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@theduderolls Ай бұрын
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@anubusx
@anubusx Ай бұрын
Steve Rogers is the only Captain America.
@BrunoDias1234
@BrunoDias1234 Ай бұрын
he Falcon as Captain America was never popular in the comic books. They didn’t sell. This will be a disaster, I will not see it
@guilhermedias18064
@guilhermedias18064 Ай бұрын
I think that Captain America works because he stands for what America could be, not what it necessarily is.
@onewinged07
@onewinged07 Ай бұрын
Not just what America should be. But he is someone who we should all try to be. An ideal that seem so big and seemingly too perfect, we should keep trying to be.
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris Ай бұрын
He stands for americas morals. Modern folk have been indoctrinated by revisionist history to not understand that.
@aesop1451
@aesop1451 Ай бұрын
And that's why Superman sucks and Captain America is better. Even though he has a similar personality to Cap, Superman's incredible power is a huge temptation for him. In Superman IV he unilaterally rids the world of nuclear weapons. A lot of Superman riders don't like how Frank Miller portrayed Superman, but he was right. Superman loves giving speeches at the UN and even decides to become a journalist after witnessing a tribal war in Africa. He definitely sees himself as a citizen of the world more than an American citizen and respects "the rule of law" (aka the status quo). Unlike Cap that will stand up to the government.
@LarryBonson
@LarryBonson 24 күн бұрын
​@@onewinged07In reality it is impossible.
@DoomGuy69420
@DoomGuy69420 24 күн бұрын
Why he's my favorite.
@kamenrangerzeo8251
@kamenrangerzeo8251 Ай бұрын
Captain America, Optimus Prime and Superman are true heroes that embodies the value of what makes a good man fight for others and the freedom that they will defend for all life.
@matthewk4912
@matthewk4912 Ай бұрын
What about Luke Skywalker?
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire Ай бұрын
Yeah they are the big three. I'd add Luke Skywalker for four and Jean-Luc Picard if you wanna go for five.
@ryanmatthews3609
@ryanmatthews3609 Ай бұрын
only Optimus no one else.
@Doomer253
@Doomer253 Ай бұрын
Idk about Optimus Prime. He's kind of a raging homicidal maniac. lol
@matthewk4912
@matthewk4912 Ай бұрын
@@Doomer253 In the Bay movies yeah. But the enemies he faces are cartoonishly evil.
@M.R._BlueVO
@M.R._BlueVO Ай бұрын
I absolutely LOVE Steve Rogers. He's one of my favorite Marvel heroes (second only to Hawkeye). I'm not even an American, but I look up to him in the same way I do with Superman. He's always willing to stand up for what's right no matter what 🫡.
@tclark6989
@tclark6989 Ай бұрын
You have the same favorites as me.🤝
@Nocraza_Kram
@Nocraza_Kram Ай бұрын
May I ask why Hawkeye is your favorite over Cap? I ask mainly because I find it a bit rare for people to prefer the Master Archer over America's Shield.
@M.R._BlueVO
@M.R._BlueVO Ай бұрын
@@Nocraza_Kram Why is Hawkeye my favorite Marvel hero? I'm so glad you asked! So, you know how most people like Batman because he's capable of working with gods and aliens despite being a human being? That's part of why I love Hawkeye. Except, unlike Batman, he isn't overused & consistently put in overly ridiculous scenarios where he survives due to obvious plot armor. His archery feats in both the comics & films impressed me so much that I decided to practice the sport in high school. Clint Barton wasn't exposed to any extraordinary radiation. He has no X-gene, no mystical artifacts, and no bottomless bank account. He's just a human who's practiced, every single day. And yet, his skills are so effective that he's capable of teaming up with the Avengers, Defenders, Thunderbolts, etc without being a liability. He's even been the leader of the West Coast Avengers at one point. He's one of my favorite redemption characters as well, since he was originally a villain for Iron Man. But eventually changed his ways, joined Cap's Kooky Quartet and has remained a hero ever since. His dynamics with other heroes is also interesting to me, especially with Captain America being his mentor. Overall, I will always be inspired by Cap & Superman. But I relate to Clint more than I do with Spider-Man or Batman. Plus he's hella underappreciated these days.
@justinbarnes5277
@justinbarnes5277 19 күн бұрын
Same here dude! I’ve shot archery since Boy Scouts. Since I was 13…16 years now.
@justinbarnes5277
@justinbarnes5277 19 күн бұрын
I’ve been shooting archery for 16 years now is what I meant to say
@StraightOuttaLatveria
@StraightOuttaLatveria Ай бұрын
While Rogers is a rather large annoyance to Doom, I must admit, his will is admirable. Glory to Latveria!
@ClassicHeroYT
@ClassicHeroYT Ай бұрын
Holy sh** it's dr doom
@briansmith48
@briansmith48 Ай бұрын
😛... 🤠🇺🇲
@theramplocal
@theramplocal 8 күн бұрын
Dr doom is number 1! All else are number 2 or lower
@briansmith48
@briansmith48 7 күн бұрын
@@theramplocal . If it wasn't for Reed Richards I would agree. 😁
@j.m.l.m.
@j.m.l.m. Ай бұрын
Every single citizen of the United States should watch this video. Cap has always been my favorite superhero and seeing my feelings for him finally expressed is such a nice feeling. Thank you
@connormarchand6302
@connormarchand6302 Ай бұрын
Well I don’t know about everyone but I am at least ❤
@professorlogos5459
@professorlogos5459 Ай бұрын
Captain America is such a great character. He is one of my favorite iconic characters.
@Satellaview1889
@Satellaview1889 Ай бұрын
I honestly love the definition of patriotism as belief in principles rather than a nation. It shows how Cap believes in America, just not the America that is, rather the America that should be.
@Shonenboiss
@Shonenboiss Ай бұрын
I just love how Captain America is such an earnest/hopeful hero who’s able to inspire others bc of who he is which is an Person just trying to do the right thing
@marcusyates3044
@marcusyates3044 Ай бұрын
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@jslrnzrbntn
@jslrnzrbntn Ай бұрын
I'm into the Donna Troy, Wally West, Dick Grayson, Garth, and Roy Harper team, the original roster not the Cartoon Network one
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Ай бұрын
Why would you care what his teen titans fan fiction is?
@marcusyates3044
@marcusyates3044 Ай бұрын
@@aroccoification Because I like his videos
@marcusyates3044
@marcusyates3044 Ай бұрын
@@aroccoification It gives me ideas in stories, and how to make them right
@awesomebrosinc.2160
@awesomebrosinc.2160 Ай бұрын
​@@aroccoificationwhat a silly question
@HannahHill-ux2il
@HannahHill-ux2il Ай бұрын
Cap has alway been my favorite hero on the mcu. This video is a great tribute to him and what he's all about. Thank you!
@magnusprime962
@magnusprime962 Ай бұрын
Steve Rogers is a great character because he embodies the full version of 'My Country, Right or Wrong': If right, to be kept right. If wrong, to be set right. He'll stand for American values even if it means standing against the government and the majority of people. Characters like US Agent and Nuke might be enforcers of the government's will, but Steve Rogers will always be loyal to the principles the nation was founded upon. Principles that it has often failed to live up to, but ones no less worth pursuing. That's why we need characters like Steve; to remind us of who we ought to be. To inspire us to keep going and keep trying to be better.
@aesop1451
@aesop1451 Ай бұрын
And that's why Superman sucks and Captain America is better. Even though he has a similar personality to Cap, Superman's incredible power is a huge temptation for him. In Superman IV he unilaterally rids the world of nuclear weapons. A lot of Superman riders don't like how Frank Miller portrayed Superman, but he was right. Superman loves giving speeches at the UN and even decides to become a journalist after witnessing a tribal war in Africa. He definitely sees himself as a citizen of the world more than an American citizen and respects "the rule of law" (aka the status quo). Unlike Cap that will stand up to the government.
@alexferrana3979
@alexferrana3979 Ай бұрын
@@aesop1451 well, that's not really who Superman is. Canon Superman isn't a government's lapdog, and he isn't someone who's gonna enforce the law if that law is oppressive.
@aesop1451
@aesop1451 Ай бұрын
@@alexferrana3979 “Superman: Birthright” by Mark Waid is canon right? What are the political views of people that work for the New York Times or the Washington Post?
@d.n5287
@d.n5287 28 күн бұрын
​​@@aesop1451apparently it was originally non-cannon then adopted as canon in 2003, but between new 52 and dc rebirth we don't know if the origin of supes is still what was shown in birthright. Besides there's plenty of media where supes fights against the government, which usually happens when Luthor becomes president, (e.g superman and batman: public enemies). So if supes knows for certain the government can't be trusted, he will go against it.
@mcurran6505
@mcurran6505 Ай бұрын
"The Price of Freedom is high. It always has been. And It's a price I'm willing to pay." - Chris Evans (Steve Rogers), Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
@UltimateSpider1385
@UltimateSpider1385 Ай бұрын
Patriotic Quote from the Man out of time.
@AstroRayGun
@AstroRayGun Ай бұрын
it's really funny that you bring up the old captain america stealing a car then cut to the mcu version in the film where he also steals a car🤣
@tylerbertram7065
@tylerbertram7065 Ай бұрын
Captain America is my favorite Avenger because he doesn't represent what America is today, but what America could be.
@sampettit4500
@sampettit4500 Ай бұрын
Team Cap >>>>> Team Iron Man
@adityakumarjha8796
@adityakumarjha8796 Ай бұрын
Cap has always been my favorite superhero because as you said he always believes in doing the right thing and only he decides what is the right thing because he knows he is a good man. Same goes for my other 2 favorite heroes - Spiddy and Batman.
@mrmayo5905
@mrmayo5905 Ай бұрын
Honestly I think the argument that superheroes should do more than just defend the status quo is ignoring the important fact that superheroes are powerful, unaccountable individuals, and because of that they have no right to impose change. That’s how you end up with, well, villains. The reason superheroes often defend the status quo is really more selfless than smashing it, and allows for natural change to be brought about by the normal people they inspire to be better
@realchezboi
@realchezboi Ай бұрын
I'd argue often most superheroes are normal people, and the only way to change the status quo isn't through the abuse of their superpowers and terrorism. Most of them are already among some of the MOST influential people in their universes; symbols and icons, world leaders, the smartest scientists and people on earth, and billionaires. They have as much agency and right to change the world as much as a non super-powered civilian, politician or billionaire can, and often the most reason to do so because they often stand the most clearly against crime and the suffering of humanity, things they can do so much more against rather than just waiting around for another crime to happen.
@HandOn-c40009
@HandOn-c40009 Ай бұрын
let's be honest here, the only reason the status quo will never change is because superhero story are never allowed to end, if the superhero are proactive and change the status quo it will revert back in a year or two. no matter what happen gotham will always be crime ridden city, peter parker would always be struggling to pay rent and so on...
@edoardobrocca7985
@edoardobrocca7985 Ай бұрын
@@HandOn-c40009 that's why stories like Invincible can be so good. They have an end
@MyCarnageExtreme
@MyCarnageExtreme Ай бұрын
Agreed! Their actions can change the world and people around the world, but they will never impose this change or their values on other people, that's what makes them heroes. They don't abuse their powers, instead they choose to help others, they don't think they're better than others and that's what makes them better. If there's a fire, earthquake, or if there's a criminal doing crime and no police around, they'll lay a helping hand because they can, and when a supervillain shows up they will step in because normal people would just die fighting a villain with powers. Discussions about how super-heroes only defend the status quo often miss the mark in my opinion because more times than not is people putting a lot of responsability and pressure on super-heroes as if they don't give their all doing what they normally do. Like, what they do is not easy, and they do because they WANT, but people feel entitled to demand even more as if heroes are not putting their lives on the line every other day.
@fredfry5100
@fredfry5100 26 күн бұрын
Not to be a bother, but that's actually a storyline most examined through Superman. It's like his "take away guns" argument. If he makes this radical change, it will lead to villainy.
@mosesgerak4403
@mosesgerak4403 Ай бұрын
Captain America will always be my favorite Hero because he is everything I aspire to be.
@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE
@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE Ай бұрын
The real life Captain America & inspiration for the character is All Time Great Hall Of Fame Boxer Joe Louis. What makes Captain America work is that idealogically he's Marvel's Superman.
@AwesomeJalapeno
@AwesomeJalapeno Ай бұрын
its messed up how we live in an age where you can be hated just for being a good person.
@baronmarrow076
@baronmarrow076 Ай бұрын
It's kinda funny that the Captain America video is 19:40 long
@ethinwhite3454
@ethinwhite3454 Ай бұрын
And this is why Cap is my favorite character.
@shubhangpareek3642
@shubhangpareek3642 Ай бұрын
Man these characters, cap and Ironman, both correct in their eyes, both trying to do what's best for everyone yet so different, sides of the same coin. PURE POETRY
@quietchap
@quietchap Ай бұрын
Blasting this as I main Cap in Marvel Rivals 😂
@KaizerSozaye
@KaizerSozaye Ай бұрын
Captain America & Wonder Woman are the true GOATS
@colton7321
@colton7321 Ай бұрын
THE BEST AVENGER!
@garretthildebrandt428
@garretthildebrandt428 28 күн бұрын
"I am defined by my family. The purpose of everything I do can be distilled back down to that. And you... You are a good man. You do... good things. Tony, however, is not as simple as us. He's a future man trapped in the now. A prisoner raging against the slow crawl of human evolution. His relationships, his morality, his ethics... all of these are highly adaptable. Malleable to what he would call the 'greater good' and mankind's survival and undeniable progress." - Reed Richards
@meep9231
@meep9231 19 күн бұрын
Seeing all these videos about certain marvel heroes/villains will always put a smile on my face. Also speaking of which, I think a video highlighting respect for Quicksilver would be pretty cool to see.
@royo1969
@royo1969 Ай бұрын
Captain America is loyal to America and the American dream not whoever is currently in office. My personal opinion is Steve went against character at the end of Endgame by going back in time and living with Peggy. Like he said the man that went into the ice isn’t the one that came out.
@orrinfreeman5672
@orrinfreeman5672 Ай бұрын
Thank you for adding the quote from EMH Cap. That's where my mind went when you mentioned Steve's faith in Individuals. So happy to hear Brian Bloom as cap again in the new Marvel Rivals game.
@Iliadic
@Iliadic Ай бұрын
Captain America stands for truth, justice, and the American way... Wait
@ZACKBLACK-tu9ph
@ZACKBLACK-tu9ph Ай бұрын
We need a why Robin or nightwing works
@superkid801
@superkid801 Ай бұрын
Great video. I love Captain America whether he is Steve, Sam or anyone else. You really hit the points! I do enjoy Steve as a character and his journey! Love all of his films, looking very forward to the new Cap film next year!
@bacon4life314
@bacon4life314 Ай бұрын
Steve and Sam🐐🐐🐐
@dylanmalone14
@dylanmalone14 16 күн бұрын
Captain America and Superman have one thing common that makes them who they truly are They don’t have to be relevant, they have to be inspiring
@popcultureasylum7456
@popcultureasylum7456 Ай бұрын
Captain America is my favorite superhero of all time and is actually one of my role models. You did a great job explaining why he's so great
@mricantakeapunch3231
@mricantakeapunch3231 Ай бұрын
I always saw that out of the big 3 heroes films (Ironman Captain America Thor) Captain America's movies were taken seriously ❤
@vj.phillips
@vj.phillips Ай бұрын
This is a great video, Mitch. Been a fan for a while now.
@kingfishproductions3476
@kingfishproductions3476 Ай бұрын
I know U don’t live in the states, so I know you don’t understand how much I need this video right now thank you Mitch ❤
@_TheHighlights_
@_TheHighlights_ Ай бұрын
your commentary is incredible. you take a deeper political and philosophical look at these superheroes more than anyone ive ever seen
@MarcusMeals
@MarcusMeals Ай бұрын
Everytime I watch your videos, you remind me why we need comic books films again♥️😅 But seriously...continue making this amazing videos.
@friedrodent112
@friedrodent112 Ай бұрын
Captain America would be best friends with Optimus Prime, because they both agree that freedom is the right of all sentient beings, but even though he would side with Liberty Prime, he might disagree with Liberty Prime’s methods, because Liberty Prime wants to destroy Communism at all costs, whereas Captain America would want to destroy Communism with as few casualties as possible.
@bowserbreaker2515
@bowserbreaker2515 Ай бұрын
I like both of these characters because when done right, they're inspiring. They are what we should strive to be, people we should look up to. Cap may be a super soldier, but he's still a regular man. Optimus Prime is an alien robot, but he is more human than you would think.
@iraford5788
@iraford5788 Ай бұрын
Captain America and Optimus prime have actually teamed up before in the Avengers/Transformers crossover comics.
@timothygooding9544
@timothygooding9544 Ай бұрын
change itself seems to be a big misreading of cap its individualism vs. control Hydra wanted control, sheild went too far for control (reguardless of hydra influence it was wrong), and stark tried to put the control of heros into a governing force "The safest hands are still our own" Over time the status quo has become control, rights and individual power get worn down over time, and if it fails to self regulate it will require revolution When it became the status quo, steve left.
@donzeladeferro3196
@donzeladeferro3196 Ай бұрын
We are the products of a society that judges us before we are even born, of circumstances, of our failures and successes, choices and opportunities. However, Captain America, Superman and Optimus Prime are kind beings because they were meant to be. They had the opportunity to become what they are from creation. Being a good man with a pure heart is not a talent or even a merit, it's a privilege that few can have.
@Michael-fb1rl
@Michael-fb1rl 28 күн бұрын
Well done, a very professionally designed video.
@VikingMale
@VikingMale Ай бұрын
Why Captain America Works…. Because the government doesn’t pay him to be a superhero?
@DeejonLoy
@DeejonLoy Ай бұрын
I do want to caution "locking" Cap in to strictly being "Pro Status Quo" as the ideas and values he defends were considered radical in John Locke's era, with Voltaire, Paine, and to an extent Washington being the radicals of their day. So Cap, like American Conservatives, are not Anti-Change, rather they are what Tony is at the start of Endgame: protect the good that one has and make sure the proposed changes are actually helpful.
@227someguy
@227someguy Ай бұрын
I got an ad for Captain America: New World Order for this video.
@0kdevv_
@0kdevv_ 3 күн бұрын
So relevant to 2025 America and you’re not even from here. I almost want you to change the title of this video because it applies so well outside of just cap, really insightful especially now after mackies statements. 10/10
@geraldstephens6612
@geraldstephens6612 Ай бұрын
Did Simon & Kirby do any interviews about Captain America?
@mrduckman8381
@mrduckman8381 Ай бұрын
I really like how not only the MCU managed to de-age Captain America as a hero, but how they managed how to de-age and contestualize him in the word of the MCU
@marcaddow7326
@marcaddow7326 Ай бұрын
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@mrwhatcanido4942
@mrwhatcanido4942 Ай бұрын
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@CryptidZeker415
@CryptidZeker415 Ай бұрын
Huge captain America but the one thing I disagree with in this video, is your analysis on John Walker. He is not a bully, he was chosen cause he was the best soldier America had that had an outstanding record in his service(many of which, included hostage rescuing). I mean heck, he even mentioned part of his test to prove him a worthy candidate for cap, was him jumping over the grenade. When he became captain America, all he wanted to do was do the right thing which at that point, was stoping the terrorist group, the Flagsmashers, who are literal super powered terroristed who have blown up buildings, killed their hostages, attacked and killed soldiers and etc. Even that scene you are you using when he is yelling at that man, that was because he was harboring the Flagsmashers and spat on caps face. The show tried portraying John as the bad guy and Sam as the morally just but the more you look at it, the more you see the reverse happened. All John wanted to do was stop the Flagsmashers. Nothing he was doing was being abusive or overstepping his authority
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 Ай бұрын
John specifically jumped on a dummy grenade knowing it was fake, the opposite of Steve's impulsive self-sacrifice plays. While John is objectively flawed and transitions in and out of an anti-villain role in the series, he is still an interesting character in the sense that while he superficially has many of Steve's traits, they're accompanied by flaws of insecurity and jealousy that tend to outshine what positive qualities, and yet he still finds redemption in his desire to be a hero more than soldier following orders and trying to please his country, going beyond his desire for validation to be genuinely brave, honorable and self-sacrificing. While Steve's desperation to prove himself to have purpose never came at the expense of his sense of honor or humility, that isn't true for Walker, but the fact that he still manages to do good despite is what makes him compelling, moreso than Sam, who the show paints as correct despite his dismissive views on the severity of the terrorists actions or the danger they pose while he judges politicians for not doing more to end strife in the world, acting as if he and other super-abled ("enhanced" in this universe including people like him with advanced abilities, not just super-powered beings) didn't fail to stop a universe shaking catastrophe and the blame falls to the very much not super-abled officials in the world that very much cannot change borders with one phone call. It's for reasons like this that Sam as Captain America isn't trending as much as Disney perhaps hoped and why despite people expecting Thunderbolts to be bland, at least have the entertainment factor of various anti-hero and anti-villain characters from various corners of this franchise's "grounded" parts interacting and adventuring together, especially John and Bucky.
@kishin901
@kishin901 27 күн бұрын
I think the biggest sin Walker has committed was probably just not being properly equipped and prepared for being Captain America, which is a tall order for anyone honestly. People go on about Walker killing the one Flag Smasher, which I get, but he was having a mental breakdown from the Flag Smashers killing his best friend on top of everything else going on, it wasn't out of calculated malice or ego. Also this was not just some bum off the street that you can slap handcuffs on and handover to the police, these guys are breaking your entire rib cage with a minimal effort kick, and they were not giving up until they were put down. I'm sure all the terrorists Rogers game overed would have loved an opportunity to surrender too, but we don't talk about that. That's not even going into the fact that Sam and Bucky turned down the shield, so they shrugged responsibility and it had to go to someone else. They also operated without government sanction, freed an international terrorist, and allowed for the Flag Smashers to escape multiple times. Any criticism for Walker operating outside his jurisdiction or because he's operating based on national interest that I've seen is hog wash, and not just cause Bucky and Sam, lest we forget Wakanda were operating outside their jurisdiction and immediately went for trying to maim or outright kill Walker when he tried to intervene in what is effectively an international incident. Do I think Walker was a good stand in for Rogers? No, those are massive shoes to fill and he just was not ready for that level, cause when he starts at least he's literally just an above average guy with a shield, however, the criticism he gets I think is largely undeserved. Honestly I think Bucky would have been the best fit, as it would have let him shed the Winter Soldier identity and given him a better path to Redemption. Sam taking up the shield never made much sense narratively cause it's not like he's got anything to be ashamed of being the Falcon, nor was it really necessary. The vibranium Falcon suit was cool though.
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 27 күн бұрын
@ That's part of why I find it interesting that while Brave New World is getting a bunch of negative attention even before its release, Thunderbolts, while being met more with indifference due to overall not appearing very innovative, John himself and the prospect of him interacting with other anti-heroes and anti-villain is giving the film a vague level of appeal. Part of the reason for this is that while Falcon And The Winter Soldier (and presumably Brave New World) had a disproportionate way of measuring wether a character should be routed for, almost telling its audience who was right and who was wrong despite the context (and in some cases ignoring context and shirking nuance) to that end, the character of John Walker inherently comes with more interesting nuance of not being an Evil Captain America, but being a version of Steve that not only was never disabled, but also was raised in a world without Steve's value of virtue and freedom over order, and is deeply insecure over that struggle over being made to do bad things while knowing they are in the service of order. There is simply more to say and explore with John than Sam in regards to inheriting the Captain America mantle, because Sam ends up emulating not only Steve's value of virtue and freedom, but also the rigid, stubborn, sanctimonious side of Steve that ignores compromises and was ultimately incompatible with the amoral, complex world around him, and the narrative allows him to do that without ever truly challenging him morally, only saying he should have that responsibility and mantle so someone less virtuous and willful doesn't. All of Sam's speeches on politicians doing better mean nothing without addressing that complexity and John's character directly addresses it by having him struggle over what doing right even means, largely lacking Steve's independent mind and will, but still having that capacity for good.
@kishin901
@kishin901 27 күн бұрын
@@callmev3531 I don't feel like they did Sam much of a favor having one of the biggest struggles of the show for him being the inability to secure a loan for fixing up his family's fishing boat. By all rights he should have had no issue with that. If they really wanted to make his story interesting, they basically could have given all of Walker's internal conflict to Sam, which just makes it so weird that Sam doesn't really have much growth outside of deciding to be the arbiter of who becomes captain America after he decides he doesn't want to be. There actually could have been a great dynamic between Walker, Sam and Bucky, where they still could have been hesitant with him, but realize he's trying to do his best and live up to Roger's ideals. He doesn't need to even stay Captain America, he could realize he's just not the type of man Rogers is and he needs to be a new hero and live by his own ideals, with a mutual understanding with Sam and Bucky. I still maintain that Bucky should have been the new Captain America, the symbolism and growth would have been so much better. As for Sam, I feel like his character's main conflict could have been tied into the fishing ship of they're determined to keep that as a plot point, but instead of managing to fix it up or operate it, he realizes he can't just standby and live a normal life, not yet at least, not while the world is in turmoil. So he keeps being the Falcon, or maybe something more patriotically themed, but he helps with rebuilding the world in any case by trying to embody the ideals he's seen. There's just so much more they could have done with the show, not that it's terrible. Of all the Marvel shows, I think it was one of the best.
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 27 күн бұрын
@ Agreed. It isn't awful, just...lacking nuance and development in certain areas. For Bucky as Captain America, if they'd gone with him inheriting Steve's mantle and had Walker be his opposite, they'd arguably first to have to have had Steve not explicitly hand the shield to anyone in particular with the intent on inheriting his mantle, only continuing to fight for a world in need of virtue, a world more willing to discard it in exchange for order. They'd also have to address Bucky's decades long list of personal issues he explicitly is going to therapy for, issues that would interfere with him being a worthy candidate to inherit this larger than life symbol of virtue, things he can't fully embody because he isn't like Steve. He is cynical where Steve is idealistic, he is aggressive where Steve tries to be peaceful, he got to watch the world change over the years where Steve experienced his world's disappearance as if only a day had gone by. Even in the comics, Bucky is only able to replicate Steve's capabilities due to also being a super-being, but not his exact values or status, ultimately serving as a placeholder for Steve to return (ironic since Chris Evans is apparently returning for Avengers: Doomsday). Essentially, they'd have to address Bucky's mental health and decades worth of shame and grief before just making him a new Captain America, but as it stands, Bucky works as is. Even without inheriting Steve's mantle, him dealing with those issues and learning to have the courage and humility to face his shame and allow himself joy and companionship is compelling enough, and it sets him up perfectly fighting alongside other super-abled operatives and assassins with tragic pasts similar to his own in Thunderbolts, being the one that helps connect and guide them just as Steve once guided him, and he's doing all that not as Captain America, not as a symbol of any higher values, just....Bucky, just himself, the former Winter Soldier, the former Fist Of HYDRA, the former Howling Commando, because that's all he really needs to be, himself.
@professorlogos5459
@professorlogos5459 Ай бұрын
Stark is Thomas Hobbes. Steve is John Locke.
@calebreynolds9183
@calebreynolds9183 23 күн бұрын
If cap was pro status quo then he’d be supporting Jim Crowe
@RichardFay
@RichardFay Ай бұрын
One of the commentators pointed out that Steve didn't make the serum, which is true. OTOH - if Someone is going to get the serum, was there another candidate less selfish and arrogant, or more determined, brave, and dedicated to protecting the "little guy?" Erskine couldn't find one, and that's why he picked Steve. As you note, Steve is not a Nationalist. He believes that the country is great because of its ideals, even when the reality doesn't live up to them. One of those ideals is that a just government serves, and derives authority from, the people - and he's seen firsthand what happens when governments abuse their power. So he'll fight for the government when he thinks it's right, and oppose it when he thinks it's wrong. He sees that as his obligation as a citizen. Of course that attitude could make him a vigilante or even a terrorist, but that's where the "Good Man" part comes into this; he hates bullies and won't become one. Also he was never a criminal; the Accords were not a law because they hadn't been ratified, Ross wasn't a judge, and even if he had been he wouldn't have the authority to imprison or execute people without a trial.
@garysalyer4098
@garysalyer4098 26 күн бұрын
Great script...well done!
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris Ай бұрын
Cap was the weakest among men, then became the weakest super hero among super heroes. But he never changes regardless of circumstances. His refusal to change based on his circumstances is what makes him good.
@Unbrickable27
@Unbrickable27 Ай бұрын
W video. W character.
@SepRoyle
@SepRoyle Ай бұрын
I like captain America 🇺🇸 😏 😍 😎
@UltimateSpider1385
@UltimateSpider1385 Ай бұрын
Captain America works because he's the embodiment of Freedom, liberty, and Justice. every day, we still continue to deal with corruption, war, and politics due to the actions of people willing to benefit from their own ambitions and their nature to change or improve the world. Ultron is a good example of what happens when you try to "put a suit of armor around the world". Captain America represents the status quo because his will to not only stand up for the little guy, but also live up to the ideals of Freedom despite questing orders to save the people he cares about. Sometimes, it doesn't take a Futurist to understand the mistakes of the world, but a Patriot. Despite all the power that a man is capable of, in his heart, he's still a good man. That's who Captain America is.
@donzeladeferro3196
@donzeladeferro3196 Ай бұрын
What an idiotic response full of hatred, presumption and arrogance. What's the point of being a good man if you don't inspire others to be like you?
@kenarbes
@kenarbes 9 күн бұрын
What's sad and funny at the same time, is that "suit of armor around the world" would not have stopped Thanos. The homicidal maniac, Thanos, could TELEPORT thanks to the Space Stone. Or the Reality Stone could have removed Stark's shield around the Earth. Too bad no one told him that at the beginning of End Game.
@martinsonderegger5903
@martinsonderegger5903 Ай бұрын
This video is so important in our time where the governments in many countries have lost their way and instead of being patriotic are nationalist at any price. A like and sub from me. This video should go viral. & Could you also do a video about Sam - from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier where his belief is the belief in the community compared to Steve's belief is in people
@DavidRosariojr-xh6bw
@DavidRosariojr-xh6bw Ай бұрын
Great Video. Beautiful
@mrmusickhimself
@mrmusickhimself 12 күн бұрын
I can't believe they wrote the 1990 Captain America as a carjacking wimp who fakes nausea to abandon people who HELP HIM. Absolutely ridiculous, that movie bored me so hard as a kid, and you should never be bored watching Cap do his thing.
@Vampishandrew
@Vampishandrew Ай бұрын
Been waiting for this vid and you delivered 🙏
@astro-ko3cu
@astro-ko3cu Ай бұрын
Why wonder woman or flash works pls
@Randomdudefromtheinternet
@Randomdudefromtheinternet Ай бұрын
(10:38) "Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism" Such words couldn't be better stated considering the current political scenario.
@MrSupertallblackman
@MrSupertallblackman Ай бұрын
John Walker did nothing wrong. The framing of him in this video is completely contrary to what actually happened in TFAW. In fact Walker made a point to try to work with Bucky and Sam mutiple times and they met him with hostility.
@esotericbingus5902
@esotericbingus5902 Ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment. If anybody was bullied in the entire show it was John Walker. The rest of the video is decent but the differences mentioned between him and Steve Rogers are just so wrong
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 Ай бұрын
5:22, Still, what essentially separates Walker from Steve is that one fought for a world where order never came at the expense of virtue while the other fights for a world that easily discards virtue to preserve order. He may be honorable and tries to be humble, but insecurity, jealousy, the desire to please his country and his bosses overwhelms him, which reflects Steve's own flaws that he kept in check with his compassionate and generous nature, balancing out his own pride when it came to his sense of moral superiority and that almost greedy desire to serve and to sacrifice to give his life purpose, especially to escape the emptiness of having lost any chance at readjusting to civilian life after the years he spent in service. Far from being a failed character because the writers treated him unfavorably (which doesn't change the fact that villains can be compelling characters regardless of an author's perception of them), John is a fascinating addition to MCU Captain America's mythos because of those traits of Steve's that he lacks, that value of honor, justice, truth, humility, freedom and courage that transcends any one nation or loyalty to any one group, instead being primarily loyal to the interests of a country that may not always have the best interests or intentions, be he lacks the same independence Steve had to be willing to truly challenge the governments of the world and do what he thought was right by his often idealistic and perhaps sometimes unrealistic standards of honor and justice. The issue of the show is trying to paint Walker as being more villainous than he is (which especially doesn't work since despite his villainous behavior of intimidating suspects out of insecurity, publicly executing a surrendering enemy out of impulsive, vengeful rage and lying to his family that he'd avenged their child, he ultimately ends the show endangering himself to save people) and Sam as more wise and humble than he actually is, Sam who ignores the implications of a super-abled (though not specifically "super-powered") individual such as himself judging a handful of politicians on factors they only have so much control over (factors caused by the Avengers' failures affecting civilizations across the universe) while dismissing the severity of legitimately super-powered terrorists attempting thinking they could rampage political change into existence as if that would make people listen to them. The attempted messaging falls flat as its themes ignore the logic of the plot. Either way, John's return in Thunderbolts opposite Bucky looks to be the set up of an, if anything, entertaining adventure, while Captain America 4 is projected as being an overly edited mess, while Chris Evans' proposed return in Avengers Doomsday suggests that the legitimacy of Disney's attempts to solidify Sam's position as a new Captain America will be further put into question.
@danielholt5015
@danielholt5015 Ай бұрын
Great video
@Kidd09
@Kidd09 Ай бұрын
I don't know if you play Marvel Rivals, but if do you should definitely make a video of what characters you want to see in the game and what would their role and abilities be, I think you'd have great ideas.
@OHaraMania
@OHaraMania Ай бұрын
Hello there! I love you video on why Captain America works, but can you please to a video on Carol Danvers, aka Ms. Marvel, aka Captain Marvel, and why she would work in the comics?
@zachorryy
@zachorryy 25 күн бұрын
Captain America works but we don't talk about that series when Captain America betrayed America to join Hydra...
@jamesfinendale4898
@jamesfinendale4898 24 күн бұрын
Captain America works because he has bills to pay
@animeproblem1070
@animeproblem1070 Ай бұрын
Oh so you've definitely not seen the sympathetic strawman video damn
@Opiusime
@Opiusime Ай бұрын
Steve Rogers is my goat, and I love this video
@awesomebrosinc.2160
@awesomebrosinc.2160 Ай бұрын
Captain America is the best character in the mcu. Imo, he's the main character.
@wambokodavid7109
@wambokodavid7109 Ай бұрын
Nope.... ironman is.and thanos is the greatest character in the mcu😤
@Nicolas14215
@Nicolas14215 29 күн бұрын
No, MCU Iron Man it's nothing like OG Doom,
@sirflapfla97
@sirflapfla97 Ай бұрын
Captain america is a patriot, not a nationalist. He believes in what America can be
@LarryBonson
@LarryBonson 24 күн бұрын
Patriot and nationalist are two sides of the same coin.
@brianelam9297
@brianelam9297 Ай бұрын
Steve is the true Captain America, I love Sam and Bucky, but they are nowhere near being Captain America like Steve is.
@kingfishproductions3476
@kingfishproductions3476 Ай бұрын
I know this is a bit of a hot take but I have never liked Zenmo in Falcon and winter soldier, Yes Steve had his flaws like the rest of us but he still did exceptional thing, not by making people believe in him but by getting people to believe in themselves, I honestly don’t know why having flaws in spite of that should be a bad thing
@VELVETVELVENIR-7q
@VELVETVELVENIR-7q Ай бұрын
It's not bad a hero is supposed to be facing troubles and overcoming them which makes cap good
@madtitanthanos7898
@madtitanthanos7898 Ай бұрын
I think you forget Zemo is supposed to oppose Sam, the protagonist, and align with him
@timothyspory6475
@timothyspory6475 11 күн бұрын
The problem with Falcon and the Winter Soldier is that Marvel and Disney believe they should push their ideology on others with the primary position that people can’t be trusted to make up their own minds. We are well able to make our own choices according to what we believe and do not need anyone to school us on nationalism or patriotism and whether we should embrace either one.
@shannonstewart7952
@shannonstewart7952 Ай бұрын
This upcoming Captain America film is not about Steve Rogers. It is about Sam Wilson's version of Captain America. Although Sam is a decent Captain, Captain America will forever be - Steve Rogers!! The Star-Spangled Man with a plan! lmao
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Ай бұрын
Do a video like this on Iron Man
@coachtali5151
@coachtali5151 Ай бұрын
Pay attention to his REAL principles. FREEDOM, THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE, BELIEVING IN PEOPLE. His first choice as a partner and successor after the ice was a Black man dedicated to helping others. It's really all right there. There's right and wrong
@bambimbosh
@bambimbosh Күн бұрын
great vid.
@existential_narwal9257
@existential_narwal9257 Ай бұрын
Personally I like john walker, He's a flawed character but I find his story sympathetic.
@megaultradamn
@megaultradamn 6 күн бұрын
You're in the majority
@The_Infamous_Boogyman
@The_Infamous_Boogyman Ай бұрын
4:35 i dont think cap would be very proud of America right now 7:20 we want you means we want you to fight our war and die so we rich men dont have to
@Darkwintre
@Darkwintre Ай бұрын
I liked that movie!
@srensen9948sander
@srensen9948sander Ай бұрын
Sooo great video
@PlasticAndPages
@PlasticAndPages 9 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t quite say Cap is “pro status quo”…..
@croissantisthebestwoohoo
@croissantisthebestwoohoo Ай бұрын
Can I have the editing job?
@remuslazar2033
@remuslazar2033 Ай бұрын
Can you please tell me the name of the song used in the last minutes of the video?
@thesuperframe
@thesuperframe Ай бұрын
Can’t remember what it was specifically only other time I heard it was in James Cameron’s masterclass, the first episode of that, should be in the credits of that episode
@sandhiwistara9128
@sandhiwistara9128 Ай бұрын
Just because someone say something is Gray doesn't validate the wrong thing that been done. Just like in winter Soldier Steve given case by Nick Fury to question his Black and white by saying it gray and the black need to be implemented (A.K.A Surveillance Battleship) Steve still stand strong in How that is a wrong thing to do. In civil War Tony gave the same excuse as Registration Act and Steve stand on his principle of Liberty. (Falcon and Winter Soldier fall short on that since all Sam did is yelling at senate and defending actual terrorist, aside that other side plot is good even John Walker one)
@jimc7022
@jimc7022 Ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t know if you were paying attention during Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Bucky and Sam were more the bad actors than John Walker. Also that is not was nationalism means.
@battlinjoe2592
@battlinjoe2592 Ай бұрын
I think he’s confusing nationalism for jingoism.
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 Ай бұрын
4:29, Outside of his affinity for traditionally ideals of truth, justice and freedom, Steve’s ideology is centered on honor, courage, humility and compassion. But it’s that sense of honor, of what is honorable, that is depicted as being in conflict with the morally complex, and in many ways morally bankrupt world he is contrasted against in the modern day, 7:54, so his ideals aren't degraded into blind loyalty to his country or arrogance over his feeling of moral superiority to the point of ignoring moral complexity all together. Most notably, Steve is able to quickly rationalize terrible things he and his people did during war time against a more easily identifiable and more overtly detrimental and corrupt enemy because of the ultimate goal of spreading truth, justice and freedom, and thus he condemns SHIELD for making similar compromises in the name of order and control. Steve is an honorable person in a dishonorable world, a world that values order more than virtue. It’s no surprise that while he fought for a world where virtue would not be so easily discarded in the name of order, he is later contrasted against his government assigned replacement, 4:50, John Walker, who fights for a world where is it far more difficult to preserve order without discarding virtue, where it is far more difficult to be honorable, a soldier who tries to be virtuous, but is plagued by an insecurity and jealousy that Steve notably lacked, similar to Steve's own obsession with service and honor to the point of rejecting any compromises, albeit flaws better balanced out with his ultimate desire to protect justice and liberty in the world, not control it. These contrasts also exist with his personally selected successor in Sam Wilson, who similarly to him refuses to engage with the moral complexity of the world in exchange for turning on the government for all its flaws (ironically in reference to situations the Avengers themselves in their failure to stop Thanos created and the governments of the world were left to haphazardly handle as best they could). 9:31, Unfortunately, the idea of being humble and brave enough to create movements a person is part of can often be conflated with abandoning or attempting to destroy those movements, as in recent comics, Steve has been used as a mouthpiece to spout rhetoric demonizing his country as irredeemable due to its flaws without any support for what virtues it still has. Steve in the films similarly destroys SHIELD and unleashes chaos that aids Zemo in his destruction of the Avengers. 10:26, A point few focus on is that Steve very much can be wrong, can cause more harm than good with his rigid values that leave little room for compromise, that his assertion that super-abled individuals, powered or not, never being regulated can just as easily be corrupted by less humble or generous individuals that may decide to impose their will on the world without restraint, use their freedom to steal the freedom of others, the very thing Steve opposes. 13:15, It is Steve's humility that measures his fear and doubt, his compassion (14:28, as fear and doubt alone aren't evil, neither is shame or guilt, as they are a path to humility when someone isn't burdened by the true evil of pride, like Tony's pride), but Steve's belief in his own righteousness that opens the door for the team's failures just as much as Tony's belief in his own ambitions. 13:49, Steve's defense of the "status quo" is more a defense of people's freedom to choose, their freedom to try and make the world better, it's just that progress is slow and regression is a very real possibility. The purpose of heroes isn't to hoard all the problems and the solutions, but to defend it long enough to people to make positive changes for themselves and stop malevolent or irresponsible figures (16:39, speaking irresponsible, it's no surprise Spiderman is corrupted by irresponsibility as his Avenger's affiliations gradually destroy his life as he seeks to have everything he wants and still be Spiderman, an ego and greed reminscent of Stark's) from making negative changes that threaten not just peace and freedom, but also the possibility of progress. This is what people miss when critiquing the status quo, the fact that it's on everyday people to make a difference in the world, that superheroes are a fantasy that reflect aspects of reality, a reality where change is something people have to make happen themselves and often don't out of indolence or ignorance. But that is the greatest strength of this character, analyzing how difficult it can be to be good in a flawed and complex world, wether it is arrogant and misguided or brave and noble to disagree with authority at times, where “doing better” isn’t always enough to make a difference, where there are no easy solutions as “punch the bad guy and go home”, where attempting to do good may end up serving the interests of malevolent individuals instead of the poor and disenfranchised, but still holding onto hope that those virtues can still have the power to make even the smallest of difference as long as people still give it those immaterial concepts power, concepts that are worth giving power to.
@Johnnybon3z
@Johnnybon3z Ай бұрын
Im currently writing a fan fiction Captain America story that turns Steve Rogers into a black man who fought in the Vietnam War who underwent unethical experimentation involving the Super Soldier Serum and ends up going rogue(4:21 !!!)... Pls don't kill me, but this video is helpful to keep the core of the character in tact while still taking the radical liberties I want to take .
@plamedimatenda10
@plamedimatenda10 Ай бұрын
There's a captain america named Isaiah Bradley who I think will help you out a lot with your story, his son is also a captain america in the future
@Johnnybon3z
@Johnnybon3z Ай бұрын
@plamedimatenda10 am already aware of Isiah Bradley and his story, my take on this version of Captain America definitely shares some parallels with Bradleys story
@Johnnybon3z
@Johnnybon3z Ай бұрын
@plamedimatenda10 but I can promise you that this is going to be its own unique never before seen thing I plan on releasing the story in the next 3 to 5 years so I hope it gains enough traction for you to see
@toddjacksonpoetry
@toddjacksonpoetry 10 күн бұрын
1940 was not "a simpler time." Pearl Harbor made it simple.
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