Who Will be Added to the Standard Banner in Genshin Impact?

[@RedFlaim]

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[@lowoto]

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[@stanleytandiono4857]

I think they should try make banners for the region specific characters(maybe same for their weapons) like one for monsthads characters,one for liyue characters and etc and maybe lock all them except monsthad first incase they couldn't get their accession materials and to unlock those banner you just need to unlock one the statue of the seven in their respected region

[@Asm0sday]

RedFlaim ,they can just make triple banner and up if they want Plus if they get add to standard or something it will be harder to get them since they are no longer limited because they are in a permanent banner,so no more rerun.

[@Batsarelikeme]

@@stanleytandiono4857 smart

[@katvos]

I could definitely see them doing something like a "Mondstadt Banner", "Liyue Banner" etc. during regional events/festivals in the future

[@slaybutton1692]

Tbh I like this idea to help with reruns. Instead of adding more standard banners they could just have a "super banner" during a more extended time for special region based events. And even better if they get added onto the event banner as 50/50 loss options during those times

[@rogue5648]

@@slaybutton1692 and that you can choose path of banner wich will be the one on rate up. for ex. you choose albedo and you have albedo banner

[@fardareismai4495]

This would be awesome honestly, I like the idea of a "course" on those banners too.

[@IWannaFeelSumTits]

@@rogue5648 that would be cool as hell

[@AubreyMK]

you are welcome

[@nat-cj8be]

I personally think there could potentially be one more 5 star added to the standard after tighnari and it will be a completely new character. so far the standard banner has a 5 star for every element minus dendro and geo. tighnari will obviously fill that vacant spot for dendro when he’s released which leaves geo as the only element not having a 5 star on the standard. so IF they were to add another 5 star character i think it would be a brand new geo wielder but i doubt they would be adding any more after that and this is if hoyoverse decide to add another at all

[@jimmyrebel9385]

true. they will not add characters who were marketed as "limited" into standard banner

[@downhill18]

And a Polearm is the only missing weapon type

[@eniobiondi2749]

I hope that if hoyoverse do add a geo, it would be a dps

[@seizure4059]

geo polearm i think

[@kylesmith987]

Its definitely interesting that the standard banner does not have a GEO 5 star. I personally think this is because Ningguang was originally supposed to be the 5 star Geo character and for some reason they moved her to 4 star. This is just speculation but there is some data to back the idea that Ningguang was originally designed as a 5 star.

[@TheCheeseman1983]

I feel like we’re ignoring the most important criterion here: what would motivate HoYo to add an existing limited character to the standard banner? Obviously, Tignari was added because he’s the first dendro character, and they want to provide permanent access to that element. However, we can’t really make a list of viable candidates without first knowing what purpose they are intended to serve.

[@pyronado4320]

The game has run for too long and the playerbase has plateau'd and we are at a point that the less popular characters are not making enough money to give them a banner Ofc it's a hypothetical situation

[@saaishpanhalkar6714]

The sales of acquaint fates being low can be a possible reason and if they add older five stars in new standard it can give many new whales a chance to get them

[@Galuxius]

@@saaishpanhalkar6714 You guys just say stuff that you think makes sense when it clearly doesn't no "whale" would blindly throw money at a 2% chance of getting a specific 5 star on a standard pity. If that were the case, you would have seen people rolling standard on release but the only people who did that were attention seeking youtubers. Anyone who rolls every unit has every standard 5 star. You aren't a whale if you don't regularly roll constellations and if you're in that position you would have no reason to roll standard.

[@doplop]

they dont sell well thats why

[@Galuxius]

@@doplop Something doesn't sell well so let's give it away for free??? Make that make sense. No one will ever roll standard for a 2% chance of getting Albedo, the whole benefit of them changing standard is you can lose pity to those characters. How does that make them money...

[@angelicanosoul2679]

Honestly I'm kinda glad Tighnari is going into the Standard Banner since I already promised to surrender my Primos and wallet to Ganyu

[@kaixofr]

If you want tighnari, pull on his banner. Your chance of pulling him out of the the standard pool is extremely slim.

[@juglover3000]

Me too, ganyu is queen and while I wouldn’t be upset if I lost a future 50-50 to tighnari, right now I would rather use my guaranteed five star for ganyu

[@angelicanosoul2679]

@@juglover3000 Same :) Except I reset my pity rolling for a Kazuha so now I gotta scrape some primos before her banner comes. Thank god it the second phase

[@kaixofr]

@@ewybean that’s correct but even so that’s still a 1/6 chance of getting him.

[@juglover3000]

@@angelicanosoul2679 I got kazu too, just lost 50-50 on klees banner which I’m honestly happy about since now I have guaranteed for ganyu- I had a lot of wishes because I got birthday money lmao so hopefully i can save enough for ganyu since unfortunately my birthday is only once a year lmao

[@downhill18]

Now that Tignari is being added to the standard banner Geo is only element that going to be missing and Polearm being the missing weapon type (I seriously doubt that Hoyo will add Zhongli and get over with), so I really hope we get a new 5-star Geo Polearm soon and that they'd be added to the standard banner. 🤞🏻

[@amandaslough125]

Can we get a sandy boi who uses the alt sprint so I can run around as a mini sandstorm?

[@froeloe]

@@amandaslough125 that’s so creative. i have always wondered what the other alternative elemental sprints will be like. cryo = as ice mist; freezes water after you emerge from sprint hydro = as shimmering water splashes anemo = as a linear gust of wind electro = as an electric current; electrifies water after you emerge from sprint geo = as a moving dusty sand-smoke dendro = as glowing green vines slithering on the ground pyro = as fireball; burns the grass after you emerge from sprint

[@hapinah2845]

​@@amandaslough125 bro i need t h i s

[@veeistiredasf]

@@amandaslough125 bonus points if it temporarily blinds enemies, kinda like the treasure hoarders that can throw dirt at us and decrease our accuracy cause we can't see lmao. would be hella cool imo

[@Wortigon2000]

@- SageAegis - with such a niche kit? Never in a million years. But if she had a proper kit, that'd fit more than a handful of possible team compositions, than she indeed might have been a good option.

[@vondertann8218]

I personally dont think Yoimiya and Yae Miko are good option since they needs Inazuma materials to level up and it take time to go there, Tighnari is put in because sumeru is connected to starting area by land and you can go there anytime.

[@coffeeaddict938]

Yes but its quest locked and you have to be ar 40

[@kocsisvirag1561]

Like I didn't got any 5* chars before ar 55, Tighnari seems good.

[@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58]

Yae's ascension is the Vishaps in Enkanomiya, probably the longest boss to reach

[@deductionsdiary105]

My dude Tighnari's skill mat uses Ei's mats

[@DLH112]

@@deductionsdiary105 IMO weekly boss mats are whatever. you can't go beyond talent level 6 until AR 40 anyway.

[@naweedalesserlordkushanali2949]

10:03 Eula can totally work with a superconduct build pre-Inazuma. Did you forget about Lisa?

[@sureyeah3678]

LMAO, i was about to comment, she literally show up exactly as he said it

[@PineappleLiar]

Not to mention Fischl is a pretty easy 4 star grab who’s whole thing is off field electro application. Sure sometimes the gacha gods can screw you over, but most people should get at least her c0 early on (my own kryptonite is Bennett who I only have at c1 at AR 57).

[@emopeterparker7]

i think its bc lisa, while obv a viable support for eula, only applies off field support via her burst which would need charging. and for fischl, perhaps its because shes more of single target and eula is more of aoe so theyre not a good fit? (assuming eula is aoe bc of her burst and claymore playstyle , let me know if this is wrong as i dont have nor know how to play eula much)

[@PineappleLiar]

@@emopeterparker7 Eula can certainly do aoe damage, but I’d probably describe her as a more single target nuke who just happens to do damage to nearby enemies who get caught in the blast radius. The way her burst works doesn’t really synergize with other units who specialize in grouping enemies, and can only really reliably get the first hit of her burst onto a large group before they spread out again (which is fair, given that Eula’s final burst hit would be stupid if it could be consistently applied to like 10 enemies at once). For comparison Hu Tao’s Q and E hit hard almost as soon as she hits the field, so I consider her more of a group damage dealer just because she can better take advantage of Kazuha/Venti’s enemy grouping. Before Raiden, Fishcl was a pretty good pick for Eula teams, though yeah the problem of Oz targeting the wrong enemy was still there. Raiden is unquestionably a better option, but has the obvious downside of not exactly being F2P viable.

[@emopeterparker7]

@@PineappleLiar thanks for the explanation! i suppose then that eula getting added to another standard banner won't be such a big problem for newer players since fischl is somewhat more accessible as a support

[@MomoMMDs]

Seeing how hoyoverse has a habit of doing something (that would be expected of them to do again in the future) and then completely forgetting about said thing, I doubt we'll get another character in standard banner anytime soon or that its something that will become a trend. Tighnari was probably added to the standard banned because he's a dendro bow user, and while we don't have a Geo character in standard, its probably because at the moment, geo is just yellow physical damage.

[@PiousMoltar]

"Yellow physical damage" haha yeah.... actually why on Earth isn't there a Geo - Dendro reaction planned? Like... duh

[@Satono3606]

@@PiousMoltar Maybe you should think what can Geo + Dendro can trigger first..

[@yeetirosina]

mossy rock be like

[@willyexp5394]

"geo is yellow physical damage" So true

[@dummydodo126]

@@Satono3606 rooted, crumble, erosion, seeded, planted, dusted, and many more!

[@LexiChannel]

I was recently talking about this with a friend and I had a nearly exact banner idea (I put Shenhe instead of Eula), except I based my selections on “who made the least amount of money for hoyo” and “who’s the least popular of that element”.

[@OfficialQueenAshfire]

What were the results?

[@PineappleLiar]

Lol for Electro it’s just Keqing again.

[@NothingMeansNothingButNothing]

@@PineappleLiar Keqing aren't limited character

[@PineappleLiar]

@@NothingMeansNothingButNothing the joke was that if you were basing the banner off characters by element with limited banners with the least amount of sales, then for electro you’d get Keqing because for some reason she got her own limited banner while still being in standard and it obviously didn’t sell very well.

[@OfficialQueenAshfire]

@@PineappleLiar at least Hers was higher than childe’s first and second banner

[@douglanmar]

Personally, I would like that Mihoyoverse added a brand new polearm Geo 5-star character to the Wanderlust Invocation banner, just so we have every element with every weapon. :)

[@udunatiu]

thats what i would like too, as much as i love albedo and reallt want him, i think it wouldnt suit him to be on the standard =banner

[@millesoup]

i think it's better if they just make new characters for the standard banner like tighnari... i'm trying to slowly get high constellations on certain characters by pulling on their reruns every year, and i'd be heartbroken if suddenly they were on standard and there was no guaranteed way to get them lmao

[@JulesVante]

I mean, they could always bring them to unique banners, as they did with Keqing. Imagine for example that for events related to festivities of a region the could bring several character banners that includes the ones that are already part of the standard banner. There are gacha games with fewer characters that release special "cards" near the birthday of certain characters. So they could also add a "Birthday Wish Banner", with a character being in a special banner a week before their birthday. They have endless ideas, but you know, greedy and money gets in the middle

[@GiveLamp]

I'd love to see Mihoyo implement rotating standard banners. Like there could be the original standard banner and then there could be several other standard banners with 5 5* characters that rotate with or alongside the original every patch or so. This would make rerunning characters easier since there are already so many 5*s with more to be added while still keeping them somewhat limited (which Mihoyo wants bc it makes them more money).

[@hatooniewoomy]

I really think this idea is the most likely to happen, but mihoyo still wants money at the end of the day so it could take years for them to even begin to think of this ☠

[@morpt4560]

This idea probably won't happen because of the fact that the "Wanderlust Invocation" is marked as a permanent banner so the most likely thing to happen is that we just get a new/second standard banner all together so they don't get in trouble with laws & what not

[@hatooniewoomy]

@@morpt4560 i mean all they have to do to make this "rotating banner" concept is have a different name for it then wanderlust invocation...so 👀

[@silverhawkscape2677]

This is precisely why I've been saving all my Acquaint fates. Nothing like having 90+ pulls when the time comes.

[@lazagna6969]

thats a level of self control

[@海誠ー]

@@lazagna6969 ikr like HOW

[@anapple6912]

Lol I have 10 only imma start wishing when tighnari gets added into the banner. It’s pretty hard not to wish cause I want xingqiu

[@Yua_69]

@@anapple6912 i have xinqiu lmaoo

[@notraidenshogun8324]

Sameeee i have 70 saved and my last pull was keqing at 25 pity after keqing herself. Now i hope i get Jean after tighnari is added.

[@raety3941]

The only fair way i see to introduce a new standard character is to notify players beforehand that this character is not exclusive - and that's what they made to tighnari. It's always better to inform players and let them spend wisely. Some customers pay, well, for EXCLUSIVITY of the exclusive character, something rare and not available anytime. Otherwise they wouldn't spend this much. I know how hard is to get a character from standard banner, but you have infinite time to try, while event banner lasts around 20 days and gone for year. That's why starter accounts with ganyu cost much more than starter qiqi.

[@raety3941]

And also legal system is not so dumb, and it's always better to make yourself safe and don't make people mad about money they spend on your game duh

[@IckusVickus]

Found the guy who was gatekeeping Kazuha pre-2.8 -_- Also, pretty sure buying accounts is illegal

[@raety3941]

@@IckusVickus i found person that supposedly can't read What's wrong with informing people about actual rarity of an offer so they can make their decision accordingly

[@raety3941]

@@IckusVickus where is gatekeeping? I respect people who spend their money and effort to get Kazuha, that's why suddenly adding him to standard will be unfair for them

[@meco7956]

I think its still fair since you dont have a guaranteed chance to get them. There isnt really any other ways since many 5 stars are coming and doing double and triple re-runs have their own flaws.

[@cofeespear4992]

Honestly I don't think story importance 5 stars like Childe or even the Archons will ever be on standard banner due to 1) the harbingers are literally part of the main two enemy factors we are currently fighting 2) the archons are the best in game units who are connected to the overarching story in a big way from celestia to khaenri'ah

[@emptyallen3334]

"Main enemy factors" You mean Celestia?

[@cofeespear4992]

@@emptyallen3334 sure, us players know and can tell celestia is pretty bad but story wise the traveler only knows that the abyss and the fatui is the people doing the huge bad things so far. Main enemy Faction in Monstadt was the abyss, Lyiue it was the fatui, Inazuma it was a mixed of Raiden and the fatui. So far we seen nothing RECENT for the traveler in game to know celestia is the big baddie.

[@emptyallen3334]

@@cofeespear4992 Traveler quests on Dragonspine's Celestial nail with literal murals of Celestia shutting down a civilization with a nail. Dain quests revealing how Celestia destroyed Khaenri'ah and cursed their citizens to turn into self loathing monsters that eventually die. Zhongli being sussy telling Traveler why he can't tell him why they destroyed Khaenri'ah on his story quest. Raiden saying that she cut off her connection to Celestia, and many more.

[@cofeespear4992]

@@emptyallen3334 but is there cutscenes or dialouge talking about those murals (mind you Dragonspine is not needed for the main line non event story quests), in both Dain quests all of traveler's attention was on the abyss/sibling, Zhongli just says that he can't talk about it due to his contract with celestia and traveler's question was mainly about what happened back then and if they knew of their sibling, and Ei just says that she severely her connection with celestia long ago aka her throwing away the gnosis and that she has no clue what happened back there 500 yrs ago as it was over when she came.

[@emptyallen3334]

@@cofeespear4992 If you interact with the murals in the quest: Ancient Carvings: "...snow whipped across the skies. The pillar that fell from the heavens was riven in three..." Although Dragonspine isn't included in any Archon Quests, it is still in Teyvat and Traveler would've explored there anyway so it technically is Canon to the story. Although Dainsleif quests' focus was the Abyss/Sibling, there are still dialouges of Dain talking about what Hilichurls are and we even focused on Khaenri'ah Royal Guards being the product of Celestia cursing them. Pretty much in the traveler's face If you read my comment, "Zhongli being sussy telling Traveler why he can't tell them" So yeah Zhongli alr told traveler abt the Contract with Celestia, it is blatantly obvious that he was silenced by Celestia through the Contract. Which is sussy nonetheless. (Because if someone made a contract to tell him in exchange for the info abt Khaenri'ah, he would likely agree which is big No-No to Celestia) Ei cut her connection with Celestia because of Makoto's death. She was given the Electro Gnosis right after and became the Electro Archon, but seeing that it was the one of last remaining things that her Sister (other than inazuma) , she refused to use said gnosis and gave it to Yae for safekeeping . or fir another reason that Ei never tells the traveler which makes Celestia sussy even without going to different evidences that aren't included in Archon Quests (Orobaxi, Enkanomiya, lore heavy books/items,) and generally exploration that points to this very obvious evidence that Celestia is sus.

[@evangreen4391]

The should add Klee she’s beginner friendly and she’s basic and nothing crazy so she perfect for the tendered/beginner banner

[@towa7916]

Nope, she's hard to build and hard to play lol. Beginners without dodging skills and Bennet, Diona, Qiqi or Zhongli will keep dying non stop, and they may also waste her burst without even realizing. They should add easy dps characters instead of technical characters like Klee. I have her yet I still don't have her best 4star weapon even tho I'm ar 55. Plus I'm still suffering at the crimson domain(it will get way better after the 3.0 update tho). It also took me a day or two to get used to her move set while I literally got used to Hutao in 10 mins. So she is a great dps with potential but she is not f2p friendly, none of the craftable weapons suits her at this point and she in a niche one so nope, not basic or begginer friendly in my opinion.

[@evangreen4391]

@@towa7916 ok maybe different people will have different experiences and find her really easy

[@hannahdurante4571]

​@@evangreen4391 Yes;; you don't really need to play optimally or have the best artifacts when you're a beginner lol. I got her as a beginner, she's a great early DPS and fun to play with in my experience :)

[@evangreen4391]

@@hannahdurante4571 I just play for fun I’m ar 32 I don’t care about optimal artifacts and weapons I think our opinion are different because you care more about good artifacts and weapons than me I think our playstyles affects our opinons

[@aoitakumi9081]

@@evangreen4391 Klee is kinda complex to play for beginners though especially with her animation cancelling. She also has short range for a catalyst. I wouldn't mind her being in standard but she's not easy for beginners to use. Some will find her easy, I personally think she's okay but 4 of my friends I have to teach them how to use her properly.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

The easiest Answer is Legality. Specifically Chinese laws on Advertising something as Limited time in Gacha, only to make it part of the Permanent banner. The only characters they'll add to the Standard Banner are new Characters. The only way Xiao or Albedo will get on a Permanent Banner is a completely separate new Banner specifically for them.

[@potofgreeed]

didnt he say that in the video

[@silverhawkscape2677]

@@potofgreeed Yeah..

[@Toonrick12]

I feel like Hoyoverse has enough money to hire some Yanfei level lawyers to comb though the law and see how and where they might be able to put past 5 Star characters in the Standard banner.

[@infiniteaj8688]

They've done this in Honkai Impact. They've had multiple battle suits who were originally released as 'limited time', having their own supply, but were eventually added to Dorm supply, Honkai's permanent supply. The only difference is that Genshin has a much larger following and will probably be observed much more closely, so they may not be able to get away with it here.

[@digichu007]

@@infiniteaj8688 When you look at Honkai battle-suits in the fine print, it doesn’t say they’re limited. “Limited time” rate up is different from “limited character” which says “will not be added to ‘standard’ banner”. If you look at FGO, Evertale, Black Surge Night, etc, it defines limited character as “this character will not be added to standard banner” in their fine print. FGO added Tamamo to standard banner months after her debut in Halloween because it never said she was a limited character for example.

[@IzzyBellBee]

Ok listen, I don’t know how but I got Tighnari on the first pull, and when I heard it takes a lot more than just one I was like “dang I got some good luck-“

[@annaairahala9462]

4:02 it's not actually a 1/16 chance to get the character. There is some kind of "50/50" when it comes to weapons and characters in the standard banner in which it's something like every three 4*s or 5*s you are guaranteed to have one weapon and one character, either that or it's every 270 wishes for 5*s or 30 wishes for 4*s, I'm not sure which tbh. The point being that it's not an even pool between characters and weapons

[@bluefenneris9009]

are you referring to the fact that the standard banner has a hidden system where you are guaranteed a 5* weapon after 2 5* characters and vice versa

[@EclipticRaisin]

The 50/50 thing will help predict which kind of 5-star or 4-star you’ll get on standard, but not a specific character or weapon. Like if you’re hoping for Stringless but get Favonius Sword. The probability is not 1/16, but boy is it still low. Plus the chance of getting constellations and refinements instead of a new standard.. I wouldn’t risk it

[@Meme-pg5tw]

As someone who got childe on his first rerun He is way harder to use compared to the rest of the list especially if you dont have guides avalible

[@Akeyins]

is he? i feel like i never had an issue with his skill uptime management, but i also use him on heart of depth and use the buff for that as an indicator of when i've been on him too long and need to swap out. and i leveled his normal attacks so i can just use him in whatever stance lol

[@fizzyjam]

just use him as a xiangling enabler and boom he isnt hard to play

[@azurisage]

When xiangling's burst end that's when you swap out

[@figlet6427]

Admittedly he can be hard to manage if you don't know his kit, but most players search up guides or just play casually anyway, so I don't think that's a problem O. O he carried me from low AR all the way to abyss 12

[@theinfantmetroid]

if you play genshin you have an internet connection so you have guides available.

[@figlet6427]

I'd love for them to do a second wonderlust banner, but they'd also need to give high AR players more ways to get the blue fates😔 once you clear the trees and everything, you get a minuscule amount of them.

[@veeistiredasf]

they should start adding blue fates as rewards for completing archon quests, or difficult-ish quests in general cause i'm sure many ran out of ways to get them other than monthly shop which is still off limits to those who are saving and don't have the stardust for it

[@adityawidarma3803]

The only thing missed is the 5 star weapon set. The only 5 star weapon set on the standard banner is the Skyward set. Other than that we still don't have other set beside the region billet set

[@Chopsparillo]

It would probably just be the Vortex Vanquisher set tbh

[@bbysiea]

kinda confused here, what do you mean by ONLY skyward? my friend got primoridal winged jade spear on standard on their main and alt, (xiao didnt have a run then and i was watching them pull on discord, didnt see the alt but i did see them get it on standard) just a bit confused since i know the only all 5 star weapons that are there is skyward, not the jade set, (jadecutter, primoridal jade ect) but it is possible to get other 5 star weapons

[@Chopsparillo]

@@bbysiea I think they meant an entire set. Pjws is the only jade weapon on standard while the rest are limited weapons.

[@bbysiea]

@@Chopsparillo makes sense, ty! didn’t know much about weapons till i got my first 5 star one at AR 55 from the two free standard wishes you get from lvl 8 lumenstone in the chasm

[@Hafiere]

First of all, I think your picks for a second permanent banner are pretty solid. I think just adding more Limited Banners per update is the way to go. So long as reruns occur more often than once a year, I would prefer that to having more than 7 characters that are extremely unlikely to get their own banner in the future. Keqing already set a precedent of that one Standard Banner character that never got her own banner after the first. Praying my lost 50:50 lands on Qiqi or Jean is already hard enough with 5 options, imagine there being 14 once there are 2 standard banners with 7 characters each. Now imagine there being a third or fourth standard banner. Imagine wanting to C6 a standard banner character. It would take either extreme luck or extreme whaling to do that.

[@ChandlerNWilson]

This was super interesting! Thanks for sharing. :') I think as time goes on, it would make sense for them to add another banner. To be honest, it even makes sense from a financial perspective. I believe players would be more likely to spend money for those kinds of fates (presumably acquaint fates) which they likely haven't been buying as of late.

[@socktoast636]

Even without new characters, Mihoyo should definitely add some sort of epitomised path to the standard banner. There's a 1 in 15 chance to get what you want and that chance will be even slimmer if new characters are added

[@neejakan]

Its still weird how there no geo 5* on standard

[@海誠ー]

I think is cuz noelle summon but yeah its weird

[@hectorlackless]

I am glad you clarified the legality and morality of the issue I don't get people who want the event characterd to stay "special"

[@psyky]

"lets just put baizhu down as a placeholder" ......i've felt the lack of baizhu since the first lunar new year festival. hopefully we get him this lunar festival as its always in liyue

[@alport1331]

Evil Hoyo: **introduces Yaoyao** "She's a 5-star Dendro character." Fans: "Finally after all these years of waiting we can finally get her!" Also Evil Hoyo: "Let's put her in the Standard Banner instead." 😈

[@maretulili]

“Xiao is a very old character” Me who feels like he was added just yesterday: oh.

[@Ryo-jb4zn]

Imagine if they added xiao to the standard banner, seems really unlikely tbh By that logic they would be adding hu tao and ganyu as well I mean it wouldn't make sense if the standard banner had stronger characters than most limited banners, unless it's just because they're older. In that case maybe eula and klee should be added first

[@mistyseas]

Yeah i'm fine with the other characters but at least for me I'd rather have some other character placed in the standard banner than Xiao

[@spiderninja_1]

I remember seeing a concept of regional-based banners. Not in terms of a character being put in a certain banner based on their home region, but based on where that character’s ascension material is located. So, for example, Shenhe would be put into an Inazuma-based standard banner instead of Liyue since her ascension material is in Enkanomiya. Same with Ganyu being put in Mondstadt’s banner, or Albedo being put in Liyue’s banner. It’s a good way for players to be able to pull for characters based on areas they’ve already unlocked, especially in the case of Inazuma, where the region is locked behind a quest and AR rank.

[@meekumanu]

I think Albedo basically belongs on the Standard Banner at this point. It needs a Geo 5* to round out the elements, he appears early in the story in Dragonspine, he's about on the same power level as Mona and Jean and is from Mondstadt so he wouldn't be too hard to build for new players.

[@bluefenneris9009]

at this point albedo is more of a seasonal character appearing every december and giving you a free sword (so basically santa lol)

[@St1ckyVicky]

Honestly, I'm pretty happy because I've promised myself to try to get c1 Hu Tao, Eula and her weapon. so now I don't have to think about trying to get Tighnari. Also I never even knew that there were gacha rules so that's fun to know

[@zuzu2642]

honestly I love the 2nd standard banner you made, you put together strong characters of all different elements and weapons but also loveable characters! also I main xiao but only have him at c1 right now and it would be lot easier to c6 him if his banner wasnt limited as well as getting cons for my yae and yoimiya :)

[@veeistiredasf]

i'm sad archons won't probably get added 😭my raiden is doomed to be c1 for an eternity now, but i seriously hope characters like tartag or xiao get added cause they have good cons and it would at least make spending blue fates more exciting

[@Ryo-jb4zn]

It's extremely unlikely, but if xiao gets added then the older charcaters like him will most likely be added as well, especially ganyu and hu tao. That would indeed make the standard banner much better.

[@Mugen_Gaming]

Anyone here after 3.5 sadge

[@Simmlex]

I don't think adding already limited characters to the standard banner is a good idea. People saved and whaled for those limited characters and putting them in the standard banner would devalue them greatly and make the efforts of the people who saved for them and skipped other characters for them be in vain. The way they handle Tighnari is the correct approach. When they make new characters, they should just add some to the standard like Tighnari. Or make new character directly for the standard banner. Adding older already limited characters there is both a terrible and a great way to piss off fans enough so they start to protest. At the very least I know I'd be extremely furious of the characters I saved and skipped for would now just be common stuff that can spook me. Because then why the hell did I skip other characters for them then?

[@rororo69]

I don't think putting limited characters on the standard banner would devalue them, since Genshin isn't really a multiplayer game. There's not even any PvP, which makes comparing your account and characters to others pretty useless. If anything, it would be great for F2Ps or low spenders to not have to worry about saving primos within a time limit for these characters if they want them, and it would give them a chance to gain constellations for the ones they have, which F2Ps most likely don't.

[@Simmlex]

@@rororo69 I actually see your point and I don't exactly meant monetary value, although if you ever want to sell you account, that too, but what I mean, it'd make the efford and dedication of old players who were there and saved for those banners cheaper. It's good and all to think of newcomers but, I don't think cateing to enwcomers soly is a good idea. because old players want to feel like their sweat and deciation to the game also means something in the long run.

[@nilou1841]

​@@rororo69 then, if like that, its better off for me to not pull the limited banner and just save save save save until they change the old limited into the standard ones, no? Once players realize this pattern, i believe numerous people will feel less important to pull the limited banner just because "oh eventually the limited ones will go into the standard ones" like what a large sum of people think when Mihoyo said Tighnari will be relocated to the standard. its like you're advertising the registration fee perhaps 25$, then only by the time the program starts, you reduced it to 5$ and the one who paid earlier can't get their refunds. i am at ar56 and until now, i dont have mona and qiqi. Getting a 5 star in the standard took months and months and what, you get just a skyward pride? Yes, sure you can add more but do announce it prior like Tighnari. And your point of f2p dont have to worry about etc etc, if i think this in a long run, people wont be logging into genshin as much as they do rn, which ofc affects the developer's side as well since their monthly active players are reducing slowly. Which is why putting a time limit motivates players to log in and grind. idk these are my two cents.

[@blackbun130]

@@nilou1841 that's heavily flawed logic, that people will just save and pull when they're on standard. Growing the standard pool is important as a standard for all gacha games. At that point, since standard banners are a free for all, it becomes even LESS likely to get the characters you want without a rate up. Literally all popular gacha games in existence do this and they still thrive, because their standard pools are so large that people greatly value rate ups as well anyway. Honkai did this exact thing of adding limited characters to standard after a year or two and it didn't make any of those characters less desirable or of value when they get rate ups again. The concept of paying for early access that only affects you and no one else is not new at all. This is something that occurs in other services too, but no one complains once that service is made available later on?? This really shouldn't be as bewildering as you people make it out to be.

[@somotospero9717]

It is literally illegal for them to put limited characters on standard. Because they stated they will be LIMITED. Idk how honkai does it but I know it's not the same.

[@bethmaguire7388]

I think at some point they should stop doing reruns and put them onto a banner where you can choose the character path, cuz we’ll get so many characters eventually the reruns will just be tedious imo

[@Ymrainbow]

No way they wil add old character to standard banner, maybe create some new character but not too op into standard banner, that is what i think.

[@TheSecondDiaryKeeper]

"Electro partner, which players might not have" while showing an image of Lisa, who is really good at applying Electro with her Burst.

[@chrrstiannnn]

I think having two standard banners would not be a good idea unless they're accessible on the limited banner if you lose the 50/50. But I think adding the Epitomized Path on the Standard Banner would be the best option. Also if they were to add anyone on the standard banner I feel like it should be a newer character and not one that's had a few reruns at least not until the later versions of the game.

[@powguma]

Good speculation on the Wanderlust Invocation not being the only standard banner. But there's a potential problem that no one's going to roll on the Wanderlust Invocation 1. I can already imagine youtubers stating the obvious and bashing the first banner, like "DON'T THROW AWAY YOUR PRIMOGEMS!" as if it's a life or death situation and also bash on the characters on the banner. This may not be a huge problem, but I believe Hoyoverse's business strategy is making every single character marketable and never outdated. So I think they will buff the first standard banners more before the 2nd one is available. Because, even though RedFlaim tried to make the 2nd one not too OP, it's still a whole lot better than the first one. So I think they will buff the first one with either a really strong yet-unseen 7th character (it looks Tighnari is already a step in this direction, he may be really strong) or flat-out buff the old characters and weapons on the first one.

[@ashina2146]

Albedo seems to be a Seasonal Character as in his 2 Banners happen in December or Christmas

[@白白-c8u]

I hope that all the limited 5 stars characters should have a turn to rerun again cause like the new players may want it

[@fuuko7376]

Well, I don't think it will be fair for ones who spent money to get them for them to be added into Standard Banner. One of the reasons why some, especially low spenders, top-up to get them/their cons is because they are limited event exclusive, who knows how long till they get another re-run. Those who spent money on the recent re-runs will surely be upset? Though, if there is a possibility, I think it will need an announcement long before it's implemented. Like at least one or two years before. Even so there might still be backlash. Imo it's better to create and add new characters in

[@wuxian1]

what a great video! the narration, editing and music is good! keep going

[@lordofshibainus]

Personally, I think characters like Klee, Childe, and Albedo should go to a standard banner given they’re quite old but they’re great for starting players since they’ll be able to get their materials and boss quite easily. Plus their passives are super helpful early game given a lot of 4 stars have expedition talents.

[@Brownyan]

1:42 i remember they did a similar thing on khux where they made banners with no mercy (having gone years without doing no mercy bannners) and after huge backlash they removed the banners and replaced them with a 10 (10 pull) mercy, with it getting cheaper every time to 1900 jewels from 3000. Everyone who pulled kept their medals and got their jewels back. I was one of those players. And I got the medal too.

[@moxbby4585]

I'd be super happy if any character I liked got added to the standard pool. I don't understand why anybody would have an issue with it tbh

[@moxbby4585]

Side-note I'd also like to see a standard weapon banner just to have it

[@MultiTheGamerman]

Some people want to feel validated by their poor speeding habit.

[@digichu007]

Back in the early 2010s (2012 to 2014), complete gacha system was banned. The limited character system was created in response. Several games played limited FOMO card & put the characters into standard banner, cough "false advertisement" lawsuits. That got immediately regulated by the JP & CN governments.

[@byeguyssry]

4:04 I think this is false? I might be wrong, but iirc you have a 50-50 chance between weapons and characters. Therefore, it's a 1 in 12 chance as there is a 50% chance of getting a character and a 1 in 6 chance that if you do get a character, it is Tighnari.

[@shindig5974]

thank you so much for making this video, ive seen so much misinformation on the "legality" and other such problems adressed in the video that you cleared up quite nicely, i agree with everything you said. i also think they could add extra banners as you discribed. awsome vid with interesting topics, love these man keep em coming!!!

[@krunch3444]

I feel like people will still be mad if their 5* gets added to a permanent banner. Gacha is also about collecting for a lot of people. It's like having a really rare collectible sold to you and then the company just produces a bunch of them and suddenly everyone has it.

[@walterwhite4398]

It similar to video game collection you want to get that rare cartridges but then someone ask to dump it online and make it lose it valued

[@kasuha]

The odd one out on your alternate banner is Yae Miko. Everyone else is still Mondstadt/Liyue character. My personal opinion is, they might want to make standard banner for each area. I.e. Mondstadt banner, Liyue banner, Inazuma banner, Sumeru banner, etc. Not necessarily filled with 5-stars of each element or weapon type but rather giving you the choice depending on how far in the game did you get so far. Seriously, less 5-stars on the banner coming with higher chance to get either of them would count as an improvement.

[@yousufaltameemi6502]

Yoimiya exists there u know

[@LeBronyaJames]

Adding characters could work if MiHoYo going to make a new Geo character who would be on the Standard Banner like Tighnari. Legally, it would make sense. Location-based banners would work so that characters who aren’t popular have multiple ways to be obtained and still have their advertised exclusivity. Basically, an exclusive Standard Banner

[@stevem.9340]

They should do something like that eventually because if the point of the game is that there are over 30+ characters that are not in the normal banner, people will start to actively beg them to add them in the banner, you know how the community reacts to things

[@digichu007]

CN and JP literally made laws to prevent this to protect the consumer and people want to undo it. Lol.

[@zeenicorn6721]

idk if u know this but reruns exist and so far every character has had a rerun or reruns so that ppl can get a specific character except for yae ayato and yelan shenhe etc cuz they came out this year. after 3.0 there might be ppl who still want zhongli kokomi or ganyu so they can wait for their rerun but ofc the number of characters will increase so the better solutions is to have more reruns at the same like 4-5 banners at the same. the only thing u would have to decide is which character u want to prioritize getting forst and which characters rerun u want to wait for. this will be zhonglis 4th rerun and it obviously doesnt look like it will be his last. the characters are the reason ppl play the game and they should be able to play with the characters they want for themselves

[@sureyeah3678]

Inazuma wont be in the standard imo, mainly because new player needs to play 2 chapter of Archon quest to unlock even the first ascension upgrade. Unless there's a 4* test run that has the same region speciality items

[@snapedu9166]

How can u predict stuff so well????? I love this channel 😂😂😂😂

[@Xaonn]

they still can't do that. First your point of wanderlust being a standard banner doesn't make sense since in the description it clearly says THE standard banner, second you blatantly ignored the fact that the description still said the character is event limited, they cannot stop being event limited aka permanent.

[@Cuposo]

I would pull on that second banner cause it’s really good

[@defour7649]

Haha I disagree kindly with your opinion Mr KZbinr. If this were to be implemented before the 3rd anniversary, I still don't think a second Wanderlust would get any Inazuma characters. Overall I agree with Tartaglia, Albedo and Xiao. But there is no way Yoimiya will claim Klee's spot, and I say this as someone who owns both, enjoys both but finds Yoimiya more fun. Klee's constellations are super valuable and should be allowed to be passively earned, and also Hoyo's marketing team as you discussed isn't very fond of Ms Naganohara, also no one will pull on a 4th Klee banner, where I see many pulling on a Yoimiya banner. Also Yoimiya is way too new and even in 5 years from now, Klee is still the more attractive option. Electro... Yea I think we omit electro, there's no need for 7 characters when the first standard is only gonna have 6. Also saying this as someone who finds Yae actually fun but doesn't own her personally. Cryo is a dilemma because they're all so pullable. But I would pick Ganyu over Eula, even though I own Eula and she is my second most played character (behind Hu Tao) and I don't own Ganyu (even though I effing love her). But Eula feels so outta place on a standard banner because she doesn't represent Cryo. Ganyu to me is Cryo, and Ayaka too new, Shenhe wouldn't even make sense. But yea so my banner tldr is Albedo, Ganyu, Xiao, Klee, Tartaglia, and I forgot to say that we should just have the next dendron character that isn't the archon.

[@fizzyjam]

i would pick shenhe or ganyu yeah

[@QuackEasy]

I think Shenhe would make sense. It could lead to a new player being encouraged to pull for a Cyro dps.

[@yousufaltameemi6502]

Ye but the issue with Ganyu is that she’s too strong to be added. Her kit provides simplistic dmg that’s attainable at lower investment and that’s too strong for a standard character. and even tho childe faces this issue too it balances out with certain skill cost as well as higher necessary investment. As for Eula. I would argue that her disposition as a high skill requirement character as well as her RNG aspect balance it out until later cons, also I would believe that Eula being physical would be a unique trait that incentivises her addiction as we don’t get many of those.

[@Rapiers-and-flowers]

Ganyu's way too valuable to even be in the standard so you'd have to think of someone else

[@kviana]

Imagine losing a 50/50 to tighnari I would never be mad

[@MaganiniEdu]

Having Albedo on standart banner is not a bad idea. Or releasing a new 5 geo character for it would be nice

[@sabsain2399]

I'm only a minute into the video but I just wanted to mention how good and genuine your content is and the work you put in it pays off

[@arushiiru]

If they add not just Tighnari I hope they make the OG 5stars redeemable from Stardust at least. I want my first of copy of Jean.

[@ZanathKariashi]

yeah, IMO they should add Chongyun and Sucrose to the normal rotation (the only beginner-banner/tutorial 4*'s who aren't in the rotation), and add a third slot for 1 Standard 5* that just cycles through the list each month for 100 Star-glitter.

[@fruityfinn44]

oh boy it would be a dream come true if they added xiao to the standard banner. praying for another rerun of him soon, that man gives me so much serotonin. even though chances of being a standard character are extremely low, I can still hope, eh? tbh, it they were to add current five stars to any form of standard banner, I feel like they'd include the least popular or weakest characters, to minimalise any profit lost

[@three396]

you have to realise that the standard banner is split equally for support and dps: Support: Jean, Mona, Qiqi DPS: Diluc, Keqing, Tighnari whereas in your view of a future standard banner includes 2 supports: Yae Miko, Albedo 4 DPS: Yoimiya, Childe, Eula, Xiao and baizhu which we dont know about

[@Xloverse]

I don't think there's supposed to be a pattern, it was 3 supports 2 dps for the past 2 years

[@trollar8810]

At the Eula thing: Players have lisa Lisa is a great support for Eula due to her reducing enemy def even with no cons 10:00

[@Moon1tan]

Honestly I was expecting that we'd have one of each element and from each region in terms of 4stars and 5stars as permanent characters So I was expecting maybe like 1 new standard 5star from each region, but that didn't happen when Inazuma finally came out after a year of waiting, but! It finally happened with tighnari, I hope they add more standard 5stars because having most of them being limited can be really annoying if you miss out on one then have to wait for a rerun

[@Redheart709]

esp with limiteds in popular demand like kazuha or ganyu genuinely taking a whole year to get reruns

[@Moon1tan]

@@Redheart709 yeah I was thinking of kazuha when typing that last part, tho I already had him from his first banner, many ppl missed out on him who started playing after he came out or couldn't get him the first time and I can understand their frustration

[@symartin45]

I think the first event banners that were rerun twice or more will be add to the Standard Banner. like Venti, Klee, Tartaglia, Zhongli, Xiao, Ganyu etc. And don't forget about the weapons like Summit Shaper, Vortex Vanquisher, The Unforged, Memory of Dust.

[@sora2961]

I feel like there should be a banner based on region

[@3ratsinacage]

I’ve been playing since 25th if October 2020 and haven’t missed a single day of playing since early January 2021. I got my first Qiqi after a long ritual for her on the 1st of may 2022. She was my 40th five star. That’s why I pulled for Tighnari

[@starsam4335]

Didn’t think I’d get hit with the “300 Stones” today…

[@jennawey1691]

Imagine losing the 50/50 and then “Oh nooo I got xiaoo”

[@ilyeslaribi8011]

Well correct me if I am wrong, basically you're saying that the only 5-star characters we are able to get from the standard banner are jean Mona qiqi deluc and keqing and if I want another character I need to wait for it's special banner because it's impossible to get it from the standard banner (in other word a character is dead until it has a banner and then die again afterward when the banner end) that's it!!?????

[@mikofanboy9711]

Yes? Are you new to gacha game? XD

[@eisflamme2438]

Gatcha games play with your fear of missing out.

[@ilyeslaribi8011]

@@mikofanboy9711 no I actually play genshin impact since release I just didn't pay attention to the standard banner until late in the game

[@DEEZ_N4T]

If the character becomes significantly larger they might as well do a weekly limited banner that rotates 2 5-star characters and you get to pick which one to go for like the current weapon banner

[@seththenightgamer6206]

I hate the fact that all the 5 stars he mentioned I got like I already got ruined pity I was saving for raiden on a child that showed up in 30 pulls and in trying to build it up the best I can for when Raiden shows up

[@FloatingInZeroG]

Also, considering that there are two event banners at a time, each one can pull from a different standard banner for the 50/50

[@Brooklynzkingpin]

Forgot to add what other weapons you’d add to this banner too.

[@leojustice3367]

The only one I don't agree with (besides Eula and Yae because they are placeholders) is Childe. Childe is way too strong for a standard banner. He has the highest hydro application in the game, which makes him very good with literally any off field applier. He also doesn't do enough damage to be a main dps. He's a driver/sub dps, which is a concept many players don't really grasp (people still say Xiangling is not a main dps to this day). Not to mention he's way too complex for a standard banner character. It's not just managing cooldown, it's also quadratic scaling, elemental application, multiple ways of dealing damage, deciding if power vs energy, his teams and his combos. All these small things make him a very complex character. There's a reason TCs took way too long to understand how to fully use him. Also his constellations suck, just saying that his cooldown is manageable if you know rotations

[@ednatopg3074]

Least likely to be standard here is xiao hes one of the most popular characters in the game and has made too much money for hoyoverse to make him standard.

[@k1k156]

man, i have done it once again. i was one of the people that pulled for keqing on her banner out of fun and got her. and now, once again, i wished for tighnari and hid hard pity but got him without knowing he will be one of the characters. sad but its good that we finally got a second standard banner. the poor people that lost so many 50/50s on the same characters.

[@morethanpichusgaming]

I've said it a few times, but I believe that updating the standard banner or giving players a second standard banner would be beneficial. The roster of 5 stars could be the 1.0 to 1.6 limited banner characters, as some were originally released up to nearly 2 years ago. Considering that there are also version 2 (2.0 to 2.8) characters who've only had 1 run, additional reruns could be helpful. Your list was very insightful though, with keeping chase characters still chase (archons and powerful units). I like it.

[@ChaosFlute]

Ahhh, I appreciate your take on the fine print. Creating a new, second standard banner is a way around their wording that I hadn't considered or heard suggested before. It's also possible that the new standard banner will not have full elemental coverage in its five-star roster, like the current one. All I can say is they probably would choose to drop a different element than geo if they went that route. Also I really don't see the problem with adding formerly limited characters, morally speaking. What you were paying for was to have the Shiny New Thing. Other people having a chance to get it later takes nothing away from the time you got to enjoy having the Shiny New Thing when others couldn't. But I frown on unnecessary artificial scarcity in general anyway. I'm still constantly advocating in surveys for them to make old event weapons and so on available to new players in some way.

[@hashakahwantstorepent.4176]

What they can do is something like honkai where you get to select the 5* that you want . If I remember correctly it was on the weapon banner and you can select 4 5* out of the other standard items in the banner . Doing this might break the game as you can just select the best character available but maybe they can add a cool down of some sorts where you can't get the selected five stars untill a month passes or after getting another 5 star

[@FateTheArcher]

If any 5 stars are added to the standard banner (or a new standard banner) it will probably done similarly to Honkai Impact 3rd. New battlesuits that are currently "meta" in Honkai do not end up on the Standard banner right away (such as Platinus Equinox, HoHE, HoF)... but if they have been out for a while they are added to the pool. A good example is Herscher of Thunder-- who only got into dorm supply after 2 years and MANY re-runs. And even being in dorm supply, she still gets re-runs since she is so popular and still a really good character to play as. Another thing that Honkai does that may become a thing-- in a similar vein--- would be taking one of the launch 5 stars in the standard banner and making them a permanent 5 star for new accounts-- much like how Herrscher of The Void is a newcomer 5 star. This only works with characters that are victims of Power-Creep though-- and if that happens it may not be until a few more regions are available.... While it would be interesting to release a new 5 star character on a 2nd standard banner, I don't think it's likely- since it would be one less limited banner they can run. It makes more sense to me for them to run a 2nd banner for 5 stars that didn't perform as well on both initial run and rerun.... with one or two 5 stars that were popular but may be power-creeped a bit; or maybe the sales for the re run weren't as good as the first runs sales. That would give players a separate pool for those characters so they can try getting then without risking their pity being broken on the limited banners

[@ganyu6529]

This might be true because there is another thing to consider here: As the game progresses more and more with the unlock of new regions and many new 5 stars, it will get a lot difficult for hoyoverse to give the exclusive character banners (especially reruns) within a reasonable time, for example, it might take 1-2 years to get another ayato rerun considering he just had his banner. They will most probably focus more on giving banners for their newer characters, so adding mondstadt and liyue characters to the standard banner does make sense.

[@VCXgamingYT]

Started playing Genshin Impact two days ago, are there any Characters I should collect now until they leave?

[@Saturdayyyyyyy]

I remember hearing a while ago that after a limited 5 star has had 3 reruns they would be added to the standard banner but that was a while ago and I completely forgot where I heard it but just wanted to point this idea out lol.

[@scapist19]

I genuinely can't believe how luck I am I managed to get one of each standard banner 5* before receiving any copies whatsoever.

[@walterwhite4398]

Good for you

[@Twentizz]

Tectone watched it pog

[@Feyr4]

To balance things out, they could put the requirements for pulling in this banner is by only using stardust and starglitter instead of primos. This way, even when you have the worst luck as a whale, you still get the chance to pull slightly worth it characters, with path of epitome to choose which character or weapon you want. In addition, the 3 star pulls will be resources instead of useless weapons for fodders only

[@OfficialQueenAshfire]

If they were to make more standard banner they should definitely place a optimized path feature like the weapon weapon along with the original standard banner

[@kienphucnguyen2001]

i want xiao as my best crowd control for spiral run

[@oruko9189]

I would like Klee because I’m a Klee main and I’m f2p (I want her c6)

[@pomegranategunner3974]

As a recovered dokkan battle whale/dolphin I very much see the possibility of multiple standard banners. The main issue for character banners is the lack of characters in general (by no means a bad thing), especially with there being more 5 stars than 4 stars. An interesting thing they could try to do is themed rerun banners like a v1.0 standard banner or a mondstadt standard banner. The game put itself in this state by making a standard 5 star pool that was separate from event 5 stars. They need to start doing what they've done with 4 stars and that is add them to standard banner once the banner is gone and make a pitty system similar to weapon banner (guarantee after 2 losses) and make the player pick 1 weapon type or element. This won't take away from event and rerun banners as it would still be drastically cheaper and easier to pull specific characters there while making it possible to get any character at any point with enough luck/spending

[@-Chadnik]

My theory is that every limited character with maybe the archons being exceptions will get added to the standard banner after their 3rd or 4th re-run (after they've made enough money from the character that is). It just seems the most logical from a business perspective and we know mihoyo is all about that with the 1/3 of a single wish we get per day.

[@Invizable99]

The more characters they put in standard banner the harder to get the one you want, I got Tignari now because I want him now and he's C2 , I'm not worried about, I may never get another copy and maybe I will get c6 but by that time it won't matter, I'm already using dendro bow for puzzles and way better quality of life. Have fun on the Dendro post 😀

[@xiaoandyoimiyasimp3193]

I would be SO HYPED to have this exact banner, for obvious reasons

[@flamehunter001]

I've thought about this before and came up with a few alternatives myself for Standard Banners that contain characters based around the time they were released or for specific regions they were relevant to/got released during. I also included some 4* Stars that I personally think were considered to be 5 stars (for a few reasons) to complete the Elemental Slots (since currently, no Element is repeated in the Standard Banner). I also wanted to try adding characters with varying weapon types if possible to give more variety (seriously, we have THREE sword users currently). I'm not including any candidates for Dendro because we are just recently getting those characters. Here are my candidates IF this type of format was implemented: Mondstadt (versions 1.0 - 1.6) -Jean (Anemo-Sword) -Diluc (Pyro-Claymore) -Mona (Hydro-Catalyst) -Albedo (Geo-Sword ; very much the same thought process as RedFlaim in the video) -Eula (Cryo-Claymore ; I do think her Physical Atk style is very universal and beginners can work with it, kinda like how some used Razor as their initial DPS) -Fischl (Electro-Bow ; Fischl is the only 4* Star character with a dedicated Character Teaser and her Character Demo was unlike any of the other 4* stars released initially. I also suspect that the Amos Bow - a Mondstadt weapon - was meant to be her signature weapon as showcased on her Character Demo) Liyue (versions 1.0 - 1.6) -Keqing (Electro-Sword) -Qiqi (Cryo-Sword) -Childe (Hydro-Bow ; very much the same thought process as RedFlaim in the video) -Xiao (Anemo-Polearm ; also very much the same thought process as RedFlaim in the video and because his signature weapon is the Primordial Jade Winged-Spear, a 5* Star weapon in the Standard Banner similar to how Wolve's Gravestone is the signature weapon to Diluc) -Ningguang (Geo-Catalyst ; I'm putting Ningguang here simply because she was shown in the Travail trailer where we were shown a representative of each region, and out of the first three, only Ningguang wasn't a 5* Star, unlike Diluc and Ayaka, and now even Cyno. Also, the current Head Figures of each region so far is a 5* Star tall female that has the matching element to their region - Jean to Mondstadt, Raiden to Inazuma, and then Ningguang to Liyue) -I'm not really sure about Pyro, but the only candidate that meets my conditions is Hu Tao, but she's a popular and powerful character so this spot could be filled by a future character Inazuma (versions 2.0 - 2.8) -Yoimiya (Pyro-Bow ; very much the same thought process as RedFlaim in the video) -Kokomi (Hydro-Catalyst ; I feel Kokomi has a split reception from fans, some hating her fervently while others appreciate her. Her damage isn't extraordinary definitely, but has amazing healing and Hydro applications. Fairly balanced for new players as well) -Arataki Itto (Geo-Claymore ; he's kind of in the same postion as Eula for me in which he's playstyle is a bit niche but excels extremely well in Mono Geo teams. I also think his gamplay is "oonga boonga" meaning that it requires little complexity to understand, a factor beneficial for newer players) -Shenhe (Cryo-Polearm ; she fits here cuz she was introduced during the 2.x patches and her Ascension Material is found in Enkanomiya. Her playstyle is very niche to Cryo support, but in a way I feel that's not too detrimental since we have Qiqi currently who is specifically only for healing) -Kujou Sara (Electro-Bow ; I didn't want to include Yae Miko for a similar reason to RedFlaim but also because Yae Miko's personality was enough for me to retain her exclusivity, which will sound dumb I know. Sara, however, has one similar aspect to Ningguang in which she can be thought of as a secondary ruler to Inazuma right after Raiden Shogun. She is a commander in the Tenryou Commission, basically the military and right hand of the Raiden Shogun. She was also selected from process of elimination because Kuki Shinobu doesn't exactly have a 5* Star presence to me) -Like with Pyro in the previous group, we didn't really get a prominent Anemo character, and Kazuha technically counts since he is important to the Inazuma Story, but like RedFlaim said he has a lot of powerful attributes that it'd be better for him to keep his exclusivity status. So, for Anemo it can be filled in by a future character.

[@Ryo-jb4zn]

In that case ganyu should also be added to the standard banner considering her signature 5 star weapon is also on the standard banner Considering the other characters, hu tao would definitely be the best option to be added in Liyue too tbh

[@flamehunter001]

@@Ryo-jb4zn I have thought before of the possibility that Ganyu might have been considered at some point to have been intended for the Standard Banner precisely because of that reason! Since a lot of 5* Star characters have signature 5* Star weapons, I thought this would have also been the case with the Standard Banner. Some make a lot of sense for one reason or another: -Jean with either Aquila Favonia (thematically because she's the Acting figure for the Knights of Favonius at the moment and she admires Venessa, the Falcon of the West and founder of the KoF) OR Skyward Blade (thematically because it is a part of the Anemo Archon's set of weapons representing the region of Anemo and Jean is Anemo herself) -Diluc with Wolf's Graveston (basically an iconic duo and now it's even further established with Diluc's new 5* Star outfit) -Mona with Skyward Atlas (this weapon's 2nd Stat is ATK% and Mona buffs allies with her ATK. It's also a lot more recommended than the Lost Prayers of Sacred Winds) Sadly Keqing's signature weapon isn't a 5* Star because officially we've seen her a lot with Lion's Roar, and we haven't seen Qiqi use anything besides Prototype Rancour in her Character Demo (which doesn't synergize with her kit in any way) -Skyward Harp goes to Venti -Lost Prayer of Sacred Winds seems to correspond to Klee, but she could also use Skyward Atlas -Then of course Primordial Jade Winged-Spear goes with Xiao and Amos' Bow to Ganyu. Therefore, the remaining weapons to not have a corresponding owner would be: -Skyward Pride and Skyward Spine.