Why Are You Like This?! | 4-Sided Dive | Episode 8: Discussing Up To C3E38

[@zerokaiser85]

I feel like Ashton's "everything hurts, all the time" is very unsung (and appreciated) invisible illness representation. I'm a chronic pain sufferer, one leg and my lower back, they haven't not hurt to some degree for 15 years, and the pain for sure doesn't just stay in those two places, it spreads and it takes a toll. I think I can tell Tallesin knows someone like me irl too, someone who's in constant pain. But that it's not done for A Bit, or just "flavour", that it's a literal statement, just, a fact; "everything hurts, all the time", I actually genuinely appreciate that kinda rep honestly. The likelihood of Tallesin Jaffe reading this is just next to zero, but I hope some day I can thank him for it

[@princessblazena]

Same... and it's hard for people on the outside to understand because they can't see it when looking at you 😓

[@zerokaiser85]

@@princessblazena mm, being in pain is our "normal" (which also hilariously makes other injuries harder to detect and/or treat), so we get good and seeming absolutely fine (FCG's "what, /all/ the time?"). I hope you're able to get even a lil respite from yours soon though, Blazena. If only for a day x

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

Agreed. It's very well done and it means a lot.

[@TartarusHimself]

I don’t think he knows that person, I think he is that person

[@zerokaiser85]

@@TartarusHimself I did wonder that too :/ I hope not though, wouldn't wish this on anyone

[@AksentNethariaFilm]

I adore the fact that back in Talks Machina the Henry cam was mostly him being a sleepy boy, and then now Omar cam is just *constant zoomies*

[@High-LordHarza]

Omar gives me life. He is such a handsome little boy. Also, I miss Henry 😔

[@mistamemewide]

OMAR ZOOMIES

[@3SmoothYoda3]

Talks was the best

[@sweebos]

Omar 🤗

[@deaconstjohn4842]

@@High-LordHarza what happened to Henry?

[@Thndrcougrfalcnbrd]

“Percy’s cane: what the fuck is up with that?!” It’s Percy. Do you think it’s NOT also a gun? 😂

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

Plot twist: the cane isn't, but it is used to access a gun somewhere on the grounds of Castle De Rolo.

[@vincentgeiszler3749]

Or it’s a cane. Maybe he could hit someone with it idk

[@starsgears9200]

@@P0rk_Sinigang it's actually just the targeting system for an orbital cannon.

[@outbreakperfected5704]

NO EVEN BETTER it’s like a bayard from voltron it’s the key to his MECH

[@Abyrae]

Bad News 2.0

[@JayCeeAleksa]

"I have three characters who just don't age." - Marisha "That seems like a cry for help." - Sam SAM YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO MARISHA LIKE THAT 🤣

[@High-LordHarza]

She is slowly catching up to being "old" like the rest of them, though none of them are actually old

[@serenityfreeman5906]

Now she needs to point out how all of Sam's characters have extreme imposter syndrome and what that says about him /lh

[@Drekromancer]

@@serenityfreeman5906 This entire thread rules.

[@High-LordHarza]

@@serenityfreeman5906 Any time someone mentions impostor syndrome the first thing I think of is seeing somewhere online someone said "Oh honey, you're not good enough to have impostor syndrome" and it haunts me. Also, I first thought you meant his advertisement characters, and then I remembered that in one ad he was playing the cast and, including himself and when he was himself he said "I need constant attention!"

[@cola98765]

Marisha: "Forever young; I want to be forever young"

[@Will_Grey]

"Percy, darling, it's been so long since Vax died, and Keyleth is still so lonely." Chetney inhabiting Sam

[@Clone6385]

I’ll say this, I’ve seen rule 34 of the three of them doing the deed,

[@DrNeonGaming]

@@Clone6385 Good ole Captain Popcorn

[@yogurtpimp]

@@DrNeonGaming A person of culture I see.

[@DankBobRoss]

What in the fuck are these comments

[@yogurtpimp]

@@DankBobRoss Magic and beauty. And hentai.

[@lanteanboy]

I can't wait for in 4 campaigns where everyone plays a Marisha character

[@jmac5454]

Or at least a one shot

[@RJeremyHoward]

Oops, All Marishas....

[@lejandario7779]

Oh right because none of Marisha's characters can die of old age... or much of anything really.

[@chaoswithkara]

@@lejandario7779 Beau can still die of old age she just doesn't suffer other effects of aging

[@SylviusTheMad]

@@chaoswithkara Eventually it will stop looking inappropriate when she beats up old men.

[@stambuthegreatmoose1198]

I don’t know if this was ever brought up but I just had a thought given how paranoid and “Batman from Batman Beyond” Percy is becoming. If Percy’s life with Vox Machina went differently, he could have ended up just like Eshteross; alone, paranoid and surrounded by boobytraps.

[@matthijsclaessen8152]

Totally!! Well seen.

[@themorrigan7224]

If Vex had died in C1, baking to keep that little bit of her memory alive for others

[@135mikerules23]

Whose to say Eshteross didn’t have his own “Vex” back in the day, and she broke things off or died because of the enemies he made in his adventures?

[@Drekromancer]

@@135mikerules23 I mean, he dodged the Hells' question about his relationship with Madam Prudaj, the Lady he inherited his estate from. I'm pretty sure they were lovers, and when she died, he pledged to carry on her legacy. Hopefully now we'll get more info on them both through that cache of letters.

[@Will_Grey]

Tal has stated Percy's goal was a violent death

[@0num4]

Marisha: "Are you cursed?" Taliesin: "No more than anyone else." Perfect.

[@gabegrether8647]

Taliesin: "Well, I am a dark and evil demonic creature, so..."

[@spacetearable]

~Marisha squinty eyes~ ...why are you like this?

[@jasonmkc7797]

Marisha: "Vex would totally be in on it, let's be real." Critter fan fic writers: Finally. Just gonna dust this off...and...publish.

[@princessblazena]

"Never throw out your first draft." -Marisha

[@shelliedisalvo6559]

DROP THE LINKS YOU COWARDS 😘😘

[@themorrigan7224]

There are so many Vex and Keyleth, we need more Vex/Keyleth/Percy! Not necessarily in that order 😉

[@shelliedisalvo6559]

Wait hold on I also need whatever “Percy & Molly in an elevator” ficlets just dropped There’s no way ao3 isn’t as fast as the live streaming Twitter artists

[@Solnai42]

@@themorrigan7224 The order would definitely be Vex/Percy/Keyleth 😏

[@tacitakoe5004]

In regards to Gwendolyn - Because it is Percy and Vex'ahlia (Espeically because it's Vex'ahlia) - with her being a Tiefling, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have gone to EVERY LENGTH to ensure she knew she was still loved and that her being different was not a sin or anything for her to be ashamed of.

[@AnxietyRat]

I think Percy would especially. Mainly, because it's HIS fault that she's a tiefling in the first place.

[@goatelope7539]

I think I'm missing something in dnd lore about how Tieflings happen

[@tacitakoe5004]

@@goatelope7539 Tieflings happen when there is devil/fiend influence in a person's bloodline. Can be a direct influence in the 'a devil banged my mom' kind of way, or indirect in a 'my dad made a deal with the devil' kind of way. So in short, Gwendolyn is a Tiefling because Percy signed a contract with the Cambion Ipkesh while the party for aid in reaching Hotis in the Hells. The contract didn't even have any clauses about children, it's just that the magics binding Percy to the contract were enough for his bloodline to be flavored slightly Infernal.

[@sarahanonymous3770]

@@tacitakoe5004 ohhh, that makes sense. I thought that maybe something had happened to Zarah and Cash and they had adopted their kid.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

​@@tacitakoe5004I totally forgot about that. I thought it was due to his deal with the demon who helped him make guns and Matt was just ignoring the devil and demon differences for the sake of a fun story.

[@parodycalfilms]

The Mercers (Omar included) have a special relationship with fireplaces.

[@jordanpeterson5140]

That was one of my favorite episodes of Everything is Carbon Monoxide.

[@NWolfsson]

Matt oscillating between German Expressionist and French Elitist is kinda giving me life :'^)

[@tyrant351]

can we just call it the Mercer Herzog?

[@camillagrandi4201]

@@tyrant351 VERY MUCH YES PLEASE

[@samuraiko]

And at home, Liam is facepalming and saying, "THAT IS NOT WHAT A ZEMNIAN ACCENT SOUNDS LIKE, MATT."

[@davidgomes4408]

Hard disagree. The defining feature of French elitist accent is the _urge-to slap-generated hand-twitch_ it provokes in the listener. Matt merely gave me a urge to hug. And a spontaneous cookie want.

[@gabegrether8647]

@@samuraiko That would actually be hilarious. However, I do think he pulled some good accent work when Caleb, Beau, Nott and Caduceus we're talking to the Gentleman's client in Shady Creek Run.

[@phoenixgamer1849]

I feel like Omar is just a fun easter egg to look out for the way he explores the set throughout the episode

[@queenannsrevenge100]

If you ever wanted to know what the ceiling of the studio looks like, Omar’s your guy. 😁

[@Abyrae]

I fondly remember the episode he fell asleep on Dani's feet and she didn't want to move and disturb him.

[@tamarakw7724]

I'd watch an episode of just Omar shenanigans

[@SpaceW-]

Oh my god Matt just standing there awkwardly waiting for everyone to stop talking so he can say which number he pulled hahaha so relatable

[@Moldy135]

Holy moly the editors did him dirty with lingering shots on him while others were finishing up the question

[@carlystuart1178]

we've all been there xD

[@joelgermany1236]

Mercer's autobiography will be called "How Did I Want To Do That".

[@GodKnowsWhatIsInHere]

"I Certainly Tried."

[@laureloneiros1500]

@@GodKnowsWhatIsInHere this holy shit 😂😂😂

[@joelgermany1236]

@@GodKnowsWhatIsInHere well played ser

[@davidparkes7741]

May I contribute.... "What The F WAS Up With That?"

[@Blue_Lunacy]

@@davidparkes7741 That maybe the name of Taliesin's biography.

[@caedodice]

Timestamps will be posted soon. Ep 8 Timestamps 0:34 - Rolling 1:00 - Matt is Tavern Keep 3:16 - Open Discussion: WTFIUWT 3:20 - VM! Percy Details 8:33 - Percy & Kiki fighting? 9:43 - Were they having an affair? 11:01 - GoPro down 13:42 - Coaster 14:23 - Whitestone 15:45 - Gwendolyn 17:05 - Darkstone 17:40 - Matilda Bradbury 19:10 - Laudna living forever? 19:58 - MARISHA’S characters never age 22:23 - Creepy Whitestone 23:10 - Leaving the table 23:20 - Weird coincidence with C2 25:00 - How to revive FCG 25:34 - Fighting Delilah 26:45 - Delilah may still be alive, only Matt knows 28:44 - Pate 30:34 - One man Show 33:58 - Tower of Inquiry 35:18 - How did you come up with your character’s name? 36:00 - Matilda 38:06 - Fire 38:51 - Fresh Cut Grass 39:26 - Ashton 40:20 - Ash on Omar 40:54 - Did you all have 1:1s/2:1s with Matt before the game started like you did with Campaign 2? If so how did they go? 42:52 - Sam pulls a block 43:33 - What’s your favorite one on one roleplay moment with your character so far this campaign? 48:43 - The Deep Dive 49:11 - Matt, how did the skill check system work for Laudna’s mind? We’re the successes/failures weighed differently depending on the moment? 51:20 - Whitestone Andy 52:12 - Tal, What was it like to argue with Percy as Ashton? Is there anything else you wish you could have said to him or that you expected Percy to say to Ashton? 53:43 - Sam, Scanlan didn’t show up in Whitestone. What do you imagine his reaction to Laudna would have been and where do you think he is right now? 56:14 - Marisha, did you give Matt any stipulations for Laudna’s resurrection ritual? Was there anything that the players could have done that resulted in a more or less favorable outcome for Laudna’s soul? 57:20 - Matt, what inspired Lord Eshteross to bequeath the Skyship to Bells Hells? Did he believe they would have more use for it than the textile company? 58:50 - Tal, how does Ashton feel about the Hishari popping back up? Is this a curiosity that has long been undated or has he pushed away this vague memory of their parents? 59:05 - Aasimar Ashton? 1:00:55 - Avoiding touch 1:02:06 - Sam, FCG has a soul! How does this make them feel especially in regards to their perspective about life? 1:03:54 - Marisha, how does Laudna feel about her friends having fought Delilah for her? Does Laudna believe Delilah is gone for good and if so how does she feel about that? 1:06:17 - Taliesin pulls a block 1:07:55 - What moment from the campaign has had the greatest impact on your character so far? 1:10:15 - Matt pulls 1:11:00 - Choose any two characters you’ve played and imagine they’re stuck in an elevator together. How would that interaction play out? 1:14:35 - Essek & Gilmore 1:14:51 - Sam pulls from the Tower 1:15:21 - What is one of the most memorable Nat 20’s you’ve rolled this campaign and do you “have a picture of that sh**” 1:16:58 - Special Nat 20 feature for FCG 1:17:46 - Break Time 1:24:30 - Break Ends 1:26:20 - Game 1 Round 1 1:29:05 - Questions all at once 1:30:16 - Round 2 1:32:30 - Tal was the Wicked Wombat 1:33:00 - Sam, what has it been like for FCG to experience someone else’s trauma via Ashton and Laudna? 1:34:04 - Game 2 Round 1 1:36:49 - Matt gets voted out 1:37:13 - Game 2 Round 2/ Matt answers about Shadow entities 1:38:54 - Matt was the wombat 1:39:46 - Sam, what was it like for FCG to gain the attention of the Changebringer? 1:42:13 - Game 3 Round 1 1:44:06 - Tal gets voted out 1:45:04 - Marisha, how does Pact of the Chain impact Laudna and what is it like for her to see her oldest friend come to life? 1:45:27 - Game 3 Round 2 1:45:30 - Tal, what was it like to have Imogen and FCG in Ashton’s head? Did you know that their mind could trap the two within? How much was Ashton aware of the literal infinity in their mind? 1:47:50 - No one gets voted out 1:48:08 - Sam, what was the thought process behind FCG using Compulsion in Laudna’s resurrection ritual? 1:49:46 - Game 3 Round 3/ Tal, What was it like to see Whitestone and how it’s grown? 1:51:19 - Marisha wins! 1:52:33 - Matt cleans up 1:53:05 - Oh Sam 1:53:28 - Sam & Marisha 1:53:43 - Always Watching

[@sinbycosvi9]

Thank you so much!

[@devoncelis9613]

Thank you.

[@samuraiko]

Thank you for this!

[@AWindy94]

Thank you kind shining knight ✨

[@sturmklinge9642]

Thank you! Very appreciated

[@leotow4386]

Did anyone else find the casual Matt/Marisha hand holding so wholesome and adorable? Love these guys. 🥰

[@MemphiStig]

They really stay on script. lol

[@mikemiller8430]

Did Sam throw a shot at Marisha being pregnant. Or did I take that comment to literal.

[@iiSeaCoooooooow]

@@mikemiller8430 was scanning the comments for this. She is either for the first time in many years of being on camera, gaining some weight, or she is pregnant. Leaning towards baby.

[@Annarki2000]

@@iiSeaCoooooooow I also came to comments to see if it was just me or others had noticed what appears to be a baby bump pn Marisha. It seems I am not alone in thinking that she is indeed pregnant.

[@ashleylaricci2023]

@@iiSeaCoooooooow come on guys, it’s weird to speculate on these things. And to point out any weight gain, not cool.

[@TheDarkstormy]

It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you, then it's sensible precautions.

[@sethkeown5965]

ODB

[@noelbedard8252]

as someone with chronic pain I got really excited when Tal revealed that Ashton was in constant pain. the whole "there is strength, but there is pain/there is pain, but there is strength" was such a fun moment

[@Drekromancer]

Same. That line has been living in my head rent-free since he dropped it. I feel so seen.

[@rmoenmjea]

Honestly I need an Ashton-themed shirt, referencing the chronic pain shirt. Not as obvious as printing "Everything hurts" on it. But just a little homage. So when you see a fellow hurting critter on the street you just...know

[@noelbedard8252]

@@rmoenmjea oh my gods a long sleeve shirt that just has the golden cracks on it where Ash has them would be amazing. simplistic design, subtle reference, and also pretty

[@rmoenmjea]

Yes. To me those golden Cracks feel like that ancient chinese practice where when something breaks they repair the cracks with gold and it adds to the piece. Like, a simplystic long sleeve (sorry Marisha) with a CR logo and golden cracks all over it??? Its not a want, its a need😭

[@berniceporter8839]

@@rmoenmjea the art of kintsugi 😁

[@TartarusHimself]

I love that Matt remembers it as the “fix him” moment

[@TheUnamazingRando]

I mean, is there a better mnemonic?

[@TartarusHimself]

@@TheUnamazingRando it was more the fact that the same moments that stick out to the fans are the ones that stick out to the cast, unlike other video mediums where the creators and consumers have very different opinions of the content in question

[@chrisparker6517]

@@TheUnamazingRando "the pudding incident"

[@myriadd6272]

Which moment is that? I'm trying to remember and blanking aaah

[@Ajehy]

Who could forget?

[@jackrichardson3572]

This is the content I adore. Creepy stories of Arsenic silk flowers, while Omar the God of Chaos climbs into the fake fire covered in soot

[@futurecaredesign]

About Keyleth having to leave again quickly after having brought them to Whitestone: Having teleportation magic must be like having a van. If you own a van, all of a sudden every distant friend, family member and their dog knows to call on you if they need to move a couch.

[@lordofillusions]

😄

[@musclecat1005]

Essek during the middle of Campaign 2:

[@lordofillusions]

@@musclecat1005 They abused Essek so hard. No really, like 15 yr old teens who could almost drive a vehicle, but weren't allowed to. They found the one friend with a car and created a co-dependent relationship with as much, much older man who desperately wanted connection and hung around with teens. Grrr!

[@musclecat1005]

​@@lordofillusionsthey stopped relying on him after Caleb learned teleportation magic

[@Crystal-dc3oy]

I bought a big car because I wanted to be that person, and within a year I was keeping my camping gear in it full time so I didn't have to be that person.

[@underthependulum3484]

Marisha's victory lap at the end was full of "6 year old at a sleepover" energy and it was adorable

[@stardust4609]

I just realized that Matilda is Laudna’s literal and metaphorical deadname

[@evilemuempire9550]

Or is Laudna Matilda’s deadname?

[@nekoStrangerJunior]

I never realised how much I missed Nott the Brave until Sam talked in her voice again. I'm so happy we got the Mighty Nein 2 parter coming up!

[@Mysterious_Chaos_Wolf]

Something about Sam softly caressing everyone’s hands was hilarious to me.

[@brentage5000]

God, that tower....that thing is definitely coming down with the next pull, and I have no idea how the hell Sam was so reckless and lucky with it every time.

[@NWolfsson]

Tower: *leans 90°* Sam: Don't worry Imma replace it! _And he did._

[@grey8288]

Sam has the luck feat irl

[@andrewdowns3673]

He was harnessing the dark eldritch powers of Talison.

[@samuraiko]

He did it 100% knowing that Liam was going to have to deal with it on the next episode -- probably wanting payback for Liam scaring 10 years off his life with those claw things.

[@brentage5000]

@@samuraiko oooooo, but the thing there is we already know Liam deliberately chooses Chaos for the tower (dude literally punched the first one down), so is this vengeance or a prize?

[@Danne1886]

I totally got Percy's reaction. This creepy undead looking corpse is a vessel for the necromancer that murdered his childhood family. And now someone wants to do a resurrection ritual on it. In the middle of that same home, where his wife and kids now live. Of course he is going to be like fuck no.

[@mkang8782]

Sam: What if you were a clown? Matt: (no hesitation) Still Form of Dread.

[@MrTrilbe]

The paint was called "Scheele's Green", not only was it in paint and dyes, it was used in sweets (candies) and in candles, you can imagine the problems this coursed.

[@afckingegg7585]

Fun fact: it's actually pronounced like Sheila's, not shell's

[@thezaftigwendy]

And it was in FLOCKED wallpaper, which would rub off when touched, so people would INHALE it. AND it was used to dye fabric, and was able to be absorbed through the skin when it got damp - like with perspiration. It was popular in ball gowns for dancing in.

[@Mysterious_Chaos_Wolf]

I’m just gonna say it, Matt’s face of pure joy while petting Omar is awesome.

[@DredgenStorm]

As a man who had a Corgi during the hardest years of his life, petting a Corgi gives you unfiltered, unadulterated, unbelievable joy unlike anything you've ever experienced. Corgis are little balls of fluff, love, and joy. I miss you every single day, my puppy Claire 🥲

[@Mysterious_Chaos_Wolf]

@@DredgenStorm I’m so sorry for your loss.

[@DredgenStorm]

@@Mysterious_Chaos_Wolf thank you, friend

[@johnathonelliott530]

I appreciate the answer to the cast not playing their characters from Campaign One. I admit I was one of those people that wondered why the cast couldn't play their original characters. I still think it would have been cool and would have brought a lot of fun nostalgia, especially for everyone who started following critical role with campaign one. At the same time, I respect Matt playing the campaign one characters as a way of not bringing confusion to the viewers, especially at the chance that a lot of people started with campaign 2. In the end, you gotta do what's best for your table and based on the response from Matt and the cast, that's what they did.

[@Grangelzz]

yea i think the want for them to play is our nostalgia talking but if you look at it objectivly its weird cause it would be hard for them since they would need to switch between playing 2 different characters and couldnt really get into there own characters mindset properly. And if Marisha played keyleth it wouldnt have been as hype for her to return to the table for that short moment where they talked to her and then when she was ressurected

[@davidparkes7741]

As someone who became a Critter because of starting with Campaign 2 (& who is, thus far anyway not that far in to catching up with 1) I personally wouldn't have any confusion over the cast effectively having conversations with themselves by playing 2 different characters. In saying that I do understand why Matt is playing them & not the cast. Oh & I recognize that this is just my opinion & others might differ.

[@gaininsight3897]

Also, it would be spoilery. Their C3 characters wouldn't have genuine reactions already knowing the plot through their C1 characters' preset responses. They wouldn't be playing D&D, they'd be performing a play.

[@evilemuempire9550]

Honestly the idea of them playing their old characters never really crossed my mind, they’re NPCs now and shouldn’t really be played for all the same reasons normal NPCs shouldn’t be played. Honestly we’d probably have never gotten the awesome moment of Talesin arguing with “himself”, or at least not really.

[@johnviney3482]

I’m here for Matt gaslighting Travis about behind the screen intel 😂😂😂

[@MsTwissy]

I like that there’s a character with chronic pain in the story. I’ve always wanted to see that explored but I never have that in my characters because usually I try to escape from my own chronic pain with fibromyalgia when I’m making up characters to play

[@isaiahwelch8066]

My mom has fibro. I know what people with fibro go through, because I see the pain with my mom. It hurts me, because I want to help my mom, and I can't.

[@jaredjarvis5264]

Turns out, Shithead was Professor Thaddeus all along.

[@michaelbryant3640]

... Who's been shitting on FCG? It was Thaddeus all along!

[@theonionqueen3519]

I think FCG’s southern accent and Imogen’s southern accent are VERY different. Imogen sounds something closer to Texas, while FCG sounds like he’s from Kentucky, or somewhere close. Edit: I was unclear about where I thought FCG was from. That caused some confusion.

[@grey8288]

Some people: yeah I know THE American accent Americans: there's at least 3 different accents in California alone

[@wade8342]

I would say Imogen is more Savannah, but yes.

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

Laura is from Texas, so she is definitely channeling that in Imogen.

[@LunaKing]

@@wade8342 that's a solid distinction, the Texas drawl I feel is a little heavier and twangier, and Imogen's got a little softness to it

[@jessw346]

Agreed, there is a distinction between a twang and a drawl.

[@cryssiLOVE]

Marisha: Great character study on how people give advice to... uhm... fix when your friend is mad at you over a broken rock. Taliesin: She had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

[@MrYoyojuan]

Classic Keyleth moment

[@DM_BryanMayo]

"it's easier to take care of others and not take care of yourself" Sam coming for my throat

[@Xpresspommes]

In all those talks and 4-sided dive episodes, I never realized until how much I need that dark humor combo Sam and Tal bring on to the table!

[@MrDeathstar117]

1:01:03 is the moment Ashton became my favorite character. I thank you, Taliesin Jaffe for bringing them to life.

[@Abyrae]

So... How long do you guys think Liam will be able to escape the fate of being Tavern Keeper? Place your bets.

[@samuraiko]

Calling it now, he's doomed in the next episode.

[@seandonnellan5980]

I think a retired Orym would be a fantastic tavern keeper. Go ahead, start a ruckus in his tavern

[@sheylarochelle7072]

@@samuraiko I have to agree. He's cursed to be the next tavern keeper.

[@fantasyfanperson]

@@seandonnellan5980 Some goons come into town to cause some mischief, think they can get away with it in the tavern because the tavernkeep is just a lil guy. Then BAM the halfling cannonball has already flown in and kneecapped you before you could throw more than one punch

[@spacecowboyeddie6803]

Sam doing Nott's voice again made me so happy

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

I'm not certain which corner of his mind Matt pulled that Franco-German neo-expressionism exestial noir bit at the beginning, but it totally caught me by surprise and made me laugh more than I thought I would going into the first minute of a Four Sided Dive video

[@hedgehogmorph7248]

I always associated the name Laudna with laudanum: which is a old-timey calming and analgetic drug containg about 10% of opium dissolved in alcohol (which means it's obviously reeally destructive if used often) Also it has many varying uses in fiction, but most memorable for me is how laudanum represented in the game "Amnesia: The Dark Descent" -- in gameplay it's a healing potions, but it probably did some brain damage to main character on the path to titular affliction of the amnesia

[@MrTrilbe]

Surprisingly it's still in use, though only really for two things

[@princessblazena]

Marisha said in a previous 4 Sided Dive that she made up the name based on Laudnum, so you're correct with that association 😊

[@davidgomes4408]

@@MrTrilbe 2 uses: getting high and murder?

[@hedgehogmorph7248]

@@princessblazena heyy, good looking out. I might've missed or didn't get to it yet. And by the way Marisha puts it like there's something more specific that hasn't been revealed about this name choice. Like some exact story - fictional or true

[@hedgehogmorph7248]

@@davidgomes4408 one of modern uses is kinda disturbing but helpful, and the other is a bit sus (because opium is probably not the best way to counter a case of diarrhea). In the situation when during pregnancy a woman was exposed to opiates, a newborn would experience withdrawal symptoms - then the diluted laudanum drops come in, giving a baby substinance of about 1/125000 gram of morphine per 3 hours until the simptoms are clear Spooky

[@connerpaul9401]

Marisha finds a way to create near immortal characters. Keylith ages very slowly, Beau doesn't need food or water to live and Laudna will probably never age

[@seannemo8076]

Maybe next campaign she’ll play an Oath of the Ancients Paladin…

[@Abyrae]

I cannot help but picture future Beau as one of the Sheikah monks from The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

[@davidgomes4408]

Ironically, I'm pretty sure the endgame of Laudna is to become human again. So, in a way, her "ride into the sunset" scenario is to get her license to die back. Hope that helps.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

Now I'm just imagine her next campaign playing an Arakocra (maximum age is around 30) fighter out of spite

[@seannemo8076]

@@hfar_in_the_sky That's about as likely as Sam playing a tall character...

[@LunaKing]

Bless these nerds for encouraging sultry fanfic, truly using their power for such evil and such good 😂

[@samuraiko]

Now I'm REALLY curious... if Liam is Art Dad, which of the cast is the Fanfic Fanatic? Like, the one who just pores over all sorts of crack fic and then shows up at meetings or Zoom calls or right before the session and goes, "You would not BELIEVE the fic I just read, holy f***balls it was INSANE!"

[@LunaKing]

@@samuraiko I remember Brian Foster threatened to read and/or recommended some really spicy fanfics, so I wonder if he's the official reader to spare the rest of the cast lol. Although I'm sure Dani reads her ships at least!

[@jondespirito4666]

Sam embodied every burnt-out social worker with FCG finding out that they have a soul, and being troubled by it.

[@ghomerhust]

omg the wombat game is absolute chaos. and so is the multiple answering questions. i am HERE for it

[@jackakimbo5718]

I can't believe they got Werner Herzog to do the opening

[@mkang8782]

You mean Dieter from "Shprockets".

[@Dudeman9339]

I think the idea of resurrecting FCG by "popping the clutch" is perfect.

[@jackakimbo5718]

I think we all know one thing that Beau is eating even though she doesn't need it to survive 👀

[@toddalexander5015]

Angel food cake?

[@malrok5452]

Pocket bacon?

[@princessblazena]

@@toddalexander5015 you win 👏🥳😂

[@davidparkes7741]

Who says it's not the only food she does NEED to survive? Lmao.

[@xtcfucker]

Let‘s gooooooo

[@delaneyklutes]

I love the Nott and Taryon match up role play scene - literally THE BEST !!

[@zachnorris4851]

Ooooh, theory: it’s a Crazy Jane (from Doom Patrol if you don’t know) situation where Laudna is an alternate personality that manifested to protect the original personality of Matilda in her time of isolation.

[@rhokesh4391]

Laudna/Matilda is a system- headcanon accepted

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

Laudna didn't have the specific childhood trauma to cause that. (Dissociative Identity Disorder is a real thing in real life, and Crazy Jane got it right that it results from persistent, repeated traumas in your childhood, like constant abuse of any kind. Mathilda was bullied a lot, but her parents seemed a decent enough support system to help her in her childhood. Crazy Jane specifically has D.I.D. and I highly doubt that Laudna/Mathilda has that)

[@rosiecooper8030]

@@Hey-Its-Dingo I mean, being alive during a blood-filled insurrection, watching your hometown crumble into a dark age of undeath and then being killed would probably do it

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

@@rosiecooper8030 From the evidence we have, Laudna was too old when the Briarwoods took over for it to have that effect on her. Laudna was around the same age as Vox Machina when her family went to the banquet, so she was close to the same age as Percy when they took over, and according to studies, and the accounts of every DID system that has been interviewed, the cutoff age for DID development is 10 at the very latest. Sorry, I take these topics very seriously, and Laudna just doesn't fit at all.

[@gorillaenjoyer871]

@@Hey-Its-Dingo Laudna was around 16 to 18, but it still doesnt change the fact that its unlikely

[@itschrisperry]

The production of this show makes me die with happiness. I love you all so much.

[@LunaKing]

Yes, it's so good!! Especially the post stuff they do, it's so funny and good!

[@Notbatman374]

"Everything hurts. Beating the living hell out of Everything makes it better." Ashton is a warhammer 40k world eater confirmed.

[@Miniar-is]

The "your authority or assurance" thing was so 100% perfect Percy.

[@chrism7395]

The fact that Taliesin knows about Spaced gives me so much joy 37:44 I've been told that when my great, great aunt was a young she worked at an Arsenic Calciner; they would heat Tin ore to drive off the Arsenic and Sulphur. The smoke would leave deposits along horizontal chimneys and her job was to crawl inside after they'd cooled to scrape off the refined Arsenic and Sulphur. Their personal protection consisted of cotton wool nose plugs, soaked handkerchiefs and clay smeared on any exposed skin! There are still spoil heaps and old mine workings nearby that are so contaminated that almost nothing grows on them.

[@AksentNethariaFilm]

the fact that we got a PolyMachina conversation about a Vex-Percy-Keyleth throuple 10 minutes into the episode brings me great joy 9:39 is where the convo starts

[@Kris-wo4pj]

And of course Sam was the one who put that out there.

[@LunaKing]

Ngl, I'm always here for PolyMachina or PolyNein!

[@danjohnson3569]

Yesssssssss we have been waiting :0 we love y’all so much. Thanks for your time!

[@samhogo6976]

Ep 8 Timestamps 0:34 - Rolling 1:00 - Matt is Tavern Keep 3:16 - Open Discussion: WTFIUWT 3:20 - VM! Percy Details 8:33 - Percy & Kiki fighting? 9:43 - Were they having an affair? 11:01 - GoPro down 13:42 - Coaster 14:23 - Whitestone 15:45 - Gwendolyn 17:05 - Darkstone 17:40 - Matilda Bradbury 19:10 - Laudna living forever? 19:58 - MARISHA’S characters never age 22:23 - Creepy Whitestone 23:10 - Leaving the table 23:20 - Weird coincidence with C2 25:00 - How to revive FCG 25:34 - Fighting Delilah 26:45 - Delilah may still be alive, only Matt knows 28:44 - Pate 30:34 - One man Show 33:58 - Tower of Inquiry 35:18 - How did you come up with your character’s name? 36:00 - Matilda 38:06 - Fire 38:51 - Fresh Cut Grass 39:26 - Ashton 40:20 - Ash on Omar 40:54 - Did you all have 1:1s/2:1s with Matt before the game started like you did with Campaign 2? If so how did they go? 42:52 - Sam pulls a block 43:33 - What’s your favorite one on one roleplay moment with your character so far this campaign? 48:43 - The Deep Dive 49:11 - Matt, how did the skill check system work for Laudna’s mind? We’re the successes/failures weighed differently depending on the moment? 51:20 - Whitestone Andy 52:12 - Tal, What was it like to argue with Percy as Ashton? Is there anything else you wish you could have said to him or that you expected Percy to say to Ashton? 53:43 - Sam, Scanlan didn’t show up in Whitestone. What do you imagine his reaction to Laudna would have been and where do you think he is right now? 56:14 - Marisha, did you give Matt any stipulations for Laudna’s resurrection ritual? Was there anything that the players could have done that resulted in a more or less favorable outcome for Laudna’s soul? 57:20 - Matt, what inspired Lord Eshteross to bequeath the Skyship to Bells Hells? Did he believe they would have more use for it than the textile company? 58:50 - Tal, how does Ashton feel about the Hishari popping back up? Is this a curiosity that has long been undated or has he pushed away this vague memory of their parents? 59:05 - Aasimar Ashton? 1:00:55 - Avoiding touch 1:02:06 - Sam, FCG has a soul! How does this make them feel especially in regards to their perspective about life? 1:03:54 - Marisha, how does Laudna feel about her friends having fought Delilah for her? Does Laudna believe Delilah is gone for good and if so how does she feel about that? 1:06:17 - Taliesin pulls a block 1:07:55 - What moment from the campaign has had the greatest impact on your character so far? 1:10:15 - Matt pulls 1:11:00 - Choose any two characters you’ve played and imagine they’re stuck in an elevator together. How would that interaction play out? 1:14:35 - Essek & Gilmore 1:14:51 - Sam pulls from the Tower 1:15:21 - What is one of the most memorable Nat 20’s you’ve rolled this campaign and do you “have a picture of that sh**” 1:16:58 - Special Nat 20 feature for FCG 1:17:46 - Break Time 1:24:30 - Break Ends 1:26:20 - Game 1 Round 1 1:29:05 - Questions all at once 1:30:16 - Round 2 1:32:30 - Tal was the Wicked Wombat 1:33:00 - Sam, what has it been like for FCG to experience someone else’s trauma via Ashton and Laudna? 1:34:04 - Game 2 Round 1 1:36:49 - Matt gets voted out 1:37:13 - Game 2 Round 2/ Matt answers about Shadow entities 1:38:54 - Matt was the wombat 1:39:46 - Sam, what was it like for FCG to gain the attention of the Changebringer? 1:42:13 - Game 3 Round 1 1:44:06 - Tal gets voted out 1:45:04 - Marisha, how does Pact of the Chain impact Laudna and what is it like for her to see her oldest friend come to life? 1:45:27 - Game 3 Round 2 1:45:30 - Tal, what was it like to have Imogen and FCG in Ashton’s head? Did you know that their mind could trap the two within? How much was Ashton aware of the literal infinity in their mind? 1:47:50 - No one gets voted out 1:48:08 - Sam, what was the thought process behind FCG using Compulsion in Laudna’s resurrection ritual? 1:49:46 - Game 3 Round 3/ Tal, What was it like to see Whitestone and how it’s grown? 1:51:19 - Marisha wins! 1:52:33 - Matt cleans up 1:53:05 - Oh Sam 1:53:28 - Sam & Marisha 1:53:43 - Always Watching

[@135mikerules23]

Anyone notice a trend with Sam’s characters is that they all collectively seem to have this pathological need to help people or at the very least put others problems before addressing their own? With Scanlan it was with Vox Machina until he had his breakdown and did some soul searching. Taryon wanted to prove to his father how capable he was, before realizing that perhaps that’s not something he needs to prove to his father but rather himself through VM. Nott/Veth was always bringing up support for whatever Caleb/Bren needed. Then there’s FCG whose whole purpose in life was to help others not worrying about himself because he felt everyone else seemed to have that spark of life, he thought he lacked but now knows he shares with his friends.

[@maeve615]

I noticed the trend as well. Combined with his out of character antics, I wonder if Sam possibly had something happen to him in his younger years & there was no one there to help him when he needed it.

[@Wertbag99]

Omar didn't want the snuggles, he was after the cookie!

[@JacopoSkydweller]

100%. "What the f&ck is up with this, I don't want to be picked up"

[@-MM_01]

Taliesin’s celebration “Haha it was a candy wrapper” is so relatable for having pets 😂

[@Satelitko]

ngl, "How do you want to live this?" is a fantastic title for an autobiography.

[@HawthornMusic]

Matt Mercer is wearing a Heilung tee-shirt and I am so happy! 🖤

[@benhemsworth8555]

based

[@cook279]

Yoo, wouldn’t have connected the dots without your comment. Good looking out. Cultured recognizes cultured

[@PalleRasmussen]

They just toured the US IIRC.

[@matthewevans3543]

What's Heilung?

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

@@matthewevans3543 a really neat band with an aesthetic that’s likely to freak out your average evangelical Protestant.

[@fromadhdtodndtomtg]

I am spending this episode watching Omar and the fire place... "OOOO - flashy sticks!"

[@FroJSimpson]

I was blown away by that 4-man theatrical production of “Popeye” the gang did during Hand-to-Hand Wombat!

[@whitestoneandy797]

I would definitely read the autobiography "How I Do This" by Matthew Mercer

[@davidcurry5240]

Somehow I Manage To Do This

[@whitestoneandy797]

@@davidcurry5240 lmaoo strong the Office Michael vibes 👏👏

[@redhood9962]

So nobody is gonna mention Matt's perfect Werner Herzog impression, really?

[@NoktiousGames]

Matt, thank you so much for that intro. It was exquisite.

[@rhokesh4391]

So Keyleth supplies Percy? D'you think they have a set of matching bonsais for that? After all, you only need a big tree if you're going to send *people* through it... ;)

[@Heritage367]

Keyleth's weed would be the stuff of legends

[@samuraiko]

@@Heritage367 Wait until Keyleth meets Caduceus...

[@Drekromancer]

@@Heritage367 Amazing take. That gets me thinking about all the possibilities, too. Just imagine Keyleth taking a fat rip off an awakened bong, turning into an eagle, and cruising over the mountains at sunset. It'd be absolutely sublime.

[@rmoenmjea]

You really think they wouldn't send it through the sun tree and like magic there's always a tiny bit missing on the other side??

[@Heritage367]

@@Drekromancer this is one of the many reasons I love druids ❤ 🦅

[@stumbling_]

The cut here at 1:26… I’ve watched it like 10 times now and I keep bursting out laughing every time. Edit: Marisha talking about the flower shops reminds me of the same thing happening with young girls who would paint this glow in the dark pain on watches (it glowed because it contained radium). So to get the fine detail these girls would put the brush in their mouth to give it a fine point (since radium shared properties with calcium it would get inside of bones) and this lead to several people actually losing their jaws completely. Which of course the companies were able to just completely erase long enough to not be charged for it.

[@ZebedeeXVI]

This is a minor conflation of 2 very similar situations: Radium based paint was indeed used in the way you describe but the effects were that of radiation poisoning. The people losing bone structure and frequently their entire jaw were coating match heads in phosphorus, the condition was known as "phossy jaw"

[@sanalone9492]

radium girls! read that book a few years ago and the descriptions of how their bodies literally started falling apart have haunted me since then

[@afckingegg7585]

@@ZebedeeXVI this isn't quite right--the radium girls also experienced jaw degradation because they licked their paint brushes to get a finer point. This fact is actually important, since it's one of the reasons the companies were able to allege the girls actually had syphilis. They had jaw necrosis, rotting teeth, and at least one woman's jaw did fall off before she died. The condition was know as "radium jaw".

[@jacobbecicka2291]

I loved Marisha’s run after she won the game. Just exuding Laudna.

[@allieofchaos]

Marisha and Matt just casually holding hands is so cute. It's just so wholesome. The whole group is so wholesome.

[@RandomImaginings]

"Why Are You Like This"? The hit game competing against 'What The Fuck is Up with That"?!

[@chichiriz]

always taliesen and marisha teaming up for chaos team up lol too conquer matts board game skills lol and sam is just their 😂

[@scottwagner2566]

I'm living for Matt's "Slightly sassy, slightly nihilistic german" character.

[@jaciejcjay]

Dani: Taliesin no Me (and probably Sam): Taliesin YES

[@ArtistAtPlay]

Sam: “Now, my character, when we someone else gets a natural 20, I get a little bonus” I confess, that’s not what I thought the last syllable was gonna be. Dirty brain.

[@kaylaboland637]

The question asking and answering at the same time is my FAVOURITE part of this episode omg

[@shriek_a_boo]

what I think the captions were supposed to say at 48:30 : "... ruined by Sam and" what the captions actually said: "... ruined by salmon"

[@DarkLawYGO]

i think Taliesin could make a whole series on like Percy post VM campaign

[@elbruces]

If there are any novelizations about it, he's going to input like half the material.

@@elbruces That's still a solid 750 pages worth of stuff.

[@notanaardvark2093]

I love that Matt is wearing a Heilung shirt - their music is awesome and unusual, and I've definitely used it while DMing my own games. It made a perfect backing track for Yester Hill in Curse of Strahd.

[@Valfyre]

That last frame with Matt peaking out of the picture frame, really caught me off guard. Nearly spit out my coffee laughing. Love this damn show, keep up the great work!

[@beauyashter]

i'm very proud of myself because for the first time there are no unwatched videos on the channel because i'm all caught up on campaign 3

[@BlazeDupree1525]

It is a strange feeling being caught up on critical role

[@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi]

welcome :)

[@LunaKing]

Achievement unlocked!!

[@castor9683]

Good job. Now you can share our agony of having to wait an entire week for a new episode :)

[@Xiatter]

You are awesome! And I think you should be proud. I have fewer than 15 episodes left of Campaign 1 and I'll be caught up on all three campaigns.... But I still have all the one-shots and side content. 😅

[@aqacefan]

29:37 Nice to see the nod to 1E, where a lucky roll on Find Familiar could get the caster a Brownie, Pseudo-Dragon, Imp, or Quasit, depending on which Law/Chaos, Good/Evil caster alignment they had.

[@poe_slaw]

What they are describing sounds like Investment of the Chain Master from Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything so this in 5e as well

[@grey8288]

@@poe_slaw It'd be closer to getting them as non-find-familiar familiars in fifth edition. 5es familiar system is VERY different than previous editions, the only similarity a chainlocks familiar has is that they can use the expanded list for stat blocks for what shape and abilities the familiar has. It's still not a psuedodragon in 5e, just psuedodragon shaped, you dont need to roll, and your alignment doesn't matter (all excluding dm ruling, ofc, just by RAW). It's closer to getting them as a familiar without the spell, forming a bargain or deal of some sort for it to serve you, since your intentions and actions still have to be close enough to its so it doesn't just leave you.

[@AlkanetEXE]

1:04:30 beginning of the cutest visuals of the entire episode

[@crystyn6319]

Sam does one-man-shows it seems when he does the sponsor ads at the beginning of episodes. They are often wonderful.

[@Caitydid561]

I love how both of the two most recent 4-Sided Dives have ended with something Mercer-based. Last month's, he destroyed L.A. as the trash robot, and now the "Mercer is always watching". XD

[@ArielannaDragonBlood]

I'm absolutely loving how Matt has a Heilung shirt. So cool!

[@lukekalbach399]

Best opening monologue yet!!!

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

For those who may have missed it: Matt recently did a great 1-hour interview on the channel "Alanah Pearce" titled "va101: Critical Role, Overwatch, Cyberpunk & Attack on Titan's MATTHEW MERCER! | Voice Acting 101". (not linking in case that runs afoul of automatic comment moderation)

[@Aetheria60]

Thanks for the heads up. :)

[@lapetitecuillereetlepaindo3005]

Sam's Travis impression : chef's kiss.

[@magoshighlands4074]

Keyleth, Arch-Druid, Voice Of The Tempest, Best Crunk Dealer This Side Of Wildemount

[@pjhuot1695]

Matt wearing a Heilung shirt warms my heart beyond measure.

[@xXSakuraTearsXx]

Sam hears _"not a good boy"_ & immediately wonders if Percy became a _'Wife Guy.'_

[@davidmaksl5185]

Just in case, spoiler C1&2: I think one part of why Sam is playing an automaton this campaign is so Matt can't kill his kids anymore. Also I love Matt and this crew. They are awesome.

[@mayaenglish5424]

Spoilers for C1 and C2 Unless he has robot kids from the Age of Arcanum and Matt has already killed them and we just don't know it yet. FCG could have had an entire family. Maybe we'll get to Aeor eventually or run into Devexian and unlock more memories...

[@corporealghoul]

That intro was godly.

[@wafflingmean4477]

2:45 Omar: "No, the uh- Matt the cookie. I was after the- can I have the cookie oh I'm in a portrait now."

[@kylebernard7755]

Thumbs UP for the Omar cameo :)

[@grey8288]

We all wanted to see the baby