Why Avengers: Endgame's Biggest Plot Hole Actually Makes Sense

[@Chessie-TaylorsVersion]

Plot twist: Every Stan Lee cameo is Steve Rogers subtly checking up on his friends

[@theodoreplays1459]

Chessie Dowdeswell yes

[@coolnamepending7604]

STEVE ROGERS IS STAN LEE?!?! Cap, my respect for you has grown.

[@Isaac.cariani]

No Stan Lee's movie character is a watcher

[@uncleiroh4150]

Captain America is Stan Lee

[@casadeireneUSA]

My gosh, I totally disagree with the assumption that he went back in the 70's. The music and the car proves he went back to the 40's. And Peggy being a spy and all would had lived a full life with back from the future Rogers would know to hide that Roger was her husband. The fact that he kissed the niece no big deal to try to justify the insanity of him going back in the 70's vs the 40's.

[@kylekrummel1543]

Peggy: Steve, why did you invest all of our savings into companies called Apple and Google? Steve: 😏

[@SuperHeliboy]

Kyle Krummel and what the heck is bitcoin?

[@djleon5191]

@@SuperHeliboy a dead fad

[@evesoup2103]

This is the best comment I’ve ever seen. So underrated

[@haydengower7642]

Netflix too

[@dendiepie1547]

@@evesoup2103 actually i ve seen a meme about this

[@pyrowinger846]

Captain America: The Return of the Stones. Yeah sounds like a film.

[@kadragon3764]

YES PLEASE!

[@Cuzjudd]

Sounds like The Rolling Stones comeback tour

[@katmon7756]

but it might not be shown ‘til *2023* .. 😁🤓

[@CFRF13]

Captain America: Running the Gauntlet.

[@YT-Trenton]

If you think about it, returning the stones may not have been difficult. He could have used the space-stone to travel anywhere and return all the stones. He could have done it within a day.

[@jrjonesak]

Cap’s adventures while time traveling should be a complete movie.

[@baileyeverson2272]

Captain America - Return of the infinity stones

[@killjoycola]

theres a rumor that chris evens might come back in 5 or 10 years.. so there is a chance

[@steves8924]

Yeah, the chapter on the Soul Stone would be interesting...

[@johnnysalami27]

Bailey Everson that will be the end of phase 4

[@abigail8344]

YES!

[@williamrandolph1566]

I would ALSO love to see the full-length movie version of Cap returning the stones.

[@Trainer_Red.....]

Maybe deleted scene? Hopefully

[@Trainer_Red.....]

Or we may get a director's cut. I'd like that.

[@orsygodri1155]

I would be perfectly fine with marvel making an animated movie showing that. This way they don't need to pay big money to actors but still have the story fans would like to see.

[@rorschachsjournal2084]

@@orsygodri1155 big money for actors? They made BILLIONS and only pay a few million. Plus disney is a bottomless money pit. You cant even comprehend the amount of money they have. Its so much money that money is irrelevant to them. The truth is that everything has an agenda, and the people in charge don't want money like the average joe does. No, they want power.

[@orsygodri1155]

@@rorschachsjournal2084 Yeah, I mean compared to Disneys Billions the 20 million they pay actors seems measly, but compared to my salary of 1000/month the 20 million they pay the actors seems a lot. It's all a matter of perspective. It's only natural that an organization earns more money than 1 single individual.

[@mikymo456]

This explanation was more confusing than the movie.

[@robc4495]

Say you have a show you DVRd and are watching it after its recorded. You are watching that recorded show, then pause it at the commercial. The 30 seconds that commercial is set to run doesn't change even after you pause it. Basically, while watching a TV show, he paused the recording Ave went to do stuff for a few hours, then came back and finished the commercial before it got back to the rest of the show.

[@robc4495]

Also, when he sat back down to finish watching the show, he was sitting on the other side of the couch.

[@fifafutbeast]

Rob C if that’s the case then he’s controlling time rather than traveling through it.

[@robc4495]

@@fifafutbeast well the hulk did say that to them it would be seconds, but to cap it would be as long as he needed.

[@fifafutbeast]

Rob C true. I had originally thought that if he went back in time then his “frozen version”, would still be frozen. But I guess I hadn’t quite understood their time travel rules

[@Emmanuel-kl7cj]

Next video: The soup that Thanos was making is important

[@calveras86]

And delicious

[@rio20d]

@@calveras86 and tasty

[@PenguEveV]

Mans was just tryna make himself some soup, then the avengers came in😔

[@shadowpriest7386]

@@PenguEveV murderers of a humble vegetarian.

[@shadowpriest7386]

Murderers of a humble vegetarian.

[@cjr_lunn]

with banners model of the time machine, could they de-age cap whenever they might need him for something important?

[@Sofia-jh9kb]

Bungylunn i hope i get uncomfortable seeing him old

[@daltonfarris]

Thats actaully an amazing idea tbh

[@MadrmanX]

Lmaooo

[@lunarsniper2477]

sam Wilson sees this theory Sam Wilson: (insert sweating guy meme)

[@oustetsuo]

How It Should Have Ended actually did that, hahaha

[@jacmalvinsalvesen3425]

KZbin: How many Endgame videos are you doing? Screen Rant: YES

[@salmanzafar8072]

EndGame videos are Tight

[@shinkounova8485]

I wish this whole nonstop train ride of Endgame so called "content" was part of a different channel so I could unsubscribe from it.

[@stellamarkose3262]

@@eeeooo4281 *holds Mjolnir Looper: i knew it

[@steveh4290]

Producer - "So, you've got yet another Screen Rant Avengers End Game video for me?" Writer - "Yes sir I do."

[@steveh4290]

Damn it, someone already put a pitch meeting quote in the replies already.

[@grantbowtiefanaccount2437]

"How did Captain America get back? Well, we will tell you!" *3 minutes of filler later* "So how did Captain America get back? Well, we will tell you!"

[@ianroz1359]

more like 9 minutes later lol

[@izzuddinsofi3329]

Gets paid more for longer view times

[@nothingspeaks]

"Looper". Much like screen rant

[@MasonOfLife]

Exactly what I’m saying

[@matijajuric7997]

You guys seriously cant get a grip on what they say? How can you be so average?0.0

[@ricardocouceiro2806]

A Time-Loop: - In 1945, Steve Rogers dives into ice and wake up in 2012; - He lives his live for 11 years till 2023; - In 2023 he travells back to the past, maybe 1946; - During that time (1946-2023) there are 2 Steve Rogers in the world, the one in its time and the one that already time travelled, which are one and the same; - They would stay in hidding and old Peggy would not tell the young Steve that her husband was him so she wounldn't change his course of action; The simplest way to explain this plot hole is with a Time Loop theory. Then the only thing that still his missing is the children of them both that never have been seen on screen despite the photographs.

[@Richardlonniaux]

Ricardo Couceiro you mean that the girl that capt kissed is related to him

[@zyedaph]

@@Richardlonniaux That's Peggy's neice. Could be a daughter of Peggy's sibling. Don't know if she has though.

[@KonguZya]

So the writers really just shot themselves in the foot when they had Banner explain that changing the past doesn't change your own timeline, right?

[@GrimmShadowsII]

He had the time stone and the stones even back in the comics could override the laws of the universe. @DaphneUy Sharon was Peggy's niece or grand niece so her and Steve were not blood relatives and we know Steve didn't know so maybe Sharon didn't either.

[@zyedaph]

@@GrimmShadowsII yeah Peggy has a sibling and Sharon is that person's daughter or grandchild.

[@idioticfun1901]

Biggest plot hole was that Thanos could transport his ship and his whole army by just one pym particle...

[@luigeribeiro]

Ebony Maw is a genius, he has plenty of time to reverse engineering piym's particles

[@captainsweeney5964]

@@luigeribeiro time? Really? How much time did he have to reverse engineer Pyms life work? He had at most a few minutes to do it before they popped onto Earth.

[@luigeribeiro]

@@captainsweeney5964 a few minutes? really? They could reverse engineering Piym's work in a day, month, 10 years,...it does not matter, because in the end they would have a TIME MACHINE.

[@Metallicadude3187]

They have some pretty advanced technology. Plus by the time they get back to the present in 2023 The Avengers went from mourning Romanoff to building the Nano Gauntlet to deciding who’s going to snap their frickin fingers. That may have been shown as like a 1 minute time frame in the movie but in actual time it could’ve been hours in the present time. Which means it could’ve been months or years of Thanos in their new timeline to be able to multiply Pym Particles.

[@captainsweeney5964]

@@luigeribeiro so if they had a time machine why would they go back to the moment where the Avengers had all the stones? Why not go before they had them all?

[@chivalrydoes3317]

Next Video: Things you don’t realize about Noobmaster69 ok ScreenRant

[@etlchen2477]

Actually CBR made this video

[@chivalrydoes3317]

I was shocked bro. The moment I comment this I saw the video of CBR in my recommendations lmao

[@steveh4290]

Having Noomaster69 as your gamertag is tight!

[@JamesCPotter13]

Noobmaster69 runs a Thanos Skin...that's why Thor hates him.

[@imnoone2838]

You mean 96

[@jacenrogue]

Loki is secretly Noobmaster69

[@charo1554]

O M G

[@camiloidarraga5152]

Lo veremos en su serie de Disney+

[@gotwatercaleb]

That would be awsome

[@gracewood9332]

I wish

[@OMartinez91]

It's actually Wong

[@dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz4463]

MCU exists, SCREEN RANT,LOOPER,CBR: It's free real estate

[@sid98geek]

Because why not?

[@kennethnwebb]

if it wasn't for the MCU....these channels would be dead

[@fairylovesyou]

new rockstars

[@l0lwutwtf]

It's free video content.

[@OurFantasyLife]

*slaps MCU* you can fit so many fan theory videos in this baby

[@chrisbuckley7630]

The plot hole isn't him returning to Peggy... it's Where did an intact Shield come from, after Thanos wrecked Cap's?

[@icykev_0168]

chris buckley from the past captain America

[@koryschulein7778]

@@icykev_0168 Yep, the same way Thor got Mjollner back

[@plummet3860]

@@koryschulein7778 yeh but he returns it he can't steal a shield from the past it would have the same effect as taking a stone

[@sukondisnuts8806]

@@plummet3860 there are many ways for example asking black panther to make him a new one and tell him to not tell anyone about him being from the future and all the stuff

[@PhilBagels]

And what about the Steve Rogers that was native to that time line? The whole thing makes no sense. Did Cap kill his other self and take his place? Are there two Captain Americas in that timeline?

[@iliasmoumen5083]

Steve Rogers just didn't wanna live in the same time where fortnite exists.

[@peterpiggard1833]

Ilias Moumen haha

[@willkroon3372]

Neither do I Anyone know where i can get some pim partticals

[@nzlemming]

I can grok that.

[@thanesladek9901]

Idiots and fools always assume they alone have good taste.

[@Ka27]

cant agree more

[@Azuma15X]

Plot twist, Steve Rogers is Noobmaster69.

[@Junimo-yx6mh]

Why would you say something so controversial, and yet so brave?

[@snikers0601]

Noobmaster69 is a troll. And who's better troll then Deadpool? 😲

[@NutriHeal_by_Dt.Meenakshi]

It could be loki

[@CainnechK]

This is amazing! U win my friend.

[@jaydonboettcher7562]

@@NutriHeal_by_Dt.Meenakshi explain to me how it could be loki

[@JonathanCookeVO]

I don't think he went to the '70's. It wasn't just the car that drove by that suggested '40s. The car parked in the neighbor's driveway was the same, and the clothing and stroller of the mom walking down the sidewalk all suggest it was the 40's.

[@louisfrancisco2171]

I don't remember if it was the directors or the writers that confirmed it was 1948.

[@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story]

@@louisfrancisco2171 And this would explain Peggy's look :)

[@BlackHatCinephile]

We're better at this than Screen Rant. They should forfeit their subs to us.

[@darkonwolf1974]

It was the writers, I read the interview they did for IGN.

[@IsuiGtz]

Also, the song is another clue.

[@FelicityBe3]

Jeez, tha was about 10 minutes too long. Talk of rambling.

[@emilt.m.6418]

and not to mention how this explanation causes new plot holes. Think about it, he lives in an alternate timeline then goes back in time yet jumps to a new timeline? Sounds dodgy. And if that were to be true you can literally use that to find a timeline where the avengers win in the first place, get the infinity stones, go back, snap everything back and the end.

[@emilt.m.6418]

would be a rather short movie don't you think?

[@emilt.m.6418]

also 8:24 would actually be the best explanation and NO, it doesn't go against what banner said. The past was never changed, the past where Cap goes back was the past all along. Cap and Peggy just had to keep it a secret.

[@darkchocospy7080]

the channels called screen rant for a reason

[@tombranch2261]

Alternate theory, It was wibbly wobbly timey wimey......stuff. I believe my theory is better.

[@ngdavid4231]

Tracer piemation

[@micahgelok4648]

Oeuf

[@trashpanda1999]

I like your theory

[@benjw84]

My theory: Back to future = wrong Back to the future part 2 = right

[@ronniebauman28]

Best. Comment. Ever. Haha

[@pascal8616]

Well, tecnicly they could just deage Captain America with the the machine Professor Hulk invented

[@slimretro2659]

That was what I said to everyone , they ignored me.

[@Lanurus]

I don't think he would want to

[@slimretro2659]

@@Lanurus it isn't his choice that bitch ass Nigga has to save the world in the near future they need him

[@knowingpigeon3142]

Pascal. It was an extremely dangerous design so it’s very possible they destroyed. Then again, they could make another one, but it would still be very dangerous

[@justinmagno1994]

and and and they could bring Tony back to life with the stark gauntlet (just have captain marvel or hulk wear it) just saiyan

[@Tony-km6kg]

No one : Every ScreenRant MCU Video: let's not talk about the topic and stall for run time

[@Keegz831]

Tony You can’t monetize under 10 minutes. 😂

[@MotorHeadTech]

so why can't we bring gamora & black widow, tony stark etc before they died & bring them into the future? but how does it makes sense that 2014 thanos & gamora were brought to the future, yet gamora was killed for the soul stone?? wtf smh

[@yizao9289]

Dude if they did bring black widow tony and gamora it would create a new timeline without iron man black widow and gamora so iron man would not have snapped and destroyed thanos’s army and thanos would not have gotten the soul stone from killing gamora and if they brought back black widow then hawk guy would not have the soul stone there for they wouldnt get the complete infinity gauntlet so hulk wouldn’t have brought back half of the universe so that would make a alternate timeline

[@yizao9289]

And yes I know it salty that they killed off black widow iron man and gamora

[@AnmolMishra946]

@@yizao9289 yes but what about thanos and his army coming back to 2023 with gamora that would mean the gaurdians of the galaxy, infinity war and endgame never happened so that would create a different story in there timeline.

[@tobodedodo987]

I can see you didnt see the movie really, this comments are vades on vack to the future

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Next Video: Why Avengers: Endgame is called Avengers: Endgame

[@arnavjain7566]

😝😝😂

[@Words-er5ez]

A much simpler answer is that he went back in time to a point after he had crashed into the ice and was lost then laid low under a false identity while married to Peggy. This would have not altered the timeline or created an alternate future. He would have just lived his life with her until he was an old man sitting on a bench, still in the same timeline.

[@Northern1Reliance]

I believe the earth 616 is the universe where there is two steve rogers, the future rogers is one stuck in past due to lack of pymm particles, faced with no options steve helps peggy create the avengers, and tips off where took a ice nap

[@Cuzjudd]

Because Tony

[@dessnom4333]

next next video: why avengers endgame is the last phase 3 and infinity saga movie

[@thomaslenoir9774]

Actually i think that Steve was always meant to be the husband of Peggy Carter: he didn't created an alternate timeline when he came back next to her, and he lived his life away from the others until the moment who, younger, he steps on the time machine. The writers confirm that Steve was always meant to be Peggy Carter husband, this is why they kept him so mysterious. So no alternate timeline, just a time loophole!

[@joannadaniels8356]

The once and future Steve.

[@jeffyang4992]

Peggy: can you find any good hotel around xxx place Steve: sure, let me google it... Wait.. Nvm

[@Amanda-wh8ww]

I wonder how he fit in going back without all the modern stuff he’d gotten used too. Seems like there might have been some hurdles there.

[@TheDominic74]

Well i hope he invested correctly with all his knowledge. :P

[@silverdc5]

@@Amanda-wh8ww he never got used to the modern stuff

[@biggethchungeththe3rd739]

@@silverdc5 Explain why he uses it in all the avenger movies

[@astrolenus]

@@silverdc5 the avengers quinjet. the phone he had The time travel What more??

[@samy24ar]

I think after returning Tesseract in 1970, Cap went to 1945 as Peggy in 1970 looked a bit old. The Peggy he was dancing at the end of the movie was quite young.

[@rainshadow1844]

I don't think Rogers waited a full week after the events of Endgame to return to the timeline. He wouldn't have had to even wait a full minute.

[@alexubel]

He didn't go until AFTER Tony's funeral. I'm sure given the state of the Earth, it took at least a week before they returned the stones to their timelines.

[@rainshadow1844]

​@@alexubelThat is in reference to the younger Steve Rogers leaving the timeline, not after the fight itself. What the video is saying is that in order for Steve to reintroduce himself to his original timeline, he has to return to it from a point in the future after he would otherwise have left. Based on the theory, if he waits a day or a year or even a minute after his younger self leaves, he can return to the timeline. When the battle happened isn't the important part in the equation, it's that moment in time in which the younger Rogers left the timeline.

[@scottgarber8046]

Austin Kitch That and if he waited until afterward in the timeline hes was in, he’d be meeting the Avengers from that timeline, not the ones from his own...

[@CadaverOutOfTune]

@@rainshadow1844 Thus, creating a Roger's time loop.

[@govindprajapati2155]

or may be he could have vanished in snap of 2018 and got resurrected in 2023 with half of population

[@miguelc2164]

1970's shield headquarters: screenrant cuts to 1940 Steve Rogers emerging as super soldier to a secret facility predating Shield.

[@DonYoGi8331]

Lol

[@themysteriousgravityfalls]

This isn't the biggest plothole. The biggest is plothole is how did did Nebula AND Thanos's ship both go to the future if they only had one pym particle?

[@rit2raww]

Oof

[@rileedavis397]

Because 2014 Thanos and his crew has advanced alien technology, they replicated Pym's technology and got more of their own particles, shrunk down into a tiny size, and were waiting for Nebula to bring them forward from the future once she got there. Nebulas cyberware had all the advanced tech needed to find a beacon in time and space to locate Thanos ship with. Thanos set it up.

[@themysteriousgravityfalls]

@@user-vp2-r6g And why didn't they just take the gauntlet AWAY from the battle

[@brandonnajaralvarez9880]

@@user-vp2-r6g Tony stark had cap's shield ever since Captain America: Civil War, so he simply cleaned it up and gave it back in Endgame.

[@brandonnajaralvarez9880]

@@themysteriousgravityfalls During the final battle of Endgame they were trying to keep it away from Thanos and his army, but they couldn't really escape the battle because of the outriders trying to take the gauntlet from Hawkeye, Black Panther and Spider-Man.

[@IrrepresPal]

Please, don't try to justify Oldman steve, it IS a plothole. Russo brothers admited, it IS a plothole

[@mummifiedgoose15]

YES! And even if old man steve WASN'T a plot hole (which he is) it still made NO damn sese, it ruined Steve's character completely

[@jacobpullen6949]

No it's in 1945 when he meets up with Peggy. That is very clear even when just watching the movie

[@DannyDomenic]

Jacob Pullen "It would make sense for him to go back in the 70s because Peggy would age 25 years while he aged 12 years, keeping them closer in age than if he went to 1945. Plus Steve ages slower than everyone else." Umm what Screen Rant? If he went to the 70s, he and Peggy would be 13 years apart with her being older. If he went back to 1945, they would be 12 years apart with him being older. But he ages slower than her, so they'd still feel very close to the same age. They proved their theory wrong with their own logic... Steve went to 1945 in the alternate timeline.

[@TheJaycee720]

@@DannyDomenic Lol! I know right! Screen Rant just overcomplicated it!

[@shariseanderson8741]

Did anyone else see the woman and her 1940’s baby buggy walking along the sidewalk? It’s clear their reunion was sometime in the late 40’s/early 50’s. We waited 12 years for this sweet dance they both rightfully deserved with each other. It was a brilliant conclusion...for now! (Next chapter will be about their life together raising super powered children.)

[@Scarlet_moon.]

yea,for some reason they kept forcing divorce plot line,but if he went back before she married,he wouldn't really home wreck her familly,so there will be two timelines branching at point of captains return.They were overexplaining something as simple as it gets.

[@zitzle]

I feel like I was the only person paying attention to Professor Hulk's explanation. You can not alter anything in the past, because it becomes your new future. You aren't actually traveling to the past, you're traveling to an alternate timeline, that does not have to go the same way it did in the main MCU.

[@SuperPuzzler]

Pretty much anybody who watched Dragon Ball Z through the Android and Cell arcs could tell you this.

[@kristofdesmet6353]

Then it makes no sense to return the stonrs because with that logic you cant erase the alternate timelines just make new ones.

[@zitzle]

@@kristofdesmet6353 The reason they need to return the stones is because the stones create what they experience as the flow of time. Without them, the timeline they took them from would spiral into darkness. They aren't creating new timelines, they've always been there. They're just running adjacent to the main MCU.

[@SuperPuzzler]

@@kristofdesmet6353 It does, actually. They're still taking the stones to those specific alternate time lines, but keeping them on track by returning them to where they were found.

[@kristofdesmet6353]

But that is changing the future from the past in the alternate timeline ,hulk says you cant do that and yet again he says taking away the stone and putting it back later woudnt change a thing for that timeline. That timeline should be in darkness because they traveled to the future with the stone and that cant be undune according to hulk first statement.

[@shawnn7502]

Ah, you overlooked a HUGE thing. In 1970 Peggy would be in her mid to late 50's. The Peggy Carter we saw in both scenes was not that old. I'm sure Cap went back and made his date like he always regretted not doing. He isn't a homewrecker because Peggy was still in love with Cap at that time and wasn't dating her future husband yet.

[@hilnnerfarias913]

Once he returned the Stones he used his last vial of pim particle (that would be used to return to the present) to travel to the 50's, that's why Peggy isn't old.

[@thejworks07]

@@hilnnerfarias913 you see the hulk follow him back to our timeline with the gps bro he came back from where ever he traveled from The hulk states "he is way passed his mark" then the machine resets and Steven is already at the bench The only thing that is uncertain was how long was he back as a old n for

[@jpowell180]

Maybe the man she married was Steve all along; when she mentioned that she married a soldier Captain America rescued, that can be easily true every time Steve keeps himself from being killed in combat.

[@shawnn7502]

@@jpowell180 Hey, I would love to think Cap was the guy she married all along, but that would go against what they specifically said at the end of the First Avenger/beginning of Winter Soldier when they showed which of Cap's buddies she married.

[@ishzarkklyon9590]

One thing everyone overlooks is that Cap ages much more slowly than other mortals

[@albertko1]

So, the screenwriters for Endgame confirmed that it was Cap that fathered Peggy's kids and was married to her the whole time. So... I guess a soldier that saved her husband... metaphorical I guess.

[@desmondmolloy9173]

Which raises another question-what happens when Super Soldier-affected DNA gets passed down a generation? (And yes, i know this has probably been answered in one of the many thousands of comics).

[@yungt6856]

malchior Peggy knew it all along. She had to hide it from him.

[@crazywindows88]

so he dated his niece..

[@Todbrecher]

@@crazywindows88 actually not quite. from his perspective he dated ....this person prior to being married to Peggy and thus being related to her family.

[@spectorcsm]

Actually, now that you mention it it could have been metaphorically 'saved'. This might be a stretch, but maybe she was saying that Steve's soldier self saved him, which in many cases it did. So it is possible she was talking about him all along... O_O

[@TheVision-gd7np]

There's no point in watching this video Save your time

[@SivaR1020]

First thing I do when I come to an Endgame video: Check the comment section. Thank you for saving my 12 mins

[@XtremezakTV]

it's decent enough to watch. not a full waste.

[@buzzard511]

I’ve literally unsubbed Cos of all these videos that are so obvious if you watch the film and remotely use your brain

[@jyesucevitz]

I've noticed they make dozens of mcu videos and just recycle footage and dialog they've used b4 and ultimately trek is nothing.

[@Tomgd420]

Jamie Buzzard Aside from the Pitch Meetings have they ever made quality content?

[@icowrich]

The mystery husband IS Steve. The writers have explicitly said this. That’s why the husband wasn’t in the photo. They planned this way back then.

[@MariocarrilloOfficial]

*hits blunt* That's deep

[@1TokeNChoke]

Yep. The writers were on Kevin Smiths podcast and they said this.

[@braundgls5]

It makes sense. There's no exposition of Peggy's husband anywhere in the MCU. Cap chose to keep a low profile as to not disturb the current timeline, played the Star Trek thing...Prime Directive. thus not influencing the timeline and still getting the girl.He was able to show up when he did because that's where his hidden past ends and the unknown future begins. Only then, was he able to show himself. Because the other cap was gone and had no future in the current timeline.

[@captainsweeney5964]

But you see THAT right there is NOT the time travel idea the movie set up for itself. You can't change the future by going into the past. You only create alternate realities. So if Captain America had ALWAYS gone to be with Peggy that would mean that the Avengers NEVER would've failed, that Dr. Strangest statement was false, and this universe has no free will.

[@GrimmShadowsII]

It's explained by the infinity stone. When the stone returns to it's time it act's like a stopper preventing another timeline from being created, Steve was merely under the stopper and therefore didn't create an alternate timeline and still got to be with Peggy.

[@Tommyturbo1981]

Professor hulk did say that cap flew past the 2023 time line when they tried to bring him back

[@guitarman0365]

right?????!!!!!! I don't know why so many people are so confused over the ending. That line proves that he did come back just not through the machine when and where they expected him too.

[@l750z_6]

guitarman0365 so how else did he get back then

[@ralph3846]

He will appear in the future. Rugged and troubled. He will say "Doom is coming"...

[@frankohashiguchi]

Dune reference?

[@notyoursoup1279]

Thomas Protentis I think I missed that part due to my crying

[@snowy2538]

Those who don't understand but still keep watching Like this comment

[@dackelchendackelchen5476]

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[@extractgaming7244]

Remember when antman first used the prototype time machine they could use that on captain America to turn him into his younger self and keep the memorys

[@idontgetjokes4614]

Extract Gaming it was destroyed by thanos

[@Sebi1998]

What are you doing in my swamp! Rebuild it ?

[@SuperAdamSaiyan]

That's what HISHE did

[@lordroo8484]

@@idontgetjokes4614 The rebuild it - where is the point?

[@alexandredesouza3692]

My theory is that the role for Old Man Cap was originally meant for Stan Lee.

[@voidme457]

You have no idea how bad I want that. Mr. Lee gave me a universe I could go to when I was living through a somewhat shitty childhood in the 70s. Excelsior!!!

[@aaricn04]

X Wilson but Stan wrote like 5 characters

[@krneki0074]

Probably not tho it would be cool, the whole movie was already filmed before Stan Lee died

[@alexandredesouza3692]

@@krneki0074 Deleted scene?

[@JamesEarlRayMLK]

Joe Russo confirmed that was almost a thing but it would’ve been a bit confusing because Stan had a few other cameos.

[@georgeblackwell2306]

If he created a parallel time line why would he leave anything the same? He could have identified and eliminated every Hydra agent, made friends with Ultron and joined the east Coast Avengers for all we know....

[@diegoaraya6560]

Yeah, that's my headcanon, he help to dismantle Hydra at least on the NY timeline and the 1970 timeline.

[@georgeblackwell2306]

Nathan Hartsell Did you watch the movie? A butterfly effect can’t happen when you create a different time line.. The two would not cross....

[@Sharikacat]

He didn't do it because he didn't do it. If he had done it, then he would have already done it an created the future where it happened the first time. More simply, he couldn't return to the same moment in his original timeline if he instead created a branch from the past.

[@georgeblackwell2306]

Sharikacat watch the movie again... they specifically say this is not like back to the future... different times do not cross....

[@Sharikacat]

@@georgeblackwell2306 Exactly! Cap had to make sure he didn't create an alternate timeline if he wanted to be able to return to when he first left on his mission. Since he returned to the same timeline from whence he left, we then know he didn't alter the timeline.

[@grobanworldnews4216]

Go with what the Russos told us: Steve lived in an alternate TL with Peggy and returned to the prime TL using a Pym particle. The Russos said this would be shown in future movies.

[@Fukushima_Akira]

The Russos never stated this. It's also been confirmed by the writers that Peggy's mystery husband, the one she spoke of in Civil War, was Steve. the timeline we've been watching in the movies, the main timeline, always had 2 Steve Rogers. One of the writers even said, in reference to Peggy's funeral: "I loved the idea of having two Steve Rogers in the same timeline. One who lived a long life with Peggy and is in the background of that funeral scene watching his young self carry his wife’s coffin. Not just for the time travel mumbo-jumbo of it but for the weird personal pain and satisfaction that would be happening between two Steve Rogers there."

[@salmanzafar8072]

6:57 so that explains why Agent Peggy Carter Got Cancelled. She Was Hiding with Cap all the time

[@lukestafford3284]

Salman Zafar no. That was in an alternate timeline

[@Laufbursche4u]

It was an awesome series. Loved it a lot.

[@salmanzafar8072]

@@lukestafford3284 so then I blame Kevin fiege for cancelling agent Carter

[@nathanaelcadman-neu410]

@@Laufbursche4u me too, it was so great to be the only person in the theater to know who Jarvis was when he appeared in Endgame

[@tkgwildfire5339]

@@lukestafford3284 Maybe or it was a quantum mechanical time travel.

[@bman87301]

Also, he definitely didn't reunite with Peggy in 1970-- he had to have gone back to the 40s or 50s, otherwise he wouldn't have aged as much as he did (especially considering how he's already supposed to age slower to begin with). The car was definitely meant to show it was NOT 1970.

[@cassieo]

bman87301 I agree. Pretty sure it’s 1950’s and Steve was just a couple years tardy for their dance at the Stork Club. 💃🏻

[@ralphspradley7988]

Rogers clearly went back to the 1940s or early 1950s. The cars, radio, and house are clearly from the 1940s/50s. This was always the splinter reality where Rogers went back. And their are multiple cars that are from the era, I counted at least 5 in the pan shot.

[@cian.14yearsago15]

Ralph Spradley and also it was during-to after world war2

[@vercladsreapers947]

i always think that peggy husband is future captain all along, in all the movie the husband face is never revealed and even when it mentioned by peggy, she could just lie about it since she know her husband is a time traveler that shouldn't exist in her time, and there wouldn't be any loophole since no history is changed just like hulk said, it's just the past have became the future for steve. he, his wife peggy, and everyone connected to them is covering it, knowing peggy position in shield its not that hard to imagine

[@travisgarrett7037]

Can't had to be put back at the point they were taking got to pay attention

[@theherrdark4834]

One thing you missed was that when he was in Peggy's office, he saw her and she had on her wedding ring, and on her desk was a pic of Steve, it was at that moment Steve knew he was with her. He could still operate for SHIELD but it is possible it was under the codename Nomad. He could have also been the one to influence getting Fury setup as the Director of SHIELD.

[@TriploF]

The cars at the end of Endgame are clearly older than the 1970s. I think he went back to the 40s or 50s.

[@jimmeier547]

That, and Peggy sure didn't look to be in her early to mid 50's as she would be in the 1970's

[@marvelousrex2866]

That's what I thought too. It seemed to me and the 3 other people who saw it with me, that they showed those 40s style vehicles and showed him dancing with Peggy to establish that he went back to get the dance they talked about at the end of Cap 1. Which would put him going back to the early 1940s.

[@liquidsleepgames3661]

Also he tried to kill hitler then slay the jabbawaki

[@68greenhornet]

He went clearly went back to 40s Not 70s.

[@singaravelsudeeksha281]

He goes back to 1949...as per the script...

[@starhawk63]

Naw, I prefer the screenwriters' explanation. Steve Rogers was always the man Peggy had married. (They wrote both screenplays....)

[@KingBurger52]

That means Steve got all wincest on his granddaughter.

[@starhawk63]

@@KingBurger52 she's Peggy's great-niece, not her granddaughter.

[@artemisarrow9545]

@@starhawk63 that really doesn't make it better

[@GrimmShadowsII]

But when the infinity stone is returned it acts as a stopper and as long as Steve stays in the sametime as he returns the stone, or maybe a side effect of handling the stones particularly the time stone, he can stay there "under the stopper". Even back in the comics the stones could rewrite the laws of the universe.

[@martialartmaniac5001]

AdrFax but that’s to her understanding and on top of that, if Steve did break that rule it could bring Kang the Conqueror into the MCU, that’s how he made an appearance before, he also had a vendetta against Steve in that series as well. So they could be setting that up

[@agent2244]

When everybody thinks iron man would get the family ending,but captain America gets it instead.... Thanos: reality is often disappointing. Edit: I see your point on the fact he deserved it.

[@da1king0fwakanda56]

Cap deserved it

[@godsavecanada]

@@da1king0fwakanda56 yeah

[@leoholloway641]

so did Tony

[@da1king0fwakanda56]

Ky Holloway I agree, but he got to live his life before

[@GrimmShadowsII]

I think Tony dying was a better ending for him. We saw when he was "retired", or whatever you want to call it, that he still had his computer to run experiments on. He may have told people he was done but you could see from the way he and Pepper talked that he wasn't. There was no way he could ever stop and be done while he was alive, he would be too worried about losing everything. He deserved a rest same as Steve but he couldn't turn it off like Steve. It's all summed up in Pepper's goodbye, "We're going to be OK, you can rest now"

[@DedMonie]

The problem with the plot was why give the shield to Sam and not Bucky.

[@bennywarren9870]

So what you're saying is Captain America and Peggy Carter adventures movie confirmed 😂🤣

[@GrimmShadowsII]

No atleast part of the reason Tony died and Cap became old is because Chris and Robert want to move on and do other stuff. A decade is a long time to do the same role especially a physical role like a superhero I don't blame them being tired and am glad they did it as long as they did and got a proper send off.

[@ChizKake]

Movie Or perhaps Agent of Carter new seasons?

[@reyrey0009]

Well if we don't see her husband in the photos then perhaps it is Steve meaning the children are his and that he was making sure not to have any links to him for his future self and Peggy played along. Perhaps Steve even went by a fake name. Plus since Peggy is a part of shield maybe Nick knew and helped keep it all undercover.

[@retrodealer6495]

You just made it more confusing than all the time travel movies combined. Thank you😂😠😆.

[@daddybdpearson1]

That wasn't the plot hole that had me confused. Since the shield was broken: Where did the new shield come from that he gave Falcon?

[@nonajoseph8294]

He took it from Howard Stark?

[@saritshull3909]

@@nonajoseph8294couldn't have. He would have had to take it from OG steve's popsicle in the ice and then return it in time for Coulson and team to dig it up with him in 2011.

[@joeschmoe7978]

Time Travel: Its either all a joke or none of it is.

[@Crybe]

They likely fixed his shield between the end of the last battle, using the vibranium that Wakanda has an excess amount of.

[@JB-1138]

Rogers went to the 40s. Not 1970. Get real.

[@Skyhawkie]

Correct, the ranter seems to have forgotten that they were only in the 70's for pym particles, not the stone.

[@chickensouplover516]

Skyler Salva that’s where they got the space stone bruh

[@BrianHSC]

Doesn't matter, with infinite supply of Pym particles, Rogers (or any Avengers for that matters) can time travel anytime at will.

[@darkredwing]

@@Skyhawkie Think you need to rewatch the movie. They went back to the 70s because Loki took the stone in 2012 and disappeared. The shield base in the 70s was the perfect choice because that was where both the stone, and Pym particles would be at the same time. Stark met his father while retrieving the stone, meanwhile Cap saw Peggy in her office while he was hiding from base guards after stealing some Pym Particles.

[@erikasl.7050]

@@Skyhawkie rewatch the movie m8, u will see space stone in shield base taken by Tony

[@random11]

the writers explicitly denied this theory.... RIP your theory

[@brandonjordan4596]

Didn't finish the video, I thought the same at first.

[@teleradiomarvel]

so what did they tell? That cap returned to the same timeline for poetry? Everyone can realize that that end is illogic without an hypotesis like this one Where is the article where Lorusso bros. denied it?

[@spencernaugle]

The Writer's (Not the Russo's) basically said the endings is up to interpretation, which makes no sense. But the Director's (The Russo Brother's) They know better and said what actually happened.

[@jtw290]

The real solution is revealed in the Spider-Man Far From Home trailer. The Snap ripped a hole in space time and allows passage between the multi-verse. The same way Mysterio is “from Earth, just not our Earth.” Captain America could have hopped over to “Our Earth” from his alternate reality to pass on his shield. No plot hole. We just didn’t have all the info yet.

[@jtw290]

@@thearchivalist8179 Thanks, Fixed.

[@roychan3109]

Avengers Endgame: Simply exists CBR, Screen Rant, Looper: Makes redundant videos WHY AVENGERS END GAME: WHY THANOS IS PURPLE!!!! WHY IS THANOS PICKING SPACE PAPAYAS THANOS HAS SWORD

[@ytminis]

Hahahahahaha

[@abyssmage6979]

Relatable

[@TheModeRed]

$$$ and Envy

[@IanHollis]

Put it this way "The past is written, the ink is dry." Also, "Hodor." Cap' didn't change a damn thing by going back into the past because it had already happened.

[@jbrandt7]

I agree he went back and became Peggy‘s husband, but he was Peggy’s husband all along.

[@MilkandCookiesAU]

I hope those straws you're grasping at aren't made of plastic.

[@KingRandor82]

Glorious

[@chrisjfox8715]

I hope you use your brain someday.

[@lostdrewid]

Name one grasped straw. All of that is heavily implied by the movie.

[@barneystinson2781]

@@lostdrewid it was grasping at straws to assume the car was just a classic and not an indication of time period. It was clearly supposed to imply the 1940s

[@2naturesownplace]

Plastic Straws do easily.....SNAP!

[@XHecs999]

Wait, if cap America went back to 1970 then Peggy would be already a lot older than him

[@thejworks07]

He has aged since being unthawrd bro

[@Hezikyrone]

But not 30 years she would be mid 50s early 60s

[@jpowell180]

Can you imagine Steve and Peggy hitting the Discos in the 70s?

[@MsMeowBaby]

@@jpowell180 that would have been great to see and, also the 80s!

[@randomanimefan0154]

I toats have to agree with you,what you said right there is toats a movie plot hole cus Cap was a soldier that lived around the 1950's or 30's during the world wars,and in 1970 the war was like full on over years prior,so Peggy toats would have been an old lady by then in the 1970's so why keep her young in that time line if she's supposed to be an old lady during that timeline in the 1970's?..,plus another plothole is what Stark said in one of the Avengers movies i think it was [Avengers Civil War] movie when he said that... he said his father made the shield of capn america but in reality that shield was actually made by tony stark's great great grandfather so why even say his dad made it when in reality the dad of tony's dad made it?...They full on messed up right there man.

[@neon0025]

Just a question doesn't it mean when cap returned to return the stones there is still a lurking Thanos going to look for the stones it seems like a never ending loop tbh like the one in Dr.Strange Edit: OMG now I know why Thanos said I am inevitable and that was the plot hole

[@lloydmus6634]

Thanos in other timelines will always perform the SNAP.

[@PhamNicolas99]

Except for the timeline where they stole the Power and Soul stone. Because their Thanos traveled to the prime timeline and got killed. That timeline is completely Thanos-free :)

[@lrvdo]

Exactly, like still they are on their own

[@shaunwochek23]

They should make an hour long movie of cap returning the stones and a run down of his life when he went back in time to spend his days with Peggy

[@tbugtreybob]

Disney, "No I dont think I will."

[@johnwesleyhuss2327]

Nobody: Screenrant: Why thanos's soup is more important than you think

[@daxbizek6357]

Copied

[@lrvdo]

Because it gives perfectly balanced nutrition. That's what he is feeding to his chirren

[@sarah-jaynemcdonald2594]

It's simple, he lived his life while captain America was in the ice.

[@triplenz]

Exactly. So.much deliberation for something so straight forward

[@sarah-jaynemcdonald2594]

@@purpleturtle8841 sorry but your comment makes no sense to me. He could have secretly met Peggy after he crashed she wouldn't have betrayed him, lived with a different identity as her husband and seen his younger self in the avengers as it was all happening. They said the only change would be bring everyone back. Perhaps old capt was there watching all along and no one knew. Therefor this was always the original time line.

[@gaterockin]

@@sarah-jaynemcdonald2594 Yup, he was Peggy's husband the whole time. He didn't change anything and he didn't travel forward in time to the bench he just went there. Old cap and young cap lived in the same time.

[@russell8432]

Soooooo much long comments....

[@sarah-jaynemcdonald2594]

@@russell8432 lol, hardly! 🤣

[@Brook11223]

Chris Evans had the script and showed it to Anthony Mackie regarding the ending as to how Rogers would pass the mantle to Wilson. Mackie had stated this in an IMDB interview about taking on the mantle of Captain America and how he can be a hero for his kids....

[@Sharikacat]

The way that scene is shot, it feels like there was an alternate scene where Cap passes the shield to Bucky instead, but after lengthy discussion about what makes sense for the characters then and plans for them going forward, they decided that Sam getting the shield was the proper path.

[@Rishi123456789]

Raghu Seetharaman I see you everywhere, man. You're on the Aladdin videos too.

[@iamweaponizedkodai7466]

@@Sharikacat Rewatch Steve and Bucky just before steve leaves to return the stones. To me its clear Bucky knows what steve is about to do. I would not be surprised if we are told Bucky and Steve talked about it, including passing the shield before hand.

[@Sharikacat]

@@iamweaponizedkodai7466 I'd heard that had happened, but considering the lengths Marvel went to keep spoilers under wraps, it really wouldn't surprise me if they had shot several small alternate scenes just in case. The cut to the start of that scene felt to me a little abrupt (like if you had selected a "choose your path" option), and that also made me think they had filmed both options.

[@MarkAsselin]

@@iamweaponizedkodai7466 I rewatched the movie just yesterday and I agree: Bucky betrays knowledge, or at least an inkling, of what Cap was about to do.

[@josephdwyer8537]

Steve going back and staying makes a new timeline. Period. He would not be able to appear in the original timeline just sitting on a bench. He'd have to teleport to the pad. That's how it works by their new time rules. The GPS takes them back to the pad everytime including Thanos' ship. They put old man Cap in just because they liked the idea.

[@JSSTyger]

Butttt….how about that time stone that Steve had?

[@JSSTyger]

@@valdagrimborn465He's saying the time travel doesn't make sense but might be forgetting that Rogers is carrying a stone that can do all sorts of things with time.

[@JSSTyger]

@@valdagrimborn465He can find The Ancient One in whatever time period he goes to.

[@wolf1066]

Next *Screen Rant* video: "How Steve actually went back to the *1940s* rather than the 1970s, like we said in our *previous* video". Next video after that: "More things we said in previous videos that made no sense to people who watched the film..." What's the company motto? "Quantity Over Quality"?

[@russell8432]

LMFAO

[@gaminglife0928]

😂😂😂

[@grantallen6573]

The writer's said cap had always gone back and married Carter Her children are his children

[@matthewcoleman6423]

I'd say this would suffice. Plus, Peggy was no more than 40 when they danced. It wasn't no 1970. Some people just think too much. Why can't y'all just go see a movie, go home and get on with your lives, instead of picking it apart and mutilating it?

[@theBoarSkinner]

So Sharon Carter is is Steve's niece in law? So he had a short relationship with his niece?

[@grantallen6573]

@@theBoarSkinner yes unknowingly at the time of course

[@GrimmShadowsII]

Grant plus niece by marriage so that helps as well as unknowingly. They're not blood relatives.

[@WebSpyder777]

The directors contradicted them and bottom line, the writers' explanation violates the very rules of time travel that they wrote into the movie.

[@mrpanicy]

Or... and this is much more likely... he was always there in timeline with them. But knew better than to interfere. Peggy can keep a secret, so that isn' a problem. Him staying in the past was just completing that loop. This is the one that makes more sense and feels more correct.

[@sarcastro7945]

It was more dramatic to have him appear on the bench off scene. But if they had just have him reappear on the platform as an old man it would have been very clear that he lived his life in an alternate timeline. By using the bench it implies that he lived his life in the same timeline and just knew when to meet them. Also if cap went back to before Peggy was married wouldn't that also work? He created a new timeline just to be with her, he isn't wrecking any marriages if he marries her first

[@GimR]

My guy is really stretching that 10 minutes

[@MNliveLifeNlove]

Or it was meant to be . He could have went back in time and The ancient one did something with the time stone or probably told Cap that it was okay and that him going back in the past and living his life with Peggy was okay because it was written in time the only thing he would have to do in order to avoid creating another time line and not have to appear on that platform where Hulk and the rest were waiting was to avoid everyone and let all the events in the past happen without interaction. So in reality he is the secret husband which is why Peggy did not change her name and why her children were not present. And when it was time, he just walked up right to the lake

[@sepkos9680]

He kissed his niece then

[@VoltisArt]

Yeah, but we've survived twins snogging over in Star Wars. ::shrug::

[@MrSiriusAB]

Tony Stark: *hugs Spiderman* Looper, New Rockstars, Screen Rant, CBR, [insert KZbin channel here]: What Iron Man and Spiderman hug really meant

[@smitha1994]

The explanation is actually very simple. Steve didn't create an alternate timeline when he travelled back to live with Peggy, that has always been the timeline. From Steve's point of view, his life went: WW2 -> unfrozen in 2011 -> lived up until 2023 (the MCU we see) -> travelled back in time to be with Peggy -> lives through until 2023 where he goes to meet Sam to give him the shield. Steve was always Peggy's mystery husband. There were, in fact, two Captain America's alive at the same time throughout the MCU, one old and one young, we just didn't know it

[@jordanjj6996]

summary of this video is at 11:18 ... you’re welcome

[@skinnydelight2871]

Wow if only I didn't watch the entire thing first haha

[@stachvandenbosch1537]

Wow thanks

[@lordlyhawk]

Thx

[@wikters4009]

the best thing could be if Steve Rogers was the stan lee from all cameo's all this time

[@airlag]

If anything, Stan Lee is the One Above All. Steve is not even close to that.

[@wikters4009]

@@airlag yeah but that would be a big plotwist

[@spectorcsm]

Like, imagine at the end of the movie it's just Stan sitting there. XD XD XD

[@AdityaGuptaX]

Next Video: Howard the Duck was actually Thanos!

[@CAIDENROX]

That moment when you realise Captain America kissed his niece in Winter Soldier.

[@Solamon_the_goob]

Probly was his daughter

[@CAIDENROX]

Sharon Carter went to Aunt Peggy's funeral. That's his niece.

[@umutcoskun2542]

That was actually in Captain America Civil War

[@rosyellis14]

😳

[@w41duvernay]

How about this plot hole...How will falcon be Captain America without getting the Super Serium.

[@thelongstory6395]

Same way he was in the comics.

[@roxomega]

Steve isn't a homewrecker even if he swoops in before she's married alternate timeline Fresh Start means mystery man was never hers to begin with

[@CainnechK]

The way it was explained in the movie is that a alternate timeline doesn’t get created unless the stones weren’t returned.

[@roxomega]

@@CainnechK And yet when they went back in time it was an alternate timeline regardless of whether or not the stones were taken or return and they spoke of each timeline as if they were separate

[@CainnechK]

Rhox Omega I don’t think thats the case. it was the same timeline, it was just current events taking place in the past. Thats why as long as the stones were returned to the same moment they were taken from the timeline remained intact. So if Cap returned all the stones there is no alternate timeline for him to exist in. So he definitely would have effected history. Sharon Carter would have known him as Uncle Steve and that kiss in Civil War would have been super weird

[@roxomega]

@@CainnechK it is an alternate timeline as you see Loki runs off with the space Stone which sets up his mini-series they even say when they're going for the space Heist they're going to a different universe at a different phase in time

[@Gotenhanku]

@@CainnechK No the only reason the infinity stones were returned is cause the ancient one stated that a universe where the stones were removed like that would ultimately be doomed thus they had to return the stones to the exact time they were taken so as to prevent an alternate timeline that didn't have the stones since ,as heroes, they can't allow themselves to willingly doom another timeline just to save their own. They were still creating alternate timelines regardless like there is now one where Thanos will NEVER snap cause he jumped to a different time and was erased thus that timeline is now safe from Thanos forever. Just think of the alternate timelines as alternate dimensions cause that's what they are. Marvel has a lot of Alternate Dimension and even has an entire storyline about those dimensions crossing and fighting. The biggest proof of this is the fact that Original Timeline Nebula kills that past timeline version of herself and yet still exists meaning they are not connected in anyway.

[@anmolbansal2604]

0:43 "Now we will become the true heroes of the story...." The Rat was the one!!!

[@harrisondelap5190]

That last part, when Steve and Peggy dance look so much like in the 40s, not 1970.

[@scalp340]

Or.... There is a reason why we don't know who Peggy's husband actually is. Because it was Steve all along and he just kept himself secret as to not mess up the timeline or influence himself in the future, so the prime timeline we know in the MCU was actually a product of Cap's adventures when returning the stones all along. Plothole solved.... Barely an inconvenience.

[@harriskallada]

Yeah, that is the possibility

[@zengunslinger]

That theory is tight

[@scalp340]

@@zengunslinger yes, someone got the reference. love it!

[@falkofscrum]

It's because of bad, redundant videos like this that I remind myself that the only reason I'm even subscribed to SR is because of the Pitch Meeting-videos

[@JD-ym2hg]

So true

[@davidschloss2656]

Yup. Same.

[@TheKnoxious]

Okay but can we talk about how gamora got to come from the past and stay but no one thought hey let's go grab Tony and nat?

[@schuvalt09]

Good one. Haha genius

[@edubgames4130]

Gamora was a result of Thanos coming thru, no 1 went and got her. You can't intentionally bring them back from the past without screwing with the timeline again. Avengers never brought anything back with them they shouldn't, that's why they still have to put the stones back right b4 they were taken so it's as if they were never gone. Here's the real kicker, Gamora was still part of Thanos' army who Tony had no clue about. When Tony snaps away Thanos & his army did he think, EXCEPT Gamora?

[@TheKnoxious]

@@edubgames4130 they absolutely *could* intentionally bring them back. In my head it would make sense that if they killed 2018 thanos then technically that future would be different anyway. So theyve already changed a future by literally killing someone majorly important? Also gamora switched sides so I think that's why she didnt snap away. she had already changed her mind and helped them

[@edubgames4130]

This Gamora may never fall in love with Quill

[@edubgames4130]

But fair point why Gamora didn't snap away

[@JamesBartlett1994]

There's honestly nothing that says Steve and Peggy had to stay in hiding in the alternate universe, nothing that happens in that timeline has been shown in the movies. Steve could've stopped 9/11 in his timeline, but that wouldn't change the movie timeline. Since we never see anything from the alternate timeline, we don't know what Captain America did or didn't do. In fact, he could've helped them find the other Captain America frozen in ice and then there would have been 2 Steves running around without affecting the movie timeline.

[@ab3040]

What if old Steve Roger's got snapped

[@icowrich]

He would have returned 5 years later.

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

I thought of that, it would have been interesting, though he would have been the only one to know it was temporary.

[@jasonlowe8809]

You covered most everything… But I still don’t understand, would he run into Steve Rogers from that timeline?… Because that could mess everything up

[@funnyassshiet]

Wasn't he forzen during that time tho???

[@thefattbackshow7364]

He was frozen til 2011

[@carlosboyd5942]

Steve and Peggy: A Love Story The next Disney+ Series!!! Make It Happen!!!

[@gerliedelosreyes9915]

YESSSSSSSSSSS STEVE AND PEGGY DAYS

[@ags5696]

How about an Agent Carter reboot? such an underrated series that ended too soon.

[@dh031729]

No. I think the Ancient One helped Steve, when he returned the time stone, go to the actual past to live his life. His plan was to create a new timeline, but the Ancient One felt bad and said he actually belonged in the current timeline. She probably used a combination of the time stone and dark energy from Dormammu's dimension.

[@scloftin8861]

I like this idea. Really cool. The Ancient One had a lot of secrets, what's one more?

[@jomarvirg]

new netflix serie - captain america who episode 01 - stones episode 02 - peggy 01 - first love < reality 01 episode 03 - peggy 02 - first second love < reality 02 episode 04 - peggy 03 - first third love < reality 03 ...

[@Misdirected_Heart]

So you are saying Steve Rogers 'Cap't' every Peg?

[@gregorynelson4609]

I love this theory. It would be great to see an Agent Carter season 3 to tie it all together.

[@KingRandor82]

No it wouldn't; Season 2 was a painful downgrade from Season 1; after Endgame, and Agent Carter Season 2, enough with the downgrades, huh?

[@shazae4415]

To destroyed more for Cap character!!

[@shimsy41]

This explanation is SO convoluted. Easier explanation, when Cap went back in time he most definitely made a different timeline. It didn't matter what he did in the past cuz it was an alternate timeline. His return destination to the present was back to the Endgame timeline. So in the Endgame timeline, Cap still never married Peggy. Two separate timelines. Phew, that still seems complicated.......

[@Dariddda]

It was explained in the movie really clearly... if you take a stone from a timeline, it break the timeline into 2. If you put all stones back in the exact time and place where they where, it combines the 2 or several timelines back together. Steve put all stones back where they belonged, so after that he lived his life in the past up until the moment endgame "ended". So basicly there where 2 Captain Americas in the timeline right untill the original Cap gone back in time to restore the stones. Simple.

[@edwardcook2973]

Finally, someone who understands!

[@billbryant6156]

Nicely done! I agree on your theory and think retuning the stones should have its own movie.

[@_Feanor_.]

Actually it's not that great. Steve didn't travel to 1970 to link back up with Peggy. Because when we see their dance scene she isn't looking as old as she did in the 1970s. Clearly they linked up before. It's also a stretch given her involvement with shield that nobody in shield ever met her husband. That he wasn't vetted for security reasons given the nature of her job. Or that Sharon Carter wouldn't have recognized that her aunts husband was an older Captain America. And that's just a few problems. There is also the fact that he took the stones back to get them to the places where they took them from. But the grabbed the scepter and the tesseract. He's not bringing those back, just the stones that were inside. Those are some mighty big changes in those timelines. Loki is still in the wind in the New York timeline because he left with that tesseract. It's very doubtful that Steve could fix that mess on his own. And the timeline where they took the powerstone doesn't have a Thanos in it anymore. Huge change. There is no way he can neatly wrap up and replace the stones so that there is just that one timeline remaining, as explained in the Banner/Ancient One scene. That's never gonna happen. Also, old man Cap hand Falcon his shield. Young Cap left with the stones and Thors hammer. He didn't have his shield I think, and it got smashed by Thanos anymways. So where is that shield he hands falcon coming from? He obviously created a new timeline because he stole a new shield someone leaving that realities Captain America without one.

[@Jeudaos]

It's not a plot hole. It's a break in the timelines. As falcon said, in his time they are going to have a completely different cap. which is now him. Steve staying in the past creates a WHOLE NEW set of multi verse options for the mcu.

[@Icy_Shadow_5]

They explain that going back into the past doesn't change the past, it just becomes the person who time travel's new future

[@jzfy]

how about "Why Noobmaster69 is still in Fortnite after Thor's threat"

[@thezyrex5692]

Okay here is what I think I understood.... Steve returns all the stones. Goes back to Peggy at the time of the dance and creates an alternate timeline. A timeline where she doesn't marry some soldier . A timeline which we are not shown. And when Peggy dies he uses the Pym particle to come back to the original timeline we are familiar with In short he lives his life in 2 timelines.