Why Are GameCube Discs SO SMALL?? (The world may never know..)

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Jacob R

Jacob R

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@petuniaskunk2316
@petuniaskunk2316 4 жыл бұрын
They used the shrink machine
@jrob0021
@jrob0021 4 жыл бұрын
You have figured out the secret
@ThatOneGasStation
@ThatOneGasStation 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god GENIUS
@GivFnz
@GivFnz 4 жыл бұрын
GENIUS.
@gustrrer2409
@gustrrer2409 4 жыл бұрын
Oh mah gawd (police called) (gone wrong)
@kacpercebulak3671
@kacpercebulak3671 4 жыл бұрын
Qqqq
@TimDespairBear11
@TimDespairBear11 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard GameCube games are small for 2 reasons. Reason 1 is to prevent piracy, and reason 2 is to make the loading times faster. Also the GameCube cases were smaller but only in japan.
@TimDespairBear11
@TimDespairBear11 4 жыл бұрын
Strange things are happening to Woody yeah overall it was probably a bad decision but that’s how Nintendo is, they always do weird things. I think if the GameCube used dvds they might of had more 3rd party games like GTA
@MovieEggman
@MovieEggman 4 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough the NTSC case for Gameboy Player Start-up Disc is the exact same one as a JP Gamecube Cases.
@zpushy633sora
@zpushy633sora 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Japanese GameCube Game Cases were better than the North American Cases I don't know why but that's just my Opinion
@Δημήτρης-θ7θ
@Δημήτρης-θ7θ 3 жыл бұрын
Reason 1 (prevent piracy) is a myth: GameCube discs are MiniDVD discs which rely on additional proprietary features for copy protection (just like PS2 and Xbox discs do with full-size DVD discs), and GameCube games can be burnt using a regular DVD recorder and then play on a modded GameCube console. I think it's reason 2, aka improve seek times. Back in the N64 era, Nintendo made a big deal about how the slow seek times of optical discs restricted freedom of movement (which they did), so they probably wanted to minimize seek times on their first disc-based console. Weirdly, the Wii uses full-sized DVD discs so it doesn't have the seek-time advantage. BTW the Wii U did use a custom disc format (a heavily modified derivative of Blu-Ray disc), so Wii U discs cannot actually be burnt with any consumer piece of equipment. But that's OK, a modded Wii U can boot games off USB.
@nobody8685
@nobody8685 3 жыл бұрын
That didn't do much because UMD discs can still be read with a normal DVD writer from a laptop or desktop. Still, it can't be completely copied because of the burned codes into the disc which are used to indentify where it was the disc created and when plus your own license key. That's the part which anyone can't copy by normal means. It's like trying to make a perfect copy of a 100$ paper. The processing method it's simply not possible to be made at home, at least completely, but if there will be a way. We'll be able to make copies of all games from the earliest consoles up to PlayStation 5 and Xbox.
@aqee1
@aqee1 4 жыл бұрын
GameCube: Our discs are small to prevent piracy. Rom Pages: Allow us to introduce ourselves
@chen2win
@chen2win 4 жыл бұрын
Aqee1 did you steal the idea from me? You have 12 likes I have like 1
@aqee1
@aqee1 4 жыл бұрын
Leafswift nope didn’t see yur comment mate
@aqee1
@aqee1 4 жыл бұрын
Leafswift also jus found yurs and it’s edited what’s goin on r yu tryna make me look like I’m copyin yu kmt
@chen2win
@chen2win 4 жыл бұрын
Aqee1 I just saw this, I made the edit like 5 minutes after I commented, I like to check my comments likes and found yours
@jsmliu2003
@jsmliu2003 4 жыл бұрын
Mini DVDs: Hey.
@NanaKyoto
@NanaKyoto 10 ай бұрын
Have you heard of the VideoNow player? Those had discs larger than GameCube discs, but still smaller than full-size DVDs, I think Nintendo should have went with the same disc size (as in, measurements/dimensions) as the VideoNow discs (it would have greatly helped with storage limitations, especially if it was made dual layer capable)
@amot_i
@amot_i 4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo was trying to avoid piracy, but it kind of screwed them up with 3rd party developers
@cysper4703
@cysper4703 4 жыл бұрын
They're screwed up with 3rd Party Developers since Nintendo 64. Nintendo still sticking their a--es on Cartridges makes a lot of pain in the a-- for Developers to makes games for N64 coz Cartridges are pretty limited on File Storage Size. That's why they just made games for PlayStation instead.
@danielnidhiry5796
@danielnidhiry5796 3 жыл бұрын
@@cysper4703 Yeah but they resolved it with Nintendo switch
@useruan
@useruan 4 жыл бұрын
They made them small so people wouldn’t pirate them which backfired horribly that is why the gamecube kind of failed
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood 4 жыл бұрын
VirtualBoy:Allow me to introduce myself
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood 4 жыл бұрын
@@camthesaxman3387 yeah they were like 500 dollars
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood 4 жыл бұрын
@Stealphie what wasent also its been 4 months
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood 4 жыл бұрын
@Stealphie Bruh they where 300 dollars in the 200s but in todays money its 500
@jimmymyers
@jimmymyers 3 жыл бұрын
I paid $30 for a gamecube at gamestop in like 2009 or so and it came with the Wavebird bundled with it. Later got the gameboy player but I sold it all and I regret it because it took me buying 3 different gamecubes to find one that worked again.
@shakeyframe2330
@shakeyframe2330 3 жыл бұрын
GameCube games have something called the "burst cut" area near the center ring of the disc that the console uses to detect if it's a legitimate game or not. Normal CD / DVD burners are incapable or recreating the burst cut area on the disc through normal means, since the burst cut area was essentially built into the disc itself at the factory.
@larba200
@larba200 2 жыл бұрын
From Wikipedia: “It was chosen by Nintendo to prevent copyright infringement of its games, to reduce manufacturing costs compared to Nintendo 64 Game Paks, and to avoid licensing fees to the DVD Forum.”
@rockyramsy
@rockyramsy 4 жыл бұрын
It's Nintendo's paranoia, they do these things just to be different and they thought at the time that people won't be able to copy those discs. It was only a year or two when mini discs became commercial. As for disc size compared to box don't get me started about the switch and ps vita cards and their boxes
@jrob0021
@jrob0021 4 жыл бұрын
Lol true, I forgot how large those cases are, compared to the cartridge size
@cysper4703
@cysper4703 4 жыл бұрын
Mini Discs are more less sized on Storage than GameCube Discs. GameCube Discs are pretty up to 1 - 2 Gigabytes.
@Maxmartin12355
@Maxmartin12355 4 жыл бұрын
The gamecube had a great game case i like that i can read everything on the back and the manual also fits also some games had 2 disks
@alvarochaves1999
@alvarochaves1999 6 ай бұрын
Resident Evil 4 is one of them.
@alvarochaves1999
@alvarochaves1999 6 ай бұрын
@@Maxmartin12355 The right word is discs, not disks.
@Clacker7
@Clacker7 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why Nintendo made gamecube discs small is to prevent copyright infringement of their games.
@gdogg4711
@gdogg4711 4 жыл бұрын
Just goes with the theme of the game cube. Tiny console, Tiny disk.
@hazeultragaming701
@hazeultragaming701 4 жыл бұрын
I just got back from buying a used psp for $50 I love it
@tchanel8277
@tchanel8277 4 жыл бұрын
Retroooo :)
@ps-lover8380
@ps-lover8380 4 жыл бұрын
Last year I bought PS2 and PSP
@hazeultragaming701
@hazeultragaming701 4 жыл бұрын
Nice I still got my old ps2 I took apart cleaned it sounds new and the psp is model 1000 very retro💯👌🏽
@boredpeep
@boredpeep 4 жыл бұрын
Good buy
@1atem
@1atem 4 жыл бұрын
I collect handhelds that are modern 2000's and up. I got both of the psp models the glass/plastic one and the full plastic one. 50€ for a psp seems expensive ngl. I had mine psp from 2011 the glass one which I got for 100€ back then and I got the other one for parts for 5€ from a friend since it was broken. If you got games/accessories with it then fine but the console by itself is kinda overpriced for 50€
@lancepelissier5510
@lancepelissier5510 3 жыл бұрын
I read that like the Wii disk it was it was Nintendo's own version of DVD-ROM to matan control; like the Wii U disk was Nintendo's version of Blu-ray rom for the same rezone.
@Trinnitus
@Trinnitus 3 жыл бұрын
They used to make to them small to prevent piracy copies of the games
@goopyhead
@goopyhead 4 жыл бұрын
obviously its because instead of having a big mouth the gamecube has a small mouth used as a disc slot so nintendo has to shrink the discs smh
@ARIGHETTI
@ARIGHETTI 4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo always wants to be different which backfired because it's one of lowest selling consoles!!
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood
@PupleKoolAidInDaHood 4 жыл бұрын
The virtual boy?
@keithmounirmanjoorsa4997
@keithmounirmanjoorsa4997 2 жыл бұрын
It's so small to avoid piracy, but it backfired because some games that could fit in one disc on dvd (normal) format, requires, 3 to 4 disc on the Gam Cube's optical disc.
@jmb.88
@jmb.88 Жыл бұрын
1 - To prevent piracy in 2001. 2 - With a proprietary disc they didn't need to pay fees to the DVD companies which were owners of the standard DVD format. 3 - Faster loading times because the console reads less data (it reads 1.5GB instead of 4.5 GB). If you had one file at a 1.5GB size and another one at a 4.5GB size to be transferred to your computer, which one of them would be transferred faster? The smaller one. That's the point. Having a small disc optimizes the software because the files inside it have to be smaller, compact. A GameCube with a 4.5GB disc capacity would produce longer loading times than the PS2. 4 - To reduce the cost of the console unit. A videogame console with a standard 4.5GB dvd drive needs to have enough internal space to accomodate it and the machine would be bigger because of it. I think Nintendo succeded in reducing the costs of each unit because it is a cheaper and smaller drive that only reads game software. When GameCube launched it was the cheaper console in the market costing 199 dollars.
@Mike-77-YT
@Mike-77-YT 4 жыл бұрын
here are my thoughts on the GameCube discs. 1: size. while not very common, but much so for instructional videos, MiniDVDs (search minidvd techmoan) were actually standard DVD discs, but smaller, the same size as a mini cd single. 2: boxing. In the US and UK market nintendo, like other companies, opted to use A Maray to produce the official boxes. My theory is that they did this to make the boxes uniform to DVD movie boxes. However, in Japan, they sold their games in smaller boxes, compared to the western market. 3: Piracy. Nintendo acknowledged that the vast majority of pirated games came on full-size discs, so they opted the GameCube to accept only miniDVD discs (of their own format). it is evident that on all Nintendo optical discs, they have a barcode etched in the first main sectors, that verify the region code. If you tried inserting a wii disc into a dvd player or drive, or whatever, the drive would read the disc correctly, until it reads the barcode, therefore, making the drive report the disc as 'unreadable' and immediately cancel reading, and ejecting the disc. only drives licensed by Nintendo will read that barcode correctly. Sidenote: while piracy on the GameCube wasn't easy, it also wasn't impossible either, since there are 'camcorder DVDs' or mini-DVD-R (there may also be a +R variant), but they apparently cost more than standard DVD +/-R, due to camcorders being a lackluster market. 4: space. Japanese home owners are keener on purchasing smaller players and appliances, as they will fit much easily in their homes, larger consoles such as the XBOX and original XBOX ONE cannot sell in Japan in large quantities; it's just too large for Japanese homes. Smaller consoles, such as the GameCube (there's also XBOX series X/S which sold out in Japan, unexpectedly), for example, sell better in Japan because of their smaller form factor, fitting in their homes.
@IAmComicallyCartoonyYKnow
@IAmComicallyCartoonyYKnow Жыл бұрын
im suprised they can fit a big high quality game in that tiny little disc in the first place.
@Mike-77-YT
@Mike-77-YT Жыл бұрын
@@IAmComicallyCartoonyYKnow efficient use of storage is paramount for most games.
@Loanshark753
@Loanshark753 7 ай бұрын
I actually had a ps2 minidvd game.
@Qbxyz-_l
@Qbxyz-_l Жыл бұрын
For some reason, Nintendo did solved the problem with mini disc since they used small disc due to privacy which backfired for third party companies. Because of the PS2 having DVD playback Nintendo released a type of GameCube known as Panasonic Q, or just Q. The Q had DVD playback, GameCube support, and played CD's which could've helped Nintendo, and was a little larger than the original GameCube, requiring to have it's own Gameboy player, plus it included it's own remote control for DVD, and a GameCube controller saying Panasonic Q. However this was only released in Japan, so there's region lock, and sold poorly going to hundreds of dollars used. While the ones that are new go for thousands of dollars. They could've done this in the US, but couldn't due to some trouble. If you want to know more about this, I recommend gaming historian.
@lopony7944
@lopony7944 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that they weren't trying to compete in the DVD player aspect... THATS 74% OF WHAT I WANTED BACK THEN
@doodlememes
@doodlememes 4 жыл бұрын
its because people don't piraite the discs and hack the gamecube
@sagamappersmasea9365
@sagamappersmasea9365 4 жыл бұрын
its because nintendo avoided privacy, although the data isn't as powerful as regular discs
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 4 жыл бұрын
Please do why are 3ds case too big and the same for the switch.
@travisanderson9590
@travisanderson9590 4 жыл бұрын
You should have opened the shell of the GameCube and then put the normal sized disks in
@cad3n.m1n3r6
@cad3n.m1n3r6 4 жыл бұрын
What’s is the stream app called on iOS
@chen2win
@chen2win 4 жыл бұрын
On a real note, the disk were made small to prevent piracy Rom Sites: Hold my beer
@cysper4703
@cysper4703 4 жыл бұрын
It's easy to rip games on a GameCube Disc but it's hard to burn one.
@UlisesC005
@UlisesC005 4 жыл бұрын
I have crash tag team racing for the GameCube
@Dragonborn-dc4uj
@Dragonborn-dc4uj 4 жыл бұрын
It was used to combat piracy and the disc size was shortened to make sure of that (disc size still bigger than the dreamcast) since you can’t just buy those DVD’s anywhere for 100 DVD’s for 20 quid and people just go down to a pirate website and download Roma and burn it to a cd then bring all your old games down to GAME (gameshop in the UK) then get cash to buy more DVD’s to pirate games
@instahawk8422
@instahawk8422 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s a way to get around it you did it in the video just put your gamecube discs in a wii or wii u game box it has the space for the bigger disc but can still be used only if you like things neat and tidy it will irritate you seeing a small disc in a big space like that
@Pleyer7575lol
@Pleyer7575lol Жыл бұрын
Nintendo We use mini dvd for copy protection Blank mini dvd-r: exists
@PinoyBowlerGS92
@PinoyBowlerGS92 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why the cases are big because incase some games does come a Memory Card
@handheldnintendofan
@handheldnintendofan 3 жыл бұрын
Some games came with 2 discs I think I know I just bought pac man world 2 and I got a bonus exclusive game just for the gamecube version
@elpinchevirus
@elpinchevirus 9 ай бұрын
The minidisc is a proprietary format that not require to pay royalties for dvd patent (sony) also it would make more difficult to piracy
@a.ncrossing4831
@a.ncrossing4831 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion GameCube discs are small because as the console was released in 2001, the technology wasn't that digital as it is now. Or it could be small because the GameCube is a cube size and an normal DVD, or a Wii game won't fit. Probably they made the disc small because when Nintendo were designing the console to be a cube shape basically small discs are beneficial, or maybe they made it small so it's ease of storage.
@twitsrandomizerer456
@twitsrandomizerer456 2 жыл бұрын
The GameCube discs are in a miniDVD based format
@stanleybowman-hood6194
@stanleybowman-hood6194 4 жыл бұрын
I was asking this while I was playing on my wii
@PinoyBowlerGS92
@PinoyBowlerGS92 4 жыл бұрын
Pirated Games are illegal and good thing Nintendo had its own priority to prevent people making pirated games rather than making their games out of CD, DVD or Blu-ray and Nintendo is a Fully Game Company, not a Game Company with Different Formats for Different Non Gaming Systems. Also Nintendo is being innovative and experimenting on different ways to play your games. I love Nintendo.
@flamestoyershadowkill
@flamestoyershadowkill 2 жыл бұрын
it is not illegal to copy the disk's data or emulated, redistribuution iswhat is illegal.
@moxty2795
@moxty2795 3 жыл бұрын
No USB No DVD NO Hacking
@nintendofan2k523
@nintendofan2k523 4 жыл бұрын
I know why because to avoid people pirating
@LetsFourPlay1
@LetsFourPlay1 3 ай бұрын
the box was that big so it would match those of the competition's. its just a marketing decision.
@Temporaryusername-i4h
@Temporaryusername-i4h Жыл бұрын
It's physically smaller than a floppy disk
@He3dshot
@He3dshot 4 жыл бұрын
My name is jeff
@janchristensen9858
@janchristensen9858 2 жыл бұрын
I have a GameCube that fits full size disc "12cm"
@markmeadows7093
@markmeadows7093 16 күн бұрын
They had to compress the games to get them to fit.
@nadiralmarzouki2474
@nadiralmarzouki2474 3 жыл бұрын
Adapt to size of console + eliminate piracy back then
@runawayniger7880
@runawayniger7880 4 жыл бұрын
Small disks actually became their downfall because at the time it was less efficient
@ZeroWind2014
@ZeroWind2014 4 жыл бұрын
they do it because of SUPER copy protection
@clockyplayz6081
@clockyplayz6081 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why but i was so scared of the disk
@gta6470
@gta6470 4 жыл бұрын
They made the discs small to avoid piracy
@Diamond20004
@Diamond20004 Жыл бұрын
I always wonder that too
@kathyfargo2082
@kathyfargo2082 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you leaving that disc on the ground? You know it will get scratched
@timclark8490
@timclark8490 Жыл бұрын
Wow, can you use the word “BUY” a few more times LOL
@BoredTomcat9774
@BoredTomcat9774 4 жыл бұрын
They do it to avoid piracy
@MeowieGamer2
@MeowieGamer2 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an anti piracy measure
@ronnyrrr932
@ronnyrrr932 4 жыл бұрын
I think the other disks are just big
@jrob0021
@jrob0021 4 жыл бұрын
I never thought of it that way
@ronnyrrr932
@ronnyrrr932 4 жыл бұрын
Jacob R well know u did
@ronnyrrr932
@ronnyrrr932 4 жыл бұрын
Jacob R change the title to why are game cube discs normal size and the other disks are big
@ronnyrrr932
@ronnyrrr932 4 жыл бұрын
Strange things are happening to Woody it’s what happens when u are weird
@padawanjesus
@padawanjesus 2 жыл бұрын
its to make it harder to pirate
@bird_gang_az9598
@bird_gang_az9598 4 жыл бұрын
I literally just bought a GameCube for 80$ I scored!
@lilgemini4032
@lilgemini4032 2 жыл бұрын
PSP disc is even more smaller
@blooder81
@blooder81 4 жыл бұрын
sony minidisc, sony umd.....................
@ZeroWind2014
@ZeroWind2014 4 жыл бұрын
also psp have small disc
@veryrealac0c0unt
@veryrealac0c0unt 4 жыл бұрын
disc
@RocketRidge
@RocketRidge 4 жыл бұрын
nintendo is not like the other girls...
@jamesburke2759
@jamesburke2759 4 жыл бұрын
im not sure if you made this as a joke or a real video because you bring up too many good points to be fake f:D
@CMILF
@CMILF 4 жыл бұрын
Huh
@LegionOfWorldWarriors
@LegionOfWorldWarriors 4 жыл бұрын
It makes me cringe that you are trying to put a big disc on a small disc player.
@LegionOfWorldWarriors
@LegionOfWorldWarriors 4 жыл бұрын
Plus you are nitpicking.
@doodlememes
@doodlememes 4 жыл бұрын
im subscribed
@jrob0021
@jrob0021 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@supersonicfan0936
@supersonicfan0936 4 жыл бұрын
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@funtimesylas1
@funtimesylas1 4 жыл бұрын
im the 40 like lol
@doodlememes
@doodlememes 4 жыл бұрын
im also early
@biamdagoat771
@biamdagoat771 4 жыл бұрын
I’m early
@alexanderfilmit
@alexanderfilmit 4 жыл бұрын
1st
@kacpercebulak3671
@kacpercebulak3671 4 жыл бұрын
Ououp
@quadagon1505
@quadagon1505 4 жыл бұрын
9th
@gustrrer2409
@gustrrer2409 4 жыл бұрын
30th like
@william1-y6j
@william1-y6j Жыл бұрын
I think the cases were big because it would stick out on store shelves
@7531monkey
@7531monkey 4 жыл бұрын
Why ask why? Bud Dry!
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