WHY 43311 IS BETTER THAN 44111 IN WUTHERING WAVES FULL TESTING AND RESULTS

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SkullCJay

SkullCJay

29 күн бұрын

We test out the most popular damage echo set ups to see which ones are the best and heres what we found out
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@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
Edit: This is not a response to big boss GACHA SMACK, I was cooking this video up since yesterday on stream and u can check the vod here on my youtube channel, i did grab inspiration from his thumbnail though
@Dumsys
@Dumsys 26 күн бұрын
definitely not lol
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
@@Dumsys check yesterdays stream, the vod is here on youtube, the thumbnails is DEFINETLY inspired by him though lol
@TheShootingstarhero
@TheShootingstarhero 26 күн бұрын
Lol my statement now didn't age over 5min well 😂
@Dumsys
@Dumsys 26 күн бұрын
@SkullCJay of course I'm talking about the thumbnail especially
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
@@Dumsys oh yeah that was inspired by boss man gacha smack for sure
@georgecalderon9773
@georgecalderon9773 26 күн бұрын
Everyone talking about 44111 or 43311 but no one is talking about 3333 😔
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
lmao tf this made me laugh, great comment bro
@sudhirkumar1189
@sudhirkumar1189 26 күн бұрын
In case of Calcharo can't put 3333 because we need electro dmg which eco mostly used mepis tmpest and thundering so if we go with ur suggestions we missd that electro dmg... 2nd scenario .. U Can build Calcharo put all Atk build with lingering echo then but how we test which one is good...? Electro vs lingering questions is this Which one is good...? And Egnore spellings plz 😅
@dantae9537
@dantae9537 26 күн бұрын
Some random guy: I build 11111
@JnPie
@JnPie 26 күн бұрын
​@@sudhirkumar1189 bro that 3333 set up is 120% pure electro dmg plus 2pcs set would be 130% electro dmg with around 24% crit and 150% CRIT DMG
@purpleacegaming
@purpleacegaming 19 күн бұрын
33,33 is actually something to look at but only if you are running a two piece two piece
@Evol_Tendencies
@Evol_Tendencies 26 күн бұрын
44111 = entry level beginner build 43311= min/maxed endgame perfectionist
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
I agree with this
@azura1337
@azura1337 26 күн бұрын
by just 8-10% lost ,I disagree and I would say 44111 with good sub stat and maxed = Endgame build
@Evol_Tendencies
@Evol_Tendencies 26 күн бұрын
@@azura1337 its mathematically worse, but that doesn't mean it can't be used in the endgame, which is why i specified that it was the min/max perfectionist build, as longer as the player is good, they can kill anything with either set
@Evol_Tendencies
@Evol_Tendencies 26 күн бұрын
a perfectionist wouldn't take any % loss
@azura1337
@azura1337 26 күн бұрын
@@Evol_Tendencies I agree but "44111 = entry level beginner build" is not the correct expression for = "meta build (non perfectionist)". META does not mean perfectionist, right ;-) Not having char constellations or a 5* full maxed weapon is also mathematically worse, it's just about to find the right sweep spot and still having a build that can beat the end game
@Cloveristical
@Cloveristical 26 күн бұрын
Small update for your video about echo pity: there are different counters for Overlord class and Calamity (weekly) class. So if you want to farm bosses like Aix or Tempest, you can't just pre-kill Dreamless and get the pity. But it working pretty well if you farm the Geochelon, thanks for your video, it was very helpful
@pirlouit9116
@pirlouit9116 26 күн бұрын
43311 is definitly better with good rolls, but infinitely harder to setup. I wish I stoped rolling def & HP on 3 costs substats... It's already a pain to find correct main stats / set combos... RNG is killing me but I got a pretty good 44111 setup for now.
@manuelcavallo1393
@manuelcavallo1393 24 күн бұрын
Just run 2 broken sets it's literally just better in every way possible
@buggyboxx4977
@buggyboxx4977 26 күн бұрын
The thing is in this early game, we cannot choose what stat we got, but we need to utilize all the stat given by RNG. This comparison means NOTHING at early game, but this is USEFUL for Min-maxing your DPS.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
the thing is weve all been playing for the same amount of time, and all my community as well as myself rock the 43311 build on all our characters, as do cn veterans, beta testers and cc program players, and while sure its WAYY harder to get a good 43311 build going its also going to set up your stats for endgame so even if it takes a week or so more to get its worth it, and thats not counting t he cost of leveling a random extra 1 and 4 cost echo just to replace them later, and if u feed them u still lose a % of the mats, but theres nothing wrong with the 44111 build for now this is more for the min/max players
@ArmisHart
@ArmisHart 26 күн бұрын
​@@SkullCJay theres absolutely 0 point to waste my time going for the other build 43311 ALL THE WAY.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
@@ArmisHart i feel 100% the same way bro
@Darlemonte
@Darlemonte 26 күн бұрын
​@@SkullCJay Dude they're just making excuses. The literal first thing I did when I opened the game was unlock the entire map and all fast travels. The world scales with the player. Unless he just can't defeat elites without mid-game stats/equipment.
@user-hd9se2ny3q
@user-hd9se2ny3q 26 күн бұрын
@@Darlemonte same and I beat every elite with any echos aswell
@Ritzue__________
@Ritzue__________ 26 күн бұрын
For me, the thing is you'll lose like 20%-30% dmg if you use 44111
@chinnerchilla
@chinnerchilla 26 күн бұрын
Yup we should never push 44111 just farm out the 3 cost until you get the main stat it’s no big deal
@s2wuolf508
@s2wuolf508 26 күн бұрын
I did the math for Havoc Rover with no substats, 44111 is literally 88% of 43311’s dmg lol
@TEMP3STX
@TEMP3STX 26 күн бұрын
The dmg bonus% mainstat is very impactful in this game compared to like how genshin handles taking dmg% into damage
@fierypickles4450
@fierypickles4450 26 күн бұрын
Day 5 of no on set havoc set dmg from the wolf 😭
@yvngchildsupport4261
@yvngchildsupport4261 26 күн бұрын
Plz do proper research it’s not 20-30 it’s 10-15
@lenaic3360
@lenaic3360 26 күн бұрын
I agree with your testing. My Jianxin does noticably more with 43311, that 60% aero is huge
@LeighluSky
@LeighluSky 26 күн бұрын
so glad you explained this can always count on you!! thank you
@shs9919
@shs9919 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! Please can you test various weapon on main dps characters? For example atk%/atk 5* sword vs jiyan signature weapon or autumntrace? I`ve seen many people that rated atk%/atk weapon higher than the swords with crit rate/crit chance!
@brxye
@brxye 26 күн бұрын
One of the best explaining Guides i've watched about WuWa!
@Akantorz
@Akantorz 26 күн бұрын
I don't think anyone said 4411 was better for power but just for getting started since the 3 costs are more random. That's it. Kinda feels like a silly argument.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
this was just about which one is better overall, just because the 44111 is easier to achieve doesn't make it better, and wayyy to many people have the question on which one is better, they aint asking the obvious which one is easier to get they asking which one is better u feel me
@Akantorz
@Akantorz 26 күн бұрын
@@SkullCJay Understandable, it makes sense that people don't listen and think 44111 was better. Not your fault, but thanks for proving the data anyway! Nice video!
@kieragard
@kieragard 26 күн бұрын
​@@Akantorzthere was one idiot at least that is promoting 44111. But early on beggars can't be choosers, so it's whatever you have at the moment.
@Akantorz
@Akantorz 26 күн бұрын
@@kieragard Yeah it happens, 44111 should just be for getting started or if you have to gear multiple characters, then you go 43311. It happens though.
@jhongerale7349
@jhongerale7349 26 күн бұрын
the electro dmg boost is so much more valuable than the extra crit just because its a multiplicative stat on top of a multiplicative stat. if you just stack crit with the 44111 build you will just have your crit dmg multiplier but if you stack the electro dmg boost you will have the electro boost to apply to your attack and then that resulting number will be multiplied again based on your crit dmg. Even if your crit dmg or chance is lower than the 44111 build you will do more dmg with the 43311 build just because of the stacking multipliers
@JoseLopez-qm4vm
@JoseLopez-qm4vm 26 күн бұрын
had to comment cause a short kept judging for not doing so lmao XD. Awesome vid as always man
@darklord32
@darklord32 26 күн бұрын
Thanks so much bro helps alot with builds bro makes it so much easier bro thanks my king
@HeyItssCorey
@HeyItssCorey 26 күн бұрын
I've seen some people running a 4431 build as well for a 2/2 thunder, 2/2 lingering.
@maj0ga.
@maj0ga. 26 күн бұрын
My main account I use 43311 My Rover-only account I have both a 43311 and a 4431 build since 5 set bonuses do nothing for this account. Haven't fully tested the 4431 as I want to try double crit dmg/havoc echoes + 5 star crit rate weapon + crit rate food.
@corrupticecubes418
@corrupticecubes418 22 күн бұрын
It’s nice that 44111 is easier to farm but I would only upgrade to 43311 if you need to to beat endgame, or if you happen upon a good 43311 set. Also I hope the devs change the dig bonus to only be of the sets the echo can be. For example, if the thundering heron crane is either void thunder or fusion set, then the dmg bonus should be electro or fusion, never aero, Spector, etc.
@krystlebell5491
@krystlebell5491 26 күн бұрын
this is always so confusing i never know what to do so im glad for the advice you gave this should make it easier for me now thank you
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
Happy to help!
@miyamotomusashi5480
@miyamotomusashi5480 26 күн бұрын
4-4-1-1-1 might become comparable in the future if we get a character that can provide a relatively high boost to DMG bonus(Obviously more than Verina) and have good uptime...
@saiavabel6076
@saiavabel6076 26 күн бұрын
Ty for video there not enough videos like this on wuwa everyone only talk in paper/theory but dnt test it out. Also i got a question. Does tacet feilds echo gold/purple drop rate depend on our databank level?
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
I belive it does ive gotten more gold since i got to db 20 but it could just be luck, and thank you for commenting on the video it means a lot
@HopeEnstine
@HopeEnstine 26 күн бұрын
if it means anything I have a calcharo(lv60) with 56% CRT, and 307% CRD(with 1489 ATK stat, I have tested with a 4-4-1-1-1(just crt and crd stats) and I have done 13-14k with ult start attack, and constant 2-4k hits while crting and around 700-900 dmg from attacks. my electro build 4-3-3-1-1(with 1501 ATK) has 59.2% CRT with 228% CRTD, with electro DMG% echos instead. I have done multiple tests and have found that electro does a solid consistent 1-2k dmg and ult dmg procs around 11k-13k(Ive done about 13 runs and this is my take on the stats)
@zeroBRS
@zeroBRS 26 күн бұрын
I feel like 44111=43311 IF the roll is average. (most of the time the roll should be average) If I remember correctly CN did some number, with perfect roll 43311 should be better by about 5-7%. Source Prydwen: -Crit rate: 6.3% - 10.5% -Crit damage: 12.6% - 21% -Atk: 6.4% - 11.6% -Basic Attack: 6.4% - 12.4% -Heavy/Skill/Ultim: 6.4% - 11.6% I feel like this video should put more attention on sub stat roll.
@Khatz507
@Khatz507 26 күн бұрын
im using 44111 build and its working amazing for me but i plan on switching to 43311 when i have the resources for it.
@ClasherJuice
@ClasherJuice 26 күн бұрын
we getting full course meals with these videos
@gamebusterinc.3914
@gamebusterinc.3914 26 күн бұрын
Thing is I have an issue in my account, my calcharo currently has a thundering Memphis with 56 crit dmg( 44 crit main stat with 12 on sub) but no crit rate, unless I'm lucky to get 10.5 crit rate on his sub stat for the 3 costs and 1 costs I might be forced to kill tempest just to makeup for his lack of crit rate, so I'm guessing ill run 44111 on him for now
@infernoop609
@infernoop609 26 күн бұрын
video starts at 5.50 thank me later
@shadowwalker4633
@shadowwalker4633 26 күн бұрын
The diff is not a bigg deal just get good crit stats and dmg you can easily switch later .Its hard to start on high crit sub stats so i would clearly suggest going double crit rate at start till you get 43311 or a crit dmg piece which ll make it pretty equal
@timgravelle3253
@timgravelle3253 26 күн бұрын
getting 2 three cost echo's with right damage and set with good sub stats is not what I'd call easy or cheap (you have to waste a lot of resources). 2 four costs is 100% easier to get and should be what people start with. Switch if and when you get the required 3 cost echo's. My Rover uses 43311 sits at 1600 attack 61.7 crit and 225 cd while my Calcharo uses 44111 sits at 1326 attack 72.7 crit and 234.5 cd (both at level 60). And just started building my Lingyang on mix set 44111 (only level 15 echo's) 1100 attack 54.6 crit and 201.9 cd.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
facts
@dyderikm5819
@dyderikm5819 17 күн бұрын
It's hard to perfectly test this since each echo has different stats when you tune them. It would be much easier to fudge the numbers because of this too, the 43311 could have the stats you want and the 44111 could have low rolls and random defs throw in there and vise versa. You would have to get each echo rolled with stats that are within the same dispel of tuned stats for this to matter for testing. (Not speaking in factual, just putting my thoughts out there is all.)
@Cazero
@Cazero 26 күн бұрын
Curious on how a 3333 would compare with these.
@LalalalaMhie
@LalalalaMhie 26 күн бұрын
I've been using 43311 on my Encore only because I got the 2 elite selector on Illusive Realm Shop and I want to have the 5-set fusion damage bonus. My subdps and support is currently using 44111, I'll also want to build them with 43311 but I'll have to wait for another selector to transition. 😊
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
i love encores damage and gameplay, check out my latest build video it showcases my encore
@myst7042
@myst7042 26 күн бұрын
Keep up the good video. Assuming different multiplier between elemental bonus and atk bonus, what do you think about 4431 vs 44111 build, which one closer to 43311? I assume 4431 also need less echo exp to max vs 44111
@zycragodlmv2831
@zycragodlmv2831 26 күн бұрын
4431 can not active the full set
@myst7042
@myst7042 26 күн бұрын
Ah nvm, totally forgot about full set
@tc.n
@tc.n 26 күн бұрын
dont need full set if you use 2pc lingering 2pc thunder
@LostWallet
@LostWallet 22 күн бұрын
44111 simply need you to farm for world boss, which respawn every few minute, while for 43311 required you to farm for specific elites that once killed will not respawn until the next day. the chance that you get the correct main stat for the 3 cost echo is 1/9, while the chance you get the correct stat for your 4 cost echo is 1/6. both set can clear every content in the game.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 22 күн бұрын
while true the game has been out too little for people to already wanna go for 44111, id get it if it was months in and people were tired of farming but wasting materials this early is not a good thing
@LostWallet
@LostWallet 22 күн бұрын
@@SkullCJay yeah, im just putting information out there, for unlucky people who cant get the correct main stats for their set. because I know how ridiculous it is to farm for even one of them to use, not to mention rerolling.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 22 күн бұрын
@@LostWallet i feel ya bro and appreciate you sharing the info to people
@thebrotherblaze
@thebrotherblaze 26 күн бұрын
I have been looking for this
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
glad to help
@Yoyo-sy5kl
@Yoyo-sy5kl 19 күн бұрын
If you take into account supports like YinLin, i think the margin between 44111 and 43311 becomes even smaller.
@guyers6247
@guyers6247 26 күн бұрын
Im using the 4-4-1-1-1 build for both calcharo and JIyan and I love it. I do agree with you that the 4-3-3-1-1 is 10-15% better in damage but its so fun running the 4-4-1-1-1 and easier to build. Great video again brother. Keep up the good work and helping us out.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
yeah the 44111 is very comfortable to build and to use im glad your having fun with your build and appreciate you sharing your opinion with me, thanks for the support
@EnvyIXA
@EnvyIXA 26 күн бұрын
Yea I was rocking 44111 at day one and actually needed this video to confirm my initial thoughts. But now I know 😂
@EnvyIXA
@EnvyIXA 26 күн бұрын
Also since their is no reason to get the fastest times or a reason to even do it. And being a single player game it's literally what's best for you in any given scenario
@MultiFlame11
@MultiFlame11 26 күн бұрын
@@EnvyIXA if its for support builds or sub-dps like mortefi i try to get 43311 for energy regeneration otherwise i run 44111 unless i get lucky
@EnvyIXA
@EnvyIXA 26 күн бұрын
@MultiFlame11 I'm using that setup for my yinlin and jianxin but not for main dps I guess I might have to change it up. But getting that 3 cost main stat is my weakness rn 😫
@qShadoWz
@qShadoWz 26 күн бұрын
My quesstion is how did you get 100% crit rate on calcharo?xd I see ur echos give u 57% , mine gives me 54% but my total is only 60 ish % what do you have that brings u to 100%? And your weapon is only 17% of that My forte is all maxed out (lvl 60)
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
Weapon and also food, everyone uses food to fight hologram bosses so i made sure the testing was fair
@qShadoWz
@qShadoWz 26 күн бұрын
@@SkullCJay oh I forgot about food, thanks for answering
@ezade4323
@ezade4323 26 күн бұрын
Going off main stats since substats is same all around. Depending on your luck and weapon as well as talents and how much crit you can get should determine which you run. I know crit rate main stat is also 22% and the same amount from the purple food most people will have use for which is arguably better than crit dmg main stat until you get enough crit rate without it to be consistent. There is also a crit rate gold food that is 30%. So if you can get a crit rate weapon or enough substats to get around 40% crit rate without food then crit dmg% will always be better for mainstat shich is why I am not including it below in the mainstats though this all depends on what you have and your RNG. Keep in mind the base crit dmg is pretty much a 50% increase in dmg the way it calculates even if it says 150% which is different than other % additions in the game for some reason. All the viable ones for a full 5 piece set bonus depending on how much crit rate you have below. I also included the stat% increases from 1 cost echo main stats which does also help out. 43311 = 44%cdmg 60%edmg 36%atk/def(45.6%hp) 44111 88% cdmg 54%atk/def(68.4%hp) 33311 90% edmg 36%atk/def(45.6%hp) Now since I ignored substats will list all the possible substats. Keep in mind 5 echoes and each can have 5 stats for a total of 25 substats. Though limited to 1 roll maximum of a each type of stat per echo so at max can have 5 of a given stat roll. HP 320 - 580 ATK 30 - 70 DEF 30 - 70 HP% 6.4% - 11.6% ATK% 6.4% - 11.6% DEF% 8.1% - 14.7% CRIT Rate 6.3% - 10.5% CRIT DMG 12.6% - 21% Energy Regen 5.6% - 14.9% Basic Attack DMG Bonus 6.4% - 12.4% Heavy Attack DMG Bonus 6.4% - 11.6% Resonance Skill DMG Bonus 6.4% - 11.6% Resonance Liberation DMG Bonus 6.4% - 11.6%
@NonstopNoah
@NonstopNoah 26 күн бұрын
Its as simple as this, 44111 is good early game when you're stretching resources to get a bunch of chars to a workable state. But when you're ready to go all in on some chars and min-max, you want to do it on the 43311. Different builds for different situations. Keep up the good work fam 👍
@TheShootingstarhero
@TheShootingstarhero 26 күн бұрын
Idk why it feels like i seen a yt vid of someone saying to do the 44111 build and next thing you know heres your video
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
44111 is also good and easier to build so im sure thats why they said that, sur eu miss out on damage but u can get it super fast
@twalker5801
@twalker5801 26 күн бұрын
Everyone knows that 43311 is better IDEALLY, but 44111 lets you more easily get a non-garbage crit ratio without insane luck.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
agreed bro
@Cxrsds
@Cxrsds 25 күн бұрын
keep up the content brother haha
@aonzzung
@aonzzung 22 күн бұрын
I used to think to do the test like this but gave up due to lack of echo upgrade stuff. 😂
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 22 күн бұрын
i sacrificed everything to do this test lol
@vforgod
@vforgod 26 күн бұрын
They need to up the cost for the LvL 20 data bank 16 would be a great number LoL
@lepakingrudeen4963
@lepakingrudeen4963 26 күн бұрын
can you build 300% crit damage?
@Pootier276
@Pootier276 26 күн бұрын
It's actually such a big difference between the 2, now people can't really tunnel on just the crit stats
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
exactly bro
@arius9748
@arius9748 26 күн бұрын
A perfect 44111 build vrs A perfect 43311 build, the 43311 build beat the 44111 build overall by 33%(unless you're using a 44111 healer set on Baizhi then it's META ASF) btw you should definitely try that HYPER HEALER Baizhi build it's very nice
@yoakedan503
@yoakedan503 26 күн бұрын
Interesting, in the end you need some Crit breakpoint ... If you want to start min maxing
@Maximus.6578
@Maximus.6578 26 күн бұрын
Great vid and yea 43311 may be pain to farm but does a significant more dmg compared to 44111
@user-cl9rj4fk1b
@user-cl9rj4fk1b 26 күн бұрын
I am using 4431 a bit different than others but it's fine low atk and set bonuses and I know its not optimal but if u have good substats then it runs fine
@hado9053
@hado9053 26 күн бұрын
Damn that 100cc is insane 😮
@jmtnaico129
@jmtnaico129 26 күн бұрын
Glad to know cuz I was a little lost
@purpleacegaming
@purpleacegaming 26 күн бұрын
Depends on your rolls too bro
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
agreed
@slyreaper2848
@slyreaper2848 26 күн бұрын
These 3 costs will be the death of me. Screwing with my emotions Smokey
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
bro tell me about it ive been farming the 4 cost bird for yinlin for 3 days now i hate that stupid bird lol
@slyreaper2848
@slyreaper2848 26 күн бұрын
@@SkullCJay and it's even worse if you're not UL 40 with this 50/50 drop rate ☠
@grimm7013
@grimm7013 26 күн бұрын
@@SkullCJay at what databank/union level would we start getting gold 3cost and gold 1cost ?
@slyreaper2848
@slyreaper2848 23 күн бұрын
@@grimm7013 15
@jokodassad
@jokodassad 26 күн бұрын
yeah i run 44111 for know because its hard to get good substats, maybe later into endgame ill change to 43311
@fauzinugraha3123
@fauzinugraha3123 26 күн бұрын
Thank you!!
@jupitia51
@jupitia51 26 күн бұрын
me as a fellow calch main seeing 0:00 *DETERMINATION INTENSIFIES*
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
Lmaooo
@Flamezz74-
@Flamezz74- 26 күн бұрын
holy shit 100cr and 250cd WOW
@Opxbcm
@Opxbcm 26 күн бұрын
Food buff tho
@TEMP3STX
@TEMP3STX 26 күн бұрын
​@@Opxbcmand has the crit rate broadblade equipped if you minus the base 5% plus food and crit rate weapon stat it drops to 48% from echoes which is still some above average lucky rolls
@ThisKidLennon
@ThisKidLennon 26 күн бұрын
Dang bro ur heron is BIS
@billytringuyen1
@billytringuyen1 26 күн бұрын
- food crit buff still really good
@lijiexiong
@lijiexiong 26 күн бұрын
Before CR 40 pushing for 4 3 3 1 1 min max requires too much resources and tacet field farming to roll for the optimal stats. 4 4 1 1 1 is to stack double crit chance so you can get calcharo to 70% crit early and be viable, wish you'd have mentioned this more.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
i mentioned its an easy way to get those crit stats since farming the 3 cost is hard but i personally belive that its not worth leveling up another 1 cost and a 4 cost for a week or so of a good build specially with how expensive it is to level up echoes, and specially if your going to replace them or feed them later losing u materials, but that's just my personal point of view after testing and such, i dont think theres anything wrong with the 44111 build and for those running it its fine and a lot more chill, this is more for the min/max type stats, thank you for commenting though it means a lot
@lijiexiong
@lijiexiong 26 күн бұрын
@@SkullCJay All good, I reallly liked the video, its just that 4 4 1 1 1 was never meant to be a min max. even without any crit substats both of them levelled gives 44% crit and with 5% base is 49% crit chance. If you used the battle pass wep it'll almost be 70. Your calcharo is already at the endgame state where he has a pretty much perfect 4 3 3 1 1 set up and just needs something better than the standard banner 5 star wep to go even more bonkers
@elixir_jx
@elixir_jx 26 күн бұрын
The reason I use 44111 is I don’t like the main echo of Jiyan.. (the ape is just too slow for me, and it misses the target enemies “most of the time”) 44111 allows me to use whatever echo to main, granted I’m missing 5 more rolls on Substats but I’m happy with the echo that I chose.
@monkeyl-
@monkeyl- 26 күн бұрын
You do know the ape boosts heavy attack damage which is essentially what Jiyan relies on right, plus you can use your echo and switch out to a different character while the animation for the ape is doing it's thing
@elixir_jx
@elixir_jx 26 күн бұрын
⁠@@monkeyl-everybody knows the ape does heavy attack damage, he also boost your aero damage. He is just “not my preference”
@nimmero
@nimmero 26 күн бұрын
I'm just waiting for 33311 with god rolls lol. Who needs crit main stats.
@EngineerManny
@EngineerManny 26 күн бұрын
Did both echo sets have the same sub stats during their comparison?
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
As close as posible, its literally imposible to get the exact same sub stats on them but i rolled them over 5 times to get as close as possible
@EngineerManny
@EngineerManny 26 күн бұрын
@@SkullCJay for future vids I guess you could explore having no sub stats but +20 or +25 echoes to remove any differentiating factors in the data. Overall great video, you’ve inspired me to do some theory crafting and number crunching ❤️
@michelle057
@michelle057 26 күн бұрын
Blud got 101% crit rate GYATT
@Serenity_1095
@Serenity_1095 26 күн бұрын
Real, skipping on 2 elemental 3 costs is like missing out on another layer of damage multiplier aside from the crit damage
@shadowwalker4633
@shadowwalker4633 26 күн бұрын
The second 4 can be a crit dmg and 1 another atk so its kinda close the difference aint bigg enough to care just get either that has better sub stats
@Serenity_1095
@Serenity_1095 26 күн бұрын
@@shadowwalker4633 we're talking abt min-max purposes, youd want every layer of damage multiplier to be present and optimized. If yall dont mind the difference, then yeah no one's stopping anyone from using their builds regardless
@Reinsus
@Reinsus 26 күн бұрын
44111 doesn't complete a set (although Electro is able to currently), which us damage % loss and then another 30% damage loss for the 3 cost.
@aldiaditya3038
@aldiaditya3038 26 күн бұрын
should run on thundering mephis or other places with electro dmg reduction..
@Raven3557
@Raven3557 26 күн бұрын
Do a 44111 to farm for the 43311
@danielhoneybeat4170
@danielhoneybeat4170 26 күн бұрын
Ill stick w 44111 since i never get any 3 cost element for my 2nd dps, ill start farming them when im union 40
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
seems fair
@PArtemisH
@PArtemisH 26 күн бұрын
This was great. Thanks for all your hard work. Next question. Which is better: a 43311 where one of the 3s is elemental, but not on set, or a 3 that is on set, receives the 5 piece bonus, but is e.g. atk%?
@ceasardantair
@ceasardantair 26 күн бұрын
5 pcs set is always better
@Rafael_Alvess
@Rafael_Alvess 26 күн бұрын
4 4 111 is so mutch easy to build, looking for the right status on 3 costs is a pain.
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
agreed
@azura1337
@azura1337 26 күн бұрын
Am I crazy if I don't care about 8-10% damage lost for 44111 vs. 43311? This is even from a META standpoint less relevant than good sub stat on the 4-1 vs. 3-3. Sure, for MIN/MAX a valid increase to work on, but IMHO just at the very end if I have all other options min/maxed (talents/etc.)
@Jerry-nx3jy
@Jerry-nx3jy 25 күн бұрын
It is still a mystery for me for gachasmack to ignore the elemental bonus damage when it comes to damage multipliers knowing him came from genshin. The guy is just either playing too many games or lazy farming for 3* echoes.
@DaysbeforeJoshy
@DaysbeforeJoshy 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
Any time!
@lymax1111
@lymax1111 26 күн бұрын
we cooked that on stream
@anatoliyzhestov3915
@anatoliyzhestov3915 26 күн бұрын
44111 used for increase crit rate. if you so lucky to have 100+ crit rate in 43311 - so good to be you.
@Eskimo0s
@Eskimo0s 26 күн бұрын
44111 is easy to grind for. I literally spent 3 days trying to get electro/atk flautist and i swear im turning autist. Currently on day 5 and havent gotten it yet. Day 4 was rest day for my mental
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
I agree my friend those stupid birds dont drop electro i hate them 😢
@elmuhtadiihab5702
@elmuhtadiihab5702 21 күн бұрын
the thing is with the cr weapon you dont have to get cr on 43311 but when you like a cd weapon 44111 is good because you can get alot of cr and you a lot of cd in my opinion 44111 is better for calcharo if you use him with jiyan weapon because the weapon 12% dmg bunos an cd soo with 44111 your crite ratio is going to be insane and when you a lot of cd you want alot of cr like with me i use 44111 on my calcharo because i am using jiyan weapon and i have 90% cr and 262% cd with makes 44111 very good like it becomes very good that farming for 43311 is not worth it
@arcangel6384
@arcangel6384 26 күн бұрын
i agree, long term like very end game 43311 will be better... but for those of us like me who have the worst rng the 44111 will at least be enough to carry us to the point where resources are not as scarce as they are now. Great video your builds are insane!
@SeminarChauffeur
@SeminarChauffeur 26 күн бұрын
Me with 4431 on Rover: "This is fine!" 🙃
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 25 күн бұрын
lol i like this comment
@pixbud7465
@pixbud7465 26 күн бұрын
That 100 crit rate.. Thinking im Gonna quit now😢
@defenderthebase199v5
@defenderthebase199v5 26 күн бұрын
Nice food buff bro
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
thank you, i always got it on for test as it allows to show peak damage in hologram bosses, my regular cr is about 80
@adrianramos11
@adrianramos11 26 күн бұрын
44111 is definitely a lot easier to build in early game while still offering good damage. 43311 is very hard to make cause it's very rng. I've been trying to build my encore killing every single fusion set 3 cost mob everyday for the past week and still not a single fusion damage echo. so 44111 is actually a really good idea till we get lucky with echos later on.
@psy4durezo
@psy4durezo 26 күн бұрын
People like myself go for 44111 because i can t get decent 3 costs echos with right element and right set, that s the ONLY reason. The test is useless since you compare with 100% crit chance in both cases where the only reason people go 44111 is to reach higher crit and crit damage because unlucky with 3 costs echos...
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
I tested vs hologram bosses using the most realistic scenario which was using a buffing food, the crit buff is small regarless u get a 20/30 tops 35 increase in crit stats tats which is not worth it to lose that much elemntal damage, what you saw as useless is actually the benefits of using the 44111
@renzguitche3736
@renzguitche3736 26 күн бұрын
Yeaaa 44111 in the early game because farming for 3 cost echoes with the right main stats and substats is hard 😭
@SaitouAmiri
@SaitouAmiri 26 күн бұрын
Personally I think 43311 is the best because the chunk of boost it gives to the DPS itself. Prob the only time you will get 44111 is if Echo RNG sucks and you want to make your units functional ASAP.
@icedrone24
@icedrone24 26 күн бұрын
in term of farming echoes 44111 was the easier to farm then 43311
@keronmollick8053
@keronmollick8053 26 күн бұрын
I think im going to try 44111 because i dont have any cr weapon
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
that works perfectly
@sirkamalot
@sirkamalot 26 күн бұрын
multiplicative dmg is always better than additive
@trinking3711
@trinking3711 26 күн бұрын
Pretty sure you can go 44111 on your healer since it scales based off attack but overall yeah 43311 is best for dps
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
if u go 44111 on your healer u miss out on the huge energy regen 3 cost echos which is a MASSIVE boost to energy regen
@NotAHoyoSlave
@NotAHoyoSlave 26 күн бұрын
U need ER mainstat on 3cost
@Drowse-cz4rz
@Drowse-cz4rz 26 күн бұрын
I'm using the 44111 because they have better stats don't have the elemental damage in the 3 cost ecos
@DRNXD
@DRNXD 26 күн бұрын
Is this a response to Gachasmack saying 44111 is better????
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
naw i was already cooking this up since yesterday on stream u can check the video vod here on youtube, but i did get inspiration from his thumbnail
@ruiwatanabe9823
@ruiwatanabe9823 26 күн бұрын
Been rocking 4 3 3 1 1 but honestly, its such a pain getting the good 3 cost echoes so 4 4 1 1 1 is great for when those 3 cost pieces are yet to be built up. Keep up the hardwork with these vids skull
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
i agree those 3 cost echoes are horrible to try and get, and thank you for the support on the videos
@juvydelacruz2780
@juvydelacruz2780 26 күн бұрын
what does mean , Electro damage bonus itself or only damage for elctro echo or enemies ?
@joshanderson4658
@joshanderson4658 26 күн бұрын
It means you get extra % damage on the element for that char so like calcharo adding that electro bonus will increase his electro damage. Damage for enemies
@juvydelacruz2780
@juvydelacruz2780 26 күн бұрын
@@joshanderson4658 so for only ecletro type not applicable for other element is does u mean ? if yes , thank youuuu
@joshanderson4658
@joshanderson4658 26 күн бұрын
@@juvydelacruz2780 yee match that stat bonus with the character element. There's also a set bonus too . Like violet heron can drop a electro bonus stat plus electro set. It's that little element icon on the bottom left of the echo. Just example: violet echo might drop fusion element plus fusion DMG bonus stat. That's where the fun begins 😭 grinding for echos to get the right stat and set.
@SeyBarca99
@SeyBarca99 26 күн бұрын
plus with 44111 you get more Atk cause you can use 2 Atk stats weapon that said 43311 is still better.
@ZainoxProductions
@ZainoxProductions 26 күн бұрын
that crit rate is crazy!
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
lol
@PythonDelta
@PythonDelta 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video man. Got worried cuz some vids float around sayin 44111 might be optimal after i hit some hot 3s
@SkullCJay
@SkullCJay 26 күн бұрын
yeah i had people dming me videos about it as i was editing this one so i had to drop it quick lol, people were all worried
@PythonDelta
@PythonDelta 26 күн бұрын
@@SkullCJay liked and subbed, ty for the valuable content
@Hazunaki666
@Hazunaki666 26 күн бұрын
Meanwhile I'm trolling with 2 sets of 3-3-3-3
@Leontorres13
@Leontorres13 23 күн бұрын
Sure, good luck getting those crit substats on 43311
@xaetc
@xaetc 26 күн бұрын
man how u get a electro damage boost on the flautist i been searching forever
@malehumanguypersona373
@malehumanguypersona373 26 күн бұрын
Righttt?? I already cleared all the flautists on my world and my friend's. Never got one with electro dmg.
@monkeyl-
@monkeyl- 26 күн бұрын
​​@@malehumanguypersona373 took me 3 whole days of clearing EVERY single moonlight set elite monster just to get a 3 star moonlight echo with energy regen as a main stat 💀
@brulckgui
@brulckgui 26 күн бұрын
waiting another aero and fusion set pokemons
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