Why Ayato's Damage Scales Off... HP? (Genshin Impact Gameplay Design Analysis)

Taking a look into why Kamisato Ayato's damage bonus from the Namisen Stacks on his elemental skill, Kyouka, scales with his maximum HP rather than attack.
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Intro: 0:00
Kit Summary: 0:38
HP Scaling In General: 1:34
Implication: 3:01
Conclusion: 5:29
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[@KazumiyaEnthusiast]

HP also kinda compensates for his inability to move freely while dealing damage in his "anime slashes" state (he can tank a little bit more)

[@braddl9442]

Yeah it makes him a bit tankier like your said and able to take a hit.

[@Morganaplays]

Is hutao ever coming back

[@despasito9004]

@@Morganaplays probably during Halloween

[@lutriula]

Not really. It would if he'd be immune to interuptions in this state. Than, having more hp, you could choose to take demage from enemies to continue attacking. But now if you take the blow you lose both hp and dps output.

[@Cykadelia]

@@Morganaplays Eventually yea. Not anytime soon though, I'd say 6 months at the minimum.

[@MoneyMan553388]

On one hand I appreciate the fact that they're making *dead* stat rolls on an artifact better, but on the other hand I am starting to get concerned that Hoyoverse may be using this as a possible bandaid for the poor artifact farming system without actually really improving it. While it would be nice going forward that characters get more improvements from minor stats in the future, I really hope that they make artifacts in general easier to farm.

[@KudaGeatsune3821]

Or better yet have us run the domain once and then just add the option to reroll the stats by paying the 20 resin again Less trouble that way

[@RedCoreX725]

You know shimenawa set is actually better for Ayato consistent DMG during his skill than the new artifact set The new artifact set just has too much RNG to it that makes it very inconsistent unless the character have a good basic attack animation speed (like Fischl or Yoi) or multiple hit on their normal attack (Like Qiqi and keqing) or can increase their own attack speed (Like Jean C2)

[@rainierrr07]

@@RedCoreX725 its not even that bad for ayato because he attacks so fast

[@judewatts6942]

Honestly agree the amount of RNG for these artifacts is completely horrendous by comparison. Sure you have a good HP% or Def% main stat with some nice crit substats. But its always pieces that dont benefit those HP or Def scaling charas. So youre forced to make that your off piece while hoping you get a perfect 4 piece to go with it. Cause most of the time these stat scaling charas have their own 4 pieces that will optimize their damage.

[@cytnix879]

i personally think they’re tryna do smth with hydro+ dendro and electro + dendro reactions since a lot of hp chars scale off of hp like the newer ones, ayato/yelan for electro, yae has that weird em scaling bonus on her passive, and shinobu has some em scaling too. it’s a bit weird since em “sucks” on electro compared to em on other reactions

[@Zylldriel]

As a hydro char it's no wonder that Ayatos Gameplay is fluid

[@ZMA.]

🥁

[@iakmiih115]

Stop

[@hebislay]

I love to SEA such funny puns

[@perrytheplate8212]

@@iakmiih115 _Ocean up_

[@iakmiih115]

@@hebislay no

[@bluebunnyriven3687]

I think it would make sense later down the line if Hoyoverse changed hydro resonance to buffing HP rather than healing bonus since a lot of hydro characters synergize well with having HP. Maybe that could be something they would change in the future if we're lucky.

[@lfngek6578]

Geo resonance got changed back when Zhongli got buff so we have hope

[@desertdust6969]

@@lfngek6578 Electro Resonance didn't change after Raiden release So you can't be completely sure

[@vonakakkola]

hydro is related to healing, not so much with hp (as a element) maybe they can change it but it must be related with healing

[@kugatsujuunana7436]

That would also make vape hutao alot stronger.

[@MrTymoPL]

They could literally change hydro resonance to 30%hp bonus and noone would complain

[@thecrystalliaguild]

Easy answer: Hydro Impact Geo: DEF Anemo: EM Electro: ER Pyro: ATK Cryo: CRIT Rate Hydro: HP (fav one)

[@jeg1889]

Dendro crit damage?

[@uandmeko7034]

Personally I think cryo is just crit in general

[@higaiwokeru]

what about Dendro then? imo, Dendro characters should be summoners or sumn

[@thecrystalliaguild]

@@higaiwokeru Click read more if you want, but it involves leaked info Dendro's main stat seems to also be EM based on the character leaks But also an interesting thing I noticed, that fact added onto the officially revealed fact that certain enemies can absorb/change states when hitting them with certain elements, makes it kinda seem like the 'new Anemo' in a way, because Anemo also has EM as its main stat, and certain Anemo abilities can absorb other elements

[@uandmeko7034]

@@higaiwokeru SPOILER from what I can tell it's gonna be em because the artifact sets and dendro ressonance boost em

[@cedleonard123]

I think it's to synergize with the general "hydro healing" (helped by Hydro resonance) theme which works with a big HP pool to get full healing without overflowing. It may incentivize a more safe gameplay style which doesn't punish bad dodging skills as much. If you can't dodge that well, HP can absorb damage for you. You have some buffer to survive in more hits than you would without it. That Ayato design choice could be to encourage that and give some more damage.

[@rift1067]

Not to mention that dodging while in his E state is a significant dip in on-field DPS.

[@RedFlaim]

fixed the thumbnail explined -> explained usually I dont save my thumbnail files and I just export them so I'm glad I hadn't closed my editor yet lol

[@Alexmih749]

I can say, that hp scaling will become a usual thing for hydro charatcters as well as def scaling for geo and em for anemo. Its just my thought, that elements would be much more dedicated in a long-term perspective. Now we can't say what is the electro philosophy (because pyro is damage, anemo is cc, cryo is the crit rate and frozen statues) Edit: pls, stop repeating me about ER.

[@auyt8664]

electro's philosophy is basically energy,even electro resonance gives particles(1 every 5s and only electro particles),and most chars have either battery capabilities or insane energy issues.

[@Alexmih749]

@@auyt8664 but can you say this about razor and keqing? Lisa and beidou. I can't see any common thing for them. I think, only after releasing Raiden this element started to form its face

[@auyt8664]

@@Alexmih749 that's a good point,maybe after releasing the shogun mihoyo began shaping how they really want electro to be.

[@deulalune]

I’m thinking electro is mostly energy

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

Though where does that leave exceptions such as Zhongli (who uses HP scaling rather than DEF unlike most Geo characters)? Or is this the same case as other earlier characters that don't have as much direction.

[@eljae_kun]

This is actually all started with his beta kit before the rework. In his old kit, it's more encouraged to build HP. His old passive increase his burst damage by 3% of his HP so even if you build HP he still gonna be good but they realize how his kit not working very well. Let me explain. His elemental skill used to have long cooldown like 20s or so. That makes him so hard to gain energy and he works more like a support. Also, before his rework the illusion from his skill actually taunts and its hitpoint scales with his HP making him literally unkillable while using his skill but he still hard to use. So they decided to lower the skill CD to 12s and remove the taunt. For some reason they still keep the HP scaling for the damage. Also, his old passive was replaced by the new one which is the energy gaining when off-field from the extra damage he get for his burst based on HP. I think they change this because of how expensive his burst cost is.

[@prettyandrich]

his old illusion didn’t scale off his hp, it had always 1 hit point so it would break instantly regardless of what hit it, it just also happened to give full stacks when it burst.

[@mudkipmilk]

It's the same reason why Yae scales off EM, but nobody is going to build her around EM. It's just a small bonus whenever you roll "useless" substats on your artifacts.

[@joshuag8]

Till that 2.7 buff comes and the hp scaling goes up more

[@raihanrusli2720]

Yeah but ayato is a bit if not better because HP side scaling is already in his skill, not taking a passive slot like yae

[@Bullminator]

Yae electro will hit harder with new dendro reaction.

[@aruakabane2077]

Yeah, because unlike EM, its a lot easier to build it on him considering the flower artifact, it also provides him with a lot more survivability while in his Hydro NA state.

[@alphanightfury1416]

@@Bullminator i feel like dendro will be what hydro and electro needs

[@KudaGeatsune3821]

I discovered using him with ayaka Thoma & sayu makes for a Fierce Freeze comp Guess he wasn't kidding about family comes first even if he screws with Thoma

[@URMOMJOWUAKAOASG]

That sounds so anti synergetic tho 😭

[@KudaGeatsune3821]

@Maria Bianchi well I can layer Sayu&Ayato's bursts which proc's swirl & freeze off ayaka's burst and maybe vaporize too since I regularly cast Thoma's shield Sounds fine to me

[@ICNHH]

pyro on a freeze comp?

[@kenshiiro]

What is the point of thoma in this team lol, diona would be a 1000% better choice here unless you really like thoma, then don't let me stop you

[@KudaGeatsune3821]

@KenShiiro he can Shield and yes I like him I also don't play abyss because it amounts to a very basic gauntlet

[@ranchangu]

Additional HP scalings also provide a nice actual bonus from leveling from 80 to 90, which is notorious for providing incredibly little as far as DPS increases for most non-DEF/HP scalers. It's a little but, but it's still appreciated, I think.

[@chaosinfernoid9008]

I also like that about the HP Scaling. Leveling your Character feels much more rewarding, cauz you not only gaining Atk and the Crit Damage, but also Huge HP going upwards in Levels. To the point it's actually dumb to not do that.

[@lupinusaria2316]

My Primodial is gonna be nuts on him. And my artifacts are busted. Ok now I need ayato..... Chasm, you're my only hope for 1 ayato.

[@denmarc6938]

you still got 2 weeks, you got this man

[@avocado3-in-182]

If that doesn’t work, a credit card shall suffice.

[@yukiharu8059]

Making Hydro resonance Increase 15%/25%/30% of HP would make sense Hopefully Hoyo would change useless hydro resonance to much more useful like they did to Geo

[@chaosinfernoid9008]

I agree, but then playing just a Hydro Unit would be not rewarding. They feel so bad in comparism to even Geo and Anemo. Make them more rewarding and pu that Hydro on Top. Im on a lot of COPIUM though.

[@fukounaqiqi0780]

This aged well

[@harukireiss173]

Aged like a fine wine.

[@sb18wlc]

Honestly though, if hydro resonance was +HP% instead all hydro characters would get a boost instead of the current +incoming healing which doesn't even benefit Barbara and Kokomi.

[@khoufo]

Your prayer have been answered it will be changed in 3.0 to hp '/.

[@antijo1]

This Split scaling is also an indirect nerf to ATK buffs like Bennett. Those Buffs only affect the ~70% of Ayatos DMG that scales with ATK and not the ~30% that scales with HP.

[@auyt8664]

I'm sure that ayato DMG scales with ATK more than just 70%,those that do the math always recommend an attack sands,and just tell you to not get angry if you get hp substats,but you should never favor an artifact over another one just because it's better in terms of hp and worse in terms of crit and attack,if the damage really scaled 30% with hp it will be much more desired,from deferent ayato builds I tried it's more 15% with hp and 85% of attack.

[@antijo1]

@@auyt8664 I should have probably been more precise: For my specific Ayato (Black Sword, 4pc Glad, ATK Sands, 91.3% Crit Rate 196.5% Crit DMG, 21949 HP, 1816 ATK) the normal attacks in his E stance consist of 31.6% scaling with HP and 68.4% scaling with ATK. That will be different for other Ayatos but probably not by a lot.

[@FranciscoJG]

@@auyt8664 the ATK scaling is more than double of the HP scaling that way, why wouldn't ATK sands be always recommended? Unlike Raiden, the scalings don't multiply each other, so the better scaling will always be recommended over the other one (unless the difference was much closer like 45-55, so the better substats would win instead).

[@Impulse-wl1kj]

I honestly love your vids, keep working hard and you WILL receive that play button cause i noticed your like 17k away so premature congrats

[@_mako]

i like additional scaling like this and EM on yae miko. it makes otherwise dead stats slightly more tolerable. no, i am not snorting heavy doses of copium rn what are you talking about

[@leojustice3367]

The problem with Yae Miko is that EM isn't necessarily a dead stat like HP and that it's so weak that with the Widsith, the other two buffs are better. Plus the Widsith isn't even that great on her anyways since she doesn't snapshot. I feel like Ayato's scaling was better done than Yae's overall

[@canaldecasta]

Also takes room for an actual useful stat or perk

[@1DMapler18]

@@leojustice3367 it's great for her if you just use her for her burst

[@leojustice3367]

@@1DMapler18 Yae's passive only benefits her skill tho

[@silentKeys20]

You're actually not wrong at all. My Ayato uses the Jade Cutter, and has almost 30k HP just by how much HP% I rolled into his substats. His attack goes from 1600 while not active all the way up to almost 2k from JC's passive alone. Split scaling really helps you in building artifacts, but JC is the main reason why it makes even more sense to build HP for him.

[@wansper9297]

Here before he realised he made a typo in the thumbnail

[@yuzzo92]

Each element is seemingly tied to one stat, and Hydro is tied to HP. However, Ayato's HP scaling is kinda mediocre and not really worth investing in, unless you end up getting some small HP% boosts on the side.

[@Lowqualitygenshinplayer]

There's always exceptions

[@freddiet.rowlet525]

While it's quite possible that at some point there'll be a support character that increases the party's max HP, since the same already applies for Atk, Def, Crit Rate and EM, I think it would be more interesting if that was something the resonances did. Part of why Pyro and Cryo are so good for DPS characters is their resonances give free damage stats, if Hydro resonance gave HP% it could potentially be a lot more useful than healing bonus, especially since most hydro characters and most healers have HP scaling anyway.

[@raihanrusli2720]

At least the side HP scaling is already built in to his skill, unlike yae miko's EM side scaling that took a passive slot which mihoyo could just use to make better quality of life gameplay on yae miko

[@bonneil2506]

The way you talk about topics really is soothing, informative too.

[@pedrosilva-di4lg]

There’s also the possibility that dendro hydro reaction will give a temporarily max hp boost, since it’s actually fits the elements. Following the same train of thought the reaction between electro and dendro will give a boost in Em because Yae miko like Ayato has this out of nowhere scaling that doesn’t synergies with their kit. This theory would have further credibility if also Yelan and Shinobu have this type of scaling (susge) and thus it would be fitting if the last 4 new characters before the release of dendro have synergy with the new reactions...

[@flyingphoenix4098]

Something I'd like to add is that it looks like they're trying to make hydro element the "hp" element the same as they did with geo and defense, as hydro seems to reliably have hp scaling characters for almost every role now, to where HP becomes innately associated with the hydro element

[@nayu6121]

Thanks for explaining!

[@boiboi4581]

Love the content

[@altogrey9712]

For Hutaos Hp scaling as well, her base attack is disgustingly low, not even reaching 100 by lvl80, so getting hp% on artifacts and having the staff of homa is way better than any atk% equipments

[@drantino]

i am expecting atlest a 4 star sword and a artifact set that increases based on HP at one point or another since what kind of scaling we have already with different characters. as to how long will wait no idea, would be nice to see a 4 star of something along the lines of jade cutter HP scaling with a HP bonus stat

[@grandmashark6443]

It also could have something to do with upcoming dendro reactions that might boost hp (hydro + dendro). So that Ayato is viable with dendro characters. I think it's the same for yae having em scaling. Maybe dendro+electro gives em boost. also Yelan has hp scaling too i think and Kuki also has em scaling.

[@MADARA66613]

With Candace and hydro ressonance buffs, we get Mihoyo’s intention for Ayato’s passive

[@benoitsuy8121]

I feel like the purpose of this HP scaling was for people who, like me, had a Jade cutter in their inventory but NO ONE to use it on. So I'm pretty happy about it, seeing that is his second best option 5 star wise.

[@batool272]

i love ur vids

[@envytee9659]

Talking about possible future buffs, the new 3.0 Hydro Resonance just might add some dps to Ayato in certain teams.

[@ymuirr]

Knowing the resonance change after Sumeru it makes a lot more sense ;)

[@neilgondra7379]

In-terms of an element tied with that one particular stat, we already knew that Geo had a lot of DEF scaling characters, Ningguang and Zhongli are exception, and now we have Hydro characters that scales through HP for healing like Kokomi, Barbara and Xingqiu (yes his rainswords scales through his HP) but for Ayato's case being a HP scaling character for damage, maybe Hoyo thinks that its a little too much for Ayato that scales both stats for serving only damage without seperate functions on his kit examples like Xingqiu's rainswords: put more ATK=more damage, put more HP=more healing.

[@canaldecasta]

I just want Amber to trigger BB with Burst :'(

[@corpsenymph4644]

So I’ve been behind on Genshin news, boy golly I’m glad I’m farming for Kokomi

[@Erikai_]

I haven't gotten a good ATK sands from his domain yet but I did get a nice HP one that I slapped on him, and his DMG is about 8k average per hit (he has a 4 star crit DMG circlet I need to replace sadly)

[@zeekjones1]

Maybe HP buffs from some dendro character synergy, making HP scaling even more interesting? From what I've seen so far dendro interaction does DoTs and buffs/debuffs. If there is a temporary HP boost, the HP healers would get heal boosts as well, kinda like ho Benny boosts damages.

[@JosePaoloCruz]

I didn't pay much attention to the HP scaling part since it is a nice bonus damage modifier on top of the base damage multiplier. Plus, with the Sakura Shrimp Crackers, it boosts the damage a fair bit.

[@Andre_Lopes79]

I think hes scale with hp just because he's hydro. Mihoyo has recently assigning certain stats to certain elements. Like Electo is energy recharge and geo is defense. So the next ideia is that hydro is associated with hp,. Kokomi, Barbara and even Xingqiu(his healing) has some form of hp scaling and this is probably a trend that will go on and future hydro characters will likely have some form of hp scaling.(yelan)

[@Azatora]

Mona is similar. She has passive to convert her ER to hydro damage bonus. If you want to focus on her damage, it is better to build atk and crit on her and treat ER as bonus. Though the difference is most people use her as support

[@ayatoculus]

yeah ER is much more valuable on her since her ult is her biggest form of damage until c2 iirc.

[@averonisgaming9023]

back in beta, his kit was different which caused an identitiy crisis, his 4th passive originally made his ult scale with his hp(also his burst granted atkspd that applied to everyone but himself) and his skill passively had its cd lowered when other characters used normal attacks while he was off field. His c2 meanwhile used to give him energy while off field but was changed. I believe he was originally meant to be a subdps that you could stack hp on (like albedo but hydro and hp) but was changed later to what he is now

[@magejubes]

They have been doing this recently i think its a way of consolidating artifact substats, another example is EM rolls for yae miko it makes it raises the floor for damage without impacting the celing much

[@CJdoesntlikehandles]

4:59 much sooner than later, with a certain bow characters 4th constelation

[@jeremiahsmith916]

“The game doesn’t give him any natural ways to stack HP” - a small correction here: the game does, in the form of the artifact gacha. As Oprah would say - you get HP substats, and you get HP substats, everyone gets HP substats!

[@littleswansplaygrownd6817]

tf u talking about? Game is infested with flat def rolls

[@jeremiahsmith916]

@@littleswansplaygrownd6817 just your luck with RNG. I'm getting tons of HP rolls while my Itto would really appreciate the DEF ones.

[@lumsalo]

Seeing as every new hydro character scales of hp in some way, just like geo with defense, i think it's just because he's hydro, lol

[@JawnReal]

the HP scaling would just be the least, a bonus in cementing the damage output. Crit dmg and Crit rate comes first as usual

[@Gabrielghg3314]

Seeing this video now with sumero leaks, I think it was a bit planned for the upcoming change on 2 hydro characters bonus, it's changing from healing bonus to more HP% for the team. But still, I like it cause you can make him more tanky, mine has 24k HP and 1600Atk, I'm trying to get more attack and less HP, but he isn't bad at any means

[@Rakaan238]

In the beta his second passive actually gave his ULTI a Pretty decent HP scaling but they later on removed it for the ER passive because they would rather give him a almost useless passive to fixing his ER problems, than just giving him better particle Regen or you know, lowering the burst cost. The reason the ER passive is almost useless is because we decent er (i have him at 143%) by the time I'm done using my skill I'm well above the 40 er threshold. And you always want to burst and then use your skill so this ER passive is pretty much never being used. People also theorized that they removed the hp scaling because then the PJC would be way too good for him or even better than his signiture weapon, considering that even with just the HP scalings we have now it's his 2nd best

[@sakutaro3musik486]

so there will never be an HP scaling sword unit because of PJC? That´s stupid, they shouldn´t make character to sell weapons, just make enjoyable characters

[@bandi642]

this reminds me of albedo c2 that makes that you ult is kinda meh until u get that cons

[@yuuzelthyc9683]

Speaking of which I got hp% substat twice on hydro goblet and crit circlet I guess it's not too bad

[@johnk8936]

Maybe he is getting HP scaling event sword next year?

[@pitpat2928]

me crawling back here now that i have to build ayato bc i wished on his banner accidentally

[@jps1873]

Is only there to sell the constellation and a Primordial Jade Cutter rerun.

[@walipp]

I think another reason for Ayato to scale of HP is, that he is a Hydro user, like the Elements all have a stat they focus on (not every Charater but rather often) Anemo - Elemental Mastery Electro - Energy Recharge Geo - Defense Pyro - Atack Cryo - Critrate Hyro - Health

[@FreddyMustafah]

And i think that we must also consider the fact that they created a « geo set » with a %def in it , which can be imagine for the futur of hydro with %hp because hp seems to be the core stats in hydro (kokomi, xingqiu, barbara, ayato, yelan) just like def is the core stat of geo (albedo, ito, gorou, noelle)

[@AZZAMNO1]

my guess dendro reaction going to do with something that buff EM and Max HP. Or maybe Dendro Archon have support skill that buff your Max HP?

[@spyrothetimelord]

I was told in beta that his illusion used to be a taunt so it probably scaled off his hp? Maybe they were too lazy to remove this stat stuff and just adjusted it. (I wasn't in beta so idk if it was for sure a taunt or if it was, if it scaled off hp anyway.) Either way, I'm also thinking it's a nice help for tanking some dmg in his skill stance, as well as the idea the dead rolls won't be *as* dead since his primary dmg comes from there. But I also went for constellations so 😂

[@Qrowwknows]

HP is the new Atk Stat

[@wistrsw]

in Final Fantasy, we have bubble effect that increase max HP, when Kokomi was released, i hoped her Q is this "bubble effect"... so hu tao would be happy, but she just a hydro driver dan healer,

[@vonakakkola]

i probably one of the few players who like when a character split between more than one stat, if the build is obvious and there's a Bis for set, stat and weapon, building a character is not funny, just grind and be lucky, but if a character split between stats, set, and the best build depends on which role that character has in the team, means that me, as a player need to use my brain, my skill to understand how to build that character for my current team, and this means having fun the problem with Xinyan is NOT that she split between def and dps stats, the problem is that everyelse is too optimized, there are few cases when a player need to think about build rather than just "this character has this build, no need to use your brain"

[@mikhailbotnovik1594]

Ayato gave me hope for the bell

[@pitypotato1151]

Before i finish my hunch on it was so hp sub stats weren't so bad on him

[@Chieftain01]

Interesting thing. I got an Atk sub stat with 20 CV. and I have an HP substat with 37 CV (Crit value). my weapon is Jadecutter. the atk one has more crit rate and the HP one has more Crit damage. overall I do more damage by about 1k. over the atk sands.

[@beatbox2250]

I got nilou's sword. Will it benefit Ayato?

[@lazyfluff812]

i've heard rumors that yelan can raise your team's max HP for a while (without healing) maybe ayato will benefit from this ?

[@spiderninja_1]

That ability is Yelan’s C4. Useful, but I doubt a lot of people will be able to get that lol

[@kokonut7342]

Yelan’s own HP will also be increase based on how many elements there is on her team which in my opinion is pretty good.

[@2-laojustinekarl231]

A note from my friend, if the said scaling converts it into atk/elemental dmg it should be their main stat priority, like hutao, itto, and noelle. However if a certain character's skill/burst "only" scale with that stat then it also should be their main stat priority like kokomi xinyan and albedo. So in the case of yae miko and ayato their scaling is just added dmg something to fill up or mhy is just too lazy to remove/change it

[@rxxyglow241]

It makes sense since he’s hydro since every element has more than half of their characters scale off of the main focus of its elemental resonance

[@RavenousFallen]

Constellations are largely for a year down the road, if you're still playing a character you can win it on a rerun to make it stronger. It would only be expensive to try to get multiple constellations on every 5 star you come across.

[@bandi642]

to make good use of my jade cutter 😎

[@braddl9442]

I built him. Its best to focus on attack if you can and if your get and Hp sub stat on and artifact its not a dead stat. I dont feel so bad when I get an artifact with HP on him.

[@Zedrinbot]

oh hey someone else who calls the repeated self-referencing in skills 'proper name syndrome' :v

[@btcannon2274]

i think the best way to treat this is a bonus that isnt recommended to focus on but isnt negligible either. its a nice bonus that cant be exploited to become extremely op through certain builds, keeping ayato good, but not overpowered, and i honestly like it this way

[@kaliikyuu5034]

it makes sense now adding that extra damage coz they changed the resonance of hydro to 25% hp increase,, imagine thats half of ayato's c2 :DD

[@tiff1583]

Please write in surveys / give feedback in beta for Hydro Resonance to increase Max HP, because more than a few characters can benefit from that.

[@someoneidkwho860]

and the best part abt his kit is his looks

[@tsuwu5260]

The new Hydro resonance will make Ayato comp even better~

[@luiss428]

i hope they segue this into changing hydro resonance to buff HP% and SPECIFICALLY healing bonus because some characters actually scale off that (like kokomi). healing bonus is just as good as healing effectiveness except its an actual stat. same goes for electro resonance. i wish they changed it to add more ER% to the party because its achieves the same end effect of the current electro resonance (more ER% would be the same effect as electro particle generation) while providing a stat lots of units use. not only that, but they match the element theme. hydro is more of reaction, health, and healing, electro focuses on energy.

[@najmaht.a.1314]

hyv rly boxing each element in it's own thing. Hydro = Healing Geo = Shield Pyro = Damage/DPS Cryo = Freeze Anemo = CC Electro = Reactions

[@PopstarCharles]

I really love split scalings just because they’re 4fun sometimes. One of my favorite characters, Miss Fortune, actually has split scalings even though it’s not really optimal. Still fun!

[@goofballjim6167]

I dislike split dmg scales. More stuff i have to worry about just to get more damage out of a character.

[@raihanrusli2720]

Nah, ayato and yae are more like side scaling rather than split scaling. True split scaling is actually a character design disaster, which ended up like xinyan

[@AssaultRider555]

Because he's a Kokomi that doesn't heal but can crit.

[@haveaniceday7080]

Not me looking this up after i tried leveling a good artifact but i got a 21% hp bonus

[@tapocollino]

I think this is more my brain trying to rationalize the situation than what was intended, but Ayato's skill encourages you to stand still (the super armor reinforces that) to attack, so maybe they wanted some HP to be built so you can stay alive.

[@parttimelazy4593]

Finally, something to do with all of those HP substat artifact.

[@gangstaparadise954]

After 3.0 this HP scaling is extremely good

[@Michplay]

In my opinion, it’s only to make the primordial jade cutter useful on him

[@rilakkuma1640]

What's the song at kit summary?? 0:38

[@RedFlaim]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5fQoWyQacyUnNU&ab_channel=obs_pos not sure what the actual name is

[@MrKappaKappaPsi]

I think they are making hydro characters scale off hp in the future and will change hydro res to increase max hp and provide damage boost. Same with geo scaling of def.

[@emopeterparker7]

the way ayato's damage is withheld within constellations sounds better than yoimiya's, speaking as a current c0 yoimiya main player. c0 yoimiya is still competitive and i much prefer using her over hu tao, but y'know, there's a lot of design flaws with c0 yoimiya and her c1 and esp c2 really help her in ways ayato's c1 and c2 do too.

[@shiesty644]

The hp says it scales with the amount of namisen stacks so it's hp buff is almost as consistent as hutaos in a way both my elm for ayato and hu tao are 7 and it's almost the same scaling.

[@Azyne]

I love how now healers scale off ATK and dps scale off HP and DEF

[@RobotAnimals]

I DONT NEED HIM I DONT NEED HIM I DONT NEED HIM AHHHHHHHHHHH HIS TRIAL RUN IS SO FUN AND IF I GET HIM I CAN COMPLETE THE KAMISATO ESTATE SET I AM ON 82 PITY GUARANTEED BUT HE HAS BEEN DODGING I CAN MOST DEFINITELY GET HIM IF I TRIED BUT IF HE’S BEEN DODGING MY WISHES MAYBE IM MEANT TO GET YELAN INSTEAD RIGHT??

[@PhilipWester]

I know this is late, but the reason why his E scales partially off of HP and why his C2 gives +50% HP is because in the beta, he originally scaled ENTIRELY off of HP.

[@LiveAsDiva]

I ditched the whole slashing thinggy... I gave him Emblem 4pcs and energy recharge sand... And just wreak havoc with his burst... Truly fixed his energy problem

[@cethgarvez1454]

From Thoma, to Ayato, to Yae, to Kuki, HYV already planned out the changes they would make in 3.0 when they made these characters, including the change to Hydro resonance. 😅

[@realbac7682]

Any hp based character in polearm or sword will mostly benefit from homa or jade cutter. They keep increasing the value of those universal weapon. Same thing if they made weapons like those for other weapon category. They might not be the best weapon but certainly top substitutes.

[@elknolasshrineofraja3966]

🌸🌹To be earnest “I do not mind if in the slightest and actually adore characters that’s have unorthodox scaling”!🌹🌸

[@RyzawaVT]

there is a food item that increases max hp as well