Why Are We Sinking? It's Not What We Thought! E167

The bilge is still dry so we cruise through the night to Chub Cay. A few theories fall by the way side as we try to solve the mystery of where the water came from. It wasn't what we thought. We were sinking ourselves!
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[@markbarry9945]

While in college studying for my pilot's license, I took an aircraft accident course and the one thing all aviation accidents have in common is that it's almost never just one event that leads to an accident, but rather it's a series of small events, and complacency is almost always a factor, just as Ed admitted, great video breakdown!

[@pzmerlegregory6369]

Agreed! Specially in aircraft maintenance! It’s NEVER a singular event that leads to catastrophe. Thankfully during My 20 years of service I was never a cause. If I ever felt something was moving too fast or things were being assumed we started from scratch and did it again slow and steady until all boxes and paperwork were done correctly.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I agree. It took many different small events/mistakes for this to happen. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!

[@jimfromri]

A couple of things in this video really stand out for me. First, I was impressed by your post problem analysis. You didn’t shy away from accepting responsibility for things that you could have done better and will do differently next time. Your analytical approach maximizes the learning potential from any challenge. Second, it’s encouraging to see you always willing to roll up your sleeves and tackle a boat problem or project. Thanks for making and sharing your videos. I’m a sailboater, but I definitely enjoy watching your channel.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. I appreciate your comments. We try to keep our videos as real as possible, and sometimes that means admitting our mistakes. The "rolling up the sleeves" part is because I am cheap! 😁 Actually it is a necessity when doing the type of boating that we do. There is not always someone there to help.

[@billdomb]

We love our Mantus anchor for the Bahamas. And the anchor you show LOOKS small for your boat. And also should discuss how much CHAIN you have out. Much of the hold comes from the rode.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It is on our short list for a new anchor. Ultra, Rockna and Mantis. Lyn prefers the Ultra. We let out 9-1 that night, all chain.

[@jwyzdm]

Thanks for the update and the thoroughly honest review. The best lessons are those learned by others misfortunes. All your viewers including myself will be better prepared because of this video. Thanks for taking the time.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I appreciate that! Thanks.

[@MrOpaulo]

So happy you found and repaired the the leak I probably don't have to say this but double clamp every through hull

[@bradwhite6254]

Thanks for going over what went wrong. I'm going to take your hard earned lessons and make a some changes to what we do when anchoring out.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jimmerriman6920]

Blueberry Martini Lyn? Sweet choice!

[@jride632]

Your lessons learned are now our lessons learned. Thank you for sharing!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for watching!

[@deantaylor3786]

Mantus M1 for sure. I have a 105lb on my 53 Carver.

[@jacobp7289]

Its a really nice interior in that boat. Looks so cosy and like a home living room.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@AdventuresofHappyOurs]

Great video! Thanks for the explanation and the things to worry about using that anchor drag app!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stephencarter6634]

Great learning points 👍

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Glad you think so!

[@craigr2048]

Good after action review and candor. We can learn from your experience.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@viperscratchoffs]

I'm glad you all are ok and found the problem. No one's perfect my friend your only human , you all did a great job on making sure you didn't sink and every one was safe. Again you have a amazing channel and I've enjoyed all your videos since you started out from the beginning, I don't miss any of your videos . See ya on your next adventure have a great night 🙋👻

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks so much. It was certainly a learning experience for us. New video coming out this afternoon!

[@allenharttrading5573]

wow great story, glad all is well ... appreciate the videos !!... I'm learning a bunch from you guys !! -- TY

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Glad you like them!

[@xkanuk7190]

God bless you guys. Us mortals learn so much from your experience. Really appreciate your humility and candor.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks! We are glad you like the videos. We try to be educational when we can.

[@mvconcorde5243]

Wow, Ed! If this isn't a prime example of the need for redundancy of systems, I don't know what is! Thanks for passing along your plans to use AIS as the main anchor alarm and relegate the phone app to backup status. That one's going right into my SOP for Concorde. Glad all worked out, all is well, and things are shipshape and Bristol fashion on Triton. Fair winds and calm seas man!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It was definitely a learning experience!

[@leonard7736]

Very interesting videos you have. Hello from Arizona City, Az.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Glad you like them!

[@rikspector]

Ed and Lynn, I am so happy that all is well for you'all., you just never can anticipate everything. Remember though, "Its better in the Bahamas" Cheers, Rik Spector

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That's for sure. Cheers!

[@robhowen]

Good analysis and debrief. I find value in learning from you and other boaters.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I appreciate that!

[@bradwelch4076]

Look at the line of Mantus anchors before you buy. Highly recommended

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It is on our short list for a new anchor. Ultra, Rockna and Mantis. Lyn prefers the Ultra.

[@darrylb4048]

Good on you guys for sorting it all out.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@hunterromeo1]

WOW! A lot to be taken in and learned! Really appreciate the break down of what happened .

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. Glad you liked the video.

[@markp6334]

Wow, amazing how all those things needed to line up for this to happen. Some good changes will come from this one incident. Glad it wasn’t worse. Thanks for the learning experience! Maybe we’ll run into to you guys in Titusville. I occasionally smoke cigars at the Leaf too. We live in the area and have used that boat ramp many times.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It is amazing! We have been to the Leaf a couple times. The whiskey bar as well.

[@darrylb4048]

Maybe I wouldn't use the words RUN INTO, for awhile.... LOL

[@dwtrksvc]

Just glad you're safe and that the damage was minimal.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. It could have been a lot worse.

[@kevinhoffman8214]

thanks for the in depth interview

[@tryingnottosink9107]

You are welcome.

[@JScott-pt6hm]

Incredible!! well look forward to next video be safe!!!! CHEERS!!!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@alanclark6893]

Great job saving the boat and your decisions! We always do the What we did Right and What we did wrong after an event! We also switched our danforth anchor out for a Manson Supreme and have never had a problem! Fair winds S/V Anam Cara Alan & Eileen

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We are in the process of purchasing a new anchor. It looks like we will be going with a Mantus.

[@topshelf321]

Life is a learning experience. I like how you all take to time to dissect the accident and learn what all had to go wrong to make this happen. That is the best way to prevent it in the future. Hey at least you haven't sunk yet. :)

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Trying not to sink is our main objective!😁

[@mccannmike]

Lynn, love the matching martini and top. Sorry for the degeneration, but thankful you guys are ok and solved the mystery. Great problem solving skills under duress. We all should learn from you success. Many thanks.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks so much! She always dresses for the drink! 😁

[@csranch2000]

Great video! Always good to critique ones self and what happened. We all learn from our mistakes and timing. Love you guys!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Yes! Thank you!

[@rabukan5842]

You all did well as so many things going wrong at once is rare, but on the water, can eventually happen. You kept your cool and figured it out. One thing, my Riva 50’ came with a SS Danforth anchor worth $8,000. I immediately put it in storage and bought a 30kg Mantus for $800 at the time. Best anchor I ever had and have used it in sand, clay, mud, and even grass. The thing digs in and resets like no other anchor I’ve ever used, except maybe an Ultra. Worth every penny.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for the info. We have it narrowed down to Mantis, Ultra and Rockna.

[@rabukan5842]

@@tryingnottosink9107 all 3 are great anchors. I think my Mantus resets better than my Rocna did, and is about the same as the Ultra, but 1/3 the price unless you go SS.

[@gfroese4799]

In the perfect world , nothing ever goes wrong and you never make mistakes .

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Definitely not the world I live in!

[@SVBooger]

Mantus Anchor over any others. Also increase your chain length. For all of your anchorage you should be chain and a bridle. Look at Mantus swivel too

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We set out 9-1 rode, all chain. It should have been sufficient. We are looking at the Mantus and the Rockna.

[@campervanmark3410]

Glad pretty boat ok......OUTSTANDING

[@tonymarx28]

Excellent content and greatly appreciate the list of what went wrong…

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@billjeffery2419]

the stars lined up just about right for all that to happen ,glad to see that you and your boat are okay.good video

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It is amazing how many things had to go wrong!

[@donames7274]

Physically speaking those captains bars get heavy at times like this. Due diligence observed and commendable. Outstanding job diagnosing practically instantly. Thank you for sharing. This navy vet appreciates that.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Always exciting! Thanks for watching!

[@donames7274]

Been watching for a while. Ever since your carver. Nearing retirement now and looking forward to the loop cruise. Hopefully our wake crosses.

[@thewarrior3035]

Love your videos good stuff y’all are living the life, I’m from Fayetteville NC be blessed be safe

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for watching!

[@rgronback]

Very informative, great follow-up video. Don’t beat yourselves up too much, and enjoy the Basil Hayden’s 😂

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We always bounce back. I don't worry about things like this. Boats are safe in harbor but that is not what boats are meant to do.

[@karaDee2363]

Glad you figured it all out and repaired it... Cheers! 🍸🍹🍸🥂👍

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@bobcathey8903]

This video was very interesting and educational. A nice follow-up to the last. This type of boating is not for the casual boater. Lot's of learning, planning, research, training, experience, etc., are needed. Start slow and build your way up to these types of adventures should be one of the lessons for your viewers. Glad you are safe! Safe cruising!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I agree. We are five years in and still have so much to learn.

[@dirtyoldfarmhand3]

Awesome

[@rogerroy911]

We use a Mantus also, never had any problems and sets very fast. We also have a rocna, its a great anchor but the mantus is better because of the fast set. If you put them side by side on the dock you can see why. The Main reason the mantus sets faster is the angle of the shank.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That is interesting. We are considering both of those anchors and plan to buy one at the Annapolis Boat Show.

[@rogerroy911]

@@tryingnottosink9107 my Rocna is a heavy anchor, but my go to is the 10 lb less Mantus . We cruise West Florida ( Destin area ) sandy bottom. As you know when buying your new Anchor over sizing is a great idea if it fits on your bow. I would recommend 2 sizes larger then the anchor calls for on the size of your boat. Cheers

[@georgepaddle3598]

As for your anchor choice…it’s like asking a truck buyer if they are a ford or Chevy guy…they can’t see beyond their own opinion…we had you same dilemma before our 7 week Bahama trip last spring. Rocna and Mantus seemed to be the Chevy/Ford. We bought a M1 Mantus one size larger than our boy needed. We had many 30mph nights in the Bahamas on our trip…pretty sure we didn’t move an inch.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I agree. Both would be much better that the CQR we are using now and lightyears better than the Fortress in the Bahamas. I'm a Chevy guy, by the way.

[@georgepaddle3598]

@@tryingnottosink9107 ha…I am a ford guy…so u better get the Rocna…lol. As u pointed out…it’s all about what the bottom material is to define the best anchor…from what I saw, you can go wrong with either

[@TomFreireich]

You know what I love about this video and you guys, Is how real you are. We’ve been on the boat for 40 years of various sizes and had all kinds of troubles. I love the fact that you expose it review with that wrong and make sure you analyze and correct. Our goal is to get our smaller boat sold and we are upgrading to some thing similar to you so that we can do a little more travel on the water. Hope to see you out there and safe travels. Awesome job

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We try to be as real as possible. See you on the water!

[@davida877]

Lyn your comments are priceless and add something light hearted - in serious circumstances - those attached to hull sea chests are a pain should be integral to the hull - that wiring near the prop shaft coupling also may require attention - love your work Regards

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Yeah, I need to work on that wiring. It's on the list. On new Hatteras' they just made a PVC manifold on the inside and had a regular through hull. I like that idea much better.

[@terrykeever3280]

Glad you're all ok.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@chancevonfreund9145]

Wow, how scary! Glad it wasn't worse and you guys are OK. Always nice to set back relax have a drink when you get it fixed. 🥃🥂

[@tryingnottosink9107]

So true! Cheers!

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

I applaud you as usual for doing your on trouble shooting and repairs. If I had to pay someone to maintain my boat I could not afford my boat! You said you had to move your hot water heater! Why do you need to heat hot water? I have a cold water heater🤣🛫

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Our water heater is very attractive! 😁

[@RockFan410]

Captain! You did a great job! I love you both. I hope for my girl and I to meet you one day. We spent over a month in the Bahamas on our 51’ and created many memories like you guys. Our boat is named Triton as well.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Sounds good. Where is your home port?

[@robertkutz]

I AM SO HAPPY IT IS OK. MAY THE WIND BE WITH YOU.✌✌✌🏁🏁🏁🏁

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!!!

[@dcallan812]

The main thing is you are all OK and the boat is still afloat. interesting video 2x👍

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Yep, the crew comes first, but glad the boat was not harmed. Just superficial damage.

[@gerhardvanwaltsleben8944]

Lekker man lekker 🇿🇦

[@jimh.5286]

I mounted a small GPS chart plotter next to my bed. I set it on track (trace?) mode so it shows the past movements of the boat. While sleeping, I would occasionally open my eyes and glance at the screen. This would only take a second and it was very comforting to see that everything was ok. (I also have two anchor alarms).

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That is what Lyn does, usually, but not that night. She keeps a tablet on her nightstand.

[@AlbuquerqueImaging]

AARRRR! scuppers then???

[@colleenbertolino9299]

Hey Ed and Lyn! So sorry that happened to you guys, glad your okay! You could use an audio baby monitor in the bridge and your room to hear the alarm as a temporary fix until you wire it down to you room. Love your toddler parent fans lol

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That's a great idea! We won't be anchoring again until next spring.

[@ericgregory3005]

There should be some wireless set up to monitor alarm sounds(wireless sound alarm, a child monitor,etc.... so you dont have to run line. Also a bilge alarm would be beneficial or tilt/list alarm. I would think for that chest to separate there might be some flex which could cause some worry on the exterior. I know they are built like a tank but it did have to flex to make that crack. Be safe and what a life!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are looking into various different ways to set up anchor alarms, wired and wireless. We have a bilge alarm but I am adding backups as well.

[@stevenstadterman9725]

GR8 JOB,,, I LUV UR VIDEOS

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thank you so much 😀

[@debbie9998]

Very interesting video and it's informative too. By the way I love your nails Lyn.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@williamconway1287]

If I ever decide to buy a Hatteras I’m going to make you an offer . Your boat is pre-disastered and I know where the repairs are !

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Whomever buy this boat next will have the most thorough breakdown of anything that could possibly be wrong. Our videos are better than a survey!

[@jakesimpson4530]

WOWSER, couldn't wait to see what had happened . By gosh you got stuck into that problem and kicked its backside. A very well deserved few drams. Terrifically well handled.

[@tmonster2247]

I’ve been waiting to hear the outcome, every boat owners worst nightmare

[@mikeramsey9747]

Sounds like Uncle Murphy (Murphy's Law) was running rampant that night. Nice that you are so willing to discuss everything that occurred so others may not make encounter the same situations.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Amazing how many things needed to go wrong for that to happen!

[@johnmccarley6218]

First of all, good emergency management…Aviate, navigate, investigate, mitigate. Great to have crew to assist Captain. If it wasn’t a Hatteras, leak might have been much greater. I am thinking , as you are, there was a previous incident/repair. Hatteras put so much fiberglas in the hulls and overbuilt where joints occurred, I am surprised this limited contact would open a glassed seam inside the hull. I am on my 2nd Hatt for a total of 12 years….love ‘em! Oh, I always snorkel my anchor set in Bahamas in a windward anchor position.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We dived the anchor at every anchorage for the rest of the trip! I think this sea chest might have been an add-on. It was not glassed in, like the other two. And it really only handled the aft bilge and a shower sump (until I added a self-contained AC Unit.

[@davidmacsweeney1902]

Also the forteress anchor is a back up anchor not to be a main.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It is now our backup anchor.

[@IamSpectre2020]

Hi Ed, We have two anchors on board. We navigate waterways with lots of weeds and vegetation and we also boat in the Thousand Islands (st Lawrence) where we have a lot of sandy bottoms. Our Danforth is worthless in weeds, it just skims on top, great in the sand. In weeds, we use our Plow anchor which just dives right to the bottom and digs in. Hope there is not to much glass damage.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are using our CQR anchor now with the Danforth as our backup, ICW anchor. We plan to purchase another anchor at the boat show. Glass damage was not bad at all considering. I show it in a future video.

[@jastark22181]

Your GPS being shut off on your phone is a setting you can change. It's to save the battery. You should be able to shut it off or at least shut it off for that app

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I spoke with the app people and they say I must keep the app open with the screen on. In any case we are adding additional alarms through AIS.

[@blondiemvnavigator483]

The Rocha Vulcan is an outstanding anchor. We have been using the 73# version for over a year and have never dragged in our 30,000# 42’ Navigator, while cruising the Great Loop. 240’ all chain rode w/HiTest Stainless swivel.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for the input. That is how we are leaning.

[@billdomb]

When we're anchored out we routinely rotate anchor watch. Someone is ALWAYS up. (along with crew of 2)

[@AdventuresofHappyOurs]

Sea chest! I thought they were collectors but like sea chest better..lol

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I like sea chests better as well. D's are nice too! 😁

[@eldonsears8247]

My wife suggested that rather than going through the hassle of running wires from the AIS in the bridge to a speaker, get a wireless baby monitor, base unit on the bridge, and take the handset wherever you are.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That would probably work well.

[@johnlottes7440]

Good information, I'm looking at adding 1-3 seachests during my overhaul over the next 3-5tears. I didn't really understand how a Seachest worked. Thanx a bunch. Danforth anchors (I have a #35# that is my backup) can let go. My primary is a 75# plow (CQR) for a "82 Carver 3607.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are currently using a CQR but plan to get another anchor this fall.

[@jhaedtler]

Why would you want to heat hot water? See, I am paying attention! It is more commonly called a Water Heater! Thanks for the videos!

[@kevinmccann938]

yep, it's actually a cold water heater,

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Our water is very attractive!!!😁

[@rockn997]

May be in the settings for the app there is something that you could say keep the GPS on at all times?

[@bobfinn346]

Just viewed a tour of a 68 foot Princess.........yours for 2.4 Mil. !!!

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

I was hoping you would not say that the Windless Control Panel failed. ( I did predict that the windless control panel failed about a year or more ago I am still checking mail box every day) Great repair and I really appreciate your objective overview of what happened. Great job guys!😀🛫

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. I appreciate that. Cheers!

[@urbansnipe]

A few tips using fibre glass matting and epoxy resin 1. NEVER use more mekp hardener than is needed and ALWAYS keep the mixing cup with the excess after use somewhere it wont matter if it self combusts (it happens) 2. Fray the ends of the fibreglass matting before applying it makes a stonger bond as there is not a simple straight line where it could crack 3. the mating surfaces have to be clean and COMPLETELY DRY otherwise it wont cure properly and cause issues later. You did right by sanding it before hand. i find when laying up matting i cut the brush bristles down maybe in half so its slightly more rigid when tamping the matting down.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for the tips.

[@calvinb.ainsworth200]

Fyi....mek won't work with epoxy resin...its used with polyester resin.

[@robsibley885]

great video and honest evaluation. I'm not nearly as experienced as you folks are but my vote is to go to the Manson Supreme at least one size larger , maybe 2 sizes up based on your vessels weight than your boats recommended size. Those seem to be the go to for many cruisers and I had one on my small cabin cruiser and that thing set and held every single time I used it.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We plan to go anchor shopping at the Annapolis Boat Show. Thanks for watching!

[@empresswillis1971]

I thought about that on the last video because you didn't check if it was fresh or salt water. I love your trips and info you put on your channel

[@Dannny_Mac]

Oh Lynn don’t let your hubby see this but❤️

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Too late!

[@dalwilson4511]

Great show folks try a mantis that will be the best anchor you ever had

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It is on our short list.

[@waynehansen3349]

Been going to bahamas for over 40 years I always dive on my anchor to make sure it's set,I drug anchor once when I anchored at midnight and didn't dive on it to check it.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We often dive the anchor. The water was cloudy this time but we probably should have tried anyway.

[@waynehansen3349]

@@tryingnottosink9107 yeah I drug at Great Stirrup, guess it's called something else now, cruise ship island, lol

[@gusgus1562]

Every boat, no matter how big or small or how expensive, the moment it's put into the water it starts to sink. Some just take a little longer!!!!

[@CodyBosch]

Hatteras yachts are like tanks. That must’ve been some impact if it did that kind of damage happened. I’d be willing to bet that if you guys were on another boat that it would’ve sunk. Glad everyone is safe and the boat made it out alive. Triton was looking out for you guys! 🔱

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Yes, they are solid boats. All we had were scratches. We already painted over them (in a future video).

[@lkeil84]

I use a program called Anchor Lite as I did not pay for the premium. It is really a pain in the butt in a different way. If you do not have that app as the primary open screen, the display will go blank. When this happens, the phone will also turn off GPS and the alarm goes off whenever the signal is lost. Took me a while to figure out and now having this on a tablet and a phone, both plugged in with the screens dimmed. My Axiom also has an alarm, but like your equipment, it is on the bridge. I discussed the problems with anchoring in Nassau in my last comment, so beware. I have the feeling these videos are a couple of months behind though. I hope you have some luck with that CQR, but I have heard they are not great. The 33lb Bruce anchor worked great in mud and sand with zero problems for us in Florida. It does not do good on a hard bottom though. I changed it over to a 44lb Danforth after the Nassau snafus and had minimal problems with it. Sometimes in the turtle grass, it rips a ball off the bottom and now you are just dragging a soft grass ball around. I usually try to find a sand hole to drop the anchor in. Also, when the wind is blowing toward the island, I like to stay a couple of miles off Shore. I must say though, that anchoring seems to be the trickiest part of boating so far, but we got pretty good at it fast. Also, save my name and if ever in the Charleston Area when I am at home, I would be happy to assist in parts or grocery runs. This we found to be about the second hardest thing to accomplish, especially when there are just no dinghy docks near anything. Glad everything turned out alright. Charleston I just such an area. This invitation goes out to anybody on a boat in the area also. I go down to the boat every couple of days, so it is not really a problem and I love meeting new people.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That is the app we use. However, the alarm did not go off when it lost signal. I don't know why, other than them telling us it must be the primary app. In any case, we are using the Vesper AIS in the future and the app as backup.

[@esiebert7625]

No matter what went wrong the most important thing is the anchor alarm, maybe use the phones as a backup and use a dedicated anchor alarm system like Nautic Alert.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are hooking up our Vesper AIS anchor alarm for future trips, plus the phone app backup.

[@empresswillis1971]

Just to go through things that can happen during a trip just let you know it's not just a vacation you really have to work to keep a boat afloat

[@festerofest4374]

Talk about learning through experience! Cool to see the follow-up so we could see how things played out. And that was a reasonable Roger Out @ 10:57. Under the circumstances of duress, I'll take it. I will say, however, the very end of this episode might have been the perfect opportunity for a closing Roger Out. Just saying.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Roger that!

[@jacktyler7599]

Summer island weather is convective; forecasts can't be specific to a discrete location. Consider carefully at how you link that 'new' anchor to your chain rode; lots of bad choices being marketed. What and how do you set up your anchor rode's snubber? Better shock absorption that night might have delayed or avoided dragging. Glad it turned out OK.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We will be shopping for anchors and swivels at the Annapolis Boat Show. We use a snubber every time we anchor. Runs from the two bow cleats.

[@paulkelly4731]

Hatteras must have changed the design before they made my 63'. On mine, the drain lines go to a multi-inlet manifold with individual hose barbs, then an elbow to a traditional above the waterline through hull.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We have a friend with a 63 and it is the same, a manifold. I like that design much better. I think they changed to that design in the 80s.

[@craigwarren2062]

That didn't look like a skull to me!

[@tomweekes]

I have use a CQR for 30 years and never dragged however, I saw a very in depth testing on KZbin where the person had a strain guage so he could measure the pull. He rotated the boat 360 degrees around the anchor and had a video camera attached so you could see it. He also pulled them loose and saw how they reset. The best was the Spade. Rocna was good but hot a good reset. My CQR came out badly. It's a pretty old design, probably 1930d's so improvements have been made. Deltas came out OK but it's like an Iphone, everyone has one because they are pretty. Been watching you for awhile, I am in SW Fl and boat from Tarpon Springs to the Keys and the east coast of FL. Have never been to the Bahamas, tried twice, once couldn't wait out the weather and another a ground fault which caused my oil pressure alarm and gauge to show no pressure. It' s two seperate sensors so it was pretty convincing. My fuel shutoff solenoid would not work either. Came back from halfway to West End on one engine. Fixed it but my confidence in my boat was too shaken to go over to difficult to repair land. Have a 30+ year old Bayliner 3870 with normally aspirated hino diesels. Owed it 20 years and do all my own maintenance and upgrades. A friend of mine has a 58 foot Hattaras with 2 8V71's, may be 12V's . I had a volkswagen smaller than those things. Twin turbo. Not sure I could afford to change the oil!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are currently using our CQR. It worked great for the rest of our trip. We are looking at picking up a new anchor at the next boat show. We are currently down to a Rockna, a Mantus or an Ultra. But we'll see what happens. We visit Tarpon Springs once a year, by car, when we visit my mother in Weeki Wachee. We may go there by boat in the upcoming season. Cheers!

[@pzmerlegregory6369]

Maybe an aftermarket component added?

[@michiganengineer8621]

I would suggest putting a switch in line for that extra speaker for those times when you DON'T need it down below. Say for those times when one of you are up and the other is taking a snooze.

[@kevinmccann938]

Nope, why, because you may forget to put it back on.

[@michiganengineer8621]

@@kevinmccann938 True enough, I was also thinking about a pair of 3-way light switches so it could be activated from below decks or at the helm. Maybe with a "pilot light" of sorts to let you know when it's OFF would help. I guess putting up with the noise would be better though.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for the input. Running the speaker line is one of my winter projects, since we won't be anchoring again this year.

[@michiganengineer8621]

@@tryingnottosink9107 As Kevin McCann said though, forget about that switch, so you DON'T forget about it one evening as you're hitting the sack!

[@paulsaletnik9864]

Glad you guys are aok. Lynn..... ice cubes in the martini?

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It wasn't a martini. Vodka and energy drink I believe.

[@jonathanweiss3545]

Good analysis, but unless I missed you saying it, the single biggest factor is that you did not have nearly enough rode out if you dragged at all. You shouldn’t rely of the anchor to hold the boat, the weight of the 7 to 1 rode (10 to 1 in foul weather) will make for a proper hold.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We had 9 to 1 rode out. I always go a bit longer than needed, unless it is a small area. The weather was supposed to be good, or a would have gone 10 to 1 or more. Plus, we are all chain.

[@jonathanweiss3545]

@@tryingnottosink9107 If you had 9 to 1 all chain rode out and still dragged, then it is either the wrong Anchor/Chain combo for your tonnage, or that the calculation of depth (sea bottom to bow pulpit…some people just look at the depth finder figure) was somehow inaccurate or miscalculated. Not trying to criticize, just trying to figure out so it doesn’t happen again. 9 to 1 all chain would hold in almost any conditions.

[@ericmitchell5350]

@@jonathanweiss3545 it was likely some combo of poor bottom (grassy?) and a light weight (aluminum) fortress anchor. Fortress anchors are great as day anchors in sand or mud (you can adjust the fluke angle from 32deg (sand) to 45deg (mud) before you release it and set it. If you have heavy (say 3/8ths inch or bigger) chain, more scope helps obviously. But if a gusty wind shift or strong tide change comes in the night, modern anchors (Mantis or Rocna) have proven enhanced ability to reset themselves.

[@michael_A.63]

Well...it's said that everything happens for a reason,The outcome from this incident is you discovered everything you need to know about your seachest for one(the boat seachest that is,lol)plus the reliability of your alarm system that I see are the 2 main factors....oh,and you know exactly where your 5200 is located.ok it's time for me to stop.heh heh heh....your guys videos are the best.its like company right into my livingroom as I been through so many boat secenarios,myself(as a crewmember).thanks again for such a great job you two.😲👍

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It was definitely a learning experience! Thanks for watching!

[@davidlasanen7690]

You need bilge alarms to alert you to high water in the bilges!!! Im surprised you don't have them now!!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We do have them. It might not have been shown in the video but they went off just as we were noticing that we were listing. I now have secondary bilge alarms that are sent to my phone as well, in case I am not at the boat.

[@rideswithscissors]

The app on the smartphone is probably fine, but the complexity of the smartphone settings defeated it! And a dead phone battery. Switching to the dedicated AIS system does sound like the best solution. And/or keeping a watch.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

That is what we are doing.