Why buy a Kirby Avalir? When you can buy a Kirby heritage II?

[@burningdeath1]

I don't normally comment on vacuum videos, but a few years ago I found a Heritage II Turbo buried in a huge mound of dirt and poison ivy. I pulled it out, gave it a good cleaning, and then I plugged it in. I dunno how long it was buried but it roared right up and ran like a champion.

[@910iva]

They last forevr, in 30 years only 2 %breakdown

[@cjhawk67]

My classic 3 lasted 42 years with nothing but belts and 1 brush roll replacement and only died after a faultily wired outlet sent 220 to my motor making it melt the copper wires and 2 of the commutating blocks right off the armature

[@mattjones7621]

I have the model 519 (1959) and it still runs like the day it was new. I completely rebuilt it in 2009, but made other modifications to it some years afterward. I have a Diamond Edition, too, but the 519 is lighter and easier to use.

[@shermankaspar1818]

found my heritage II in my neighborhood on the curb on trash day. i grabbed it, cleaned it up and put a new belt on it. been using it ever since 2004

[@randomvids5883]

Yay 😁

[@One-Day-After-Another]

I was watching another video and he was saying the carbon brushes need to be changed every two to three years depending on use.... Is that right? Seems weird... I've had vacuums for much longer than that that haven't been touched in terms of the motor

[@TEDodd]

@@One-Day-After-Another it depends on how much use it gets. But in a home setting I can't imagine needing brushes that often. My Classic 3 was rebuilt when I bought it in 1993. Haven't changed the brushes yet. I guess if it was used for a few hours every day you might only get a few years. Even then they are cheap and easy to replace.

[@jacobzelmore6080]

I have a Heritage II just because I found one at the thrift store and it had 30 bags with it. It was $5.00-- figured the machine didn't work, but it runs like a champ. They did great with the Heritage II!

[@PerformanceReviews]

+Jacob Zelmore this is the point of the video that this is one of the best vacuums to get on a budget or collect

[@jacobzelmore6080]

Performance Reviews Indeed!

[@fleetknightgreywolf7795]

Those took REUSABLE bags The last model was a legend2/heritage2 Tradition was first model with disposable bag was brought out... Then a heritage/legend then legend 2 1987 then 1990 g3 (no reusable option yet " reigned supreme" til 1993 when g four came out

[@greenmirror5555]

@@PerformanceReviews and when owning one or a few and you employer closes their doors you can get by cleaning neighborhood carpets for food!

[@TEDodd]

@@fleetknightgreywolf7795 it's easy to convert the reusable bag to disposable bags. I did that to my Classic 3 to make the wife happy. Simplest way is to get get a complete mini emptor and bag assembly from a model that came with disposable bags and the emptor connects to the rear of the housing, (not the G3 or newer that connect to the top). I think I paid $30 for the parts back in 2005. Probable cost a bit more now.

[@jonathonrossebo1783]

The Avalir and Heritage II are some really nice looking machines. I wish I got one of those instead of the Sentria. Not too fond of the grey color scheme. I like the black/red color scheme way better.

[@flyurway]

The color of a vacuum cleaner makes a difference????? If you were talking about a Ferrari Testarossa I could see the point, but a vacuum cleaner?? Doesn't it place well at the Pebble Beach Concours vacuum cleaner show?

[@brassmonkeyheheha]

i got a heritage a month or two ago, and it was definitely used a lot. even after 33+ years it still holds up and it runs like brand new

[@shannonhensley7194]

Kirby co warrnty is not through sales rep its from the Kirby co older Kirby don't have same motor

[@mattjones7621]

That Heritage 2 Legend is beautiful!!

[@LoveableSometimes]

I found a sentria at a thrift store today, looked fairly new still, needed a new belt and only cost me $20.

[@generalzod7959]

Wow, great deal!

[@BensSightSoundandAuto]

I have a G4 and a G5 that have both seen heavy use as pre-vacuums for a carpet cleaning business, and apart from wear items they just keep going. I also just bought a rough but working Heritage 1 off eBay for 75aud. Will be a nice little fixer upper. Comes with all the attachments too, including a shaver!!

[@TheCleanersCupboard]

I agree mostly with what you’ve said. I use a Heritage II Legend at home and a G6 at work (I run a commercial cleaning business) I must admit I couldn’t do without the tech drive when I’m using it all day long in larger sites. It really takes the effort out of using it especially on thicker pile carpets. But at home, the Heritage is more than adequate and no tech drive really isn’t an issue.

[@ratlivesmatter125]

Just bought a 240v Legend II here in Hungary (of all places!) In almost brand spanking new condition for 75 bucks. Carpets finally clean

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

The Kirby Heritage 1HD was the last machine the Handi-Butler (then called the Handi-Butler Group) was an option for.

[@ziggiedean39402]

I mean there are some new things you get with the Avalir but when I bought my kirby, I went on eBay and found a G4 with everything and it had been pretty well serviced (new brushroll, belt, bag washed, etc) and only paid $99 for it. Although it has now gone to my mom because I got a new vacuum about a year ago, I still bring it around to give my carpets a shampooing 3 or 4 times a year

[@Captain_Char]

I got my Heritage II from a vacuum store for 100$, only thing that's really been done to it is a new belt every 6 months, and hepa begs, I did recently change the brush roll, I originally had a g5 and it it was a heavy beast compared to the Heritage II, the vacuum gets a polish once a year and stays looking newish

[@Tigger81762]

I have a Tradition and have a Sintrena both I love the tradition yet I like my Sintrena II because the Tec drive , I have a lot of back surgery and the Tradition is much hard to push. So I do agree with why buy the new ones over the old this is one reason why, That and my dad who is 90 still likes to clean and the drive makes it easier for him so I found him a G3. I luv your channel a lot of insight. Thank you

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

S-E-N-T-R-I-A

[@Tigger81762]

Is there a reason why you're just correcting my spelling it was late at night and I didn't pay attention to the auto correct. So if you are going to be negative just don't reply to my post. That was not the sprit of my post, I was just simply saying that the tech drive makes it easier to push when you have a health issue.

[@georgeab9939]

I own both, a Heritage II (Legend) which I have owned since new, and an Avalir. I like them both and find each have their pluses and minus. For me the Avalir is the go to vacuum when I want a deep cleaning. With the drive motor you can get the vacuum a click deeper into the carpet then with the Legend. I prefer the Legend for stairs, car, and on the handmade Turkish rug. I prefer the securing method the newer Kirby’s use for attaching the hepa filter as the bag will not slip off creating a mess. The shampoo system has greatly improved on the Avalir. If I had to choose one, it would be the Avalir as the incremental refinements add up. However, the Legend is not going anywhere; love that machine.

[@rwdplz1]

Have both, the Avalir is better in several ways, the biggest being the self propel tech drive, pushing the older one around after a while is more effort. Avalir and the other Gen 3 vacuums are a LOT easier to tear apart and work on, and get parts for. LED headlight means no more replacing bulbs.

[@tommynygaardjensen8398]

I have a heritage myself!! and it just runs super well, it's the nicest machine in my opinion

[@larrytraber]

Yea it's funny the Kirby salesman say "it's different technology"

[@MarkAgueVacuums]

I will say there's a heritage in my cleaning closet right now but having had a g4 some carpets can make the older machine a beast to push if you follow adjustment directions and that self propel can really help. Any way you look at it the g series has been in production for almost 30 years and the classic series was around for 20 years before that so finding a used Kirby with plenty of life is not a challenge one way or another.

[@lelandford9683]

I recently picked up a Heritage 1 at the Salvation Army for $15... only had to buy a pack of bags, belt and new brush roller (Under $50 in parts) for it to work like a brand new machine. Works way better than any other vacuum I have ever had... with the exception of my parents Heritage II Legend.

[@udon44]

my mom had a legend 2 and the sound brings me back to my 1990s childhood

[@Termite159]

I would love if you did that same test and followed up with that Miele Salsa, Miele canister with SEB 228, Riccar or heck even a Hoover PowerMax style canister from the 90s!! I think all 3 of those vacuums did terribly on cleaning that mat!!!

[@PerformanceReviews]

yes they did that black rug show every thing . the Kirby 2HD was on the rubber part of the Rug not making even contact. Really a bad demo of what it can do on my part . we clean it with a Miele upright and canister 5-15 times a day that pick the same mess up with in 2 passes . :D

[@CO84trucker]

I saw a Kirby Classic vacuum put to the curb on my morning commute a few weeks ago. It was gone by that evening.

[@ashleyfrance-f4p]

I have an Avalir and Heritage 2. The bristles on my Avalir are stiffer and it does a better job on my plush carpet. My Heritage 2 is great for my flat carpet.

[@haylspa]

actually they old ones like to leave those lines while the new ones do not but you don't need an avalir your standard G series can do just fine in fact the avalir really is the same vacuum as a G series just with a new skin the rest is exactly the same

[@PerformanceReviews]

+Joseph Azzato for sure! I have another video explaining that

[@haylspa]

could not find the video to be honest, I use to have a really REALLY old kirby! like the 30s 40s it was awesome!! still wonder how I lost it though :'( but any who Great vacuums thanks for the videos

[@ad356]

@@haylspa like a 505? or 515?

[@couragebagge8545]

I got a used 1989 Kirby legend 2 vacuum cleaner and I restore it.

[@GeoffreyHowells]

Paid $200 for a Gen-10 but have my eyes peeled for a Heritage II popping up on Craiglist. A few coats of aluminum / mag polish and it looks like a million bucks.

[@benjaminlarson3613]

Geoffrey Howells I own a shop I got a factory heritage 2 fitted with a small head and piles of kirbys from 1950s-present and piles of old electrolux tanks and chrome top rainbows old filter queen and tri stars... airways you name it

[@jeremyd2003]

bill I find that cream of tarter helps to clean it. Then if it is really bad ill use very fine like 2000 grit sandpaper to wet sand it. Then. I use mothers aluminium polish and a drill or grinder with a plishing wheel. Whipe it ar the end with Windex and it will look like new.

[@edbarker8636]

They don't change drastically but there are improvements over the years

[@ad356]

what do you think about the much older kirby tradition i currently have. its is great shape and could use a buffing. no mechanical issues at all. what about the tradition vs. heritage II, still pretty much the same machine? does the smaller heritage II nozzle make it any easier to push then the older style nozzle? i have 1. installed the newer style 2 row brush i was thinking about replacing the emptor with a mini emptor off the heritage II and perhaps retrofitting the bag system. i currently have something like 10 style 1 bags on hand some im going to use them up first.

[@randomvids5883]

I found a Kirby heritage two legend with all the tools the shampooer and all you name it add a garage sale......for TEN DOLLARS!!!!!

[@deltaboy767]

Just for your Empire of the Kirby Heritage II used to use paper bags they just recently started using HEPA filter bags I've owned the Heritage to since it was released in 1984 and back then there was no such thing as HEPA filtration or micro magic so all these things that you're showing our upgrades to the original Heritage to

[@michaelc9128]

Heck I got a kirby G5 and I owned it since 2010 and runs great no issues and after 7 years replaced my 1st belt

[@PerformanceReviews]

Glad to hear that it's lasted for you. Ideally you should change your belt about every 1-3 months

[@couragebagge8545]

I own a 1989 Kirby heritage 2 legend 2 vacuum cleaner I restore it.

[@edbarker8636]

And I got mine for free but the person master handle tilt lash up so it cost me $100 in repair runs like brand new and definitely superior to the centria and the G4

[@therandomprojectchannel3246]

I like your style I have a Kirby heritage ii original (not legend) and it still works great but I think the motor is going.

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

Order new armature 114973 and field 103981 (six wires).

[@stevehoward7176]

Tell me about my G4 ; compare and contrast. Thanx

[@PerformanceReviews]

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[@christhevancura9113]

The avalir has more lft and airflow

[@PerformanceReviews]

+chris the vancura very slightly due to the mini emptier design

[@edbarker8636]

Well the cavalier is quite advanced from them but to each his own

[@MysteryManBob]

why did you end the video before showing the newer kirby performing against the old one and the dyson

[@PerformanceReviews]

Ran Out of Battery

[@edbarker8636]

There are not major differences but they're definitely are improvements over the years

[@its-amemegatron.9521]

Even though I like the G series Kirbys I don't get why the outer bags are so much small than the Heritage.

[@darkhallucination]

And the outer bag is much thinner than the Heritage series.

[@Billy_Darley]

dont use youtube to smooth out your videos folks. makes em look all warped and wavy. i learned that the hard way in the past.

[@SilverSprings95]

The Heritage Vacuum has a Red light underneath the handle.. Did the indicator on the heritage die or was that how it was design

[@PerformanceReviews]

It just dim and doesn't show up on camera.

[@johnerikson7094]

I wonder why Kirby and Royal are the only 2 vacuum companies left that use the outward facing fan, bag to the side design that dates back to the early days of electricity.

[@PerformanceReviews]

Because bypass Motors are superior in all ways.

[@johnerikson7094]

Performance Reviews well even then, I wonder why of the direct air styles, the fan facing the bottom is just as common if not more than the newer style direct air machines (think Oreck). I know that Kirby and Royal were the only ones to have such an old design by the 1940s/1950s (well... there was Hoover who tried it with the junior, but that’s another story), so I guess the answer could remain a mystery. You have a valid point though, bypass does come with its benefits! I mean I’ve never heard of a bypass machine that needed some converter to use tools (okay, well again with Hoover....).

[@DFX4509B]

@@johnerikson7094 Some of their models have a diversion valve for the hose now, eg. the Windtunnel 3 High Performance, which is actually a pretty good idea. Have the valve turned to 'floor,' and air has a shorter path to travel between the floor nozzle and the collection bin and/or bag, minimizing airflow losses in comparison to simply connecting the hose to the nozzle outlet and calling it a day, while you can divert airflow to the hose by turning a dial as needed. Kinda gives off a vibe of a clean-air update to how the Elite line handled their hoses.

[@benjaminlarson3613]

They use the same fan on classic omega to today the g3 internals are same as avalier ...g3 and g4 same g5-UG same sentria to avalier same

[@Bunkysworkshop]

What type of bag do you think is better ? The paper bag or cloth micro filtration for a Kirby? I also have been told that there is a brush roll for the Kirby...One is a soft bristles and one stiff bristles. Is the true?

[@PerformanceReviews]

+craigsclocks always use a HEPA bag whenever possible in any vacuum. I'm unaware of a soft brush for Kirby but I wouldn't be surprised if they made such a thing

[@mattjones7621]

On the Generation series, you can get a variety of roller brushes. They make the standard kind, oblique (stiffer bristles), delicate (soft white bristles) and one for pets. I have tried them all and I personally prefer the oblique. If you have a lot of antique/ delicate rugs, you might use the delicate brush. If you have a lot of hairy animals, or people with long hair, you want the pet roller brush. If you have a mixture of carpet, rugs and hard flooring, the standard or oblique would work. It's a matter of choice.

[@jeandrebotha5819]

What do you use to polish the machines so nicely?

[@PerformanceReviews]

See my video on polishing Kirby's

[@jeandrebotha5819]

@@PerformanceReviews Thanks.

[@robertcraven1771]

Have a heritage I, it works flawlessly- is there any way to convert it to accept the newer style bag?

[@PerformanceReviews]

Yes but it will cost you ! The Kirby 2HD bag and Mini emptier,fill tube . Will be the parts you need.

[@robertcraven1771]

Thanks!

[@nattybushdoctor9021]

im looking for a Dual 80 rebuilt. Got one?

[@JasonsGuideToThings]

Are the hose attachments the same also?

[@PerformanceReviews]

the hose is not the same ,but all Kirby attachments are 1 1/4 " fit . so you can interchange most tools.

[@TheVacuumWizard]

the only reson I use my g4 more then my harritage is I have super thick shag carpet in my living room

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

You could also use a Classic 1CR, Classic Omega 1CB, Classic III 2CB or Tradition 3CB, if also with the Shag King.

[@Cleaning_Hero]

Doesn’t the Avalir have higher airflow with its improved mini emptor design?

[@PerformanceReviews]

By 10-20 cfm not any significant numbers

[@fightsandfinance7570]

@@PerformanceReviews lol thats pretty significant ...Isnt that like 10-20%? I'm looking to buy a Kirby ...lol

[@jefclarrich185]

I am a Kirby collector and just have never felt the generation series ever. Give me anything before and I would be happy.

[@derekmacieski3992]

I have a g6 but really want a heritage

[@Casey-uk3wy]

If I had to choose. Think I'd rather have a G4.

[@Parasite_Eve_1776]

you don't need to replace the self propel if it breaks, thats why there is a netrual and it has two motors so it doesn't take away power

[@fleetknightgreywolf7795]

Vladow F actually the internal belt if supposedly warranted for the first forty years of ownership to the ORIGINAL owner depending upon factors...is the self propel belt/lifetime belt

[@johnerikson7094]

There is actually only 1 motor, the tech drive actually runs off the motor.

[@fleetknightgreywolf7795]

john erikson same you are the one who is correct

[@fleetknightgreywolf7795]

HEY that's came out in nineteen EIGHTY *SEVEN!!!*

[@dokici]

I am using a ”high end” Samsung vacuum cleaner bought from Walmart almost 20 years ago!!! For the colossal sum of 150$!! Also 3-4 times a year I take my carpets to a pressure wash station for ”professional” cleaning! Kirby is a scam!

[@kidcharlemagne807]

Just bought a heritage 2 for 25 bucks and it came with a bunch of stuff

[@kd0duj]

I have a 1987 Kirby Heritage 2

[@Games.Gadgets.Sports]

Bought new availir for 799....love it

[@topfin8441]

Why buy a Kirby Heritage 2 when you can buy a Dual Sanitronic 50? Why buy a Dual Sanitronic 50 When you can get a 112? Why buy a 112 when you can get a 1C? For real tough all Kirby’s make for very good vacuums where from the 30s or the 10s.

[@jeremyd2003]

Does the Heritage 1 take the same bags?

[@PerformanceReviews]

It takes different bags but it's easy enough to retrofit the elbow that the bag connects to the Heritage 1 to use the newer style bags.

[@jeremyd2003]

Performance Reviews I saw that. About to by the part today.

[@dannyboy9254]

that heritage looks like a royal vaccum

[@theanalogkid2778]

I compared my omega with a new belt lubricated brushroll and the same with my G6 I found the G6 to be stronger (btw G6 is the same as an Avalir just less lift)

[@PerformanceReviews]

Mr. Krusty Krab do you believe that I am unfamiliar with the G6/g2000 ?

[@theanalogkid2778]

Performance Reviews no I know you do know what they are just other people who don't know g3-avalir 2 is the same shit

[@theanalogkid2778]

Performance Reviews btw Mr Krusty krab? lol

[@cynthiarascon5179]

i spent $150 on the brand new avalir and the warranty was handed into my hand no questions asked

[@PerformanceReviews]

That's a Nice Deal !

[@cryrichter]

How did you get it so cheap

[@910iva]

Impossible,

[@TheVacuumWizard]

I also have a g siers tho

[@logansblastzone2539]

The Kirby company started in 1914

[@veronicahawthorne3452]

So true! This is exactly how I feel. The newer Kirbys are way too heavy with the transmissions. I have a G4 and G5 but always go to my Heritage ll..way easier to push. Quieter also than my Gs. I would never ever spend $2000+ dollars on a new Kirby! People out there should do their research before considering buying a brand new one.

[@ollyvass]

Veronica Hawthorne why you lying ?

[@vdubccvr6guy904]

A heritage 2 isn't easier to push

[@couragebagge8545]

What if my kirby heritage 2 Grey fan still in great shape?

[@PerformanceReviews]

Don't worry it's got cracks on the backside of the fan

[@mattjones7621]

I have serviced some that had a gray Lexan fan in decent shape, before; but, the newer fans are way better in the end. What happens over time is they get stress fractures and can explode under pressure. I had one do that to me on a Heritage 84. I had it in hose mode and the fan broke for no reason. The newer fans are more balanced and are tougher than the aluminum and Lexan fans.

[@jaydenrosier6641]

You are not the only one who has that Kirby

[@vacuumcleanerwithagun]

I want Kirby to make a cheaper model without the self propel and market it as cheaper but that will never happen

[@denvercyclist]

Try a Sebo x4

[@vacuumcleanerwithagun]

Denver cyclist I have a x1 I love it I just don't think it grooms the carpet well but I'm always amazed how much it picks up for a second floor vacuum

[@580678]

Sebo uprights dont deep clean .

[@theanalogkid2778]

Riccar radiance better then a Kirby

[@580678]

It really isnt

[@supchurch8055]

You buy the Avalier . The reason ... Keep the company offering exelent equiptment in business .

[@PerformanceReviews]

Scott fetzer is a giant company. They make brush rollers for other vacuums aka Cleveland wood products. Chemicals ,gas motors& just about everything. Google that name you say they're not going out of business anytime soon. from a company like that you should expect more than 30 you're all recycled design from Kirby.

[@edbarker8636]

I have G4 centria avalair

[@kernsykirby8714]

Why buy a Kirby g3when you can buy a clasic 3!!!

[@buronrobison4554]

one day those brushes will wear out in the motor

[@PerformanceReviews]

yes but you can still buy all the parts from Kirby ,

[@anthonylawrence60]

so you put some new ones in and it will run for another 50 years

[@edbarker8636]

Avalar is the best of the bunch

[@kareemcullins1589]

Go to

[@RoofTopPigeon]

I Can answer the Question to: Why buy a Kirby Avalir? ANSWER: The Avalir; has been Awarded "Gold" From the Carpet and Rug Institute! :-)

[@PerformanceReviews]

There are lots of other vacuums that out clean Kirbys . Lots of them have the Platinum seal of approval.

[@nonig3898]

Kirby, The greatest vacuum ever!

[@alansponseller4998]

Herritage is 30 yrs old! That's rubbish! It's like an old car, put an airflow meter on...

[@PerformanceReviews]

You're entitled to your opinion but the facts are in the air flow difference and suction difference are marginal. It's really not like an old car . Kirby's latest design was designed 3 years after this and they've been using it ever since.

[@joshpeters6579]

let's buy a $1,500. loud kirby vacuum and only use it twice a month Lol. what a joke

[@910iva]

Josh Peters they r worth it, they save carpet so u don't have to replace it ever, so no 15k spent on hardwood. They take all the dirt off the carpet from the pad and the shampoo is awesome

[@910iva]

Also, they last forever, a retail vaccine will break within a year or two guaranteed. In ten years most people buy 5 . Dyson and shark is terrible too. They do as good of a job as a cheap bissel. I see it everyday

[@chevyman5235]

How can you only clean your house TWICE a month 🤣😂😂 u probably own a plastic dyson or a plastic shark LMAO #KirbyStrong 🇺🇸👌💪🤜🏻

[@erikbaran7197]

Let the suckers buy new, you can find used ones dirt cheap. I have my Mom's old heritage 2, which cost me nothing, and it still runs great. I also picked up a G series at a pawn shop for $65, it looks brand new and I love the super long hose. Now, one is upstairs and one downstairs so I don't need to carry them up and down. Say what you will about their business practices, which you don't have to deal with buying used, they do make a machine that lasts forever.

[@chevyman5235]

Nice try bud BUT The AVALIR System IS selling like crazy nowadays lol 😂 its like if your tryna tell me to buy a 1980s honda instead of the new 2017 honda because its the same thing. LMAO 😂

[@PerformanceReviews]

Really rainbow out sells Kirby. And then the rest of the industry outsells everybody else. The point of this videos Kirby desperately needs a new design. In this case the 2HD is a superior machine.

[@anthonylawrence60]

As the guy said if you only look beyond the bells and whistles its basically the same machine