why are people returning THESE Amazon guitars?🤯🤪

[@ronalddobis6782]

It was probably returned because the wife said "no more guitars".

[@j-man9457]

Hahahaha strong possibility lol!

[@richardrust9532]

😂😂 yep!

[@kellyswoodyard]

That's why I'm single.

[@j-man9457]

@@kellyswoodyard hahaha!

[@warrenbutterfield4208]

You gotta know how to work this, then your response is: "OK we'll go for more wives‼️"

[@XXjg_]

Distracted from the point of the video because, holy f#%k, man, you can really play. Amazing.

[@j-man9457]

What? Really? Thanks man, you're too kind. Much appreciated!

[@j-man9457]

@@budmcnew7763 exactly hahaha!

[@XXjg_]

@@budmcnew7763 Aw, you’re sweet. It’s awesome when someone takes time out of their day to insult and demean someone for no logical reason. Sorry your mom didn’t love you enough.

[@XXjg_]

@@budmcnew7763 So you’re sharing information everyone already knows and think that adds to the conversation? Still a backhanded compliment, dude. Your awesomeness never ends. Thanks for clarifying?

[@markusaurelius777]

@@budmcnew7763 "Like a million others" There's not a million others....nice try.

[@jodycopeland1]

Finally a channel where the host can actually play a guitar

[@j-man9457]

Wow thanks man! There are many amazing players on KZbin, and I am not one of them hahaha, but I appreciate the comment!☺️

[@thoott3952]

Holy chicken picken flickin damn that’s good. Totally made me want to become more flexible and creative enough to pull off lead licks like that

[@thoott3952]

But how much did they cost being they were returns?

[@j-man9457]

@@thoott3952 what? Really? Wow thanks man! You're too kind!

[@j-man9457]

@@thoott3952 got this one for $300 CAD to my door!

[@jeebs3000]

I have a feeling every guitar you pick-up is a keeper-tone is in the hands, your hands. great vid!

[@j-man9457]

too kind. Thanks man! 😊

[@juicicles5881]

Im not trying to be a jerk, here. I just want people with less experience to not spend big money on "uber gear" before they hear good suggestions. A guitar set-up by someone that's a Pro is mandatory or it will just screw with you. They can get things to stay in tune that you want to kill... that guy should be your best friend. : ) You will never get a good tone without enough practice to understand how to play things so you (and other folks, by extension) like how it sounds and be able to sustain it for very long. There's no gear cure that gets around it, just like the earth isnt flat. Billions of People believe in silly myths, what can i say? Its not my fault, just I really want guitarists to not get caught up in myths. There are two things that are scientifically proven to affect the tone that is coming out of the amp. Everything else doesn't to much of a degree, beyond subjective feelings and experiments that are not well Controlled. The first is the speakers. If they are bunk or they aren't for the style of music you want to be playing... you wont like the experience and thats not going to help you get motivated to get the Hours. Find out what speakers the guitar players you want to learn the songs by have (on that specific song) and you're most of the way. In hard rock you're probably gonna want celestions, blues you want jensens. Beyond that I dont have that much first hand experience. You can get there with modeling software easily if you start there, but some speakers just don't work for some stuff. i can tell u fender speakers are never gonna make you happy if you want to play punk and metal. If you're playing extreme metal you need those speakers. The second thing is that non completely sealed finishes vs completely sealed finishes affects it. If it's sealed, then tonewood, blah, blah, whatever... doesn't matter. Just play ELECTRIC, it's less complicated. Everyone's got digital amps out that simulate all the effects and do it for electric and acoustic. some even do bass, too. I liked my old line 6 stuff, but i love my I can't even say which brand, publically cuz there is a legit cult (meaning, they ARE worth following and we do cuz we know but a LOT of the appeal is that the prices always stayed low. lol) that has followed them since early 70s. Every time someone tries to sell something, the price just goes nuclear

[@j-man9457]

@@juicicles5881 very detailed comment. Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge 😁

[@juicicles5881]

You're welcome. I dont want anyone else getting caught up in cults. even though that company deserves followers. they do everything from big, metal tube amps to little blues combos and great bass amps. their new digital amps kick ass. they made better strats than fender in the 80s and 90s and tons of other good and cheap basses and guitars in the US.

[@j-man9457]

@@juicicles5881 cool man! 🤘 Good to know!

[@rocknewtonfilsterwilly7364]

They returned them because they are wannabes that bought a cheap guitar and when they attempted to play and didn't master it in the first 30 seconds and their tender fingers got sore they quit and said I can't do it. Happens all the time. They like the idea of being a musician or guitarist but they don't want to put the work in and/or have no natural abilities.

[@j-man9457]

Yup it's quite possible... I run into that very same thing in my fitness classes. Everyone likes the idea of being fit, but when it comes to putting in the work, it's a different story hahaha...

[@garyshields3551]

Out of my 24 guitar's . I bought 10 of them from Amazon. 1 of which was returned for a exchange because of electrical problems . So even though you have a valid point . It's not the only reason 😎👍✌️

[@j-man9457]

@@garyshields3551 yup I hear ya... Everybody has their reason and it's all perspective. For some electrical issues or I level frets would be a deal breaker, but for me, I would fix it or address it and upgrade the electronics... But when I get a budget guitar like this one that needs nothing and is pretty much gig ready out of the box, I can't help but be 😁👍

[@goofyjohn6191]

Start with an insult nothing else needs to be said.

[@CorbCorbin]

⁠@@j-man9457 The biggest reason, is that Amazon just allows easy returns, and they just try another one, exchanging them over and over. People do this with pedals too.

[@roccosporgenti1747]

Most budget guitars are returned because they were gifts for non-players who didn’t use them.

[@Red_Whitenblu]

True true.or found out it really does take practice to play and that theres no guitar fairy that makes you a rock star overnight. Regardless of how many teeth you put under your pillow.

[@ScratchySlide]

That applies to any instrument. The problem is us pro's (bone player here) or even semi pro's and good amateurs make it look easy because we've put thousands of hours of hard work in. People get put off when something isn't easy.....

[@Red_Whitenblu]

@@ScratchySlide I was guitar center buying some strings a while back. And there was some kid maybe 12 or so with his mom and a guitar. I could overhear them talk. I guess mom and dad bought him a guitar found out you have to practice or it doesnt work. I couldnt help the temptation. I turned around and looked at them both and said, " What, you mean you thought you just gonna wake up one morning a rockstar"? His mom looking like she could use some sideline encouragement right away says, "Yep. Thats exactly what he thought". I told him its there, but theres three things to consider. You have to practice like you want it, your luck better shine as well. And most importantly. Is that the life you really want? I'll be homest with you. I dont think you do. Not that you cant. Its what you haven't seen yet. And if you're not willing to practice without being told, its already too late. You haven't sold the guitar yet, but you probably would be happier with an X box. He said," well what about you?" "I chased a dream that never happened. By the time I realized it, I was hooked on music and older than dirt. I didn't really want the fame. The moneys cool, but Im a one girl kinda guy. But nothing, NOTHING is better than playing a mean solo, even if nobodys there. Its not only a sense of accomplishment, but Knowing that came from you makes all the daily hours of practice worth it." Are you sure you dont wanna tell the guy you want the intonation adjusted, or you give up?" I seriously played the car sales routine beautifully. But I saw his and mom walk out to the car empty-handed. Maybe he did tell the guy he wanted it adjusted, but I doubt it. I did ask him before I left if he recorded any of his playing . He said no. Too bad Because everytime you play, you get better But you wont notice it because its gradual. Most people quit because the think theyve made no progress. Thats usually not true. Record yourself so everytime you feel you're not getting anywhere, pull out that recording and get ready to feel good again.

[@voornaam3191]

​@@ScratchySlide But you write about people you never even saw. That is hard! How did you learn that? You'd say you stopped doing that, because it's not easy? What is going on, here? Is it easy, to blame others for being lazy? It is, isn't it? Is it?

[@ScratchySlide]

@@voornaam3191 You okay....?

[@WesternSwingGuitarGrooves]

Great post! I can't believe how hard it is to find a guitar review where you can actually hear the guitar. Most are so distorted that it is impossible to tell what the guitar sounds 👍 👌

[@j-man9457]

@@WesternSwingGuitarGrooves thanks man. Nothing fancy with me! Just my tablet mic and camera haha! What you see and hear is pretty much what you get! 💗

[@WesternSwingGuitarGrooves]

@j-man9457 Yeah, it's amazing what's available today. I record on my Samsung phone, and it sounds fine for most purposes! It wasn't that way back in the 1960s!

[@j-man9457]

@WesternSwingGuitarGrooves hahaha no that's for sure. I wonder what KZbinrs used back then 🤔 hahahaha!

[@Johnny.D]

I bought an IYV ipf-300 last year, and it was reduced because of a so-called blemish. I found the blemish and it rubbed right off. Only issue I had was the neck thickness, which I fixed with my shinto file and mahogany nitro from Oxford. That guitar sounds fine to me.

[@j-man9457]

Cool! Blemishes that wipe off are the best ones! And good on you for thining that neck. Most people would not attempt something like that!

[@picker63028]

My IYV got returned because the wood inside the body looked light a chainsaw carved it. I got a replacement which was way better but you have to question the glue joints and construction on the rest of the guitar. I own 30 guitars so I wasn't expecting perfection but the reviews are full of crap. The Glarry Telecaster was junk. Saddles, pickup and the frets raised. The gave me a partial refund and I did the work but it's not worth the low price they sell for. The Grote 335 was nearly perfect out of the box.

[@j-man9457]

@@picker63028 ahhh thanks for the info man! Yeah good reason to return. Yeah I have had no luck with Groove, Jet, Michael Kelly, Eart... They all needed major work out of the box. You just never know🥴

[@Joe-mz6dc]

Good job. I've had my eyes on those Iyv for a while now. Nice guitars.

[@steelhead197]

Been watching a lot of tele reviews lately….and your playing melted my face! Well done sir! Cheers 🇨🇦👍🏻

[@j-man9457]

@@steelhead197 hahaha well I never got a comment like that before 😃 Thanks!

[@mattgeo1545]

Not everybody buys "budget" guitars on the premise that "I need to work everything". Not everybody can do it. Not everybody WANTS to do it. We "moders" on the other hand, LOVE to buy budget and build GREAT! When one comes that is beautiful and near perfect, that makes them an awesome deal! I always expect a basic basket case to mod, and have NEVER received a complpete basket case. Even when I buy name brands...they come apart to make them "mine".

[@j-man9457]

Yeah for sure! But exactly my point... Those who want a budget guitar that they don't have to mod, are not gonna find anything stacked like this thing! Not here in Canada anyway!

[@CorbCorbin]

@@j-man9457 I think new Les Pauls, are like buying a car, in Australia. 😄

[@JackieWbster]

Just thinking about Jeff Beck and his struggle to sting. What ever to a length of wood , what a beautiful contrast to the idiots that returned those really nice instruments,

[@j-man9457]

@@CorbCorbin hahahaha now that's funny!

[@Bbbbad724]

@@j-man9457 David Gilmours black Strat is a Partscaster that he modded every thing on. He once said that yeah I can buy any guitar I want, but to make it mine I have to set it up to fit me. I always liked that about him. I haunted pawn shops since the 70s for bits. pots, push pulls, switches bridges even hard tail string through bodies and quartersawn necks.

[@skymaster547]

I'm sure it was just a fluke, but I received a Leo James LP style guitar from Amazon for Christmas roughly a year ago. It was gorgeous! It broke my heart to return it because it actually didn't work at all when plugged in. I tried all the switch positions, volume and tone controls but no sound what so ever. I got out one of the electric guitars I already have and they worked fine. I'm thinking it was probably something really simple, like a broken or loose wire or possibly a cold solder joint? Anyway, as tempted as I was to peek inside, I felt I shouldn't have to repair a brand spanking guitar out of the box. So I did return it. My wife felt bad for me because it was my Christmas present and told me to get a better one, which I also ordered on Amazon. I ended up with a hollow body LP style by Grote. It works just fine. So, some of them, at least mine, was definitely defective. If I had received the tele style like this one your playing, I would have kept it. Interesting video!

[@j-man9457]

@@skymaster547 yeah I hear ya... Shouldn't have to fix a new guitar, but it is the reality of budget builds. Sounds to me like it was just a bad solder joint. Glad your new one was all good. Thanks for sharing.

[@arvidlystnur4827]

Old guitars sometimes have special colorization as neck wood ages. The tele was returned because it didn't sound like a fifties tele.

[@j-man9457]

But this is not a 50s tele it's a 2024 tele 😃

[@landofahhs_1]

Uh, how many people have any idea what an early tele actually sounds like?? I own a 68 I've had since 74 and I can watch a thousand channels on KZbin with people telling anyone who will listen that just about any guitar made today is better than a Fender or that "some guitar" sounds just like a tele or a strat. (And that's through your TV speakers, sigh). Go figure...because IMHO it goes well beyond simple sound...the old necks were unique as were the varnish and frets. But what do I know, eh?

[@j-man9457]

@@landofahhs_1 yeah man! No clue. I was born in 71 didn't start playing till 88. I've played Teles most of my life. Mostly 90s and up. I'll tell you with certainty that these Musis are every bit as good stock, as any tele that I've modded or upgraded over the years... Now when it comes to a 68, I'd say hell yeah! Would love to have one! Enjoy it and keep rockin!

[@arvidlystnur4827]

@@landofahhs_1 , Totally agree. Sometimes people love the particular sound of an old guitar's electronics caused by wire rot. The wire then fails completely and is replaced with new wire and sounds different. Maybe a resistor or capacitor wired in might recreate the tone, not that I'm an expert.

[@Bbbbad724]

@@j-man9457 There was a 60s 70sand the new player series I think is a 12 inch radius neck with the modern truss rod and 6 rattle saddles with 5 barrels instead of 3. Some don’t have strings through the body. I bet a dime it’s a 60s Vintera 2 with the thin neck. My 50s has the ball bat U neck that could have been why., I can’t play a thin neck.

[@CorbCorbin]

I’m looking at a similar issue. I want a Gretsch with a Bigsby, but even in the U.S. made ones, they don’t have the roll bar, that keeps a guitar w/Bigsby in tune. It’s another few hundred dollars, to buy and have installed. There are other things in the affordable series of Gretsch w/Bigsby Indonesian, China or Korean made line, that also need work. I ended up looking at used ones, because most who kept them, had the Bigsby fixed, got better tuners and other upgrades, and they’re sold for not much more than a new one, that may or may not need $400+ in upgrades.

[@j-man9457]

Buying used from someone that knows their stuff is always a good deal and as you said, more than likely most issues have already been fixed or upgraded!

[@dannymacnevin3939]

Hey man. I can honestly say, both West Creek guitars I got from you, the 333 and the LP Junior style, both play and feel great. The M Musi plays awesome, and I keep it next to my desk all the time. It has become my "goto" guitar to grab when I want to work something out etc... the only issue I had (and you know because I popped in to your gig one night to grab a string tree from you) was the lack of break angle on the B and E strings. I used the M Musi at a country rehearsal, tuned to standard 440, and had zero issues. It sounded and played great! But that weekend, I used it at a gig, where we played everything from country to SRV, and we tune a 1/2 step down. With that reduction in string tension, it made the difference, and the fact that I am always playing open strings, the E and B strings kept popping out on me. The string tree fixed it 100%. They should have one installed on all their guitars out of the box. But for the price and the quality you get, I will gladly install my own any day. I might have to chat with you on that white Tele style... I might have to grab that one too. lol. Cheers Buddy!

[@j-man9457]

Thanks Danny! If these guitars are good enough for a player of your caliber, that's all I need to know! You da man!

[@embreesmith7613]

Fantastic to see a Demo where the guy can Play !! 🙂🙂🙂

[@j-man9457]

Ahhh Jeezzzz thanks man! Lots of great players out there demoing guitars that are way out of my league... I'm just happy to contribute! Thanks for stopping by and commenting! 🙂

[@embreesmith7613]

@@j-man9457 check out Guthrie Trapp. 🙂

[@DNA2000-8bit]

Casually shreds the crap out of an Amazon guitar. Subscribed. Insane skills.

[@j-man9457]

Hahaha thanks man!

[@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782]

This is the kind of guy that will make a toy guitar sound good.

[@TimHWolfe]

Curious, I haven’t looked myself. What kind of prices are these returned guitars from Amazon ? They look really nice.

[@j-man9457]

This one I got for 300. Regular the are 485...

[@TimHWolfe]

@@j-man9457 Thanks. That’s workable 👍

[@j-man9457]

@@TimHWolfe 👍

[@peskypesky]

I need to learn some of those country licks. Damn.

[@cataclysmicconverter]

Buck Owens and the Buckaroos "Live in Japan". All ya need!

[@jamespinkston2988]

My guess is that the return didnt have anything to do with the actual guitar. Like they ordered a different color and got sent a white one so they returned it.

[@j-man9457]

Yup could possibly be🤔

[@FlipDahlenburg]

Bingo! Happens all the time in mail-order.

[@MezzMcGillicuddy1]

Dude can pick! And I just can’t get over how good that guitar sounds!

[@j-man9457]

Thanks man! Yup for an out of the box axe, it's very impressive! 😁

[@TranscendentBen]

7:19 Strum an open chord so we can hear it as you turn the volume and tone up and down. If they're scratchy, that's when you'll hear it. Also for the hum, it can be generated in one or both of two ways. One is magnetic from a power transformer in equipment picked up by a single-coil pickup as you were trying to demonstrate (the closer to the transformer the louder the hum, and the guitar's angle with the sourcealso affects volume), the other is electrostatic, which you can hear with "high gain" (lotta distortion) and NOT touching the strings or any metal hardware on the guitar. If you get hum the second way, it needs the control and pickup cavities shielded.

[@j-man9457]

@@TranscendentBen Hey good info! 😀 I have 3 of these classics... I gig with them regularly. Pots are not scratchy at all. Nice full size smooth pots. These guitars are already shielded from the company. They come with shielding paint throughout. Also pickups have insulated cloth wire pickups. I never get noise with any one of my M-Musi Classics... For this video, my phone (mic and camera) is literally on a stand next to my amp, and I'm an arm's length away from the amp and phone sitting on that chair... 😃

[@FlipDahlenburg]

@@j-man9457 Very impressive!

[@captainchaos3053]

It probably didn't sound like when you played it either. Wow. After watching this I chucked all my guitars in the bin and am .lookin at drum kits

[@j-man9457]

Hahaha now that's funny!

[@woody4269]

Hope your dumpster is big enough for t kit too. 🤧

[@j-man9457]

@@woody4269 hahaha no instrument deserves a dumpster. Play that thing and enjoy! 😁

[@woody4269]

@j-man9457 totally agree J man! Started drumming 3 yrs ago. Watching 4 yolds drumming isn't good for my health. Now bass for 2 weeks...t same. Loving t journey 🤙

[@danwhitinger3005]

where do you buy returned Amazon guitars? When I looked the web says amazon either resell them as new or returns to the manufacture.

[@j-man9457]

@@danwhitinger3005 yup.... However it's a luck thing. Just below the listed price of the item you are looking at, sometimes there is an option that says "Saved with used like new" if you see that, click that option. But when Amazon says like new, opinions greatly differ... Just FYI! Hahaha

[@scorpionleader1967]

I bought a Firefly that was called out for having microphonic pickups. I got it fully expecting to swap the pickups. But they weren't putting microphonic pickups anymore. $225 for a beautiful Les Paul copy in perfect condition. No work necessary. I paid more for the case to protect it than for the guitar.

[@callfourzero1931]

Amen to that, did the same on a FFLP, it's fully awesome as is and wicked good overdriven.

[@j-man9457]

Nice man. Nice purchase. Enjoy!

[@jc9240]

Amazon Customers did return these Guitars because this J-MAN is such a Great Guitarist that convinced them that they should Quit and Retire from ever attempting to become a Guitar like Him!

[@grubbetuchus]

My FFLP needed fretwork. Some were popping out. Now, it plays fantastic. The tones are amazing. I run it through three early '70s Ampeg V series amps. Golden tones, unmatched.

[@j-man9457]

@@grubbetuchus nice set up man! Rock on 😁!

[@longhair-dontcare9983]

J-MAN, good to see you again! @9:00 and on - whoa! You are sounding fabulous. I like that guitar, the headstock reminds me of if Fender and Parker had offspring. I still have my EART telecaster, it shares a lot of similar features. I replaced the repulsive green pickguard ( on a BLUE guitar) with a cream pearloid one. Probably keep it forever. Take care.

[@j-man9457]

Jeepers man! Yeah I remember you! Glad all is well and you're still playing! You're right about the Parker fender thing! Hahaha Take care as well and keep rockin'!

[@MrUltraworld]

That Musi has SS frets, a compound radius neck, and a bone nut, and locking tuners. Amazon ran out of them! That headstock is cut deeper to eliminate string trees! Nice playing!

[@j-man9457]

Hey thanks and yes the guitar info is bang on... Don't forget the oversize strap buttons, compensated brass saddles, puretone jack, shielded cavities, full size pots and american blade switch, cloth wire pickups, roasted neck contoured heel and comfort cuts, and a perfect weight of 7.4lbs!😉

[@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow]

many of those budget friendly guitars in my opinion are half baked.. Many need work...or have to be reworked... those budget companies save money, because they are half baked , the companies that make them expect us to finish the job for them... meaning we gotta fiddle with them . tighten a screw here, adjust here, change this, reset this.. I noticed the same treatment with budget bikes I have to fine tune them..

[@j-man9457]

Yeah I hear you but that's where these are different. These are gig ready after a set up. All guitars need set ups... Yes even Fenders 😲

[@dudeonthemoon3290]

Definitely. They may have positives in terms of build at times. Some people get lucky with a beautiful build and decent playability but some get bad builds and ruins it all. Shotty strings or fretwork or whatever

[@j-man9457]

@@dudeonthemoon3290 yup every guitar is subject to a lemon from time to time. But that is not my experience with Snow White.... Yes I named it! Haha!

[@theethnicist5678]

That's a beautiful guitar, the white telecaster copy. Where on Amazon can I find one exactly like that?

[@j-man9457]

@@theethnicist5678 unfortunately the brand is out of stock in North America 😔 and it has been for months now. I'm hoping they become available again in 2025🤞

[@theethnicist5678]

@j-man9457 Thanks I immediately went online searching for one just like yours. Unfortunately, I only found a used black one. It had minor surface blemishes to the body, but the seller says that it has been well kept I'll see!? Thanks to your video, I'm going for it. I'll let you know how it goes? Nice guitar playing, btw

[@j-man9457]

@theethnicist5678 thanks man! I have a black one too. I blacked out all of the hardware and installed a black pickguards. I call it my VaderCaster! Hahaha

[@michealfearn6408]

They returned it because they couldn't play it like srv in a couple of weeks

[@j-man9457]

Hahaha! I've been playing for 30 years and I can't even dream of playing like SRV lol! Besides only SRV plays like SRV! Hahaha

[@lawman3966]

You mean, that's not a valid reason for returning a guitar? Damn! I guess I'll have to keep my Harley Benton after all.

[@j-man9457]

@@lawman3966 hahaha!

[@anthonyrexhouse5858]

Do you buy returned guitars from Amazon? If so, where are they listed? Thanks!

[@j-man9457]

@@anthonyrexhouse5858 you just have to look at the price, and right below if you see an option for "Save with buy used like new" just click on that link! That will be a returned, open box guitar...😄

[@anthonyrexhouse5858]

@@j-man9457 Thank you. It doesn't look like they sell the Musi guitars anymore

[@j-man9457]

@@anthonyrexhouse5858 Hey no they are out of stock in North America. Are you from Canada?

[@anthonyrexhouse5858]

@@j-man9457 No. New York, USA

[@j-man9457]

@@anthonyrexhouse5858 ahhh ok. I have a Musi Classic in Blonde with Black guard for sale for $220USD. Shipping to NY would be $60USD. So if you're interested. I can ship you a blonde Virgo Classic for $280USD total...

[@jtx42]

j-man with the legendary chops glad i stumbled upon your channel look forward to seeing more of your jamming, tremendous.

[@j-man9457]

OMG thanks man! You are too kind! There are much better players on here than me and they are not hard to find! I don't measure up, but I certainly appreciate your comment. You made my day 😊!

[@lauralomenda2266]

Wow! Great Tele. Is it for sale? For how much? I just heard the playing part of it

[@j-man9457]

It's awesome, and it's already gone... My good friend really wanted it and I already have 2 of these, I'm happy he's happy! 😄

[@donwershba2319]

Great playing!

[@bassproable]

I worked at an Amazon return repair center. We had lots of guitars come in for various reasons, some with absolutely no issues, or the wrong color.

[@j-man9457]

@@bassproable interesting! Did you take many home? I would have hahaha!

[@robertclarkguitar]

I've been wanting a white tele and strat style ...These are killer.

[@j-man9457]

Yeah but apparently not killer enough for people to keep hahaha. No clue why this one was returned. It is awesome right out of the box! 😁

[@robertclarkguitar]

@j-man9457 I'm sure it was probably someone buying reviewing returning or maybe a drunk purchase hahahah

[@charleslanphier8094]

How do you go about buying guitars returned to Amazon?

[@j-man9457]

@@charleslanphier8094 it just the luck of timing... When you're looking at an item, below the price , if you see an option that says “save with used like new“ click on it. It will give you a description and an option to buy an open box / returned item. But fair warning, Amazon's definition of "like new“ varies greatly from item to item hahaha!

[@chuckmadden2251]

I bought a Musi tele for my daughters 15th bday. I looked good but lots of real quality issues that woulda cost money to fix. Hated to return a gift but we had no choice, unplayable. Guessing they don't resale all returns.

[@j-man9457]

Wow really? I have yet to see a bad one... But that would warrant a return for sure I mean an unplayable guitar? That's a return for sure! But this one is totally playable like awesome playable... Can't figure what you'd buy for the same coin that would come close to this particular one???

[@bluwng]

Elaborate

[@bluwng]

@@j-man9457he gave no details just a blanket statement and who knows what his expertise is to claim quality.

[@tonepilot]

60 cycle hum isn’t caused by the speaker, it’s causaed by noise in the environment from flourescents, bad grounding, etc. I think the Musi is great.

[@j-man9457]

Thanks! I never get 60cycle hum with my Musis... No matter what bar we're playing in. I think they are great too! 😃

[@garypenton1583]

Bull. It’s caused by single coil which is why humbuckers cancel hum

[@j-man9457]

@@garypenton1583 just shield everything like they do on these from factory and you're fine! 😄

[@InGratitudeIam]

Maybe, just maybe, they didn't bond with the guitar. It just didn't "speak" to them. That's not to say the guitar isn't technically fine. It just left the previous owner wanting for something else.

[@j-man9457]

Yup for sure a possibility! 😁

[@robertgladstein]

Exactly

[@louaguado995]

I've never bonded with Tele's either. I prefer Les Paul's or SG's.

[@drivenwon]

So what is the real reason you purchased these two guitars?

[@che2335]

You cant shop a neck profile online. Ive returned or sold off 4 since 2020 bc i ordered then didnt like the neck shape when i got it.only 2 i kept were an Epi LP 60s which i knew the neck would be fat but its ok bc thats a Les Paul. And then an Aria Pro2 Jet1 w the most wonderful med C strat neck w med frets Ive played for the price.

[@j-man9457]

Yup totally get ya... However in the spec list for these it does say slim C shape with 9.5 to 12 radius so for anyone reading up before they buy, they should have a pretty good idea of what it's gonna be like no?🤔

[@parsnipfingers]

​@@j-man9457​ I find it hard to disagree with what you've written here, but "slim C shape with 9.5 to 12 radius" doesn't say anything about thickness nor width of the neck at different points. It also assumes the buyer is experienced. A fraction of a millimetre over the neck width can make a significant difference to how it feels in the hands, and I think it's impossible to know if it's a good fit until you've spent some time playing it. Whether this is why somebody bought/returned a perfectly good guitar is anyone's guess. Maybe it was an unwanted gift, or the colour of the guitar didn't quite match their decor when they opened the box 🧐. I enjoyed your video and your playing in any case mate 👍

[@j-man9457]

@@parsnipfingers yup all good points for sure... I guess we'll never really know in this case 😀 Thanks for your input! Cheers!

[@parsnipfingers]

@@j-man9457 it's nice to have a bit of mystery left in the world. You're welcome, have a new sub 🥳

[@FlipDahlenburg]

Man, if you're wearing a jacket because you're cold, you might think about all that ventilation down South that you're 'exposing yourself' to!

[@j-man9457]

Hahaha!

[@johnmason7425]

I ordered the blue musi tele over a year ago, put on new strings and set it up, however the bridge wasn't centered correctly. The high E was right at the end of the fret, while the Low E had lots of space on it. Also the pickups were somewhat microphonic on the one I got. Other than that it held tuning well and was beautiful and would have been my first steel fret guitar.

[@j-man9457]

@@johnmason7425interesting. Sometimes when the strings are off like that, you just need to loosen the neck screws, apply some pressure to the neck towards the base string side and re-tighten the neck screws. Sometimes the neck just isn't lined up properly... But I have seen guitars with uncentered bridges as well just not as often as a slightly misaligned neck!

[@johnmason7425]

@@j-man9457 the neck pocket was nice and tight and the e string was closest to the edge there. I could have redone the bridge but not on a new one. Maybe I got a dud, because it was beautiful and I wanted to help it so bad hehe!. The frets and neck were perfect.

[@j-man9457]

@@johnmason7425 yeah that's really too bad 😞

[@theguitarprofessionals8584]

I love all guitars!!!!!!

[@cbbiny]

I feel exactly the same way.

[@StevenMcsweeney-k4e]

It’s like beer. I like all beer but like some beer way more than others.

[@TheJohnburghardt]

I really appreciate this video. I have never purchased an Amazon return but may try that now. I have always wanted a Tele with comfort carves and this will be my first. I watched your videos on the Musi’s with the vibrato arm. They seem very nice but the sound of this one with the single could is hard to beat. Thanks again.

[@j-man9457]

Hey Thanks John? The Musis with the trem are the Virgo Fusions, more of a rock designed tele style whereas these are the Virgo Classics. A more traditional take but with modern features! I like them both hahaha!

[@Joe-mz6dc]

@j-man9457 Hey I'm not sure what part of Canada you're in but I'm out here in British Columbia and these guitars are not showing up as available for delivery here. I wonder if they're only available on the East Coast or the middle of the country?

[@j-man9457]

@@Joe-mz6dc I'm from PEI. They are out of stock. Musi is currently moving to a new facility and will resume production along with new models early this summer I am told ...

[@AkaSnugD]

I’ve never jumped down the westcreek rabbit hole, but everything I have seen just casually on KZbin has been positive

[@j-man9457]

I've had everyone of their models and demoed everyone. After a set up they are spot on! Very consistent QC on their models!

[@tomwhite716]

Next…..l

[@LuckyFlesh]

I bought their "333" in Pebble blue ( a Gibson 335 inPelham Blue knock off). It looks a lot like the Dave Grohl model, but imho, it's better looking (it even has F holes instead of that weird diamond thingy). Out of the box the neck was seriously back bowed, but everything else was great. A simple adjustment of the truss rod with the (included) hex key, and I was good to go. Disclaimer: I'm no expert, so my "good to go" might be dog poop to someone that knows anything about guitars, but at any rate, I have NO regrets about spending 200 bucks for it.

[@j-man9457]

@@LuckyFlesh nice man! I bought the same one a while back... The Blue 333 and yes it rocks! Everyone sets them up differently to suit their playing style. That's why every and any guitar you buy, brand name or budget, will require some kind of set-up 😉

[@dratonbalat3423]

I bought a returned one from Amazon that was DOA with no sound coming out. Those are easy fix. I got another return that I could not find anything wrong with it. And the last one there was a buzz on one fret. The fret needs to be dealt with, but the action was too low, so I raised it a bit, although i do like it low. All these guitars had brand new nice strings on them as people do this first.

[@j-man9457]

Wow man! Nice score! Yeah these are great guitars and super easy to work on! Enjoy and Rock on!

[@jimmyz2098]

I took a chance on one Westcreek guitar. It was awful. I got rid of it, and for next to nothing. And that was after spending a couple hours trying to set it up, and dialing it in. I finally got it to where it would (basically) play. And that's about it. It was terrible. And I am a budget-guitar lover. Bought bunches of them in general, and bunches of them off of The Zon. And I've been pretty lucky. But every once in a while, you're going to strike out if you play the game. I don't buy the M Musi Guitars. But it looks like they are a big step up from some of the others. But you also pay more for them. So they should be pretty good. My 2 cents.

[@j-man9457]

100% buddy... They are more money and yes they are a quite the step up as far as hardware electronics and features go.... Surprised with your Westcreek experience. I have played, set up and reviewed, every model they make and multiples of each models... Yes some require more set up work than others but all of them have been super easy to dial in with superb fit and finish. You obviously received one slapped together at quitting time on a Friday hahaha!

[@mattgreven7615]

wow--you play super well! How much were those guitars on amazon?

[@j-man9457]

@@mattgreven7615 ahhh thanks man... Still have lots to learn! When these were still available in Canada, they were 469$ on Amazon. I got this one for 300$

[@garyshields5582]

I wonder why I can't find any of the M MUSI Guitars on Amazon .

[@kelroundell6304]

Ya me either. I’m in the market for a guitar. I’m literally shopping now. How do I get one of these???

[@j-man9457]

They are currently out of stock! And possibly tweaking their models now that they have gotten lots of feedback....

[@j-man9457]

@@kelroundell6304 right now they are out of stock on Amazon. I have seen them on E-bay and Reverb used.... I got this one a while back but haven't had time to do a vid due to a death in the family. I've been looking lately and yeah there's nothing on Amazon...

[@samscott54]

Great job. Nice playing. Loved the guitars

[@j-man9457]

@@samscott54 Thanks buddy! Amazing guitars for the price.😃

[@Real.Alpheus]

Where are you finding the "returned" guitars?

[@j-man9457]

It's just the luck of the draw... When you are looking at an item, under the price sometimes you'll see "save with used like new" well in Canada anyways, may be a different layout for US or other countries... Anyway if that option is there click on it and you'll get an option for an open box / returned item like the one you are looking at. But fair warning, the condition may or may not be like new. Amazon's descriptions leave much to be desired lol...

[@Proudtobemasculine323]

My Wife Told Me Its Her Or The Guitars I Told Her Im Gonna Miss You!!!!!!!!!! Then I Called My Side Chick Who Bought Me The Guitar

[@j-man9457]

@@Proudtobemasculine323 ohhhh that's bad! Hahahaha! 🤣

[@JohnSmith-zf9hj]

What's the Brand name of these guitars? Maybe post a link🤔

[@j-man9457]

I name them at :56 seconds in the video... M-Musi Classic, made by M-Musi, And a WestCreek Revenge made by WestCreek. These are not Amazon Guitars. They are only sold by Amazon. Amazon doesn't make guitars, neither does Reverb, Walmart, Guitar Center, Kijiji and E-bay etc... I will add the names in the description as per your suggestion. Thanks!

[@barrygoodson4952]

I ordered a Fogill from Amazon. It was actually a nice guitar for the money but had two problems. It had a flame maple top that turned out to be a print they painted and it looked cheap. Also the volume pot had a bent knob with a catch in it. I couldn't get past the printed top and they should disclose it is a print. I could have easily changed the pot but I didn't want to because of that print. Otherwise the Fojill was a nice inexpensive guitar.

[@j-man9457]

@@barrygoodson4952 I hear good things about the fogills. Yeah most budget guitars will have printed tops. That's why I prefer just a plane jane painted body when I buy a budget guitar. Some prints are cool though but yeah the ones that look fake really suck lol!

[@flppr1]

Hi J-man, I just received a Westcreek Racer with a set-neck from Amz. I lowered the action from the initial 3.5 mm to 2 mm, and now strings 1 and 2 choke out during the smallest of bends on the higher frets. It's going to need fret work to make it playable to my needs, and I don't like the gtar enough to do that, so it's going back. What condition did Amz say the gtars you bought were in, good, acceptable, fair? Seems like that musi is in great condition. It's hit or miss with Amz. Oftentimes I receive a gtar that Amz sells as new, but I can tell it's not.

[@j-man9457]

Hmmm I reviewed a racer a while back and it was great but it did need a truss rod adjustment and a few frets leveled before lowering the action. Yeah yours could have been frets that were not pressed on right or just high frets... That is a reason for a return. I thought for sure I would find an issue similar with this one and the plan was to try and fix it during the video, but there was absolutely nothing wrong with this one so it sort of back fired hahaha... It didn't state the condition. Just said used like new, but like you said, you just never know with Amazon hahaha

[@johannesdebeer]

As a Canadian myself, how do you buy these from Amazon?

[@j-man9457]

Just watch the listings and look for Used like new or type open box guitars..... They are rare but sometimes you get lucky. 🙂

[@dukeofearl4117]

Just checked Amazon and this guitar is unavailable. I would own this guitar. Where is it made? How much is it?

[@j-man9457]

They are from China but couldn't tell you where exactly. They are normally available on Amazon but seem to be out of stock here in Canada I can't see them on Amazon anymore😔 New these are $485 CAD. There are often discounts on them... Keep checking Amazon... Hopefully they will have more stock soon! 😃

[@davesanders8253]

Love your reviews. I owned up to 55 basses at one time during my 50 career as a musician. I've owned many Warwicks, Fenders, G&L and Alembics and have recently started getting back into these "buget" guitars/basses. My first "Tele" was a Chinese "Karina" model and all it needed was a new nut. I still own it 25 years later and it still plays and sounds great.

[@j-man9457]

Wow. Man very impressive. Nothing wrong with a guitar only needing a nut! I wish that were all this thing needed hahaha!

[@BobsYoureuncle]

Loved that segment that you started playing at the start ... seemed like it was kind of bluesy ... old 50's rock ish .... and some mix of honky tonk ALL mixed in . Then you caught my attention again with the music of the boy from B.C. Now that sounded just like B himself .

[@j-man9457]

Thanks man! Glad I didn't butcher it to the point that it was unrecognisable lol! Thanks for commenting!

[@danthegeetarman]

How do you find used stuff on Amazon? Do you search on the Amazon warehouse or do you just look at the bottom of the normal listings to see if it says there’s any used ones? Very curious. I love getting used stuff for this exact reason

[@j-man9457]

It's just the luck of the draw... When you are looking at an item, under the price sometimes you'll see "save with used like new" well in Canada anyways, may be a different layout for US or other countries... Anyway if that option is there click on it and you'll get an option for an open box / returned item like the one you are looking at. But fair warning, the condition may or may not be like new. Amazon's descriptions leave much to be desired lol...

[@danthegeetarman]

@@j-man9457 gotcha. Yeah I’ve seen those and yeah I’m sure it’s hit or miss. I saw one yesterday where it said it had ‘significant visual imperfections” so I steered clear of that one. But yeah I’m sure there’s a lot of cool used stuff there hiding, waiting for someone to snag it

[@j-man9457]

@@danthegeetarman yup it's hit or miss... If it's just visual I never worry about that... But you never know what you're getting!

[@bruh-ggg]

Man i was waiting to get one of those white Musi teles, delisted from amazon canada now though, too bad. Not alot of options for white teles on the cheap side

[@j-man9457]

@@bruh-ggg yeah hopefully they will be back soon! I have a few Yellow classics I'll be advertising soon if you're interested hahaha $300 CAD 😉

[@matthewjdouglas6471]

Id been practicing on acoustic for about a year and when i played on a freind epiphone through and nice old peavey bandit, i was blown away. It made me want to continue playing. Ive now ordered an 1960 epiphone les paul standard. Its on its way. Ive ordered a little fender lt25 too. Cant wait.

[@j-man9457]

Wow nice man! Enjoy!

[@DanAnderson_TheMaddestShredder]

I Have To Say! Your A Hell Of A Fiddle Player!! Its Soo Nice To Hear A Real Gifted Player Show What A Fiddle Can Really Do No Matter What The Price Of The Guitar!! As Well Your Complete Knowledge Of Why People Like Us Like Or Don't Like Is Remarkable. God Bless You, New Follower!!

[@j-man9457]

Thanks man. Never heard the guitar referred to as a fiddle before, but it's cool, 😎. Welcome to the Channel!

[@raybassman7536]

How old is that player piano? Our family had one exactly like it in 1968.... bought it used.

[@j-man9457]

It used to be my sister's. She's now 63 and it's alot older than that... So I'd say early 60s. Never looked to see if it was stamped anywhere... It's purely ornamental. It never gets played! 😔

[@davidcole5183]

So I don't understand how to order returned items?

[@j-man9457]

It's not obvious at all... Just good timing. Sometimes below the price of the item you're looking at, you'll see “save with used like new" if you click on that it will open a link to give you an option to buy a returned / open box of the item you're looking at... 😉

[@mattgreven7615]

I've never heard of that brand, but to your point--it sounds great! Maybe I should see if they make a bass...

[@j-man9457]

@@mattgreven7615 yeah they are a relatively new company. Back in May they shut down production in order to relocate to a bigger facility. Once production resumes, they are supposed to have Gibson style models and Bass guitars added to their offerings. Up until now, they have only had Tele and Strat style models available.

[@lauriemacquanan2141]

Maybe the return was bc it was too heavy y for the person or kid? Do you still have it? Can I buy it from you?

[@j-man9457]

@@lauriemacquanan2141 compared to a Fender Tele, these are light. Only 7.3Lbs. Sorry Somebody beat you to it 🙁 sold already. Only sold it because I already have 2 musi classic teles of my own, otherwise I would have definitely kept this one 😃

[@aycarumble]

That first guitar the Musi Virgo looks gorgeous out of the box, the cheap alnico 5 neck pickup is excellent as is the Wilkinson bridge perfect guitar made to perfection by Cort, how much was it ? $600?

[@j-man9457]

Regular 485, I got it used for 300$! 😉

[@BobSperber]

I sold my USA made Telly years ago and this makes me think it wouldn’t hurt at all even to get a cheap one and do minor repairs, fretwork, etc., if needed.

[@j-man9457]

Yeah for sure! Never hurts To customize a guitar to what you like! 😉

[@charlesmanthy9697]

Just How do you buy a returned guitar from Amazon? I tried various searches but came up with nothing. What am I doing wrong? Very good video btw, subscribed!

[@RichardsGuitarshop]

Ive just had my fingers burned basically highlighting this point. Seems the video was some kind of hypothetical situation for the purpose of talking about the guitars? Anyway - Who is the viewer to suggest a presentation could be in any way misleading

[@j-man9457]

Thanks man... It's not easy, it's just timing... When you click on a thumbnail of a guitar then the ad and info open up, sometimes if you're lucky you'll see written below the price listing something like “save with used like new“ and if you click on that link, it will give you an option to buy an open box/returned model. But those are not always in the inventory....

[@baneverything5580]

The 3rd string on my Dean acoustic sounds like a Sitar from fret 2 to about 8 unless plucked lightly...and it changes sometimes by the hour and sometimes goes away. I think it may be a loose brace. I was a singing drummer and a car accident damaged nerves in my arms and neck so I switched at age 35 in 2000 to be able to keep singing so I know nothing about guitars and I can only play well enough to back up my voice, so. I kept the guitar. I have no car and no place to take it to get this corrected. I ordered it.

[@j-man9457]

Ahhh man sorry to hear this. I admire your courage to keep persuing music🤘😀 Not sure what the issue would be without looking at it. If the string is buzzing on those frets, the neck might simply be back bowed. Easily corrected by turning the truss rod counter clockwise. Or maybe that one string sits too low in the nut. 🤔 I don't think it's a bad brace as if so, you'd have more than one string affected...

[@blanchae]

I bought an Amazon return Fender Precision bass. It was returned because the bridge was offset by 1/4" and it put the E string right on the fret edge of the neck. The neck was mounted straight to the body but the offset of the bridge made the bass unplayable. When you pressed the E string half way up the neck, the string would slide off. So it is not unique to low cost guitars.

[@j-man9457]

Interesting! Did you fix it or send it back? This Musi has perfectly dialed in alignment so definitely not the reason for the return...

[@timr31908]

My guess a broken crank on the side of the guitar...😊

[@j-man9457]

@@timr31908 hahahaha!

[@RAkers-tu1ey]

How, exactly, does one go about buying returned guitars??

[@j-man9457]

@@RAkers-tu1ey when your looking at one, look closely below the listed price for a “Save with used like new" option. Click on that and the link will give you the option to purchase a returned item / guitar. However they are not always available. You just have to keep checking... You can also call and speak to a rep and ask if there are any open box options for what you're looking at...😃

[@RAkers-tu1ey]

@@j-man9457 Thanks! I tried it, and it looks like they changed the name to " "Amazon Resale". No great deals today, but I will keep looking. I usually buy pawn shop wrecks, and restore them. Much better to buy closer to nice and work less.

[@DJPLAYNICE]

Where are the surplus returns going?

[@j-man9457]

No clue... Back to Amazon?? When I see the option that says “save with used like new" below the listed price and it's a good deal, I usually pull the trigger haha.

[@GtrPknMama]

I enjoyed watching you go through this guitar so much, I popped over to Amazon to see about pickin up a M Musi, but only saw the Westcreek. Nice pickin, enjoyed it all and subscribed. ✨🎵✨😎👍✨🎵✨

[@j-man9457]

@@GtrPknMama hey Thanks so much! Yeah Musi is out of stock in North America, but should be back in production this fall is what I've heard?

[@GtrPknMama]

@@j-man9457 Most welcome.✨🎵✨😎👍 Good to hear, I’ll keep checking.✨🎵✨

[@user77434]

Great review! Just curious, why don't these single coil pickups have the 60cycle hum?

[@j-man9457]

Bridge is is grounded, these have sheilding paint in all the cavities throughout, and they use insulated cloth wire on their in house pickups... That would be my guess😄

[@aznsensation44]

@@j-man9457I don't think that would reduce 60 cycle hum. 60 cycle hum is an inherent part of single coil design, that's why companies like Fender make the noiseless single coils and third party pickup companies like Kinman and Lace have spent decades trying to solve this problem. If it's hum free it's likely a different pickup design. Shielding cavities, insulated cloth and grounded bridge is basic on most pickups it might reduce some of the hum but it doesn't make it hum free. That's why the humbucker was invented was to solve the hum of the single coil P90 pickups.

[@j-man9457]

@@aznsensation44 I don't know man... But it's got to help. I have 3 of these and I never have an issue playing live through my board, lights, the whole works. Maybe it's the lithium crystals hahaha!

[@user77434]

@@j-man9457 can you turn on the gain to verify there's no hum? Are those pickups just noiseless single coils that's why?

[@j-man9457]

@@user77434 near the end of the sound demo, I had stacked overdriven pedals on and there were still no issues... I think the sheilding paint, cloth wire, grounding, quality electronics, make a definite difference!🙂

[@Timba-w7f]

Nice demo, what did the guitar cost from Amazon?

[@j-man9457]

@@Timba-w7f new here in Canada these go for $485 CAD But I got this one as a return for $300!

[@MikiBlue]

What’s the price for that guitar in Amozon?

[@j-man9457]

@@MikiBlue they are out of stock now, but the were 485 CAD. I got this one for 300$

[@MikiBlue]

@@j-man9457 ok. Thanks

[@keenedgedesigns]

I returned my Mmusi. It was a nice guitar but for $349 it had a lot of issues that were more consistent with a guitar half the price. My Mmusi needed string trees, ( strings kept popping out of the nut ) and the nut was cut way too shallow. Additionally, if you look down the neck length wise on the side where the small fret dots are you will see the fret ends don’t line up at all. It does not affect the playability but it really bothered me. I suspect since the frets are stainless they finish and crown the ends off the guitar then install them. Another thing was the locking tuner bound up on two string and felt like they were bent.

[@j-man9457]

See those are good reasons to return... But this one does not have those issues🤔

[@keenedgedesigns]

@@j-man9457 When you look down the side of the fret board on yours do the fret ends line up or are they all different lengths?

[@keenedgedesigns]

M Musi is not available on Amazon anymore. I wonder what happened?

[@j-man9457]

@@keenedgedesigns they are super even. No issues on this one at all...

[@j-man9457]

@@keenedgedesigns yeah I've been looking as well... I think they are just completely sold out. Hopefully they get new shipments and models coming in soon!

[@Mr3DBob]

I like the looks of that guitar, including the headstock. I'm not a fan of white guitars, but it looks ok on that one. How much would they have paid for that guitar only to return it later?

[@j-man9457]

Yeah this guitar looks good! They would have gotten a full refund if within the Amazon 30 day policy...

[@douglasmahar6711]

Best all around quality guitar for the buck. I love my M Musi telecaster

[@j-man9457]

@@douglasmahar6711 yup me too! Rock on!

[@tonyrobbins1665]

Very nice ! Add string trees, maybe upgrade the pickups, and it's a daily driver! I wouldn't get the white paint job though

[@j-man9457]

Thanks Mr.T! I have the blonde , the black and now the white and all 3 have been extremely consistent as far as QC and fit and finish! I put in a set of custom wound pups similar to the Labria set from SD Brad Paisley... The were half the price of the guitar hahaha... I'll say this, these stock pickups are right there along with this custom set. The stock pickups are extremely responsive to different amps and amp settings... I haven't changed them in my others as I don't really know what would be much better🤔👍

[@tonyrobbins1665]

@@j-man9457 I had a Tele from USA CUSTOM GUITARS which had an amazing! purple to black burst finish . Fantastic guitar to play and look at

[@tonyrobbins1665]

@@j-man9457 oh yes, the blondes and the butterscotch!

[@RobertoFiammata]

How do you buy a returned guitar on Amazon? How much discount do you get?

[@j-man9457]

Look for Used like new or open box guitar... It's just luck and now they are out of stock on Amazon.ca

[@mashamatt]

Ok... seriously went to Amazon to look for that first guitar and can't find it. But something about that tele speaks to me.

[@j-man9457]

@@mashamatt hey Matt, Yeah unfortunately Musi is no longer in stock in North America. I contacted them a while back and understood that they are in the process of relocating to a bigger facility that will allow them to make Gibson style models and possibly bases. But who knows 🙄 I hope they come back in 2025! 🤞

[@callfourzero1931]

Recently picked up a different brand budget guitar and loved it except for toylike tuners. I decided on a $55 upgrade and have a really good unit now. Name brand tuners in gloss black, pretty sweet and very resellable.

[@j-man9457]

Nice man! It's great to not have to spend mega bucks for good guitars anymore...

[@mannydecastro8604]

Great review! How much of a discount can I expect buying a return?

[@j-man9457]

Varies I would think... These here were 485 when I bought my 1st one new. I got this one for $329🙂

[@mannydecastro8604]

That is a beautiful guitar worth every penny

[@mannydecastro8604]

Wondering if you ever had a Harley Benton. I have a less Paul Junior and 52 telly copies and I think they’re great. I really respect your reviews.

[@j-man9457]

@@mannydecastro8604 thanks man! Much appreciated! I never had a HB before, but I am curious about them🤔 And if you like them, that's all that matters! Rock on!

[@toneydavis9802]

I have two M Musi Virgo Fusions. Fantastic guitars. I saw where Amazon may not carry them anymore so I bought the second one to have. A spare should something happen. I did a quick set up and floated the bridge on one and set the other as a hard tail. Love playing them.

[@j-man9457]

Nice man! Same here love the fusions!

[@davidmultimedia2024]

If those have the same ''rounded stainless steel frets'' and installed/leveled the same way as my Eart GW2 headless guitar, he probably returned it because the frets are wayyyyy too low profile. They level them with some sort of Plek machine, and they remove WAYYYY too much material. At least on mine, it's ridiculous and I regret not returning it. They look like they have been re-leveled 2-3 times already, straight from factory. The only reason why I don't use this guitar is because of that. Finger friction on the fretboard is a BIG issue with my guitar (especially for lead playing). Other than that, the guitar is PERFECT. Not talking about ''low action''... but ''low profile''. The action may be set SUPER low and it's totally fine, as long as the frets themselves are high enough to prevent finger friction. HARLEY BENTON Pro Series is my personnal choice for an affordable guitar, if you can find one used in Canada (like I did), or if you're willing to pay the duties.. they are still worth it even after that.

[@j-man9457]

Interesting! Thanks! No the frets on these have plenty of meat. Like bending on glass. No friction at all...

[@davidmultimedia2024]

@@j-man9457 Ah good to know that it may be just mine that has been overdone for some reason.. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just to be clear, i was talking about "finger" friction on the fretboard, and not "string" friction or the fret. They are super glassy smooth on my Eart as well.. but they are flatten on top and way too low. Glad yours has plenty of meat! I should have returned mine.. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@j-man9457]

@@davidmultimedia2024 yeah I know what you meant... That sucks. Definitely sounds like they over leveled for sure... I had an EART NK-C1 tele a while back and the frets were not flat by any means, however I did need to do a fret level on it as there were quite a few high spots!

[@MrSongwriter2]

Doesn't mean the frets were over levelled, some fretwire is 1mm high or just under new.

[@j-man9457]

@@MrSongwriter2 yeah but he mentioned they looked flat... Maybe not crowned? But that would play terribly if that were the case...🤔

[@rainerjaschke5216]

I know why they returned it. They couldn't play it the way you can. They then settled for the $89 Aamoon that sounded just as good to them. When you go out and get a good guitar and you are just learning to play the $89 guitar just makes more sense. I personally can't play worth a dam so maybe they are in my shoes and not yours. Anyway, you continue to amae me with your talent. Watching your fret hand bounce all over the neck is astounding to me. Love your vids!

[@j-man9457]

Hahaha well thanks Rainer! Very kind of you to say. But really learning on a budget guitar is fine but a poorly set up one makes the learning process longer because you are always compensating... Budget wise, I understand your point....🤔

[@brianzelinsky-ri6nd]

Awesome playing, man. That axe sounds great!

[@j-man9457]

Oh well thank you! ☺️ It's more so the axe than it is me hahaha. This thing is amazing for the price point!🤯

[@guitorb]

Mine is a beautiful vintage blue. Though I bought mine new, my experience was similar to yours. I was especially impressed with the comfort carves. Also the vintage looking rope wrap around the bridge pickup. Very cool. The neck roast on mine is a bit darker than yours. The SS frets are perfect. Reasons why someone might return a beautiful guitar like this? 1- Thought the guitar could teach them how to play. 2- A "friend" sold them on the idea of a Fender. 3- The model name. I'm cool with Virgo (that's my horoscope sign). Virgo's symbol is the Virgin. Maybe this dude thought his pals in his band would tease him. Or worse, introduce him as "ladies and gentlemen, on guitar the virgin of the group..."😂

[@j-man9457]

Hahahaha never thought of that! I'm sure glad I'm not worried about what people think of me because I'd be missing out lol! Glad you got a good one too! Rock on!

[@garettoverstreet]

How do you knowingly purchase pre owned guitars on Amazon?

[@j-man9457]

Just timing... Search "opened box guitars"...

[@Gregpas18]

They returned them because they couldn’t do what you are doing! Playing like a master!

[@j-man9457]

@@Gregpas18 hahaha thanks... Yoda is the master, I'm just a Jedi still lol!

[@PulauSwan]

The only spec I didn't hear , where was it made, can you tell me please?

[@j-man9457]

They are built overseas somewhere... Somewhere in China I suspect...

[@PulauSwan]

Yes I sussed them out, the production of Musi is temporarily halted, while ghry move to new premises /factory etc WestCreek still ok. Essentially both are related, and the Weifang prefecture , China. So they're in gitar avenue Good idea, great review, keep rockin the blues

[@j-man9457]

@@PulauSwan thanks very much... And thanks for sharing the info! 🙂

[@jayaz7781]

I agree, maybe because of the break angle issue. I have a Sire T-3 Tele, also with no string trees, and the high E string pops out all the time. I would have string trees installed on it, but the guitar doesn’t sound or play anywhere near good enough to spend a dime on it. It’s a “trade-it-in-at-guitar-center-for-$100 bucks” paper weight. What is the big deal about having a string tree to begin with, so there’s no chance of that problem? Tuning stability? On a Tele? No, nobody should have to deal with strings popping out of the nut, and that problem can get much worse if the string gauge is changed from tens to nines. Also could be the neck radius (if it’s not 9.5”). I returned (on Amazon) a fantastic sounding and superb quality Vola brand, made-in-Japan Tele-ish (forgot the model name) guitar because it had a 12” radius that I hated. Could be the neck carve - maybe it’s too “baseball bat” feeling. That can really fatigue some people’s hands. It could be something else about the neck carve that the person didn’t like. You fail to mention some very important specs. Is the back of the neck satin? Really fast and slippery?I HATE fast, satin necks. I’m used to, and, I like a neck with a coating on it; It’s not as fast, which is a good thing for me, and I use the back of the neck for friction so I can hold certain stretches without slipping. Does the fingerboard have rolled edges? Are the edges “too” rolled? I don’t like the way my Sire T-3 rolled edges feel even though their rolled edges are patented and called “Edgeless”. I guess I like edges. Could be be the stainless steel frets. I prefer nickel frets (and so does Paul Reed Smith) over stainless steel. Just a feel thing, although I would be inclined to try and deal with that, as long as they were “medium jumbo” and not “narrow-tall” (ugh) or extra-jumbo (ugh). And last, I didn’t hear any drop dead gorgeous clean tone like one would get from a good sounding Tele in the middle position (both pickups) playing a few lush jazz chords into a blues junior or other Fender tube amp with a little delay and a touch of reverb. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have it though, I just didn’t hear it.

[@j-man9457]

@@jayaz7781 hey thanks for the detailed comment. I'm surprised about the Sire. I hear they are really good... Glad to hear from someone who has one! This Musi did not need a string tree. Strings were not popping out on this one. However even with Staggered tuners, which this one has, there just isn't enough break angle behind the nut on a fender style, straight headstock, with 6 on a side tuners, so I installed one on the E & B strings. Radius on these is compound. 9.5 to 12. Great for chording down low and soloing up top🙂 Neck is a slim C shape. Fretboard does not have rolled Edges. They are smooth and not square, but not rolled over like on some guitars I've seen. Neck is not sprayed with a satin finish or a thick poly finish which I hate. These necks are Roasted. Not too slippery and definitely not Sticky! Frets are SS yes, super smooth, highly polished, feel like you're bending on glass and they are medium Jumbo. Sorry no Jazz chords here. I'm not good enough for that😕 Cheers, J-Man

[@headjammer]

how do you get one of these returned guitars on amazon ?

[@j-man9457]

When you find one look below the price listing for an option that says "Save with used like new" if that option is there you can click on it and buy a returned, open box guitar or item. You'll save money but be aware that Amazon's description of used like new isn't always accurate!

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

When looking for my first electric, I think I noodled on 13 different entry level strats at GC on 3 or 4 visits - and I hated the neck shape on all of them. (For bass, I prefer wide and flat - so old Peaveys and Yamahas.) So, it could be as simple as that. Dunno.

[@j-man9457]

Yup when the guitar itself has no major quality control issues or 0 playability issues, then yeah the reasons for a return are impossible to determine...🤔

[@markusaurelius777]

You sir.....are an AMAZING guitarist !!! Love that chicken pickin !!!

[@j-man9457]

Thanks man! Just self thought and I'm pretty rough at times but man I really love those Nashville guys,they are so amazing! 😍

[@mjolnircarlssen4211]

I think that they sounded fine. Totally playable guitars. Great playing.

[@j-man9457]

@@mjolnircarlssen4211 thanks man... Yeah these are my absolute go to guitars!🤘