Why are governments and administrations NOT moving to Linux?

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You might have wondered why public administrations don't all use Linux, like the Police, the tax services, the health services, and all other government related agencies. It's completely free of charge, really customizable, secure and stable. There shouldn't be any kind of competition, right? Well, turns out there might be a bunch of barriers to entry, so let's see why our governments don't use our favorite OS.
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There is a heavy lobby in place for Microsoft and their solutions. These guys are entrenched in virtually every market, they have money, influence.
But that's not the only reason why most countries do NOT run on open source software and Linux.
Training
The second main obstacle is training. As simple as Linux desktops have become, they will still be unfamiliar to regular users that have been trained on Windows since they were in school. You can replicate a windows, or mac os layout, and that would ease the transition, but there are still major differences in how the file system is laid out, how settings are displayed, what settings you can access, and how the system behaves.
Then there's the app issues. Most governments and administrations run on windows + office. Some have departments that use Adobe products. All of these are not available on Linux, so you also have to train your people to use new applications.
Hidden costs
On top of these training costs, you also have some hidden ones. Linux might have gotten way better at hardware support, but it's still not perfect. Some hardware doesn't have good drivers, printers and printer / scanner combos can still be an issue for example, and these are extremely costly devices.
An administration might have to replace tons of hardware, computers and peripherals to make the switch.
There's also the issue of custom software that administrations might use: these are usually old pieces of software that were designed to run on Windows XP on in IE with ActiveX controls. These don't run on Linux natively. They might run with Wine, or they might have to be ported.
These hidden costs are a barrier to moving to Linux and open source apps, and can even make the migration completely fail if they're not identified at the start.
Lack of knowledge
There is also a huge lack of knowledge about Linux in general in public administrations. Few people know that Linux exist, or that it can even run on a desktop and isn't limited to servers.
The people that make these kind of decisions, like moving to Windows 10 instead of Windows 8, or using Office instead of something else, they are generally not the most tech savvy persons in existence, that's not their jobs, they're managers, directors.
So Linux is probably way under the radar for them.
Wrong choices
But, there have been experiments with Linux. Some administrations have moved to Linux based OSes, like the city of Munich, which moved to Linux, then back to Windows, then back to Linux again.
China uses their own distro on a lot of government computers, the French gendarmerie uses Linux since Vista came out, and schools in Iceland have moved to Ubuntu Linux in the past.
Some of these experiments have failed though, and I think there is a simple reason for that. Well, 2 reasons.
The first one is probably poor execution. If you just replace the OS with Linux, and MS Office with LibreOffice and Evolution, without training, without thinking how to move people over and train them, of course it's going to fail, people are going to complain, and 5 years later, you're going back to windows.
There is also the fact that most administrations decided to move to a custom linux distro. Munich moved to LiMux, based on Debian. The city of Vienna moved to Wienux, based on Debian. Russia and China use their own Linux distros.
I personally think the right solution is to use something that's available out of the box, like ubuntu, openSUSE, or red hat. Something that has commercial support, and that will still cost way less than Windows, and something where you don't have to manage updating the distro and then deploying it.

[@electricmiragemedia]

Fed contractor here: other than the reasons you gave, it's basically word, onedrive/SharePoint, and the fact that a lot of people working in government are barely able to do basic tasks in Windows

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Yeah training all that personnel is going to be tough

[@perforongo9078]

Windows is much more familiar to most people. In order to get more people and governments to switch to Linux, Linux developers would have to make their software more intuitive and user-friendly to make up for the lack of familiarity. Except most of them would much rather chew their own arm off than do that.

[@entelin]

@@perforongo9078 Regular users don't use software that falls into that category. I mean double click on chrome, it opens, it works... ok what's the issue again? The core issue for most industries is the lack of industry specific commercial software. AutoCAD doesn't run on linux, Photoshop and 3dsmax don't run on linux, etc. However with increasing numbers of applications transitioning to web based platforms, the transition becomes easier. Regardless, the transition to linux will not be driven from the USA, but rather it's adversary's and other governments who don't want to be dependent on a closed source solution from their rivals. This in turn will eventually create a momentum that causes major software vendors to adopt linux, consumers in those counties to do the same, and ultimately trickles back to the US eventually killing off windows entirely once even consumer applications and games wind up needing to support it to secure sales overseas.

[@electricmiragemedia]

@@TheLinuxEXP also, word is a barrier at the individual level rather than just organizational. I literally have to use word to do what I need to do at work. Teams, slack, and everything else I need for my job is on Linux, but not word/office. And I am pretty sure it's deliberate.

[@realtimestatic]

@@perforongo9078 Linux is already more intuitive and the layout can be made to be pretty similar to windows

[@anandu6859]

In Kerala (a state in India), we use customized Linux distributions for government purposes. For example, in education sector, we use a customized version of Ubuntu 18.04 and all the computers in schools are installed with it. We teaches all the students how to use Linux instead of Windows and saved over $400 Million.

[@valerafox7795]

😲😲😲😯😮😮

[@yoplait3256]

actually pretty neat, I bet kids there could probably learn programming and other tech jobs pretty easier if they learn about the command line properly in school

[@Gokul_Yt]

@@yoplait3256 yes there is a special club for students called Littile kites where they teach programming (Scratch&python) animation (Kden live, blender, tupi tube) malayalam typing (our native language) and robotics and ai with Raspi

[@2022_temporary]

True ♥️♥️♥️

[@user-ty2fd5nu6u]

400 million :O

[@shaheerk]

In India, most of the govt uses Ubuntu. In school, we were taught how to use Linux and open source apps like LibreOffice, Gimp etc..

[@unomenah]

No, India is windows user.not ubuntu

[@valerafox7795]

@@unomenah I mostly saw India users using Linux and free software . .also some vids were lots of Indian Linux devs present. What you can say?

[@Gokul_Yt]

@@unomenah you got miss information pal.

[@2022_temporary]

Only in Kerala i know. Please tell us what's the situation in other states

[@2022_temporary]

@@Gokul_Yt oh I see !! 😲 Which subject is it ? Cuz i never knew that NCERT had text books on computer science, that's why. Was Linux used in your schools ? my govt school ( KV NTPC from Kerala ) didn't cuz why should they ? It is so great for Kerala IT department to embrace FOSS and Linux on offices and schools and syllabus. Also what was your syllabus btw as well ?

[@barrystan91]

Considering there are staff out there who think turning the monitor on/off restarts the PC, the training element is by far the biggest hurdle to overcome

[@JoelFeila]

ok funnny story one of my friends in IT department was going around charging monitors. He got to his bosses office and she said "Don't change that yet my files are open". So he politely nods and hold a usb drive up to the air vent counts to 30. Swaps the monitors out, and hold the usb drive up the the new monitor. 2 weeks latter she come into his office saying "you made me look like an idiot".

[@xrafter]

@@JoelFeila Didn't understand . But cool story

[@raandomplayer8589]

@@xrafter yeah me too

[@raandomplayer8589]

@@JoelFeila try Google translate. It's ok your English was very good. I'm ESL it might be my fault.

[@JoelFeila]

@@raandomplayer8589 I'm a native English speaker

[@aaronaustrie]

I feel schools, in general, should introduce Linux to students who want to pursue an IT or Computer Science major!

[@MrMediator24]

Here in Russia I had classes on Linux in uni (they were quite a breeze for me coz used it on my laptop for quite some time)

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

Wish I had that in school

[@puspamadak]

I am angry on my school for teaching with Windows primarily and introducing all sorts of pirated softwares such as Photoshop. Linux adoption is increasing at a fast pace here in India, and almost all of the village schools are teaching Linux!

[@samuelitooooo]

Agreed. Libraries should follow suit.

[@yarmand]

I'm sorry, I think you arguments are coming 10 years too late. In today corporate and administrative world, the OS of individual workstation do not matter too much. What matters is the fleet management, cloud data, identity and rights management. On all those front, Linux itself do not offer anything, and it is normal as an OS. But it does not either integrate very well with industry standard like Microsoft365 or google enterprise. I think this is the reason for the lack of adoption.... And probably a business opportunity. From where I stand, I love Linux for my application servers but as a desktop for pro work, it doesn't meet the bar.

[@ahmet05ac]

3:40 microsoft has always been silent about pirated windows for home users just for this. to establish windows habit. they didnt get a license price but in a long term they earned much more customers

[@truongtongquang295]

@justan idiot KMPico one file cmd done. I am dual boot win+ ubuntu, i privated windows 10 in 2019 and let it update monthly.

[@abucket3915]

And also there's ads on the start menu so even if it's pirated they have revenue(this is just a guess).

[@nellos4ever]

I came here for this comment !! Thank you!

[@PopatMomu]

@@truongtongquang295 😂😂😂 majority people does same thing 😂😂😂

[@rahulmathew8713]

True, most use priated windows in India for ages and now every 90s kid is a windows customer lol.

[@pepitofernando]

I always hear about training. I work as IT support and to be fair typical users have little to no idea of what they are doing. If you replace Windows with Linux, 99% of the people will still need support for almost every task... It is a matter of inertia...

[@riseabove3082]

This is so true. A lot of users do not know the difference between a reboot or restart (same thing) or a shutdown let alone how to do it. If it's not pinned to the desktop or taskbar they don't know how to find it from the Start menu. When a user has to access some mainframe server using blah application they don't know the difference between the two.

[@luwkrabbit]

I'm also in IT and I concur with this.

[@nymusicman]

@@riseabove3082 This is actually where KDE Plasma shines. Right there, on the bottom of the menu, in full words are Restart, Shutdown.

[@louistournas120]

@@nymusicman That's where Win 95, Win 98, Win Me, Win NT 4.0, Win 2000 shined and then the Win XP GUI went into hidden mode or was it Win Vista (I am talking about the Control Panel). Some additions that MS made to Win Vista was fine but it was mostly moving things around and changing the look. It was change for change sake. Win 8 and 10 are even worst. They moved things around but the OS is still an OS. They added advertisements, the MS store, automatic updates. There is not much room for improvements anymore.

[@n.miller907]

I'd like to take things even one step further: job security. Why would IT personnel get rid of their bread and butter? Windows has so many security issues and bugs, it guarantees a lifetime of employment. Plain and simple.

[@quantumac]

As a retired software developer who worked in the public sector, I can say Linux is used in science and even military applications. Not all applications, of course, but some crucial ones.

[@brettsjoholm]

You don't have to install solitaire... Lol

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Hahaha fortunately

[@gosth81]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@KumarAshish99]

Fortunately for them, Ubuntu comes with advanced in-built Solitaire capability!

[@avadrumm]

Fedora kde has kpatience preinstalled with 12 different game modes of solitaire

[@thanhvinhnguyento7069]

Windows 10 doesn't have solitaire

[@villageracademy4815]

I think it is important to do the transition step by step.... such as.. 1. Make the daily-use programs web-based (Chrome/FF) 2. Use open format 3. then change the OS

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Yeah, there are steps to the process, and Linux just isn’t a drop in replacement

[@softwarelivre2389]

And cross-platform software too. For example: government social media using Inkscape even on Windows instead of Illustrator or Affinity, so that if the transition is ever made, it will be far closer to being seamless.

[@christopherf8160]

Personally, I started using open office instead of word/excel. No reason our government couldn't do that immediately. I'm not sure what most governments are using for email. No reason they could not use web based secure email. But there are some proprietary accounting programs which would need some close examination.

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@christopherf8160 Is OpenOffice still developed? I thought the developers had moved to LibreOffice instead. I use OnlyOffice btw

[@engelsteinberg593]

I really hate the step 1.

[@SerdceDanko]

Here in Russia we use our own distributive called Astra Linux, it was specifically developed to use in government facilities.

[@lmnk]

Not sure abt Moscow oblast, but here in Novosibirsk I didn't see ANY government-related personal computers running any Linux distro, just regular Windows 10 or 7 everywhere (and some of them are not activated, lmao)

[@randomname2437]

@@lmnk they all use windows 10 where I live

[@lmnk]

@@randomname2437 lemme guess, Moscow?

[@randomname2437]

@@lmnk no

[@valerafox7795]

@@randomname2437 that's mostly about the general usage .(( bcs ofc we all were teached to pirate win 7 and that's just in our blood ()(

[@kanga2566]

The point about a lack of Linux training is extremely true from my experience. I have taken two separate Linux courses in the past (one of which is a college course), and for both classes, even the instructor was not qualified to teach about Linux and always ended up shifting the focus of the class towards literally anything. The instructor for the first class even said "Just take the exam, I'll give you an A no matter what you get because I don't know much about Linux."

[@escapetherace1943]

LOL

[@colbyboucher6391]

College in a nutshell right there

[@CoasterMan13Official]

Let me guess, community college?

[@yuork375]

As an information, the brazilian government migrated to Linux in 2006. But recently started to transition back to Windows due to... well, that sweet licensing money.

[@SunIsLost]

:-(

[@Vindix007]

BR sendo BR.

[@florianfelix8295]

well THIS is why you should get bolsonaro out lol

[@SunIsLost]

@@florianfelix8295 yes, good point

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@florianfelix8295 actually there are so many reasons to take him out that this one gets down below on the list. Dude can't wear a fucking mask wtf

[@h3ftymouse]

Petition for Nick to do an entire episode in thicc French accent EDIT: I just remembered that my school's syllabus has now replaced Windows and Office with Ubuntu and LibreOffice for all grades, glad to see even young children learning free software from the start

[@gettriggered_ian3269]

Yes

[@j_rryplays8038]

@Lennart Odeberg its a language that originated from europe though

[@jaorlowski]

yes. On his Onlyfans account, should windows use the linux kernel ;-)

[@man-with-a-plan]

Are you a mallu ?

[@h3ftymouse]

@@man-with-a-plan No

[@wulidi]

20+ years back, I had to compile a Linux sound driver myself to even listen something, so fundamental..... Today Linux has lead a light year and on par with Windows/Mac, from pure OS stand points.

[@louistournas120]

Today, some website asked me to compile xar. I think it is a decompressor or something. It didn't work since dependencies were missing. It's the usual dependency hell on Linux where 1 software needs 20 libraries. Just tell me where to get the fricking executable and where to put it.

[@dankspider6854]

@@louistournas120 I'm confident you can use tar to compress/decompress xar archives.

[@mexodroid1848]

Not really. I wanted to install Waterfox on Linux Mint and I spent 20 mins just trying. Desktop Linux is ironically a walled garden like iPhone. If it is not on app store or repo you need to suffer (almost feels like jailbreak) to get something installed.

[@xxnoxx-xp5bl]

@@mexodroid1848 Ubuntu is even worse - it used to be my go-to but now I stick to Mint.

[@louistournas120]

@@dankspider6854 No, this xar thing is something else. It uses OpenSSL, I think version 1.02. Also, I was going to use it on a Mac OSX image that I downloaded from Apple. I need to convert it into an image so that I can write it to a USB stick, then I will install on some mac laptop someone gave me.

[@radiotec76]

I worked at NASA and outside of Mission Control, where a Windows server failure would potentially mean dead astronauts so UNIX was relied on instead, the bulk of JSC ran on Windows and Apple Macs.

[@johnrieley1404]

US is backwards, even in science. In 1959 teacher told us we would be metric soon. Haha

[@radiotec76]

@@johnrieley1404 I heard it in 1975 too. The U.S. was supposed to be on the metric system by 1980.

[@clifflogan7974]

I wouldn't say backwards, that is not only false but misleading. The US is a global leader in science and tech inovation. All scientific fields in the US use the metric system first. Even in my job we use only metric and it is a US based company. It is just difficult for adoption in the average household but in the end, why does that matter? Other than the quick stab for a joke, there isn't a need for metric in everyday use when imperial works fine. Its just a matter of preference. I use imperial but can easily use metric. It doesn't matter to me and I really don't care.

[@carbondated6151]

@@clifflogan7974 Even in Canada, India, South Africa, Australia and the US most household and food products are sold with imperial / metric labels. I found it was easier to learn math for electronics when using metrics and scientific notation.

[@taekwondostars]

I am from Turkey and we actually have a distro called Pardus, which is getting more and more popular among the public buildings due to low spec computers and the appeal of not leaving any traces of sensetive information.

[@SunIsLost]

Yes

[@YM-kn1qz]

Yea I tried Pardus. From a daily simple user point of view I never understood why they felt the need for creating their own distro. Anyways I currently am using Fedora serves my needs

[@siclucealucks]

with erdogans backdoors?

[@YM-kn1qz]

@@siclucealucks not really, the source code is public and looked it up, found nothing. I think you should be more worried about the big tech companies collecting your data instead of a Turkish president

[@vasopel]

hey I didn't know about Pardus, looked it up and it looks like a great OS, way to go neighbors (I am greek) good job! ;-)

[@Blueeeeeee]

"The lack of knowledge [that Linux exists] is killing linux [adoption]" - THAT.

[@eduardosanchezbarrios5810]

Agree that's the real issue and general people Is lazy to learn something new

[@babyyoda1968]

@@eduardosanchezbarrios5810 it also does not help linux is not exactly “average joe friendly”. I mean look at the root file structure for god sakes... even though I prefer it, i can perfectly understand the average joe liking windows more

[@Blueeeeeee]

@@okene To be fair I would say Linux has come a long way. User friendly ? Maybe not, but it's getting close

[@unownunown1530]

@@Blueeeeeee once you learn the bare minimum of how to operate in a linux-distro its way more user-friendly than windows

[@BytebroUK]

I kind of see that as being 'self-fixing', just because over time several of the techies on the team who understand the advantages will become senior enough to be able to influence those decisions. I'm kind of an optimist, so I may well be wrong :)

[@InventorZahran]

The Russian army and the French Gendarmerie (national police) each have their own special Linux distro that they only distribute internally.

[@elha7982]

Also North Korea

[@Ne0kil]

I think you are forgetting a very important point. That is Integration. When you are using Windows with Office 365 you have everything from one Vendor it makes it very easy to integrate your stuff with one another. And I am sorry to say it, but there is no real Office-365-Alternative out there that can really compete with that complete suite of tools that it offers. Every tool by itself might have a replacement for Linux but they do not have this "universal" touch and feel where you can learn how to use one program and you will be able to use the others with ease. And when I think of many peoples struggle when switching from Windows XP to Windows 7, I don't think they will be able to handle a change to a decent linux system.

[@gearheadtoolnerd]

Google Workspace fills this void.

[@jorgeferreira6727]

Office tools are not the main tool in big public organizations. Most of the heavy lifting is done with specific tools tailored to the service. Currently most of those tools are server based with browser front-ends. And soon everything will be like it due to the need to make the services accessible online for the general public and the growing tendency for work from home solutions. So there is no real case against Linux at the workstation level.

[@RaymondBarbour]

"Goddammit Lynda, I told you 100 times, it's useradd, not adduser" 🤣

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Hahah this still trips me up

[@RaymondBarbour]

@@TheLinuxEXP I took a screenshot and sent it to my brother as we always have to Google the right one

[@Nunya58294]

There is a command called "adduaser". I've had to use it to add accounts to the sudoers file

[@PabloBianchiOK]

But is the other way around... why someone would use useradd instead of adduser!

[@skshms.1975]

Sauce?

[@tyler5888]

Working in a business environment, the hardest thing I see that would keep Linux adoption from a purely operational standpoint is Active Directory and Group Policy. With an office of a few dozen maybe it isn't such a big deal but with a few hundred, suddenly that wide sweeping authentication and management is critical. If anyone has any experience with open source alternatives, I'd love to hear about it.

[@MiningForPies]

Stop talking sense, it’s evil bogey men and deep state actors holding it back.

[@erenwayne]

Idk about Group Policy haven't tried implementing it yet on a GNU/Linux server but in my homelab I've set up Samba Active Directory which is open-source equivalent of Microsoft's AD on a Debian 10 Server. Correct me if I'm wrong I've just started diving in this free area I don't even know how to write iptables but would learn soon.

[@linuxretrogamer]

^This is the big reason. It's doable in Linux but it's no drop in replacement and require some major network emgineer retraining. These networks have been AD based since NT3.51 back in the early 90s.

[@CrypticConsole]

Group policy is included in Ubuntu by default

[@chaminda512]

@@CrypticConsole not as comprehensive as windows

[@MrSlm1982]

Great and true video. The only thing that is SLOWLY changing is the software portion. Since most things are turning into web/cloud base programs, this enables a lower barrier for that for software.

[@TheAkatran]

You spoke well Nick! That describes my everyday battles when the discussion goes to infrastructure. Also "Lobbying" is usually the greatest factor of all. You cannot fill pockets with air! On the other hand how can you convince someone that spend a big amount of money and time to leave their secure place (for something better in my opinion)!

[@MiniArts159]

All of John Deere's equipment runs on Windows CE 4, which hasn't been updated since 2013. ALL OF JOHN DEERE'S EQUIPMENT RUNS ON WINDOWS CE 4, WHICH HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2013.

[@hotrodjones74]

John Deere effing sucks! They are horrible offenders in the right to repair battle raging right now.

[@mattivirta]

ALL factory NOT use newer windows machine control. no newer because not have safe and stabile OS all use linux because have safe and stabile and no newer have problems.-

[@queenannsrevenge100]

I’ve seen textile companies running Windows 95 and OS/2 warp because that’s what their 20-year-old machines are controlled by - FULL STOP. Then again, there will come a point that the malware doesn’t run on win 95 or OS/2 either 😄

[@Roxor128]

This sounds like a rant I gave about IOT devices in a comment on someone else's video.

[@totalermist]

And the problem is what now? If it works for them, it works for them. Just a small reality check - I used to do consulting for a company that ran software from the 1980s on an IBM mainframe on an OS that didn't receive major updates in 14 years. Sometimes stuff just works and there's just no compelling reason to change it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "It's old!" isn't an argument that holds any weight on its own. Heck, the wheel was invented thousands of years ago, yet it's even become a proverb that reinventing it is a stupid idea.

[@jeremiasremix]

Linux is used in many public institutions here in Brazil. Actually, the plan, years ago, was to have a massive adoption, but it was mostly a failure due to lack of real investment.

[@mateusfelipecota]

Brazil still is one of the references countries in the free software law movement, the country has one of the most massive adoption of free software movement

[@foca2002]

As a network admin in a public institution with years of market experience in huge companies I can assure one of the reasons government institutions are so slow and unproductive is because of this. Just to make clear, because they use Linux they are so slow. It's not linux fault, but the way everything works in the government plus some of the shortcomings of Linux. When people comment in this type of video they think when a Huge company decides to use Windows they pay the same price a user would pay. Let's say a Windows License is US$200, if you buy 10 licenses is US$170 if you buy more probably US$150 or even lesse depends what more you bundle with this purchase. You bought office licenses too? Even cheaper, remote desktop licenses? More cheaper, Windows server and CALs? You pay less with every license you buy. And them comes the real price the price of support, you can pay for software assurance and support tickets while you are buying your licenses. Or even better you could buy your computer with Windows and support. Now imagine a small office with 50 employees which is more expensive: 50 Windows licenses costing US$130 each and US$6500 total, two Windows server licenses costing US$900 each US$1800 total, 50 licenses of Microsoft 365 each costing US$150 per year or US$7500. Plus a IT guy costing US$50.000 per year for a total of US$65.800. Or a Linux guy costing US$80.000 per year?

[@sanjios]

@@foca2002 Lets say Trump2 comes to power, and US declares (cold) war to Brazil. Goodbye everything you run on windows. All your data on google etc.

[@foca2002]

@@sanjios well United States declared war on Iraq two times, is enemy of Iran and China and Windows installations are still running. Microsoft opens Windows code for audit to governments you can look up.

[@thomasgessert8518]

In the end the only thing that counts ist time and money. In government the decision makers in many countries rule only 4 top 5 years. Any IT project in public administration for Linux will take a lot longer than that. Second, the life goes on, say new laws require new solutions, and requires manpower and budget. So who will decide to spent a lot of money in Linux transition and cease other projects, if you can make an undisputed decision to develop a solution based on Windows? Third, from my own experience, many commercial software ist only supported under a specfic distribution and with a third party software stack. Enterprise IT lives from standardization, not from having several ways to to the same. and finally, pleased don't compare OpenOffice or LibreOffice to M365 of today. Yes, IT Costs much more than the old way to buy an Office license for a given version and use it for 10 years, but it saved our asses (Personal view AS IT guy) in this COVID times because it made made mobile working much easier and faster to deploy. Still, we are using Linux on servers (VMs) too but this are mostly web applications developed for Linux.

[@unleashthedog]

This video brings me back. ~15 years ago I was enrolled in my Civil Service year and I worked closely with a local PA; I pondered the business opportunity of converting PAs to open source solutions. My idea to make a first dent in the system would have been to push adoption for Office alternatives first, offering not only installation and set up, but training and a "1-to- 1" support in converting their documents to open standards...

[@CallousCoder]

Printer support in Linux with cups is excellent! I am amazed what it can detect, even stuff where MS doesn't have any updated drivers for, cups will figure out what postscript to talk to it and it works! It's bizarre!

[@Blueeeeeee]

About training, I think the biggest part about this is the actual IT departments, not necessarily the users themselves. I heard Linux IT guys are usually more costly and hard to find than Windows IT guys

[@sagichdirdochnicht4653]

I can't imagine they are pricier, but certainly harder to find. Since most buisnesses and stuff use Windows, most Admins on the market are only experienced in setting stuff up in Windows, so that's that. But yeah, I don't think users would be the biggest problem either. The main obstacle is propably Microsoft Office, or better the lack of it. Long time Office Workers can be a BITCH when it comes to that. I remember, when MS released Word 2007, with the new (and 1000 times better) UI. They ranted and screemed like you've murdered their whole family, because for some reason they can't handle ANY change whatsoever. Forcing them to use an Alternative is TOUGH, because they simply can't be bothered to use a Tool with slightly different UI. Other then that however, not a big issue. The OS itself is absolutely no problem, login it works as usual, place the right icons on the right place, and that's about all.

[@alessandromauri93]

I have absolutely no idea how business choose software and how IT companies choose to develop solutions, but for example, I’ve been working on a chemical production plant, and for controlling the machines they were using Windows xp, but I can’t understand why this software was not system agnostic or working with a proprietary OS

[@paulg3336]

@@alessandromauri93 I service lab analysers. Most still use XP or Win7 to run the equipment. I have only encountered 2 systems using Unix like OS, one was using QNX and the one below uses Xubuntu (based in Brescia) www.copangroup.com/digital-microbiology/

[@0ctatr0n]

@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 I wonder if a bit of job loss fear would help adoption? We're Interviewing people today happy to use Linux and libreoffice, if you can't adapt then I guess..

[@alessandromauri93]

@@paulg3336 I don’t know if laugh or cry about it 😂😢 I think beat windows will be a long and hard way 😅

[@theNeuo13]

They should teach the employees how to use LibreOffice on windows first and then everything fall into place when switching to Linux desktop OS. Printers and Scanners are another issue. Generic drivers can provide basic functionality of these devices.

[@gold9994]

It sucks. Libre sucks.

[@raahimfareed]

@@gold9994 how so?

[@gold9994]

@@raahimfareed the layouts, it messed the entire documents, the spacings. Try wps office or onlyoffice instead, better reliability with microsoft office.

[@chrisbitus1328]

@@gold9994 If you know how to use libre office, then it wont suck. I mean, ODF format is there for a reason and MS Office supports it perfectly and vise versa. As for WPS Office, I personally found them spreading trojan through their updating system. They are a spyware that keeps evading all AV's because their main product is not a malware, but they deliver it. More like a backdoor. Better to use Libreoffice with ODF format and convet to PDF through the 'export to pdf' option. Works perfect.

[@gold9994]

@@chrisbitus1328 guess what, i never faced any problem with wps, be it virus, dataleaks or anything else. So, I'll stick with it in ubuntu and microsoft office in windows.

[@tonydyer2919]

Windows 11 and hardware requirements could tip the balance in Linux favour if the community can get its act together. Best approach would be something like Zorin. Just a thought.

[@Scheiseposter]

Let’s be honest here. It will not. Vista couldn’t do it, 8 couldn’t do it and 11 is objectivelly better than 10 in every way

[@InsidesGames]

@@Scheiseposter Huh? Windows 11 is abysmal 🤣. But I agree it still isn't going to tip the scales. The best thing happening in favour of Linux right now is the Steam Deck. It's a Linux handheld gaming PC. The more people buy it, the more important it becomes for game developers to natively support the Linux OS with their games. This could then push the OS out to more software developers and cause a domino effect. The Deck is already outselling expectations.

[@Scheiseposter]

@@InsidesGames Tech reviewers already are saying Steam Deck is meh :D like i was saying it would be since announcement. And yes, Win 11 is objectivelly better than Win 10, more stable too

[@radiotec76]

When Microsoft drops support for Windows 10 I'm changing my laptop from a dual boot system using CentOS 8 Stream dual boot on an external USB drive over to the internal hard drive Windows 10 resides.

[@xybersurfer]

but the Linux community won't get their act together, it's the same old story over and over again

[@rty1955]

I moved a 500 bed hospital to Linux in 1996 and they still use it today. My IT staff loved the change and the other staff had almost zero learning curve. Our custom HIS system is web based so no users noticed the switch. When lab & radiology systems didnt run on Linux, we rejected them from consideration. We had a windows only radiology system and we told them we were go I g to drop them if they cant make it work under Linux. My IT team assisted in getting it to work under Linux and we got 1 year free license for doing so. It was a MAJOR win ($$$) for the hospital too. It was a risky move but i got full support from the CFO & CEO

[@moritzm.3671]

Tbh. 1996 and 2023 are very different when it comes to switching IT systems. Software hasn't changed that much in the past years, so any change is going to be huge. If you just switched from DOS to Windows 3 and then to Windows 95 you are way more open to the idea of switching again than if you switched from Win 7 to 10 4 years ago and didn't change anything since then. Also there are a ton of different smaller issues, like the Excel file your department has been using for 20 years. It is definitely possible, but it is also definitely more difficult today.

[@rty1955]

@@moritzm.3671 totally disagree users have no idea of the underlying o/s. Even the GUI under Linux is very similar to Windoze. Switching today is much easier as most apps are web based and the majority of web servers ARE Linux. As far as any Excel files, they all run fine under Libreoffice.

[@MnemonicCarrier]

I have a very small business (a 200 room hotel). I stipulated all IT must be Linux. Was difficult at first because most of the reservation and payment software (and passport scanning software) is written for Windows. I have, however, managed to find alternatives for just about everything (including the passport scanning software). I wrote the reservation system myself (a web app, used PHP/MySQL/Apache). Does what I need it to do - can see where I am at any point in time from anywhere in the world. The only exception at the moment is the accountant (she uses some Windows only accounting software), but I'm going to change that very soon.

[@SunIsLost]

Yea, good :-)

[@realtimestatic]

You are very committed to this. Nice to see. Once more adopt this there should be more project for that stuff maybe. Anyways you could theoretically make the software you wrote FOSS which would be cool or leave it just for you and no one else or proprietary but FOSS would be the nicest

[@erenwayne]

You can try running that accounting software on Linux with Wine, well you can write your own programs then maybe you would've already tried that but a few days ago I was caught up with this same problem too but with a few workarounds I was able to migrate that organization's ERP Suite to Linux on Wine.

[@armannschelander2725]

I respect your commitment, well done

[@MnemonicCarrier]

@@armannschelander2725 It's not necessarily commitment - it's pragmatism. I don't have to worry about lengthy concerning pseudo legal terms and conditions and licensing fees, I don't have to worry about deployments and setting up new machines, I don't have to worry about staff visiting dodgy websites and being asked to install XYZ. I donate generously to all of the projects my business depends upon, and will do so each year (so long as I'm profitable - took a huge hit last year/this year due to irrational covid regulations rushed through - huge losses, so have had to really tighten my belt). Anyway, my main point is from my perspective, Linux (on the desktop and back-end) is a logical and practical decision/solution, and not one based on my love of Linux :)

[@lloritoovidexequield.8609]

Wait a minute, as far as I know: the USA Govt and Military uses GNU/Linux, specifically Red Hat Enterprise Linux on their systems. To expand, there's a list of them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters

[@soham7510]

I mean yeah military cant be dependent on a ill timed windows update that can cause global annihilation lol

[@kingofgamesyamiyami6269]

@@soham7510 Enterprise Windows doesn't have forced updates. WSUS exists for exactly this reason.

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Thanks for the link. It's really informative.

[@deoxal7947]

Sure for critical systems and servers but for office PCs? They do love their MS Office Products. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i37SfX6Cgp2Gg8k&google_comment_id=UgwnCM7RJPrZScxy8Yh4AaABAg The Air Force actually makes their distro www.gettens.online/

[@soham7510]

@@kingofgamesyamiyami6269 i was joking -_-

[@yadaKiKhula]

Some government offices in India are also switching to Linux based OSes from what I heard. They even have developed the interface in more than 5-6 local languages, and that includes libreoffice also.

[@maxmaurer6751]

Love your Videos. It’s nice to see guys like you supporting Linux like this. Keep up the great work!

[@sickmind33]

Old people just go where the money is. Computer security would be massively increased if we switched to the penguin. (At least in theory)

[@unicorn_tamer]

I think that if everyone switches to linux, 1st: security will be less (like windows) because people will have a reason to hack linux and 2nd: isn't it much better when we are linux experts when others struggle to use windows?

[@sickmind33]

@@unicorn_tamer fair point

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@unicorn_tamer Security through obscurity doesn't quite work, as Linux is used everywhere, and thus hackers love to study it and try to find vulnerabilities to infect servers. About the experts thing, I think it would be nice of everybody could use the better option: Linux. It would mean more eyes on the code, more contributors and more improvements. Everybody ends up with a higher real state that way.

[@unicorn_tamer]

@@softwarelivre2389 this is true but I mean, if everyone does amazing things then you cant be something more than the others and sometimes, it's good to know something that others dont. But of course it's important to have more programmers available to write code and do unbilievable things however big tech companies (like microsoft and apple) can invest on this to make more money

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@unicorn_tamer I disagree. I've been doing things my colleagues couldn't my entire life and it only made me mad that they couldn't do it, which made me the one who would have to do it in the end. Not cool. The same way they did amazing thing that I couldn't. I don't want to be better than the rest, I want the rest to be as good as I am or even better, and then I will do my best to become evem better, creating better colleagues and a better myself.

[@theonetribble5867]

In my opinion Governments need to use Open Source software. As a citizen the Government needs some information about me but I then want to at least know how this information is handled. With proprietary software I can't be sure that this information isn't stolen by private companies even though I would be very privacy cautious personally.

[@link1565V2]

Yeah but they don't want you to know what it's used for.

[@JacobKinsley]

I used to work in a government environment and I feel like it's more that the people there are either 16 years old or 80 years old with no in-between and Linux is more of a 30 year old kind of target audience

[@sergevinogradoff6024]

I spend 90% of my time in a web browser anyway when I'm not working. And when I am working, I want my OS to "just run the programs I need". Sometimes it's Linux, sometimes it's Windows. That's why after 15 years of switching back and forth I still run dual-boot systems on machines I use every day.

[@salmanul_fares]

After wannacry hit, most government systems in the education sector have switched to Linux in Kerala, India. This should pave way for Linux adoption in other sectors as these kids grow up knowing how to use it. In my college, every computer students use from the library to software dev labs used some variant of Ubuntu.

[@BlackHawkTejas]

Even the Government of India is heavily focussing on Linux & RISC V Combo!!👍

[@pradap2298]

ubuntu fails

[@Aereto]

At least until there's a ransomware for Linux distro families.

[@marcello4258]

They are in Germany :P ..but I would like to see all goverments take the budget allocated for Microsoft products and donate it to the FOSS projects.

[@raphaelcontri993]

FSF would be richer than Musk 😂

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Oh not donating to the FSF. Donating to the projects themselves.

[@raphaelcontri993]

@@TheLinuxEXP I admit that I did not follow the controversy around the fsf too much

[@danilodistefanis5990]

I’m from Germany, not all govt uses it. Only a few offices.

[@marcello4258]

@@TheLinuxEXP that is what i said :) to the FOSS projects ;)

[@meyes1098]

The fact of the matter is, as much as Linux GUI has improved in recent years, Windows has been, is and probably will be for the foreseeable future lightyears ahead of linux and macos in terms of quality of life features, in terms of how easy it is to use and in terms of how intuitive it is.

[@1pcfred]

Windows is very intuitive. You figure you can't do it and you're right!

[@ivanf.8489]

Yap. But Linux also doesn't have the money nor the people to be caring a lot for UX. They prefer to invest their resources into functionalities. If Linux had more resources things would be different, but that is sadly just a dream.

[@meyes1098]

@@ivanf.8489 Yeah that's true. They spend their money on functionality and security. Windows spends a lot on UX, and macos.... I actually don't know, they're kinda garbage in every category, yet they get funded like crazy xD

[@meyes1098]

@@techtutorvideos Ooof, I could spend hours listing each and every objectively inferior feature that macos has compared to windows xD But I'm just going to leave it at that, been through this a hundred times and the result is always the same.

[@binoykukku]

Actually I was taught how to use Linux ( Ubuntu ) in school and college. And college professor (I study engineering) promoted using linux for coding related tasks and asked atleast to dual boot. First I was hesitant even to dual boot. But now linux (Fedora + gnome 40) is the only OS in my laptop.

[@sagichdirdochnicht4653]

One of the biggest Reasons: Microsoft Office. Seriously. You just cannot change to another Programm. Long time Office workers are unable to adapt and change for the life of it. I remember, when MS released Office 2007, and therefore switched the whole UI. The new Layout and stuff was superior in ANY imaginable way, easier to navigate, more intuitive, easier to use - but all of the people that used Office 2003 and previous versions were furious and acted like you just murdered their whole family. If you force those people to use eg Libre Office, expect nothing less, then full fledged riots and maybe a little civil war.

[@SFSAtlas]

Doesn't libreoffice have a MS office style layout?

[@sagichdirdochnicht4653]

@D Reaper have you ever dealt with office folks? Yeah, there are similar looking solutions out there, and I don't get either, why it HAS to be MS office, since eg Libre Office has 99% the same features at all. But even the tiniest changes drive those office folks NUTS. honestly, I've never seen this behavior anywhere else , but with those tools for those people, you'll make them blood thirsty maniacs if you change anything about their office suits.

[@IMBlakeley]

This exactly. Anyone who touts that Libre et al are compatible has never tried to share complicated documents and/or macros. The last two companies I worked for relied heavily on VBA, active directory, heck it took until 2009 to finally get rid completely of the truly awful Lotus Notes

[@IMBlakeley]

@D Reaper I'd hope so but either it needs to be 100% compatible with MS or it needs to be MS. Now I've packed in work for 99% of what I need libre office works fine. Tax return it's got to be Excel, principally that's why I keep Windows on a VM.

[@IMBlakeley]

@D Reaper As I am out of the country non resident I have to submit with and approved application. It just so happens that the one I settled on of written in Excel VBA.

[@AdamDymitruk]

These videos are getting more and more entertaining! Well done as usual!

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thanks :)

[@trulyharsh]

Indian government has started encouraging use of open source softwares. and it is also actively contributing to open source projects + it has also open sourced some of its innovative platforms like the cowin portal. Univ professors are also preferring linux over windows and we are getting to see it being used at several governmetal departments.

[@surajkpanigrahi]

My father's office use Linux BOSS mostly

[@felixthehuman]

I worked for a company that used Linux for thin clients and had all the windows apps we used in a server in IT. It started up really fast and made updates much easier than places I had worked before, but I think lots of people wanted to be able to personalize their desktop, etc and eventually we went back to desktops.

[@realtimestatic]

I think moving away from windows and all that proprietary tracking that comes with it is a good idea to make sure there won’t be anything malicious happening with the files of the citizens

[@AbhinavKulshreshtha]

Well said. Perfectly presented and explained.

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thanks :)

[@ca7986]

All points cleared very well. Good work! +1sub

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thanks a lot :)

[@lfjvs]

I moved to Linux because for my workflow its perfect. For the pandemic, because of the lack of computers in my house I had to use a raspberry pi as a main computer. Honestly it was hard at the beginning but now I use it all the time since the work Im doing is just browsing the web, writing code and file editing (aka university work) and I feel like its work perfectly fine. Of course I feel that if you want a gaming, specificlly AAA games it not a good idea. The gaming I do is retro games so its fine.

[@wichad3]

I couldn't help but laugh when you said that governments and adminstrators are the most productive people 🤣

[@tazz7390]

Actually, they use ubuntu in my local hospital. That's the only time I've seen anyone around me use it, and it's also a pretty old version

[@0ctatr0n]

I've seen Ultrasound equipment boot up with Gentoo on the post screen

[@Blessed2bFresh]

@@0ctatr0n that would make me so happy if I was in the hospital about to undergo a procedure :)

[@rohitk8797]

I think ubuntu offers paid security maintenance and technical support for 14.04 and 16.04 Lts versions only.

[@M167A1]

Where did you see it? I see it on some medical devices, along with for some bizarre reason windows CE. YES in 2021 you can still get equipment running Windows CE. In this case an endorectal pressure sensor. Which is just as fun as it sounds.

[@tazz7390]

@@M167A1 just a random work computer in a hospital, they were even using firefox as their web browser

[@ebusanta001]

Frankly, you being French never crossed my mind until I hear the French accent.

[@scheimong]

From where I see it, the push for Linux is most likely to come from countries who aren't the best of friends with the US. If and when it becomes obvious to those governments that keep using Windows is an existential threat, it becomes a matter of national security (which it is) and MS will very quickly get the boot.

[@jangamecuber]

Didn't China recently switch to linux

[@scheimong]

@@jangamecuber yes officially - they are beginning the process but China's Windows fleet is far too large to replace at once or even in a decade. Plus software support and funding is just not there yet.

[@puspamadak]

Switching to Linux have problems, but all of those problems are political.

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Definitely

[@rohitrajak5128]

This is the real killshot.

[@jhoughjr1]

nope

[@henrylawson430]

Governments need to adopt an open source where possible policy. E.g. adopt liberoffice on Windows and require that be used. Then if an individual specifically needs Excel, they are given an exemption. In this manner over time, the ecosystem moves over to open source.

[@GThu1]

Installing Gentoo is a very good way to learn linux. I did the same about 20 years ago and I liked it. It took some days, but learning the basics is essential to use linux professionally.

[@Selcukluemirss]

In Turkey, nearly 30% of the government uses a distro called "Pardus" based on Debian.

[@gunjja13]

Ok..You are officially my favorite Linux channel now! Your research is on point and I love the humor you add to it so so much😊

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thanks :)

[@ayushchaudhari5655]

Back in 2006, Richard Stallman came to India, and somehow convinced the government of Kerala to switch the computer school curriculum of an entire state from Windows to Linux! Edit: Wow! I just wrote not hoping anyone to notice, but I got to know so many other good things about open source flourishing from the replies!

[@janscholtz6297]

That's the right place to start ... schools!!

[@daveberntson4081]

@@janscholtz6297 Right! Torvalds learned unix in school and after he graduated, he wanted to keep using it, so, he wrote the linux kernel.

[@theodiscusgaming3909]

Wait, they teach Linux in Kerala? Seriously?

[@erenwayne]

@@theodiscusgaming3909 Yeah, I've heard they use Ubuntu in their systems.

[@vaibhavsrivastva1253]

@@janscholtz6297 You will be glad to know that Indian schools are now teaching OpenOffice [instead of MS Office] to the students, but it would be better if LibreOffice is taught.

[@Kirschi__]

7:44 Holy shit, I didn't expect you to know about that. My cousin works for the city of munich and they recently moved back to Windows unfortunately. My cousin preferred to work with Linux

[@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks]

When we moved to electronic ballots I was screaming for linux and opensource balloting software. Instead we went with proprietary software written for windows so we have no clue what any of the software is doing which of course leads to people claiming the software is determining elections and no way to ensure it isn't. It was the perfect opportunity to ensure fair elections as far as electronic ballots at least, and we couldn't even do that right. Of course, after 2020 it was clear that transparency in elections was not just a low priority for politicians, transparency and openness was seen as the enemy of getting the election results desired, so there's that.

[@kquote03]

3 seconds in and I've already put a like on your video 🤣

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Nice!

[@softwarelivre2389]

Literally me

[@SunIsLost]

Same

[@SunIsLost]

@@softwarelivre2389 lol

[@SunIsLost]

@@TheLinuxEXP 69, but hey nice.

[@matthewsjardine]

These are excellent points. Having done a lot of work with government here in South Africa, I have also found that they tend to go out on tender for many of the big tech procurement and development purposes. Companies that bid tend to offer a general solution, reliant on the assumption of Windows, Office, Outlook, etc. When developers bid for systems development work, they work towards a one size fits all solution.

[@Jake1702]

With regards to the printer support thing, they could use an cheap Windows PC disconnected from the internet but connected to the internal network and have it act as a print server. Also, for the old pieces of software, Wine *is* an acceptable solution, because older software often works *better* in Wine than in newer versions of Windows!

[@michaelcoll433]

Um... I'm in IT and everyone I work with knows multiple versions of Linux. The guys at the top pushed us towards rolling out Linux ( Red Hat ). The big issue was the user base. This was surprising, or not, as all our apps were web based. Even the office suite was Google Docs. And everyone was used to all sorts of apps on their smartphones. Who were these resistant users? As for hardware, every printer, scanner, smartphone we threw at it, just worked. Unlike Apple or Windows. The only issue we seemed to run into was having to use proprietary Linux software, like Nvidia and HP, but that was more of a philosophical issue. Now people want their desktops and laptops to look and behave like their smartphones.

[@krtirtho]

I open terminal which runs neofetch initially Seeing this my friends: He is a computer wizard🪄😮 Btw, the first 3 seconds were amazing😂

[@SFSAtlas]

I run pfetch in my .zshrc cause it's faster

[@drishalballaney6590]

@@SFSAtlas ye same

[@0ctatr0n]

Harry you're a Linux user!

[@Mr.Riojas]

Thankfully Microsoft is making it easier to move away from Windows by changing the UI and making it harder to customize beyond their vision of the OS.

[@chlorobyte_projects]

And by making it incompatible on devices that are more than 4 years old.

[@Mr.Riojas]

@@chlorobyte_projects Yeah, and that too. e-waste nightmare. At least the machine will run Linux.

[@erenwayne]

For the first time I'm hoping that Microsoft wouldn't drop that 8th generation CPU and TPM requirement because that would really motivate the masses to shift from M$ to the free land of GNU/Linux.

[@chlorobyte_projects]

@@erenwayne Microsoft wasn't wrong about all the BS they were saying about you making the choices. You can just move to Linux if you don't like having to buy a recent PC.

[@carlmiller369]

You Linux guys are the biggest dreamers

[@senantiasa]

Switching in general is just a difficult thing. I had always worked in Linux environments since 2011, but since 2019 I worked in just another company relying on Linux but the social condition sucked and the job was to process endless developers' requests (which I hated), so I tranferred to another company still under the same parent company where the social condition was awesome (I'm close friends with everyone in the department) and the job was very laid back but in an all Windows environment. For the first time I started studying Windows servers in a corporate setting and have gotten surprisingly pretty comfortable with it (but I'm still using my Debian laptop). During my time here, there were many times in which I thought I might convert a server to Linux. But I was always afraid if anything bad happened to me, no one in the entire department would be able to operate the servers. No one in my department is particularly interested in learning Linux (they don't like learning anything period) and people here don't seem to like changes at all:( My office is not governmental office, but people say that it has a job stability only second to governmental offices. Now, my assumption is that governmental offices are like my office now where people don't have the incentive to want to learn anything new and where people are resistant to changes. That's why it's easier to penetrate businesses than government.

[@jeffherdzina6716]

LOL Having worked for the United States Postal service. Most employees wouldn't have the brain power to run anything that didn't come with solitaire installed on it by default. The U.S. Navy paid Microsoft a few million dollars to keep up support for Windows Xp. So they didn't have to retrain members of the fleet. And most ship's systems all ran Win XP. Go figure.

[@SunIsLost]

Imagine, if he uploads a video, in which he ENTIRELY speak in French accent.

[@TheLinuxEXP]

That would be unbearable

[@SunIsLost]

@@TheLinuxEXP yea

[@SunIsLost]

@@TheLinuxEXP thanks for heart btw. :-)

[@AnzanHoshinRoshi]

Thank you, Nick. There is no reason. But there is no reason for starvation, homelessness, poverty, or continuing to follow economic illusions about eternal financial growth either.

[@thomasqsa]

When the pandemic started and and classes in my University were moved to an online regimen Microsoft offered the office suite to all students for free. What better way to get the future specialized workforce to depend on their solutions? It's a pretty smart move on their end imo. I on the other hand have convinced a few classmates to use open source tools to do the assignments instead lol

[@jangamecuber]

Currently doing summer homework in LibreOffice on my Linux Mint machine

[@deeneyugn4824]

We do use Unix/Linux; however, each administration has its own owner (lobbyist). So far we moved from Solaris to HP Unix to SuSE and RedHat then to AIX in the course of 25 years.

[@w_shakes_]

In my mind if linux get starts to get largely adopted one of two things may happen, Microsoft will feel the pressure and become less complacent, like how AMD has come and 'shook up' the cpu market etc. Or two Microsoft feels the pressure and tries to find some way to halt linux adoption or try to absorb linux into itself. (What I mean by absorb is like windows sub system for linux, in my opinion I think its cool, but a part of me feels this is Microsoft attempt to try and cater for the few thing that might make some switch to linux exist in windows, and make them stay there

[@erenwayne]

Nope, even though Linux has a small user base there's no way M$ can absorb it, It isn't the same case like of Minix using any cuck license, It's GNU/Linux👍. It's too big even for M$ to take over on.

[@w_shakes_]

Yes you are correct they wont succeed in absorption. I just don't think MS will be a "good sport" if Linux starts to get some market share

[@arsacode6145]

I think they already did that thing where they support Linux apps in Windows...then again, it's been a good three years since I switched to Ubuntu and goddamn it am I ever going back to anything else

[@levctt9953]

Hello. This was on my recommended. Nice video! I wanted to add a few comments to this. Manjaro has a built in HP Office center software or app. If the copying machine or printer is an HP brand it will work. I am surprised you didn't mention Ten. That was a Linux experiment in which NASA worked with the USAF (is my understanding). It is still around but I have no clue if anyone is using it. I think more governments need to experiment with Manjaro (Plasma). It has KDE connect built in and the buttons are in the same place as Windows. Start button is on the bottom left along with file explorer

[@PatrickPecoraro]

Never heard of Ten I know for a fact few people at NASA use Linux and if they do it's red hat. I think the highest concentration of Linux users at NASA is at the glen research center.

[@CEG3RD]

Thanks for your helpful videos. I'm currently on the on again stage of being off and on about Linux. I've tried several distros, including Fedora, Mini, PopOS, and Ubuntu. I've settled on Ubuntu. What I find is that there are just too many distros, too many opinions on which one to use. With Windows there's only one (well 2 for now) and like it or hate it, you know what you are dealing with and you can expect a pretty consistent experience, given that no OS will ever be perfect.

[@ygproduction8568]

3:34 No complains Thank you very much for the video Just appreciate your effort to explain terms in as easy way as possible

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thank you :)

[@ygproduction8568]

@@TheLinuxEXP That's my line sir :)

[@Dreigo42]

You missed the fact that many orgs use MS backend software like Active Directory. Linux may allow connecting to LDAP, but it won't support group policy and single sign on may be limited.

[@TheLinuxEXP]

True!

[@meushicow]

SSO with a Linux desktop and an AD backend isn't too complicated to configure, you just need to join the domain/realm and configure your PAM stack to grab a kerberos ticket a logon (and renew it periodically). For modern distributions, SSSD should handle it out of the box (or close enough). You can also configure Apache and Jboss on a Linux server to authenticate through SPNEGO. One issue is that AD Kerberos tickets can be very large if the user belongs to many AD groups as MS has overloaded the comment field with a group enumeration. This is actually also an issue for IIS and other MS products. Group Policy used to be supported through a third party solution but it is now supported natively through SSSD.

[@PiyushRaj-fv2yl]

3:33 that's apple's passive marketing, to engrave apple products in our subconscious

[@gbkooper]

I am an IT Manager at a university having all my servers and systems open source and Linux based, but my laptop on which I do all the work is Windows. Reason in a nutshell; Office and more specifically Excel and Word.

[@aha8969]

How so ?

[@onthebrightside977]

Hey Nick, it’s nick. I’ve been watching your shows for sometime now. I wanted to give some feedback as I’m in IT at a county level in the United States. I currently use Linux at work in a workplace filled with windows machines. One reason I find is as you said knowledge and training two of our team of four use Linux or Unix but other are only windows trained, and the rest of our 450 employees only know windows. The main thing I see is the windows eco system. Our government entity has completely bought into the office 365 and teams environment. We have documents and users that are 30 years deep that are all based on word or excel. Trying to train someone who has only ever used excel on another system is like getting them to drink boiling water one would think. I too think it would be a great option, but a logistical nightmare to get everything switched.

[@MasterGeekMX]

I want in the future to found my own little business, and from the start I'm gonna buy hardware that is linux-ready, and have all PCs with Fedora for the corporative login service.

[@noobian3314]

Wait until your employee asks you for a Mac 🤣

[@vvr4th980]

U can get Mac in virtual machine on Linux if you really want it I think there's high sierra

[@noobian3314]

@@vvr4th980 no gpu acceleration plus the employee gonna want a proper mac, plus that's also illegal as a business u have to respect the apple eula its not the same as when ur using it personally and dont have to care

[@vvr4th980]

@@noobian3314 well that sucks

[@noobian3314]

@@vvr4th980 meh, Linux kinda sucks in general anyway. Better not fighting the grain and just giving people windows or mac

[@AristoHadisoeganda]

It should be started from our education system, I mean in schools and collages, they should using Linux because students can learn a lot. On developer perspective, migrating to MacOS is much easier when you get used to Linux.

[@umersalman1]

The new lot is coming out using ChromeBooks. This is definitely gonna shift things

[@rinrin4711]

We have Linux in our Uni and I failed at least 3 important tests because of software issues (thankfully I was given second attempt in each case).

[@thamjeed3906]

Actually there are. In a little place called Kerala, India. The Government and the Government run schools use a modified version of Ubuntu. So students there know Ubuntu more than Windows.

[@robbylock1741]

I'm retired now, but used to work for local government and while Windows was the default at the desktop, we used a LOT of RHEL and Oracle Linux servers! We did have a few Windows file servers but most of production was run on Linux including ALL the Public Safety mission critical systems!

[@ALBKESTRELYTofficial]

To be honest in my elementary school they use edubuntu an education version of ubuntu. To the design clas we used to use plazma kde.

[@necrobynerton7384]

Yep we had it too, though we generally hated the computers, too slow and they weren't using windows. Well now I would have been glad to use one but back then I didn't know much except windows = good

[@Alexpires1986]

"Professor Xavier sister". DUDE, I SCREAMED!! Kkkkkkkkkk LOL

[@nellos4ever]

I came here thinking: is he going to mention lobbying? And it was the number one reason! I’m very pleased! Regarding the second reason: as a user of windows since Windows95 I find it more and more difficult to find the settings that I want in Windows10! I was playing with Fedora and Debian since 2004 and I have to mention that I can find the settings I need easily now (2021)! I think that the most serious problem as mentioned in the video is the custom software that these organizations use. I really liked the examples of linux usage that you mentioned at the end like Munich Vienna … why some failed etc.

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thanks :)

[@nellos4ever]

@@TheLinuxEXP this is a comment for the algorithm! Have a nice day!

[@JacintoPlanta]

As far as I know, Venezuela uses its own Linux distro called Canaima (based on Debian), and has been the official operating system in Venezuela's public administration since 2011. There's also Red Star OS, used in the DPRK. On a personal note, I remember the IT guy in my school installing Ubuntu on all the PCs on the computer lab when I was in 7th grade. Maybe it was because we were kids, or because we only used those PCs for schoolwork, but I remember the transition being pretty seamless, at least in my class.

[@0spidey1]

I "love" how a furniture shop had me downloading Adobe Reader because the pdf format they use will literally not open on any other software capable of viewing PDFs...

[@chrisbitus1328]

Libreoffice has a good PDF export option. Works perfect. However there is another pdf editor for temporary usage on Linux (forgot name). Adobe reader for now runs through wine properly. Crossover may be your solution.

[@namelesske]

Freedom and transparency is not the best friend of politics...

[@LKirahs]

This is not a politics problem, it's a Linux developers problem. They don't understand a simple thing. They cannot put themselves in the shoes of people outside of IT. Completely different mentality. They don't understand that the system to be learned is a bad system. The OS is supposed to learn users, be invisible, support him if necessary. But it should never occupy your attention. Show someone who has used Windows all his life, macOS. There won't be much to teach him. He'll figure it out on his own and the system will start to take care of him. Likewise with Android and iOS. Politicians have already tried, but it has not worked.

[@Fus1onplayz]

@@LKirahs Its definitly not a problem with linux. When I switched from Win 7 to ubuntu it was not harder than learning windows 10. But the lobbyism is a really big problem. In Germany we had Limux in Munich that was used in government agencies. But it was killed by lobbyism when microsoft moved their german hq to Munich.

[@yosefyahu4778]

A great question answered by a great video! Thanks!

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Thank you :)

[@trueriver1950]

There is one thing I would add to your otherwise excellent video. For a large organisation (whether govt, or for-profit, or not-for-profit) it is best not to try to migrate everything to Linux at once. You will have a mix of different systems, of different expiry dates, and with different end-users. It will cost your organisation less in cash-flow and in human resistance if you plan a phased migration. One approach would look like this: 1. All the computers that are used only for MS Word applications and browser-related activities have LibreOffice (LO) installed, and an alternative browser that is available both on Windows and Linux. 2. Staff using those computers get sent on training courses to use the relevant LO components, and the new browser. 3. After completing the course there is a transition period where they are told to use the new software, but allowed to use the old software in case of difficulties, especially on deadline-critical tasks. This mitigates staff resistance and protects the organisation from deadlines being missed due to staff not yet having internalised the new workflows. 4. The organisation identifies hi-tech devices that use a Windows PC as an essential part of the machine (in a hospital, that might be anything from an X-Ray machine to a multi-million pound/dollar scanner. In an engineering workshop that might be a computer-driven lathe or milling machine; and so on. 5. No attempt is made to migrate those existing devices from Windows. That would cost a fortune and might invalidate warranties or existing support contracts. However, at procurement time for additional or replacement devices, a policy is adopted to mandate suppliers to use a PC with a Linux distro from a company that offers paid-for support as well as free software. Examples would be Canonical (Ubuntu) and SuSE (SuSE Linux Enterprise). Till July 2023 Red Hat would have been a strong contender, but in my view no longer so. This process continues at a natural pace till all legacy Windows hi-tech devices have been replaced/ 6. As and when desktop PCs in offices are naturally due for replacement, and sometimes also when a PC is migrated from one version of Windows to the next, the new machines are bought with the chosen Linux distro pre-installed and with appropriate service contracts. That avoids any Linux driver issues. Where the user depends on software beyond the browser and LO, a suitable alternative is identified and procured, and the relevant users trained in those packages on Linux. 7. As and when 5 or 6 occur, a relevant fraction of the sysadmin and user support staff get Linux hardware and user-support training. Alternatively, the support contract could be chosen so that user support is supplied by the distro. 8. By the time that secretarial staff have their PCs upgraded to a Linux one they will already be proficient in using LO, and the new browser. Indeed, for the browser it will often be only the Linux icon that needs to be learnt. In an organisation with 20-year old machines (yes, !! -- some UK NHS hospitals have MRI scanners and so on that still run Win XP) by the time those machines are upgraded the expenditure on WIndows security updates past end-of-life will have become enormous. By then, almost all the PCs in the organisation will be running Linux, and the cost savings will be apparent. All with a phased capital outlay, that starts to see the return on that outlay well before the process is complete. More importantly in HR terms: by phasing in the adoption of free software intitially on existing Windows machines, and only later using a free OS, no user has to learn too much all at once; and the whole organisation is not hit by transition-related glitches all at the same time. I see this transition model as being likely to be more successful -- or even more successful -- than the all-at-once approach taken by the governments of some major countries.

[@rittalisa4916]

5:30 at home i just unplug my printer for my network and plug it by USB on a raspberry who run CUPS server. I don't trust my printer, i don't want a automatic "update" who kill my printer, or phoning home each time i turn it on. The nice touch of CUPS server is that once it's setup don't need 3rd party drivers/application on your computer /phone/tablet.

[@zuhairs7929]

I love Linux and it still gives me tons of issues with various laptops and monitors. I can't imagine the average user wants to troubleshoot that much like us.

[@JJFlores197]

I'm having lots of "fun" trying to get Linux Mint working correctly on my Thinkpad. I don't mind doing the troubleshooting and finding fixes but I know an average desktop user would be beyond lost trying to navigate this. Hybrid graphics is a PITA to get working correctly. Sleep/shutdown don't seem to work. Going to sleep just takes me to the lock screen. Shutdown doesn't actually shut down the laptop; I have to hold the power button until turns off The 4G modem has no Linux support. Tried following some forum posts for that particular model to no avail. USB wifi adapter has no official Linux support from Netgear. I tried following forum posts for that model also which didn't work either. I get weird audio glitches occasionally over HDMI

[@zuhairs7929]

@@JJFlores197 same here. I have this laptop that just keeps rebooting randomly on linux. It works fine on windows 😑 but maybe we have to accept that not all hardware is meant to accept Linux

[@ThaitopYT]

Let's me guess. Nvidia?

[@lelandclayton5462]

A friend of mine that did IT in the Navy confirmed that when DOS was heavily used a bunch of systems ran variants of Unix. I once bought a Desktop from the Navy DRMO that had Xenix on it. In the early to mid 2000's a lot of systems were using Red Hat Linux. Currently systems attend to run VM's and run Fedora on the back end. They typically run Windows and some stuff that haven't been replaced/updated still run DOS as a VM Client within Windows. Yes a VM server running on Fedora with a Windows VM client that is also running VMWare to run DOS. The Army also uses Linux and BSD for some stuff and don't forget the Air-Force had bought up a bunch of Playstation3s back in the day running either Linux or BSD. A lot of schools use chrome books that uses Chrome OS. A Hospital I know of uses SUSE Linux and is heavily dependent on MySQL, however they use Dell Thin Clients running Windows with Citrix to interact with it. The City I live in uses Ubuntu for their administrative uses. Oracle is heavy on lobbying military contracts.

[@veirdi3879]

My first contact with linux was around 2009-2010, in a public elementary school, the computer lab had linux installed on the machines, i was 6-7 years old and remember asking my teacher why they didn't use windows and they told me it was because linux is free. Up to this day i am still unsure about what distro they were using, but it was probably edubuntu or something similar, i remember it having some educational games with Tux. I also remember being weirded out by the interface, but eventually i kinda of liked it, just not as much as windows. Today i've been migrating to linux and i really love it, i've already tried Mint, Zorin, Linux lite and Manjaro (my favorite distro so far)