Why Ben and Collin Johns Ended Their Partnership

[@NK-oy3cg]

Game evolved dramatically this year. Faster, more aggressive and powerful. Adapt or die. Ben is still so good he can win without making changes, but his brother's play became a liability. They both could see it, no drama here.

[@LiamWestPickleball]

Another incredibly paced and well researched video from Bestia! Keep up the great work!

[@DeeTeeHawaii]

When I started playing Pickleball in September 2023, I quickly learned that when both teammates master offensive & defensive capabilities to optimize "controlled aggression", that's the winning formula. Doubles Pickleball has a wide variety of gameplay options. The team that puts the offensive pressure on the opposing team better, wins.

[@bestgaminghighlights8160]

The Vulcan ball is HORRENDOUS!!! It’s such a shame because they give money we have to use their balls. Dura was a bit better and Franklins are far superior.

[@stevec6919]

Franklins is better

[@druidit]

Which model of Franklin's are you referring to?

[@zaf7819]

I wonder if the game was still played with paddles with the power of Gen 1 paddles if BJ and CJ would still be dominant.

[@rickrzendzian2228]

No, IMO money, contracts, sponsorships have allowed players to focus on development. Besides the pro game is patterns, insanity is doing the same thing but expecting different results. Once the pattern the psychological aspect to beat the Johns was discovered their reign started to end.

[@jw4321]

It seemed inevitable as I watched them play and the opponents began to conquer them this year.

[@Cacheola]

I'm not a fan when one player, or a team continuously dominates. I root for the underdogs and happy to see the Johns' facing stiff competition. Perhaps Ben's days are numbered?

[@golfmaniac007]

Ben in doubles is still the best partner to have...no better doubles partner

[@rachy9801]

I feel like Ben needs to work on his 2hbh and forehand off the bounce speed ups and CJ def needs to be much more aggressive

[@aronisink1]

Bens singles game has suffered also so its not all of Collins fault for them losing in doubles.

[@rickrzendzian2228]

Not only did the technology change, more important MONEY came into the game. PB Contracts and sponsorships allow marginal players to quit their day jobs. The level of play has increased dramatically in the last year...and it just ain't the paddles. ALW is one of the few players that embraced this NEW style (ahead of everyone else) of play from the get go. That's why she will set records that will NEVER be broken....the GOAT!

[@rickrzendzian2228]

By the way IMHO BJ should look at CJ Klinger lefty, young, fearless, teachable, and has a very good (same demeaner) as BJ.

[@GoldenPickled]

The women simply aren’t at the level as the guys yet(relatively)

[@enkh-uliraldechin7071]

@@rickrzendzian2228 I love Klinger, amazing player

[@seonglee1173]

I agree. He is most emotional stable level headed among teenagers

[@rickrzendzian2228]

@@seonglee1173 Kid has game, I think BJ could mold him into great partner.

[@MrBrad777c]

I saw a funny comment that said "Its because Collin is just plain weak". Thats obviously a bit of a stretch but its true that INDIVIDUALLY hes probably not in the top 30 players among Men in pro PB. However lets remember that Collin developed the strategy....sacrificed taking a smaller role and court space.....and trained both players specifically as a unit controlled by Ben. That said as the ability of elite double pairings to raise the level of competition an evolution is now necessary if they want to WIN at a high percentage. I see some people saying Ben needs a better 2HBH and Collin needs to be more aggressive....but thats completely NOT their strengths and its probably too late in the game to adapt. Collin needs to transition to COACH....and Ben needs to find a young and most importantly LEFT handed player. I'm a solid 3.5 and available.....but in reality Klinger should be at the top of the list....followed by either Tellez or Loong.....and there are a few others close behind. The ability for both players to stack to their dominate sides is just too much of an advantage not to cash in on.

[@MrBrad777c]

I will add that one of my favorite right side players that is a "righty" is Big H. If I had to pick a righty for Ben he would probably be my choice. Him or possibly QD!

[@seonglee1173]

Tardio>Klinger>Ge>H

[@MrBrad777c]

@@seonglee1173 Great picks

[@gabeanderson8816]

@@seonglee1173put H at number two and I agree

[@LiamWestPickleball]

​@@MrBrad777cI would also love to see him play with Big H but I wonder if their personalities would mesh, Ben being more muted and H being more in their face

[@gabeanderson8816]

Excellent all the way to the end when you totally fumbled in pronouncing Auggie’s name. Shows you’re not a real one. There’s been a ton of opportunity to hear it on MLP and PPA commentary.

[@rburnsiv]

When did he say Augie's name?

[@joewilliekingdom]

its bc Collin is just plain weak

[@Itsezpickleball]

Lmao one of the best players out there how is he weak

[@GoldenPickled]

@@Itsezpickleballeven if you’re a top fifty player you’re still one of the best players on the world. However compared to let’s just say the top 10, you’re impotent.

[@Anitajohnson69]

lol wait what? I’m not a big fan of his but you can’t deny his record. He is an amazing player.

[@GoldenPickled]

@@Anitajohnson69 no doubt. But he’s definitely slipped out of the to 10 in my open

[@edwardlacalifornia9634]

Call it SMASH BALL and start another league. Leave Pickleball as it was meant to be played 🧐

[@RobinskyRohue]

Legit no one cares about JV Tennis...cough cough I mean Pickleball. The greatest mens doubles in pickleball has less talent combined than Jannik Sinners pinky finger. In fact I bet Sinner could beat them at their OWN GAME of JV Tennis/Pickleball 2 v 1

[@califilipino]

Always one bot making a fool of themselves in the comments like this