Who were the AJIVIKA?

[@parthch1]

Please note that description of Ajivikas was given in Jain and Buddhist text so please take them with a pinch of salt as these were completing sects during that time.

[@mazda0]

I don't think either Buddhists or Jains presented the view of Ajivikas properly. The Buddhists' texts were complied hundreds of years of the Buddha's pirinirvana. They hardly represent the original Buddha's view about other religious schools. Ajivikism and Jainism were the two religious communities that had much more followers than that of the Buddha. Just thinking about this fact, you will not believe Ajivikas' doctrine was so simple as their rivals presented.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Yes, you're right that Buddhism and Jainism didn't present the subtleties of the Ajivika doctrine but we can only base our understanding on what sources we presently have. The Ajivika doctrine was definitely more nuanced but the fact that they were strict determinist is not disputed. Your statement about the Buddhist texts is not correct because the Tripitaka texts were compiled just after the death of Buddha.

[@TheOpposition]

Ajivikism and Jainism had more followers compared with boudha that just outrageous, The impact of Buddhism and buddha is profound in the hearts and minds of the South and southeast Asian populace. Ajivikism school is pretty close to Charwaka darshan, may not be the same but historically their takers were mighty limited. certainly cannot be said the same for Jainism but it certainly had equal or less impact compared to Buddhism. Try bringing in some attestation when such frivolous claims are made.

[@ariapinandita9240]

Maybe Ajivaka is Ajisaka/Aji Saka. A unifying figure on the island of Java... As we know, many refugees from the Kalingga kingdom moved to Java after losing the war against the Muria/Maurya dynasty and together with Sundanese people formed the Medang Keling kingdom (predecessor to the Mataram kingdom). Maybe Aji Saka's teachings entered the island of Java at this time... Many similar concepts, such as sukma/jiwa/atma, raga/body, etc... Ajisaka brought aksara (Hanacaraka script), agama (religion), and Saka calendar (still used today in hybrid form with the Hijriyah system, Pananggalan Jawa)...

[@ariapinandita9240]

If you are interested in Ajisaka's teachings, you can read about the concepts of Hyang, Sunda Wiwitan, Kapitayan, and other forms of syncretism (such as Kejawen, etc)...

[@TheOpposition]

Buddhism which originated in India, spread rapidly throughout South and Southeast Asia, becoming a dominant religious and cultural influence in countries such as China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Myanmar, and Cambodia. The teachings of the Buddha, such as the Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path, have had a profound impact on the philosophical and spiritual beliefs of the people in these regions. On the other hand, Ajivikism, which also originated in India, was a religion that believed in fate and predestination. It had a relatively small following and did not have the same level of influence and impact as Buddhism. Similarly, Jainism, which emphasizes non-violence and self-control, had a significant following in India but did not spread as widely as Buddhism in South and Southeast Asia. While these religions have played a role in the history of the region, it is important to recognize that Buddhism has had a much greater impact on the culture, society and spiritual beliefs of the people in South and Southeast Asia. It is crucial to be accurate and well-informed when making claims about historical religions and their followers.

[@kabirsinghmehrok]

Clean, concise video highlighting Ajivikas, loved it! I wonder how Ajivikas functioned and related to the common people? As in other traditions had a set of step/methodologies/traditions that a common man could follow to initiate into it and attain moksha. Was there something of this kind with ajivikas? Did they had temples or other places of worship? How did a comman man initiate into ajivika tradition?

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Although the evidence about their initiation ceremony is scant but it does appear that their initiation ceremony was quite tough. Most sources say that those seeking admission into the Ajivika fold were subjected to physical pain and hardships. If qualified then they were admitted to the Ajivika Sangh. They are no reference to temples or places of worship of the Ajivikas.

[@khushboomalviya3693]

Please make a video on Charvakas. They were considered hedonistic materialists by almost all other philosophies.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thank you for the suggestion. I will certainly make a video on this topic.

[@witchilich]

@@JayVardhanSingh A year later, still no video on Charvakas.

[@swagatochatterjee7104]

@@JayVardhanSingh please please a video on Charvaka

[@charbak9071]

@@swagatochatterjee7104 Have little patience,it is coming in near future.

[@HhshhsHh-dw3qq]

​@@charbak90713030😅

[@karenfabec3173]

VERY INNFORMATIVE ! Thank you Jays !

[@KitKrash]

What I find is that from what we know of Ajivika philosophy seems more aligned with true non-dual Advaita thinking than the idea of a good and bad karma. We can only be aware of vasanas and our awareness alone guides us to go beyond them. I had found some ascetic Advaitics who seemed contradictory in that even though they say they are beyond both desires and aversions, in action just beng ascetic shows them to be tethered to desire and aversions.

[@Arasa왕]

It's not same as Advita.

[@KitKrash]

@@Arasa왕 I am looking at it from a deeper philosophical speculation rather than a ‘follow the rule book’ approach. If you think about it (rather than follow what is told) there seems to be some parallel between determinism (Ajivika) and monism/pantheism (Advaita). A monist world would be deterministic and vice versa. They kind of prove each other’s world view.

[@Chen-gl9hm]

Both Ajivikas and Buddist were influenced by Nirgranthas i.e. early Jain's. The original is Jainas .

[@TarunKumar-uo5gn]

Jainism is only few decades older than Ajivikas and Buddhism.

[@BadassBikerOwns]

The original is the various Hindu monastic orders. Hinduism has traces of animism and polytheism in it, which is not found in the other more modern religions.

[@Arasa왕]

No

[@deveshsonam]

@@BadassBikerOwns let's all of us go back to IVC....figure out what their religion was....

[@BadassBikerOwns]

@D3V Indus Valley Civilization is not the beginning. Its the earliest found by archeologists.

[@ramachandraabhyankar802]

Very interesting ! Thank you, Sir !

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Glad you found it informative and please call me Jay. I am no Sir. :)

[@dharma01v]

Thank you for your presentation, it clarified a lot about the Ajivikas!

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Glad it was helpful!

[@meditatingbeastunleashed]

Thanks for making video i admire your work Once I have commented for video on ajanas and ajivikas and u made it 👍✌

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thank you. Glad you liked the video.

[@bikassolanki8105]

A couple of years back, I met 1 Ajivak in Rajasthan, Jaipur. I guess this sect still exists. He was speaking a lot against Lord Mahavir.

[@vaghpratap1577]

What was his name?

[@Maldoror1972]

Great channel!! Namaste, Jai Jinendra and Greetings from Germany!

[@indicaedits8692]

Great Video As always .I would like to know were Aijivikas vedic or non-vedic? and if Non-Vedic,do we find their mention in vedic literature? And also were Aijivikas astrologers as they believed in Determinism so they believed in fortune telling and if am right,it is said that the astrologer who predicted Buddha as most powerful ruler or a great spritual leader was ajivika?

[@JayVardhanSingh]

The Ajivikas rejected the supremacy of the Vedas, so there were Non-Vedic. Yes, you're right, the Ajivikas were known for practicing Astrology and divination. I don't know about the this particular story. But in the Buddhist sources there is a story that an Ajivika astrologer who was in the court of Bindusara prophesied about the greatness of Ashoka. If you have any reference about the Buddha story, please let me know.

[@xenzorygames4116]

@@JayVardhanSingh they only Rejected Vedas, apart from that they were so involved in Science. only during the time of Ashoka Ajivikas went into extinction.

[@xenzorygames4116]

well if you want to know about the history of Ajivikas, there are a lot of Videos on "Aaseevegam" it is said that the Ajivikas were in existence even during the time of Sanatana Dharma, they opposed the superiority of the Vedas, why you cannot find Ajivikas temples in the North Because most Temples were destroyed during the Mauryan Empire mainly during the time of Ashoka he destroyed those temples because Buddhists and Jains mainly opposed the Ajivikas idealogy, and yes Ajivikas too have temples, but you would find them a lot in southern parts of India, even today they are being practised and Brahmins do not do rituals in these temples because even according to Ajivikas rules Brahmins aren't allowed and they actually praise their Gods and Goddesses with meat. for example, if you did not Kali, Ayannar, Jaggamma are actually Ajivika Gods and Goddesses. Kali in Ajivikas are called "Kotravai" they say that she was the mother of all South Indians you see today. even the Cholas prayed to this Goddess during the time of war, then later when "Veidiga Mandham" or "Sanatana Dharma" was spread in South India, they even included Ajivikas Gods and Goddesses into their religion that is one of the reasons why Hinduism has way too many Gods and Goddesses. when these Sanatana Kings went and conquered many places where ever they went they just included the Natives Gods and Goddess into their Religion Sanatana Dharma. even today you can find Ajivikas temples in the Deep South. if you want more info I can provide you with some videos. Because I can see many South Indians trying to revive Ajivikas again, for example, if you see Ganesh were the symbol of Ajivikas he was not actually a God that is why you see there is no logic how a kid with an Elephant head can live, in Ajivikas Temples you can see Ganesh everywhere. even Ajivikas say that Shaivism and Vaishnavism were a Part of Ajivikas.

[@Chairman_LmaoZedong]

@@xenzorygames4116 lol, Ajivikas were atheists 😂

[@xenzorygames4116]

@@Chairman_LmaoZedong actually no... Nastika doesn't mean they are Atheists... they believed Humans as Being capable of being Gods...

[@padmashreeb3481]

Good well articulated history of Ajivikas. 👍

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thank you

[@magadhheritage]

Hello from Brabar caves

[@architsharma2877]

Ajivikas were like cool bros of ancient India 😂 "Nirvana, YOLO" 🤘 😅

[@user-wr4yl7tx3w]

Fascinating.

[@kujo5307]

Thanks, really a great video! Maybe there was a connection with the ancient greek philosophy of Parmenides who lived around the same time.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thank you! Yes, could be.

[@yuvarudra6602]

my dad used to tell when i was a child that our fate is writtn on our forehead by brahma before we r born. or born. funny thing is every philosophy is mixed in modern hinduism. maybe not by text but by the belief by the people. maybe even after ajivika declined some common belief was still followed by the people. funny.

[@prakashtiwari8003]

That's true

[@helenakarlsson4708]

How can the concept of prarabdha karma and free will exist simultaneously? I agree with these wise ajivikas, me. :)

[@Karan-wz7pt]

Great explaination.

[@shirshendughosh5900]

Very good content…Worth spending my time….

[@vinodkumaronline8737]

Very informative video.Keep it up

[@KRISHNAPRASATHSPHD]

What is charvaka or lokayutha? Can you make video?

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I will do a video on it in the future.

[@MichaelMarko]

Thanks. This was interesting.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Gupta_Dynasty]

@@JayVardhanSingh is that Hinduism is a branch of budhism is it so because no archeological evidence found vedic period..so is budhism is older than Hinduism?

[@anahita934]

@@Gupta_Dynasty nav buddhu propagandist.

[@Gupta_Dynasty]

@@anahita934 lindu sadatani copy paste of tantrayan budhhism

[@anahita934]

@@Gupta_Dynasty nav buddhu gajput aaya nav buddhu channels ke jhooth batane..

[@ashis445]

Askoka killed all ajivika brutally so that ajivika vanished

[@billybutcher6504]

Beta, Askokas father was himself Ajvaika😂😂😂

[@kashutosh9132]

Video nhi dekhi Ashoka provided patronage to Ajivikas and so did his successor

[@Agnostic7773]

​@@billybutcher6504that doesn't matter.. Ashoka even killed his brothers

[@AyushMishra-k4m]

​@@billybutcher6504Ashoka has killed nearly 18000 ajivikas

[@SK-re7vo]

​@@billybutcher6504Well his grandfather was Jain, but still Ashoka showed no mercy to Ajivikas and Jainas. He persecuted all those who he thought were a threat to Buddhism

[@kenkaneki4925]

What do hindu texts say about Ajvikas????

[@thaache6]

Nasthikas - disbilivers of Vedhas

[@anakhats8182]

Thank you for this vedio its very useful to my seminar presentation... Thank you so much...

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Glad it was helpful and all the best for your presentation.

[@harishrathee5863]

Sir, is there any doctrine text of ajivikas survived? Or any book about their philosophy including their dialogues/argument or their debates.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

No, there's no text of the Ajivikas that has survived today. But there's a book by A.L Basham on Ajivika. I have mentioned it in the description, you can take a look there. And btw I would be happy if you call me Jay. :-)

[@harishrathee5863]

@@JayVardhanSingh thank you very much, for your reply jay ^_^

[@letstrynspeak747mayur]

Is the koshal is present day gorakhpur

[@ApoorvKhandelwal]

Crisp..clear..concise....awesome video....loved to more about such lost ancient ideologies,. Regards

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Glad you liked it

[@user-wr4yl7tx3w]

I wonder without deities how Ajivika gained a following. Just seems like a necessary ingredient for popular appeal among the commons.

[@jinumohan3901]

Wow it's a good one & informative.thanks

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Glad you liked it

[@junebhattacharjee9669]

Good brief history 🙏

[@Shaylas]

Excellent information. Excessive hand gestures to the point of distracting.

[@rohandante]

Nice...

[@rajbidika9123]

Great explanation....

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Glad you liked it

[@onsight1318]

THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING, WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE ABOUT THE AJIVIKAS ??

[@JayVardhanSingh]

You can read this book. Most of the references in this video are from this book. History and Doctrines of the Ajivikas: A Vanished Indian Religion by A.L. Basham

[@vimalkumarsingh3557]

Very good video. It appears that some traits of Ajivikas have been assimilated in the larger canvass of Hinduism

[@xenzorygames4116]

because Hinduism is a Mixed Religion 7 Ancient Religions of India merged that is how Hinduism was created today. for example Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Smarktas, Aaseevegam or Ajivikas, etc... this is how Hinduism we have today.

[@xenzorygames4116]

@@CB-of2fw well gods like Ayannar in Tamil Nadu, Jagamma are Ajivikas Gods and Goddesses, they usually do not call them as Gods and Goddesses, but as Masters. they are still present in India but as a Part of Hinduism for example for Ayannar you will actually see these people actually providing Meat as Food for their Deities and sometimes even Wine and stuff, they are still present in southern parts of India as I said but as a part of Hinduism, but Brahmins do not enter these temples even today. you will only see certain groups of people pray to these Gods and Goddesses mainly in southern India. Go check Pictures of God Ayannar and stuff they are from this sect. plus Ajivikas were actually a Part of Ancient Indian Traditions and Culture but they did not disappear like said in the video because, during the Mauryan Empire, they were a persecuted Sect, literally their sages were Impaled to death with spears that is one of the bloody histories of the Ajivikas. even Ajivikas of today says that Shaivism and Vaishnavism were actually a part of Ajivikas only after the downfall of Ajivikas these Ideas spread and became their own sects and then fused within Hinduism of today.

[@rebel4769]

@@xenzorygames4116 But they all share sort of same philosphy and gods that why they all are same.

[@kashutosh9132]

​@@xenzorygames4116 I found that predecessor of Ashok - bindusar and successor of Ashok - Dasharath Maurya were patrons of ajivika sect Then how does your theory fit into Mauryan destroying this sect?

[@sriramannagarajan7257]

Is there any primary source available on Ajivikas?

[@JayVardhanSingh]

I don't think so.

[@buttegowda]

Are there any Ajivikas in existence today?

[@JayVardhanSingh]

No, I don't think so

[@ariapinandita9240]

If Ajivaka and Ajisaka/Aji Saka are the same person, then his teachings still exist on the island of Java (the concept of Hyang, Sunda Wiwitan, Kapitayan, Kejawen)...

[@Gulbahar1567]

You are great and most brilliant person on the planet, my request to you please make videos on indian military history from ancient India to now Step by step

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thank for these kind words and also for the suggestion. I will surely upload video about Military history in the near future. Thanks again.

[@pik0_2004]

Can u also make Video on CHARVAKA

[@Kushwahaji2708]

I m from aajivika sampraday bela

[@kashutosh9132]

​@@Kushwahaji2708what does it mean?

[@sahhaf1234]

can you also do kapalikas and kalamukhas?

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thanks for the suggestion. Will try to do videos on these topics as well.

[@sknewsup]

Rivial is absolutely wrong word and your are talking about a thought, I have a question if I found a २००० note on road is it my karma or fate.

[@TheAryavarata]

Manyawar Kanshiram ji ( Dalit ledaar) was also belong to Ajivika religion.

[@himadrimukherjee44]

Ashoka's father and Chandragupta Mauryas son emperor Bindusara was an Ajivika . He had sent an Ajivika shraman to Athens to preach his religion . Don't take the Ajivakas so lightly . Maybe centuries of destruction of their literatures by rival philosophical and religious groups have wiped off their dominant presence in the ancient world . So has happened with many other sects like Zoroastarians Kafiristanis of Afghanistan and Manichists of west asia . Only the Jews have survived and are a potential presence in the modern world . The Ajivikas were not so lucky . Maybe it was ordained in their destiny which they believed so much and they vanished 😟

[@parthch1]

Where did you get this information sir can you reference the text please

[@AmanRishitwenty15]

@@parthch1 thats why ashok went on to destroy ajivkas of kalinga, since he wasnt even rightful heir, he just usurped throne after his fathers death. Ashok has so much in common in Aurangzeb

[@kashutosh9132]

​@@AmanRishitwenty15 Didn't you watched this video? Ashok gifted several caves to ajivikas and his successor also was a patron to ajivikas It is said in vid under mauryans Ajivika were thriving after the empire declined ajivika started to disappear Otherwise can you give sources to your claim?any texts or something??

[@IndologistEra]

@@AmanRishitwenty15 व्हात्सप्प यूनिवरसिटि ???? केवल मौर्यकाल में ही अजीविको का सबसे अधिक विकास हुवा पुरातात्विक साक्ष्य के आधार पर, उसके बाद इस संप्रदाय का पतन हुआ अन्य राजवंश के समय। अशोकावदान पांचवी शताब्दी में लिखा गया मथुरा के महायानी बौद्ध भिक्षु द्वारा एक अप्रमाणिक ग्रंथ है , इसके अनुसार पुष्यमित्र अशोक का पोता था अलग वंश का नही था, और तमाम गलतियां है , ग्रंथ में जैनों और अजीविको को नीचा दिखाने की कोशिश की गई है। सम्राट अशोक ने अजीविको के लिए बिहार के बराबर की पहाड़ियों में 4 गुफाएं पहाड़ियों को कटवाकर बनवाई थी। जिनमे से चार गुफाओं में अभिलेख सुरक्षित है और पढ़े गए है , बाकी एक गुफा का अभिलेख पूरी तरह नष्ट हो गया है। अशोक के बराबर की पहाड़ियों के गुफा अभिलेख : (𑀮𑀸𑀚𑀺𑀦𑀸 𑀧𑀺𑀬𑀤𑀲𑀺𑀦 𑀤𑀼𑀯𑀟 𑀯𑀲𑀪𑀺𑀲𑀺𑀢𑁂𑀦𑀸 𑀇𑀬𑀁 𑀦𑀺𑀕𑁄𑀳𑀓𑀼𑀪𑀸 𑀤𑀺𑀦 𑀆𑀚𑀺𑀯𑀺𑀓𑁂𑀳𑀺) 1. लाजिना पियदसिना दुवाडस वसा [ भिसितेना ] 2. इयं निगोह-कुभा दिना आजीविकेहि हिन्दी अनुवाद : 1. बारह वर्ष अभिषिक्त होने पर राजा प्रियदर्शी द्वारा 2. यह नयग्रोध गुफा आजीवकों को दी गई। १ - लाजा पियदसी एकुनवी- २ - सति वसाभिसिते जलघो ३ - सागमें थातवे इयं कुभा ४ - सुपिये आजीविकेहि खलतिक पवतसि दि ५ - ना। हिन्दी अनुवाद: १ - राजा प्रियदर्शी ने उन्नीस २ - वर्ष अभिषिक्त होने पर वर्षा काल ३ - के उपयोग के लिए यह सुप्रिया गुफा ४ - सुन्दर खलतिक पर्वत पर आजीविकों को दिया १ - लाजिना पियदसिना दुवा- २ - डस-वसाभिसितेना इयं ३ - कुभा खलतिक पवतसि ४ - दिना आजीवि केहि हिन्दी अनुवाद : १ - राजा प्रियदर्शी द्वारा २ - बारह वर्ष अभिषिक्त होने पर यह ३ - गुफा खलतिक पर्वत में ४ - आजीविको को दी गयी ♦इसके अलावा सम्राट अशोक ने अजीविकों के लिए धम्म-महामात जिनका काम संप्रदाय के विकास का ध्यान देना था और बाकि जरूरत का सामान मुहायिया करवाना था : १४ - खानापापितानि निंसिढया च कालापिता [ । ] आपानानि में बहुकानि तत तत कालापितानि पटी भोगाये पसु मुनिसानं [ । ] ल [ हुके ] [ सु ] एक पटीभोगे नाम [ । ] विविधाया हि सुखायनाया पुलिमेहि पि लाजीहि ममया च सुखयिते लोके [ । ] इमं चु धम्मानुपटीपती अनुपटीपजन्तु ति एकदथा मे १५ - एस कटे [ । ] देवानंपिये पियदसि हेवं आहा [ । ] धम्म-महामाता पि मे ते बहुविधेसु अठेसु आनुगहिकेसु वियापटासे पवजीतानं चेव गिहिथानं चन [ च ] सव- [ पांस ] डेसु पि च वियापटासे [ । ] संघठसि पि मे कटे इमे वियापटा होहन्ति ति हेमेव बाभनेस आजीविकेसु पि मे कटे (अशोक का सातवाँ स्तम्भलेख) १५ - ये सब किए गये। देवताओं के प्रिय प्रियदर्शी राजा ने ऐसा कहा। मेरे द्वारा धर्म महामात्र की नियुक्ति बहुविध लोककल्याणकारी कार्यों के लिए की गयी है। वे प्रति गृहस्थों और सभी धार्मिक सम्प्रदायों में नियुक्त है ये संघ के कार्यों के देखरेख के लिए मेरे द्वारा नियुक्त हैं। इसी प्रकार ब्राह्मणों तथा आजीविकों में १६ - निर्ग्रन्थों में मेरे द्वारा ये व्याप्त हैं, अनेक धार्मिक सम्प्रदायों में भी मेरे द्वारा ये व्याप्त है। विविध श्रेणियों तथा बहुत से कार्यों के लिए अनेक महामात्र है किन्तु धर्ममहामात्र इनमें तथा अन्य सब सम्प्रदायों के लिए नियुक्त है। देवताओं के प्रिय प्रियदर्शी राजा ने ऐसा कहा

[@midfielderlounge2592]

​@@AmanRishitwenty15aurangzeb wasj

[@mr.himalayan6258]

Forgot all, but in how much time before that is 3,000 years ago, they discarded god and told atoms and universal forces are the main thing.

[@xenzorygames4116]

it is from Ajivika we have Astrology, Medicine, etc... and yup of course Buddhists and Jains thought Ajivikas were fools. actually, if you did not know there is a Revival of Ajivikas is coming again it has already begun again in the Southern parts of Andhra Karnataka and Tamil Nadu.

[@shreepadbhat8720]

Really? How are they reviving?

[@studyplusmathematics562]

😂😂

[@premprasun1516]

They are majorly anti Dharma communists

[@kashutosh9132]

​@@sanjaygowda1143why are you laughing on him?

[@charbak9071]

@@kashutosh9132 Because of Science.Chandrayana 3 has landed on the south pole of moon yet these people want to revive Makhali Goshala !😜😂🤣🤗

[@SurendarKshatriya]

Neithi means law of nature (justice) in Tamil language

[@nopek1405]

It is a sanskrit word, which is borrowed in Tamil.

[@kenkaneki4925]

​​@@nopek1405yes it's similar to the word 'Niyati' from Sanskrit

[@nopek1405]

@@kenkaneki4925 actually they are using same word with little difference in pronounciation, in reality,tamil has hundreds of words of Sanskrit language.

[@kenkaneki4925]

​@@nopek1405true

[@charbak9071]

That is a currupted word of Niyati!(Destiny or Fate)

[@mr.himalayan6258]

Can someone tell me, when the atheism was born in Bharat? Some say Charvak and some say ajivikas are atheists, who are in reality the actual atheist

[@Arasa왕]

He's not the founder of Ajiveeka. He's Markali Kosalar of Tamil Nadu from ancient southern India. He was a monk who spread Tamil Aasivagam. The Three Ayyanars worshiped by people in Tamil Nadu are the real founders. That's why their statues are oy in Tamil Nadu and bhramins never could loot them in the name of Sanadhan.

[@kenkaneki4925]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kenkaneki4925]

According to Tamils everything in this world originated from Tamil Nadu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😅😂😅😂😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kenkaneki4925]

Everything in the world was and is Tamil and that which is not Tamil was also Tamil but Brahmins gave it to them 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@iamDamaaldumeel]

​@@kenkaneki4925so be it... better than accepting anything and everything in the name of veda and sanskrit!

[@erenyaeger9407]

​@@iamDamaaldumeellol, no

[@abdulaleem9207]

subscribed!

[@JayVardhanSingh]

thank you

[@abdulaleem9207]

@@JayVardhanSingh welcome. i was reading prof basham's book on this subject. we might never know with certainity as to what happened during this period.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

true

[@sagnik3556]

@@abdulaleem9207 what book are you talking about?

[@abdulaleem9207]

@@sagnik3556 history and doctrines of ajivika : a vanished indian religion

[@golgumbazguide...4113]

Explore Golgumbaz

[@hoho6708]

Ajivika 👍

[@iabhiroop]

Excellent video. Died laughing in some parts xD

[@patel6029]

Dear Jay , Plz Make vedio on Chalukyas oF Lata Me Navsari se hu ( South Gujarat ) Navsari Capital tha Gujarat me iske bare me koi jankaari nahi hai Unhone Arabo se bhi Ladai ki thi Gujarat History me iska koi ullekh nahi .

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thank you for your suggestion, I am well aware that the Chalukyas aren't well known and I will make a video on them. I hope you can wait a little for that because I will have to cover earlier topics first so that the audience can truly appreciate this history of the Chalukyas of Lata. But rest assured, I will make the video on Chalukyas of Lata and also on Seuna (Yadava Dynasty) which you've earlier requested.

[@adityaanand1621]

Jay Vardhan Singh chalukyas of gujrat were a rajput dynasty ?

[@RandomBiologist]

seems like genetics to me where the fate of each cell and the actions it shall perform are pre determined in the genetic codes

[@ytubeguruji863]

Basically, the apt religion of political class 🤫

[@ವರುಣ್ರಾಜು]

4 religions were born around 6th century- Jain, Budh,Charvaka, Ajivaka. After seeing the anarchy that Carvaka brought all people left it and many removed all its propogators. They can be called as the 1st woke people in human kind just way too cold of heart

[@JayVardhanSingh]

I don't think this is true for Jains. It was during the period of Lord Mahavira, that Jainism achieved its final form but before this period it definitely existed.

[@SivaPrasad-zy1ci]

The Ajivikas are Correct, we are living in a "Maya" that is a Virtual Reality Program of the Creator which is Purely Time Bound.

[@rupeshvaingankar5422]

True !

[@rupeshvaingankar5422]

Bro, I felt it too & wanna understand more about it !

[@SivaPrasad-zy1ci]

@@rupeshvaingankar5422, we are liveing in a Energy Dimensions, the liveing Cells are Energy Converters Created by the Creators Realms for Recycling Their Losing Energy by Liveing Cells of Plants and Animals So They Created this Maya world, which is a Virtual Reality of The Creators lives in Other Energy Dimensions of the Universe as Immortals.

[@avijitchowdhury8424]

Before Islam came to India Sanatana Dharma divided in many sect

[@tattvamashi]

There was no Sanatan Dharma here, everyone is seeking their own way.

[@kashutosh9132]

9:02 😂 Jay you are true ajivika!

[@chromejaeger]

So basically keep living as you are living now, but just under the Aajivika banner for extra clout. 😂

[@mihirsolanki6963]

Destiny determine everything man is powerless.

[@DharitriKochari]

आजीविका टुडे जैन

[@prakashtiwari8003]

Wrong, philosophy of aajivika is now subdued in Hinduism. They don't have individual existence.

[@DharitriKochari]

@@prakashtiwari8003 badla hua rup Jain

[@DharitriKochari]

@@prakashtiwari8003 tum kuch bhi kaho Satya nahi badal pawoge na

[@prakashtiwari8003]

@@DharitriKochari lmao, I am no body to change anything. I am just stating facts. If you don't agree then it's upto you. That's not my concern.

[@ravikumarvajjala1951]

dont propagate wrong dates told by west. please buddism and jainism are not 6th century but as per indic books should be more far earlier.

[@witchilich]

buddhist and jain dates as per buddhist calendars and jain traditions, not conspiracy theorists in youtube comment section. Buddha's dates are based on Indian and Sinhalese buddhist canons. Indian texts like Vinaya Pitaka date him to 448 BCE (this is called Short Chronology). The Sinhalese Buddhist texts like Mahavamsa and Dipavamsa date him to 624 BCE. The former is called Short Chronology and the latter is called Long Chronology. Modern Chronology accepted by historians is between these two chronologies. What you are calling "indic texts" are actually Chinese texts(also in Vietnam, Korea and Japan) . They have various dates from 949 BCE to 2420 BCE. These are not historically accepted. Its pretty funny. You guys are rejecting the traditional canons maintained in India and Sri Lanka, calling them "western dates". And embracing East Asian canons instead. "We laugh at u, not with u." You really love these low effort overused WhatsApp jokes to validate yourself. For others who don't follow narratives by Abhijit Chavda fans who only get their info from WhatsApp/Facebook groups, read "Date of the Buddha" by Karam Tej Sarao, former head of Buddhist Studies in Delhi University (from his book Buddhism and Jainism (Encyclopedia of Indian Religions)). Indian historical events are dated based on linguistic, philological, archaeological, paleographic and numismatic studies of our history. But the consipiracy theorists made a canon based on the Chinese texts that say Buddha was born in 949 BCE (ignoring our own canon in Indian texts) where Mauryan Empire was contemporary to Cyrus and Gupta Empire was around 4th century BCE (ignoring Ashoka's Greek inscriptions which mentions his contemporary rulers in Greece, Egypt and Selucid Empire). Clearly the conspiracy theorists don't read the Indian texts that they think they believe in.

[@ringostarr1038]

@@witchilich o.o most of the dates west presents for Indians is false. It can be proven any time, any day. We laugh at u, not with u.

[@witchilich]

@@ringostarr1038 ​ Buddha's dates are based on Indian and Sinhalese buddhist canons. Indian texts like Vinaya Pitaka date him to 448 BCE (this is called Short Chronology). The Sinhalese Buddhist texts like Mahavamsa and Dipavamsa date him to 624 BCE. The former is called Short Chronology and the latter is called Long Chronology. Modern Chronology accepted by historians is between these two chronologies. What you and the the @ravikumarvajjala1951 are calling "indic texts" are actually Chinese texts(also in Vietnam, Korea and Japan) . They have various dates from 949 BCE to 2420 BCE. These are not historically accepted. Its pretty funny. You guys are rejecting the traditional canons maintained in India and Sri Lanka, calling them "western dates". And embracing East Asian canons instead. "We laugh at u, not with u." You really love these low effort overused WhatsApp jokes to validate yourself. For others who don't follow narratives by Abhijit Chavda fans who only get their info from WhatsApp/Facebook groups, read "Date of the Buddha" by Karam Tej Sarao, former head of Buddhist Studies in Delhi University (from his book Buddhism and Jainism (Encyclopedia of Indian Religions)). Indian historical events are dated based on linguistic, philological, archaeological, paleographic and numismatic studies of our history. But the consipiracy theorists made a canon based on the Chinese texts that say Buddha was born in 949 BCE (ignoring our own canon in Indian texts) where Mauryan Empire was contemporary to Cyrus and Gupta Empire was around 4th century BCE (ignoring Ashoka's Greek inscriptions which mentions his contemporary rulers in Greece, Egypt and Selucid Empire). Clearly the conspiracy theorists don't read the Indian texts that they think they believe in.

[@asifhassan4980]

Fatalists !!

[@yuvarudra6602]

dont take it serious. itz just the funny message. 😝😝😝😝 vithi. fate. ur fate is to make historical videos and our fate is to watch ur videos. ur fate is to take praise or bombard from the viewers and the viewes fate is to watch and praise or bombard the viewer. 🤪🤪😝😝😝