKnEarl]

@@michaelguyda9507 Always do!

[@bryanmathew2079]

Way WAY DEEP'R Than That VERY CORDINATED, Like The Thousands 😮Getting Stomach Viruses on = "On" Cruise Ships, FOr 3 - 4 Years Before pppPLandemic😢

[@crimestoppers1877]

A fish rots from the head down.

[@peterkettelkamp7162]

Keep it up, Liz! Social media is the great equalizer in this situation. The RV manufacturers will not be able to ignore their customers and continue with the status quo. We are soon going to purchase a larger RV. We will certainly avoid the current junk being thrown together. Thanks for all you are do for our community!

[@LizAmazing]

Yay, thank YOU for your support, Peter. Be sure to consider buying used, do your research and get an inspection. Happy RV shopping! Thanks for watching.

[@rudiwiedemann8173]

When a nice RV in 2018 that cost $35K now costs over $100K for junk, I’m keeping my powder dry and just not buying. I suspect I’m not the only one with this opinion.

[@damiion666]

Keeping your white powder dry?

[@einarquay]

Advice: find an Airstream from the early 1990s. Refurbish the floors and fabrics. Have fun with it.

[@markmancuso8769]

Thor Industries bought’em all up and flushed quality down the🚽

[@marginbuu212]

Agreed. Thor Industries, like Amazon, needs to be broken up. This goes along with the comment about not having any foreign competition.

[@stanmarcusgtv]

Berkshire Hathaway too- that's what it does by concentrating the industry and they plan it that way. Drives down competition while driving up profits.

[@dougdoris8622]

Interesting that the overall quality of RV’s is related to the price of the components and the materials used to make RV’s. People don’t want to pay the price to make high quality RV’s. So the industry gives them what they want, very cheap and low quality. Not sure why you are so surprised.

[@Sunny-kn6th]

@@dougdoris8622well, folks are recognizing the low quality and not buying. RV sales have dropped dramatically in the last couple of years.

[@thethirdgeneration1738]

But, the thing is, "This stuff is not always very cheap! They are selling it for high Inflationary prices! as if it's high quality!" That's the big joke. And, that's what's happening to everything across this country. Everything is being ruined! For the sake of making Shareholders, Billionaires, Stockholders meg-wealthy. Hence, the term Greedy Capitalist.@@dougdoris8622

[@DeLaSoul246]

Several years ago I did think you went a little *too* easy on the RV industry. You would of course point out issues, but typically in the context of individual solutions. But I am tickled to see you go toe to toe with the industry as a whole. Even though I decided to go with a tiny house instead, I still do business with the RV industry and to say they cut corners would be a *massive* understatement lol thanks, Liz! I appreciate you also for defending the workers too. The executives define the supplies, the timeline, and the quality control, among many other things. Let's not throw the workers under the Class A motorhome!

[@caniacstevehenderson7115]

Greed, very very poor quality control by management...and I'll inform customers 😮 Have a great weekend LiZ !!! 😊

[@user-sj1kw9yz6x]

You’re correct on the profit side of the equation. It’s not just RVs it’s everything. Our disposable society has creeped into every aspect of our lives. This absurd greed was accelerated during Covid. Our recourse as consumers is to not buy until you are satisfied that your money is being spent wisely. Thanks for your vids Liz. 😊

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you for watching, I so appreciate you being here!

[@johnharbaugh9471]

After owning two Entegra Anthems (2014 & 2017), we viewed a 2024. No more tile floor, no more hard wood cabinets, no passenger window to open, the driver window that opens is half the size. Closet no more cedar lining, no shoe storage, and the washer/dryer stack is over the toilet. To say that Thor has "cheapened" Entegra is an understatement.

[@xmavrick]

I agree there is no competition when 2 or 3 companies own about 90% of the RV brands and large retails like Camping World dominate the sales and service portion of the market. Poor service and build quality seem to go hand in hand with monopolies, if this business model continues consumers will stop buying RVs and the industry will fold!

[@TKnEarl]

More competition is definitely needed, especially competition with higher quality standards.

[@bryanmathew2079]

They Need That Project Farm Guy Testing RV'S From 😮Start To 😊Finish, 4 Proper QuaLity ControL

[@trooperrn]

That has been our problem, Dealing with Thor and Camping World@@bryanmathew2079

[@drecksaukerl]

Point well taken, but in the long run, the joke will be on the quasi monopoly running the industry. If they keep building junk because there's no competition, people will look to alternatives to RVs, which are, after all, a luxury for those that are not full timers. Airbnb, condo rentals, vacation homes are all alternatives to junk RVs that cost as much as houses.

[@Despiser25]

BS. Three companies does not a monopoly make silly indoctrinated Marxist. When your competition makes crap an easy alternative is to make things less crap. The real problem is the Socialist Left has Fee'd and regulated RVs into oblivion. The only monopoly are the Socialists that run your Govt and regulate RVs.

[@johnpossible6292]

Liz you need to keep this up so maybe the manufacturers start producing quality over quantity

[@Wolfkiller24]

People are buying more rvs today. I watch a couple rv tubers. 1 for 4 yrs. He's on his 3rd rv. I bought mine in 2017 it's been great. And will probably be the only 1 I ever buy.

[@Despiser25]

Thanks to our Socialist Govt we dont get quality anymore we get fee's regulations and and junk. Socialism destroys.

[@andyjones2261]

My brother-in-law lives and bought an RV in Scotland. It's 8 yrs old and never had a problem to date. It's a Class B built on a Fiat chassis.

[@smosh91]

here that would be a ProMaster conversion!

[@ChatGPT1111]

That's interesting because UK vehicles generally rank very low in owner satisfaction and require constant repairs. Scotland is the poorest area of the UK.

[@vapoet]

Build quality on a Fiat chassis? Amazing! Of course it is pre-covid and likely wasn't pushed out the factory so quickly.

[@andyjones2261]

@@vapoet Pre-covid is a big factor. There's a guy...Matt's RV reviews...who went to an RV show in Dusseldorf Germany...it's interesting.

[@vapoet]

@@andyjones2261 I got very annoyed at the last RV shows I've been to. These days it's either a massive 5th wheel or 13 foot teardrop. The 3000-3500 lbs 20 footers aren;t being placed before potential customers.

[@warrenscorner]

Every RV owner should tour the Elkhart factories. We went to Jayco, Grand Design, and Keystone. The only factory that had a tour while production was in operation was Jayco. The workers hustled like they were on piece work, which they probably are. I remember my days of working in a factory. Management always pushed for more production. We just bought a Ford Transit cargo van. We’ll see if we can do better than the RV industry at building a camper.

[@geod3589]

I worked in a mobile home factory and we made both single and double wides. There were 8 assembly stations from the frame work through final finish. Employees were constantly pushed to get at least 3 complete homes out the door each day. Managers got on the intercom barking orders at people to work faster. Workers themselves were basically casual labor types, no education beyond high school, if they made it that far.. paid minimum wage. They had no future there and didn't give an F about anything, they knew they'd work there a year or two and move on. I felt sorry for those who bought them, probably saw a real nice model home at a dealership all set up, decorated, etc. After becoming interested in RV'ing and studying, I have come to the conclusion RV's are no different in the construction process.

[@wjohn214]

There is no regulation, that's the biggest problem. Keep pushing the Independent RV Inspection, it is so important. Keep up the good work Liz!

[@MetalTeamster]

Regulation? You want more Government? What?

[@cherylpage7415]

So glad you have made these eye opening videos! Thank you

[@bertkelly7650]

I just got back from a show and was shocked to see how everything was made so cheaply. I understand making rigs light, but to sacrifice integrity and longevity to lightness is wrong and a rip off. Thanks Liz!

[@LizAmazing]

I know. It's very shortsighted to do this. They'll ruin their reputation if their products keep falling apart. Thanks for watching.

[@monicalifornia_]

Thanks so much for all of your videos. We’re no longer on the road but every now and then I get the bug. This is a good reminder of “be warned”

[@starhopper59]

You couldn’t pay me enough to get into the RV life right now. Too risky, too expensive, and too many horror stories of poorly constructed vehicles. I simply won’t throw my money away on something that is so full of uncertainty.

[@garyp9906]

Hi LIz, Gary from Kansas here! Always looking forward to a new video each week! You are 100% correct. It's not the workers, it the management. They just need better quality control when they put these things out. Have a good week and see you on your next video, girl!

[@embraceyourescape]

What is wrong with the RV industry? The RV industries greed (not all companies, but 75% of them) and cutting corners to please shareholders. In the end shareholders want to see profit and that profit has to come. The easiest cost cutting for companies with a bad future plan for reputation is to cheap out on quality material and quality control. Thanks for the video and a big hello from our KZbin channel to you!

[@russellstewart5414]

Consumers have to take some of the blame, wanting high end finishes and not wanting to spend more. Companies cheap out and use junk that looks expensive but doesn’t hold up. Sometimes going for simplicity can go farther and make a better product and experience for the consumer. It’s just a thought

[@lawrencedavidson6195]

I'd never buy an RV. I will rather convert a boxtruck myself for a whole lot less.

[@WheelTek86]

Liz you hit the nail on the head about many of us are willing to pay for quality built RV that does cost more than $500K. I cant believe I would have to spend that much and still might get a mediocre build quality. I swear my next coach will be an older Prevost type unit.

[@LizAmazing]

I've heard good things about those Prevosts! And also check out Foretravel. Happy shopping and thanks for being here!

[@10lauset]

Just like Boeing.....rush, rush, rush; damn QC, just get them out. Workers always worry about their work, they have pride until browbeaten by management. Cheers to you LIZ.

[@Stephen-kl9wu]

Excellent comment.

[@Despiser25]

Just like every industry. Look at a McDonalds cheeseburger for gods sake. It costs 3x more and is half the size. This is what Socialism ALWAYS does to industry.

[@bernecomp]

​@@Despiser25 Pure, unrestrained capitalism is more like it.

[@Despiser25]

@@bernecomp America hasn't had Capitalism since that Socialist named FDR rammed his Fascist New Deal up Americas arse in 1933. After he purposefully broke the economy, lol. We need to try real capitalism again silly indoctrinated Socialist. In capitalism Corporation make the things the consumer wants. In Socialist Commie/Fascism the Govt dictates to the Corporation the things they will make and sell using excuses like "climate changes too much."

[@Despiser25]

@@bernecomp Capitalists dont need to CENSOR other people like youtube does.

[@danrandall794]

Miss Liz nailed it!! It's not the workers it is management. So correct. I had a boating buddy that upgraded to a new 25 foot family cruiser. We did one of our weekends up the the Apostle Islands in Lake Superior. After we got them off the trailers we headed out to one of the islands. Now granted it was a little lumpy on the lake but that means you go slow. The boat might rock and roll but no hard jolts. We got to the island and he opened his cabin door and his galley assemble had totally come off the wall. If I remember correctly there was only six small screws holding it on. That is not workers that is management. Thanks for the update on what you have been doing. Looks like a fun place. Congrats on 110!!

[@SpykersB]

You apply for the job then don’t lie saying u can do the job. Or is it u apply for the job and are being told they will train u on the job but don’t? Which is it? 🤔🍻

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for your support, Dan, and for sharing that story about the boat. Definitely more QC is needed everywhere!!

[@danrandall794]

You make it very easy to support.

[@hottuna7]

But screws are soo expensive! lol

[@danrandall794]

That IS funny. Didn't see much of this in the boating world unlike the RV world.

[@kellychuba]

Rule number one for a better American life: stop blaming victims.

[@Mike-te1xx]

Thanks Liz, keep up the good work..

[@LizAmazing]

You're welcome Mike! Have a great weekend and thanks for watching.

[@johnclements8549]

Liz, Thank you for your continued RV support videos!

[@LizAmazing]

You are so welcome, John, I am glad you are here!

[@leolaniukeulady4172]

Good for you. We need quality back in all areas of life.

[@michelpaulcote156]

I live in Quebec, Canada. Had a Tiffin class A, now a LTV unity 2020. Daughter had a few class Cs, now a 26 foot trailer. I repair RVs. I understand an saw the lack of quality in recent years. The equipment used is still pretty much the same and is quide reliable. The materials used (cheap plywood) and the construction/ assembly is now terrible. At the end of the day, management / owners are responsible for the final product. The problem: extremely difficult to sue them, including the dealer. Since 5 years ago, they have included clauses in their contract that make it impossible to sue. Even the manufacturer has to be sued in Indiana, no where else. Laws have to change to stop this practice. Luckily in Canada we can easily use the Consumer's small claims court No lawyer, 6 months wait on average, 20,000$ maximum, judge decision is final and public. It solves 90% of the issues as no dealer wants his name associated to a public judgment. In the last 30 years, I used it 5-6 times and the seller / dealer always settled before going to court. Courts and regulation are the solution because the represent $$$ for the dealers and manufacturers.

[@bchlvrbob]

Liz, been following your channel a while now, and your content is spot-on. Your exposure of inequities in RV quality is a far cry from the channels giving tours of the "junk". Wonder how long it will take viewers to tire of that endless misleading content? Thank you for the great info, keep up the good work! I too full time in my 2005 Monaco Diplomat now for 2 1\2 years and I love it, even though most travels are alone. I opted for the Thousand Trails deal with a home based in NC where I have a covered space. The motel examples do not fly. I had to get a hotel for me and my dog for four days while I had paint work done, and the inconvenience is remarkable. For me that's A last resort.

[@charlottelavalette8236]

At it again Liz. You Rock , keep going and enjoy your travels🐼

[@leosmith4293]

Check out Northwood RV and Outdoors RV, both based in LaGrande, OR. They both are independent RV manufacturers that build their own frames and build quality travel trailers, truck campers, and fifth wheels.

[@LizAmazing]

I've been hearing good things about them. Thank you so much!

[@barrytimm5497]

The best quality I've ever seen are Oliver trailers. But they are far too small for many of us. Huge pity, as I would love one, but can't manage their tiny size. 8' wide and another 4" taller and I would own one!!!

[@ceciliapetrowsky2572]

We have a Northwood fifth wheel. No problems at all for seven years. Built like a tank.

[@whereyougoiwillgorving4492]

Actually Outdoor RV buys their frames from Northwood...

[@squidreuel]

I have an 2020 Outdoors 24rks, i didn't look at the price i wanted quality, and i know RVs. Minor expected issues but its definitely solid, i recommend every one look at the Outdoors

[@robertroth287]

Good video with many key points. Personally, I INTENSELY dislike the argument in defense of RV manufacturers that RVs are "rolling earthquakes on wheels". RV engineers should be building them to account for life on and off the highway. Can you imagine if this argument was used in the aviation industry? "The plane crashed due to turbulence....get over it"

[@LizAmazing]

Exactly this! Thanks for your comment, Robert.

[@bethannperkins-simmons4793]

Well done Liz! You continue to adapt to the industry and appreciate the focus you are giving to quality and customer service within the RV industry.

[@bernardszirth9665]

As always Liz, I thank you for all the insight and for one we can see that older is better/wiser to keep!

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you so much Bernard! Have a great weekend!

[@33Jenesis]

Until the tv parks refuse to let you in due to the age of your rig lol

[@user-im1dq1rq6d]

After watching some of your videos< I would never ,ever buy an R/V.-They are all junk and if it isn't broken now its just a short amount of time before the roof leaks, the sllde won't go out or come back in, the plumbing is leaking, the frame is cracked or flexing, the suspension is falling apart, the floor is sinking, the microwave doesn't work, the walls have mold, the wallpaper is coming off, and this is from 100k to 300k R/V's bought brand new.

[@johnmeyer5496]

I am replacing a dometic fridge that is four years old and from day one has never worked period, I troubleshoot this with every possible fix non worked, so now am replacing with a home unit electric only, upon removal I discovered there was supposed to be two bottom screws on the back side…and guess what no screws were installed by the manufacturer….this is exactly what the manufacturers should be bringing their quality back to the build …but I won’t hold my breath.

[@macbook802]

Alot of problems are user caused. You should watch KZbin videos on certain products that you don't understand

[@tuvia4082]

Thanks Liz, great content. Big brands buying up smaller ones, big dealerships buying up smaller ones (you know who they are), lack of competition, and lastly, corporate greed. A one year warranty could translate to one or two months for people who are seasonal. Buy used, get an inspection and figure you'll trade it off in a couple of years. Stay safe out there.

[@glampinggram3361]

So informative, thank you for doing these videos.

[@deborahgarrison4349]

As always, great info fairly said. Thank you for putting ultimate responsibility on management, so very true on everything. The expose on warranty is eye opening. So much to think about and your input has kept me encouraged and looking forward to the right rig. 💕this series!

[@LizAmazing]

Yay, thank you for being here, Deborah. Have a nice weekend.

[@SimarDesign]

Naaah the real reason is what happened to German car manufacturers, Carhartt, Boing and so many others... They are falling because they want to maximize profits, "managers" are leading not engineers. That s it.

[@robertthomas5590]

You are doing an awesome service by providing this challenge to the industry. Thanks for sharing.

[@DavesPropertieseXpSA]

Well done Liz - you are an amazing KZbinr - change is done by just one person standing up to corporations who think that they can make money without consequences to bad or poor products. Thank you on behalf of the RV community. Thanks to the RV manufacturers who make fantastic products, in any manufacturing process there can be a dud, but not continuously, and then they need to take responsibility to repair no issues.

[@renodowns5256]

I like to see lemon laws on the RVs

[@LizAmazing]

I did a video on the state and national lemon laws for RVs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6XRm6uloc-Bl5Y

[@specag31]

Lemon laws exist in some states but they find ways to help the dealers, you must be a resident, etc. My Thor Scallawag, I mean Sanctuary was in the shop in a different state so AG office turned down my Lemon Law complaint. Money talks, consumers walks.

[@terrysmith7076]

Great information Liz thank you very much for the heads up.

[@CallieCarter145]

We have a 2020 Keystone Outback that sees a lot of use. We do keep it clean and very well maintained and so far it has performed flawlessly for us!

[@ingridbond3432]

once again, exceptional work/presentation, Liz, all the best

[@waltermycroft1560]

Great for people like you. Thank You for what you do. Thank You from my heart. You're doing what all other KZbinrs are not doing. Academy Awards to you

[@kimkrebs451]

Thank You for sharing Liz!! The information is great

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much Kim!! Have a great weekend!

[@kimkrebs451]

@@LizAmazing you’re welcome and you too!

[@blujeans9462]

I changed my mind about RVing full - or even part time - after watching yours (and a few others) reality videos a few years back. I knew I didn't have what it takes (lack of mechanical knowledge, the size of my dogs - lol, etc). It seemed like the ideal life until I started watching videos about what it is really like. But I'm still hooked on your videos (the only RV channel I still follow and totally enjoy!) - but I am so grateful I did not buy one when I planned to. But what you are doing to the industry is nothing short of "amazing" (lol - ;-). You are an incredible lady - with a ton of moxie and grit - and I am so impressed with your tenacity: righting the wrongs and shouting from the rooftops about those that still have the right ethics. Amazing!! All the very best!

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, thanks for saying so. Glad you thought it through before giving it a try. And thanks again SO MUCH for cheering me on!

[@zanthornton]

Thank you for CAPTIONing. Also thanks for truthfulness

[@madcat7574]

Thanks for all the videos!! I'm a weekend camper during spring through fall season. I dont move my grand design so I don't have alot of issues I hear others have. Plus mine is a 2014

[@LizAmazing]

Ooh, if you have a 2014, hang on to that. I hear they were built like a tank! Thanks for watching.

[@patrickmckowen2999]

Great update 👍

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks Patrick, hugs to you!

[@TDhippie]

Great info 👍

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you, so glad you are here!

[@randylee2413]

You nailed it as always . My 2003 still going original everything roof , steel floor all appliances . Fleetwood motor home 31H no slides . I can't believe it knock on wood

[@Bubba-wx7lp]

Old mechanic. They were built heavier materials+ definably heavier frames 20+ yrs ago. Problem is,everyone wants to have lighter trailers,for example,to pull with SUVs+ lighter trucks. You can't have it both ways. Not to mention, everything is computer controlled now. Nothing but cascading problems High tech does not mean better,but that's what people think.

[@jamiecosgrove1950]

i worked at fleetwood motorhomes in riverside, ca for almost 20 yrs. quality was always #1 on our minds. everything was checked and rechecked before it went out the door. and they got better every year.

[@clintprice2123]

Your videos are always well done!

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, thanks so much, Clint!

[@pupcamper58]

Thanks for all you do Liz ❤

[@bigwill4937]

Thanks for what you're doing. We decided last fall to buy our RV this spring. The one we have been dreaming about for years, to travel and enjoy retirement. In light of all of the quality issues uncovered by you and a few other channels, we have changed our mind. It may take a year or two for things to turn around. We refuse to settle! Thanks again, Liz

[@jimkempton5568]

Keep up the good work Liz.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks, Jim! So glad you are here! Have a great weekend!

[@patricklanigan]

I am a professional mechanic who works in bus fleet maintenance, I do not own an RV, but my parents and a brother have in the past, so I am not a complete stranger to the RV industry. First let me say bravo to Liz for having this channel to educate people. Second, the quality decline is larger than the RV industry, it is affecting the bus industry as well, and I suspect other things too such as the home construction industry too. In the last year I have seen several bush league mistakes on new buses. Simple things like asymmetrical installation of required lights, loose hose clamps, to major things like bellhousing to engine block bolts left finger tight that caused the failure of a flex plate at 3000km, or improperly bled brakes.

[@mtd94556]

Great information about the 10 year rule ! Thanks 👍

[@raoulroberts]

Thank you for your advocacy, Liz. Such work may be unwelcomed in some quarters and by some folks, but if done honestly, fairly, and consistently, even the naysayers will come to respect your efforts. Keep 'em honest!😊

[@H.pylori]

Thanks! Great presentation, good advice.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you much, sure appreciate your support!

[@user-yv4lb6uq6w]

Thank you that was some good information

[@HydianWay]

Liz, I just watched the first minute and 37 seconds of this video so far, but you are on point so far.

[@4940markhutchins]

Great channel Liz! I like to think I dodged the current industry failures when we bought a 2006 Holiday Rambler Vacationer ("Gus the Bus") in 2022 that was well taken care of and with few miles on the front end gas engine. There is upkeep of course, but that is the case with the newer RVs as well. We lived and traveled in our motorhome full-time for 6 months, and we are preparing to do that again this summer. I am also updating some of the interior finishes and furniture when time allows. Owning a motorhome is nothing like owning a car. You have to know it, know the systems and how they work and what to do when problems arise. Its been a learning curve, we made mistakes, but thanks to channels like yours, we are getting much more comfortable with it and it increases our confidence and enjoyment of Gus.

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, thanks for saying this, Gus. And hang onto that classic, it sounds like a good one.

[@magnum12pm]

Look forward to your videos every week Liz, you keep it up!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for your support! Have a great weekend!

[@richardross7219]

Very good video. You give great advice. My truck/camper needs a new truck. I checked out new trucks. They are grossly over priced and ugly. I decided that as soon as the weather gets warm, I will start fixing up my 1985 Chevy. I'll do a working truck restoration and save over $50,000. The RV industry is very bad now. The best tactic is to buy used. I car/camped in my old Chevy wagon in 1973. Still got lots of good memories from that one. Happy Travels. Good Luck, Rick

[@cowgirlval5216]

Schoolies are still looking great! Thank you Liz for bringing the best!❤

[@LizAmazing]

They are looking better all the time! Thanks for watching, Val!

[@donmcmillan4388]

Newly retired looking to get into camping scene. Thanks for your honesty and full disclosure.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you for being here, and congratulation on your retirement!

[@cherjohnson5807]

Thank You Liz‼️

[@grayfox9911]

Good for you! Stick with it!! Yes'm, an inspection is critical... NNTR

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you so much, glad to have you here. Have a great weekend!

[@OnyxandChico]

I dont even plan to get an RV but Liz is amazing. Strong commentary and presentation.

[@LizAmazing]

Yay! Thanks for being here, Joe! Here's my brand new video, see you there: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIurh3dpq61qodk

[@stayoffthemarbles6790]

Thank you for your videos. We have been looking into a trailer, but we are holding off or waiting to find a solid, older, trailer. All the best

[@1983thunderbird]

My last two toyhauler campers where absolute junk! (FR XLR 3016 and a FR XLR 24HFS) nothing but problems and they where both pre-covid!. I finally resorted to building my own from a cargo trailer and sure am glad I did.

[@averageguy1261]

You're a straight talker. Great job!

[@melodygrandinetti5016]

Thanks Liz its because of you and those like you are standing up to the RV industry yea Liz

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for your support, Melody!

[@desidreamers]

Thanks Liz! I have been watching your videos for a really long time. I learned so much about problems with full time RVing! No wonder why it’s in decline. So much money and time to the maintenance and wear&tear! I like airstream more and low maintenance trailers.

[@LizAmazing]

If you get an Airstream, definitely find out when the problems started. I think you want to buy pre- 2014. The owners forums will give you lots of good info. And thanks for being here through thick and thin, and for your kind words!

[@jbuelman2025]

I have a 2020 travel trailer that for the most part has been decent, however the window in the slideout was leaking water onto the floor unbeknownst to me and the wife. Having two chairs in that spot hid the issue and upon cleaning up this season, I noticed the floor (OSB) was water logged at the back corner. I get OSB for roof decking in a house as mine was built in 2005 and the wood is in great shape, but using anything but marine plywood or a rot resistant plywood in a slide out is crappy. This trailer is an Ultra-lite so there isn't a lot of wood in it (supposedly)...

[@denisekyle6603]

We have an old RV , had to do extensive repairs on both the front end and back end! Lots of leaking and rot , so grateful we did it! We love the older styles, warm colours , the couch and furniture is going strong, everything else in the rv is strong, hate the condo feel of the new ones , love the cabin feel of older ones

[@LizAmazing]

Yes indeed!!! Same here with my 2005 motorhome! Thanks for watching and happy travels

[@Coleen_West]

Great to see you back in force Liz! -- QUESTION -- We are getting close to buying our RV... love your Alpha, esp. with the paint, and also Beavers of similar size. Would you be able to do an in detail review with close ups of the "dreaded" paint bubles/spots so we can see if it is such an issue -- our feeling is it is not a big deal especially since we can''t see them on yours. But would love to see the good and bad, if that is not embarrassing to you. Love the show Liz and your honesty. So nice to see!

[@carloscardona6964]

Thank you Liz...

[@Knuckledragnation]

Liz thank you for explaining the good, the bad and the ugly within the Rv world. It’s nice to see someone looking out for us little guys. ✌🏽

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so very much!!

[@rhondameyers1632]

Wow - keep up with the content. You certainly have opened an avenue for people sharing their experiences and suggestions for the industry. I agree with one of the comments made, have a lemon law for RV manufacturers - not just a one or two year warranty.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much Rhonda, I so appreciate your support.

[@missouritravelers]

I have a 2020 forest river the dealer also has a new maintenance building for fixing all the small things

[@allanwarmflash4440]

well said good info safe travels from Galveston

[@TheSteelerider]

We’ve had 2 Grand Design Trailers. No problems with either, and we’ve towed them around the country.

[@mariaejasso5115]

I agree with you, it is not the workers that are to blame for poor-quality workmanship on RVs. Top management is to blame.

[@carrief7342]

Liz, I like your advice about buying used instead of new. 🥰

[@joygarrett8397]

Thanks for all you do Liz! I’d say another issue on the dealer side . . too many salespeople don’t even camp & don’t know their units & don’t know how to educate & help people select the best rig. ALSO poorly trained service staff!!

[@SpykersB]

lol, that too 👍🏼🍻

[@LizAmazing]

Yes. I could do endless videos on bad dealers!!! Thanks for watching, Joy. Have a good weekend.

[@oldmanrock7542]

Thank you for all your hard work. I see you flashing that ring. Enjoy life.

[@LizAmazing]

Yes, it REALLY showed up when I was sitting down like that. Yes, life is SO good right now. Big hugs to you and enjoy life as well.

[@Stephen-kl9wu]

God bless you, Liz. You're doing yeoman work -- plus you're very pleasant to look at and watch. Thank you!

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you so very much, I sure appreciate your support and kind words, Stephen.

[@chrisdavies1288]

Well done you. What you are doing is spot on. We live in England and have had motorhomes between 2003 and 2011 and never had a problem with firstly a Swift and secondary a Hymer. At 70 we have just brought a VW california ocean and it has 5 years warranty, 5 years servicing, 5 years breakdown cover in uk and Europe for no extra cost. I agree totally with your point you need foreign motorhome builders in the US. All the best Chris D

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for weighing in Chris. And cheers to you from across the pond.

[@laurakilmer8652]

I do appreciate you commenting on my comments. You are REALLY making a difference. That a good point about the car industry in the 70s That when Nissan and Toyota really sold like crazy because they were reliable. ( and US Auto were not ) You are becoming legendary Liz !!!

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, thanks Laura!!

[@Lt.Hikes0329]

My wife and I have owned two RV’s, a 2013 travel trailer and a 2019 Class C Entegra Esteem. The Esteem was a well built coach. We sold it last year to a couple who were specifically looking for a 2019 or older, due to quality issues with new models. We are currently in market for Class B+ on a van chassis. The prices for new / used Class B+ RV’s is outrageous! Based on the prices and quality issues we have decided to wait.

[@LizAmazing]

I don't blame you one bit on that. Thanks for your comment, and for watching.

[@happydays8171]

Watched your video on a Thor RV. I drive by a Thor plant in Wakarusa IN, It's closed, and huge.

[@Jims-VanLife]

I've been pretty happy with PleasureWay class B vans - very well built. I have an E-350 chassis with the 5.4L gas motor. At 100,000 miles it still doesn't burn or leak a drop of oil.

[@LizAmazing]

I had a friend who had one and she was very happy as well. Thanks for sharing this, and for watching.

[@sarahann530]

That has nothing to do with PleasureWay

[@Rejoicewithsinging]

I was just at the Rv show in Harrisburg PA and really liked the pleasure-way plateau XLTS 2024…. Thanks for this comment which raises my confidence level before I sell the farm and purchase the RV…

[@brianpollard3500]

Hi Liz, Good topic. Needed to be addressed for along time. Good job and keep those important videos coming. Maybe are patches will cross sometime.

[@LizAmazing]

Yep, thanks Brian. Have a great weekend!

[@brianpollard3500]

👍

[@kathyline11]

Hi Liz, I really think you're making a difference!!

[@LizAmazing]

It sure feels like it! Thanks for your support, Kathy.