Why Cole Palmer Is One Of The Best Players In The Premier League

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28 күн бұрын

On this week's episode of The Breakdown, brought to you by Sky Bet, we looked into the data and tactics behind Cole Palmer’s incredible form in his debut season so far for Chelsea.
Would you rank Cole Palmer amongst the best young players in the Premier League or do you think he still has a lot to improve on?
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@Malaysian_GenXer
@Malaysian_GenXer 26 күн бұрын
Tbf, City had both Foden and Palmer, they made a choice, I feel they chose wisely. They probably did Cole a favor letting him go instead of making him a bench player
@DrBased123
@DrBased123 26 күн бұрын
Should've had both. One in the 10 and the other on the wing. KDB is always injured these days. Silva won't be there much longer. This was a blunder and if they don't win the league this year it will look even worse. This is like when Chelsea let go of Salah but they still had Hazard. Should've had both, not just one.
@glorioustrump245
@glorioustrump245 17 күн бұрын
Chose wisely is so dumb lol. They could have got 100m plus for him if they played him more showing how good he is at the very least
@kriissyy09ify
@kriissyy09ify 27 күн бұрын
He didn't prove Pep wrong though, because Pep always said he was a good player. The issue was he wanted to be starting most weeks and City are so stacked they couldn't guarantee that. It's also important to note half his goals have come from the penalty spot and his team are currently mid table. We're talking about Cole Palmer as if he's dragging Chelsea to a top 4 place or something.
@FabeHull
@FabeHull 27 күн бұрын
Also the fact that he’s a homegrown player, they got a lot of money for him too to help with FFP
@Biffo316
@Biffo316 27 күн бұрын
He still has to score the penalties. Nobody is saying he's dragging them anywhere but more they'd probably be almost relegation fodder if not for him. But he has proved Pep wrong in so far as they spent 100m on Grealish and he hasn't had had half the impact at City that Palmer has had at Chelsea. Pep is also hardly gonna come out and say a player he's trying to get rid of is dogshite now is he? No manager would ever do that because then they wouldn't get anywhere near their asking price when they eventually do sell up because Pep can't build a squad with what he already has instead, at least at City, he just buys whoever he wants and sometimes forgets he has them. John Stones didn't get a look in for about 18 month then magically reappearedl because Pep remember he had a 50m centre half on the bench. He had arguably the best club ever assembled at Barcelona Barcelona, never won the champions league with Bayern despite them winning the treble the season before he took ovee. Palmer is having an incredible season and he's bet on himself and it's worked out for him.
@bobbydeazy
@bobbydeazy 27 күн бұрын
De Brauna and Salah did same thing to Chelsea. It’s ok to prove manager wrong. Great players grow wherever they go
@Erysx12
@Erysx12 27 күн бұрын
If pep wanted to keep him he could have but they signed Doku, he’s better than Doku by a mile & even if cole stayed he wouldn’t be getting a lot of minutes he’d be a part time player like Oscar bobb & Lewis so for me leaving was the best decision City rated him but didn’t know he’d be this good
@yunbha4418
@yunbha4418 27 күн бұрын
​@@Biffo316 0 football knowledge here^
@Elltrixer
@Elltrixer 27 күн бұрын
Pep knew he was good and wanted him to stay, but couldn’t guarantee him game time over KDB and Foden.
@YoungSoprano90
@YoungSoprano90 19 күн бұрын
Bs, pep dropped a bollock letting him go
@mikestock1848
@mikestock1848 14 күн бұрын
Only saw him once against City in the FA cup, but he was fantastic in that game
@kitataq
@kitataq 27 күн бұрын
Nobody proved Pep wrong, unless you think Palmer is better than Foden.
@jbri1
@jbri1 27 күн бұрын
That isn't proof Pep isn't wrong. Pep sold Palmer who's gone on to have a brilliant brilliant season while some of City's stars have struggled. Bernardo, Haaland, Alvarez and Grealish haven't had half the season Palmer has
@georgeb8679
@georgeb8679 24 күн бұрын
​@@jbri1shut up. 8 penalties. Stay in your lane
@murraycooper9273
@murraycooper9273 23 күн бұрын
He is, third most goal involvements in Europes top 5 leagues behind mbappe and Kane
@georgeb8679
@georgeb8679 22 күн бұрын
@@murraycooper9273 Penalties 😂😂
@mutungirodney4526
@mutungirodney4526 27 күн бұрын
Pep obviously rates him. He's said it over and over. But does he start ahead of Foden, Bernado, or KDB? I don't think so. Great to see him getting minutes though
@jbri1
@jbri1 27 күн бұрын
He hasn't said it over and over at all. I haven't heard him say it once. 'Getting minutes'?! He's performing better than most of the elite players in the league. You're a joker.
@Homievegetable
@Homievegetable 27 күн бұрын
@@jbri1🤡
@glorioustrump245
@glorioustrump245 17 күн бұрын
Starts over grealish
@Piyushattr1
@Piyushattr1 15 күн бұрын
Cold palmer 🥶💙
@rub1tan679
@rub1tan679 27 күн бұрын
Agreed 👍 he is Excellent 👌 .. but needs to sort his Barnet out 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@Okafor1000
@Okafor1000 27 күн бұрын
Palmer has been a revelation
@M66CBH
@M66CBH 27 күн бұрын
With Mahrez leaving, pep was going to utilise palmer. Then Bernardo stayed again too. Pep wanted to keep Cole
@dlo11794
@dlo11794 27 күн бұрын
Palmer is playing great, but he still doesn’t start in that Man City lineup. It was good for him to move on to get game time but picking chelsea on a permanent move wasn’t the best of ideas
@eaglemma1020
@eaglemma1020 27 күн бұрын
Yep he does and bags goals and assist for fun with the players around him
@jbri1
@jbri1 27 күн бұрын
He's having a better season than Haaland, Alvarez and Grealish
@shafqat5860
@shafqat5860 23 күн бұрын
Palmer would not have been the player he has become in Chelsea if he stayed in the city. City does not play the same way as Chelsea and he would have been benched more often than not. Pepball is a system that is less reliant on individual brilliance. That is why Grealish, Bernado don't get as much G/A. Palmer would most likely have been played as touchline right winger and would not be allowed to drift into central positions had he played for city. So, it was a good move for him to leave. But saying he proved pep wrong is just downright incorrect.
@SPARKLEPANDA4LIFE
@SPARKLEPANDA4LIFE 24 күн бұрын
I never wanted us to sell him personally I thought he was a great talent and could have been an imprtant player for us for years to come and he's priving himself already good luck to the lad
@capio78
@capio78 26 күн бұрын
Should not have signed Doku and kept him. KDB, Grealish Foden Silva, Palmer rotating 3 positions. He'd have played plenty.
@TheChannelofaDisappointedMan
@TheChannelofaDisappointedMan 19 күн бұрын
Palmer's skills would be worth much less without the strength of character he has consistently shown. Have we seen a young player come into a side and grab it by the scruff of the neck like this since Rooney emerged?
@Keiphton27
@Keiphton27 23 күн бұрын
One of the best pieces of business done this season by far.
@TT-hx9nj
@TT-hx9nj 27 күн бұрын
Never seen a manager in England get criticised more than Pep.
@jbri1
@jbri1 27 күн бұрын
You're blind
@georgeb8679
@georgeb8679 24 күн бұрын
​@@jbri1wanna fight?
@levb1729
@levb1729 27 күн бұрын
His name is Cold Palmer, innit?
@Stephenheaven7
@Stephenheaven7 27 күн бұрын
Cold Palmer 🥶❄️
@spark556
@spark556 27 күн бұрын
Pen merchant 😭
@karthikraj4903
@karthikraj4903 13 күн бұрын
@@spark556 something even some great players can't do 😂😂😂
@blenderboy1900
@blenderboy1900 27 күн бұрын
He didn't 💀💀💀
@TheMrClutchy
@TheMrClutchy 27 күн бұрын
Remember when they said this about sancho?
@eaglemma1020
@eaglemma1020 27 күн бұрын
Dont remember sancho putting up numbers like palmer in his first professional starting season in the prem
@unimportantnobody8364
@unimportantnobody8364 26 күн бұрын
He didn’t prove anyone wrong, it was clear and stated many times how good he was. Sooo on that note, I would say he proved people right. He just wasn’t going to get the playtime he desired at city so pep let him go to get the playtime he wanted.
@Generalggg
@Generalggg 25 күн бұрын
Pep rated him it’s not that he didn’t want him city’s whole thing is if u want to leave you can go
@Howtotrickafish
@Howtotrickafish 26 күн бұрын
I really like him but the stats can be ignored as it's mostly penalties
@jbri1
@jbri1 24 күн бұрын
FOUR GOALS
@andrewharrison7767
@andrewharrison7767 27 күн бұрын
How does being the main man in a terrible Chelsea side prove City wrong? Had Palmer not left, he would be in a far better squad, likely as a back up to Foden, and have far fewer games - if anything, it means their decision was correct; get decent money & player benefits from regular game time. Both parties win
@hossamenaba
@hossamenaba 27 күн бұрын
Pep Guardiola said that he assured Palmer of a lot of game time, he said that Palmer is the one decided to leave to go Chelsea. He would probably got ahead of Jack Grealish and Jeremy Doku in the team. Even Bernardo Silva has to fill-in at right wing because they have no one else, Cole Palmer was supposed be Riyad Mahrez’s replacement, they are yet to replace him.
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 27 күн бұрын
- Cole Palmer proved Man City wrong - Pep with Foden didnt prove PR Media wrong?🤣
@R08172
@R08172 19 күн бұрын
29 g+a*
@nev3rlo5t
@nev3rlo5t 27 күн бұрын
He's having a decent season at a mid-table team
@jbri1
@jbri1 27 күн бұрын
He's having an amazing season by any standards. He's playing better than every player on your team
@georgeb8679
@georgeb8679 24 күн бұрын
​@@jbri1lol. Chelshit standard is 10th. City's 1st. Stay mad
@barry9741
@barry9741 27 күн бұрын
Take away pens and reassess. Son and Bowen far more impressive. Don't get me wrong he's class, especially for someone so young but without his 8 pens nobody would be talking about him going to Euros. Give those to Endo, Sterling or Jackson and they'd be talking about them instead.
@TheG3neralLee
@TheG3neralLee 27 күн бұрын
Bowen 😂
@barry9741
@barry9741 27 күн бұрын
@@TheG3neralLee In terms of non penalty goals scored. Watkins 18 Bowen 15 Son 14 Foden 14 Wood 12 Then you have others such as Trossard 8 Bailey 8 Palmer 8 Diaz 8 Doesn't look so special now does he?
@eaglemma1020
@eaglemma1020 27 күн бұрын
@@barry9741Stat merchant at its finest
@eaglemma1020
@eaglemma1020 27 күн бұрын
@@TheG3neralLeeLeave him bro
@barry9741
@barry9741 27 күн бұрын
@@eaglemma1020 no intelligent counter argument? Standard
@jefffoster7105
@jefffoster7105 27 күн бұрын
Fair play to the lad moving to London at his age and not heen fazed by the terrible form of the team and turbulent club . Takes some doing and shouldnt be sniffed at. Think about it . Its nothing to do with Poch or the whole team would be at least half decent so dont give him the credit because the credit belongs totally to the lad himself.Fair play lad. Id love him at Anfield. YNWA
@salehr8770
@salehr8770 27 күн бұрын
Absolutely unreal
@Nostradamus-xp7pd
@Nostradamus-xp7pd 26 күн бұрын
Proved Man City wrong?? Lol. He's having a good season and we're proud of him. That shrug when he scored the pen against City was hilarious. He'd scored 8 goals at the time, half of those were pens and his shrug was saying "They didn't want me and look how great I am now" ---- Calm down, Cole. You still wouldn't be getting in the City team. 😂
@Equinox99509
@Equinox99509 27 күн бұрын
So without Cole Chelsea would be in a relegation battle. How the mighty have fallen 😂
@FootballLad
@FootballLad 21 күн бұрын
This is just stats driven.
@tommyburnhamsmusic
@tommyburnhamsmusic 27 күн бұрын
hes class thank god for him this season or we would be much lower in the table than we are. we need a No 9
@dazred1
@dazred1 27 күн бұрын
He only has 8 non-penalty goals. He’s a good player shining at a poor team… but he is far from being ‘world class’ or one of the best in the league.
@hossamenaba
@hossamenaba 27 күн бұрын
He has 26 goals and assists without penalties. Why didn’t you say that? Doesn’t fit your narrative, right?
@TheDandonian
@TheDandonian 27 күн бұрын
Shame he isn't a Left Winger. He's not getting in over Saka but he could have owned Left Wing for England.
@AllInTheGame01
@AllInTheGame01 27 күн бұрын
So does he make ENG's Euro Squad?!
@DrBased123
@DrBased123 26 күн бұрын
He's an impact sub at worst. Could easily start though.
@grobocop2213
@grobocop2213 27 күн бұрын
Pep should have assured him an important role at City. Mistake.
@fisherengineering
@fisherengineering 27 күн бұрын
Did he?
@jbri1
@jbri1 27 күн бұрын
Him, Foden and Garnacho are the best young players this season.
@georgeb8679
@georgeb8679 24 күн бұрын
Pen marchent
@jbri1
@jbri1 24 күн бұрын
@georgeb8679 four goals in a game says otherwise
@adamaalto-mccarthy6984
@adamaalto-mccarthy6984 27 күн бұрын
Too many tactics, brain hurts!
@spark556
@spark556 27 күн бұрын
'I can score pens' 😂
@fredriknordin
@fredriknordin 27 күн бұрын
I love English humour!
@LUFC123
@LUFC123 27 күн бұрын
He's too good for Chelsea. He's better than a mid table player
@johnhanrahan1931
@johnhanrahan1931 23 күн бұрын
I bet you would love your team to be a mid-table premier league
@LUFC123
@LUFC123 23 күн бұрын
@johnhanrahan1931 We're a bigger club than Chelsea. Before the Russian you were a cup team at best
@lilyparty4960
@lilyparty4960 27 күн бұрын
Did he prove Pep wrong, or does this show Pep had better players and let him go so he could get game time, he didn’t fit into pep’s style of play, or pep wants someone better. He’s a good player but I don’t think he proven pep wrong
@trystangovender4827
@trystangovender4827 27 күн бұрын
Penalty merchant
@barry9741
@barry9741 27 күн бұрын
100% In terms of non penalty goals scored. Watkins 18 Bowen 15 Son 14 Foden 14 Wood 12 Then you have others such as Trossard 8 Bailey 8 Palmer 8 Diaz 8 Doesn't look so special now does he?
@hossamenaba
@hossamenaba 27 күн бұрын
If you don’t include penalty goals, he still has 26 goals and assists, but of course won’t acknowledge that because it doesn’t fit your agenda.
@barry9741
@barry9741 27 күн бұрын
@@hossamenaba I said he's class but including penalties skews the stats. He's had a brilliant season but the headline of 16 PL goals is misleading
@hossamenaba
@hossamenaba 27 күн бұрын
@@barry9741 a goal is a goal, I’m not sure why people pretend like penalties are super easy to score. What do you want him to do with the penalties? miss it? I just don’t understand the logic. Also the players you’ve compared him to are mainly strikers, not wingers. The only one that may be classed as a winger is Foden. Everyone else is either a striker or an inside forward. Again, your argument is completely flawed.
@barry9741
@barry9741 27 күн бұрын
@@hossamenaba that's not true though is it. Nobody counts penalties in shootouts and rightly so. Like it's not really about him, he's class. Just don't think pens should count towards the comparisons. Out of him and Sterling, he'll go to the Euros simply because he took pens off Sterling. Which is silly.
@jbri1
@jbri1 24 күн бұрын
I bet you Palmer haters feel stupid for calling him a pen merchant now
@FootballLad
@FootballLad 21 күн бұрын
Half his goals are pens
@stretfordender11
@stretfordender11 27 күн бұрын
Nonsense as pep rates him highly. He just couldn’t pick him as much as he wanted. United should have gone for him though.
@DarthQueefious
@DarthQueefious 27 күн бұрын
Palmer decided to leave. Everyone at City knew he was class. Still, it's one thing doing it for a mid-table side (with the help of a huge number of pens) and doing it at the top.
@tom2652
@tom2652 27 күн бұрын
Surely it’s easier to do it for a big team? where he gets more service and the players around him will finish the chances he creates. He would have at least double the assists if Chelsea players could finish. Poor take that
@BRYANRAHUL-yq1be
@BRYANRAHUL-yq1be 25 күн бұрын
The unexpected player turns out to be valuable asset in Chelsea. But we'll, he's the Average Joe Cold (Cole) Palmer. I hope he became biggest asset in Chelsea. 👍
@david6532
@david6532 27 күн бұрын
utter nonsense as usual
@sonnerthebest1
@sonnerthebest1 27 күн бұрын
He’s average as owt. He’s part of the reason Chelsea are where they are. I don’t care what the stats say.
@ElwoodRidesAgain
@ElwoodRidesAgain 27 күн бұрын
Don’t just make the statement. Back it up with why you think he’s “part of the reason Chelsea are where they are”.
@itsmeprasad1987
@itsmeprasad1987 27 күн бұрын
For his size he pretty amazing.. speed is good.. will be a super star no doubt
@omegaman6494
@omegaman6494 27 күн бұрын
I hate Chelsea but without Palmer they'd be fighting relegation
@TT-hx9nj
@TT-hx9nj 27 күн бұрын
Understanding football isn't for everyone.
@eaglemma1020
@eaglemma1020 27 күн бұрын
Then watch him play constantly making crucial ground passes, also can lob the ball over the top, receive on the half turn, receive and score first time. You cant hate on palmer hes too good and you’re jealous. Stay jealous mate stay jealous
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