Why Brand Choice Does (and Doesn't) Matter (RC Racing)

[@MarkSantaMaria]

THANKS FOR THE SHOUTOUT! LOVE THE VIDEOS!

[@Brenno031]

Thanks for your videos. As someone just getting back into the hobby after a 15 year hiatus, the info you’ve provided is a massive help

[@herbert4247]

Dude makes great videos. High quality video, excellent information and very well spoken. Nice job man

[@jhsumatt]

Great vid as always man. Quick suggestion. Bump up your audio levels a tad bit. Your vids audio are about 0.5 to 0.75 the amount of most others. Keep up the awesome.

[@AV-RC]

INSTA click for anything my boy Roach drops. Much love my dude!

[@extec101]

the same roach upload i watch.

[@Bobbo343]

idgaf ive always wanted to race a full fleet of kyosho cars and now i can buy my own so im going to do just that until theres no parts to find anymore

[@elongatedmusketgun9185]

Totally agree with this take. As always, a great video!

[@johnm360]

I just bought a MP10e - cant wait to build it. I went Spektrum esc, 2200kv motor, transmitter, & receiver. I live Marietta by the way.. lol.

[@Storyracing387]

Great video Cade! All great points. We all like different things for different reasons and THAT is what makes this hobby awesome!!

[@ThomasOverthun]

your videos are always so good. thanks man

[@robertkakela2068]

Great pass at the end of the video

[@BigZ124]

Hey hey, keep the videos coming!

[@jmarques79]

great insights. I appreciate your videos.

[@dovahkiinsadventures7632]

I remember when i first started racing 25 years ago the tracks had 2 options for off road. Losi and AE. That was about it in my area. Coming back into the hobby i was really overwhelmed with the choices! But for me i went with what i was comfortable with. Just wish there were closer tracks. Hopefully soon i can get out to Loganville.

[@p_hat]

Roach, check out the Infinity IFB8 buggy next. Solid pillow ball style car I've gotten the chance to run out here in AZ and it's pretty dang good with a generic setup in it.

[@pat88c]

Great video as always 👍

[@dirtrider88]

12:31 that was hilarious. a real 3 stooges moment.

[@Shellbackrc]

Great video! I switched over to WIRC from Agama earlier this year because I was given an opportunity to join the team from the team manager Rob Isaac . I definitely have gotten great support from fellow teammates and our local track/shop is the US distributor for WIRC so it's nice to be able to go there for the parts I need so the change has been very beneficial.

[@chocolateapocalypse]

Though I love my B7 and haven't bent/broken any parts I can see where someone just starting should probably look at a B6.x to learn the ropes then upgrade when their skills warrant it. If someone has their heart set on AE. Great vid!

[@n00b247]

6:29 you can imagine racers of those 2 cars doing the same thing off camera.

[@marinearmeni]

Great video!

[@proudtoaster2118]

Compared to all of the rc groups on fb i see. Tekno has the least issues. Best build quality and easiest to set up. Customer support is pretty on point too.

[@M3GANWEAPON8]

Interesting when I got back into Ebuggy it was between the tekno and X-ray since they were the only two I tried. That’s how i determined what I might get by trying the car if people let me. And at the time what was available to buy used. In the end I got a X-ray 2021 used that was ready to run with tires so it was the best deal so far I’m doing well with it.

[@davidfountain6934]

Awesome video man, By the way sorry for disappearing the other day got called into work.

[@nickarchibald08]

I’m looking at getting a Caster Racing ETO821 rtr, I would like to know what your thoughts are, and are there any rtr cars around that price that would be similar or better?

[@RoachRC]

I'd say that's a fairly good choice RTR if you can find parts for it

[@BrendanCorwin1030]

I was getting into RC and I learned to drive with a arrma typhon, it was unable to keep up with racing buggies, I had a bunch of tekno guys encourage me to get a tekno because i would be able to keep up with other drivers. I bought one and ran it for a year and a half and i was just unable to really get it to corner the way i wanted, after a while i drove my friends Sworkz car and it drove just like my old typhon, and was even faster then the tekno. Sometimes the car everyone else runs is not what is best for you, if there truly was one car that was superior to the rest of them you would see everyone run them, look at custom works in the dirt oval scene. If you know someone who has a car your interested in, see if they will let you drive it.

[@lifeless117]

Nice video, I own the TLR 8ight x elite and 8ight truggy. Here in Southern CA, people mainly run at my local track tekno, team associate, kyosho, and some mugen. I don't see much TLR, but my hobby shop/track stocks up parts. The main reason why I stay with TLR is bc some people talk trash or say it's odd bc they don't see TLR.

[@justicepool]

Great video, i'm coming back to RC after 26 years away and going with Tekno. Sorry for your experience on that page you mentioned. I used to be a Losi diehard, but they are a little different now. I'm looking for a 2wd buggy since Tekno doesn't offer one, based on your video I'm going to check out the Mugen and Schumacher

[@voodooreptiles3553]

Associated

[@LuCKyG931]

for a real like "beginner" i would allways recommend going the popular local brand, just for knowlage and parts support. as soon as we talk about someone who is a self sustainable racer, with that i mean someone who can set is own stuff up and can do his own maintenance and has enough experience to just take care of his own program. then i would say drive whatever platform you want for whatever reason you weigh heavy in your preferences. BUT stick to it for a while. i ride my brand now for the 4th season and still just made a breakthrough this year with tinkering the cars geometry with some other brands parts and drilling my own roll center holes. it is a lot about knowing your Chassis, the better you know it, the better you can take care of it, and the more you can optimize it to your own prefernces to make it fit like a glove for your driving style. you won't get that with changing brand every year.

[@dannyfox8170]

MSB1 top plates keep snapping and the rear shock standoffs keep bending too! I went B7, but a buddy has the MSB1. We think the chassis flexing is causing the servo horn to break through the top plate. I have been lucky with my B7, broken arm and a couple gouges in the chassis, but I have also smacked the crap out of it a handful of times. Maybe I am just lucky, but I seriously am considering running a 6.4 instead if I start to have problems like others have.

[@stevec9704]

I’m learning that area has everything to do with this hobby in sourcing parts or upgrades unless you own and drive a Traxxas. This is the frustration I am experiencing.

[@normanboeck5444]

We got away from losi because of parts availability and team associated because of durability. We all switched to traxxas, and while it’s taken a while to make them competitive, we have them going every bit as fast as anything else. Parts are available everywhere and they are relatively cheap.

[@DownandQuietRC]

Great Vid, 🪳!

[@josephfisher8353]

Didn't realize that my Hillbilly comment was gonna hit the nail on the head... You are definitely the bigger man for being able to put the buffoonery behind you. Keep up the great work!

[@jaymoney7118]

Tekno has 50% off warranty program and they are durable as hell . IMO Tekno is the cheapest to own

[@alphawlff]

At the track/shop near me only 2 car brands are supported... Traxxas and Team Associated. Your on your own with everything else. My first modern racer was a used Kyosho Ultima RB 6.6.

[@TeknoSavage]

Interesting video

[@atkracing]

I ran a Arrma Senton against tekno and Losi trucks and won at my local club

[@NikkiNexo777]

I ran a Traxxas Slash 4x4 locally against Tekno and TLR and won. It's all about setup and tire selection.

[@deadhooligan306]

Any thoughts to why AMain removed the Tekno NB48 2.1 from their online store?

[@jaymoney7118]

Nb48 2.2 coming July August

[@mic-drop-74]

Great vid Roach. You are correct on the brands. Always good to have diversity of brands to keep the honest company honest. I do tend to stick with what I know, like Traxxas in SCT, which every hobby shop stocks.

[@johngoforth3006]

What are your thoughts for the kyosho mp-10e ready set for a beginner? Could I be competitive in noob or intermediate classes if I’m lucky enough to find the “driver mod” with practice?

[@RoachRC]

I really like the Mp10e that I run now, it's also the most stable car I've ever driven so it would be good to learn on. Only thing I'd worry about would be part support and having to use Philips head screws for hardware

[@russellupkes8263]

I’m totally new to the hobby. I’ve only been in it for 4 months now. Would like to give racing a try so would my 10 year old son. I thought about getting a SCT . But one of the local guys suggested running a buggy. He feels they are easier to run than the SCT. I do have the Arrma Vorteks BLX 4x4 3S. Some local racers suggested running it until I get it figured out. And see what others are running and see what I prefer and go from there. All of that being said what would you suggest as a good beginner rig to race. In my local area Traxxas and Arrma dominate in the LHS. The guy suggested the buggy over the SCT due to the parachuting of the SCT bodies. Thanks and great video. You’ve gained a Sub!

[@RoachRC]

@@russellupkes8263 I would very much recommend the buggy. Also thanks for your support my friend

[@russellupkes8263]

@@RoachRC which buggy would you recommend? You’re welcome for the support. I’m a very late bloomer to the hobby I’m 63. 😎

[@RoachRC]

@@russellupkes8263 Hmm hard to say, I'd say tekno or Mugen, those two are extremely solid and simple buggies

[@Recovery-Dawg]

No TLR?

[@ballard-bt2ts]

As an admitted Tekno fanboy you got me with clickbait on this video, although I’ve watched many of your others. I thought I’d go into this video hearing about why it’s lame to be a hipster. But I fully appreciate your view here. And I’m glad you’re running agama. It’s nearly all AE 1/10th here and parts are abundant, but my experience with the AE kits, more specifically their terrible owners manuals, has been less than stellar. This video makes me want to rethink begging Tekno to build a 1/10th program, and try something different. I’m willing to buy any brand outside of Hotizon or Traxxas. I might even try a Mayako even though JQ makes it a tough pill to swallow, lol. The spare parts advice is rough if a newcomer can’t afford to stock up though. The best way to have spares is a second kit built as a slider, pull parts off as needed, replace with new and then sell the slider in two years or whatever to recoup the money.

[@Joe_Jenkins404]

Hey i could see my stadium truck in this video lol

[@fredjones2841]

My fleet is 85% yokomo

[@johnboyrichy5452]

B7 is an awesome platform, so much better than the 6.4, c block has now been rectified, drive clean no problems.

[@InstrumentvanVrede]

It would be wonderful if TLR replenished their parts stock in June instead of July. I need to replace the front gearbox since I crashed hard. I purchased the TLR 22X-4 Elite because of nostalgia, always wanted a Losi buggy circa 1990's and couldn't afford it, and due to not knowing which brand to go with coming in to the current market. I can wait but it seems odd since their kits are going to be available in June?! I suppose every brand has its problems. I also just replaced the OEM drive train with the Matt Olsen Design (MOD) kit because I got tired of TLR's front center drive shaft ball joint chipping and losing the cva pin. ugh.

[@dizzychizzy1]

Credit to for getting the AGAMA and I know it was for our sake… when I get a buggy I want something that everyone doesn’t have… I’m going to go serpent… any top level buggy will do the trick. The rest is all marketing… parts can be purchased online and in advance for every brand…. Get something to stand out from the crowd and I bet you will be proud of your unique car.

[@TeknoTakeover-xd3bt]

You should tell us about mugen next

[@TruggyDriver69]

Manufacturers need to focus more on the little guy than the pro driver bottom line.

[@CarveLife]

Getting back Into it. Gone for 25 years. I have 6 t3s 😂. Man stuff has changed.

[@simonpeterdalangpan9761]

This is exactly why I only use SERPENT Kits because no one has them. Don't be sheeps folks ;)

[@CplVeers]

I like my kyoshos, very happy buggies

[@_nerox_9833]

That's why i Stick to Agama. They do something different and it works very well for me. Part Support isn't a problem here in europe. Most of our local drivers drive mugen or sworkz, but those cars are not for me. I also tried associated and xray. I am the only one with the Agama and i let try other people to drive my car and they said that the Agama handles very good and they are thinking about to change brand. Hopefully more people drive something different and smaller brands like agama, wirc and so on are become more popular.

[@virtualreality4me544]

My New B7 is being delivered on Saturday 😂

[@85klstewart]

I'm a big believer in brand loyalty regardless of the new hotness I started with TLR ill end with them.

[@liono510]

Brand loyal 😂😂 You care about a brand that don’t care about you! Man please! Run whatever u want! These companies couldn’t care less what you run

[@Holmanrc]

I enjoy all your videos. Whoever called you anything other than your name has personal issues lol.

[@xWORLDxCHAMPIONx]

Im a total tekno bro, unless we’re talking 2wd then im a Losi guy lol

[@bluegroovemodelsports9650]

Darn it. I wasn't first

[@some-guy1952]

in the comments or in rc?

[@RcRalf96]

The thing that really annoys me about brand choice are the people that treat it like a religion. Choose one an then stick with it forever. Far too many people I know buy a car because of the name written on the box rather than the content of the box. IMO the product itself should matter more than the brand and innovation/progress/quality should be rewarded by sales. Also I can confirm the LD3 ist surprisingly tough.

[@dirtrider88]

5:30 hot bodies?

[@jamesdash1906]

I'm done racing !!!!!! Just to damn expensive !!!!!!!

[@RoachRC]

Aww

[@donnienicholson180]

Because the B7 was designed by a touring car guy. A guy that ran awesomatix touring cars ... Awesomatix has a reputation of having very little durability points. A brittle touring car frfr

[@twilliamrc4wd]

I have run the Hobao Hyper VSE buggy and Hobao Hyper SSTE truggy i love them.

[@Polk4t]

I been beat by alot of techno man.

[@dizzychizzy1]

Ps bro still running the same track footage from months ago… I’ve seen that blob of dirt do laps I think in 4-5 different videos… come on bro… we just want to see car rip laps. New laps!!!

[@cliftonphilip480]

Any particular reason u go out of your way to not mention TLR vehicles. If u do have an issue with Horizon people who subscribe to your channel do also drive TLR buggies brother. Not a good look for your channel

[@RoachRC]

I don't have anything against TLR or Horizon, They're just not my favorite

[@ohalrighthen4301]

I'm a TLR fan but never seem to be able to get parts, especially in Australia. So I don't blame anyone from shying away from it.

[@dakotaburnette5353]

This aged well didn’t it 😂😂😂

[@DrBwacko]

LMAO Mark Santa Maria his channel is more Traxxas then anything else. I stay away from Tekno cause high priced and no parts in my area without having to order. But the price of their cars is the main thing. I've been Team Associated since the 80s and never looked at any other