Best Downriver Playboat? "OZONE VS SUPERNOVA"

Best Downriver Playboat?
Pyranha Ozone VS Dagger SuperNova
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Pyranha's long-awaited return to the river-running playboat market!
The DNA of the Ozone flows from models such as the ProZone, InaZone, and Z.One; unlock mid-rapid play spots, throw some shapes on an eddy line, and just generally enjoy every moment on the water.
A progressive rocker profile accentuated at the bow gives dry rides on a wave, keeps the kayak plaining efficiently when riding rapids or surfing and works with the volume profile to make it simple to initiate a huge range of moves both old and new, from cartwheels to blunts; fear not though, there's plenty of volume to carry you downstream without things getting 'too' fun, and moderate length means the Ozone is short enough to throw around, but long enough to run most rapids and access a heap of play opportunities in all sorts of places.
All in all, the Ozone is ridiculous fun for all abilities and ambitions.
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Progressive Design. Radical Fun.
A whitewater experience tailored to you. The Nova and SuperNova are uniquely designed for two different paddler size ranges to deliver superior performance and unforgettable experiences. The construction of these high-performance play machines is inspired by the full-slice models of the late 90s and early 2000s, with a slew of modern features that only Dagger can execute to perfection. Saddle up, slice, surf, and spin your way to hours of amusement in the all-new Nova and SuperNova.
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[@DFSchappell]

Make all the comparison videos you want! They don't get old... they're great

[@WadeHarrison]

Good to know this was something on my list because the ozone being a free ride kayak not full slice but close

[@TverangerTrent]

Now we need a Loki 2 comparison :) the full slice creekers

[@WadeHarrison]

🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼😉😉😉

[@patrickbusche5665]

Super comparison, thank you very much, the reason why I got an Ozone was, that you made a great demo on the fladdle as well about a year ago, showing how easy it is, throwing the Ozone around. Main difference you didnt point out is, No Drainplug .... Drainplug 😁👍

[@WadeHarrison]

😂 true no bung hole

[@macfawlty]

Your reviews and comparison videos are so timely. Makes folks wanna buy another boat they didn't know they needed but now they do.

[@WadeHarrison]

hahah yeah trying to keep the info out there

[@kevinhill.8]

Fantastic comparison, and thx for the shoutout! I was in my Ozone other day after a 7-month hiatus (due mostly to winter flows and the purchase of an Antix 2.0). You are spot on at 12:56 describing how narrow it feels when you first get into it after paddling other boats for a while, but then you get used to it pretty quickly, and man is it fun being so loose and playful, esp with how narrow the stern is right behind the hips.

[@WadeHarrison]

No problem buddy and you have great content out there

[@brentwade9346]

I A/B'd these last night at the park - ironically, both mine since the guy who bought my Ozone just happened to be there with it. From my much lower experience perspective, I have to agree with everything, Wade. The tail is more playful on the Ozone, and I found that the extra volume in the bow made it a little more helpful for running the rapids...but that's what I have a Ripper 2 for ;-). The SuperNova outshined it in everything else - way more initial stability, much smoother on edge, and an absolute bomber for surfing waves and holes. I pulled off a sweet bow-stall on the wave in the SN last night - I felt like it loaded with more control because of the length and lower volume, where trying to load the Ozone was more like an on/off switch. The comfort of the SN outfitting is INSANE! I was immediately reminded of how much I didn't care for the fit in the Ozone for me...couldn't wait to get back in the SN. I also feel the plastic is a little softer in the SN - it scratches, where the Ozone plastic seemed to crease. In fairness, the guy who bought my Ozone preferred the instant feedback he had in it, and he is a considerably more experienced paddler than myself. Love the SuperNova! Can't wait to try it in ocean waves back home.

[@WadeHarrison]

All great feedback thanks for that update!

[@PyranhaKayaks]

Thanks for another fair review, Wade! We're just stoked to see options for different preferences in this arena!

[@WadeHarrison]

Thanks!

[@spud4169]

I'd love a homeslice on water comparison. Just got a homeslice and want to make sure I'm getting everything out of it I can, plus I love the comparison vids xD

[@WadeHarrison]

Yeah I have paddled the homeslice couple times but never done a review on one

[@DownstreamV]

nice review man. Pretty much spot on what I would say. Cant wait till you get back in that ozone !

[@WadeHarrison]

Yup we can do an ozone nova day soon buddy!

[@martini7454]

I'm over here wondering what slicey boat to get next spring. And I immediately found this perfect comparison of my top two choices. You're the best, thanks!!!

[@WadeHarrison]

Glad I could help

[@dangerjudy5334]

Keep doing comparisons, they are awesome!

[@WadeHarrison]

This one I was excited for because it’s a free ride boat not really a full slice I came up with it when I did the Cheoah in the supernova and was like this is a great down river player also and remember how good the ozone was at that..

[@Cary_Glenn]

I picked up a large Ozone this year after not paddling for several years. People mention that it feels narrow but I learned to kayak in 90s and the Ozone feels very wide compared to my old boats like the Necky Rip. The one thing I noticed with the higher knee position is that it is harder for me to roll, it likes to stall out on the side. The Ozone is very dry, it was virtually bone dry after several hours of river running and surfing. It is also very comfortable, I can sit in it for hours without a problem.

[@WadeHarrison]

Nice feedback yeah I paddled the ozone for awhile I liked it

[@r.e.johnson801]

goin with Pyranna..nice volume..and play ..NS

[@WadeHarrison]

Yeah, really can't go wrong either way

[@Zimtfischchen66]

I bought myself an ozone basically as soon as they were available over here in Germany I have the L, normally have trouble fitting in playfull kayaks, in the Ozone I have tons of room, it really opened my eyes to the world of freeride /playboating, deffinatly want to test out the Super Nova as soon as possible though sadly haven't had the chance yet as it is not available over here yet

[@WadeHarrison]

The ozone and supernova both are so very roomy yaks

[@nathankendle7571]

I love the Ozone! Got it early spring from my man Don at High Water Hobbies and I have ran Stony,Savage,LoYo,Doah at High and low water and about to do Upper Yough in it, surfs like a dream, squirts and splats.Its all around Great boat!

[@WadeHarrison]

Good feedback yeah that’s exactly my thoughts on the ozone

[@user-ut3mi8si8f]

@Wade Harrison Could you comment further on the seat position (moved back) and the impact on how the Supernova performs, please? I had to move the seat back to fit (35" inseam). Have only paddled in ocean waves so far. Thx.

[@WadeHarrison]

Back it handles downriver better but makes the bow little harder to drop for cartwheels

[@d.j.d.5617]

Great comparison, was thinking trading my Ozone for a Supernova but think I’ll hang on to the Ozone for a while yet. Any chance of a comparison with some of Corran’s boats, F-Bomb, Glide etc .

[@WadeHarrison]

There is a guy that has a glide there I’m going to try to work out a demo i would but it’s impossible to find any of those here in the southeast

[@AnonymousOtters]

Super excited for a Nova one of these days. Love the OZONE, but I can't get along with Pyranha's current outfitting, it sucks. Wish they would beef it up with more adjustability

[@WadeHarrison]

It’s like anything of value It sells out fast

[@alanhancox1358]

I have been using a medium Ozone for a while now, going for the Super Nova next..as it seems to be all I wanted the Ozone to be!..better at surfing waves, stable and more playable..this makes better where I was dissapointed with Ozone..although the Ozone was exceptional on a standing wave!

[@WadeHarrison]

Yeah that’s why I did the comparison I felt the supernova At weight between 170-210 was a really good river running player not just a full slice play boat and is actually closer to the medium ozone then people might think.

[@joshhughes1319]

I would think volume doesn’t matter only when your dealing with similar volume? An 80 gallon creeker has got to be different than a 55 gallon boat of any shape? My M Jed is 55 gallons and I’m interested to see the difference with the super nova I’m picking up this weekend.

[@WadeHarrison]

Well yes I agree to a degree but comparing a boat like the Jed to a full slice is apples to oranges compare the Jed to rockstar jitsu möbius ect

[@UrsaMusic]

I tried the Supernova. Still weight 170, still gonna get a Nova, but probably won't be on anything harder than Class IV- that i've been on before. Surprised how many people get an Ozone and sell it, doesn't seem like it's taking off the way we thought it would

[@WadeHarrison]

Oh for sure up to east class 4 and yeah I think a lot bought the ozone and thought it was more full slice and it wasn’t and then sold them

[@user-lr2vs9ty1p]

Hi wade, looking for a replacement for stolen medium ozone? Have a dragorossi Kush for river running and a rockstar for play boating at 180lbs dry worried the supernova won’t be playful enough and the nova will sit too low in the water? When I brought the medium ozone I tried the small and it worked ok, what would you recommend thanks

[@WadeHarrison]

Oh at 180 go supernova

[@billyb3689]

Slice boats are class,. I paddle mixmaster which is obvs on the squirt boat end, but I think it's a pity more top freestylers aren't promoting what these can do. It's all splats, cartwheels, and squirts, which are cool, but these things wave wheel, tricky woo, lunar, kickflip, and split wheel so well too, pity we often don't see this as much, as they make the easier grades a playground

[@WadeHarrison]

I think the air stuff like the loops mcnasty space Godzilla ect is the reason your so limited on air with full slice me personally I like the longer full slice because of moves like you suggested there seem to be more of a art and style to those and the air stuff is just big power moves

[@billyb3689]

@@WadeHarrison 100% agree, the splitwheel imo looks so much better with a longer boat

[@huckwhisenhunt4940]

I would love to see your thoughts on the Loki maybe a review but there just isn’t many videos on the loki.

[@WadeHarrison]

I have paddled the med and L and thought it was good but not great I never done a review on one if I get a chance to try one again I might

[@huckwhisenhunt4940]

@@WadeHarrison awesome I was thinking about maybe picking one up I paddle a homeslice and I just want a slice boat to mix it up a little.

[@oscoastierob]

That hull on the ozone with the tapered edge on the stern is directly from the original InaZone. Nothing new, but one of the features I always really liked about the OG InaZone.

[@WadeHarrison]

yup its a throwback and I like it

[@kendallrussell5195]

No it is a repressing of the OG the Medieval

[@oscoastierob]

@@kendallrussell5195 no it isn’t. The hull on the Medieval isn’t like either of these boats or the InaZone, I’ve owned all of them and they’re not anything alike in the hull department.

[@kendallrussell5195]

@@oscoastierob Sarcasm some people miss it. Some of the best WW kayaks were made 30 years ago and people are rediscoving the fun. I still paddle my Medieval regularly as well as my New Wave Bigfoot.

[@oscoastierob]

@@kendallrussell5195 I paddled a Medieval for years up until about 2 years ago but my size 15 feet can’t handle it anymore

[@audiophizile13]

How would you compare the supernova to the "old" 4fun? When I got more comfortable/paddled more I always wanted a 4fun to have... More fun but not a play boat.

[@WadeHarrison]

I have only paddle the fun briefly I was not a fan of the fun series personally I loved the Antix though

[@rivertrashmedia]

need to do a nova vs wavesport siren / super nova vs Ace comparison

[@WadeHarrison]

I have a foreplay maybe will do that one

[@beckyyzaguirre1032]

Hi Wade, how would you compare these two boats against the Loki?

[@WadeHarrison]

ozone is actually closer to the Loki then the super Nova

[@mishael40]

Hi, I weigh 200lbs and am looking for a more playful boat than my medium Rewind or Code. I am new to downriver play, which one would you recommend?

[@WadeHarrison]

the supernova

[@Bdohazelnuts]

So, first let me preface my statements with the fact that I am one of those crazy hand paddlers. I got a L Ozone last year, and I liked it, but pretty constantly felt a bit nervous in it, just always felt tippy. I really did not like the knee position in it, at all. I agree that the Ozone is easier to get spinning on eddy lines. Now I got a Supernova at the beginning of the summer and absolutely LOVE it. It feels absolutely stable on everything I have paddled it on. To me, it might be the best hand paddling boat ever made. And while I can get the Ozone spinning more easily, I can get the Supernova more vertical consistently, and can get my ends switching pretty easily. It also feels ridiculously well balanced between bow and stern. Altogether, I am one of those out there that liked the Ozone, and would give it a 7/10, but the Supernova is a solid 10/10, easily my favorite boat that I have paddled.

[@WadeHarrison]

Thanks buddy that’s Good feedback on both

[@briankrueger1142]

Great comparison, but the last one? What about the id? 🙂

[@WadeHarrison]

Oh dam I need to do that one yes I will do that and like that be the last one

[@philipmcdonald5629]

I couldn't fit in the id, but I did like the prescription rx, it wasn't very popular here in the UK though

[@cloudburst1215]

Any people paddled the Mix Master 7.4? I am looking for a new downriver play boat and coming from the Mix Master. How do these compare with the Mix Master?

[@WadeHarrison]

The mix master 7.5 I had it for awhile and it’s not that great down river or on a wave but cartwheels the easiest ever

[@cloudburst1215]

@@WadeHarrison Thank you, really enjoying all your reviews and comparisons. I live over an hour from any boat demo center, so your work helps out greatly to narrow down a boat to buy.

[@jebsjayc]

Is it worth the extra dollar to swop from a Loki for either of these boats on class 3 ?

[@WadeHarrison]

Short answer no

[@philipmcdonald5629]

Funny, that is the exact way I'd describe the surf performance between my super ego and pyrahna s8 235. Must be baked into the brand!

[@WadeHarrison]

Yup I’m the dna

[@rustyshackleford4299]

@@WadeHarrison Surf Daddy, is it really you? Or are ya just baked again? Don't forget to bring a towel!

[@charliebil8613]

Both are great but dagger super ego is still my favourite

[@WadeHarrison]

Ego is so good

[@oregonxyz]

which is better on ocean surfing waves?

[@WadeHarrison]

I would say the ozone because the narrowing hull but have not had either on surf

[@oregonxyz]

@@WadeHarrison I may be demoing a large Ozone in the surf - I'll let you know. I can tell you that I had a wavesport score a long time ago and it worked great in the ocean surf and I could surf river waves just by rocking my hips - but I HATED that thing going down river.

[@o__odemon8915]

Supernova seems like a good pick.

[@WadeHarrison]

I can see that a good choice for some

[@powskier]

My friend say the supernova is much harder to roll. Is that so?

[@WadeHarrison]

It is this kayak Is very wide and flat in the center

[@powskier]

@@WadeHarrison But if you are pretty tall with even longer arms, it shouldn't be a problem?

[@rustyshackleford4299]

All day dawg, all daze...

[@WadeHarrison]

Yup 😉

[@rustyshackleford178]

I thought the Ozone had the knees too tall and close same with the 303

[@WadeHarrison]

Do you did not like the knee position?

[@rustyshackleford178]

@@WadeHarrison not really, maybe i could learn to like it

[@WadeHarrison]

@@rustyshackleford178 no i know others that don’t like Pyranha knee position just everyone I talked to about The ozone likes it

[@joshmcnicholl9842]

Interesting that the Delirious with a similar edge design as Supernova looks like it wears heaps better than the Dagger plastic

[@WadeHarrison]

Oh for sure a prijon will Wear better then anything roto molded out there today

[@crackerbat]

I mean.. how about a supernova vs loki.....?

[@WadeHarrison]

Yea I will try to get that one also

[@kaiheltola921]

Downriver? Ozone is the most difficult boat you can imagine for downriver! I would paddle one notch harder rivers with my Rockstar. Ozone is a very fast, but not loose at all, surfing kayak.

[@WadeHarrison]

Thanks for the feedback and I disagree about the ozone downriver performance plus the rockstar is like paddling a Kleenex box down river 😂

[@paddlepaddlepaddle8147]

Cut both boats in half, join the Super Nova bow to the Ozone's stern....perfect!!!

[@WadeHarrison]

hahha sounds like a 3500$ mistake to cut these in half but good 💡