Why Baldur's Gate 3 is better than Spider-Man 2...

[@BetaComboZ]

Thank you for those who have corrected me. I know that his name is "Newbon" and not "Newborne" now. I always appreciate the call out!

[@ragtag7x]

People are so scared to try new things. Baldurs Gate 3 is so masterfully done that I feel like so many people are in denial. It's so strange.

[@BetaComboZ]

I wish more people would play it before making assumptions. I never played Alan Wake 2, but I wasn't mad it won Best Narrative.

[@beethovenlivesupstairs4182]

BG3 is overrated. It doesn't do anything new and there are better CRPGs out there. I don't know anything about spiderman. I'm not playstation guy.

[@BetaComboZ]

@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 That's a hot take.

[@Asphyx12]

@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 Could you please list some better CRPGs than BG3 then?

[@TheeChalk]

@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 Can you suggest some then, I'm really interested as BG3 was my first. So I'd like to know what to try.

[@SpoopsAHoy]

While Baldur's Gate III winning GOTY was a great achievement, we also must acknowledge the absolutely terrible production of the show, many award winners we're given a pitiful amount of time to accept said awards and give their speech. Ads got far too much space, guests showcasing upcoming releases and other promotions were like 3x that of the actual award speeches. Larian Studios barely had the time to remind the audience of the unfortunate loss of staff and mourn. Their Cinematic Director passed away 2 months ago before this event and little thought was given from the audience or showrunners. (There are pics of signs being shown to "Wrap it Up"; absolutely disgusting). They never got to announce their game had come to Xbox either.

[@BetaComboZ]

Don't even get me started on that! That's an entire video on its own.

[@Jd-zl7mn]

​@@BetaComboZ Imma get you started on that. Why award shows slowly decay over time to suck the d of corporate money.

[@BetaComboZ]

@@Jd-zl7mn oh boy. That'll be a documentary size video haha

[@R3TR0J4N]

oh man im thankful i dint risk my sleep and instead waited for an article to list all the trailers and winners. since most categories were sidelined. "Trailers Awards" innit

[@samf.s.7731]

Literally found out through YT that BG was released for Xbox. Yeah this year the speeches were cut really short.

[@AlliSinned]

Calling the Awards rigged for awarding a game made by a studio thousands of times smaller and with thousands of times less money than Sony is pure bias. Most of those creators don't know a thing about Baldur's Gate other than it beat their favorite game in an awards show, so it's unfair to make claims against it while not understanding what it did to earn those awards.

[@BetaComboZ]

What they did was definitely incredible for the resources they had. To be fair, I do agree that being an independent company makes decisions easier.

[@sunmoonstar9125]

only zelda losers and spider-losers think game awards is rigged

[@mermidion7552]

Well as much as BG3 deserves the win, i wouldnt go as far as to say that the awards are not rigged. There is no other Explanation how The Last of us 2 could have won in the past, as that game was hated by half of the existing gaming community for its shit narrative and overall story.

[@AlliSinned]

@@mermidion7552 It’s because the Game Awards is weighted way less towards fan votes and way more towards their panel of judges, many of whom are game critics. We know game critics loved TLOU2 just by looking at Metacritic. Either way, that still has no bearing on BG3 winning. BG3 won the fan vote (player’s choice award), and Sony has much more money to potentially “rig” the vote than Larian does.

[@AlliSinned]

@@BetaComboZ Yeah, I more meant that if there was behind-the-scenes rigging, it would be done by Sony because they have the money to pay off the Awards committee lol

[@JustAniNicole]

Larian basically proved there’s no excuse to deliver an unfinished game and then charge your player-base $10-$100 for DLC or expansions that aren’t MMOs like FF14 because all you’re doing is double dipping your consumers for the other 40% of the game that was unfinished at ship date.

[@BetaComboZ]

Couldn't agree more!

[@LoudAngryJerk]

they did... and they didn't. They showed what's possible when youre community funded and given the appropriate time to make a game good. They didn't show why that was better than what the other producers currently do, like at all. For a fraction of the investment, those companies can fund something that does less than half of the innovation, and make exponentially more money. Did BG3 sell well? Sure. But it needed to to make them any money at all, which is why its great that it sold exceptionally well. Whereas activision can churn out new maps (and sometimes old maps with updated textures, *cough* modern warfare 3 *cough* for the same game every year, and sell fewer copies, and still make more money.

[@jo0rd73]

@@LoudAngryJerkYou’re completely right and I wish you weren’t. I don’t think BG3 is gonna have a large impact on how games are handled going forward because corporations already know they have player bases conditioned to eat up every bit of of slop that is thrown at them every year or few years.

[@Gamfluent]

Elden ring and then BG3 I’m glad we’re getting good games

[@samf.s.7731]

It's because they had it on early access. The thing the internet was literally crying about when Cyberpunk came out. "Make us beta test it for you". What do you know, the internet was right. 😂

[@Mariofan..]

If I’m to give my 2 cents here: I was rooting for totk, I thought it was the goat for Zelda and really fun and inventive. Then bs3 won and I was little sad but I asked myself “is it really that good?” So I played it and yes it was and I have a large respect for the game now. I hope more people can be less close minded and give it a try before complaining

[@BetaComboZ]

I hear from quite a few people that ToTK was just BoTW 2.0. It definitely had MASSIVE hype on release. It was all over my feeds.

[@SushiGhost97]

​@@BetaComboZyeah, it's very much botw 2.0 in many ways. In saying that, it is a good game, a great game even! But, just like BOTW it's not for me, I put maybe 50hrs into it, only doing 2 of the 4 main dungeons, and I haven't touched the game since release. It's just not what I like about Zelda sadly. Tho, I imagine many found it to be exactly what they were hoping for

[@AnimatedTerror]

@@SushiGhost97yeah I’m super disappointed to hear that Nintendo recently announced that the old linear game design of classic Zelda is now “a thing of the past” so either they’ll double back on that or, more likely, we’re gonna get a few more open world games in the vein of botw. So… that sucks…

[@SushiGhost97]

@@AnimatedTerror I really just want something closer to a Link Between Worlds again. That game managed to find tjr perfect balance of player freedom without sacrificing the quality of dungeons or the total removal of gadgets. It's really hard to care for the master sword when I know it can break after 3 minutes of combat

[@AnimatedTerror]

@@SushiGhost97 See I want twighlight princess again. a darker story with a cool asthetic with some really well designed dungeons. I stand by that TP had the best designed 3D dungeons in the series. The goron mines, arbiters grounds, snowpeak ruins, temple of time. oh man temple of time may be my favorite in hindsight. it's a two part temple where part one is getting to the top of the tower solving puzzles and making your way up, then a darknut fight which again I think TP has the best version of them. but then the second part is going down the temple with the statue and just destroying all the contraptions and mechanisms that halted you on the way up. so good. so so freaking good. make another linear game Nintendo!

[@maxjerry8973]

Whenever I see someone in a comment section about the game awards saying shit like “why has a trash game won GOTY” it’s so frustrating because you just KNOW they’re ignorant. They just refuse to try it

[@BetaComboZ]

I had the same thought when it came out. "Idk man this looks boring"...played it... I'll never say that again.

[@theduck2970]

Thing is, it's okay to say that a game is not your type. But noooo, they can't even do that. A lot of SM2 fans refuse to acknowledge that maybe there are reasons why people love BG3.

[@Shake0615]

Same experience and I am so damn happy I went out of my comfort zone. That was the best $70 I’ve ever spent

[@0NIONBUBS]

Baldur's Gate 3 Devs: Makes one of the best games of all time Every other game dev: .... You are making us look bad...

[@BetaComboZ]

Other devs: Please stop. They won't buy our $70 dlc game 😢

[@niceuser2face611]

I don’t want to be that guy, cause nobody likes that guys, BUT. $70+ games aren’t games made by “other devs” they are tripleA. Saying “other devs” make bad games worth too much gives a middle finger to all indie and small dev teams. I’m not going to start listing game names. Sorry for being a *that guy* but I felt it had to be said.

[@samf.s.7731]

It's polished because they did the thing everyone was screaming devs should do when Cyberpunk was released: Provide early access and get feedback, because no matter how good your team is and how thorough your beta testers are, they wont get to replocate what it's like when it's out and millions of peoole will have gotten their hands on it. Devs need real players to test out their game before release, and I mean in it's natural habitat, their gaming basement/room/setup 😂

[@OzyPepper]

its more than player feedback tho. that is a big part of it dont get me wrong, but another massive part of bg3's success is that there was no producer or investors breathing down larian's neck. the game was entirely made by fans of the genre with feedback by fans of the genre. other game devs simply dont have the freedom to make their games the way larian was able to. thats something it think alot of games dont realize when other game devs say stuff like "we dont have the reoruces that larian did" bg3 had a budget of 100 million dollars with no one but the players to tell larian what to do. anyway bg3 good, spiderman 2 good, bg3 (and everyother game nominated) better

[@Jeannetalks]

​​@@OzyPepperthat's so important to say, thank you! Game developers are gamers too and trust me as someone who has helped develop games we want nothing more than for people to enjoy what we create. The problem are the producers, the ones who lead the whole project. They give the go of when a game needs to be released. *Needs.* While game devs know best of where a game needs fixing and finishing touches. The developers under Larian Studios were given the opportunities to add content based on player feedback. There are plenty devs under AAA studios that would love to do that too but don't get the chance to (and let's be real, also don't get paid enough as is)

[@zimmy4868]

That 145 hour number for 100% completion in BG3 seems very off to me. I’m 165 hours in and I know I missed a ton of side quests.

[@BetaComboZ]

I've definitely clocked more than that for a single play through

[@heartlessface]

2 times finish act2 + starting act3 = more than 600 hrs of mine. 😂

[@nuanil]

I think they forgot a digit.

[@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow]

right? that's act one lol

[@R3TR0J4N]

w/ the player agency of dynamic narrative and reactivity no doubt i did miss a lot, and thats regards save scumming my way

[@ParallaxHearts]

I hadn't played BG3 and knew nothing about it when I watched these awards. I remember calling it "the Baldur's Gate Awards" and remember Neil's speech being the one that didn't make me cringe. Picked up the game last month and I GET IT NOW. The last game that made me feel like this was Chrono Cross, like... 17 years ago?

[@BetaComboZ]

I LOVE to hear this! Being open minded to games has brought me so much joy and I'm glad it did for you too!

[@Sieghiro]

The funniest thing are the people calling it rigged. Are these people saying Larian has more money than goddamn Playstation or Nintendo? Delusional. If anything, that Epic didn't force Alan Wake 2 goty with their infinite Fortnite money speaks for itself.

[@sadsworth4605]

Idk how tbh they litreally have 62791001065482916910k money

[@sweesbees]

neil's dialogue is actually closer to 10 hours. 10. not to mention he was responsible for a lot of the mocap. not just for astarion, but for others as well. he even did mocap for the animations the characters can do when you pick their class on the creation screen. it's wild.

[@ragnarokpuppy398]

Spiderman 2 met expectations for what 1 gave. Baldurs gate 3, however, went above and beyond the expectations and was loaded with passion for the tabletop game it was based on. Game of the year should always be given to pure passion projects

[@igotzelda]

7:08 "do you want to collect a thousand barrels and blow them up all at the same time to make your gpu into a homeade bomb? you can do that, you can play the game how YOU want to play it" 😂i approve this message

[@BetaComboZ]

Barrels or Owlbear from the top rope. Thats the only way I want to play.

[@celestebigaignon6054]

Hoarded smoke powder barrels after people recommended it for Raphael. Also learned how to kill people with bard magic, and that I can beat a lot of battles just by building barrel walls 😂

[@CaptainRhodor]

"I came completely prepared and nothing happened the way I expected it to." That's BG3 in a nutshell XD BG3's combat is the embodiment of Mike Tyson's famous quote: "Everyone's got a plan until you punch 'em in the face." I can't count the number of times that I've went in with an intricately planned and set up strategy, only to miss one or two key attacks or have a character get debuffed with Fear or knocked out of position and then have to just improvise the rest of the fight XD

[@BetaComboZ]

So many things can go wrong!

[@CaptainRhodor]

@@BetaComboZ "Alright everyone is in position so when my turn rolls aro- Oh my god Lae'zel just got pushed into the abyss... FUCK IT! Eat Arrow of Many Targets you dickheads!"

[@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621]

Upon contact with the enemy, The first thing that dies is the plan.

[@Tcrumpen]

Thats dnd in a nutshell

[@AmySorrellMusic]

This was genuinely entertaining. You mentioned you hadn't played a Larian game before, Divinity Original Sin 2 is quite fun, I really like the first one too, even as old as it is. I recommend them highly and I am so looking forward to DOS 3 seeing now how far they have come in just those three games. The Divinity Original Sin games were crowdfunded and made with love. I found myself falling into the BG3 gameplay very easily due to having played DOS 1and 2 already, so I imagine it would work the other way too.

[@BetaComboZ]

After playing BG3 I've HEAVILY considered it. It's on my list for sure.

[@ravenmasters2467]

i played their real-time action RPG 'Divinity II' and thoroughy enjoyed it. Bought DOSII based on that to play Co-op with someone very close to me. we had barely started to play and then something happened and i couldnt continue the game because of the close association the game had with that even though i was loving it. sorry so cryptic but its personal. The point is i missed out and i'm so glad BG3 came out and i got another chance almost. Great studio and its so good to see something less mainstream getting all this recognition.

[@zotaninoron3548]

Lets be honest. He's a bear regardless of whether he is wildshaped or not.

[@BetaComboZ]

Sshhhh don't say it so loud.

[@nuanil]

There's lots of us bears out here.....

[@TheRealZiktus]

The fact that anyone can get upset about any of the actors winning the award for Best Performance is just crazy to me. Every single one of them delivered a fantastic performance in their respective games. While I'm happy Neil Newbon won the award, any of the nominees for Best Perfomance winning would have been a deserved win.

[@sofaking1627]

Prototype 2 never stood a chance

[@BetaComboZ]

You're getting the pin of shame.

[@sofaking1627]

Anyone who gets it has back problems now.@@BetaComboZ

[@curiouswind9196]

Im so glad someone finally said it

[@mortalphoenix7168]

I was looking for this comment everywhere

[@sadsworth4605]

Tuxking epic and hilarious protptype 2 would be better than sploogeman due to gore and murder

[@leviuzumaki3903]

My opinion on this argument as a person that loves both Spider-Man 2 and bg3, bg3 is clearly the better game to put it into perspective. I beat Spider-Man 2 once, one time and 100 percent completed it and probably will maybe play it again once or twice for fun here and there. With bg3 I’ve already played it fully 3 or 4 times and there’s still things that I’m just now discovering you can do and new dialogues I found out you can do! I haven’t even done arguably the coolest fight in the game against Raphael yet, and am still discovering cool and unique things. In my personal opinion bg3 definitely deserves game of the year because it genuinely is the best game of the year no question in my mind, however I will say one thing, I think yuri deserved best voice actor award, however Neil newborn did such an incredible and amazing job as Astarian and nailed every line he provided and produced even when you do something as crazy as kick him in the balls. So that award for me is so close that it’s a toss up and I think they both deserve it! 😌

[@BetaComboZ]

That's fair! I think the fact that I'll only play Spider-Man 2 once ever and BG3 has already taken so many hours of time from should speak for something.

[@mrinanis]

Spiderman 2 is OK Baldur's Gate 3 is a fucking masterpiece

[@BetaComboZ]

Only those who've played know the difference.

[@hanzohasashi9439]

"I came completely prepared, and nothing went my way" never felt more seen that when i heard this statement 😅. Even in actual DnD this shit happens and makes you sweat bullets lol.

[@XenophonQ]

Bringing out the cat after defending the Halsin scene is pretty wild 😂

[@BetaComboZ]

HEY!! My cat isn't a Druid!!

[@XenoVarzek]

​​@@BetaComboZ how can you be sure? Does your cat take long rests?

[@BetaComboZ]

@@XenoVarzek ...interesting

[@XenophonQ]

@@XenoVarzek another Xeno!

[@XenoVarzek]

@@XenophonQ indeed :D

[@beccangavin]

I’m so confused about why people thought Spider Man was a top contender for GOTY. I thought there were a bunch nominated but the real contenders were BG3 and TOTK. I didn’t hear anyone talking about Spider Man II so the uproar just took me by surprise. I haven’t played it. Honestly, I didn’t know it existed. I’m sure it was a good game, but I just had no familiarity with it. For me personally, I loved DOSII and was so psyched for BG3 I checked Reddit nightly between August and December to see when they would give us BG3 on Xbox so I could finally play it. Larian just makes good games and I’m glad they’re getting all this recognition.

[@BeanSandwiches]

Even Alan wake 2 had a better shot imo considering its aesthetic and performance in the other awards

[@BetaComboZ]

And it's well deserved!

[@AmySorrellMusic]

Agreed. Love the DOS games.

[@jo0rd73]

DOS is something I plan on finally trying next….after maybe another 5+ playthroughs of BG3.

[@gianghuynh9570]

It’s the issue of people staying in their bubbles and have extreme level of tribalism and the needs for drama to fuel their social media career. Every winner of this year’s award is basically the devs that are the best at that category, and if you play a broader selection of games it’s easy to accept that. The Spiderman games were good in the PS4-PS5 era and they created a fan base but that doesn’t make them automatically the best. Like Larian specialises in RPG and their two big projects have won in that category consistently. Or it is just the fact that you can’t beat Square Enix in the soundtrack category in the year they release one of their major lPs, because they have a storied history of doing so. It’s a simple fact, just because you like something doesn’t mean it’s the best in everything.

[@RyanJamesOfficial]

Spiderman 2 was an awesome action game. Really enjoyed it. Streamlined experience. BG3 is a masterpiece RPG and arguably the best RPG of all time. It was made by a small studio and completely embarrassed many triple A companies.

[@NaiveAgenda]

Any streamer who reacted negatively to BG3 winning outed themselves as low IQ. In terms of quality and execution, it's not even remotely close.

[@ravenmasters2467]

i'm old-school. Believe it or not i have been gaming over 40 years. ive seen gaming evolve so much and it started with a huge upwards trajectory but its been on a downward spiral the last 10-15 or w/e years. perhaps this will illustrate my point: i remember in vanilla wow there was a 40v40 pvp battleground, Alterac Valley iirc. the battles could last up to 12 hours! the tide could turn back and forth many times. you could be so close to losing and just manage to push them back at the last min and then counter-attack with your own offensive. that could happen multiple times. you could play 3-4 hrs whatever and it was late, you were tired, you had to log off for bed. you could sleep 8 hours, log back on, and the same battle was still raging which you could/would rejoin. no rewards, no pvp points system. ppl were there just because they wanted to be. they were having a great time. and the sense of accomplishment when/if your side won was unbelievable. then they 'improved' it all. they streamlined it. each battle max 30 mins. they added reward points for pvp participation which could be used to buy pvp gear (which could then be used to gank pve players out in the game world). as soon as one side was close to losing everyone in chat was like 'just let them win. stop fighting them. lets get the next one started'. half the players immediately gave up so there was no chance at all. half the ppl didnt even want to be there they were just farming the points. yes there were (many) more ppl participating but none of them were having anywhere near as much fun. that to me is the state of modern gaming, and BG3 is a blast from the past. Its Alterac Valley vanilla style. Its old-school but with all the added benefits of state-of-the-art technology.

[@josiahsuarez]

BG3 is truly impressive. brings a tear to my eyes ಠ⌣ಠ

[@BetaComboZ]

That game and God of War: Ragnarok are just....something else entirely.

[@christopherr.561]

Love BG3. Will play it many times over the coming years. I truly believe it deserves game if the year. No idea if Spider-Man did or didn’t. Hope fans of both have many hours of enjoyment with their respective games.

[@R_E_X_O_]

I preordered bg3 before it came out and i recently bought spiderman 2. I loved them both. The web swinging especially in spiderman 2 is just so fun. But it was never a doubt in my mind that bg3 was the goty. Spiderman 2 had some flaws particularly with the 2nd half of the story feeling pretty rushed. Bg3 is just a masterpiece plain and simple.

[@BetaComboZ]

Plain.And.Simple.

[@974OMG]

It's ignorant to say this, yes I've followed the game about a year before it came out, I pre-ordered and played day one. Act 3 wasn't polished and it really was a let down compared to the first 2 acts story and quest wise. There are definitely things that could have been better and I think we should point these things out so Larian can do an even more amazing job with maybe Divinity 3. Is it GOTY? Absolutely it is, it was amazing, but as fans we need to be able to objectively look at the flaws regardless of how we feel about the game

[@R_E_X_O_]

@@974OMG My only issue with Act 3 were the unresolved story lines for Karlach specifically. I didn't have an issue with anything else. And it's not ignorant to call a masterpiece. The definition is "In modern use, a masterpiece is a creation in any area of the arts that has been given much critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill, profundity, or workmanship." BG3 absolutely fits that criteria.

[@wumbowyatt2300]

Honestly i thought the first 2 acts were at a good pace and act 3 was just slightly rushed. But its sonys fault for act 3 being a little rushed tho.

[@jo0rd73]

BG3 was the first type of game in this genre I’ve played and I am just blown away. I cannot believe I paid once for this amount of content and replayability. It’s easily the best game I’ve ever played and I have only finished it once, on my second of several already planned out playthroughs with character ideas to play around with!

[@BetaComboZ]

This game is the DEFINITION of getting what you pay for.

[@ravenmasters2467]

i'm old-school. Believe it or not i have been gaming over 40 years. ive seen gaming evolve so much and it started with a huge upwards trajectory but its been on a downward spiral the last 10-15 or w/e years. perhaps this will illustrate my point: i remember in vanilla wow there was a 40v40 pvp battleground, Alterac Valley iirc. the battles could last up to 12 hours! the tide could turn back and forth many times. you could be so close to losing and just manage to push them back at the last min and then counter-attack with your own offensive. that could happen multiple times. you could play 3-4 hrs whatever and it was late, you were tired, you had to log off for bed. you could sleep 8 hours, log back on, and the same battle was still raging which you could/would rejoin. no rewards, no pvp points system. ppl were there just because they wanted to be. they were having a great time. and the sense of accomplishment when/if your side won was unbelievable. then they 'improved' it all. they streamlined it. each battle max 30 mins. they added reward points for pvp participation which could be used to buy pvp gear (which could then be used to gank pve players out in the game world). as soon as one side was close to losing everyone in chat was like 'just let them win. stop fighting them. lets get the next one started'. half the players immediately gave up so there was no chance at all. half the ppl didnt even want to be there they were just farming the points. yes there were (many) more ppl participating but none of them were having anywhere near as much fun. that to me is the state of modern gaming, and BG3 is a blast from the past. Its Alterac Valley vanilla style. Its old-school but with all the added benefits of state-of-the-art technology.

[@dalehammers4425]

Spiderman 2 wasnt even in the race... if BG3 didnt exist, TOTK or Alan Wake were taking it... Spiderman never had a chance in hell either way.

[@Loz_Lazlo]

At first I thought I would never like bg3 and was meat riding spiderman during the game awards. After playing it, I fully understand why it won a lot of awards. It was similar to my experience with rdr2, didn't like it at first then loved it from start to end

[@beefish00]

Character arc

[@natashaperreault9425]

My first play through was over 200hrs. No regrets.

[@curiouswind9196]

BG3 absolutely deserved the GOTY award what they didnt is the amount of time Larian was given for that speech, they deserved more

[@What_do_I_Think]

Some People here at YT are still telling the story of the "bad Act 3" ("cut content", "it is a mess", "unfinished", ...). *All BS. Everything just denial and envy.* I am already playing my third run in BG3 and I did not find any real game breaking things in any of the acts. There are some rough edges, yes and some small things, that could be done better (and likely will be fixed), but they are overshadowed by far by the overwhelming quality of the content in any of the acts. Any of the acts on its own is better as most of the other recent AAA games. Of course, turn based is not everybody's thing, but honest people still admit that BG3 is good -- if you cant, you are just living in your own opinion bubble and do not want to leave it.

[@lil_jay7926]

I only played the 2-hour trial cause I have Ps plus, but it is $70, and if it’s worth it, I’ll buy it, even though I’m trying to get God Of War Ragnarök so I can play the DLC, and I’m trying to spend $140 so still thinking

[@What_do_I_Think]

@@lil_jay7926 I was addressing other people, that tell BS about the game -- I guess there are different reasons. But I was not talking about people that did not buy the game (yet). I know it is not for everybody and there are so many reasons not to buy the game. I was just talking about negative comments.

[@BoltofMystery]

From someone who played BG3 and SM2, even though I love SM2, baldurs gate gives you so much freedom and your choices actually matter.

[@BetaComboZ]

Absolutely. You can play it over and over and it's always different.

[@emeraldsky2823]

How are spider-man fans gonna complain about the story, gameplay, etc, then argue that it’s the best thing since sliced bread. I played both and 100% spider-man 2, I FRIGGEN LOVE SPIDER-MAN 2 AND ITS STORY AND EVEN THE EVOLVED MILES SUIT, but compared to BG3 which was my first introduction to Baldur’s gate, it just didn’t compare, it was too good and deserved all the rewards they won. Hell I personally thought it was gonna be between TOTK and BG3

[@thesenate7710]

No one in their right mind who’s actually played baldues gate and spider man can truly say spider man is better than

[@ForbiddenSlurp]

As someone who grew up on BG1&2 i was ready with my credit card the day early access was available Ive never felt more HEARD as a member of a games community. Getting to watch BG3 grow and then surpass any and all expectations has been so effing lovely to just sit back and watch. Also yeah, Neil deserved every ounce of praise. Even beyond how well he preformed, soo so so many people feel such a deep connection to his character. and im not even talking his stan army, but people whove experienced trauma. It shows just how far good deep character writing just really shines in a game setting, and how important it can be to the people who consume it.

[@samf.s.7731]

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you have to pay for early access? Edit: Ah crap I looked it up and for the time it was full price. It's of course more expensive now paying for AAA games, the price went up by 10 USD I suppose getting to play it ahead of time is the justification for the price, because I know many people who would pay full price to get their hands on a specific AAA title years before release.

[@ForbiddenSlurp]

@@samf.s.7731 larian also has a lot of good faith from their community for their DOS series. Fans knew they were good for their word. They also broke their bank just getting the licence so they did need it. Literally funded by their fanbase, and by golly we got every penny back in spades

[@rubyy.7374]

Nothing against the other VAs, it’s just that Neil’s delivery positively jumps out at you, in a good way. Jazmine from the Boondocks and Penny from Bigtop Burger are other such vocal deliveries that just sound so… Genuine.

[@RampidWarthogStudios]

I got BG3 a week ago. I’m only a few hours in and it is so obvious why it won. My personal choice was Alan wake 2. But after buying BG…. Yeah…. It was a landslide victory.

[@simplysage3562]

For starters im not spamming the same 6 button and holding L1 just to spend half the game watching Mj Miles and Parker do things ive seen them do in 16 movies(featuring spiderman/venom) and multiple animated series😂😂😂😂

[@firefistgaming117]

Excellent video, absolutely agree! BG3 is one of the best games ive played my entire life (Been playing games since late 90s) I also Greatly enjoyed Spiderman 2 but...Lets be honest, even if BG3 didnt come out this year... Spider-Man 2 wouldn't of won GOTY, Alan Wake 2 or Zelda would of won it (yes AW2 is so damn good i think it had a solid chance against Zelda). Heck RE4 Remake was a vastly better game then Spidey 2 even, Spidey 2 was a Good game surrounded by absolute Monstrously Great Games in the nominee line up.

[@BetaComboZ]

Sadly, I think Spider-Man finally having Venom again during a year like this is unfortunate for them. It's still the same formula as the other games so it doesn't shine like the rest. Good game, but yes...ToTK would have probably beaten it. (I haven't played Alan Wake 2 yet)

[@firefistgaming117]

@@BetaComboZ yea Venom was definitely the best part of Spidey 2 but the game was still to "safe" as a sequel. AW2 is Absolutely worth checking out, if not for BG3 personally it would prob be my GOTY, that or RE4R but I am a sucker for that Genre lol. AW2 is much more impactful if ya have played AW1 and Control first however, Still great without those experiences but it certainly enhances it if you've played them.

[@hanzomain8302]

Facts

[@cathulhubeans]

I personally don’t want to romance Halsin (at the moment) but he DOES pass the Harkness test

[@BetaComboZ]

You better watch out or you'll get the pin of shame next time.

[@BleachBasket108]

But who doesn't want a big strong elf daddy?

[@GRiznitDShiznit]

Baldur’s 3 isn’t just GOTY, people need to understand that it’s top 5 best games of all time, if not #1. Baldur’s Gate 3 set the new bar in gaming in general. You can’t say that about any other game the last 10 years except Witcher 3, let alone GOTY. This year was one of the best year for games and BG3 still absolutely blew all competition out of the water now and for years to come. It’ll likely be 10-20 years until a game beats BG3. BG3 was that good. 30hrs in I was like yo this without a doubt obviously goty this game too good…

[@BetaComboZ]

I completely agree. BG3 is a once in a lifetime game. I doubt we will see something like this for a really long time.

[@christhechilled]

I never played Spider Man 2 but base off all the gamplays and playthroughs on social media, it’s not so different between Spider Man 1 and Miles Morales

[@BetaComboZ]

It's better than those games, but more like those 2 in 1.

[@Dominus4776]

I've never liked the turn based style except for old final fantasy and pokemon. But bg3 made me fall in love it. It's my choice for best game so far, in all of gaming history.

[@Goblin1986p]

makes sense though, BG3 really isnt traditional "turn based". Most people who tend to dislike turn based games think of final fantasy or pokemon...with a lineup and no movement options just....take a turn, choose attack....next. Bg3 turn based involves so much more than just take a turn pick an attack, move on.

[@silverblade357]

"SM2 recycled like 85% of the previous two games, watered down several mechanics, gave way too much time to divisive characters, and the plot was a retread of a storyline that has been done way better in other mediums... how could it not win GOTY?!" -Sony Ponies

[@crazyscotsman9327]

I've restarted and replayed BG3 3 times and I haven't even finished the campaign yet! I haven't finished the game and spent 140 hours into it.

[@BetaComboZ]

That should go to show just how amazing it really is.

[@AmySorrellMusic]

Same lol and I am loving it.

[@crazyscotsman9327]

@@AmySorrellMusic Shit I am doing another playthrough already because I was like. Wait. Super Paladin!

[@tbeth]

11:08 This edit almost made me spit my gum out laughing 😂 My first character was a druid and I lost count of how many times owlbear'd enemies to death.

[@BetaComboZ]

FROM THE TOP ROPE!

[@righteousknight9068]

The cat after the bear scene. YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING! 😂😂😂

[@BetaComboZ]

Ssshhhh don't give away my secrets!

[@NuffSaidBob]

11:06 just gonna save this so I can watch it over and over again. Great job with this video. Keep going bro. The grind is never over 👍

[@BetaComboZ]

Thanks man! Always appreciated!😊

[@jesuspernia8031]

I really didn’t like Spider-Man 2 that much. I thought it was riddled with a bunch of melodramatic cutscenes and the story wasn’t good. Especially when comparing it to the first game. Yeah this game’s combat and swinging is fun but I just didn’t like it overall. Would much rather play Spider-Man 1 and the Miles game.

[@BetaComboZ]

I totally understand this perspective and also agree to a lot of what you've said. It wasn't as "spectacular" as the original for sure.

[@mestre12]

The owlbear elbow drop. Classic

[@gotohellgoogle9248]

As a gamer since the mid 80s. Baldurs gate 3 is literally the best game I have played in my entire life.

[@BetaComboZ]

I couldn't agree more! I just recently started playing it again and I'm still shocked at just how well made the game is.

[@Brhinosaurus]

Great video dude!! I have never actually played either games but now I am going to have to try Baulders Gate. Love the content. Keep it up ❤

[@kuroakikitsune]

Bg3 is my first larian game and i love it! I do love fantasy games, so that certainly swayed me. (witcher, elder scrolls, dragon age, just to name a few) spiderman is my favourite superhero, but the games look flashy but boring to me. Theres so much i missed on my first playthrough of bg3 (which i haven't finished- almost) and actually knowing how a lot of things work now, it feels so different. I've already sunk 101 hours into bg3.

[@nissahauer4309]

It wasn't spiderman 2 against bg3 it was more like Alan wake 2 vs bg3

[@darkraven4467]

BG3 has everything you could possibly want in a game. It has awesome characters, story, quests, it has romance, comedy. It definitely deserves the game of the year award!

[@BetaComboZ]

Couldn't agree more!

[@christianrinaldi103]

I want to spend some words about narrative, characters and freedom. The thing i love in BG3 is that the story almost gives you only the incipit,and the entire story is REALLY written by your actions,choices and consequences. Besides Shadowheart (wich you can recruit or kill) you can avoid every companion and play a full lonewolf run. Characters are all so well written that you attach to them,and you can have a friendly or not friendly relastionship with any of them depending on you actions or tastes in company,and they evolve their personality in good and bad always depending on you; there is not a script that takes the story on a binary, and the game rewards you for NOT doing things the way they do (how many times in a game you said "why the protagonist can't do like this?", well here you can do it). A little example of not having a script: Despite hating her in the beginning for her attitude,i do choices that ended up keeping Shadowheart's interest torwards me. After some long rests she propose to spend time together,and then i start loving her,and she says she doesn't want to become a Dark Justiciar anymore. Later in act 2,she has the chance to become a Dark Justiciar,and Narrator tells,thanks to my bond with her,i can easily convince her to let go her dark ambitions. I fail a persuasion check and i was having a heart attack because she threathens to kill me,but i let her do and she keeps the right choice by herself,and after that she confesses her love and,in the end,i have an happy life wirh her. What's the cool fact in this story? Is that other games would have write this story on a script,in BG3 this story has been written by YOUR actions,with consequences; your actions takes to neutral/friendly/unfriendly/love relastionships with everyone that will have different story for each other. You fear for the fate of everyone because,after you love every one of them, YOU write with your hands their fates,not a script of a story already written

[@DEVil-po5xz]

spiderman 2 is a 70 dollar game that sacrifices quantity for quality. Baldurs Gate 3 is a 60 dollar game that sacrifices neither of those things and pulls off both of them. End of story.

[@dragongamerx12]

i had one fight where i spent most of it shoving the goblins off roof tops

[@BetaComboZ]

If you didn't have at least one fight shoving people off cliffs...did you really play BG3?

[@czms922]

I love that all of the reasonings why baldurs gate 3 suck in the dude bros eyes are. Boils down to "It's not mainstream enough"xD

[@Mecht]

Why is this still a conversation? Larian produced a masterpiece, an anomaly, and they only continue to prove they deserve these rewards. It's not even a matter of opinions, they went above and beyond. I love Spiderman but no competition.

[@BetaComboZ]

I agree!!

[@Mecht]

​@@BetaComboZ It's crazy, I don't understand how some people can't at least acknowledge how above and beyond Larian went. But yet here we are

[@ancientroullete]

What’s so funny, people making the “But I Haven’t Played It” the same can be said about Spider-Man 3 or TOTK

[@BetaComboZ]

Very true!!

[@callum5471]

Bg3 is Skyrim but you don’t need mods to enjoy and a better story

[@CoL_Drake]

Even if BG3 didn't exist spiderman 2 wouldn't had won game of the year.

[@BetaComboZ]

I agree. Too many heavy hitters last year.

[@BillBrasky5351]

Lil Snapshot of who's playing things right now on steam: 1. Counter-Strike 2 710,380 2. Dota 2. 374,475 3. Team Fortress 2. 207,569 4. Baldur's Gate 3. 160,664 5. Grand Theft Auto V 133,754

[@BetaComboZ]

BG3 still out here being a goat I see.

[@ashfall7006]

Leaving a comment on this hilarious and well made video so the algorithm pays more attention to it 👍

[@BetaComboZ]

You're too kind. 👑

[@UmbraVolpes]

I had a fight in act 2 go so sideways i threw the iron flask....and that somehow saved me and key npcs

[@BetaComboZ]

All hail the Iron Flask

[@MrAnony07]

Spiderman3 10 or so hr's you've done everything Baldur’s Gate 3 100s of hrs & several playthroughs later you can still be having wildly different senerios for most of the game plus there mod's & multiplayer to keep it going there's a reason why Baldur’s Gate 3 has 80k-200k on steam alone playing daily Baldur’s Gate 3 is such a widely good game it's crazy to even think such a game was ever made Baldur’s Gate 3 is such a good game it's in fact one of the best game's ever made in the last few decades & will most likely still best one of the best fir decades to play.

[@BetaComboZ]

Firstly, how was that one entire sentence? Secondly, I agree.

[@Havanahood56]

As someone who beat spiderman in 3 days(playing after work everynight till about 3 a.m) it was incredibly mid, not bad at all not terrible, i enjoyed playing and agree it was fun, but even on the hardest diffuclty it was incredibly easy with no challenge and made me feel like it was a kids game(which makes sense for a super hero game) I platniumed the game on my 4th day after work. Im still on my first playthrough of Baulders gate that i made on launch day Now baulders gate ive been playing it on and off and my god the game is just chefs kiss, theres so much content so many ways to play, different mechanics that im learning to make my team compositions stronger encounters that can take me 30 minutes to an hour to complete, and i feel so much more interested and involved in the world because all my actions have actual consequences in the game, even the characters in my party are dynamically changing and evolving their personalities based on my choices. The writing is god tier and the acting is superb. Spiderman 2 had a good story aswell but it wasnt anything worth remembering, and as for gameplay the symbiot suit felt like the only real "innovation" to combat, i will say the web wings is chefs kiss swinging and movement always feels so good. But yea baulders gate is just objectivly better than spiderman 2

[@wyldeman7]

The games for the average folks who don't really like video games (spider man, 2k, fortnite, call of duty. Etc) are for such a different group of people than baldurs gate 3. Like the kids who work for me. They wouldn't understand deep gameplay mechanics and they sure as shit have no idea what player agency is. It's this simple. For spider man to even sniff the depth of BG3 you'd be able kill Mary Jane. Reanimate her dead corpse to ask her about it. Then hurl her body off a skyscraper and hit the green goblin. Who would then have voiced dialog for that exact scenario and ask you about why you hit him with your dead girlfriend.

[@BetaComboZ]

THIS might be my favorite comment of 2023. Holy shit.

[@lil_jay7926]

I ain’t gonna lie, I really like Spider-Man, but I like story driven games like Uncharted and Tlou more than overrated games like Cod, and tbh it’s good thing that people try Spider-Man since it is story-driven, and a lot of streamers enjoyed it, cause they trying out different games, cause tbh me playing the first Spider-Man and Miles Morales, I think Spider-Man 2 was worth $70

[@Rat89]

Ones an action game another is a roleplaying game. I wonder why the roleplaying game has much more meaningful interactions than spooderdude. One is a cinematic experience while the other has you buckled for a ride with total freedom. With one game you beat once 100% it and maybe down the road you can replay it again for the same exact experience. Bg3 you can do a dozen playthroughs and have tons of different encounters with so many branching paths and outcomes. Each story can have tons of variations and different outcomes it's impossible to 100% it in one go

[@lil_jay7926]

I mean it’s not Spider-Man 2 or BG3 has a bad story, me personally I enjoyed Spider-Man 2 a lot, I played the first one and it was good, but y’all Spider-Man like it’s mediocre Cod

[@nonsensicalnonsense1035]

Larian even added sex update before the community could even ask 😌🙏

[@BetaComboZ]

EXACTLY!

[@lorgrenbenirus]

Because it simply is better then Spiderman 2 game in every way. Great game, great story, not to mention that you can literally change how things will go and end in countless situations, play the game over many times and each time have a different way of doing things based on your choices, have different results. Various characters, each with their own story and those stories in turn can have different progression and outcomes depending on choices. Versus some linear console platform jumper with fancy visuals here and there. Nothing to compare to.

[@BetaComboZ]

Absolutely. It's night and day difference. I like Spider-Man 2, but BG3 changed my perspective of expectations.

[@Mohamed-mg8uh]

I love bg3 but for some reason I really want to play Spider-Man 2 more. I think Spider-Man 2 is just more my style though bg3 is objectively the way better game.

[@markdanellejohnson3810]

I played my first campaign of BG3, played through the entire story of Spiderman 2, and went right back to BG3 and completed my second campaign, now I'm on my 3rd playthroug as Dark Urge and omg, the game keeps getting bigger and I'm finding more and more stuff I missed each time, like, entire areas, stories, not just small things like an item I missed. 300 hours in so far. So good.

[@TerraWare]

The games are totally different far as genre's so not really an apples to apples but yeah BG3 is on a league of its own as far as everything the industry has to offer. I like Spiderman 2 don't get me wrong but its like the first spiderman but a continuation of it which is fine but the way BG3 impacted the industry is similar in how Elden Ring did and Spiderman 2 is to BG3 what Horizon Forbidden West was to Elden Ring imo.

[@BetaComboZ]

I agree 👍

[@stephengrigg5988]

The fans tripping about it losing GOTY was less surprising than them freaking that the actor didn't win. I always thought he was a pretty generic spiderman and gave a pretty generic performance

[@Jay-bl8ne]

Spider-Man 2 did was great all around and did a few things amazingly. Baldur's Gate 3 is near perfection.

[@BetaComboZ]

My thoughts exactly!

[@hanzomain8302]

I personally would even say it is perfection. At least up to now.

[@DEVil-po5xz]

@@hanzomain8302 nah, near perfection. there are a few quests that either feel unfinished or rushed. Spoilers: Mol is an example of this. She just magically somehow escapes Moorise towers. no explanation.

[@Caininthechongs]

I’m at 15 hours in usually hate this type of game but the level of polish and complete lack of fomo is so refreshing, I’m actually enjoying and not rushing through for once. Spider-Man looks great and I can see the appeal but bg3 is a masterpiece it deserves all the awards it’s received I can’t wait for many 100s of hours to come

[@Caininthechongs]

To add Also unlocked a new genre of game for me this is the dark souls affect I had as a kid I’ve been searching for this feeling for a long time

[@SumireSakura]

If BG3 wouldnt have released this year then Zelda would have won. BG3 and Zelda are 2 of the best games ever created

[@keflas3842]

Larian studios still remembers how to make an rpg worth its weight

[@R3TR0J4N]

even Spiderman 1 still holds up, since it was reminiscent of the same impact of having all the spiderman films w/ Alvin Sargent (Bryan Intahar was inspired from) as a single game.

[@TonyOnYourTV]

My friends played BG3 first and was obsessing over Astarion. I always said in my head, god wouldn’t be me when I play. After 5 minutes of talking/traveling with Astarion, no one else is allowed to romance him now besides me 😂 I’m obsessed now

[@Hynotama]

“It gave the same feelings the Arkham games did” Except the Arkham games were industry pioneers and deserved to be GOTY. In fact, there are similarities between the development story of Arkham Asylum and BG3.

[@BetaComboZ]

I could make an entire video about how they only had one guy ONLY MAKING THE DAMN CAPE!

[@RonnieMyers777]

Spiderman 2 is probably good but I didnt beat pt.1 & Miles Morales games yet. Baldurs Gate 3 though? THAT shit goes hard. I just hit 350hrs on ps5 so far

[@BetaComboZ]

Oooof. Well, don't feel bad. Miles was only 7 HOURS OF STORY MODE!

[@lil_jay7926]

Ay you should finish the games man, they’re good, at least imo, at least get back into them and don’t give up on the Spider-Man games

[@liathedoll]

7:40 that 3 games going at the same time is too real 💀 Fam I can’t choose between my 3 Dark Urge and 1 Tav runs when i open the game. HALP!

[@BetaComboZ]

It's a good problem to have haha

[@liathedoll]

@@BetaComboZ true! Biggest issue is trying to not feel like Tav origin is too peaceful after Dark Urge 😂

[@Gamfluent]

The discourse around GOTY has been insufferable to the point I’ve had to delete comments just to stop getting 12 year old replying with the same shit 2022-3 GOTY events were good but let’s be honest no one was getting in anything but elden ring and BG3 winning, a better discourse would be Elden ring vs baldurs gate, in which Elden ring wins

[@TheCobraKing209]

“Here in my garage” gave me the whole “I’m here in my garage, just bought this brand new Lamborghini” vibes

[@tetsugiux1917]

Baldur's gate 3 all characters are original and their stories are original, you can throw your own party members.

[@BetaComboZ]

I've accidentally killed a couple of mine before haha

[@frankallen3634]

My game comes out every 6 years and I never touch turn based, D&D which I have hated since 1980. And yes I've only played my game since 2016...9000 hours so far. And will until 2025 when the next mainline game comes out.

[@BetaComboZ]

I've played a total of 30 minutes of D&D. This game still hooked me. I think that says a lot. Over 9000 hours in a game is insanity though. (I've done that before I'm sure)

[@TheyCallMeWaru]

yeah stick of truth is turn based and hands down one of my favorite games

[@BetaComboZ]

A stick of truth player? You have all my respect

[@justinparker776]

Cool video. The guy's name is Neil Newbon, not Newborne

[@BetaComboZ]

Damn my journalism skills!! (Thank you)

[@MavenCree]

Put the cat down. Put the cat down. Put the cat down. Step awaaaaaay from the cat, sir.

[@BetaComboZ]

Hey! It's a platonic, I swear!

[@takeyourheart1]

The weirdest thing to me is people thought Spider-Man 2 would have won without BG3. No, Zelda or Alan Wake 2 would have won. Spider-Man 2 was never gonna win GOTY. And Neil Newbon deserved that award a million percent.

[@BetaComboZ]

That's a good point. There were a few heavy hitters last year!

[@druidlololol]

I can't imagine what sort of miracles must happen in order for anyone - including Larian Studios - to create a game that's better than Baldur's Gate 3.

[@joshguerrero4604]

Depending on where it goes from here, BG3 has best game of all time potential. It is truly remarkable.

[@themcons50]

First time here. Solid vid man. Great presentation straight ahead and on point. Keep up the good work dude. 👏👏👏

[@BetaComboZ]

Thank you so much! Working on something to upload soon so look forward to it!

[@alexdoorn234]

When I first saw the trailer for bg3 I knew I would love the game, I love dnd I play in a dnd campaign DMed by my big brother. So I was excited! I have not even played through the game yet, my laptop has issues running the game and I do not own a PS5 sadly. So right now I have three games running: Nox the tiefling sorcerer who I cannot play on my laptop, Styrmir the dragonborn sorcerer I play on my youngest brother's laptop and Sylas the dragonborn druid that I play in a sort of co-op campaign with all of my brothers. Basically my oldest made a Dark Urge tiefling warlock and I made Sylas while my other 2 brothers pick companions to play during battle or roleplay moments. My youngest brother chose Karlach and my other brother chose Astarion we are at act 2 right now playing through it blind and I am loving every second of it.