New Doctor Who Spinoff CONFIRMED - Major Villain Returns, Cast Details & More!

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@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture 5 ай бұрын
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@JoeThornhill
@JoeThornhill 5 ай бұрын
Sorry, but what's the bottom right ship (under the Falcon) on your T-Shirt?
@nathanthomas5133
@nathanthomas5133 5 ай бұрын
For those who were hoping for a Martha return here, Freema is busy doing Romeo & Juliet with Tom Holland till August & its rumoured it’ll then transfer to Broadway (as well as some other projects she has) so I would assume her schedule is tied up for quite a while…
@CyberSpider35
@CyberSpider35 5 ай бұрын
Freema Agyeman as Juliet and Tom Holland as Romeo? Sounds interesting.
@pieman930
@pieman930 5 ай бұрын
She's not Juliet think she plays her maid ​@@CyberSpider35
@Aaarrrgh89
@Aaarrrgh89 5 ай бұрын
​@@CyberSpider35 she is not Juliet, she's the nurse. Still a pretty big deal.
@BadenAW
@BadenAW 5 ай бұрын
Filming doesn't start until August, so it's possible Freema could still do it
@Enjay001
@Enjay001 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see Freema back in the Whoniverse. Martha was one of my favourite New Who companions.
@AnomalySource
@AnomalySource 5 ай бұрын
I keep saying it but I really hope they bring back Osgood. I’ve really missed her in UNIT
@rustysempiternus
@rustysempiternus 5 ай бұрын
You're not the only one.
@JustNonsens
@JustNonsens 5 ай бұрын
Nah bring back Malcolm
@sopcannon
@sopcannon 5 ай бұрын
But is it Osgood or is it her copy?
@AnomalySource
@AnomalySource 5 ай бұрын
@@sopcannon we should never know
@gay_madilynn
@gay_madilynn 5 ай бұрын
​@@sopcannonaccording to both of them, it doesn't matter! they're both osgood. (that's a bit of a boring answer and it leaves it unanswered yeah, but it's probably what they'll keep running with if they bring her back)
@harveyburton7
@harveyburton7 5 ай бұрын
It's great to see Russel Tovey back in the whoniverse. Voyage of the Damned was a personal favourite episode growing up and always loved his Character Alonso frame, with him willing to sacrifice himself to fulfil his duty a true hero 🫡. Definitely more excited for the new series.
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully he encounters a character called Alonso and we get a cheeky little "Allons-y" 👀
@harveyburton7
@harveyburton7 5 ай бұрын
@@WhoCulture I think that could play a big part whether I love the show or not
@peterdixon7734
@peterdixon7734 5 ай бұрын
The Sea Devils were thus named by the first bloke on a lighthouse to see them. Somehow they kept the name, and even the Silurians referred to them as "our Sea Devil cousins" in the Peter Davison story.
@Wilson.647.whovian
@Wilson.647.whovian 5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Adjoa Andoh who played Martha’s mum also played one of the cat nuns in NEW EARTH. It’s a family tradition alright 😂
@christophermurphy7417
@christophermurphy7417 5 ай бұрын
Yes she did
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 5 ай бұрын
Also the actor who played the dad was in Trial of a Time Lord! So definitely a Jones family tradition!
@LisaBeta-42
@LisaBeta-42 5 ай бұрын
The actress of Clara's grandmother was in this "Trial ~" story as the housewife, who liked the Doctor and tried to vote for his survival on her home-tv 😅
@MrCway89
@MrCway89 5 ай бұрын
Children of earth was absolutely incredible! I wish they would bring Torchwood back!
@davidvanhorn3340
@davidvanhorn3340 5 ай бұрын
"I always wanted to ask Jack, about that Doctor of his, the man who appears from nowhere & saves the world. Except sometimes he doesn't. All those times throughout history when there was no sign of him, I wanted to ask why. But now I know why. There must be times, when the Doctor looks at this planet, and turns away in shame"...that speech of Gwen's still make my spine shiver.
@justmike-yt
@justmike-yt 5 ай бұрын
Small note: the Sea Devils aren’t aliens. They, like the Silurians, are native to earth.
@digitig
@digitig 5 ай бұрын
Small note: "Alien" just means from another place, not necessarily another planet.
@justmike-yt
@justmike-yt 5 ай бұрын
@@digitig They pretty much inhabited the entire planet so what other place is left?
@digitig
@digitig 5 ай бұрын
@@justmike-yt If an American comes to the UK, they're an alien even if their ancestors came from here. Same deal with sea devils. Silurians are a bit more tricky, I'll grant.
@digitig
@digitig 5 ай бұрын
@@justmike-yt They might have in the past, but they're not currently British citizens, so if they come here they're classed as aliens.
@Doctor_Who_Rocks
@Doctor_Who_Rocks 2 ай бұрын
​@@digitigHuh? Earth is the same place as Earth. What the - ??‽‽??
@markemarkatfb
@markemarkatfb 5 ай бұрын
Being a bit pedantic, but is it right to say that Sea Devils are aliens? I'm old enough to have watched them on the original series and I always thought the Silurians and Sea Devils were ancient Earth-based races that for some reason ended up dormant under ground until disturbed by those pesky humans.
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 5 ай бұрын
No, they are not aliens. They and the Silurians are the original rulers of Earth before humans came along so they are not aliens!
@digitig
@digitig 5 ай бұрын
"Alien" can simply mean from another place. It doesn't have to be from space. Few if any of the cases dealt with by the London Aliens' Registration Office will have been from space. (Or is that just what they want us to believe?)
@markemarkatfb
@markemarkatfb 5 ай бұрын
@@digitig Good point, but they all had English accents (albeit a bit raspy) so I assume they hail from these shores, or just off them.
@wintervalconspiracy
@wintervalconspiracy 5 ай бұрын
I’m fairly sure Russell Tovey was a well known and respected actor before his Doctor Who appearance
@cindyashe4496
@cindyashe4496 5 ай бұрын
Yaaaaaay! More Sean! 🥳
@christophergraham30
@christophergraham30 5 ай бұрын
Children of Earth was to show what would happen if the Doctor didn't show up to save the day.
@johannahyde-parker8422
@johannahyde-parker8422 3 ай бұрын
it would have been nice and Ianto would not have died
@penbucket
@penbucket 5 ай бұрын
The War Between Land And Sea: Starring Coronel Sexy. I'm lovin' the idea of a 5 parter limited series again. Been a long time. Children of Earth was brilliant! And we'll all agree Miracle Day never happened.
@carriertone
@carriertone 5 ай бұрын
I recently rewatched Miracle Day and didn't find it to be bad. Too many episodes made it feel padded, but there was some absolutely brilliant stuff in there. It should have only been five episodes.
@HappyBob701
@HappyBob701 5 ай бұрын
@@carriertonenot really sure why people hate on it so much
@ShadowsFloating
@ShadowsFloating 5 ай бұрын
You had me at Gugu Mbatha-Raw.
@millennialmakes4870
@millennialmakes4870 4 ай бұрын
I’m really happy to get a UNIT spin-off but I’m really surprised they chose the Sea Devils. Surely they could have used the Silurian’s instead
@evanhughes4968
@evanhughes4968 5 ай бұрын
Hearing that the director of this directed 2 of the best episodes of the season definitely ups my excitement ill be honest
@Bluestar1079
@Bluestar1079 5 ай бұрын
Awesome. This is going to be on Disney. I love how they take beloved franchises and milk them for all they are worth and then beat them with a stick. The power of who. The power of you. The power of many.
@DJCalzar
@DJCalzar Ай бұрын
I loved Torchwood so a new Dr Who spinoff? can't wait.
@Saint_Dan132
@Saint_Dan132 5 ай бұрын
its yourself, great video sean, keep smiling my whovian friend
@edrumour
@edrumour 5 ай бұрын
Really excited about this!
@nathanthomas5133
@nathanthomas5133 5 ай бұрын
There’s been talk of Disney’s commitment to the show, but i cant see them pumping money into spin-offs if they didn’t have confidence in the main show. Why spend cash on a spin-off that hasn’t started filming yet & won’t air until 2025/26 if they’re thinking of dropping-out after season 2 of the main show, as has been the gossip.
@brainlock72
@brainlock72 5 ай бұрын
It's been like fifteen(!!) years since we saw either on the series, so I expect both to be playing new characters. I am surprised you didn't give Russell's AHS:NY work a shout out. That was just as heavy as Torchwood. Ooh, can this be a backdoor Torchwood reboot? Can we hope we see a certain pea-coated immortal walk in, "Hi. Don't I know you from somewhere?" ;) (Also, that would give us an excuse for him to recount meeting various Doctors offscreen! LOL)
@peterparker6584
@peterparker6584 5 ай бұрын
I don't know why they don't try to give unit its own series like they did with Torchwood. Unit had a pilot in the 1980s that never got picked up and I think would really with everything we have now budget and effects wise make for a good Standalone series when you think about it. At least we're getting something small like this involving unit.
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps this'll lead into a fully fledged UNIT spin off, I do hope so!
@brewster_4
@brewster_4 5 ай бұрын
Isn't this sort of a UNIT spin off
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 5 ай бұрын
@@brewster_4 sort of, yeah!
@peterparker6584
@peterparker6584 5 ай бұрын
@@brewster_4 In a way yes but I wish they just do it properly like they try to do in the '80s a canine was originally a pilot in the 1980s with Sarah Jane and they managed to make it work with the new Doctor Who and the original k9 calling it The Sarah Jane Adventures. Unfortunately canine was only actually in a few episodes of that series. I was never a fan of the new canine series because they changed the dog so much plus they erased his memory so he didn't know who he was and had no memories of the doctor. I still find it a little insulting that technically the doctor has multiple of canine in storage in the TARDIS and basically treats them like old appliances. If you remember the episode where he was constantly talking to the modified robot head that he called handles you'd think that would have been an instance where he would have dug out one of the canine robots to keep him company. Where they did Torchwood and it worked for quite a while I thought by now they would have properly done unit. I've always kind of wondered why unit and Torchwood never crossed paths
@DouglasMarcksWookie
@DouglasMarcksWookie Ай бұрын
I love the fact that they're bringing the sea devils back
@igorschmidlapp6987
@igorschmidlapp6987 5 ай бұрын
"The War Between the Land and the Sea"? As long as JRR Martin isn't writing it, then, it might get done... ;-P
@brainlock72
@brainlock72 5 ай бұрын
Do you mean George RR Martin? Or JRR Tolkien? I'm betting we see the former's latest work (ASOIAF 6+7) after he joins the latter.
@SorcererSanguine
@SorcererSanguine 4 ай бұрын
How am I just now hearing about this a month later!
@TheLukecottle
@TheLukecottle 5 ай бұрын
I'm just unsure for the recast 😅 I know it happens all the time but its usually background characters with heavy make up on. Eg: Adjoa being martha's mam and a cat nun. Karen gillan being a pompeii sisterhood member and amelia pond). It was unnoticable due to the make up and how insignificant their characters were. Capaldi is the only example i can think of in new who where they gave brought back an major character to play another role. But it was explained really well with him. Martha is another but again he character is rhe s2 finale wasnt a major one. And it was explained pretty neatly. How are they gonna explain this away? Tish also ask a twin cousin? And so does Alonso? Having the people who played Tish and Alonso who are really prominant reoccuring characters in their respective episodes. Just makes me feel uneasy... Imagine bringing back Camille Coduri but she's instead a new scientific advisor? It just wouldnt feel right. But i have faith, trust and dreamlord dust that they'll do a good job 💛
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 5 ай бұрын
THANKS!!! But I think you meant #K9andCompany .
@MorristheMinor
@MorristheMinor 5 ай бұрын
Actually, I really like the Sarah Jane Adventures, if only for getting Jo Grant and Sarah Jane Smith to appear in the same story,
@TheDrugOfTheNation
@TheDrugOfTheNation 5 ай бұрын
I heard Gugu Mbatha-Raw and Naoko Mori would be in this series, but that was just Tish and Tosh.
@Faction.Paradox
@Faction.Paradox 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if featuring Silurians in the Christmas special is sneaky way to reintroduce them before a suprise appearance in the spinoff. It would make sense for them to team up (again) with the Sea Devils or maybe a group of Silurians side with humans instead.
@tracesizemore6736
@tracesizemore6736 5 ай бұрын
My dream of having a Jenny, daughter of the doctor spin off will never come to fruition 😢
@mrb3991
@mrb3991 5 ай бұрын
HI I wish they could re imagine a new version of Torchwood may be a Prequel ?👍
@alambert2211
@alambert2211 5 ай бұрын
Great job guys!
@Sk8rToon
@Sk8rToon 5 ай бұрын
I forget, did they say if it was going to be on Disney+ as well as BBC?
@leotibennett6671
@leotibennett6671 5 ай бұрын
What about that Madame somebody that was a lizard, her human girlfriend, and the Sontaran? There were so many possibilities there.
@mailjimmygalaxy
@mailjimmygalaxy 5 ай бұрын
Sean my favourite stand in everything!!!
@jamie1449
@jamie1449 5 ай бұрын
Not really sure why they’ve based this around the Sea Devils. It was the worst received episode of the Chibnall era - it’s like they don’t want it to be successful.
@tracyroweauthor
@tracyroweauthor 5 ай бұрын
Children of Earth was some of the best television I've ever watched. If you haven't seen it, go out now and watch it.
@OuroBoros_Games
@OuroBoros_Games 5 ай бұрын
I am okay with it, i like this more than re-use main characters all the time, but i don't know anything how it will be, Tovey is alien gay, an Gugu still being family of her sister (Martha who married Mickey and have action adventures around the world), so she should not be unaware of nothing. What they can come up with? It feels very odd.
@foolonthehill8410
@foolonthehill8410 5 ай бұрын
ham and cheese toasty and a pumpkin latte
@Celtic_Nutter
@Celtic_Nutter 5 ай бұрын
NGL what I wanted was a UNIT spin-off with Yaz and the old companions and Osgood
@aspen5923
@aspen5923 5 ай бұрын
I feel like martha's sister and alonzo are much more iconic characters than caecilius or random torchwood employee, really weird to have them cast imo
@heathercummins1644
@heathercummins1644 5 ай бұрын
I'm in 💯%
@gregnulik1975
@gregnulik1975 Ай бұрын
'The War Between' could be a better title. Shorter , easier to say , etc.
@homogenized
@homogenized 5 ай бұрын
I guess now they need to go for the recast hat trick and recast Leo Jones' actor in something lol
@Fred247
@Fred247 5 ай бұрын
"You touched the sea Morty!"
@thewiseturtle
@thewiseturtle 5 ай бұрын
I honestly don't understand people who like Children of Earth. It was torture. Torchwood was supposed to be sexy and fun, not horrifically depressing and cruel. I hate that series so much. Probably even more than the ridiculous US Torchwood that came after.
@TheLukecottle
@TheLukecottle 5 ай бұрын
I love Ellie to bits. But as a queer guy I do love seeing Sean on my screen 💛🥰
@davidphillips9190
@davidphillips9190 5 ай бұрын
Where can I find that t-shirt?
@THOMAS_VANN
@THOMAS_VANN 5 ай бұрын
imagine if they could bring back Freema Agyeman
@89Helten
@89Helten 5 ай бұрын
I am just wondering, why is it ok to call him colonel sexy?
@jamestebby
@jamestebby 5 ай бұрын
It's not
@digitig
@digitig 5 ай бұрын
@@jamestebby Is he not a colonel, then?
@jamestebby
@jamestebby 5 ай бұрын
@@digitig never said he wasn't
@sistakia33
@sistakia33 5 ай бұрын
I just wish they would pick up the Sarah Jane show with the kids being parents and taking up the “let’s help aliens” concept! Definitely a missed opportunity to keep ignoring them…🤔 And I loved most of the 3rd classic Doctor Who stories but the Sea Devils story is the one I tried to skip! I hated them and the other subterranean villain. ☹️
@simonchandler9601
@simonchandler9601 5 ай бұрын
Nicholas Courtney
@Sleepysod
@Sleepysod 5 ай бұрын
What’s the spaceship below the falcon? I recognise all the rest but couldn’t get this one? Cardassian?
@TimboBaggins187
@TimboBaggins187 5 ай бұрын
I'm legitimately not interested in the Sea Devils.
@jennifernguyen72
@jennifernguyen72 5 ай бұрын
Honestly... 1st. Russel Tovey in Anything! 2nd.. Silurians would have had me. Just like Russel. Sea Devils...... not so much.
@peterkn2
@peterkn2 5 ай бұрын
I think an anthology spinoff might work. Each season visiting a different alien or planet
@coolpie
@coolpie 5 ай бұрын
2:14 is my man not wearing trousers?
@coolpie
@coolpie 5 ай бұрын
The more I watch, the more I realise he's wearing a skin tight shirt and nothing else???
@TheLukecottle
@TheLukecottle 5 ай бұрын
Thirst trapping! It worked on me 🥰
@Philosophoholic163
@Philosophoholic163 5 ай бұрын
When I keep things wibbly wobbly, they fall over...
@timrob12
@timrob12 5 ай бұрын
I'm just realizing that it isn't confirmed that Russell Tovey and Gugu Mbata Raw are playing human characters and could easily be put under prostethics and playing sea devils or Silurians.
@stacirobinson6162
@stacirobinson6162 5 ай бұрын
Do you know if this will be put on Disney plus?
@ItsArcticVision
@ItsArcticVision 5 ай бұрын
Yes it will. Disney confirmed it on their doctor who Instagram account.
@nathanthomas5133
@nathanthomas5133 5 ай бұрын
Disney are putting in money like they do with the main show so yes
@husenomar3912
@husenomar3912 4 ай бұрын
Why not Lady Christina, spin off
@apraxiaandme
@apraxiaandme 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember The Class?
@doorofnight87
@doorofnight87 5 ай бұрын
It definitely makes more sense to have this setup, and I am looking forward to it!
@chrisd1982
@chrisd1982 5 ай бұрын
This could be cool, legend of the sea devils was my favourite Whittaker episode and gave her a chance to show the doctor she had in her talent
@theepicfanatic
@theepicfanatic 5 ай бұрын
Did you mess up your joke? You made a joke about "K9 and Friends" … didn’t you mean "K9 and company"? 😊
@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq
@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq 5 ай бұрын
He was thinking A Girl's Best Friend, the pilot episode's working title.
@sabrinatirabassi3529
@sabrinatirabassi3529 5 ай бұрын
British relatives look weirdly similar to each others...
@saraayers6870
@saraayers6870 5 ай бұрын
I am getting little mermaid 2 vibes from this tittle.
@PeterBoykinForAmerica
@PeterBoykinForAmerica 5 ай бұрын
Thing is they aren't alien they also come from earth
@frankpedigo6261
@frankpedigo6261 5 ай бұрын
If the Sae Devils are from Earth then how can they be Aliens ?
@whoviandax8053
@whoviandax8053 5 ай бұрын
I was hoping this rumor was false. I’ve never found the sea devils to be interesting. Hopefully Russell Tovey and Gugu Mbatha-Raw make it interesting.
@blastfromthepast-o1d
@blastfromthepast-o1d 5 ай бұрын
They won't. But they'll help to tick a few boxes and that's all that matters now.
@Enjay001
@Enjay001 5 ай бұрын
The opposite for me. Along with the Daleks, Cybermen and the Ice Warriors, the Sea Devils are one of the enemies who left a lasting impression on me from the classic era. I have been hoping that they would make a return since the 2005 reboot. The Legend of the Sea devils didn't quite tick the necessary boxes for me, but I'm hopeful for this. And more Kate Lethbridge-Stewart! Jemma Redgrave absolutely owns that role.
@DrWhoFanJ
@DrWhoFanJ 5 ай бұрын
@@blastfromthepast-o1dNot in reality is anything you’ve said here truthful.
@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq
@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq 5 ай бұрын
At DoctorWhoFanJ - an Asian actor, a black actress and a gay actor. It's BBC diversity box ticking.
@DrWhoFanJ
@DrWhoFanJ 5 ай бұрын
@@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq Not at all. Not how reality operates. (And none of them are Asian.)
@ltrujillo1971
@ltrujillo1971 5 ай бұрын
I was in Hall H when it was announced, and as soon as they showed Ibrahim, my immediate thought was "Colonel Sexy!"
@Lolcat123
@Lolcat123 5 ай бұрын
Will it be an R rated series or for children ?
@josephduncan9462
@josephduncan9462 5 ай бұрын
It has to be a UNIT show with a six episode story. I can't see any of them thinking a spinoff with the Sea Devils with the most minor of past side characters could generate much excitement.
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 5 ай бұрын
It is a five episode spin off that will feature UNIT in a major role.
@foxesofautumn
@foxesofautumn 5 ай бұрын
I'm not that fussed about the Sea Devils but I'll watch for that cast. Could be fun. (Though I hope it's less dark than Children of Earth because oh boy)
@Mauchito
@Mauchito 5 ай бұрын
Great news! But can we stream it on Disney+ outside the UK?
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture 5 ай бұрын
Yes you can!
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 5 ай бұрын
Yes, you can! It has been confirmed it'll be coming to Disney Plus internationally!
@Aledam6
@Aledam6 5 ай бұрын
I cant figure out what ship is the first one on the left in the bottom line. I recognize the other ones, but not that one.
@locutusuk68
@locutusuk68 5 ай бұрын
Planet Express Futurama
@DAveShillito
@DAveShillito 5 ай бұрын
Who-Tuber ❤it! 😆
@chrisd1982
@chrisd1982 5 ай бұрын
Renslayer variant?
@AlexOnABoat
@AlexOnABoat 5 ай бұрын
So, if Kate and Colonel Sexy are in it, it's actually a UNIT spin off with the Sea Devils as the baddies. Or am I barking up the wrong tree with a Tardis in it?
@friendlyotaku9525
@friendlyotaku9525 5 ай бұрын
I think you're pretty close to the truth, yeah! Though I'd hold off on calling the Sea Devils the baddies but they're certainly going to be going up against UNIT!
@MydieLy
@MydieLy 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure you understand the mavity of the situation!
@axlefoley6330
@axlefoley6330 5 ай бұрын
I think those “sky is falling Who is cancelled!” Muppets now have egg on their faces. I really do hope they do reference Alonso and Tish, but it’d be fine if not. MORE WHONIVERSE INC!
@charg1nmalaz0r51
@charg1nmalaz0r51 5 ай бұрын
I honestly dont understand why theres a spin off in the works when the main show isnt doing its job with its audience. Its like Russel came back expecting to have the same success of his original run preplanning 2 seasons and a spinoff without thinking about the potential of it being doa.
@Abitimus
@Abitimus 5 ай бұрын
It’s a pity that Martha was a red herring…
@DonnaLang42rockglobally
@DonnaLang42rockglobally 5 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to seeing this. Will it be shown on Disney+ in the US?
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture 5 ай бұрын
Yes, it will be on both Disney+ and iPlayer!
@geoffroi-le-Hook
@geoffroi-le-Hook 5 ай бұрын
Chan Martha's mother also appeared as another character first tho.
@kunai30
@kunai30 5 ай бұрын
Colonel sexy.....is he handsome or is he just tall?
@BeholdTheTruth79
@BeholdTheTruth79 5 ай бұрын
Who flopped on Disney plus and it flopped here in the UK, Gatwick is despised as the Doctor, so why on earth are the BBC wasting public funds on something the public does not want? Never mind a spin off.
@elliotttalksf1825
@elliotttalksf1825 5 ай бұрын
Children of earth is one of the best stories in the dr who world ever let alone torchwood.
@bryonpowers
@bryonpowers 5 ай бұрын
Disney kills good shows and movies by creating endless spinoffs and sequels just for the money and not the quality.
@davidcheater4239
@davidcheater4239 5 ай бұрын
I love the cast. I thought "73 Yards" and "Dot and Bubble" were brilliant horror based episodes of the new season. But I'm anxious about the Sea Devils. And I thought 'Children of Earth" was both bleak and ugly. (Dot and Bubble in contrast was bleak and visually attractive.)
@coolpie
@coolpie 5 ай бұрын
8 says
@thedarcbird
@thedarcbird 5 ай бұрын
As the Tay-Tay song goes: "Haterz gonna hate hate hate" we've just got to shake it off. I've noticed that they are complaining that Doctor Who is "now" woke. Thing is, it's *ALWAYS* been like that. Ever since Classic Who. They've only just now noticed????
@chrisd1982
@chrisd1982 5 ай бұрын
I don't think that they just now noticed I think it's more that it's now popular to moan like a little bitch into a void of confirmation bias
@pettytyrant2720
@pettytyrant2720 5 ай бұрын
It used to be well written though, the 'woke' as you put it, by which I assume you mean social and/or political message was 99% of the time 'under the hood' of the main surface story about aliens and the Doctor battling them. It did not therefore feel like a preachy 45 minute lecture on what awful people the audience are. Modern Who has zero subtlety about it, zero room for interpretation (classic Who often presented right and left wing opinions not just one of them for example and more often it did not itself come down on one side or another, but left it to the viewer to decide if it was the right course of action or not) modern Who it is like being slowly beaten into servitude with the 'message mallet.' Personally I prefer my Who to tell a good story, with good characters and good development first, then have a broad moral or point to make behind it, not the other way round where the moral of the week dictates the story and the characters. Modern Who is backwards, the 'message' is considered of more importance than entertaining its audience or providing compelling narratives. The irony of course being their 'message' would be better received and offend less people if it wasn't so blatant and domineering over all else in the show and if there actually were good engaging narratives and characters to convey it with. But no, we just get this brutal 'think this or you're wrong and bad' nasty mind set running our Who now in RTD. Quite possibly the most overrated writer in UK television. He cannot write an ending to save himself. And his previous saving grace, his ability to create instantly recognisable and well rounded characters is almost completely absent now, leaving very little else as his plotting is atrocious, especially in sci-fi (presumably why he has now decided its no longer a scifi show but a fantasy show, it's easier to write as you can do anything and not have to explain or justify it- see the entire last pointless series which ended in nothing at all, not adding up or making a lick of sense and leaving behind only the bitter aftertaste of an unfulfilled audience).
@lepterfirefall
@lepterfirefall 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately that means 6 million are haters as that the number who have switched off since jodies era started. That is probably an underestimate too as alot of those will be repeat veiws. Maybe they have legitimate reasons for switching off? You create for your audience. If the audience is switching off...maybe not blame the audience and examine what your making.
@solvseus
@solvseus 5 ай бұрын
Tell Ellie to watch Barbie
@jessenerdsout3886
@jessenerdsout3886 4 ай бұрын
We're NOT getting Alonso and Tish? 🥺 BOOO!
@conwarlock3537
@conwarlock3537 5 ай бұрын
Quite a lovely shirt you have there.
@IanSmith2814
@IanSmith2814 5 ай бұрын
This announcement landed with a wet fart imo..There’s been zero buzz or any conversation about it. I think Chibnal and now RTD2 has done real damage to this show.
@doro626
@doro626 5 ай бұрын
The Unit actors are strong, so a show with them can be a great thing.
@mackenzieh6612
@mackenzieh6612 5 ай бұрын
"the children of earth is the best" wrong! ianto died and i never looked at that show again
@total2blue
@total2blue 5 ай бұрын
I wasn't on board until Sean said Colonel Sexy. Ok, now I'm interested. :)
@willadeefriesland5107
@willadeefriesland5107 5 ай бұрын
Sean you are the BEST at Trek AND Who cultures, don’t ever doubt that...
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