Who should play Marvel's Fantastic Four?

[@retrohero2762]

I want Johnny Storm to be casted close to Tom Holland's age. I'd love to see Johnny and Peter Parker's friendship in the movies

[@minhhuonginh3105]

Yeah, they have the arguably longest bromance in Marvel history.

[@vagabond070]

that's a great idea 💡

[@thwipkid]

And I still think you could make this work with an age difference between someone around Blunt’s age and Holland’s, just use the blip as a reason for why they could potentially be 10-15 years apart, with Johnny having been snapped and Sue having survived, this potentially would also factor into why Sue and Reed are so much more mature in terms of personality compared to Ben and Johnny, Reed and Sue having had to have lived through that where as Ben and Johnny get the easy way out having to deal with none of the grief.

[@zachhutch2027]

@@thwipkid I want them to be college friends/classmates

[@ZacErickson1906]

Add in Bobby Drake and they can be the three musketeers. Sign me up

[@TolaniBarnosmusic]

The thing is the actors don’t always seem like the perfect choice, until they are

[@JacobRavenglass]

Heath Ledger, Daniel Craig... You’re not wrong.👌

[@ForeverSweetx3]

True!

[@DavidInsome]

As James Bond?????

[@JacobRavenglass]

@@DavidInsome You bet. If memory serves, there was at least a portion of the fan base that didn’t have high hopes for Craig based on his blue-eyed, blonde-haired, rugged-faced looks. Whether they liked it or not, Craig and his physicality and idiosyncrasies were the shot in the arm that the franchise needed at that point in time, and defined cinema Bond for an entire generation of fans.

[@DavidInsome]

@@JacobRavenglass cool

[@EthanWestmo]

The cast should screen-test with Tom Holland and Jonathan Majors, I think those dynamics are really important

[@joeschmoe1464]

Considering what we saw in Loki it’s gonna be hard not to get overshadowed

[@mr.iiconic]

@@joeschmoe1464 true, but that's not the point. Holland was totally overshadowed by Downey in his.

[@madnessarcade7447]

I brought the idea upto Ryan kelley already and he said he’s down so he just needs to audition and we gotta have his back

[@ethanwatson6131]

the actress for she-hulk too just in case they go that route

[@tylerbermeo2882]

Yes 🙌

[@SignalWarden]

I always thought Michael Fassbender would have been a great Doom. As to the villain it should be, I really want Annihilus on screen. I assumed that was the direction of Fant4stic, but yeah. Also, setting up Molecule Man for later would be really cool too.

[@joeljames2683]

A man of fine taste I see. Those two need to be introduced in the MCU at some point.

[@jakeochs1467]

WOAH! I actually love your Ben Grimm pick for the exact reasons you do, and for the too handsome issue as well. In the comics, Ben’s whole self image issue comes from the fact he was super attractive and a ladies man before his transformation. Its almost integral to his characterization in the original source material.

[@voidshell8157]

When casting the Fantastic Four I want them to have Tom Holland do screen tests with them. One of my favourite parts about the comics is how Spider-Man is essentially just another member of the family. I would love nothing more than to see the FF and Spidey play off each other in the big screen!

[@dawsonlandar7038]

True, and Spider-man's new best friend in the mcu could be Johnny Storm because they're really close in the comics

[@megadude967]

Especially with where Spider-Man is in the MCU, seeing him get a new family/support system would be sooooooooooooooooo sweet

[@Wico90YT]

Flipping the paradigm, and giving Spidey friends like Johnny and Felicia, while leaving Peter friendless, would be fun.

[@bjarkisteinnpetursson9736]

I agree. And I think Johnny should be one year older than Peter. Peter will probably be 18/19 when they introduce the Fantastic Four so Johnny being 19/20 would be perfect. They could cast an actor born any time between the mid-90s (like Tom) to the early 00s.

[@alexricky87]

Considering what happened in NWH I think it would be great to see Peter (Tom Holland)meet up with the F4 right before they get their powers and he builds a relationship with them and then they get their powers and he becomes they link to the Avengers.

[@aspacelex]

They should just bring back Chris Evans as Jonathan Storm and never address it.

[@CobaltTux]

power move

[@Zeppelinschaffner22]

One throwaway line in a spider-man movie: "You know, you kinda look like.." - "Yeah I get that all the time."

[@Jay-Da-Giant]

I don’t think so. Chris Evans was already Captain America in the MCU.

[@K3end0]

@@Jay-Da-Giant yes that's the point

[@4YrStasis]

Kind of like Terrence Howard?

[@plaidawan]

I think Dr Doom has the opportunity to be the “next Loki” of the MCU. I mean that by him being a character who’s menace and story is built parallel towards the hero’s story and built up to be the big bad the Avengers have to go up against, and then becomes sort of an anti-hero. Much like Loki was a character that acted as Thors antagonist, fought the Avengers, and then became the star of his own series. Doom has always been complex where his villainy is rooted in much higher purposes. I think it definitely should be built up to like Loki was.

[@HxH2011DRA]

*SO MUCH THIS*

[@mageeaaron2624]

I agree. I think the difference between the two is that Doctor Doom is a man of honor. I know in the comics he helped Sue deliver her child and all he asked in return was to name her. Even though he hates the Fantastic Four *Mostly Reed Richards* he still helped them. Kind of funny that Doom & Loki haven't crossed paths that I know of. Since Doctor Doom is a master of both Magic & Science

[@Bowman2point0]

I was thinking it'd be cool for him to start as more of a hero and have a significant fall - he is with all of them as a hero to defeat Kang or Galactus or someone, but then, not feeling appreciated or having a thirst for power, or whatever reason he might have, he turns against the heroes of the universe and becomes the next Big Bad.

[@mageeaaron2624]

@@Bowman2point0 Oooooooooh, I would love that!! Because it would be considered a tragic for our heroes in the MCU, that an ally turned into an enemy! Perfect!!

[@Vespuchian]

@@Bowman2point0 It's certainly an opportunity to redo the Killmonger 'you know, the antagonist _kinda has a point'_ idea by making Doom a genuine benevolent authoritarian (at least from his own perspective) who really _can_ solve a lot of the world's problems, but only if you submit to his absolute authority. His whole conceptual through-line can be 'is there really such a thing as a benevolent dictator?'

[@vanhunts6238]

A big choice for Reed Richards for me personally would be Penn Badgley, who plays Joe from You. His character on that show is calculating and controlling. He’s also a stalker, so that plays well with the “curiosity going too far,” angle you mentioned, although they would obviously tone that down hopefully.

[@justingarrett2239]

Rumors are that Marvel is considering him, so you could be right!

[@tiegideon9816]

I can’t see him as Reed, purely based on looks and build alone.

[@idkeverything5127]

I would love him as reed

[@robertcatania9115]

It would work but he seems a bit short. Sure he stretches, but beforehand I don’t know how I feel about short being super stretched as opposed to taller first and then stretching lol

[@Donny148]

@@tiegideon9816 Have you seen him with the beard?

[@sherifflacombe]

If they haven't had wasted Mads Mikkelsen with Doctor Strange he would be the absolute perfect doctor doom

[@camzilla_does_music834]

Maybe Javier Bardem? Seems like bond villains suits the Doctor Doom mold

[@LMNtaLXicon]

Honest-to-goodness, just cast Mads again. No one even remembers Kaecilius' final battle with Strange. And this is even speaking without the hindsight post-RDJ casting, which gives the even MORE incentive, since re-casting isn't off the table. Hannibal, LeChiffe - Mads is MADE for eroticism and esotericism.

[@XiscoLozdob]

I feel the ethnicity of Doom is just as important as Ben's. His mother's lineage and Roma identity is very relevant to his sorcerer side, which is something I'd lean into a lot considering the MCU's already established lore and to differentiate him from the other screen adaptations.

[@_mikeacuna_]

I agree, though I think in this case, some lore could be ignored in favor of the right actor (for any role)

[@Immortal_Inkwell]

I agree that it was really scummy to mention Ben's religion SO heavily and then not even mention Victor's actual ethnicity at all. I know it's hard to find Romani actors, especially men, with a presence but the effort of at least talking about it isn't much to ask for. We were already stiffed really bad with Wanda, we shouldn't have to miss out on Doom.

[@pennyforyourthots]

This is true, but at the same time I kind of feel weird about using a real people group. The idea of his sorcerer side being related to his Roma identity, while not necessarily intended to be a harmful stereotype as it's played pretty straight, it also feels very connected to some of the more harmful stereotypes. His ethnicity definitely should be important to his character, and hiring a Roma actor is a great way to call back to that, but a live-action adaptation is also a great way to perhaps distance the character from the more harmful stereotypes associated with the whole "Magic Roma" connection. It's going to be difficult to do well, especially since Disney, and by extension Marvel, only really do surface-level callbacks to be more socially conscious aspects of Marvel Comics.

[@Immortal_Inkwell]

@@pennyforyourthots I'm Romani and I don't think Doom having magic is racist. Mainly because it's never played in a stereotypical way and he's also a scientist who is cunningly smart and brilliant in other ways. Doom is a very nuanced character and the fact his mother was a mage shouldn't be discouragement from his Roma identity. I'd rather have Doom and have his Romani witch mother as it is in the comics, where it was done very tastefully if memory serves well, than have him be changed to being white because people were offended on my behalf.

[@af146983]

@@pennyforyourthots why dont you let the Romani people be offended on their own behalf. Especially because doom was a man of science first that was willing to take knowledge wherever it came. It speaks to doom being in someways more open minded than reed.

[@gryfon_gamez8184]

I like John Krasinski as Reed Richards especially after watching a quiet place. It shows his fatherly instinct and the way his character makes all those different ways to avoid attracting the aliens shows he can play intelligent and adaptable. Although I respect ypur opinion.

[@jamesscott305]

Agree

[@jamisonwoodson8548]

Yup

[@austindaniels4827]

also if u watch jack ryan he’s a smart guy in that too so i totally believe him as reed

[@danw.1250]

Yup.

[@_manofreal3133]

His face is too fat to me. Lol Mr fantastic for to me is tall slender white male in like the 40s. Jaw line square and sharp features. And I still get comedy from John lol.

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

Calling it now the MCU version of Latveria will some how be connected to Sokovia or maybe just be the same country renamed under dooms control.

[@Coolsomeone234]

I have the same theory, it makes more sense than this Quantum or Negative zone stuff

[@AbjectPermanence]

Latvaria has always been an eastern European country like Sokovia is, and it makes sense that the the Avengers introducing political turmoil like they have could induce balkanization. I think a lot of people are expecting Latvaria to have something to do with the Sokovia stories.

[@tommymichalak1021]

Yeah I think this would make so much sense for Latveria to be the new Sokovia, it would make his citizens loyal to him bc he was able to save the country after what happened in AoU and show that he might be sort of right about how he should control the whole world bc he was able to successfully salvage Sokovia

[@oldmanlogan9616]

Doom should be trying to annex Sokovia after the political instability that happened. It could be source of conflict between him and Baron Zemo

[@johnispurple]

This makes so much sense especially after watching Falcon and Winter Soldier

[@asorlokirunarsson9864]

I feel like Doctor Doom is next to uncastable. He's such a key, specific, larger-than-life character

[@austindaniels4827]

i agree. i also think the same about wolverine too. i’ve thought so hard about who i would want to play him and i have no clue

[@asorlokirunarsson9864]

@@austindaniels4827 yeah, Wolverine is a hard one too

[@silverjaguar6744]

@@austindaniels4827 I feel they really need to find an unknown for both Wolverine and Doctor Doom. No actor truly fits the bill

[@austindaniels4827]

@@silverjaguar6744 wolverine yea probably but i can think of a couple people i’d like to see play doctor doom

[@asorlokirunarsson9864]

@@austindaniels4827 who?

[@dariussmith8255]

My favorite pick for Dr Doom would be Adam driver because he has already shown he can be maniacal and angry but also he can be intellectually sound, he’s 6’5 and I could 100% see him bossing people around and giving orders and or acting better than everyone

[@Devedrus]

I feel like no one has acknowledged that Nando's casting list could lead to a world where Sue and Doom are the Fifty Shades duo. Imagine the meta jokes that would generate.

[@captainbrodude8251]

Hahahaha, what's even more fun is apparently Dornan was linked to Reed a month ago

[@Lynxnd]

💀 that would be so funny and awkward 🤣

[@BryanSeeker]

While I don’t love this list, I appreciate the thought you put into it. Some interesting choices here for sure which I haven’t seen elsewhere.

[@rooster5343]

Bryan! Love your castings in general man. Just wanted to express my admiration here lol

[@reyzanjoeunay937]

Which ones didn't impress you? just curious

[@raynegun3409]

@@reyzanjoeunay937 Does it matter? The mans allowed to have his opinion, no need to pry his mind about it.

[@reyzanjoeunay937]

I didn't mean to sound like I was threatening him I just wanted to know more about his opinions because I don't really have one on this topic Sorry if I did sound threatening

[@raynegun3409]

@@reyzanjoeunay937 Oh, my bad lol. I thought it was cause the ages was very mixed, like Alden being child hood friends with a 40 year old William Jackson Harper.

[@MJTRadio]

Only meaningful thing I ever had to say about casting like this was when I once told a bud of mine, “You know how I’d do Dr. Doom? Keep him in a mask and dub over him the whole movie like he’s Darth Vader. And get Eric Roberts to do it.”

[@bartman7181]

Ray Park/Eric Roberts combo

[@chiefbigsad7995]

i think they have a beautiful opportunity here with doom. instead of him being an already existing leader of an important nation we just havent ever heard of. make him new on the scene, a endlessly wealthy man who wants to rebuild the nation of his ancestors. a nations also known to produce incredibly powerful sorcerers. Latveria can be the gem pulled from the rubble that was sokovia.

[@ponodude101]

On the topic of Dakota Johnson and Fifty Shades, I would like to point everyone over to Robert Pattinson with Twilight and how he has not only been great in other roles since, but surprisingly killed it as Batman. Also, I now really do see your point about John Krasinski and love the idea of Dan Stevens.

[@MarioGMan25]

A Doom casting I saw said they should never show his face once he dawns the mask and have a genuine Voice Actor for Doom. I think that would be interesting at least.

[@oldmanlogan9616]

Yes tottaly agree with you

[@awesomeawesome8350]

Yeah do it like master chief in forward unto dawn. They had a 6’6” body double in the suit and his game VA said his lines

[@ethanwatson6131]

imagine they got the dub VA for Madara or some crazy bassy voice like that

[@chidaluokoro9104]

like darth vader

[@Drumboardist]

Rob Paulsen as Dr. Doom. I like it.

[@huntervanhook]

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau isn't Croatian... he is Danish. I do think he could still make an excellent Doom though. I don't think a "too old" argument really works for a character like Doom, who is masked the entire time.

[@skakee10]

But its also the mcu. They take off their masks all the time for some reason

[@espalier]

CROAT

[@Ringohulk777]

I mean if Doom is 80 it probably won't work

[@victorcsavage]

I've been watching Seinfeld, and I don't care how old he is, but Jason Alexander NEEDS to play the Mole Man. There's nothing more that your movie could do to make me watch it than that

[@jrock8336]

I'd watch that lol. I was about to write a comment saying replace Moleman with the High Evolutionary to fit better with where the MCU is at. But yeah Jason Alexander mMoleman would be worth it

[@keegantunks1953]

But consider.. our lord and saviour.Daniel Devito

[@espalier]

I hate that guy, PERFECT for Mold Man.

[@zoser595]

@@jrock8336 The High Evolutionary will be played by Chukwudi Iwuji in Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

[@CrazyDylan21]

Well, you got the Vanessa Kirby guess right. Curious to see what he's gonna think about rdj Dr doom.

[@supremeleaderdoesbaddel5507]

I'd really like to see Timothy Olyphant as Reed, I don't know, he just has the right vibe for me. Also Joe Keery as Johnny Storm.

[@rpandya97]

I think Olyphant would be perfect too. Both of those are solid picks.

[@chrishansen8119]

If Keery could put on some weight and bulk up, I truly think he'd be the best choice for Johnny. Underrated actor, not averse to large franchises, lots of range, etc

[@tommymoriarty829]

Dang absolutely love these

[@JA-ng7yo]

Henry Golding as well.

[@Donny148]

I think olyphant is a little too much on the older side for reed if marvel wants to keep him around

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

I actually want Mads Mikkelsen or Michael Fassbender as Doom. But Mads is already Kaecellius and with the multiverse, Fassbender could come back as Magneto.

[@aligatorsandwitch72]

I want Viggo Mortensen to be Magneto in MCU

[@wheatgrowssweet]

@@aligatorsandwitch72 how cool would Viggo have been as Doom though? I agree he's probably a bit older than Marvel is looking for right now.

[@soundsonic2754]

Doom has to be cillian Murphy

[@lofr8982]

Doom could be Kaecelius' Papa or evil twin. Are we forgetting that these are comic book movies?!?

[@yiklongtay6029]

Mads isnt ridiculously handspme. Doom was incredibly attractive before he scarred his face. His handsomeness was definitely one of the thing that fuelled his unreasonable ego

[@Advent3546]

Fully agree with the Krasinski point. He fills the role of inoffensive every man, be it the generic action man roles or Jims. I get it that people really like Jim and those fan edits are neat but nothing about Krasinski as an actor leads me to believe he can command a room like Reed does.

[@rickyshappell6215]

"Krasinski would be the perfect Reed Richards!" How? "Cause Krasinski is an actor, and he can act like Reed." No one has ever explained to me what makes Krasinski a perfect Reed. They don't mention a role, or a quality he might have in his real life, or even a physical resemblance. He's a perfect Reed cause he's an actor I guess.

[@Coolsomeone234]

@@rickyshappell6215 on the flip side that funny dad from Malcolm in the Middle ended up being one of the best actors of our time. Agreed though the only reason he's fancast is because he's Jim from The Office

[@rickyshappell6215]

@Sidharth Rao Only when Reed has a beard tho.

[@benl.4577]

I would agree with you, except after watching the quiet place I can see he definitely has range and would make a great Reed if he puts in the effort. Plus, these were the same arguments against Evans as Captain America when he was first cast, seeing as he was typecast as the cocky arrogant white guy even playing Johnny Storm, but look how well he did the character.

[@cgk1276]

People said that sort of stuff about Heath Ledger too. These actors have been typecast and they don’t get to SHOW that range until they’re given an opportunity.

[@benjaminsantiagosstuff]

I know this defies the age thing you set up, but I kinda love Dev Patel as Reed Richards after seeing him in Green Knight. Would be cool to see him younger and precociously intelligent but coming to terms with becoming a leader.

[@alexpage10]

I'd really like Howerton as Reed just to hear him say that he needs his tools, and to explain the REED system.

[@bwharris2002]

I honestly can’t believe you didn’t mention Dacre Montgomery of Stranger Things fame for the Johnny Storm cast. He would be absolutely perfect in the role! A relatively unknown, talented, up and coming actor who has showed elements of Johnny Storms personality in his current works.

[@chrisburr4826]

I think the only two FF core characters who have ethnicities that really matter are Ben being Jewish, as it's a big part of his identity and origins, and Doom being Romani

[@nerds-nonsense]

Came down here to say this.

[@FerociousPaul]

Question, does that mean casting an ethnically Jewish actor to you?

[@eanderson9599]

@@FerociousPaul nah

[@FerociousPaul]

@@eanderson9599 Yeah me either. Especially considering that Jews are racially pretty diverse. So long as it's part of the character's heritage, I don't care if the actor themselves is Jewish

[@CometStar100]

@@FerociousPaul I'm Jewish and I really don't care. It's a religion. Anyone can be Jewish. It's not like it's in our blood lol. I want Jesse Plemons to play the Thing.

[@driveasandwich6734]

After hearing that the actors have to work together as a family I feel like this is the only cast that can work: Glenn Howerton as Reed Richards Kaitlin Olson as Sue Storm Charlie Day as Johnny Storm Danny DeVito as Ben Grimm Rob McElhenney as Dr. Doom

[@_thomas1031]

Acceptable👌

[@bannedinallston]

Its always sunny at the baxter building

[@TheEvilCheesecake]

Ya'll really should watch a second show sometime in your lives.

[@liamwhite1719]

I dig it but i think Danny DeVito is too old for Ben and Charlie Day is too old for Johnny

[@driveasandwich6734]

@@TheEvilCheesecake Bud, this was 1 joke.

[@CHIEF__]

Glenn could totally scale back his inner Dennis and be a great Reed. If you've ever listened to him in interviews, it's exactly how you described what you wanted, he thinks he's just a little better than everyone he talks to, not like Joel McHale whose whole personality is narcissism (who would've made a great Tony Stark btw)

[@AaronPlay]

I agree. I never thought of Howerton for Reed Richards but he’s really perfect.

[@HeyItsLito]

Watching this after the official cast reveal, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOH boy, i hope he isn't disappointed in the casting choices marvel made

[@wretcheddad]

Dacre Montgomery is perfect for Johnny, like Billy in Stranger Things is literally Johnny imo and I can see him having that great chemistry with Tom Holland that is really important for those characters.

[@shui_og]

He is 27 now, so by the time the movie comes out he will be going on 30. Which might be a problem; of course he could play a character younger than he is (like in stranger things). Other than that I totally agree, he would be a great fit

[@blurryperson2685]

Racist Johnny lnfao

[@yuvi3000]

I was surprised that he wasn't mentioned in the video because I think he's one of the best choices and it seems to be a fairly popular choice as well.

[@mekinchung2398]

That is perfect 😍 Dacre Montgomery he become to Johnny Storm human torch fantastic 4️⃣❤😊

[@thorodinson1064]

I think the most attractive component to John and Emily as the characters is the family aspect. The FFs best quality in my opinion is their strong family bond. Yes John and Emily are married but also showed their superb handling of the family elements in A Quiet place. For the FF I think chemistry between the 4 is the most important part of casting.

[@yardship]

yeah, but what if they get divorced?

[@Moonsault37]

@@yardship what if one of them dies

[@ivanagustinortiz5237]

@@yardship that was the main issue with one of the first ideas of a Fantastic Four movie lol, Chris Colombus wanted Meg Ryan and her husband to play Sue and Reed respectively, but after the movie didn't happen he was cheating on her, it would be pretty hard to do a movie with that drama behind the scenes.

[@af146983]

@@yardship we'll just tell them that they cant.

[@abby4115]

YES. This is why I tell everyone who doubts them as Sue and Reed to watch a Quiet Place. They ARE Reed and Sue. Yes the FF is about fun adventures, but at its core, it's about family. And as dysfunctional of a family the FF are, they would literally die for one another.

[@Marabcd315]

I am absolutely certain that the main reason that John Krasinski is so popular a fancast for Reed is because of the fact that he's married to Emily Blunt

[@cpenner7086]

Wrong because I hear more people talk about John being Richard than Emily being sue...

[@aryanmoudgil]

No the main reason as he said in the video is comic Reed looks like John Krasinski

[@madnessarcade7447]

@@cpenner7086 Jay baruchel as reed Hilary duff as sue Ryan Kelley as Johnny Dominic purcell or Dwayne Johnson as the thing This is a unique cast and fits really well

[@ethanjobson3879]

It's also because A Quiet Place.

[@af146983]

Also because each of these characters dont exist in a vacuum. Part of the appeal of ff has always been the chemistry and family dynamic. And john and Emily has proven they have that on film chemistry.

[@13nwaffles]

Krasiski is exactly right for Reed because he only SEEMS nice, his niceness is a veneer that covers a darker, cynical edge. Jim was nice, but he wasn’t really a nice guy, he had an edge to him, he constantly does things to hurt others, but always managed to pivot away from facing the consequences.

[@phffffbt]

100%. He really has that "I hate you and you dont even know it" energy.

[@jahleel0077]

There was nothing about Jim that gave "edge". Him getting away with things was indicative of the writing of the show, not the character

[@tam2237]

Krasiski

[@bergamt]

Did Dwight write this

[@sammybou1116]

You don't know a thing about Reed Richards if you think he pretends to be nice for some darker purpose. Holy cow, y'all have been brainwashed by Civil War.

[@nelspaulson3099]

The funny thing is you haven't seen John Krasinski in Jack Ryan, which showed me that he has the exact range needed. Your picks are good, I just think that when you miss the show that shows what you criticize him for missing it should be taken into account.

[@ethan123p4]

He doesn’t care because the guy is white clearly stated wanting a black guy

[@freyss9]

watching this after dsmom and finally getting to see krasinski as reed richards is sooo satisfying, i think he did great, but again, everyone has their own opinions

[@DevourerSated]

⚠SPOILER FOR MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS⚠ He said one line and then died. He doesn't even say or do anything smart at all. He's supposed to be the smartest man in the multiverse and we didn't really get to SEE reed richards at all. He just cockily thinks they can stop wanda and then they're outmatched in 10 seconds. I hope they put him in this movie to be like "Yeah! there you go, John Krasinski as reed richards" Now lets cast someone else for the real fantastic 4 movie XDD

[@david6321]

@@DevourerSated Yeah I'm also thinking he won't be more than a small fanservice cameo for the fans. It it as shame tho, I think he'd be perfect for the role.

[@TheRunningComedian]

Whoever they cast for doom needs to be able to be charming when he's unmasked, and his terrifying and menacing being needs to come through the mask. That's the most important thing for me.

[@jasoncoladonato1034]

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau is my pick

[@Devon.with.an.i]

For real. Not to diss on the marvel actors, but I wanna see a real performance from Doom.

[@rileyribble6733]

@TheDudeReviews Doom should never reveal his mask unless it’s a prequel story based off something like Books or Doom, or at the end of something like Secret Wars. But in regards to the presence through the mask I definitely agree. That’s why my top choices would be either Nikolaj Coster Waldau, Cillian Murphy, or Michael Fassbender

[@sayakchoudhury9711]

@@rileyribble6733 absolutely yes for Cillian Murphy!! Great actor.

[@TheRunningComedian]

@@rileyribble6733 absolutely.

[@jaredkirschenbaum3268]

He’s definitely a newcomer, but I want to see Romanian actor Alec Secareanu as Doom. If you aren’t familiar with him, check out God’s Own Country and the first season of Baptiste. He’s also right in that age range

[@SarahBaird-io2tn]

YES NO WHITEWASHING! Please cast a Romani actor as Doom.

[@applefest1]

Wow, I would love that! He's great, but I would have never thought of him

[@Coolsomeone234]

Also right ethnicity

[@Devon.with.an.i]

@@SarahBaird-io2tn isn’t Dr. Doom white?

[@RicardoPetinga]

He's Romanian, not Romani. I mean, at least all I found is that he's Romanian and no mention anywhere of him being Romani.

[@maxofmercury]

my favourite fan cast for Reed is Rahul Kohli.. even just his range in izombie is enough for me. he played goofy proud ride-or-die basement scientist so well, i can't imagine anyone else as of yet.

[@Lismism2023]

Harper should’ve been Reed in Quantamania, his character was wasted and we could’ve done with a post credit scene where he reveals himself to be reed doing recon on Kang in the quantum realm.

[@CoasterPuppy]

that’s exactly what I was thinking, such a waste of a amazing actor

[@Lismism2023]

@@CoasterPuppy agreed

[@elormkatsekpor1168]

As soon as you said Rahul Kohli I went wide eyed. He's perfect

[@MasterOfAnomisty]

I think Joe Keery would make a great Johnny Storm. He’s played that older brother/hothead type in Stranger Things and has a pretty great range. Jim Parsons would make a great HERBIE in my opinion. He has that intellectual type voice and was great as Sheldon on The Big Bang Theory and that character is sort of like robot due to the way he acts.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Either him or Dacre Montgomery for Johnny.

[@MasterOfAnomisty]

@@osmanyousif7849 I actually do think Dacre would be an amazing choice, I just prefer Keery

[@milkiassamuel780]

First of all can we take a moment to appreciate Nando's whiteboard art, seriously as a fellow artist it is amazing. Second, I have full faith that Marvel's casting director Sarah Finn will know the right people to pick for these iconic roles. I love the Fantastic Four so much and cannot wait to Marvel's First Family get the respect they deserve. BTW since everyone has casting ideas for the Fantastic Four, I wanted to pitch ideas for some Fantastic Four villains: Super Skrull - Eric Banner Galactus - Bryan Cranston Annihilus - not too sure? Any ideas? Silver Surfer - Rami Malek

[@srstriker6420]

What about the Moleman, puppet master, the mad thinker and the Red ghost?

[@milkiassamuel780]

@@srstriker6420 Mole Man - Danny Devito or Elijah Wood Puppet Master - Jackie Earle Haley Mad Thinker - Julius Denker Red Ghost - William Kraghoff Wizard - Andrew Scott

[@srstriker6420]

@@milkiassamuel780 okay then.

[@Devon.with.an.i]

Bryan Cranston in the mcu would be so cool. I never thought of that 🤙🏻

[@Guimhj]

Freddy Mercury Prateado is real!

[@bookwyrmbaneoftheplothole8500]

You know, to be honest I was all on board with Reedzinski up until you said William Jackson Harper, honestly I would love him as Reed, not just for the reasons you mentioned, but also because I think he’d play really interesting across from Jonathan Majors’ Kang/Franklin Richards. Edit: Joe Keery is my pick for Johnny Storm.

[@spiralpower1620]

My picks for Fantastic four characters are... kind of out there..... Reed: Glenn Howerton, Eddie Redmayne, Brandon Routh, Rahuli Kohl, or a newcomer. Ben: Craig Robinson, Liev Schreiber, Scott Eastwood, Terry Crews, or John Cena Galactus: Ron Perlman, Bryan Cranston, or Colman Domingo Silver Surfer: Lance Reddick or Ricky Whittle Doom: Cillian Murphy, Viggo Mortenson, or Christoph Waltz Torch: Joe Keery, Dacre Montgomery, or Newcomer

[@Tuaron]

I'd been racking my brain trying to think of a younger actor who could pull off a strong Johnny Storm, and Joe Kerry's an excellent pick. Thank you.

[@steinbachalex]

I think Krasinski showed himself and his range in Bird Box and Jack Ryan and really convinced me. I think he really could.

[@deez6883]

10:31 dangerous last name

[@ExtraMichael]

Didn’t finish this video yet but started cheering at my phone when you said William Jackson Harper as Reed. Insanely great pick. Just out of left field enough to create serious buzz but also so perfect it would win everyone over. I’m in love with it.

[@quanzoboi420]

Honestly, with your suggestion of William Jackson Harper as Reed Richards, it could also be a unsaid explanation of sorts for the casting of Jonathan Majors as Nathanial Richards/Kang.

[@JoeJoe-lq6bd]

With that many years between family members, I really don't think you need that type of explanation.

[@wesmooremedia]

@@JoeJoe-lq6bd it would be a more simple link though.

[@quanzoboi420]

@@JoeJoe-lq6bd yeah you’ve got a point but I think it could just be like a little nod to the future generations of his family. Idk I could be wrong.

[@alexcross7583]

U do know Reed is white not black

[@Knightfall182]

There's like hundreds of years between them......... so they don't have to look like the same race.

[@alexandernigro1435]

I feel like Dan Stevens would be the perfect Dr. Doom, he'd be infinitely better for that role than for Dr. Strange, he can pull out some craaaazy sinister vibes, when he wants too.

[@mca7905]

I love Rahul Kohli for the role of Reed so completely. I’m hoping whoever they cast as Sue is interesting and much more than just a Hollywood blonde love interest. Really who they cast for all of these roles is going to be what defines the movie. Anyone of them could make or break the movie. We can throw out the best names possible but the number 1 element is that the chemistry between the cast needs to be off the charts for the movie to have any chance of succeeding.

[@FilthyGringo]

I don't think the "I dont see him as Reed from his previous roles" reasoning is fair on Krasinski. Chris Evans being cast as cap is a prime example of why.

[@efrenmorenoa]

He said the previous roles excuse and after that he base his elections on the "charisma in other roles", "he was so nice, she was so cute", it's a bad cast, don't take is seriously, it's just fun conversation

[@investigativebatman]

@@efrenmorenoa it's not necessarily contradictory, he's just saying that he doesn't think that Krasinski has played any role that he's seen that shows the range needed for Richards.

[@LonFranson]

@@investigativebatman After saying he's not watched Krasinski in the role he HAS played that is closest to Richard.... aka Jack Ryan. That's... weird for Nando to admit.

[@jerrychacko2661]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Timothy Olyphant for Reed Richards or Dacre Montgomery for Johnny Storm Physically, Olyphant has the gray streaks and similar face structure, he has the charm and looks more of a leading man than Krankisnki imo. Dacre, especially after seeing Stranger Things, could be a great Johnny Storm. While he was menacing on that show, IRL he's much more nonchalant. Has just as much charm as the actors you mentioned and could build a rapport with younger actors such as Holland's Spiderman, Steinfield's Hawkeye, etc.

[@ratsock]

Ooo these are great picks

[@zarinaa1135]

Thank you for talking about how important it is that Ben Grimm be Jewish in the movies. As a Jew, that was really nice to hear from a non-jew. Since Hollywood is so filled with Jews I don't think it'll be that hard to cast a Jew, but personally I don't really mind. As long as his Jewish-ness is present, respected and most importantly, organic.

[@joeydeaconblues]

Agree with this so much. My first choice would be Natasha Lyonne. But even if gender swapping the character is too controversial they should hire her as a character/acting coach.

[@3z3O]

No one cares about representation

[@GalazyProductions]

@@3z3O They clearly do, I do, a lot of people I know do. I think YOU just don't care.

[@3z3O]

@@GalazyProductions representation doesn’t need to be everywhere it’s a fake world a story. We don’t need that bs in films.

[@GalazyProductions]

@@3z3O Represenation DOES matter, watch the documentary "The Problem with Apu" where an Indian man says his issues with being compared to Apu throughout childhood. Seriously, watch it, it really helped me understand the importance of representation. It's on HBO Max or you can just pirate it if you don't have that.

[@davidrich27]

He's more of a producer/director than actor, but Eli Roth would be kinda fun as Grimm. He has basically played a golem before too.

[@paramoosestudios]

Honestly the only one I feel is somewhat easy to cast is Johnny, I would either go with Dacre Montgomery or Joe Quinn, I know they’re both from Stranger Things but I think either of them would do great in the role

[@ThaD0n]

Darce yes, Joe? not so much imo

[@kingkahn6295]

Did you mean Joe Keery? Quinn plays Eddie who definitely doesn’t give me Johnny Storm vibes but Keery is Steve which is a better fit for Johnny.

[@velocaptor]

It's been awhile since I've been so interested in literal nerd discussion about perfect scenarios that will never happen. I'm so happy I have found this channel, it brought me back into something I used to like so much about this types of discussions.

[@princeofnaboo]

honestly same

[@owenoswald]

He is almost certainly too old but I’d love to see Ralph Fiennes as Doctor Doom. Fiennes can be absolutely terrifying if he wants too.

[@EAdano77]

His younger brother Joseph would be an excellent choice, though.

[@fredcarmichael5544]

To me, it'a mads mikkelson

[@patrickdavies9790]

@@fredcarmichael5544 Sadly he was wasted in Doctor Strange as a one note villain.

[@osmanyousif7849]

I’d rather he not take the role, because Fiennes seems like one of those actors who wants to avoid this type-cast.

[@HenryLouis21]

Ralph would be a better Professor X

[@thomaspetch995]

I get what you mean about Krasinski, but at the same time just because he hasn’t done a role like Reed before, doesn’t mean he can’t do it at all

[@babayagaslobbedaknobba]

I'd like to see Cillian Murphy or Mark Strong as Doctor Doom. Actually, Murphy could probably play Mr. Fantastic, as well.

[@petezarole]

Mark strong !!! Talk about an intimidating look for doom

[@lilam7851]

I can't think of a more amazing casting for The Thing, than Michael Chicklis, back in the day.

[@JaceDiehl]

Mr. Fantastic: Colin Hanks Invisible Woman: Brittany Snow The Thing: Adam Driver Human Torch: Joe Keery

[@samuelphilp4104]

When I look at casting Reed I’ve always approached it trying to blend corporate desire with the character and I think that’s why Krasinski will be cast in the role and I’m fine with it. Reeds probably gonna be the face of the brand for the next 10 years, they need an RDJ in my opinion, but I’m happy to be wrong.

[@kedrprao]

Priyanka Chopra for Sue Storm and Dev Patel as Johnny would be hilarious

[@OpinionParade]

Hilariously bad.

[@rachelknightonline]

Terry Crews as The Thing. Absolutely Elijah Wood as Mole Man. MovieBobs pitch from a few years ago would be the movie I’d love to see

[@benl.4577]

No

[@Brotherofthe4thCompany]

Elijah Wood was terrifying as Kevin in Sin City. Especially with smile after getting his limbs amputated.

[@tmovies92]

odd choice. but what about Jonah Hill as Ben Grimm aka The Thing? He's Jewish, he could pull a New York accent well(as we saw in The Wolf of Wall Street) & He's becoming pretty fit now a days. He's also a 2 time Oscar Nominated Actor. He was even rumored to play The Penguin in the recent Batman movie.

[@akiraeatsguitarpicks491]

Wouldn’t he sound too high pitched?

[@nathanthom8176]

@@akiraeatsguitarpicks491 exactly, they would have to put his voice through so many processors that you lose the reason for hiring a star in the first place.

[@adamsagehorn3520]

I think you'd be better about off with Seth Rogan

[@kaimemes]

william jackson harper as reed richards is perfect

[@JoshuaWillis89]

I totally agree about John Krasinski. I really want Reed Richards to be a relative unknown coming into the role. I think a lot of Marvel’s success has come from hiring actors who become synonymous with their character in the MCU. It’s harder to achieve that when the actor already has embodied a character so fully and for so long, like Jim Halpert. Big names should be relegated to side characters and one-off villains.

[@mon_nobi]

I also agree about Joh Krasinski, but mostly because I can’t see him as someone who could believably play the obsessive genius who battles gods but also silly CGI stretchy guy

[@JoshuaWillis89]

@@mon_nobi also true

[@Knightfall182]

I think most audiences and fans would prefer Krasinski easily, over the random black dude suggested here.

[@mon_nobi]

@@Knightfall182 obviously many fans think Krasinski looks the part, but in terms of acting talent and fit for the character, William Jackson Harper would be many times more engaging and believable and is more likely to deliver an overall better performance as Reed Richards than Krasinski, and that’s something I think Feige cares about more. Nando didn’t pick him as his first choice just to be rAnDoM.

[@Knightfall182]

@@mon_nobi I disagree, all Feige's supehero castings (save for Eternals...which was a Failure) maintained the traditional looks of the source material, while also being capable actors.

[@jasonshaw2065]

Krasinski has range, and you see his fatherly quality in the Quiet Place films. Equally important, he's tall. The CGI stretch limb effects will fall into the uncanny valley with a short actor. They have to have the proportional face, neck and torso of a tall guy.

[@ians7272]

John Krasinski doesn’t have a punchable enough face to play reed

[@Devon.with.an.i]

@@ians7272 💀

[@briansilva3344]

Here's a real question, Do you want The Thing to be made via Practical Effects or CGI? It's been done both ways, and the CGI game has changed alot since 2014. I personally like the 2005 live-action version since the actor was a fan and insisted to be made via makeup and costuming. But I'm curious to what other think. What do you think?

[@robertrostad3930]

Mix of both: Like that adaptation of “Where the Wild Things Are” practical suit w/CG face.

[@INRamos13]

VFX workers are dying

[@Chuck_EL]

Since Ben is Jewish it should be a Jewish actor and Peter Parker is Jewish also Stan Lee based Peter on him as a teenager I can even see the MCU using the Golum Jewish folklore as an arc for Ben Grimm

[@zacharyg9878]

I think Robert Downy Jr. and Chris Evans were really the face of Marvel for the Infinity Saga and I just feel that Krasinski could really fill in those shoes and be the new face for this next saga their building towards. I understand most fan castings are usually based on how close someone looks like the comic book character and not really their ability to portray that specific character, but Krasinski is the first casting I wholeheartedly agree with. Either way, I’m excited to finally get this team into the MCU, no matter who plays them.

[@felipemerg]

i think Krasinski and Blunt are great actors, both have acted as a married couple together and have great chemistry on camera. they deserve a chance. The couples we have seen haven't had that chemestry in any of the movies so far. if the most important trait of the first family of superheros is a familiy, why not cast them who have a family already?. Also even when his most iconic role is from a sitcom, the office does have a lot of drama, where Kraskiski performance demonstrates he is up to the challenge. In some episodes we see Jim as boss being arrogant, same traits of being a little dorky can use for the role too. It get the suspicion that its a fan-casting but there are some solid arguments of why we could nail the role.

[@MajesticWorld19]

I would've never picked the actor who played Chidi for Reed but it makes so much sense!

[@_thomas1031]

I can believe in John to take a shot at playing him based off of his role in A quiet place, he of coarse was playing a father but despite the lack of dialog he was able to convey that complicated relationship with his daughter as well as that kind've "I'm focused on getting this done first" attitude. At the end of the day, I'm sure everyone would love a great Mr. Fantastic with an actor that will honestly best fit the role, perhaps even an unknown which would be a suprise🤷‍♂️

[@rarebirdfacts]

i think danny devito should play the big orang rock guy

[@SuperMurray2009]

The Thing

[@rarebirdfacts]

@@SuperMurray2009 yeah that thing

[@RetroRevivalLuke]

For me Dacre Montgomery is the PERFECT Johnny Storm!!!

[@KittyOfChess]

Now that you've put the thought in my mind, I'm in love with the idea of Priyanka Chopra as Sue Storm. Having watched a lot (and I mean a lot) of Bollywood movies, I can confidently say she'd be perfect.

[@hjcinc1]

I think a Simone leaning more toward voice actor would be a better pick for Doom. The presence needs to come from the voice first. And no voice has a better presence to me than Keith David.

[@jalabi99]

Keith David or James Earl Jones as the voice of Dr. Doom

[@benvigus8705]

Off all of these ideas, I think I love Manny Jacinto as Johnny Storm the most. It's inspired. Plus, he does have range. He voices Shinobu in the English dub of Belle, and that character's very restrained and serious, so I think that means he could handle the more earnest moments along with the funny ones. It'd also be cool to see a Filipino American superhero.

[@JorizzleMeNizzle]

I didn’t watch your “casting Keanu reeves in the MCU” video, but as soon as you said Keanu as the Silver Surfer, I could not agree with you more. Thats the most spot-on casting only just topping your Dr.Doom pick

[@4YrStasis]

You must mean voicing, right?

[@taha_boy]

Your Jermie Dornan casting is perfect!

[@lesleemorrisett2183]

I like John because of mostly a quiet place, you can see him being the type of Father figure protective dad

[@thesuperframe]

I feel like your understanding of the FF is a little surface level based off the basics of how these characters are, I’d recommend watching the mini doco on yt ‘we are the fantastic four’, after that it’s kind of obvious what actors can or cannot play these characters, some of which you’ve named I don’t think embody these characters true heart remotely.

[@liamwhite1719]

oof, this is like... v gatekeepy. ik marvel is comic movies but i barely read comics, so casting for the general audience's understanding and then building off it will probably work better than casting based of every line of development the characters have had in the comics.

[@thesuperframe]

@@liamwhite1719 respectfully man it’s not “every line of development” it’s literally just the nuances of the characters he’s completely missed and what makes them endearing/compelling, that’s what you need to cast for. Johnny’s sacrificial courageous element tying into his pressure to mature, Sue’s inner conflict of stress, attention n time she puts into people, Reed’s unapologetic brilliance leading to a dismissive father knows best mentality whilst balancing his guilt for his failures and the weight of every problem on his shoulders, Ben’s heart of gold wearing his emotions on his sleeve in a subtle hard but soft on in the inside way. Fans of the comics (myself included) want these characters to be done right finally, not to just be stereotypes of their basic attributes like the last two incarnations, missing the depth.

[@blurryperson2685]

@@thesuperframe What part of these casts don’t have to potential to embody what you’re saying? You haven’t made much of a case

[@tatianahernandez2865]

I kind of like the idea of a younger Johnny, like high school age. It could explore the idea of a superhero kid with superhero "parents" ( Sue and Reed raising him) like The Incredibles or maybe be friends with Spider man (who knows after NWH)

[@lindsaymitchell6760]

Just want to pop in here and say that I'd like to see a First Nations or Métis actor to play Wolverine. He's canonically from Cold Lake, Alberta, which was barely a Hudson Bay Company post in the 1800s, and his dad worked on his mom's property. Like Kiowa Gordon for a younger Logan or Michael Greyeyes for older.

[@Directorfancast]

bro predicted That Vanessa Kirby Would Be Sue Storm Lol

[@rojac5224]

Jack Black as Moleman was so, so on point

[@miket7869]

After the catastrophe that was Fan4stic, I predict that the executives will want to nail the casting to be as comic accurate as they will allow, lest they get people reminiscing about the last movie and its """fantastic""" casting choices.

[@Taurusus]

The casting wasn't the problem with that movie. Those are all talented folk who've done great work elsewhere. But yeah, I suspect they'll go pretty "safe" with the First Family.

[@jahleel0077]

Nah, they won't curtail to the racist backlash to fant4stic. The cast wasn't even the issue with the film. If anything they'll go even more diverse, which most of us are totally cool with

[@davidthirugnanakumar7888]

@@jahleel0077 😂 🙄 yeah and also internet racial twins exist.

[@zarinaa1135]

Dude, Mole Man should be played by John Ratzenberger! I don't know if he's short, but since he was the Underminer, basically the Mole-Man of The Incredibles who are already just the FF, it would be such a great in-joke! Plus, I don't think he's doing much other than the Pixar cameos, might be nice to give him that gig.

[@noprize]

As much fun as it might be to see the FF fight Moleman, we all know that MCU heroes are required to fight villains with their same power set. Therefore the villain of the MCU Fantastic Four debut movie WILL be the Super Skrull.

[@phreshking5747]

Lol @ 3:21"he's just.." then that switch back to John krasinski face🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@topheye6318]

I just realized that the Incredibles, clearly inspired by the fantastic 4 (the first family of comics) end up fighting the underminer at the end of the movie, a similar character to the moleman. Fun stuff 😊

[@Chuck_EL]

Im glad you acknowledged that there's adults out here who should know better that the Incredibles was a fantastic four homage They really think the Incredibles came first ....kids or teens doing that makes sense

[@KaSyl_Town]

I think the missed opportunity Mr.Fantastic would be Brandon Routh. He looks the part, he'd be great at it, and he's got roughly the right age too. He's also a huge fan of comic stuff, most famously playing Superman in returns.

[@steelguru]

Brandon Routh is crazy perfect as a superhero.

[@CometStar100]

Yeah that would be my second choice for the role. Kransinki is still number 1 to me and Routh would be my second choice for the role.

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

Rahul Kohli and Dakota Johnson would be INCREDIBLE to see up there. Would make such charismatic performances.

[@najbgaj]

I’d love to see Nicole Beharie as Sue, i feel like she’d bring those chips to the role. Just my opinion though

[@MyTwoCentsofNonsense]

Yoooooo Toby Kebbell is the goat for everything he is in!!! I’d love to see him as a Doom but with, you know, screen time.

[@CharlesGouraudgaming]

I really like Chidi as Reed, especially because Kang is supposed to be a future descendant of Reed, and we've seen Kang in Loki. I will say that I think that Adam Sandler works better for Ben Grimm