Why are players booked for taking off their shirts?

[@tobbogun9420]

Tifo always answer questions you always had but didn’t care enough to ask or look up. They the real mvps

[@thierryhenry9474]

Bahahahah so trueeeee!

[@bozitrapboy]

facts 😂

[@phoenix-king779]

I swear 😂. I found them because I wanted to know why teams switch sides after half time

[@ChrisMDi]

@@phoenix-king779 do they already have a video on it or am i still lacking their video views

[@Toronteaux]

big facts

[@Gubs2]

If I was a player who scored an important game winning goal, I’d break every rule in the book while celebrating

[@stewie4467]

and you'd get booked, simple as that

[@RedRaptor7]

Aguero who scored the winner and won the title for Man City in 2012 took his shirt off and was ultimately booked after just winning the league.

[@billfarley9015]

Why?

[@clarenceonyekwere5428]

It depends. If you score a key goal in a semi-final and are already on a yellow card, you’d know not to do such

[@wthwasthat8884]

@@stewie4467 thanks for stating the obvious

[@akulmalhotra5305]

The best one was in the World Cup, when taking off the shirt got Vincent Aboubakar a red card xD

[@cabra500]

I’m Brazilian and even I admit that this was an epic move by aboubakar

[@rahmatramadhan9874]

Takes shirt off, celebrates, shakes the ref's then walks off the field. Epic.

[@shivanshsaini1]

the ref was also like, " I admit this is epic af but sorry for the yellow card."

[@NitinGupta-qm6hj]

They were the first African nation to beat Brazil in world cup. This year has lot of twist Japan winning against Germany, Korea winning against Portugal, SA winning Argentina. This underdogs performed really well, Happy to see this year world cup. 🔥

[@BajaToxic]

and then get fired by Ronaldo 😥

[@clutchcobra2729]

I’m not a Man City fan, but the Balotelli “Why Always Me?” And the last minute “Aguerrooooooo” goal to win the prem shirt off celebrations are some of my favourite sporting moments ever.

[@arunashamal]

Brandi Chastain's winning penalty is the ultimate shirt off moment in history of football

[@mmw4990]

Aguero actually should have been sent off for that as he was already and a yellow but the ref decided not to and got fined

[@chadultrapromax1735]

Messi's el Classico winner in stoppage time while being bullied throughout the match by RMA defenders is also up there.

[@chinortega3]

Iconic shirt off moments lol

[@johnnyvisera3939]

Good call, Aguerooooo was an excellent shirt off moment.

[@TheFMVids]

None of those seem like good enough reasons and seem petty. I guess the one that might hold most water is the one about them not being able to put the shirt back on time to continue play. But then you just make them leave the pitch and let them return once they've sorted out their equipment. Seems simple enough and I doubt "putting your shirt back on" is that complicated of a problem to consistently cause problems.

[@amazingkook143]

These aren't "football" jerseys that are also worn with tight fighter pads and arm sleeves. If you can't put a T-Shirt back on after taking it off, you have too tight a shirt my guy.

[@jonathan13co]

Players often throw their shirts to the fans. What then? Pretty sure that's what is mostly implied. not physically taking the time to put it back on.

[@amazingkook143]

@@jonathan13co I'm ok with giving a book if you throw it into the stands. You've taken a celebration your doing on the field to one taking off the field. Also, it might happen where a fan keeps the jersey and the game is delayed.

[@les_crow]

I'm not sure anything will be good enough for you.

[@gordon1545]

I begrudgingly accept the point about sponsors, but maybe the sanction should be a fine rather than a booking. The player taking their top off is usually paid a lot of money by the company with their logo on that shirt, and they're paying to have it in pictures and footage of goals, so that's fair enough. But it's nothing to do with the game, it's purely a financial thing and yellow cards are sporting sanctions.

[@snekarmy6198]

I remember a couple of years ago when the Chapecoense-disaster had just happened, Brazilian Vitesse-player (Dutch Eredivisie) Nathan had taken his shirt off revealing a Chapecoense-shirt with the text Forza Chape. He knew a couple of the players that died and the ref decided not to book Nathan! Truly a heartwarming moment

[@marco3391]

A couple of years ago? I swear that happened in like 2016

[@connoryoung8951]

That’s neglecting rules due to emotional reasons- he should have still been booked

[@memetown4369]

@@connoryoung8951 you must be fun

[@snekarmy6198]

@@marco3391 Yea a couple of years, it isn't decades ago or anything

[@snekarmy6198]

@@connoryoung8951 Referees can still show their human side. I am sure if Nathan was booked he would have gladly accepted the yellow card. Of course there are rules for a reason, but this is larger than that yellow card

[@hb3393]

I personally think the naughtiness of doing it now with the threat of a card actually makes it more impactful than before, kinda like a tactical foul but more fun

[@tgmartin]

None of these rules justify it being a yellow card offence. Imagine introducing yourself at social gatherings as being one of the petty little killjoys who introduced this rule. People aren't going to forget a sponsor just because a player took their shirt off for 20 seconds and if Forlan failed at such a simple task as putting his shirt back on (something that most 6-year-olds are more or less capable of doing) then that's on him.

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

👆this

[@nabell2032]

fr who tf care bout those sponsors😂

[@zacweston-edwards8849]

Tbf it’s not about forgetting the sponsors, it’s more about the fact that players celebrating are popular photographical moments and the sponsors want to be visible on these photos

[@1queijocas]

@@nabell2032 FIFA, they are the ones writing the rules

[@notsaying7018]

@@nabell2032 they do pay

[@d13g0922]

In 2010 Chile and Real Zaragoza's striker, Humberto Suazo, scored twice and in both times lifted his shirt to show a message of support to Chile after an 8.8 earthquake and the referee didn't booked him

[@falsemcnuggethope]

He wasn't booked because he didn't break the rule. He neither took the shirt off nor covered his face with it.

[@rezhaadriantanuharja3389]

I don’t mind the rule. I think the rule actually give the gesture more weight, something like “I am okay getting a yellow card because my message is bigger then myself”

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

Yeah exactly and most players still do it if it's a important goal or last minute winner, messi did it against Madrid, ronaldos done it plenty there's nothing wrong with it

[@falsemcnuggethope]

And you could still raise your shirt as long as it doesn't cover your head. That's just not as provocative so I don't think I've seen anyone do it.

[@MrCollewet]

@@falsemcnuggethope to me taking off a shirt isn't provocative at all

[@Ralelugo]

You are absolutely correct, but still the rule affects some players. A smart center back or any defensive player would never condition their game with a yellow card by taking their shirt off, so I doubt you'll ever see a defensive player (again, a smart one) taking their shirt off to celebrate a goal.

[@hi-ls6lt]

@@MrCollewet To me and you yes, but there’s definitely some bitter people who get angry at seeing the briefest of glances at anyone’s body and thinking disgusting things.

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

Arkadiusz Milik getting a second yellow after scoring the 'winning' goal for Juventus (which was then disallowed by VAR, but his red still stood) is my second favourite stupid celebration moment after in the 2014 rugby English Premiership final, Owen Farrell scored a try to bring his side level (with the chance to go ahead), kicked the ball away in celebration and did his hammie, needing to be substituted. The try was disallowed, and he watched on from the bench as his side lost in extra time...

[@aldobonaso3481]

haha it was a disaster, but you failed to mention that Milik's goal being disallowed by the VAR was a massive blunder, as there was a player by the corner flag clearly playing everybody onside, thus Milik's goal should have stood. But that camera angle was apparently not available to the VAR team, and so the goal was incorrectly disallowed, and Milik's red card for removing his shirt in celebration stood. Double whammy.

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

@@aldobonaso3481 Oh I didn't realise that! That's incredibly tough luck for him then

[@aldobonaso3481]

@@saoirsedeltufo7436 haha yes it must have been really hard for him to accept 🤣 I imagine he was sitting at home the next week, thinking to himself, I scored a perfectly legitimate winning goal in the last second of a crazy match...and here I am with no goal and a suspension 😅

[@JimTheFly]

There is no better "stupid celebration" than Bill Grammatica in the NFL, who kicked a first-quarter field goal, jumped up in celebration... and immediately tore his ACL upon landing.

[@RankinMsP]

The Farrell story is quality.

[@alexkrycek3359]

What about The FA - Law 4: The Players’ Equipment? 2. Compulsory equipment The compulsory equipment of a player comprises the following separate items: a shirt with sleeves shorts socks - tape or any material applied or worn externally must be the same colour as that part of the sock it is applied to or covers shinguards - these must be made of a suitable material to provide reasonable protection and covered by the socks footwear

[@GTAVictor9128]

Yeah, I always thought it had something to do with dress code violation.

[@davidjpeacock]

@@GTAVictor9128 this and it's just incredibly unprofessional, and these are professionals.

[@happyknife8785]

Compulsory equipment..... a shirt....they still have a shirt, they are just waving it over the head.

[@ShinjiGetsGrounded]

yeah I always figured this was reason enough

[@falsemcnuggethope]

What if you play with two shirts, one constantly covering your head?

[@penzlic]

There is just one reason and you put it really good: to protect sponsors and therefore money, everything else revolve around that.

[@NostalgiNorden]

These can all be fixed tough. 1. Allow people to take their shirts off but keep the ban against messages. 2. Time wasting can be fixed by adding more time like shows in the world cup or even better(I know you listening FIFA!) by having effective time like any other real sport. 3. Sponsors can go fornicate themselves with an iron fork.

[@VineetBhombore]

3) makes sense

[@AlbRomano]

3) Hard agree

[@elr492]

3. Allow the player to take off the shirt if he has a tattoo of the sponsor below. I am sure they will be fine with it then. Nothing screams more that they own you than stamping their name on you.

[@reikenkayzer]

Time wasting is time wasting and is a seperate offense regardless if shirts are on or off. It would be easy to book players for it and people would understand time wasting being the reason. And if it is such an issue getting the shirts on, have the player leave the pitch to do it.

[@ArturoSubutex]

Why would you ban messages though? Why shouldn't freedom of expression apply to football players? A general rule against hate speech should be enough.

[@Thotbusters]

My two absolute favourite shirt off moments will forever be Andres Iniesta's tribute to Daniel Jarque and Billy Sharp's tribute for his deceased son Luey Jacob Sharp.

[@cheifwhat]

Bit morbid

[@Yali_]

Craig Beattie did something similar to the Hannover player in the Scottish Cup semi-final in 2012. He scored a 92min penalty to give Hearts the lead, took his top off, and started twirling it in the air as he ran around the racetrack that circled the pitch. He only got a booking for it, but imagine potentially missing a cup final against your club's biggest rivals because of a celebration for a last minute winner 😳

[@RedRaptor7]

Sergio Aguero who scored the winner and won the title for Man City was booked for taking his shirt off after just bagging the winner.

[@nurrr897]

This was interesting! Was expecting something like a John Arne Riise inspired spate of shirt removals to be the cause, but all of this made sense.

[@Chiyenworkout]

This regulation was only made because FIFA hates free speech

[@zardsire2012]

There is no law against taking off your shorts. CR7 take notes.

[@joepiekl]

There is. Ask Stephen Ireland.

[@bradnotbread]

_Harry Kane was booked after celebrating his goal by removing his shorts and performing a windmill._

[@MickeyThomas408]

2 of the best moments of players celebrating this way that I can remember was Messi’s last second winner of the 17’ El Classico when he held his shirt up towards the section of Barca supporters, while the rest of the Bernabéu was stunned in silence. After crossing himself, the ref showed him the inevitable yellow, and Messi gave him the old 😉 The second has to be Mario Balotelli after scoring against Germany in the 2012 Euro

[@ugenthiraagerrard2840]

Yeah just like a few months later Ronaldo scored a stunner and Silenced the whole Camp Nou in Supercopa Final. He also held his shirt high before getting a yellow.

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

The Messi one a camerman managed to get a shot where Messi had let go of one side of the shirt butnit still hung in the air too. Which is such a great picture.

[@stefankatsarov5806]

Wasnt that also his 500th goal.

[@surojitbhattacharyya8428]

@@ugenthiraagerrard2840 And later got another yellow and a red card for diving 🤣

[@ugenthiraagerrard2840]

@@surojitbhattacharyya8428 still butchered barka, silenced camp nou and floored pique. Anything you wanna add?

[@jonathan13co]

I always figured it's an extension of the law regarding the player's equipment, where it explicitly states what a player can/cannot equip and what is mandatory about his outfit. Obviously taking your shirt off at any part of the game violates that rule, goal celebrations are no different. If players begin exploiting a rule that has no actual punishments, it's only natural that rule will be changed to also warrant a ticket. Some players can use it to their advantage, however, just like iago aspas did 😅

[@t1lt252525]

Maybe but then wouldn’t that mean players should get booked when they change their boots? I dunno, still seems like a bit of a petty interpretation of the rule

[@Jungfrun1]

@@t1lt252525 would depend in where you do it and why. If you are doing ut because your shoes broke you are following the rule by replacing them as they are mandatory equipment. If you are doing it off the pitch and out off play the rules does not yet apply to you, like with substitutes wearing jackets that they take of before going onto the field. If you suddenly kick off your shoes and continue playing you've broken the rule, as it would force the ref to stop the game in order to tell the player to put his shoes back on.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

@@t1lt252525 If you change your boots to celebrate a goal you will be booked.

[@tyanaichigovera7308]

The Forlan narrative with the hint of sarcasm as the ref can't miss him on the pitch got me in stitches 😆.

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

They did him dirty with the drawing though

[@kwazilucas]

Tifo is the greatest football channel ever on KZbin. I never thought about why are players penalized for taking off their shirts but I did need to know. 😂

[@johnoloo9527]

The reasons are puerile

[@bilderberggg]

Imagine being told your message is provocative probably saying "Stop War." Yet deciding not to wear a LGBTQ arm band or shirt with numbers coloured in the LGBTQ flag because of your beliefs is provocative.

[@MikeMadari]

So, could a player remove their shorts in celebration, or would that also be considered “provocative?”

[@pedestrian2530]

Video: ends. Everyone: frantically searches for videos of shirtless Diego Forlan playing football.

[@jkbuckeye1]

Yeah, I think it’s mostly the overcelebration thing, which probably ties in a bit w/ time wasting in general

[@falsemcnuggethope]

Time wasting and provocation. You can still reveal a message from the shirt underneath while hiding the sponsors.

[@borisjerkunica4442]

My understanding is once Brandi Chastain took her shirt off in the 1998 world cup a debate was initiated. FIFA didn't want women doing that (since some countries in the world would find that offensive) so the women pointed out that the men were doing it and thus the law came about for both men and women.

[@stevphen]

Is there any evidence that the rule change was in any way influenced by sponsors being upset about their logos / marketing messages being obscured by shirt removal? Honestly I would not doubt at all that was a factor, but was wondering what concrete evidence there is of that (and if any sponsors pushed to introduce the rule changes).

[@pogonarugeorge3504]

I would love to find that out, the last part. So I know to never ever buy their products again :))

[@TheSlySight]

I can remember the news reporting on sponsors being annoyed by it and complaining to Footballing bodies back before it was banned.

[@elPedroGuerreiro]

Jardel when he was playing in Sporting used to take off his shirt to publicize Guaraná. Yellow cards started after. Then he stated taking his shirt and using the slogan, but change the name of the brand to something else. After yellow cards started to come as well. Nezt season, some players in the Portuguese league started taking off the shirt, but instead of having a shirt bellow, they wpuld show a temporary tatoo. So after a while, every player that took hia shirt got booked. So i think Jardel and the Portuguese league were key in this rule

[@omadduxo]

It's mostly because of time wasting and over celebration. In the years before the rule was changed it was really unbearable how players celebrated goals with taking the shirt off, running to the fans, waiving their shirts and taking forever to get back on the pitch. This is also the reason why players now can be booked for jumping over billboards and/or jumping in the stand to celebrate with the fans. A little side note about climbing fences. It's not just punishable because of time wasting but also because of security reasons. A player in germany (i think it was at a third division game) climbed up the fence to celebrate, got his wedding ring stuck in the fence while jumping down and ripped his ring finger off. Idk if climbing the fence was already forbidden at that time but because of this incident the IFAB implemented the rule that all jewelery has to be taken off or has to be tapped over.

[@Rassalcon]

So book them for time wasting...

[@TheEyeball37]

Why not just tweak the rule to give players a yellow for jumping into the stands (because of time wasting) but not for taking off their shirt? Those are two separate things.

[@DynoKea]

1. Sponsors - The obviously suspected reasons. They paid for a billboard, not to be tossed on the grass 2. Over Celebration - I mean, I kind of get it but this isn't going to do anything. You score the big winner you just take the booking 3. Messages - I mean this feels unnecessarily harsh and also like it's covered elsewhere 4. Time Wasting 5. Shirt Replacement - 4 & 5 feel the same, but if the shirt isn't on quick enough, you've got to do it from off the pitch.

[@customch33s32]

I think getting a yellow card sends more of a statement when you do take of your shirt. The goal was so impressive, the written message was so important that it was worth a yellow card

[@seanfetta]

I feel like the card almost makes the celebration better or more impactful especially when it comes to messages underneath because your showing that it’s more important to you than the booking.

[@goldust3212]

I believe it made it more special for those very special moments, Aguero, Deeney's celebrations would never be more special if there was no yellow card for it and it was also commonplace in football

[@willyum3920]

so in conclusion, they want to protect the sponsors.

[@gromcom]

If I remember correctly there was a player in Italy who severed his finger off when climbing the fencing while celebrating so the no climbing the fence seems like a sensible rule to have.

[@FrankB69]

I can’t remember his name or the team I think it was in the championship, but there was a player who’s sun had died not long after being born. When he came back to playing in the 1st game back he scored a goal then took his jersey off where he had a T-shirt that said “ for you sun” and the ref didn’t book him It was good to see common sense some times in life

[@scipioafricanus2212]

@hfc maybe he was referring to the sun tabloid 😂

[@tanveernarula2378]

The player was Billy Sharp

[@falsemcnuggethope]

@hfc3696 and they did it twice so it was intentional

[@lonestarr1490]

What would happen if a player takes off his shirt to reveal the exact same shirt underneath?

[@falsemcnuggethope]

It has been done and booked for.

[@lordbotato7175]

We all know the real reason is because of the sponsors in the shirts.

[@andreacaprotti7544]

I think the Totti celebration with the "6 mitica" shirt for Ilary is considered unanimously in Italy as the single-most romantic in our collective memory

[@SomeonePreet]

This rule led to one of the most iconic moments from Ronaldo and Messi…

[@Brunix7000]

in the VAR era where no one knows what a penalti is, or what a handball is, it’s sort of reassuring to have a clearly specified rule (like goal-line tech)

[@Yeaahh2]

It is not fair at all certainly in knockout tournaments.

[@twizla3575]

Because when they score and all the cameras are on the goalscorer, you can't see the companys logo if he takes the shirt off. That's a big commercial loss and the real reason behind it

[@usedsweatpants799]

The player should be booked if they display political , religion or provocative message. Scoring a goal and taking the shirt off to show a message " Happy Birthday son " or simply take it off in the heat of the moment and get booked for it is nothing short but absurd. The real reason they can't take off the shirt is because of the sponsors and nothing else. As usual , money comes first and the show second

[@Chiyenworkout]

This regulation was only made because FIFA hates free speech

[@falsemcnuggethope]

You can still show messages you have underneath without getting booked. That's not the problem. And hiding sponsors is also ok. It's the provocation and killing the flow of the game that the rule successfully reduces.

[@lwazihlatshwayo4785]

Can you please do a video on Back Passes I don't really understand those

[@ryan5752]

While i am of the opinion that the mentioned reasons seem fair enough, i think a middle ground can still be struck imo. For example, as mentioned, tribute related celebrations, such as the one with Iniesta, should be allowed in my view. I think in this case, the context , and the intended message of the celebration should be taken into account, and if it isnt inflamatory in nature, then it should not be carded imo

[@jacksonmcquade7888]

But what is "inflammatory in nature"? If a Ukrainian player takes off his shirt in celebration to reveal a heartfelt message to his home country, most of the world might think of it as a positive, but the Russian owned sponsor on the jersey might not. It's too vague for a ref to make that decision

[@Jungfrun1]

Better to make a rule absolute so that we don't have to rely on the refs. If we don't football will end up like NA hockey where as long as you don't hit a player with your stick to many times or to high your fine even if its against the rules. Who decides what to many or to high? The refs.

[@ryan5752]

@@jacksonmcquade7888 i get your point, although judging by the current climate one could reasonably intepret that as a political message and thus it warrants a card for sure. Im just thinking like for example, birthday messages, tributes to legends or friends etc, those should be excused imo

[@Darwinek]

@@jacksonmcquade7888 Then the decision should be left with disciplinary committee post-game.

[@anonymousperson3023]

@@Jungfrun1 High sticking is an absolute rule though. You can't hit a player with your own stick in the face with the exception of the stuck being a follow through

[@abdirazaqhussein3262]

#1 Reason protecting sponsors investment at highly photographed moments........AH! Open and shut case.

[@Cha0sMaster]

So basically, this rule is for sponsors to not miss out on pretty pictures.

[@chidubem826]

Juventus vs Salernitana. Milik scores in injury time, takes off his shirt. Gets a second yellow, gets sent off. Moments later VAR disallows goal.

[@Abdulnajib]

I don’t remember Aubameyang getting yellows for the mask celebrations

[@blast473]

Same question

[@abdubinyaameen6188]

Neymar got a red for it

[@the_luggage]

I remember the Forlan incident; it seemed his shirt had a complicated inner layer which had turned inside out and he just couldn't figure it out 🤣

[@jetlifari]

I always thought they made it a yellow card offence for men because when the female players started taking their shirts off in celebration there was an uproar against that behaviour and the justification back then was that the guys were doing it so FIFA then made it an offence for everyone...

[@tobiathon80]

I think it's fine for women to take theirs tops off at times of celebration.

[@dubbaphatt3368]

I don’t understand the compulsion to take off your shirt when you’re excited. I won 10 grand on a scratch card yesterday, shirt remained on. Wasn’t even tempted.

[@djbowen76]

Aubameyang had quite a few different masks in his time at Arsenal, including Black Panther /Wakanda celebration following the passing of Chadwick Boseman.

[@NostalgiNorden]

Who?

[@dannottage5557]

@@NostalgiNorden Aubameyang, plays for Chelsea

[@Almond19912]

There are 2 that stand out to me. In the first match after the king power helicopter crash, Dimari Gray was booked for scoring the winner agsinst cardiff and revealing a message to rge former owner. The other was a clip of a lad being substituted, taking his shirt off as he walked off the pitch, and getting a 2nd yellow. I am unsure if they werent allowed to make the sub since he was now dismissed.

[@clarencedhege1]

After watching this , the no shirt rule is actually quite stupid. How will putting on a shirt take time ? Some messages under shirts are nice. Such a nonsense rule.

[@billfarley9015]

You're entitled to your opinion. I think taking off your shirt during a game is actually quite stupid and childish too. Football got along for decades without it.

[@starwave8228]

What Fifa could do is make an allowance for when a player want's to pay respects to a person whom has passed away, by allowing a display of a picture of the person only. No written messages or slogans. That way, The showing of a picture of a person on a shirt can be exempt from language barriers & there would be no confusion with the Referee about nature or intent of the gesture... id take a yellow to pay respects to somebody i knew.

[@falsemcnuggethope]

You don't need to take the shirt off to reveal a message. You can reveal a message without getting booked.

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Growing up in England in the 1970s and 1980s it was normal for guys and boys to not wear a top when it was warm in summer. It changed during the 1990s. Why? Foreign culture influence? People getting fatter? I was in Spain in the summertime on holiday and I had a lady in the street ask me to put my top back on. On a street in a seaside resort. It was over 30°C. :-) :-)

[@OzyMandias13]

There are still proud fattys displaying English beef at Newcastle matches.

[@marioreds7826]

The one actual reason is that sponsors pay to be associated with these young "winners" and are particularly interested in having their name clearly visible when the player scores and celebrates. So it's all about the sport kowtowing to sponsors. Every other reason officially given is a petty cover.

[@emptiness018]

its simple. money. they want the shirt with sponsor to be visible on tv when celebrating

[@michellecornum5856]

Thank you for the explanation. Clear and precise.

[@Shad0w5carab]

My biggest pet peeve in football. Absolutely ridiculous rule, but as with most things in modern football money is the only thing that matters 🤷‍♂️

[@abuibu]

Recently a player scored a late goal, took his shirt off in celebration, received a second yellow because of it and was sent off... VAR then disallowed the goal.

[@tredaviousbowser7931]

It’s excess celebration warranted a yellow card. Why is that hard to understand

[@darlingboyMMA]

because it's a stupid rule

[@tredaviousbowser7931]

@@darlingboyMMA you clearly missed the “excess” part

[@big-man-c77]

because a) most fans disagree, and b) this goes into further detail as to why

[@bungaIowbill]

Let's say you score, and calmly jog back to your half while taking your shirt off to wipe some sweat from your forehead and putting it back on. Is this excessive compared to keeping the shirt while doing a back flip, knee sliding, running around screaming, dancing, kissing cameras and posing?

[@NostalgiNorden]

@@tredaviousbowser7931 You clearly missed school

[@MegaSavvis]

I've also heard that the rule was introduced after a female player took off her shirt to celebrate, which people were unhappy about. To avoid accusations of sexism, shirt-removing had to be banned for both genders.

[@barakb1992]

Yes, brandy Chastain in the 1999 world cup final

[@Inkyminkyzizwoz]

My Dad fully supports the rule, saying that taking shirts off is 'exhibitionism', but what method of goal celebration isn’t? Is exhibitionism really enough of a reason to ban something?

[@eaubert1]

Much of this has to do with a petty mindset in professional football. FIFA and UEFA make up new rules for the sake of making rules and once they're in place, there's no arguing with them. Famously, the tv camera crews in stadiums have been instructed not to show any streakers or even spectators lighting flares. Equally, there had been a rule that any player requesting an opponent to be booked with a yellow card should in turn receive a yellow card. That is equally absurd, as the player is oftentimes just stating the obvious.

[@abdirazaqhussein3262]

Senegal winning goal vs France for the opening game for WC 2002 was one of the best memories as 16yr old as it was unfathomable to me that the team I seen win the 98 WC and the Euro 00 would be beaten and thus the birth of the cup holders curse. France 22 is different as they imploded and families fought at the Euros.

[@judevector]

Wow wow do you know in my life I haven't even bother to look this up but you guys just gives me the answer

[@eurekacomment5719]

Another reason is because it's considered immodest in some countries and UEFA/FIFA don't want to upset people in those countries....and sponsors and money....so consider it a yellow to dissuade...

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

Much respect to Diego Forlan's 'distinguished' hair! These sorts of errors happen quite often in otherwise excellent videos.

[@DavidMrKidcolombia]

What if fifa just had a mode where you have to unlock the shirtless celebrations on fifa when you score a late gaming mode where the game was intense and you still get a yellow because that would be dope. I'd buy it just for that. I'm also very baked rn

[@Stopreadingmyusername23]

The coldest one was Messi’s winner vs Real Madrid in 2017

[@filipesiegrist]

I like it the way it is. Automatic yellow, no referee interpretation involved. Yellow booking gives a depth to the celebration.

[@nimroddormin9844]

If I remember correctly, a player of the German 2. Bundesliga lost his ring finger after climbing the fence in celebration and then jumping back down after the ring on his finger got accidentally stuck between the fence's metal fixtures...

[@YoJesusMorales]

I always thought it was time-wasting, but the one with the sponsors not showing when celebrating a goal seems more important, they should have the ads in the shorts only, lol.

[@fettslasken2405]

The real reason is that everyone was sick and tired of seeing John Arne Riise without a shirt

[@oharepd]

You've missed the original reason it was brought in.... That in many countries around the world, a bare torso is considered offensive. Given the global nature of the games nowadays, even if it doesn't happen in those countries, the chances are they are watching on TV. That was the one fundamental reason it was brought in.

[@Michael-tk9mx]

From my understanding, I haven't watched this video fully. Was that it blocks view of the sponsor during the most important moments, eg scoring a goal

[@bongs_esc]

I’m surprised that Manuel Benson of Burnley wasn’t booked this past weekend after celebrating on 2 separate occasions by lifting his shirt up to show a message (vs Bornemouth in the FA Cup)

[@wernerstapela4616]

Maybe the question should be the other way around: why must players take off their shirts if they know full well that it's a yellow card offence. There are pleeeennnty of other options. As a coach, manager or owner it would drive me nuts, and can only be seen as ill discipline. I would this advocate a fine on top (by the club) in professional football, as the player is potentially limiting use of the club's resources (player's services).

[@catdaily5727]

First of all sorry for my english :P It was sunday league quarter final, some district football tournament, when i scored last minute goal against the opponent. It was an easy goal, corner, crowded with players, just tuck the ball and it's in! I ran, took my shirt off, threw it to the air and screaming like a madman with my team mates. Taking off shirt like the ultimate celebration! You should know how it feels! :)

[@Neos_Inferno]

Players showing their respects should not get booked, especially close family, i find it distrespectful

[@DimmyV]

Identification problem 😂 this is definitely something I disprove of. I want to see passion in the game and if its a meaningful goal, late winner etc then year I want to see the players enjoy that goal with their teammates.

[@coopaloopmex]

Fantastic. I know this rule, but I never knew that I did actually care for such in depth investigation until today

[@sehu1291]

Paulo Diogo once got his ring finger wedged in the fence during a match when he climbed up to cheer and tore half his finger off when he jumped back down.

[@chesshead]

If they allowed it, then shirt sponsors would want to pay less in sponsorship and the clubs could decide within themselves whether or not to allow their players to do it.

[@LucasOliveira-tt2ll]

I remember when Frédéric Kanouté played for Sevilla and put his hand over the shirt sponsor when celebrating goal because as a muslim he doesn't agree with gambling. That after years wearing a jersey lacking the sponsorship

[@MastinoNapoletano420]

Its because of money...players were promoting their personal brands and UEFA and FIFA both did not like players getting free marketing.

[@cjeb673]

Seeing how prevalent diving is in our sport, maybe we should focus more on penalizing simulation instead of “over-celebrating”. I wonder how quickly diving would stop if an automatic red would be given for obvious offenses!

[@psyaviah]

"Happy birthday" => very hurtful and provocating! It remains a stupid rule, even with the sponsorship and other explanations. And for the fact one player is delaying or can't put the shirt back on, you can place a time limit at the very least, and then apply the yellow card. The other rules for a yellow-card I understand, but the all the intentions & reasoning to give a yellow immediately for removing of a shirt, I simply can not. It remains absurd and even if it delays the game, one can simply put a vague "delay/timing" rule if it's excessive.

[@leodb3894]

Personally I think protecting the sponsors is a weak argument. If I was a footballer I’d keep my shirt on and hide the sponsor by folding the sponser in, or hiding it with my arms. It’s a game, not an advert.

[@WassimMurr]

Starting the video, I was sure there’d be a very good reason for this rule; I was dead wrong.

[@gwinter93]

Happened to Demari Gray when he revealed a sentimental message in honour of Vichai, the Leicester owner, who just days before had died in a helicopter crash.

[@jeremyhndy]

None of these justifications are valid. Football is about emotion and players should be allowed to express themselves after all of the pain and hard work they endure to make a big moment happen. I don’t care about sponsors or the fact that one player had a hard time putting their shirt back on.

[@duran9664]

I remember they used to book players for not tucking their shirts into their shorts 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@MusicUniverseGermany]

That double yellow = red card send-off from 2012 against Huszti was such a idiotic decision tbh. from the ref. one card would have been enough, its not even the case that every ref even gives a yellow card for celebrating at the fence. I was in the stadium that day, incredible to see that goal but that messed up card decision was indeed a serious killjoy

[@Magicalfluidprocess]

Obviously it’s the sponsors complaining about it end of