Why a soccer player got a red card on purpose to help his team

[@aok2075]

Using the bank robbery analogy, imagine robbing the bank, then immediately taking off your mask and tell the teller "I'd like to deposit $200,000 please."

[@williambaumert7726]

Lol 😆

[@Thumper17]

Gray Cowl from the Elder Scrolls style.

[@letsmakeit110]

"yeah alright. not my problem"

[@ptkush3416]

I was visualizing it as a bank robber doing a 5 minute long, Fortnite-inspired celebratory dance, with the bag of cash, outside the bank's entrance, as the police arrive. But, I concede, the scene that you imagined is far funnier.

[@MrRen1988]

That only works If bank robbery was legal until YOU rob the bank...

[@Bodhi594]

A player in LaLiga recently got hurt during a game so before leaving the field He took his shirt off triggering a yellow card knowing He would be suspended for the next game due to too many yellow cards in the season, but He's hurt and wouldn't be playing anyway. Aspas is his name and He plays for Celta Vigo. I don't know how it all worked out though. Edit: Sounds like it worked perfectly.

[@carlosalaniz9665]

Pretty much that way lol

[@mike04574]

used to play for liverpool

[@eddixon2015]

Probably better than if he took a corner kick

[@edwinlam4679]

I thought Aspas was going to be the subject of this video

[@sherqyanstromain9580]

Romas captain did it recently

[@endcensorship874]

Actually, the best way to determine a "champion" is to have the teams play a season worth of games, take about a month off, then match up different teams in games based around a specific holiday. Then have a cabal of writers determine who the REAL champion is. Foolproof. What could go wrong?

[@ericbosken3114]

Love the nod to the pre-BCS college (American) football arrangement.

[@catman-du8927]

Now they just choose randomly what teams are eligible to win a championship. The only requirement is that at least 1 SEC team must be in, preferably 2.

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

What an interesting idea, let's give it the ol' College Try

[@kevinreilly51]

You forgot the bit when some cabals chose their champions before those games around a specific holiday and others did it after

[@natelloyd4796]

College football is a form of psychological torture, to which I willingly submit myself year after year.

[@PassivesAbseits]

For a bit more of context: In Soccer, you get a Yellow Card for certain fouls or unsportsmanlike conduct. Basically a flagrant one in the NBA. Kicking the ball away after the whistle is blown, is considered unsportsmanlike. But you get a Red Card, aka an instant send off and potentially a multi game suspension, for really brutal, injury risking fouls or denying a clear chance to score. But when you get a 2nd yellow card in the same game, you get send off, with an automatic 1 game suspension, but the first fellow card gets canceled. That's why Otze did this really minor, unsportsmanlike conduct, instead of just racking up the aggressiveness and injuring someone. Had he done that, he still would have had that Yellow Card on the books and got suspended for the league games. Intentionally collecting Yellow Cards is actually quite common, so you can sit out your suspension in a meaningless game. Or a game against Bayern Munich, which you expect to lose anyhow... I even did it once in my lower league career, because I had the wedding of my best friend the next weekend and was sitting on 4 Yellow Cards... perfect timing.

[@ak47groupAKM]

Who did you play with?

[@lucianog5430]

Every week some player around the world is doing this trick. Here in Argentina a player got the 5th Yellow Card in order to go to the show of their favorite rock band

[@oldgranite6467]

That is amazing. I hope the happy couple appreciated your well thought out rule breaking lol

[@BarcaPatrick9]

Not a flagrant 1...more like Yellow Card: Technical Red Card: Double tech/ejection

[@KEWLSTADIUMS]

The 2nd yellow was introduced for the 1991-92 season, a few months after the Ordenewitz incident. So Cologne could not be sure that the offence would automatically mean a one-match suspension. But they must have speculated on that.

[@inaki6404]

One fun episode where this rule was enforced was in UCL 2019 when Sergio Ramos, at the time at Real Madrid, got himself booked in the first leg against Ajax while winning 1-2 so he would miss the second leg (assuming an easy win at home). At a press conference after the game he admitted to get booked on purpose, so UEFA sancitioned him with an additional 2 games suspension. Also, Real Madrid were destroyed by Ajax on the second leg and got eliminated. All while Ramos was watching from a private stand in the stadium accompanied by Amazon’s crew because he was filming a documentary about his life.

[@oldfrend]

madrid were famous for this. they also did this in 2013 when both ramos and xabi alonso got themselves yellows for time wasting while leading galatasaray 3-0. they ALSO did this a few years before that, also against ajax, same two players.

[@sicilianjoe]

That's amazing, and totally something that Ramos would do. Watching Ajax beat Madrid that year in the UCL was also amazing. It's really too bad they didn't go on to be Spurs and make it to a final. What a great story that was for them.

[@stevencooke6451]

I definitely think the league should have the capacity to inflict further punishment for violating the spirit and credibility of the rules and the league itself.

[@primetime__179]

Just to explain: in Germany we have a normal League system, where the 1st to 3rd highest leagues are considered professional and the rest amateurs, and on top the German Cup, which is a Knock-Out tournament. The idea behind the cup is that not just all the teams of the 1st and 2nd league participate, but also amateur teams from smaller german villages. This not just gives the cup an unique character, but financial support for those smaller teams and on top of that every german state or region is represented. This is why we have two tournaments here in Germany.

[@bigboss4178]

>This is why we have two tournaments here in Germany. bruh every country has a League + Cup system no?

[@morganfreeman9334]

@@bigboss4178 That's the same for most country's, it helps smaller teams financially and gives team that have a mid regular season a chance to win something meaningful. (Also Cinderella runs)

[@ScootsMcPoot]

Has a small town team ever got far?

[@ScootsMcPoot]

Im really fascinated about this now.

[@primetime__179]

@@ScootsMcPoot depends on what you consider small but yes

[@pabloenrique20]

okay so for anyone that dosent know. The rule changed. Now you have to serve your suspension on the next game of the competition you are suspended. even if its on the final game, you serve the suspension on the next season/tournament

[@GamesFromSpace]

That doesn't really fix the problem, it just gives the player less options for when to deliberately get suspended.

[@pabloenrique20]

@@GamesFromSpace it does. Like, it's no longer a choice or an option. No matter how you put it, the next game of the competition that you are suspended in, its the one you are going to have to serve your suspension. So this tactic no longer applies.

[@GamesFromSpace]

@@pabloenrique20 But you can still decide to trigger it *early* instead of risking it at a worse time.

[@nathanjm000]

Nope at least not in England. Cup suspensions apply to league games and vice versa. Both are under the FA.

[@danielpearce6469]

@@nathanjm000 the rule actually got changed in 19/20 so that red card suspensions in the FA Cup don’t apply to the Premier League, or vice versa. But given the other crazy changes to the game in the first COVID season, it flew under the radar. I wasn’t sure what the rules were until I just checked!

[@CheapAbyss]

Americans trying to understand how European sports work is one of my favourite things on KZbin. Not in a condescending, "haha can't believe they don't understand how this works" way, but because it's genuinely interesting to see other people try to make sense of something that even non-sports fans over here don't even need to think about.

[@stephenramos2824]

to be fair the amount of different competitions in so many countries is confusing compared to America where you have 1 competition

[@Valpo2004]

As an American soccer fan I think the most confusing aspect is having multiple competition at once. In England they have the EPL, FA cup, EFL cup, and the top teams play in the champions league all at the same time. All of the major American sports have their league competition followed by a playoff for the top teams in that league. On top of that the only reward for winning the regular season is home advantage in the playoffs and playing the worst playoff teams first. So you get the easiest road through the playoffs but you can be undefeated and if your star player gets hurt in the last regular season game and you lose first round of the playoffs, you get nothing.

[@k-berry8771]

The way i would've explained is: "In europe, instead of a regular season that leads to a play-off, they play two concurrent tournaments, one is just a regular season and best record earns the title, the other is just the playoffs where everyone participates"

[@nb_nic]

Sergio Ramos tried this in the Champion's League in 2019. The images of him in the stands as Real Madrid lost to Ajax are art.

[@grantreill1966]

I remember when that happened, and I know God has a sense of humor, so it all worked out for the good guys.

[@chaosu64]

For anyone wondering why we have two national competitions. We have Leagues and Cups (tournaments), historically, cups are the older competitions, most of the time being organised by football federations. Leagues appeared with the professionalization of the sports. While promotion and relegation allows any club to climb the ranks up to first division leagues over the years, Cup competition have more participants than regular leagues, allowing clubs of smaller stature to play on a bigger stage every year. To give you an idea bout how great this can be let's talk about the french national cup. Only the top two divisions (40 clubs) are professional, but over 7000 clubs take part in the national cup spanning from the Division one clubs to the lowest level and including club from overseas territories (Guyane, New Caledonia, Guadeloupe...). These games are a huge opportunity for all clubs involved with financial support and the opportunity to play on the big stage against teams like Lyon, Marseille or PSG in front of thousands of people.

[@michellejirak9945]

The US/Canada teams do this split champion as well. Playoffs for league champion and the US Open Cup that all tiers can participate in. Unfortunately, my team (MNUFC) has a habit of doing well in the runup to either and then not being able to find their collective arse with both hands when it matters.

[@alanmonteros6432]

France is a whole another beast because those guys have to play a tournament that could take place all across the world. Like there is nothing stopping a continental France team from playing matches in Reunion (Indian ocean) Tahiti (Pacific) and then French Guyana (Caribbean/South America)

[@casterus4474]

Just an explanation of the scheduling: League Games are usually played on the weekends, while national and international cup games will be played during the weekdays, like on a Wednesday. German football schedules are not as crowded as those of US sports (in my experience).

[@JorgeRamirez-qj2rl]

Probably an example so that silly Americans can understand what the rest of the world knows

[@EinTeufelskreis]

Yeah, it's not as crowded, but the seasons last longer. I mean, the NFL is about 4-6 months (depending on whether you reach the playoffs) and the Bundesliga last around 9 months for every team.

[@ImJBlu]

Most American sports aren’t also playing national and international games during the season so weekdays are free

[@civ27]

Each NFL team plays once per week, so that's the closest comparison

[@Jorge-lh6px]

@@JorgeRamirez-qj2rl Wow, you won a prize for knowing a system that people of another country are unfamiliar with. Here’s a cookie: 🍪

[@MrReese]

The way this guy describes football leagues in EU is hilarious :D. In reality, it works like this: during a season match days are once a week on the weekends, and once in a while there is a cup match in the middle of the week. That's it. This, of course, does not count international leagues like the Champions League, Europa League, Conference League, which also happen during the middle of the week. So good teams that qualified for international leagues have usually two matches per week, once in the middle (TUE/WED/THU) and once at the weekend (FR/SAT/SUN).

[@lukereed6405]

I mean, that's literally how he described it except with less frequent matches.

[@tanmaykarve9895]

@@lukereed6405 Yes, but he made it sound way more complex

[@JairamWaddell]

Similar-ish situation - David Beckham got injured in a Qualifier for England and knew he'd be missing the next match regardless, so before being subbed, he intentionally got himself booked (jumped into one of the Welsh players iirc) to trigger the suspension in a game he'd miss through injury anyway

[@gabbo3.070]

Watching Seth, whom I really really like, talk about something he has no clue about and get so many things wrong (such as the fact that a team could possibly play 5 games a week) is both hilarious and a little sad

[@tanmaykarve9895]

They could have described the format in a very simple way lol. Football Leagues and domestic Cup competitions are not that difficult to understand and explain. Plus it's them (USA) who have a complicated system in comparison. There are conferences, divisions and what not based on geography for the same league

[@aok2075]

@@tanmaykarve9895 They for sure have the more complicated system. The NFL has divisions that are named based on geography and then almost completely ignores the geography of the teams in said divisions.

[@GrownUpKid94]

Each team plays each other once at home and once on the road. A lot of teams play in national elimination tournaments. It’s that easy.

[@joseamartinez18]

Lmao! Yeah the way he explained how the league games are played along with cup games was hilarious and so wrong.

[@Nico_M.]

An idea for a video: in the 1980 final of the Copa del Rey, in Spain, Real Madrid won against their own second team, Castilla. Even more, because Real Madrid already qualified for the European Cup (the currently Champions League), Castilla competed in the Cup Winner's Cup the following year.

[@matthewrobert1810]

Having seen this guy since the Mississippi bag man doc you guys did forever ago. Nice to see he's still there!

[@jaketheauroran]

I was wondering who this was. Looks like he could be Clara's dad 😂

[@Djiehh]

Yo, the big difference between league and cup competition is that cups feature teams from different competitive levels, hypothetically every single club in Germany can enter the cup competition by participating in regional qualifiers. That's what makes it special and I think that was the original idea behind it. EDIT: Obviously, cup competitions are always much less important than league competitions.

[@raducristiandan9103]

Never forget when Jose Mourinho asked both Sergio Ramos & Xabi Alonso to get sent off in the UCL to reset their card accumulation

[@danielheymann1108]

I love this show with all my heart and coming from Germany, I think it's hilarious that you guys actually shared the "Mach et, Otze" story for a mainly American audience (I guess?), so I really don't care about all the things you got wrong regarding European Football leagues 😍

[@oenrn]

This is actually a very common thing, and you don't even need separate tournaments. Let's say a player on the pitch is one yellow card away from a match suspension, and the next match is against a weak team, whereas the match after that is against some major team. If the player gets a yellow card in the next match, he will then be suspended for the big match against the major side. So in the match before that, the player will find a way to force a yellow card (by doing something like wasting a lot of time in a throw-in) in order to get suspended against the weaker side, and thus be available for the big match later on.

[@eddixon2015]

The best way to compare European soccer to American sports is to compare it to college basketball and compare conferences to countries. You have a regular season conference champion, a conference tournament champion, and then you have a massive inter-conference/international tournament. Except all of that happens concurrently.

[@slashnagy6]

A conference tournament would yield a “conference champion.” It’s just two things.

[@bblesener]

Great to see more Steven!

[@wadedevinney9681]

I like the new guy. Lots of enthusiasm.

[@RamanN00B]

he did the entire "paid to play" series here on the channel a few years back. discusses student athletes in the ncaa, corruption, culture, etc. it truly is high quality stuff. check it out!

[@gianniskara8851]

You should do a rewind for Greece winning the 2004 Euros, maybe focusing on the winning goal in the final scored by Angelos Charisteas (not biased or anything but it still is a huge deal for greeks and a tremendous achievement for greek sports)

[@jnerdsblog]

1:15 the mistake on the subtitles there absolutely ruins what the dude actually said ("which I don't mind at all" vs subtitle's "which I don't like at all.") If you need an editor, I'm looking for a side gig! Also still weirded out that you're using a gambling site for ad revenue. Have no problem with people spending their money how they wish; have a bit of a problem with sports-related sites steering people towards this.

[@richardtherichard26]

Why wouldn’t sports sites want to cash in on a major money-making part of the sports industry? And why should anyone care that your panties are all bunched up over it?

[@jnerdsblog]

One of my favorite series on this channel, marred by one of my least favorite sponsorships.

[@GoodGarret777]

Given this channel's other content such as Fighting in the Age of Loneliness, and the clear socio-economic statements made during, this sponsorship feels out of place, to be very generous.

[@seanscott2677]

What’s the issue with gambling?

[@GoodGarret777]

@@seanscott2677 The fact it's used to wring money out of primarily neuro-divergent and poor people like water out a sponge for starters.

[@Emma-eo1tq]

I have been DREAMING of an SB video about soccer

[@georgewright3949]

A even better rule would be when Raheem Sterling scored the winner jumped into the crowd lambeau leap style to celebrate and was then given a 2nd yellow card and sent off for ungentlemanly conduct . There's lots of funny stuff you can do to get yellow cards

[@mindphaserxy]

I mean it's really a cup competition not really a "playoffs" during regular season. But that's a good analogy. In the FA Cup you can have teams from the lower tiers playing the top level of teams. It can get crazy some years.

[@Konktg]

Well Sergio Ramos did it too in the UCL during the 2018-2019 season against Ajax!

[@khaitranngoc4176]

Spoiler: it was a spectacular failure...

[@Konktg]

@@khaitranngoc4176 yeah, no kidding

[@Konktg]

@@khaitranngoc4176 it did work in 2010/11 though, when both he and Alonso did it

[@reverseflash882]

I saw the title and thought it was Luis Suarez vs Ghana lol

[@BillHFA]

During the South American World Cup qualifiers, every time the Brazilian squad is already qualified or doing very well in the standings, many players 'choose' to be suspended before the away game against Bolivia, which host their games where the altitude is around 2.26 miles high! (Suck on this, Denver...)

[@AxeMan808]

I like that you just casually used the analogy "it's like a local and a global [variable]."

[@DannyB_7]

“We are going to take your post season format and do it as an exhibition to show you how silly this is” by hosting knockout completions older than most post season formats.

[@FightingTorque411]

I thought this was going to be Luis Suarez in that World Cup quarter-final with Ghana, probably the most "worth it" red card in football?

[@dafuzzbear7711]

Wow I’ve never been this early for an SB video.

[@hydrotic]

Same

[@tomlesinski9385]

Same.

[@TheGLORY13]

Happens a bit more frequently then you might think. It's not even really a loophole. Every league has their Domestic Cup's FA cup(England) England also the caraboa cup as well,German DFB Polka/ Spain/Italy etc. The Leagues are aware that players/teams do this, but it's really more up to which comp does a team care more about. If it's a lesser team who's made a deep run or IS making a decent run when they usually don't any they don't care about the league itself but they are safe and don't absolutely need points to stay up, they'll very much do this. Now if a team definitely needs that player for the league and it's late in the season there's a chance they will just say screw it we'd rather lose you for the cup game. Realistically this is something that affects "smaller" teams in terms of pure talent (FC Koln has a TON of history and aren't really "small" and I'm not sure their abilities in the 90s) but bigger teams usually could basically field 2 different teams that have a ton of talent and compete. I think the Champions league also has an accumulation rule and some players (Ramos for Madrid) ate a yellow card to be suspended so he wouldn't miss the final next game but they ended up getting dumped out that game but ended up blowing it in that 2nd leg of the Semi Finals and he just got to watch them lose from the Boxes

[@trentonnewman9683]

Gotta love good old malicious compliance

[@rogerszmodis]

I’ve always wanted to see a baseball manager take first base back to the clubhouse after being ejected

[@justalittlebitmo]

That animation of the tennis net getting ripped down 😂😂😂🏆🙌

[@jamaalsjourney]

Yessir love ut when they upload *REAL* football

[@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498]

And also,Frank Lampard has turn be Jinxed at World cup 2010 england lost after the goal almost hit the net and never happend for Germany Soccer team.

[@frankfinkelbach3679]

Great that you did this one, because 1. FC Köln is my favourite sportsteam. As I saw the title, I immediately thought it could be Otze. Thanks a lot!

[@scottcampbell96]

Nike thought the coach’s instruction was so good, they made it their slogan, “Just do it”.

[@tjbullis1096]

The best description I've heard of for soccer is "soccer is a gentlemens game played by hooligans. Rugby is a hooligans game played by gentlemen"

[@kevind7708]

For Seth: The format is similar to all soccer leagues in the world (almost all of them are open leagues ) in exception of the MLS, A-League and the India Super League (closed leagues with a fixed team). To sums up you'd have a league, local cup tourno, sometimes the FA's local tourno, and the Intercontinental tourno. Plus, the FIFA Club World Cup.

[@valpix7007]

US soccer has an in-season knockout cup too! It's called the US Open Cup and predates the NHL, NBA, and NFL. It's back this season after two years off due to COVID.

[@NoPowerintheVerse]

I received 1 yellow card my entire soccer career. In an indoor match the other team got a penalty kick on goal and the ref placed the ball 7ish feet from the goal. He then told me (the goalie) I needed to be 10 feet away from the ball. I asked him if that meant I needed to leave the goal unattended. He simply barked, “10 feet away from the ball!” So I once again asked where I could stand. Do I leave goal entirely or could I stand inside the goal box until she kicked it and then step forward? At which point I was given a yellow card and made to leave the field. While I went to the sidelines and explained to my coach what had happened the girl he put in for me proceeded to get a yellow card after asking the same questions I did. By the time the game was over our coach had gotten a red card and the ref had a formal complaint. 😂

[@gyroscopingaroundtheworld]

The context of the league system in Europe is to able to have international competition

[@dafyddroberts97]

In the EFL, there are often games between Christmas and New Year, which players often want to avoid (to spend more time with family and friends) so it's often a fun game to keep an eye out for who's on 3 or 4 yellow cards come late December, lining themselves up for an easy Christmas break!

[@livifan45]

Similar sort of thing, but Britain has a tradition of playing football matches in Boxing Day. That's in addition to a pretty hectic schedule around Christmas and New Year. So, it's not too uncommon to see players being more prone to fouling and getting cards so they can be suspended for Boxing Day and get to properly enjoy Christmas.

[@justmaxproductions]

*curb your enthusiasm theme plays*

[@imaginaryboy2000]

The finest in German rulebook engineering

[@tommythomasson1]

In Germany we also have two separate competitions: our national league (called " erste Bundesliga"=first federal league ~ First League) and our national cup (called "DFB-Pokal"= German federal soccer cup ~ National Cup). If you want to compete in the first federal league, you will have to qualify by rising up from the lower leagues. You can not just found a franchise, buy a license and compete in the First league. But the National Cup is more open to many teams from the lower leagues. Basically 64 teams are allowed to compete in the National Cup. The 18 teams of the First League, the 18 teams of the Second League and the 21 winning teams of the regional amateur cup competitions and the four highest ranked teams of the Third League. The additional spots are assigned differently and in a more complicated way. The basic idea of the National has been to provide an opportunity for the teams of the lower professional and higher amateur teams to compete against the top teams at least once per year. For these teams and their players such a game might become the highlight of their career. For an amateur team competing against a top team of the First League may also mean to move to a bigger stadium for this one game and making enough money to consolidate the entire club for the following years. By the way: our National Cup has been established in 1935, long before anyone ever heard of any american sports league. And there are national cup competitions in Europe being even far more old. So please do not regard our european sport events as a copy of the american sports system. We can stand our own ground ;)

[@darragho6358]

This is common practice in the 5th group game every year in UCL. I don't know how many times I say Ramos pick up a yellow to miss the last meaning group game for real so there's no chance he misses a knockout leg

[@OKingSizeTv]

This is very common in football. On top of the country's championship and tournament, top teams will also play a continental tournament parallel to that. The continental tournament (Champions League, Libertadores, etc...) will give you more clout so teams tend to focus on that.

[@g-rated3514]

Dude just wanted to serve his time early

[@matthewkerner6164]

With the blue shirt, white coat and something in his ears, Seth looking like an ER doctor in this video

[@Shomononosh]

The main difference between the cup and the league is that a lower league team could win it and get a ticket to the European cup. Don't know if it's already happened in Germany, but here in France, Ligue 2 team Guingamp won the cup in 2009 and played a qualifying round of the Europa League while still being in Ligue 2. Also amateur teams pretty often reach the final 8 and sometimes even the final. There was this very genuine interrogation about the image of french football if third or fourth division Quevilly won the cup against Lyon in 2011 (which they didn't)

[@dreadus8125]

An arbitrary and unfair method of determining a champion? Dodgers fans everywhere are in shambles.

[@puellanivis]

Otze: “Haha, we have found a loophole, and there is nothing in the rules that can fix this.” Bundesliga: “Except for this rule here that says we can change the rules in order to maintain the spirit of the rules.” Otze: “Scheiße…”

[@TheMarslMcFly]

Ngl, as a German big Football Fan I've never heard of this story, nor of the Coaches quote 😂

[@AR-ef7dr]

What they missed is the cup tournament (which they describe as the "parallel to the league" sideshow) is way, way more than that. First, there can be more than one cup tournament and in England that'd be the League Cup (which is open to all teams in the top 4 divisions) and the FA cup, which is open to all teams in 10 (TEN!) divisions. Second, due to the mixing of levels, cups can provide for entertaing, proper giant killings (when a team a few divisions down knock out a team in the top division).

[@EddieMagana]

They're not playoff matches. They are domestic tournaments (FA Cup, Copa del Rey, Coup d France, etc.) and/or European tournaments (Champions, Euro, Europa), all within the same season and all depending on how you finish the previous season

[@haydenaudette8333]

MLS does it in a weird way where they have an American style regular season and playoffs and THEN there’s the US Open Cup which is the knockout tournament. So there’s two separate seasons in American soccer too.

[@NerdsmithTV]

The definition of Lawful Neutral.

[@ColinGLogan]

I do find it funny how they say European cups are like a commentary on US sports when the FA cup predates all the American sports leagues (older than the National League in the MLB by around 5 years) and the literal concept of end of season playoffs (by several decades)

[@lazylegolars]

Even if this is about FC Köln, to have you guys mention Werder Bremen by name is a delight.

[@thedremexin8281]

Reminder on Liverpool’s 2005 champions league final win. If you don’t know about this watch some videos about it. I think it would make a great rewinder.

[@danielhaskett5862]

It isn’t just 2 things simultaneously. For example in Spain it is 4: La Liga, Copa del Rey, Champions League/UEFA League, and FIFA Club World Cup with the possibility of 2 more Supercopa de Espana and UEFA Super Cup (2 matches and 1 match respectively). Barcelona had all 6 in 2009. Chelsea had the English equivalent of all 6 in 2020.

[@richardtherichard26]

But was he talking about any of those teams? No he was talking about a team that had 2 things simultaneously. So not only does no one care, but you’re also wrong. Congratulations my guy.

[@MrFallingcats]

I love this show so much and I think the cast is amazing but I'm wondering if the in-studio segments will return any time soon? I think you guys do a great job all things considered and I totally understand how hard it is to do stuff in-person but I do think there's just a little 5-10% that gets lost in the webcam segments. Again, kudos for the job y'all have done with the hand you've been dealt but I do miss the in person stuff.

[@SgtHolton]

The way to get away with something like this was already laid out by Ken Stabler. You insist for years that you fumbled legitimately and then when you're 75 you admit that you just chucked the ball downfield.

[@knedy]

A lot of European sports leagues are also open, so the teams with the worst record at the end of the season plays a tournament with a couple teams from the league that is from the lower division league and winners from that tournament where those teams have a chance to win and move up to the next division! So you can start a team and join in a lower division, and if you play good enough eventually you will get to the top. I would love more American sports do this, you get such great underdog stories from this system!

[@wannerknappe0483]

That's the first time I hear about this, although I am from Germany. I am also from the west where we speak a similar dialect than in Cologne and I know the saying "Mach et, Otze!" It literally became a saying here. Now I know ghe background! Thanks

[@DoubleATam]

So, he took a death to get a game over and reset his lives. This makes perfect sense to me (also I keep confusing Steven for slowbeef I was very confused for a second)

[@carterf3585]

Give us more Godfrey!

[@Reasonably_Andy]

Can we get a weird rules on MLB rule 9.15(b) which lead to Josh Harrison being charged with a strikeout when Jordy Mercer swung and missed at the first pitch thrown in a Tigers v Athletics game on 9/6/2019? Harrison wasn't even in the same state at the time, since he wasn't on the roster for either of the teams playing. Pretty weird, right?

[@SomeOfTheJuice]

I think the one difference between most European soccer leagues is they don't do the division/conference thing that pretty much all US sports have, making it so instead of playing most/every team, you play specific teams more and some not at all. It's a very odd system and makes it so sometimes the team with the best record in one conference never plays the one with the best record in the other conference. Most NFL seasons end up being someone other than the first seed vs. the first seed. In fact, if I counted correctly, on 16 of the 56 Super Bowls have been first seed vs. first seed.

[@jessejames9149]

Imagine if the MLB implemented a FA Cup type tournament in the USA. Single A, Double A, Triple A and the MLB all faced off and an MLB team would get eliminated by a single A team! That would be amazing!

[@GarkKahn]

Actually lots of teams do that if they don't just want to rest that player For example a player may just get another yellow card triggering the suspension for next game against a weak team so by the next game if it's an important match he's now free Some years ago In the south america wc qualifiers higuain(from argentina) just took off his shirt right before his substitution and so he got suspended for a game against bolivia with that yellow card, but now he was allowed to play the match after that one (i can't remember if it was brazil or another big team)

[@deknegt]

The context why there is a cup AND a league in Football (Soccer) goes all the way back to the early days of Football. In the very early days, clubs would only play each others in exhibition matches, often in the same town or the next town over, there weren't really any trophies or leagues, just bragging rights between factories or schools. Then in the late 1800s (1871 to be exact) as Football started to grow in popularity, they started to move further along, and the English Football Association (FA) was formed. They thought of the novel idea called the "FA Cup", where every team in England could enter into and at the end of it the 'best' club in England would hoist up the FA Cup to be called the best football club for that year. Football continued to grow in popularity, and with traveling becoming easier, the FA decided to expand things further, and thus they formed the Football League (1988), to connect all football in the nation (and even clubs from the other countries in the United Kingdom) they created an entire pyramid for football, from the tiny clubs that play on grass pitches to the twelve biggest clubs (at the time) competing in the First Division for the biggest prize of them all. But the Cup still remained, and it was open for every club, and so a club not in the first division could still become Cup winners even if they weren't among the biggest clubs at the time. The same question of "Who is the true champion" was even answered as in 1908 the FA would create the "Charity Shield", which would pit the league champion and the cup champion against each other to decide who the best team truly is. This match happens before the start of every new season, and doesn't tend to be very prestigious, but at the end of it one could argue who the 'best' one is of the previous season. Naturally as time went on, many nations that adopted Football themselves would adapt the same formats. Starting with a cup, and adding a league later.

[@j0ckel617]

Something along those lines happened not that far back in the Bundesliga. Two players had four yellow cards and intentionally took another and thereby a suspension for the next match. This was because the next match was against Bayern München (The Dicks that buy and win everything here) so they were suspended for a match they knew they'd most likely lose and had a clean sheet for the next match with was quite important in the race against relegation.

[@queyno5420]

„Mach et Otze“ As a German, it needed just the Title, to Know what they will been Talking about.

[@episodesglow]

It is one of our memes in Germany how the Americans have Emperor Palpatine say dew it in that meme

[@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498]

Hey, @Bundesliga do you know about the players got Suspension after the red/Yellow card incident happpend?

[@msolec2000]

Another way to use this rule in your favour is for league games (which has the same kind of rule about yellow cards, it's just a separate count for each tournament). If you are one card away from a one game suspension, and there's an important game coming up in two weeks (say, with the other top contender), you can "force" a yellow card on yourself, be suspended for the next game, and you're clear for the important game, rather than risking getting booked in the next game and having to miss the important one. Now that being said, what made Donovan McNabb finish his career Untitled?

[@JoYiSgUiTaR]

Love it, more soccer (football) content please!

[@musyarofah1]

Jose Mourinho has joined the chat.

[@Gorgoj]

That a big loophole, in my country both competitions have different card counts, if Otze did that it would have changed the fact he still has to miss the cup final.

[@davissae]

One time an Italian player dove in the penalty box. Just once.

[@BASEBALLFURIES.]

a few years ago draymond green had to many technical or flagrant fouls and was suspended one game in the final. but i always wondered if you got too many in the regular season and instead were suspended for a game then, and then the foul count resets before the playoffs

[@Dendarang]

There are actually three levels of European football, not two. You have the national league which functions like US league specifically like NHL with the same point system, national cup that's a knockout championship that only teams from that country play, and two mutually exclusive international Europe-wide leagues - higher tier Champions League and lower tier Europa League. And both Champions League and Europa League function like a world cup in format but with teams and then only teams from Europe. Both Champions League and Europa League have a qualifying round and then a group stage that feeds into a knockout stage like FIFA World Cup.

[@lucaspereiramartins1485]

And the great surprise for me that the concept of National Open Cup can be strange for americans. Or just people of of Football in general. Thats what I like most about this video: an unbiased view of extremely common things I want to see their reaction to the Coupe de France participants...

[@hairbear243]

More soccer videos! I am not asking anymore!

[@GamesFromSpace]

Any time there's a stupid loophole around a rule, you have a stupid rule. Perverse incentives should always be rooted out, not band-aided. In this case, the stupid rule seems to be a hard line for number of yellow cards you can acquire in a long segment of time. It's some video game logic, and that's bad.

[@semtext44]

Every time you accumulate 5 yellow cards over however many games in one season, you are suspended from the following game. It resets at the end of the season.

[@semtext44]

If you get two yellow cards in the same game, however, you are sent off with a yellow-red card (2x yellow in the same game equals red) and get suspended for the next game. If you get a straight red card, you might get suspended for multiple games depending on how blatant the unsportsmanlike conduct was - there is a difference between just swearing at the referee or hitting another player in the head, for instance.

[@GamesFromSpace]

@@semtext44 It's the "over however many games" part which creates a perverse incentive to trigger a suspension for yourself *on purpose* to control the timing.

[@GamesFromSpace]

@@SimuLord That doesn't fix the problem, it just makes it less bad. A player can still be incentivized to deliberately be suspended early, to avoid being suspended from a more important or difficult game.

[@donegaldan102]

I believe on most contests if you are suspended. That is from the next match of that contest. Not the next out right match. So don't believe this would happen many leagues

[@traviswrigg5158]

This dude sounds like the epitome of Lawful Neutral

[@arthurjamesaltmann729]

Too funny---as a nine year old in, school, I thought the teams were selected unfairly, and being on the losing side--I literally took the soccer ball and went home....during school...30 years later I ran into a teacher from then. She still laughed about it....Guess I was a little too averse to losing...

[@lmfsilva3000]

Before UEFA changed the rules so that yellow cards in the group stage of CL and UEFA/Europa didn't carry to the knockout round, it was very common to see teams that were on the verge of advancing with players that had already two yellow cards getting a third at the end of the match (usually time wasting on a goal kick or a corner or booting the ball after play was stopped) to get the suspension at a mostly meaningless game and play in the knockout rounds with a clean slate.

[@nathanjm000]

They still do I believe. I believe they only reset before the semifinal. This only changed because both Bayern and Chelsea had most of their defenders suspended for yellow card accumulation.

[@lmfsilva3000]

@@nathanjm000 oh, you're right. I remember there was a push to clear at both group stage and quarter finals, but that didn't go ahead. What may have changed how that worked was that blatant gaming of the rules could be punished with a second game suspension (so they now just kick a guy in the shins and whine about it before being subbed off or on added time).

[@iceman4660]

This is a common event in every league. It's called being smart.

[@romulusnr]

My understanding is that the tournaments and the regular season aren't really quite the same makeup. Like FA Cup for example. EPL plays in FA Cup, and is odds-on to win it, but non-EPL teams (like EFL etc) also play in the FA Cup. I didn't know they carried over cards between the two though. I know in the NA conference they keep those things separate per-competition. Like you can be on a one game suspension in MLS but it won't affect you in say Champions League it will only affect you in the next MLS game.