Why 50mm is better than 35mm

[@paulhancock]

50mm gives "better quality photos" than 35mm? I don't even know where to begin...

[@MehrabAbasi-n1r]

Same💀🤦‍♂️

[@paulnortiga1330]

But 35mm is better in landscape and Street photography

[@danypromax]

I used sony zv e10 for casual user. Which one do you prefer TT artisan 56mm f1.8 or 35mm f1.8?

[@pablogacitua]

Can’t believe what I heard…… “quality”??

[@Arfmuhamad]

​@@danypromaxtake sigma 30mm or sony e 35mm f1.8. Sigma more sharp than sony buy sony give u optical stabilisation (best for handheld video)

[@JSPSvW]

EM EM, boy u crazy

[@jasonbalenweddingfilm3749]

he loves chocolates and white rappers

[@LtDeadeye]

People who like 35mm like the distortion. For them, it’s a feature, not a bug. They typically choose this focal length for emphasizing the environment a bit more than the subject. That way, it’s easier to convey a story. If one frozen moment in time is going to carry the weight of telling a story, that image needs all the help it can get. With a 35mm image we can say, “this is me in Paris”, for example, a bit easier than we could with a 50mm lens. That said, my 50mm is my favorite lens in my collection. I don’t own a 35mm lens but I hope to!

[@joansmith7649]

How can people like distortion coming from a 35mm lens when there is no perspective distortion created by a 35mm lens, or any other lens focal length at any distance? This is a persistent myth that thousands of photographers subscribe to. So take everything you ever learned about focal length and "lens distortion", and put it straight in the garbage can. The apparent perspective and proportions of one's subject is strictly influenced by the subject-lens DISTANCE. The focal length of a given lens is simply its magnification factor and has absolutely no role in optically shaping the subject beyond making the subject appear bigger or smaller in the viewfinder. That's it. And when I say there's no perspective distortion caused by the lens, I really mean it. Shove your face into your subjects face and take a good look at their face from 9 inches away. Guess what, you are not going to see their ears. Their nose will definitely appear rather larger and prominent from 9 inches away. This is reality. And when you take a short wide angle lens and you shove it into someone's face, guess what? The lens will be provide an undistorted view of the subject at that very close distance that is the same as you observed in real life with your own eyes. Now you may not think the view and perspective of the subject is particularly flattering at those extremely close subject-lens or subject-eyeball distances, but the view at those extremely close distances is NOT "distorted" at all. Instead, the proper term to use would be different, and some of the various views of the subject at various distances will be different, and you may think the subject looks hideous at some of these different distances and corresponding perspectives, but there absolutely not any distortion going on. ZERO. Once your mind has been reprogramed to accept the fact that lens focal lengths are completely irrelevant to the shaping of the subject, you will appreciate the fact that you have in your power the ability to change how the subject appears in their portrait by varying the subject-lens distance. And the really fun part is that this perspective of the subject and the subject's appearance and proportions will not be affected by how large or small the subject is magnified by the focal length of the lens. So what is the implication of this fact in the age of high resolution sensors? Well, you would like to get a 35mm lens, but you have the 50 right now. So here's what you do. Sell the 50mm lens, and get the best 35mm lens you can afford. Then when you take portraits with your 35mm lens, select the subject-lens DISTANCE that most flatters the subject. For portraits of most women this will be a distance of 5' to 8'. Now when you look in the camera viewfinder with your 35mm lens on your high resolution full-frame camera, you will think I am nuts, because if you want a head-and-shoulder portrait, the subject's head and shoulders will appear tiny and too loose in the viewfinder. Your natural inclination will be to move in closer to the subject to fill the frame. Use self control and do not give into this urge. Never adjust the subject-lens distance to fill the frame or to accommodate the focal length on the camera. Never ever do this. If you are pleased with the proportions of the subject, and you are happy with how her nose and ears look, and you are happy with how her breasts and hips and torso and the shape of her face look, do not screw all this up by adjusting the shooting distance. Instead, if you only have the 35mm lens and no longer lens available (eg. 50 or 70), pose the model and take the picture. When you get home to your computer and open up your images you will note that the subject appears gorgeous and perfectly proportioned even though you captured the image with a 35mm lens, and even though the subject appeared rather small in the camera's viewfinder. And you will also notice that the subject appears perfectly proportioned as a head-and-shoulder framing and also as a 1/2 length framing, and perhaps even as a 3/4 length framing (if the subject-lens distance was 7'). No matter which view of the subject you select, the subject looks perfectly proportioned because the image was captured at the optimal DISTANCE. The only difference will be is that the more you crop into the image and make the framing tighter, the lower the resolution of the final image will become. But do you need to worry about this with portraits? Absolutely not!! As long as the final cropped image has a resolution exceeding 8MP, there will be sufficient resolution to view the image on a 4k monitor or TV, to use the image for all social media and internet applications, and to print portrait images that are 4 feet by 6 feet. So are you at all limited by your tiny little 8MP image that is easier to store, faster to send and save, and easier to share? There will be photographers here who will argue this point and who will insist that anything smaller than 24MP for a final image resolution is rubbish. However, the same individuals who are making this claim are the same ones who believe there is perspective distortion caused by lenses and that women want to see every single possible flaw in their face, their hair, their make-up and the tiny pieces of lint on their clothing. Portrait clients do NOT want to see their flaws, they do not want to feel as though they are ugly. So while these naysayers are complaining and producing ugly portraits, you are quietly adding a tiny bit of grain over the surface of your tiny 8MP image, and sculpting the model's contours in Photoshop, and your female portrait subject will think you made her look like a goddess with your one camera, your one lens, and your tiny 8MP image that was captured at the absolute perfect subject-lens DISTANCE. And when she decides that your work is fantastic and she would like a 1/2 length view of the same pose, guess what? You already have it because the image was captured loose to accommodate framing in post production!

[@LtDeadeye]

@@joansmith7649 What you say is true but I think what people do is keep the distance a constant. In some cases it can’t be helped. And in some cases people want to print giant and peep the details from inches away.

[@joansmith7649]

Anyone who is not using the subject-lens distance to flatter their subject is not a portrait photographer, as every body and face is unique. Those who print giant and who want to close pan their images with a magnifying glass are architectural or landscape photographers, or those who create military intelligence images for the CIA, etc. If a portrait photographer is close panning their images, they are a complete idiot and may as well sell all their gear.@@LtDeadeye

[@Oleg_K.]

​@@joansmith7649Could you speak more on the topic of the ideal lens-subject distance for different focal lengths and prioritizing proportions looking right above filling the entire frame?

[@joansmith7649]

Sure. It would seem that in the interest of selling cameras, lenses, and other gear, the manufacturers have placed a tremendous emphasis on the gear, and have wanted to focus more on pushing the notion that if one buys a certain camera and a certain lens that they will become photographers and will be shooting wonderful pictures. This entire premise is false, and is simply driven by profits and the the knowledge that most people are gullible, hopeful, ignorant, and lack artistic talent. Camera companies know all this, and that's why they push their gear on everyone. The simple fact of the matter is that one's ability to shoot gorgeous pictures is about as likely as my handing someone a few paint brushes and expecting them to create masterpieces like Renoir. Now of course this is a well guarded secret by gear companies, because clearly they would not be selling much gear if people fully understood how difficult it is to shoot photographs having any real merit. I am prefacing my discussion with this, because it is profoundly important for one to realize that photography really is an artform and that the focus must be on understanding what constitutes the proportions and pleasing proportions in the first place, just as if one were a portrait painter, because in a very real sense, photography is painting with light and not a brush, and requires as much talent and artistic talent as painting with paint. Again, no one wants to spell this out, because that would dramatically discourage the sale of camera gear. Everyone’s face and body has slightly different proportions. Therefore, if one takes a photo with a subject-camera distance of 6-1/2 away, the resulting image may look great, but this same distance may not be the ideal distance for another subject. The photographer-artist must be able to see with artistic eyes and must determine what features and proportions will look the most flattering. These proportions can certainly be manipulated by the camera-subject distance, but the question is what should they be, just like all the famous painters have had to ask themselves. In addition, you will develop your own creative style and you will tend to favor certain proportions, while another creative photographer will favor other proportions. However, none of this is random. A real photographer creates, and does not simply press the shutter and take a snapshot. 99% of all photographers, including those providing information in their videos on KZbin are actually snapshooters who have learned to develop the skill of proper exposure with the assistance of their computerized cameras. But these photographers are not artists, and that’s why you hear them taling about lenses and gear all the time, instead of hearing them talk about the artistic aspects of photography. Again, only a very small proportion of all painters can paint like Davinci, and so it is true for photography. When I carefully look at my subject from every angle, I am evaluating them from an artistic perspective, and not from a snapshooter’s perspective. This evaluation may take a while and can also be manipulated through creative control of lighting, in addition to subject-lens distance. The image capture itself takes very little time. All the real time goes into the prep for the shoot - the planning and preparation, the location, the background, the lighting, the props, the clothing, custom tailoring of the clothing, the hair and make-up, the accessories, the props, the various poses and viewing angles, and subject-lens distance calculations. All of this is done before I take a single photo. Now of course, Nikon and Canon do not want to reveal all the work involved in real photography, because then they would sell only 50 cameras a year. And that’s why almost all photography displayed out in the world falls under the category of “snapshot”, including the work of most professional “photograhers”. In other words, from an artistic standpoint, most of the photography you see is crap, like a 3-year-old fingerpainting with their pureed peas. When portrait shooting with today’s modern high resolution camera sensors, , do not concern yourself with resolution. Instead, concern yourself with the subject-lens distance that will most flatter your subject, and then select an appropriate lens to best fill the frame. Final tweaks to the framing and cropping can be, and should be, done in post production, so do not worry about this now. Instead, you already have thousands of other decisions to make that are far more important to the artistic quality of a portrait. If I were teaching portrait photography in school, it would be a four year program, and no student would be touching a camera until their 4th year. The first three years would strictly be focused on the artistic aspects of portrait photography, anatomy, color science, etc. As a very simple rule of thumb, do not photograph anyone from a distance closer than 5’ away. Most people look most flattering at distances between 6’ and 9’, and this applies to head-and-shoulder shots and all the way to full length shots. Please do not EVER take a photograph of anyone at a subject-lens distance greater than 12’ away, or closer than 5’ unless you want to make them appear unattractive on purpose. If you have a 200mm lens that you use for portraits, for my own personal sake please toss it in the nearest rubbish bin asap. The use of a 200mm lens for portraits indicates that you have absolutely no sense of what the heck you are doing whatsoever and you are making people look as flat as a pancake. Thank you.@@Oleg_K.

[@youarewrongdevil1296]

It's just personal preference. I love the 85mm for portraits!

[@xpreshun]

35mm for portraiture featuring the environment. 50mm for portraiture with less environment.

[@nirav6983]

35mm gang assemble

[@lpolakoff]

Instantly lost credibility with me saying “MM”…

[@themondoshow]

how? that didn't change nothing he was talking about it. you have no hair and look like youre alergic to alot of stuff

[@ericredelman2568]

@@themondoshowso what? you have a thing for CM Punk and guys in tights, how is it relevant in this setting?

[@themondoshow]

SHOW YOUR FACE@@ericredelman2568

[@MastaSplinta]

@@ericredelman2568😂😂😂😂

[@Kunal0915]

For the reasons given, the 85 is better than the 50.

[@MARKANTHONYGUZ]

not really. its not a versatile as the 50mm. also the 50mm gives more of a natural composition

[@crescentmoon256]

human eye is like 48mm, so 50mm is better if you want to capture what u see

[@SourDonut99]

85mm has that 85mm look. There isn't much background and you can get a great shot even in a parking lot. A 50mm shot is a good middle ground where you got a good balance between background and subject. It really depends on what you want. You might even want 35mm for more background but I won't recommend 24mm, that's just too wide for portraits. 35mm is a bit wide, generally you can only do full body or half body shots. Not head shots.

[@srr1887]

​@@crescentmoon256so for apsc better go 35?

[@crescentmoon256]

@@srr1887 if you want to have pictures with objects the size of what you are looking with your eye then yes apsc has 1.5 times crop factor so 35mm on apsc = 35x1.5 = 52.5 on full frame no crop factor so 35mm = 35mm so you need 50mm to have close to natural focal length of human eye

[@v4sTislow]

35mm for groups shots and portraits with scenery shots, 50mm for couples and medium shots, 85mm for headshots

[@Fortytwoflat]

This comment ❤

[@JesusMariscal]

If you get closer to the model you can have the same result with 35. In open spaces it is good to use 50 but never try that in smaller spaces. The 50 works well for faces because of the aperture but not for taking a full body photo of a person

[@moepreme]

Fatcs bro

[@BlurrVFX]

Also better distortion closer to the subject not just the bokeh

[@MarcoGarcia-mt9zw]

Depends on what you shoot and what you are trying to produce

[@shadowrevival]

Next video idea! Why 35mm is better than 50mm 😍

[@hangingwithleetv]

35 EM EM 4 Life 😂

[@Xcx284]

True. 50 does look abit better for portrait than 35. 35 will be more ideal for wider shots

[@ceotmonrot8127]

please use word "milimeter" not "mm".

[@stakamaka]

Em Em!

[@sirwillemgaming9686]

Em Em(2) Mee Lee Mee Ter(4)

[@christiansmith2005]

thats why you have you just say "mil" for example "fifty mil lens"

[@c_hans8391]

Em Em😂

[@HazyRedCup]

Personally I don’t like hard blurry backgrounds imo

[@mchammer5592]

Whew, I’ll throw away all my wide lenses.

[@mattricci2981]

35 isn’t wide

[@Racing_Fox]

@@mattricci2981not even close lol

[@braxtonwoullard1188]

As a DP the 35mm kinda forces me to get my composition and lighting right. 50mm is good also but sometimes it could be a crutch due to the compression.

[@Livingandcooking]

Depends on use

[@BryanMedinaAnother]

dont say EM EM, you need to say "Nifty Fifty"

[@MasoodJamal]

I have a Sony ZV-E10 camera with Sony 11mm f.8 lens for landscape videography I need a lens with blurry effect for real estate hosting video please suggest which budget lens should I buy like Viltrox 35mm or 50mm, Sigma 30mm or tamron 17-70mm zoom lens ?

[@yeanisch]

The 35 feels more intimate than the 50. It forces you to get closer to your model, to get into their comfort zone. That's why I don't like always like 35mm for street, but love it for portraits. The distortion is not bad in most cases. It just becomes a problem when you're too close or if your model is doing a dynamic pose with an arm stretched towards the camera or something similar.

[@PlaybyPause]

Agree! There's no right and wrong answer ☺️love both focal length!

[@sirsober1718]

but IF im using APSC sensor, 35mm is almost the same as 50mm, right? should I get a 50mm lense or 35mm will do? what is the difference?

[@hellwassocold8907]

It depends on what you are shooting. For Portraiture, 50 mm would be ideal but for a daily use lens, 35 mm would be a better go to. I myself is using 35mm almost 90 percent of the time especially when traveling. 50 mm might not be a good fit for tight spaces

[@youarewrongdevil1296]

If you ask this question, you should dig a lot deeper into sensor sizes and crop factor. APS-C x 1.5 = FF 24mm APS-C ~ 35mm FF 35mm APS-C ~ 50mm FF 56mm APS-C ~ 85mm FF

[@user-sl309jd90]

If you use the same lenses for aps-c then would you go for 35mm since it will be equivalent to about 50mm?

[@PlaybyPause]

Yes for the crop factor But No, for the compression and bokeh because you will not getting the same depth of field compared to a full frame 50mm 😬

[@luisaguiar857]

@@PlaybyPause The bokeh depends of the aperture of the 35mm ... And for me it's alot better to use it in small spaces

[@CaptuRadiance]

40mm is the way to go

[@PlaybyPause]

Love this focal length too

[@painting]

Depends if you're on full frame or aps-c

[@F30_Hellion]

Why? I recently bought my first camera (very new to this) and it's a full frame. I have a 50mm for it but want to change for a 35mm. Mainly take photos of cars. Any advice? Thanks

[@bryanbuff]

@@F30_HellionBecause a 35mm on a crop sensor is the equivalent of 53-56mm on full frame (depending on the exact crop factor).

[@Oleg_K.]

It doesn't "depend". When we compare focal lengths, it's always in full frame terms. If you're on a crop sensor, it's your prerogative to do the math and figure out which relative focal length you need for the full frame equivalent you want.

[@jasondaniel9438]

R u talking in full frame or Apc senser

[@luisaguiar857]

Good Question. In Apsc the 35mm is 52mm in 1.5 crop and is top notch for portraits

[@pratheesh829]

I use 50mm only for close up shots in wedding

[@gemamoch1]

Mirrorless or full frame?

[@PlaybyPause]

Full frame 😬

[@reflexfilms]

This video was presented by an ai robot with all the charm of a remote control.

[@cyrusrahimi2815]

There has never been a time i would rather have a 50mm over a 35mm. In enclosed spaces i can always get closer with a 35 but with a 50mm i can only back up so much. Honestly kind of a useless focal length all together

[@imnikshay]

I guess 35mm is best for Aps c then ?? crop sensor ??

[@850Tech]

Why in these videos no one mentioned what sensors are they talking about. I mesn someone using a Crop sensor not knowing any crop factor might change his 35mm and buy a 50mm.

[@PlaybyPause]

In sorry about that but this video focuses in full frame 😬

[@elram2649]

I want both! 😊

[@studio_joy_colours]

Speak slowly If u speak fast, we can’t understand what u speaking. So can’t get any use of this video. So pls speak slowly to more useful for viewers. This is Joy Freelance photographer from Srilanka

[@jbaxter007]

My 55 mm micro nikkor manual focus f 2.8 is welded to my camera, ive been shooting for more than 25 years, say no more

[@Drahcir14]

Nice video but please don't say "em em"... it's "fifty millimetre"

[@PlaybyPause]

Why?😁

[@Pymmog]

Five Ce Em 😂

[@hanfei6871]

Different regions in the world says it different, in America we say FIFTY MIL, and in Singapore they say FIFTY EMEM, few say the full FIFTY MILL LEE MEE TER in English it’s just a mouthful

[@MrQwertypoiuyty]

Hahaha, what a funny video. Plus it's subjective. I prefer the wider 35 with a little bit of artistic distortion for close up shots. But of course, nifty fifty is most ideal for most types of photographers, and I am not one of them.

[@letterjpg]

Thanks for sharing

[@CaliFamous]

He’s not wrong

[@pablogacitua]

Since when having more bokeh makes a lens “better”??

[@PlaybyPause]

Yes and no depending on what you are trying to achieve 😬

[@peeyushgautam77]

What about the same lenses on an apsc body

[@mackysobrevega1780]

28mm gang

[@PlaybyPause]

O.o i should try next time😉

[@VishnuAttiappan]

C'mon guys, doesn't matter em em or mil or millimetre, it's all the same. Don't nitpick everything. Even I myself been saying em em. Probably it's just the way we Asians say it. Relax. Good video brother 👍

[@nickeh320]

is 50mm still good for aspc like the r10

[@paulbunyun3663]

figure in crop factor 50 em is equql to 80em

[@MusabTahaTarik]

are you talking for apsc cropped bodies or for full frames?

[@paulbunyun3663]

full frame, crop is for rookies

[@youarewrongdevil1296]

​@@paulbunyun3663you couldn't be more wrong with that statement.

[@paulbunyun3663]

90%of people using dslr cameras don't even know the crop factor of a nifty fifty@@youarewrongdevil1296

[@mcgoo721]

I mean it's 15 higher. Clear winner.

[@dukecha]

I’m going to be the first comment on this video to say that I prefer 50 mm more than the 35 mm. The comments have to chill

[@paxicht]

you madman!

[@Ryomichi]

50mm is better that 35mm because 35mm is better than 50mm

[@Slayblan]

Bro I just cancelled my rf 50mm f1.8 for the 35mm lol

[@PlaybyPause]

🤣 no worry I’m sure you will get a 50mm in future There’s no ending for camera gears 🤣

[@Slayblan]

@@PlaybyPausemy bank account says otherwise lmao

[@PoonamSingh-kn9pg]

Which one is better for cinematic videos?????

[@yeanisch]

35

[@yeanisch]

Or was that a rhetorical question?

[@StapediusReflex]

Your next video should be comparing 50 Skittles to 35 Skittles.

[@LengArtz]

stop compare focal lens.. all lens have its on advantages

[@SIBIDIBIDl]

What did he say?

[@KNAPPAID]

My 30mm is a 45 equivalent , best of both world

[@septianiranto5690]

what the matter guys with the EM EM?

[@sergeytsygankov]

Why screwdriver is better than a hammer

[@PlaybyPause]

Why we use one another 😬

[@JJ_Photo]

And now " Why 28mm is better than 50mm"....SoMe when it is worse! So many opinions - so many youtubers.... We are wasting our time with people's insignificant opinions.

[@PlaybyPause]

😆 Chill! There's no right or wrong answer when it comes to focal length. We'd love to share our thoughts, and we'd love to hear yours too! 😉

[@taiwoopawoye6121]

It depends on what you shooting ..

[@oscarjeong9438]

Can't explain why many videographers uses 35mm as default...and this example is also a video....lol

[@persona3244]

Not true, whatever you do with 50 you do with 35 .

[@King_von__0]

What about 85

[@EmmanCollective]

just buy BOTH if you hate zoom lens haha

[@dwanelkemprai4983]

35mm any day

[@CosmoVlog]

Nah g u lost this case, for that reason I am out. 85mm for the win

[@yeet_cs3394]

but i use crop sensor :(

[@luismoracmyk]

Is that English? 😅

[@3xtraspicy]

EM EM hahaha

[@yashmaharjan6022]

i have 35mm and don't have budget for 50mm bye bye

[@SperS-222]

I don’t like 50 mm

[@VinsZsx]

ememem ?

[@SperS-222]

mm 😂😂😂😂

[@PlaybyPause]

😂😂

[@-MrEVIL-]

Bruh.

[@mjgayo]

What a joke

[@Jvwrd]

Nah. Put the Sony in aps-c mode and you have 35mm now working as a 50mm

[@beewh001]

50mm the most useless focal length.

[@joansmith7649]

Are you being sarcastic? For 3/4 length portraits (which includes most boudoir), a 50mm will mop the floor with any longer lens. I have done photo shootouts with guys having 105, 135, and 200mm lenses, and I have never lost a 3/4 length portrait shootout when using a 50mm lens. It optically impossible.

[@beewh001]

@@joansmith7649 nope.. I am not. It is the most boring lens ever. 35mm better and 85mm way better.

[@joansmith7649]

Why? The 50mm lens can create different perspectives at different shooting distances just like the other two lenses. How is a lens "boring"???@@beewh001

[@PlaybyPause]

I guess there’s no a right and wrong answer It’s just a creative decision 😬

[@joansmith7649]

While it is a creative decision, most women do not want to appear wider (aka fatter) than they are in photos. Longer lenses generally make people appear wider, heavier, broader, and shorter, than the shorter focal length lenses. So if you have clients who would like to appear wider and shorter, then by all means use longer lenses. The 50mm lens is a fabulous for all portraits except for frame filling head shots. The 35mm lens is fabulous for 3/4 length and environmental portraits. However, if you stand back a bit with the 35mm lens, you will be able to acheive the same framing as the 50mm lens if you crop in post. So, the 35mm offers more flexbility, especially if used on a camera with a high resolution sensor. The only time I use longer lenses is when I am attempting to make a super skinny supermodel appear a bit healthier.@@PlaybyPause

[@I0nut09]

50 it is a shit lenss

[@virusheat]

Anyone telling you Xmm is better than Ymm doesn't know photography.