22 Mag Bullet Drop - Demonstrated and Explained

[@OscarGomez-oo7im]

As a lover of the .22 WMR, I have a couple of suggestions for the readers of this post. The first one is that as with every rimfire ammo you have to find the round that your rifle handles properly. This means that tests have proved that the rifles including rifles being from the same manufacturers and models prefer different brands, weights and designs of bullets. My actual .22 WMR rifle is a Savage Mod. 93 bought years ago to replace an ancient Marlin. This Marlin was good enough to hunt in distances up to 90 - 100 yards making heads shots on small game and turkeys with CCI maximax 40 gr. HP... When I bring in the Savage I try to use the same ammo but at 100 yards the groups average 4.5 inches... After testing around 8 or 9 different brands of ammo, was clear that the only one I can use expecting groups below 1 inch was the 40 gr. Winchester Super X JHP. After some adjusting to the scope, I obtain a rifle ready to shoot 1.5 groups at 120 yards. This is not free advertising for Winchester... Maybe in your rifle it won't perform this way... Another point, due to the loss of speed in the bullet and its low weight, on too windy days do not spect miracles... Anything over 120 yards will be treated with a Savage 110 Classic in .243. Let us be real, .22 WMR is a wonderful cartridge, economic, the rifle is very light... But " a man has to know its limitations"... Remember this quote ???

[@AntonyLD]

Great post Oscar. All my testing $$$ if I bench rest with my Weirauch best group is 1" at 150m with Horny 30gn . LOVE my wmr

[@kubanskiloewe]

uncle had a Anschütz 1516 and he shoot Winchester Super-X 40gr. (perhaps the old original ones ?)

[@kirkwaggoner7328]

Cool Hand Luke... "A man has got to know his limitations"...

[@wildcatindustries8030]

I love my .22WMR so much I’ve made it my primary shooter at the range. I also fell in love with the Savage 93 I just put a .17HMR on layaway for Christmas. These little rimfire magnums stole my heart for target shooting and pest control

[@oncall21]

That first three shot group @ 100 yards with the Norma showed excellent accuracy. Shows you don't have to spend crazy money to have an accurate 22 Magnum. I have my CZ sighted in to be dead on at 100 yards as that's as far as I will use it on rabbits and foxes. At 200 yards I'll choose the .223. Great video again and thanks for sharing Adam!

[@deplorableredneck4.02]

Who doesn't love some 22lr and 22 mag..can't go wrong with either

[@mrhamsam243]

I love being being able to see the round in the playback footage at 200 yards

[@hoppinjohn6993]

I carry a 22 mag on my 4 wheeler for all my chores on the farm. The handiest round ever made.

[@Khmarth]

It is a certified game getter 👍🇺🇸❤️🥇

[@hokehinson5987]

Bought a model 93 heavy barrel this past Xmas in WMR. Though this round has been around since 1959 had never had experience. It's really enjoyable to shoot very accurate yet wish it was a little cheaper for ammo.

[@edwardcrawley5985]

I fell in love with a Marlin bolt action .22 mag while stationed in N.C. back in the early 80's and not long after then I bought a couple Ruger 77/22s in. 22 mag which are awesome shooters. 9:49

[@58landman]

When used for what it's intended..... at and under 150 yards, it's a fine cartridge.

[@pbeardy]

I just landed on this older video of yours because we got the boy a Savage 93 for Christmas and I wanted to see what all you were doing with yours. Great video and now I am more aware of the limitations of the 93.22 magnum. Thanks for the "new" content!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@jimkemp566]

Thanks, that was a eye opener, I quit using any cartridges in the 22's since I bought my first CCI in the mid to late sixties. I have found that they seem to work, and don't really care whiter I am shooting them out of semi auto pistols or lever or bolt action rifles. I just trust CCI!!! Thanks again!!! Tie

[@UrbanADV-fc3nz]

I did a similar test about 23 years ago. I put my Barska 32x scope on my Savage 22mag. I can't remember the ammo but I shot a full 50 round box at a 200 yard target, without any scope adjustments. My final group looked like a zipper. All shots were less than an inch from the vertical line left and right, however, they ranged from about 1 foot above or below the horizontal zero. This proved to me that the gun was accurate but at risk of the powder charge of the ammo.

[@tt600pch]

Still have a Savage 4M in 22 magnum. Killed deer, coyotes, squirrels and grouse with it. Bought it in 1978 for 40 bucks.

[@williespoonemore3392]

You shot deer with it ? What state you live in bro. You'd lose your licence and gun for good here in SD if you shot deer with .22 mag

[@Theonenonlyavery]

@@williespoonemore3392 he lives in the don't ask, don't tell state :)

[@williamhannon5067]

17hmr does a great on deer too

[@Logan_urbex]

@@williespoonemore3392 nc u can use whatever

[@rileydavis7269]

​@Willie Spoonemore he said in 1978 back then my uncle was shooting deer with .22lr

[@joehelvey5794]

I love this cartridge! Awesome to see more offerings in .22wmr -on a side note thanks for directing me to Norma’s site. It’s been a window I haven’t closed since lol

[@chrishill1286]

I got the Kel Tek CMR 30 carbine a couple years ago and holy crap this thing is accurate. Trust the old man, try these Fiocchi 40 JSP rounds at 1910 fps. Now I did put the fake suppressor (barrel shroud) on the carbine and bought several manufacturers ammunitions to start out with. The Fiocchi was one hole at 25 yds, one hole at 50 yards, and moa at 100 yards! All day long. Now I put the Arken Zulus on there and This is my favorite toy in the safe period!

[@timallen6035]

I am another person that is really enjoying this video series. Always good information to know. Gives people a definite starting point with the same caliber and similar setups.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🙏🙏🙏

[@justinweaver8787]

Interesting the drop an grouping and also the sound barrier at 100to200yd wow all 3 fooled me buddy. Thank u.

[@91CavGT5]

I was shooting out to 200 yards with a .22 Long Rifle Ruger Charger with using CCI Mini Mags and was having to aim about 3’ above a steel siloughette to get a ring.

[@randyadams03]

Thanks Adam, 22 mag in a Savage good. Only. 22 mag I have is my Pmr-30. Also works and fun. Thanks crazy that you can see bullet hit at 200yrds

[@NC-xk1eg]

I don't understand the difference in drop between the Norma & the CCI but initially your scope was off, you were hitting right, so everything off to the right makes sense. In .22 LR I always shoot 40 grains. In .22 WMR I always shoot 30 grains. In .17 HMR I always shoot 20 grains.. but that's just me. Keep up the great work!

[@frankensteincreations4740]

You go past 100 yards you need a 17 hmr. What I like about the 22 mag is it’s cheap, we’ll use to be cheap. And most people don’t realize, it has very close energy to a 9x19. I have a 22 mag in a bulpup. Makes for a compact close quarters little hammer.

[@leovasquez5501]

.22 mag bullpup? Sounds interesting!

[@hoosierplowboy5299]

Good comparison, whotee. I had a .22 Mag back in the day, mostly for groundhogs. My best shot was rolling a running gh at about 50 yards. Sold it ( Mossberg) to a friend about 30 years ago who had to have it...

[@Harry-O]

My marlin XT-22 mag loves the CCI and so do I. Winchester boolots not so much. Interesting how the bullet takes a dive at 200+ yards. Another awesome video. Thanks Got a chuckle at the background noise at your home. Lol.

[@russellkeeling4387]

I had a winchester .22 mag case blow out the side of the rim and screw up my semi auto remington. I was able to fix the rifle and I don't use those winchester rounds any longer. They were some kind of light weight bullet that was supposed to be a super round. They were special all right, it caused small pieces of the bolt to fly all over the place.

[@spritual_enlightenment]

The video thumbnail showing .22WMR looks impressive. Good job.

[@jamesschneider2091]

I just picked up a Savage Model 93 FV (same rifle - heavy varmint bbl.). Straight out of the box after mounting a 2-7X 1" tube . . . I'm consistently grouping 1/2-3/4" 5 shot groups at 100 yds off solid two point bench rest with CCI 40-gr. MAXI JHP & REM 40-gr. PSP. My rimfire answer for varmints and turkeys out to 150 yds. w/rest and low cost with mild barrel wear for fun at the range. I could've bought the same rifle in .17 HMR but wasn't tempted . I look forward to trying a variety of ammo when supply catching up with demand - hopefully sooner than later. Video sheds useful light on the .22 MAG and a lot of rifle for the $.

[@caseyhowell2220]

I've bought the same rifle, and absolutely love this sexy thing and even put a bipod on it

[@ronnieb7408]

I shoot the 22lr at distances up to around 250 yds pretty regularly for fun. Was interested in getting a 22mag just haven't done so with the ammo scarcity we had lately. The long rifle drops around 40 inches at 200 and if I do my part will group inside of a pie plate with Winchester aammo(not match stuff) The mag has significant more power at that distances but not enough aerodynamics to perform like the .17s .Good shooting on your part there, about as good as the rimfires are capable unless match rifle and ammo.thanks

[@CraigDaniel1965]

I want to say, I appreciate this series of videos, WTW

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@MrToulonglor]

Thats a nice rifle. I wanted to say i got one also, marlin 983ss got it from Kmart back in the days $100 or so been so long. I did a custom titanium bolt knob using anarchy outdoors. Took a grinder and grind the knob off and threaded to standard 5/16x24 big improvement over the stock knob.

[@jlbksinger]

I love .22 Mag. I have Kel-Tec's matched set, & a Marlin 925.

[@timruhlman6498]

I had a Marlyn 783 bolt action that I cleaned and polished the barreel put an aftermarket trigger and free floated the barrel. At 60 yds I was getting .183 groups using the hornady ammo. I never tried it at long distance on the farm and only 60 yds and less and was the most perfect farm gun. Super accurate and could shoot inside a building without ricochet and putting holes in the building. Killed everything I shot instantly. I miss that gun even more than my cz527 varmint in .223.

[@carlosdominguez3053]

In my country it is hard to get a rifle license...official would have you up and down...with no results. Blessing and keep the videos coming.

[@JAB671]

To my understanding the WMR Dynapoint with its copper washed bullet (compared to the jacketed bullets of the other two) is designed to closely mimic the old .22 WRF load which is not as 'hot' as normal WMR so it won't tear small game up as much as regular WMR might.

[@jeffkeith637]

Gosh I loved plinking with my .22mag. Mossberg 640KD Chuckster. Terrible name great rifle.

[@WR_CTorch]

That was cool watching that bullet flying in from the right side, right before it hit the target. 👍🏼

[@jrevan]

I have a REM. 597 I’ve noticed big difference in different manufacturers also. Use Hornady v max 30g. No drop at 200yds.

[@demetriuscooksey7147]

Well, this explains a lot. My 22 mag is zeroed at 100. Shot a yote a couple weeks ago at about 200 yards. Held at the top of the shoulder and got it in the middle of the front leg. Shot again when he was at about 250 and missed all together.

[@curtcook4691]

i have never seen a video with ZERO dislikes before. Good on you brother.

[@ryanoros9562]

do a chronograph check on the Norma and CCI curious to see the speed variation of both.

[@tattoo62]

Ive got that same rifle. Its a great gun ! I bought mine used from a dipship gun shop owner that screwed me over on it. It wouldnt feed shells hardly plus it would misfire 6 outta 10 times. I was pissed so i sent to savage . Cost me just shipping 56 bucks and i got it back they put a new bolt in it and gave me a new 10 rd clip and polished gun up nice for free !! I love them guys for standing by there guns which in yhis case they didnt have too. I have alot of respect for that company

[@outdoorsman7437]

The drop could be wrong on the cci because you were sighted with the Norma at 100 and not the cci

[@michaellane1661]

Awesome video WTW! Been waiting on this one brother!🤘🏽

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Always appreciate you watching

[@oldiron4135]

Only issue i can see with this is at 100 yrds, you should have zeroed the different cartridges for a more accurate 200 yrd test. Your 1st 100 yrd group was already down and to the right. Should have zeroed it then shot to 200 yrds. So on and so forth with the rest. Keep in mind also, 1st shot was a cold barrel which as the barrel warms up your shot placement changes.

[@galend185]

It's interesting that the Winchester's didn't hit paper. I might have to try that at the house to see how far they really drop. Good vid...

[@cyriaquecharles]

you give a lot of practical info

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Charles

[@linklesstennessee2078]

That’s a head buster on a slick all daylong at a hundred yards and that Norma click it up and do it at 200

[@johnmettam1573]

Great video, I learnt a lot, and now what to expect from my 22WMR’s

[@hiltonmcconnell2563]

Same rifle just did a quick sight in at 25 yards 3/8" groups. got dark so test at 50 yards next time out, was using federal .22wmr 50 grain. bulk pack Lots of wind hear so wanted the heaver bullets. 6 power scope .

[@REAPER-1xxx]

I didn’t do conclusive testing like you but I was shooting an 10” plate at 200m with Browning .22 WMR 40gr HP’s the other day. I was zeroed at 100m. To put 10 in a row on the plate at 200m I only raised 1 hash mark at full zoom. So maybe 4” of drop🤷‍♂️.

[@dannyneal6194]

Interesting results! Would be interesting to see where those CCI would have hit at 100 yards. Enjoyed the video!

[@stillseeking9454]

Yes, the cci may have been higher on the target ( shot without adjusting the scope) So the published drop may be correct. Hard to know without shooting both at 100 yards. Hard to shoot much these days. .22 mag has gotten so expensive.

[@brainmeier3433]

230 feet of drop at a 1000 yards! I think we just discovered the next 6.5

[@chrishill1286]

LOL

[@bmoorear]

Love your videos man. I have that same .22 mag, got a little 2-7 Vortex crossfire on it. Great little rigs, mine really like the CCI TNT Green 30grn JHP. Works out great since we gotta be lead free hunting here in CA, plugs jack rabbits well.

[@israelnava6882]

Cool to see how the bullet slows down at 200 yards 🔥🔥

[@MrJtin69]

Was watching your 300 wsm is awesome im thinking you get the 325 wsm a truly under rated 8mm magnum

[@slickdazzler7330]

Good Info on the 22 mag

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Slick

[@cichlidman09]

Looks better without light in intro. Lighting looks much more natural. Keep it!

[@lawrencecardente533]

I would like to see you shoot some Federal 50 grain loads in 22 mag..

[@pawcrawlowens8730]

My CZ does really good, I have old marlins that do good, but they are grandsons rifles, The CZ is my favorite all year gun, it's nasty with cci game points

[@aussiesteveakastevecallagh2280]

Hey Adam Great video Mate thanks, That’s one hell of a difference between the Norma and the CCI , I would never have guessed that result , must have been the range Boggy man playing around with y’all , he does stuff like to me a lot , Lol , Steve .

[@NorthRunner64]

Great series what do we know, what do we think we know, what do we realty know. Well the 100 yard test did show you were "right" at 100. No prairy dogs will be damaged with this rifle.

[@jefferywhitson2340]

Wonder what the 5.7 in pistol and rifle difference would be

[@nathanlambshead4778]

That would be interesting. The 5.7 pistol's average muzzle velocity is about 400 fps less than the 22 wmr out of a rifle. But I imagine it has a better coefficient to buck wind and gravity a bit better. .

[@davidwclair2358]

Who cares, this is 22 mag demo.

[@MrMattydavee]

@nathan- gravity is still a theory. Never proven

[@garypollard9770]

I would have to say that next to my .22 lr my .22 mag is my favorite rifle. I have 3 of them. All of them are very, very accurate however I have never tested them like this. I think that I like my Henry the best tho.

[@johnperrotto64]

Slick video editing WTW!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching John

[@quikie1984]

Your kid had me running for the back door thinking our cat had brought in a kill paused an ran! 😅 Otherwise - interesting numbers ! Nice work as always

[@rymondred9413]

I GOT AN AK47 MADE IN 1956 FULL AUTO AND WAITTING TO BE USE IN A REAL LIFE COMBAT JUST IN NICARAGUA !!!!

[@HOOSIERDADDY385]

Thanks for the video. I would like to see the Norma drop chart.

[@chrislang5659]

I'm trying "Long range" with my Daisy pump pellet gun. I've successfully reached 100 yards. 30" drop using a 7.9 gr. pellet getting a 7" group on a 14" target. Plan is to walk it back until I run out of scope then convince the wife I need something better or cannot viably reach the target any longer. Wish me luck!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good shootin

[@chrislang5659]

@@WHOTEEWHO Thank you sir. Will keep you updated on my journey!

[@camel7355]

Lol, convince on the merits of energy on target for a more humane dispatch, also, much less wind deflection for more accuracy at distance.

[@karlantonlillester4884]

The CCI could have a higher point of impact at 100 yards. One inch of height at 100 turns into several at 200 when the speeds are this low.

[@barry7608]

Thank's just about to buy a cheapo Stirling .22mag SS barrel. But am I missing something? I thought barrel length and twist have an impact on down range performance. So what Im saying is, if these figures are meant to be tossed around maybe we need to know barrel length and twist. Wind would also be a significant factor especially if its head-on. Anyway thanks and very interesting.

[@Hunter_300winMag]

Did you ever shoot the CCI at 100 yards? Maybe your POI would be several inches higher @100 than the norma ammo?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Don't remember

[@davidmartinson1528]

I don't have a .22 magnum long gun. I do have an ATM Auto mag II in .22 magnum. I wonder if its worth it to test the drop on that. Might sound silly but what the neck, knowing the drops and ballistics on your guns is always a good thing

[@paulmoss7940]

Had the 6in. Arcadia Machine and Tool model , jammed a lot ,traded it off . My unc has it in .30carbine. They bring good money these days.

[@davidmartinson1528]

@@paulmoss7940 Arcadia models which I also have a longslide in .45acp Went from 1977-2002 My .22 mag is 1987

[@utubewatcher3852]

I had a Ruger in 22mag could hit 5in Plat at 500 yards using cci and that was 25 years ago.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome!

[@khaledq8ty]

Thank you WTW for such beautiful videos.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@gavinmorrison7788]

I have very good accuracy at distance with cci 40gr game point they can shoot a 6 inch group at 350 yds

[@ryanking4506]

I been watching yor videos all day on .22WMR I just bought one yesterday for my B day an I am excited to go shooting an hopefully some coyote an other small game. how well do you think a .22 mag does on a coyote?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Take a coyote just fine

[@johnpoole8321]

Great video WTW, those cci have some pop still @ 200.

[@YellowHammer26]

Thanks for the video 👍👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Lance

[@timetohunt1]

Scope height figures into that drop so if your scope is higher or lower it will make some difference. Not sure of the height of your scope but the drop chart was for 1.5 inches. Thanks for sharing.

[@Khmarth]

I tried this same thing with hornaday 22 wmr holds pretty good at 200 wind may vary

[@DonReynolds-p7o]

Did you clean the barrel between the different bullets, I have found that it makes a big difference.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Nope

[@DonReynolds-p7o]

Whotee if your putting the info out there, shouldn’t it be as accurate as possible ?

[@michaels3288]

Love using your kids marker. I use my kids all the time.

[@Dwayne7834]

Good video and information. Thanks

[@SaltySigma]

Been waitin on this one

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@randywollin5732]

The one variable there is that your 100 yard zero was with the Norma ammo and then you didnt re-zero with the CCI. With that in mind you could probably just shoot a group at 100 with the CCI and add the difference in zero to the drop at 200.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Did you measure your actual muzzle velocity? The advertised box numbers are one thing, but plugging in ballistic numbers need to be based on actual velocity. Seems CCI rates their stuff on 24-inch barrels (as if anyone uses that).

[@lucyloose6727]

I love my Marlin 22 mag and my PMR 30...

[@robertwies6806]

Great rifle for a great round.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍

[@ricktaylor3748]

@@WHOTEEWHO Don't think the .22 mag won't kill deer @ 200+ yards. I've done it several times. Winchester 34 grain hollow point, Ruger 24 inch bbl. stainless.

[@nathanlambshead4778]

@@ricktaylor3748You can legally hunt deer in Maine with 22 wmr rifle. I believe it is the only state. I keep my Savage 93 for varmints though, but in a pinch I would use it on deer if I had to.

[@coffeygrounds5461]

Wonder what the CCI out of your rifle would do at 100 yards? I think you only shot the Hornady on camera at 100 to confirm zero. I'm betting it would be high compared to the Hornady and may explain why your real world drop at 200 was so much less than the chart.

[@jessegalford7942]

I'd like to see hornady sst. Iv had awsome luck at 150 with them.

[@66bigbuds]

I knew what to expect with the .22mag. That's why I don't have one any more. Do you have a .22 hornet? Would like to see that.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Not yet

[@timshelley8635]

Great video!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Tim

[@jeremiah7855]

Love my savage 93fvss I got the 21 inch heavy barrel stainless steel barrel only thing i don't like is the savage mags can be a pain to feed sometimes it's a track driver with cci anything really that's a old box of winchester keep that box I know I would I love old ammo boxes

[@armyreconm60]

I have the same Rifle but a bullet drop retical scope I use 50 grian projectile ..Fedrals ammunition at 200 meters as I live in Australia. I hit a 6 inch target range Conditions @ 200 meters ..kind regards and greetings from Australia 🇦🇺

[@bobbyharr2167]

With the Winchester on the first shot in the on Target video you can see the bullet fly in way left and low

[@russellkeeling4387]

I've done a lot of prairie dog shooting with a .22 mag. It handles distance very well but it gets a lot of wind drift even in a slight breeze. When that happens I have to go to a heavier bullet from a center fire but still a .22 but a good 1000 fps faster.

[@joracer1]

I always like the .22 mag until the .17 hmr came out..... well truth is I still like the .22 mag. Groundhogs don't. I want to get my hands on a .17wsm. Have you done a vid on the .17wsm? Get the bvts I love mine got two...

[@adarshasokansindhya]

Cool result💙💙💙

[@DylanSpencer.270]

I got the same rifle in the same calibre. Awesome shooter

[@thatguyfishingben4794]

Bet your getting a higher velocity than is listed with the cci. Interesting to know what it is to see if that's the factor that changed the drop or no.

[@brucecoleman7412]

I got to watch one live, YEA!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🙌🙌🙌