Why Aren't There Any Vertical Music Levels in Super Mario Maker 2?

[@DannyBPlays]

So after 4YMM and many other examples, it's clear that vertical music levels are possible and this video is very wrong. However, even though it's possible it takes a lot more planning and testing and the level always requires a starting fall or scrolling to get the notes setup, so you couldn't ever have music start from checkpoint, it'd need the preparation scrolling to get everything working

[@neypaz8054]

It'd be cool if you made a video where you provided tips on how to make music levels like this, though. Just because the video is outdated and it IS possible to make music levels with vertical areas even if it's harder than with horizontal areas doesn't mean you should insist on discouraging us from giving it a try

[@yaidkbro]

Sometimes people make music + speedrun levels. Vertical speedrun levels are not that possible. You need smb2 mushrooms and even goombas.

[@colbydantone9658]

Yes 👍

[@ElijahRosh844]

Danny b do you made this

[@timohara7717]

It means there was far more effort, in fact I found a simple traditional level that had beach bowl galaxy music and the first part is vertical

[@valenceuwu7819]

Everyone: Vertical music levels are impossible.... Danny: Hold my note block.

[@pizza619]

I wish I knew how to make a good music level

[@bruhchannel1216]

they are cuz u can make them like normal level or like FALLING IN THE NIGHT LIGHTS

[@darkkirbygod]

I tried making one half an year ago. But it was too hard and i never finished it

[@cesarer92]

I watched this video and a couple of hours later... well, this is a vertical music level: 1SQ-VSY-37G

[@DannyBPlays]

very nice! I honestly didn't know any existed and this was done nicely

[@pizza619]

Wow

[@cringe5973]

Im actually trying to make one with the Annoying Dog song from Undertale, is a pretty easy song, but horizontal just makes it to hard

[@Leekodot15]

@@cringe5973 So, you're trying to make Dog Song. Yes that is the name of it, all you had to do was remove "annoying" and you had the song

[@Ryan50Ryan]

I tried that level and its hard. 0.32% clear rate.

[@adamletourneau1822]

Good to know..even if I don't make music levels

[@vriskaserketontheps5]

I just want to make mm2wood

[@pizza619]

I made one but it is not very good

[@Aubreyiz]

The uh uh hey adam

[@jazzhandsdownthetoilet5838]

Pretty much sums up this video

[@IdaeChop]

Good to know... Even if I don't own Mario Maker

[@JNSStudios]

You could probably make the SM64 Endless Stairs theme with the constant rising pitch.

[@darkkirbygod]

It never feels like it gets notes down but just everyone becomes higher.

[@gabriellaedwards9yearoldwi255]

It's called a shepherd's tone =>

[@JNSStudios]

@@gabriellaedwards9yearoldwi255 THATS the name. I swear I knew it, just couldn't put my finger on the name

[@-lijosu-]

Thats the sheperds tone, as someone has already said. You can't recreate it with Mario Maker, even with a lot of notes.

[@ZADARGG]

Shepard tone*

[@claudio-maker2943]

Me: so are vertical music levels impossible? Danny: well yes but actually no

[@pizza619]

Lol

[@giornogiovanna2008]

You'd guess but actually no

[@creepser1140]

*visible confusion*

[@kirbyinahat]

And it's actually surprisingly simple

[@ShiverBurnX]

@@kirbyinahat it is a just made a level of that 20 days ago

[@SussySupcon]

Well, at least music make you lose control is possible

[@DannyBPlays]

lmao!! this is very true, you should make a vertical level that has those notes and it would work perfectly

[@DannyBPlays]

I will have this pinned comment for anyone who posts an actual vertical music level! If you post a level id that isn't a vertical music level I'll delete it. So far here is the one that was posted, I'll post others if you comment and I verify them: 1SQ-VSY-37G 4LH-L8F-5JG 12P-G4X-XGG PTG-JL3-6KG (not really music, but a decent effort) DKV-FM6-N5G

[@bernardoabdounur521]

I will post a vertical music level from megalovania

[@1everysecond511]

Sorry, didn't realize I needed to reply here instead of just comment I went into detail in another comment, but tl;dr 0S6-VFJ-S7G is a maker with some incredible examples!

[@ReatExists]

wait this isnt pinned

[@user-pd6xq3of4s]

This level also amazing vertical music level. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJusXpuua9lpldE

[@DannyBPlays]

O, very nice. I added it to my pin

[@MannyGM]

There is someone who was able to create vertical Music Levels successfully. I forgot the name of the creator, but I seen the vertical music level in one of Juzcooks videos. The only vertical Music level I can think of I can think of right now, is the Bowser Fight music from Super Mario 64. If Nintendo added the editor mode on levels that we downloaded, we could probably see how the setups work. But anyways, great video!

[@DannyBPlays]

yeah someone commented here about a vertical music level and it's nicely done 1SQ-VSY-37G

[@aldguton]

The song is called "Hot Cross Buns" the lyrics go, hot cross buns, hot cross buns. One a penny, two a penny, hot cross buns

[@FireballBen]

Why does he only have 9K he should have at least 100K

[@Hubert69]

He underrated as fuck

[@DannyBPlays]

you're too nice

[@EPB-lo4yy]

Fax

[@pizza619]

Yup underated

[@Rhysspuffs]

Don’t worry I subscribed

[@Evanpianomaster]

Great video Danny! I love when you make music level videos. I'm an Music Creator w/18K Maker Points, so I absolutely love seeing our genre of levels get this kind of love! I'm friends with a "technical" creator who specializes in creating glitches and machines, but he also specializes in Music Track Levels too. He's working on some music levels that actually take advantage of the vertical system, so it's pretty interesting! :)

[@DannyBPlays]

thanks man, if you create any vertical music levels comment the ID and I'll add it to my pinned comment since most of them are really cool and underappreciated

[@J55_ZR]

This is extremely well edited by the way

[@DannyBPlays]

thanks I tried! It was tough to make it easy to understand

[@J55_ZR]

@@DannyBPlays You did good, you made someone (like me) who knows nothing about music in Mario Maker (and nothing about music in real life) actually able to follow and understand!

[@Maxi_Animates]

2:37 endless stairs blocks

[@autisticgaming2004]

I've always wondered this! Even when i was making my music courses I was wondering if my songs would be able to go into a vertical section but I just decided it might be to hard to make it work lol. Great and informative video Danny, keep it up 👍

[@DannyBPlays]

glad to help, I've been wanting to make this video for months

[@1everysecond511]

This maker: 0S6-VFJ-S7G Some examples of theirs: MJK-NPJ-2PF K5Y-7DQ-4KG J5W-071-L0H The creator Jimzan immediately comes to mind. While track-based music loop contraptions are very much a thing (although difficult to construct), this creator seems to take full advantage of long falls in vertical levels as a loading mechanism for longer and more complex music loops. They're truly something to behold.

[@DannyBPlays]

thanks for these, I'll check them out and add them to my pinned comment once I confirm they're vertical music

[@claudio-maker2943]

Com_poser: sees vertical feature on Mario maker 2 for the first time. Also Com_poser: wow this is worthless!

[@alansanchez9327]

Super Seigens eternal lullaby. **sticks tongue out at Danny**

[@peetah_gryffyn]

What about Super Seigen's Eternal Lullaby? THAT'S a vertical music level!

[@claudio-maker2943]

I gave him that level, it’s in the pinned comment

[@swiftz1455]

I learned more about music with this video then music class now that’s sad

[@UltraAryan10]

Its odd how vertical levels do not use the exact opposite loading of horizontal levels. I really just expected them to have both horizontal screens loaded then the three blocks above and below screen to be loaded. This would have been simpler tbh

[@DannyBPlays]

there are technical reasons why it can't use a rotated version of horizontal levels but I didn't want to make the video overly complicated

[@UltraAryan10]

@@DannyBPlays What would be those technical reasons, the amount of blocks loaded would be the exact same.

[@shyfolium]

5:27 I've never heard something so majestic in Mario Maker before....

[@WilliamTheLonelyRobot2]

Coconut Mall: Am I a joke to you?

[@greenheroes]

except... you can make something more complex with the player falling from high up in a vertical section, spawning every music blocks you need for the song in the right order. (through trial and error) then simply adjust the timing between each notes and you can play the music just right (the set up might look cluthered, but you won't see any of that when the music starts playing) There was a trick in early SMM2 that allowed you to put your instruments on top of a vertical section, since you could use global ground from up there, but Nintendo patched it when the 2.0.0 came out. To get the same result now, you have to make the notes get on screen in the reverse order that they play. When you stop falling, there is a huge delay before the music starts playing because the notes would have to fall all the way down after they got placed in the right order (explaining why the notes have to be set on screen that way)

[@smm_lewis]

like this? 3T5-KXG-0XG

[@TDTStarSpark]

I’ve played a vertical music level, the code is C9F-S8V-QWG

[@spaceqwertyy1184]

This dude deserves more subs

[@DannyBPlays]

you're too nice

[@masterincredible1427]

It’s quite amateur but this becomes a vertical music loop once you get through the pipe somehow. Although poorly done, the idea is awesome. And it demonstrates that vertical music loops can cram a lot more music notes that a horizontal loop. And it’s daft punk. 4MP-9W4-69G

[@DannyBPlays]

did you make the level? It does a great job of showing how a looping song can be done, but yuck the puzzle is annoying. I got through the pipe but didn't care for the rest of it. I would add it to my pin of vertical music levels but I agree that the non-music part of this level was poorly done

[@astralkitty_]

Vertical Level's are still great...

[@stockicide]

Short and to the point. Good video.

[@hank1302]

So, you want a verticle music level, I see you are versed in the art of trickery.

[@aniolelseer7199]

Geitge does vertical music levels, but they are loop tracks. And the set ups using global instruments on track.

[@readysetplaytime3203]

Hey, there is a vertical level where you do a survival room, but in the meantime, it plays bergentrucking and asgore while you survive, so it is technically a vertical music level!

[@luckyramirez8954]

The basic song people learn to make is the song we played in the recorder in the 2019 Spring Sing.

[@Tanth13]

Ren 69 made a perfect looped vertical music level: 12P-G4X-XGG

[@ActuallyMoist]

I can’t even make a basic tune sound nice in smm2 I suck at making music levels So thanks for teaching me a few of the basics!

[@alysdexia]

nice < niais < nescius := not-skilled, ocsýmòron

[@kian.l]

Jimzan makes really cool vertical looping music/puzzle levels. Heres one that he made: T8Q-HM7-3SG (the music part is near the end)

[@Billbobs678]

I'll check it out

[@AaronLoving]

You could make a short but complex music song if you make Mario move horizontally in the vertical area

[@LadyAmiJo]

Best video!

[@KaizoM]

I never wonder why but its a interesting video.

[@RyansChannel0203]

I once saw this Xevious level that played the music vertically.

[@darkkirbygod]

So one time i even tried building a vertical music level myself. (Long before this video) and i made just upgoing tracks you have a limited screen with scrolling and left are 3 tracks right are 3 but it was too much trying and so i not finished making it. But that would be the best way try it

[@darkkirbygod]

And i just wantedto build this back then that people see it is possible vertically (people would give more stars because it is a new way and an innovation) even if there are just 6 notes which just go at the height 3 5 7 9 11 13 and its possible to 28 i think (normal is 27)

[@claudio-maker2943]

The best vertical music level I’ve played is Go Seigen’s Eternal Lullaby, it’s kind of a tough level (it took me about 45 minutes to beat) but the level is awesome! Also probably one of my favorite dark levels as well

[@DannyBPlays]

post the level ID and I'll add it to my pinned comment!

[@claudio-maker2943]

4LH-L8F-5JG

[@DannyBPlays]

awesome I posted it to my pin

[@jacobkile5466]

That’s what I thought. Good to know I’m not wrong

[@crafto6881]

FerB Plays I know what were gonna do today

[@2Pyroz]

There are puzzle levels I've played that have a full song play. Most notable is a legend of Zelda themed level.

[@Emerald-Fluffie]

2:37 i suppose making a level like this would be so difficult to do it would make you lose control

[@FFKonoko]

Fixed ascent, with one note block per note, following you up... Would still be sub optimal for a music level but might be an interesting concept anyway

[@thenonexistinghero]

Before watching the video... couldn't it be done using tracks? Put some sort of time limit on it so that the player will die if he doesn't progress in time. Not saying it's easy, but you could create a basic tune that way for a vertical level.

[@REALrileyishere]

0:22 That’s Not A Asterisks That’s A Star

[@DannyBPlays]

lol k

[@denischen8196]

Divine Beast Vah Medoh is half puzzle, half vertical music level. There is a Link tag. Why is there no SMB2 tag for SMB2 Mushroom levels?

[@aloeveil]

I love you DannyB!

[@AmyTheMeower]

"Most of the notes didn't play because either the mushrooms or the music blocks were too far off-screen to spawn" Actually, items on track are always loaded, it just didn't play some because the mushrooms weren't loaded and therefore didn't bounce.

[@DannyBPlays]

loading off screen is useless if it's not moving and if it can't interact with anything

[@AmyTheMeower]

@@DannyBPlays I know, I was just pointing out the note blocks did load

[@Speed-TV]

Yeah i was thinking the same thing

[@oshawott5308]

I bet using the Lydian scale you could remake splatoon's last minute music and it'd sound alright.

[@田-r6k]

Does anybody know how to make a one-screen music level?

[@FooFooANIMATIONS]

you could make a bad recreation of the infinite staircase music from super mario 64

[@morthim]

i think this is a passive aggressive challenge for composer.

[@DannyBPlays]

I would LOVE to see him make a vertical music level. If anyone can do it, he can

[@Larree17]

*points vaguely at the back to CP1 in elar1n’s new troll level “[Troll] Tequila Sunset”*

[@aniolelseer7199]

Also, Geitge has done a vertical music level and is currently working on another. It can be done. =)

[@Superbrohouse]

1:34 School fire alarms be like

[@Billbobs678]

Imao so tru

[@luciananeves3374]

To Make A Vertical Music Level, Ir Needs A Vertical Sub Área And Put A Pipe Downards And Put Music Blocks And Put Any Enemy And Put A Cloud Block To Enemies Stand When The Sound Is Ready!

[@luciananeves3374]

And I Forgot, Can We See A Vertical-Horizontal Plus Vertical Music Level In 2:12

[@haijehiemstra2883]

U still have ur mc cape?

[@smm_lewis]

4:21 3T5-KXG-0XG

[@mintea.mp3]

Thinking of a vertical music level is a cursed thought

[@moobl00m]

You could make it by doing it in the same level but with tracks the one longer

[@tonicastaneda6984]

Thx for telling us!

[@DannyBPlays]

No problem!

[@JustJamesNotJerry]

Wow that pretty much defeats the purpose of those blocks in vertical levels.

[@takeyourdamnmeds]

spring

[@gamermike111]

Me: I WILL BUY THIS THEN SPEND HOURS TRYING TO MAKE ONE

[@T-Bone3063]

I`ve made a level that's vertical it's one of my first levels

[@adipy8912]

There have been many levels these days where there are vertical music.

[@ygames5248]

Cool video

[@Billbobs678]

Your the 100th comment

[@scotthoward8791]

does this count as a vertical music level? PTG JL3 6KG

[@DannyBPlays]

haha yep good enough for me! I'll add it to my pinned comment

[@Geoff69420]

And that, my Liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.

[@emmisaryofgilameir1946]

I could try something using the rail things

[@hihowareyou3547]

Don't underestimate people.

[@thunder3372]

Someone will create a vertical music level just because of this video.

[@bingobo2551]

Challenge accepted

[@astrouphel]

Okay so basically you can only make a song that can only get higher in a vertical music level. Good to know.

[@champbrostv1522]

I'll prove you wrong I promise

[@smoulder2908]

GoSeigen did it.

[@KrzysztofJaromir317]

Ok Then, ill try and make one but i really don't do this kind of stuff so it will take a while.

[@fyrepawz8655]

Somebody made a vertical music level

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

I'll bet you've encouraged some mad lads/lasses to make this kind of level just to spite you! ;) xD

[@LoyaltyToTCG]

Now we will make a vertical music level because it’s possible but extremely difficult 👍

[@DannyBPlays]

go for it!

[@nemesis_nrg4897]

Goseigen made one and it's also stupid hard

[@tuvalauvdal2829]

I have seen a vertical music level

[@ophi7016]

Didn’t Go Seigen make a vertical music level?

[@DannyBPlays]

he did, I think I posted it in my pinned comment, I don't remember

[@ophi7016]

Oh, I probably missed it

[@SIG7Pro]

Lemme try, I cannot upload it but I can do a YT video of me doing it

[@cheesytoad7023]

Now try Sound effects music I tried it, it's possible

[@aitorbarquero975]

Not true, I saw a couple of them lasts weeks

[@gingerpro9]

A Basic Never has always happened in a while so I’m gonna we All I was a Loop

[@odinfeidje-baug7467]

Watch Carl's newest video. It has some verticsal music levels.

[@shakingh4nd]

because it would be too many octaves.

[@ThatVillain-the-Gamer]

I am still warring for rejected updates 2 Oof

[@draconicproductionsinactiv5717]

At least, 1 level is vertical music level

[@petterlarsson7257]

But... there is...

[@Yamahearted]

The guy said why in first thirty seconds of video and only then got into details That is why I follow you

[@veggiet2009]

That's sad

[@jacobcoates7987]

Just do the ending of A day in the life. Solved.

[@sneakymatt1]

Their possible :D

[@DannyBPlays]

yea this video is super outdated and very wrong, but I'll keep it up anyway

[@sneakymatt1]

@@DannyBPlays yea i know lol

[@yeetusmann1796]

“...seen one of those. Why is that” MAYBE IT’S BECAUSE I’M TOO POOR TO GET SMM2!?

[@DannyBPlays]

hey now there's always youtube to watch levels