Why Adam Savage Will Never Build a Star Trek Spacesuit

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[@IloveElsaofArendelle]

Adam, build the First Contact Movie Space suit or order it from Global Effects 😃

[@andrewlocke4609]

Suit from first contact. And uss defiant over falcon

[@greggv8]

Why the back of Spock's suit got extra detailing was because of the scene with the thruster pack that was jettisoned. In that video from a year ago there's clearly a 9V battery connector dangling yet neither of them mentioned it. Would you dare connect a battery to see what lights up?

[@jasonbarry3301]

Adam trying to break it to his fan base that he doesn’t like one singular aspect of trek costume design like he’s explaining divorce to his children.

[@ZGryphon]

You can almost see the thought process of "crap, how can I get this across without implicitly dissing everyone who's ever designed a costume or prop for _Star Trek_ here" running in real time. :)

[@prozacgod]

Those were exactly where I went, they were def nice.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

lol. So it’s not you, it’s us, your mom and dad just don’t see the same aesthetic any more, but we both love you.

[@marcusgunderson634]

Build the suit for the kids - Blink 182

[@thomasbecker9676]

I'm pretty sure he's already had to explain divorce to his children.

[@bryanwhite2685]

The First Contact space suits during the scene on the Deflector Dish... those were absolutely beautiful.

[@NeoTechni]

agreed

[@DeltaGammaKilo]

IMHO way better than the suits from Star Trek: TMP.

[@Dargonhuman]

@@DeltaGammaKilo Indeed. They look like actual, proper space suits. The TMP suits look like GI Joe action figures wearing an old timey diving suit. Though I will admit I do like Spock's helmet a bit more than the First Contact helmet, it's just everything below the helmet is ... not great.

[@cyclingzealot]

Yeah, I think that's the best one.

[@NHT2]

I agree. I also really liked the voyager space suits.

[@Yandarval]

In a phrase. Star Trek is too clean and greebly free for Adam.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

If Adam was ever a character in the MCU, it’d be named Greebly.

[@70briareos]

Yup, I actually feel that too! LOL!

[@Ainar86]

I'm partial to the form "greebless".

[@Lethgar_Smith]

The smooth hull of the Enterprise is an issue for non-Star Trek fans, Ive noticed. The Syd Mead and Ron Cobb aesthetic from the 70s completely altered the way we envision the future now and Star Trek has always been at odds with that vision.

[@Ainar86]

@@Lethgar_Smith Well, Star Trek is a utopia while their visions were much more grounded, even dystopian at times.

[@joermnyc]

The suits from First Contact when they fought the Borg on the deflector dish were pretty awesome.

[@terrylong8894]

This. They got reused a lot on DS9 and Voyager. Starfleet has the most aesthetically beautiful ships in science fiction.

[@SavageGreywolf]

Aesthetically it's cool, my problem with it is my problem with most sci fi space suits- I wonder how it's so form fitting while maintaining pressure. Star Trek is particularly bad about this; but at least on the Animated Series they had magic force field belts to use as space suits.

[@LoveMakeShareTV]

​@@SavageGreywolfI think they maintain pressure while being form-fitting for the same reason the thin nacelles on the original Enterprise aren't a liability - because material science has progressed significantly.

[@BrowncoatInABox]

I really like Enterprises space suit

[@ids1024]

​@@LoveMakeShareTV I suppose it fits the general atmosphere and themes of Star Trek to have things like that which are impossible with current materials and methods, but maybe aren't inherently impossible.

[@Fr33dan]

Star Trek is such an ideal picture of the future that everything within it is pristine in a way that doesn't actually feel achievable, so when you build something to match that it doesn't feel like a real object. The grit and sometimes eclectic nature of Star Wars designs makes it feel more like something that could exist, so when you actually have one of these items in your hand it's easier to suspend your disbelief and just take in the magic of the world.

[@DelcoRanz93]

My favorite Star Trek spacesuit design is the one used in Star Trek: First Contact for the EVA fight against the Borg on the Deflector Dish on the Enterprise-E. Those spacesuits were reused later on in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and more frequently and with some modifications in Star Trek: Voyager. As for Aesthetic that speaks to me, Star Trek all the way and the Enterprise-D designed by Andrew Probert is, in my opinion, the pinnacle of that universe's design work.

[@germansnowman]

Couldn’t agree more.

[@justasoundguy9341]

Buckaroo Banzai has got to be one of the best 80’s movies of all time. It just throws you into this world, doesn’t tell you the rules, is unapologetically bizarre, and is just a corny, weird, wonderful thing that is completely a product of its time.

[@sallyb.7717]

My feelings exactly! I was so jazzed to hear that movie referenced! Some if the costumes and props in that movie are equally hilarious and cheap.

[@kevmauldin]

It's boo-tay! Boo TAY!

[@kimberlyljacobs5186]

BB ROCKS!🎉

[@RodCornholio]

To add to the philosophical complexity in prop replication, are questions like, “Do I replicate the actual prop…or my suspended disbelief in the story?” So, a prop gun may have been actually just a lightweight plastic toy that was modified, painted, etc. but in the story, it has weight that reflects your understanding of how heavy a gun should feel. I don’t make props, but if I did, I would cater to my inner child so I would make them to my personal standard: if I were in that story and picked it up, it would be like this. Play/“pretend” 101.

[@thomasbecker9676]

An easier example is what color to paint a pulse rifle from Aliens. The props were brown bess, but the lighting makes them appear greener.

[@RodCornholio]

@@thomasbecker9676 Not technically a prop, but Kirk’s gold shirt from Star Trek. Does one create how it appeared on screen (studio lights made it look gold) or how it was in real life (a sort of avocado green)?

[@japewisteria]

The overthruster shows up in a large amount of Trek series, still avoiding the grip of the evil red lectroids! It was glued to a control panel in the Enterprise episodes featuring Weller...I've always wondered if he remembered it on set.

[@Zeaiclies]

It appears in Voyager series and DS9 as well as Enterprise. I think it is also in First Contact on the Phoenix.

[@GaryBleck]

Also in a TNG episode with Wesley Crusher and a girl he’s trying to flirt with

[@michaelmccall2687]

Just jumping in to say that Buckaroo Banzai also has Carl Lumley Jeff Goldblum and Clancy Brown in it. The cast is just spectacular.

[@tonycosta3302]

I think the TOS space suits were cool in a very retro way. I like how they add sparkles to everything and have mesh helmets so you can see the actors.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

Trek 2, Khan, the one Checkov had on when Khan picked him up by the “handle” on it.

[@kutter_ttl6786]

I recall during one of his visits to Ryan Nagata's workshop, you could see one hanging in the background.

[@0Aberration]

I love Star Trek too, but I get what you're saying. The franchise put its design priorities into scientific plausibility and utilitarianism, so there's not a lot of stuff that's "cool" on its own. I think the perfect encapsulation of this was when the Voyager crew was designing the Delta Flyer, and Paris wanted to put these crazy wings on it, and is immediately shot down by Tuvok because they were impractical.

[@NewMessage]

I dunno... the Klingon Bird of Prey give me the Millenium Falcon vibes... in an odd way.

[@ZGryphon]

Yeah, Klingon tech does "dirty and janky" better than just about any other tech base in Trek.

[@IronMan9771]

I'm not sure if I fully agree, but I think I see where you're coming from on that

[@FUBARguy107]

​@@IronMan9771Think in terms of "held together on prayers and drinking bet winnings"

[@c1ph3rpunk]

@@FUBARguy107 tera'nganpu'!

[@professor-josh]

It was designed at ILM so maybe that's why. The Reliant feels very Falcon-ish to me.

[@donjones4719]

It was inaccurate to refer to the Polaris Dawn spaceflight as a tourist one. The astronauts on board check off all of the same boxes that the NASA and ESA astronauts who've flown on Dragon have. Two of the astronauts, the mission specialists, are SpaceX engineers, ones who worked on the new spacesuit design and operation. Jared Isaacman did pay for part of the flight for himself and his friend , Kidd Poteet. Kidd is a retired USAF fighter pilot.* Jared and Kidd were responsible for piloting the spacecraft, there was no ex-NASA astronaut on board for that. This is Jared's second spaceflight as pilot-in-command. Sarah Gillis spent years training NASA astronauts how to pilot and operate all of the systems on Dragon, and directed all of the contingency training, much of it in person. (She also taught Jared.) Anna Mennon is an experienced SpaceX mission control director and an ex-NASA ISS mission control director. The Polaris Dawn program is an (unspoken) joint venture with SpaceX to develop crewed LEO operations for Starship. It's not spoken of as such formally but the signs are pretty clear. *Kidd was a test pilot, instructor/commander of the USAF version of Top Gun, and member of the Thunderbirds. He stacks up next to a number of ex-USAF pilots in NASA. Jared is as close as you can get to being a fighter pilot as a civilian. He owns his own MiG-29 and founded a company that's taken over as the aggressor squadron for Top Gun, ditto for the USAF and several allied air forces.

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

"Stuff has matriculated out of its lifetime utility". I should maybe start saying that instead of "it is worn out." Or is the word not "matriculated"? I usually hear it used about enrolling in a university. "Simulacrum" is another good one.

[@Games_and_Music]

He's just belonquently partituous.

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

@@Games_and_Music How cromulence adjacent. 😅

[@lasarith2]

If I recall the Suits for first contact where so good in being airtight they had to drill holes in it in order for the actors to not pass out in , ( wither that story is true or not I don’t know ) but it was told around the time it came out .

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

Other than just a few examples, like one or two episodes from Star Trek Enterprise and Star Trek the Motion Picture, there are scant few Star Trek _space suits_ to choose from. Star Trek _uniforms,_ on the other hand, are quite numerous and varied. Literally dozens to choose from.

[@TomSL55AMG]

Always enjoy hearing your thought process, it helps to clear the noise in my head.

[@QuestionMan]

Goldblum's outfit in Buckaroo is worth the price of admission, as is the coordinated swagger march the heroes perform-which beats the pants off of the overdone "slow walk" we get today.

[@Scudboy17]

Also, Buckaroo's final suit was essentially the same as the 11th Doctor at the start of his run.

[@GetSmartish]

@@Scudboy17 Ha! I never put that together. Sweet!

[@djstumpy7399]

My Fave space suit is Cat's gold one from Red Dwarf.

[@davidbohn7663]

@Adam Savage's Tested: the Oscillation Overthruster is actually much more prevalent than you might think. The folks who designed it did a lot of work for other science fiction movies and series, and it became a thing for them to stick into various movies-- John Iacovelli (designer for Babylon 5) relates how he recognized it as it was being used in an episode of Babylon 5.

[@farview13]

Ha! My first experience with conflicting references was when I was trying to identify the type of sword was used by Brutus when he was killed off on Xena. I have a nice collection of Xena prop swords and love looking at the show and identifying the different swords. Watching the episode, I noticed that during the final sword battle between Gabrielle and Brutus, he began the fight with one type of sword and ended up with a completely different one. Non-stop fight but somehow the sword was swapped. Blew my mind. Talk about continuity errors!

[@JolynBowler]

💙🌻💙 Thanx Adam, for the mention of The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension. What a wonderfully,. wild, off the wall adventure. It never gets old. I've lost track of how many times I've seen it. 💙🌻💙

[@j.robertsergertson4513]

Adam should build a black lectroid thermopod

[@JolynBowler]

@@j.robertsergertson4513 Oh my, YES! 💙🌻💙

[@josemolivera]

It's Butt-ayeh, not butteee!

[@FixitU-n8p]

My favorite suit is from the second star Trek. It had the grab handle on the front.

[@meldroc]

Pop helmet off, insert eel, put helmet back on! That's how it's supposed to work, right?

[@KentAJDK]

Yes those colors, orange and brown. They are so unik together. Reminds me of my childhood in the 70`s. I feel warm and safe. ❤

[@craigejacobs]

Fun fact - the Oscillation Overthruster is in Zefram Cochrane's warp ship in Star Trek First Contact.

[@bunch1]

Honestly, my favorite Star Trek suit design is the Enterprise version.

[@matthewhall6288]

Enterprise had the best costumes.

[@jeffwenberg4321]

I'm with you there.

[@mrdasboot45]

If you like orange spacesuits you must really like the one that Tintin wears

[@williamburrows6215]

Holy Jesus Batman! I havnt thought about Bukaroo Bonzie in over a decade; my pa showed us it for a movie night when I was a young boy in the 2000's. Definitely blew my mind back then.

[@Ducky-face]

Space suits really aren't something that comes to mind when I think of Star Trek (or Star Wars either for that matter). You almost never saw them. In the original series I think they only showed a space suit in one episode ( the Tholian Web). In TNG and DS9 I don't think they ever did - even once. While they did appear in some of the movies, they weren't particularly memorable props to me.

[@miles2378]

They showed a emergency presure garment being pulled out of a compartment in a TNG episode.

[@neachtarrsainn3216]

Adam, are you a fan of The Orville? I absolutely love that show!🚀

[@Elwaves2925]

I wish we'd hear something definite aboout season 4, even if it's bad news. Being in limbo is worse than bad news IMO.

[@ezraclark7904]

​@@Elwaves2925Filming starts in January!!! Announced by MacFarlane on the official podcast, after Ted season 2 is done

[@Elwaves2925]

@@ezraclark7904 Thank you kindly, that's great news. I'd heard Scott Grimes had mentioned 2025 but didn't want to get my hopes up until it as more official.

[@trentfaust52]

Just wanted to correct this, for the record. In former NASA astronaut Cady Coleman’s recent autobiography, “Sharing Space,” she explains that there were originally four sizes of the EMU, NASA’s current spacesuit. At one point, they eliminated S and XL, keeping only M and L. After complaints from some of the larger male astronauts, the XL suit was reinstated. But the same accommodation was not made for the women for the S suit. So that is why there is a more limited range of suit sizes than originally planned, not that the components for some sizes have aged out of use.

[@ciarangale4738]

I mean it does make sense, that an oversized suit is workable, but a too-small suit is a real issue. Id rather have a little too much room to wiggle than be literally unable to stretch properly

[@trentfaust52]

@@ciarangale4738 The issue with the elimination of the size S suits for Coleman and others was that at that time, in order to qualify for a long-duration mission to the ISS, you had to to be certified for EVA. So that meant that she had to qualify in a suit that was too big. They had to pack it with padding, and even then it sounds as though it was exceptionally challenging to be proficient in the Neutral Buoyancy Lab in EVA training in a mis-sized suit. I do understand your point about it being easier for someone to use a suit that is too big than one that is too small. But I found the decision to eliminate a size-class of suits to be a bit befuddling. The Agency goes through an exhaustive selection process for astronauts, accepts them into the program, and then takes away a key piece of equipment for some of them to be able to do the jobs they were selected for. I understand that it was likely a cost-saving measure, which is unfortunate.

[@BahWeepGranahWeepNiniBong]

I could listen to Adam all day 🙂

[@aikumaDK]

If his calendar was cleared, I bet he could talk all day about a host of things that are tangentially related.

[@cia1209]

Yeah, I don’t know about this whole space tourism business. I mean a lot of people can’t even afford to take a cruise on the ocean without saving up for a year or two. I don’t even wanna think about how long I would have to save to get a trip into space.

[@scottfw7169]

That parallels the history of air travel which was initially affordable for only the wealthy then as aircraft design technology advanced airliners became larger and more efficient the cost of air travel became affordable for the middle class..

[@donjones4719]

@@scottfw7169 Yes. 1920s and early ''30s "airliners" carried ~6 passengers and were used only by the rich or certain businessmen. However, there is a much steeper curve for spaceflight. Passengers on even the simplest tourist flight will need a lot of instruction. That costs money. I believe spacesuits will be omitted and reliance placed on the spacecraft's redundant sytems. The launch costs will remain high, even for Starship. It'll take a lot of time and a lot of trust for that to be human rated. Flying to orbit in anything else will remain at at least $10 million per seat.

[@harvey66616]

Seems to me that given the current political environment, space tourism is an effective way to encourage spaceflight research and development and to get funding from the private sector. That said, I also think it's fair to say that society at large could make much better use of that money if we did a better job taxing the wealthy, as we did in the US through the early 1960's (when the highest marginal rate was 90%). One significant reason billionaires can afford to fund space travel this way is that they are keeping so much of the wealth that they've acquired at the expense of, and through the use of, the general public. I mean, I guess another perspective is that by having such radically low taxation of the wealthy, we enjoy the benefits when the money they've been able to amass is used for stuff like this. But personally, I'd rather not leave the question of advancement in spaceflight and other important technologies up to the whim of a handful of billionaires (not to mention all the other societal benefits we fail to achieve because of insufficient taxation).

[@SigmaJump]

Oh man, I hear you on the conflicting references. As a largely game cosplayer, when each piece of official or concept art shows something *slightly* differently, and they're all just a little bit off-the-in-game-model (which is usually itself not as detailed as the concept art), and it's just a choice of which reference to go off of. Usually I just go for "What's closest to in-game that actually seems to follow reasonable design conventions and will actually look good IRL".

[@robertdouble559]

My OCD is going of the charts that "Loop" is on the left and "Hook" is on the right, rather than the other way around.

[@markgrudzinski914]

I would love, love, love to see you build an Oscillation Overthruster! It would definitely give your machining skills a run for their money.

[@ThatRobHuman]

Despite being a huge Star Trek nerd I'm actually with you on the aesthetic, but with a handful of exceptions: I get absolutely *giddy* about the Motion Picture era ship designs and the TWOK-era props and uniforms. Those work for me in a way that no other Trek aesthetic does.

[@Wild-Will]

If you're a fan of orange, what about the orange space suit from Space 1999? You could even do a series of recreating early Sci-Fi movie and series space suits as they are all pretty basic and cobbled together, just a thought...

[@hunterraoulproductions5307]

I completely agree about Star Trek being about the shows commentary and the inspiring utopia it depicts, I feel the privatisation of space travel leads us away from reaching such an optamistic future though, so am not in favour of that

[@christopherdean1326]

I kind of get where you're coming from with this. I collect knives, and I love Klingon culture, but I don't really like any of the Klingon blades shown in either the movies or TV series. I kind of want a bat'leth, just because of what it is, but the dk tahg, jej'taj and mek'leth are REALLY badly designed as functional weapons. In truth, the bat'leth isn't much of weapon, but it's an iconic piece of kit.

[@nathkrupa3463]

Great video sir ❤

[@deismaccountant]

Would you ever consider testing the 3M Electrostatic Wall Story? It’s so fascinating.

[@ericthompson3982]

I prefer to think of Star Trek as a platform for social discussion. Politics is obviously a part of that discussion, but not the entire story. There's a huge amount to talk about in the human experience that isn't politics, and Star Trek has always been willing to address that. They haven't always done it in ways that age well, but one has to admire the courage of using that platform so boldly and with so little pretense.

[@jackpijjin4088]

I agree. It may be the fact that there's a slight disconnect between the topic they're actually addressing and the topic they're portraying through their characters. It engaged the viewer's mind and they apply what they're seeing as more of a 'hey, that's like , what if we handled it more like this?' At least that's my theory on it.

[@ElectroDFW]

Politics isn't just about government. Used as an adjective, being politic in your conversation with another just means saying things in a clear, efficient and non-offputting, non-threatening, non-accusing, non-aggressive etc manner. And the goal is to come to a consensus about the topic you both are discussing. Politics at its essence is just a way of dealing with people.

[@ericthompson3982]

@ElectroDFW Agreed. It is, at its essence, however, a negotiative means of resolving difference or achieving balance. There is more to existence than just that, and I feel Star Trek acknowledges that.

[@ed_halley]

Re: reference photos. Would you rather prop makers take more photographs of their actual as-built props and offer them as primary references, or is the whole research process from on-screen an important part of the quest?

[@thomasbecker9676]

Propmakers won't waste their time, and too much gets changed after it leaves their hands. Besides, research is part of the hobby.

[@RyanSeven1111]

I love the 'Undiscovered Country' spacesuits. Those helmets esp.

[@BenPearson_kd7uiy]

I'm curious what Adam thinks of the SpaceX Space Suit. There is one on public display in Huntsville, AL at the US Space and Rocket Center. I'm a docent there and would love to show the suit to Adam sometime!

[@jdjeep98]

Side note: I love your shirt. :)

[@robertpopa2628]

Other example of differences in prop refrences are: The interior of the falcon vs the model. Most of this boils down to the short time frame given. The netflix lost in space jupiters. The sets will not fit in the model; well, the flight/living deck will, but the others don't fit right. The should have done the entire thing as a structure in a cad program and used that to make the models more consistant. Personally, I suspect that they originally did, but someone wanted a sleeker jupiter.

[@BrandenZimmerman-rf9jl]

The oscillation overthruster is in the Phoenix in Star Trek First Contact! Right between Riker and LaForge.

[@undefined40]

Well, an "oscillation overthruster" is also mentioned, probably as an easter egg, in TNG when Picard has to fight for Data's human rights (S2 E9), as well as in Picard S3 E6.

[@AzraelThanatos]

I like some of the upgraded versions of the first contact suits that popped up in STO Ontop of things with props in different movies/shows/ect of the same thing, you also might have specialty versions of some props that are for specific scenes or something that heavily changes on one hero or stunt prop (sometimes due to damage and repair or just needed for specifics such as colors, especially metallics, being muted/painted over due to the lighting for scenes where it didn't work. There was one that was extremely jarring the movie focused on a hunter back from an expedition where they captured something, three major filming points and a key prop had changes each time. It starts in his home where he's discussing the events of the expedition with a reporter, his rifle is on the wall...it goes into a flashback/storytelling thing where they zoom in on the rifle with the intent to then switch to the jungle scenes with zooming out from it, but they'd filmed those first and, apparently, in shipping the hero prop around, it had gotten damaged (wart hog ivory sight if I remember right that had broken off during transit back to the studio), they also do a reverse of the transition back to the home when his story is over, and they hear a report that the creature they caught got loose, so he grabs that repaired rifle design and heads off...well, apparently between filming that portion and the climax the weapon was damaged as well and is clearly different in the last part of the movie.

[@RooReviews]

its funny this, because im the exact opposite- i ADORE the Trek Tech. Its what ive not liked at much in the newer iteratons of star trek (post enterprise) the Treknology just isnt the same. TNG-ENT is all just stunning

[@jeremyzeimet3631]

As a trek fan I get it. My favorite space suits are definitely the beat-up belter suits in The Expanse for all the reasons he listed

[@astrophysicistguy]

It's definitely easier when there is only one version of a prop. When I finally decided to build a screen accurate Callahan Fullbore Autolock I was able to find over 40 high def images of the actual prop including from an auction house that tried to auction off the actual prop 10 years ago. It was a gold mine and showed that all the versions previously made had some details not correct. My only compromise was that the exact model of the Dbal II laser range finder used on the real prop stopped being made 20 years ago and even airsoft versions were no longer available so I got the 2nd generation version of it

[@gregcampwriter]

The oscillation overthruster prop appears several times in the Star Trek canon, recast as a variety of gadgets.

[@scorp2359]

i've never been a suit guy (except iron man, of course), but i am most definitely a scifi ship guy. as much as i love the falcon, there are actually a couple star trek ships i love to death because of what they are - the delta flyer & the phoenix. the starships are all well & good, they have their place, but the uniqueness & moment of both the delta flyer & the phoenix are spectacular to me.

[@Oðrun]

I dug the life support belts from the animated series. Admittedly, there's not a lot to design unless you can illuminate your entire body with a lime-green aura.

[@mezzanoon]

Damn the amount of editing work it would take to put in a picture of the suit he was discussing would've been minimal. Cmon..

[@ObsessionoftheMonth]

7:00 it shows up in star trek TNG, back to the future, and other movies.

[@RonHarrisMe]

OMG, this is SO FREAKY. When he read the question, THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF was the space suit SPOCK wore in “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” just before he enters “the orifice” of VYGER. That is just NUTS. A minute 50 into the video, and like magic, same page.

[@charlesvane2774]

Love the shirt!

[@greghenrikson952]

Wasn't the overthruster ALSO used as the iconic time travel mechanism in "Back to the Future"?

[@ElectroDFW]

Talking about noticing things: a drawer for hook and a separate drawer for loop velcro; and a sombrero being hung from the ceiling 😆

[@briandeschene8424]

From my perspective space suits are practically not Star Trek cannon. Yes, yes some were used very occasionally. But when you can count on one hand the number of times an entire variety of prop was used over several seasons of a series, it just doesn’t have the same weight as the tricorder, hand phasers 1 and 2, the communicator, etc.

[@raygrooms1736]

While both Trek and Wars' franchises are fantasy, it is easier to believe the Trek ships could actually exist. They seem more utilitarian and practical than Wars. An example: the Borg cubes. A cube does not look sleek and sexy, but it is the most efficient way to use space. This is why office buildings and a lot of homes are mostly square/rectangular. But we can all agree the Millennium Falcon is the best ship ever.

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

Why is it always these big channels that have these weird ad issues where it doesn't play or can't be skipped so you have to reload the video until it works?

[@brsnow225]

Are you talking about the Chekov suit in wrath of Kahn? Kahn grabbing and single hand lifting a guy on a handle for a back yard fence.... On a space suit.... Hilarious and not lost on me

[@StuffedAvocado]

My dad introduced "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension" to me as a teen because of the cast! 😅🥰

[@bishop9757]

I am more in to S'Trek than S'wars, but I do think the outfits/costumes don't seem fun to make, outside of Quarks outfits they are great. I like that the aesthetic for the Federation is minimalist, it fits so well with the utopia of their society and focus on betterment of all. I also get as a production that is great for ease and cost.

[@BobRod-mi8rq]

Oh boy, you start talking about Star Trek Mom gets happy😊😊😊

[@Bigrignohio]

The thruster suit? It would be quite cool to have one of those.

[@professor-josh]

Complete with long-winded tutorial explaining how it works, lol. "Warning: your emergency evacuation thruster suit is on..."

[@joelreyes4886]

I honestly agree! They miss the mark on space suits so often bro it’s funny 😂 (totally understand the limitations of budget design etc) the only suit I personally like is the one from Enterprise

[@chrisc1140]

Lots of people bringing up the First Contact suits which I think is valid, but my favorite spacesuits in Trek are the ones from Enterprise!

[@KGiustOD]

The Red Bull/Felix Baumgarter space jump suit fascinates me. Talk about a specialized piece of kit designed out of essentially theory only!

[@thomasbecker9676]

"Space."

[@philopharynx7910]

There is one flaw In Buckaroo Banzai - they hold back the best part of the score until the closing credits. It should have been the main theme - it would be as iconic as Indiana jones or BTTF! p.s. Watch Perfect Tommy in the credits.

[@michaelsullivan1262]

Have you seen those fake sleeve tattoo shirts? I was thinking of just a forearm band of that material with your ruler on it! Make?

[@SavageGreywolf]

I would assume that material stretches in a way your skin doesn't (or at least you'd really HOPE it doesn't, hahaha) which might make it crap as a meterstick.

[@undefined40]

Well, each one his own. I for my part would anytime prefer the Excelsior over the Millennium Falcon. Its like comparing to drive a jaguar roadster and an station wagon in regards to elegance.

[@matthewhall6288]

Absolutely.

[@joshuamckown3145]

Adam should make the infamous Spock helmet. Just for the memes.

[@palkokity8235]

I just knew he would say the spock OMP suit. Other than the "worker" suits we see at the space dock, I can only think of one suit scene from the original show and two from the TOS movies. The only really industrial or gritty ship in the Trek universe is the Klingon Bird of Prey or Cochran's first warp ship from First Contact. Just about everything else is too refined except some of the vessels in the Original Motion Picture. Those had similarities to everthing else going on at that time: Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rodgers, The Black Hole, etc.

[@pyroslev]

I used to be an absolute Trekkie. Then the Expanse came along and basically slayed that entire love for me. Since then, Star Trek (minus DS9's Dominion War a bit) has been to clean, pure and happy. Treknobable also doesn't hit on anything for me. Give me Babylon 5, The Expanse, Firefly and even Doctor Who still.

[@samanthamerino1244]

How about making the spacesuits from Farscape, like John Crichton's suit or the Peacekeeper suits.

[@thomasbecker9676]

I doubt Adam is familiar with Farscape.

[@neilsullivan6416]

You have mini model Adams, maybe make an Orange Spock suit for a little Adam as a starting point

[@ShadowDragon8685]

What do you think of the _Georgiou-_class design? If anything in Star Trek is gonna scratch that itch, I think it's the _Georgiou._ Take a look? Please? It's so worth it! (Honorable shout to the _Akula_ class too.)

[@astrophysicistguy]

Buckaroo Banzi is the most iconic SciFi movie ever made!

[@rorag111]

I think Spock's high temperature suit from Star Trek Into Darkness is really cool.

[@j.robertsergertson4513]

Star trek's deep space nine used the oscillation over thruster as self sealing stem bolts .

[@sorewahimitsudesu]

Not a fan of the original series silver suit with the red and blue hoses and the tall bubble helmet? Or the radiation suit that looks like bubble wrap? I admit to loving the Motion Picture suit with the 2001 style helmet, and the more 1979 Alien-looking Wrath of Khan suits with the little handle so Khan can carry Chekov around like a suitcase.

[@SnepperStepTV]

Star Trek universe that looks like Star Wars universe instead is ideal tbh. I will give TOS credit though, the sweater-based starfleet uniforms are a great beginner cosplay platform. Though, a WWII-style leather A2 flight jacket hand-painted like period bombers but for, perhaps early, Starfleet? Now that's cool....

[@farshnuke]

To be fair my favourite Star Trek ship is the NX-01 Enterprise and the uniforms mean I can't think of a single thing I'd like to cosplay (Ironically my favourite thing to cosplay would probably be one of the sexy outfits designed for the women in TOS because when you look at them you can say "oh that's from that episode")

[@c1ph3rpunk]

Why not do a “What Would JJ Do?” Fanfic version of a Trek suit but guided by a Star Wars aesthetic. The hardest part would be the lens flare though. Not sure how you’d get dirty lens flare visible from at least 150 miles away.

[@Deathwish44411]

i lowkey wish there was a nice blend of star trek and star wars where it keeps its science semi grounded and have a diverse political spheres while still having the grand battles and so on

[@josephalexander3884]

Excellent perspective. Some things I have never considered. Would you go to Mars?

[@heathwalters9487]

Fun fact: In EVENT HORIZON they use an air orbital sander for a door opener.

[@markwritt8541]

I've always liked the ships of Babylon 5 as well as Star Trek and Star Wars. B5 had a few spacesuits as well.

[@TerkanTyr]

I feel like the spacesuit problem says a lot about a civilization's potential to become less capable over time.

[@GaryBleck]

Over Thruster also appears on an episode of TNG Trek

[@theangrymarmot8336]

I would rather the Defiant from ST than the MF from SW. However, the Slave 1, Tie Fighters, X-Wings, and Ghost from SW is way cooler the ST's shuttlecraft. I do like Bird of Klingon / Romulan large ships over SW's battlecruisers / star destroyers. I am just glad we have two great "universes" to enjoy. And Buckaroo Banzai? One of my all time favorites. The flash back where John Lithgow runs out of the lab and turns back towards the camera evilly hunched over and hisses is hilariously awesome.

[@aw3752]

You like the Millennium Falcon design more than the Enterprise design? They’re both great, but there’s nothing that compares to the elegance and perfection of balance and speed than the Enterprise- especially the re-fit Enterprise from The Motion Picture.