Why Darth Bane Would've NEVER Destroyed Alderaan Like Darth Sidious

[@Arthion]

Technically destroying an uninhabited planet and broadcasting it to the entire Empire could have achieved a similar effect without the downside of strengthening the resistance to the same degree as the destruction of Alderaan did

[@jonathansayah9506]

Yeah, they could have blown up an Uninhabited planet.

[@maxwellchen-byerley5598]

Sidious planned for Tarkin to destroy a planet that way. However Tarkin had the full decision of what planet was to be destroyed.

[@unendingvoid]

Maxwell Chen-Byerley Tarkin was an arrogant fool.

[@alexanerose4820]

Nah Alderaan destroyed his fear reputation and replaced it with anger. Had he destroyed an uninhabited one, it would've solidified the fear since a true master of fear holds implications for the mind to wonder in one hand and a restrained hold of destructive power on the other

[@Figs3]

mikkel larsen might have been less Ruthless but less people would have joined the rebellion.

[@theconfidentchicken3414]

I now image Bane slapping Paplatine in the face and yelling "NO!" due to the destruction of Aldaraan

[@maxwellchen-byerley5598]

Palpatine didn't want Alderaan destroyed.

[@kal0247]

The Confident Chicken 🤣🤣🤣👍😂😂😂

[@aaronrussell8362]

Slapping palpatine? More like sith lightning

[@iamdominis8784]

Bad idea. Sidious would slowly torture Bane with the force before killing him.

[@iamdominis8784]

@Daddy Max Sidious is far more powerful.

[@MrRonald327]

Bane was a visionary, pragmatism is what made him so dangerous.

[@JohnDoe-vn1we]

He was a pussy, without his Mary Sue bugs(orbalisks plot armor) he would have killed.

[@papapapa2856]

@@JohnDoe-vn1we he killed people with the armor as well

[@aamirrazak3467]

Agreed his rule of two and philosophy of striking from the shadows helped the Sith survive and fulfill his grand plan to rule the galaxy after 1000 years

[@killerflamingo9566]

@@JohnDoe-vn1we hahahanahahahaha clearly you dont get the character at all

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

@@JohnDoe-vn1we Really. You read the books and came to that conclusion? Hmmm. Interesting. Sure you remember all your read?

[@JanPeverell]

Obi-Wan wasn't actually that far off: "If you define yourself by your power to take life, a desire to dominate, to possess, then you have nothing."

[@Mysteryof89]

THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE?!

[@gamintrucker1016]

There's nothing to control if you destroy it.

[@ricancira]

I, have nothing. I, am nothing. I, am oblivion made flesh. I, am the dark lord of the sith.

[@pout6038]

+z3link i have the high ground

[@DEMONX62]

Well the alderainians dont have a planet either

[@kevanmcentee2174]

Darth Bane would never have wasted resources on a vanity project like the Death Star. Such a construct can only be used in an overt manner, and Darth Bane preferred the subtle approach.

[@Anthyrion]

Even Thrawn warned Palpatine to waste so much ressources on a single Battlestation. It would've been more effective to put this ressources into more Star Destroyers and Thrawns own project. And as we saw in Rebels, the Tie Defender would've been a hard challenge for every other pilot

[@williamhayes215]

@@Anthyrion yea. Palps fucked up on that choice.

[@Anthyrion]

@@williamhayes215 Yes. He was a great Politician and manipulator. But a lousy military strategist. In a way, i can understand, why he build the Death Star. If Tarkin would've blown up a planet in the outer rim and the Empire broadcastet that, that would've striked fear into every other Planetary Gouverneur. It is the way of the Sith to rule with fear and sheer power. The problem was, that Alderaan was a core member of the republic. And i think, if Tarkin would've survived, he would've had to answer to Palpatine why he blew up such an important planet

[@john90392]

If I'm remembering correctly, Tarkin made the decision to destroy Alderaan, not Sidious. In fact, I think he was angry when he found out and resettled refugees from Alderaan on Naboo.

[@edben24]

If you watch the movie you will see that Tarkin wanted to destroy the planet with the rebel base not Alderaan but choose Alderaan mainly to spite Leia for not telling him the location.

[@seandlax9]

This. In the Tarkin book, which is considered canon, Vader even straight up tells Tarkin that Sidious should be consulted before he destroyed a major planet like Alderaan, and Tarkin was simply like, "Fuck that! I do what I want!"

[@brandondowdy4220]

@@seandlax9 i didn't read that but I believe it was in that

[@AndrewJamesWilliams]

Indeed as while Palpatine gave Tarkin the authority to destroy a planet he did not expect him to destroy Alderaan. Like everyone else in the galaxy he was shocked and angered by it.

[@aaronnelson4929]

@@AndrewJamesWilliams Palpy even thought the destruction of Alderaan was a little too extream. If Tarkin would've survived after The Death Star survived I believe Palpy would have had him tried at an imperial court and "severely punished."

[@DenDhur]

Palpy: "DEWIT!!" Tarkin: "You may fire when ready"

[@SpartacusTheHumble]

Turbo laser officer: Hesitant to fire. Palpatine: DEWIT DAMNIT. Officer: accidentally sets off the self destruct instead. Palpatine: aww shit. Officer: did i do good? Has troll face. Then does Nazi salute. Palpatine: smh

[@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt]

Palpatine didn’t want Alderaan destroyed. He knew it was too soon, and that it would galvanize the Rebellion against him.

[@dboymax1]

Yes it was Tarkin who committed to destroying Alderaan...

[@solaryx6369]

Thanks

[@figjam9530]

bane was all about efficiency. it was one of the motivations behind the rule of two. to destroy a large population planet as an example would be inefficient.

[@connorvinas1473]

Let me add some additional input. A lot of commentators describe the death stars use as a galactic terror weapon, meant to keep the galaxy in line. However, the Death Star fails in this, great terror weapons feed one hope....Kill one, scare a thousand, let them believe that they narrowly escaped death, let them believe, even if a vice closes around their throat, that they MIGHT escape and live. In this, the fear of death will drive them, but the hope for life will keep them in line. Using a weapon of absolute destruction will give the opposite affect, "If Im going to die anyway, I might as well resist, if they will kill my family no matter what I do, I have nothing to lose" Omnicidal weapons give grad desperate courage to survivors, by taking away their hope, you take away their leash to self preservation. It also ruins your reputation, tyrants who rule by fear need people to constantly be in fear of "What could they possibly do next?" The tyrant wants their people to imagine all the ways a horrible situation could be much. much. MUCH worse, in order to keep people in line. When a Despot does play their hand, they lose that power, when she does the worst possible thing she could do, the fear of the unknown, the ultimate fear, is lost in the masses. The Death Star was a visionary project, but it was driven by laziness, Palpatine was getting bored by humdrum of keeping the peace through fear the old fashioned way with elbow grease, so he sought to outscource terror to technology, not a good idea. As vader said "Your Technological terror, is nothing compared to the power of the force"

[@alexanerose4820]

Nah Alderaan destroyed his fear reputation and replaced it with anger. Had he destroyed an uninhabited one, it would've solidified the fear since a true master of fear holds implications for the mind to wonder in one hand and a restrained hold of destructive power on the other

[@beebeenyneeee7692]

Thats because this wasnt palpatines or vaders idea. It was tarkins. He believed fear could make the entire galaxy submit to the empire. And it failed. Sidious put too much trust in tarkin and didnt listen to others concerns abour the death star like thrawn or vaders arguments againt the construction

[@steveno3141]

@@beebeenyneeee7692 tarkins choice falls squarely at sidious' feet. Being an underling of sidious he represented him. Him destorying the planet is the same as if sidious did it. Therefore if sidious had immediately had tarkin publicly executed he could shift the blame to an overzealous officer, thus saving face while simultaneously instilling more fear from officers, troops, and citizens.

[@3Rayfire]

@@beebeenyneeee7692 Didn't Palpatine wholeheartedly support the Tarkin Doctrine though? And yep, despots, tyrants, and princes disregard Niccolo's words at their own peril, "But not so much that you are hated."

[@PJOZeus]

“Why do we have the games? Why not just take 24 of them at random and execute them, be at a lot quicker, cheaper, so why do we have the games?” “Why?” “Hope. It is the one thing stronger then fear.”

[@SH-fx6ks]

Another thing Bane would have disliked Sidious for doing was keeping Vader around and/or for not allowing him to reach his full potential. To Bane it was absolute paramount that the master eventually becomes expendable to the Apprentice, allowing the Sith to get stronger with each generation. What did Sidious do to Vader? He put him in a suit that encumbered him, and that was easily destroyed by Sith lightning. The more I think about it the more it's clear to me that Sidious only lost because he disregarded Bane's plan and philosophy once he was in a position of absolute power.

[@FLAME4564]

In other words had Bane still and been Darth Vader's master instead of Sidious I think he would have taught him things a lot more differently than what Sidious did

[@betterlatethannever4529]

Exactly!

[@WhiteWoof]

Spoilers for the book Darth Plagueis ahead, but also pertinent to Sidious keeping Vader around in a weakened state. . . . . . . I actually just finished the Darth Plagueis book, and I realize now that Sidious set aside the Rule of Two as it was because the Grand Plan had finally been completed; the Sith ruled the galaxy, to his knowledge the Jedi had been wiped out. There was no more need to make the Order stronger. Now it was just for him to rule. According to Palpatine in the Prequel Trilogy, Plagueis taught everything he knew about manipulating Midiclorians to his apprentice (Sidious) to sustain life eternal, so Palpatine, presumably, could rule forever. BUT, Plagueis also had set aside Bane's Rule of Two, believing the two of them would rule the Galaxy together forever, with Palpatine ruling the "profane" realm with his expertise in politics, while Plagueis ruled the Force realm with his power over the Dark Side. Sidious secretly despised this idea, and still held to Bane's Rule of Two for the time, and slew his Master (albeit in a way that would make Bane slap him silly). Sidious obviously didn't want his apprentice to be any real threat to him and thus do the same thing..... thus the suit vulnerable to electrical damage.

[@coreythomas3633]

WhiteWolf Darkpaw that the only thing I disagree with Sidious

[@aamirrazak3467]

agreed I think Sidious did not support the rule of two and rather though to amass as much power for himself as he could therefore depriving Vader of his knowledge and teaching and preventing him from overthrowing him, his turning away from the rule helped contribute to his fall

[@thecatfather857]

Do not be so confident in this technological terror you have constructed. It's ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of The Force. ~Darth Vader

[@jdurk]

If not for meeeeeeee......... For cleansing the Dark Side of foooooooolsssss

[@gabenfanboy7471]

Sidious betrayed the rule of 2, that alone makes him different enouugh. I mean, Bane hated to think that zahhah could kill him while he is not as his best constitution while sidious killed Plagueis while he was drunk

[@WhiteWoof]

I just finished the Darth Plagueis book, and while I used to 100% believe Sidious was a failure in Bane's eyes, I reduce that to 70%. I won't spoil it outright, though.

[@whichDude]

@@WhiteWoof A failure that wiped out the Jedi order. Thanks to Disney I now expect Palpatine to just keep popping back up with no explanation either. He has achieved a form of immortality that even he doesn't understand.

[@barrybend7189]

I think Darth Vader said it best in the meeting room scene in a new hope.

[@rickybobby9886]

Agreed.

[@rickybobby9886]

Darth nihlus was a death star

[@eddiebrock2171]

@@rickybobby9886 lamo that just made my day.

[@rickybobby9886]

@@eddiebrock2171 may the force be with you God bless you bro. Be safe in these uncertain times. Much love to all.

[@snigull]

So if Bane had witnessed the destruction of Alderaan he would have seen Sidious as a weak and sadistic fool...I love this.

[@parryking5728]

This was one of Kreia's biggest gripes with the Sith, their sadistic desire to draw blood pointlessly is a waste of time and sometimes even fucks up plans.

[@talentlessbird3572]

Actually, sidious wouldn't have done it, and he was mad at tarkin for it

[@KombatW0mbat]

Darth bane the definition of efficiency over flex

[@TheMrprobadass]

Bane understood how arrogance hurt and/or killed Sith before him. He was on a mission to separate the Sith from all of that. He couldn’t do anything about 1000 years after the fact.

[@aamirrazak3467]

I feel like Darth bane would have had mixed feelings about Sidious one one hand he would’ve applauded him for fulfilling the grand plan and bringing down the Jedi and Republic and allowing the Sith to rule the galaxy, but at the same time he’d probably be very angry and offended that Sidious refused to teach Vader his knowledge and allow him the power to overthrow him, not to mention trying to amass power for himself only and try to become immortal

[@boykeschaafsma1117]

You could compare "execute one, terrify one thousand" to "execute one planet, terrify one thousand planets." I think Palpatine was a psychopath, and crazier then most other sith, which could also have made him stronger. (Stupendous wave had a video one this) But this could have been exactly in the line of Bane, just on a larger scale.

[@devinthierault]

Being evil wasn't essential to being a Sith. Look at Maul, an honorable fighter who could've chopped Jinn to bits after his killing blow, but he didn't. He could've killed Kenobi in his sleep.

[@alexanerose4820]

Nah Alderaan destroyed his fear reputation and replaced it with anger. Had he destroyed an uninhabited one, it would've solidified the fear since a true master of fear holds implications for the mind to wonder in one hand and a restrained hold of destructive power on the other

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

Boyke Schaafsma Eh, I wouldn't trust Stupendous Wave on much, he tends to overlook facts.

[@boykeschaafsma1117]

I know, I feel the same, but is was a good theory.

[@supersani21]

But destroying Alderaan is tantamount to an economic suicide and considering the fact that the Galaxy faced a prolonged war after which plenty of resources were spent into making a superweapon, it really needed core worlds like Alderaan to be fully functional. If they weren't, they would cripple the planets that rely on Alderaan as either a port, a market or perhaps directly a consumer. Alderaan could have potentially been and maybe had been a trading centre where the empire could acquire resources from third party organisations at feasible prices due to this port. That doesn't even include Alderaan's own influence over the Galaxy. Palpatine would have to kiss goodbye to any of the outer rim planets that relied on Alderaan for trade and they would definitely work independently. The death star can only target so many planets at a time but all those planets had Alderaan to support their economy.

[@AdonanS]

Finally, a sith that wasn't a bloodthirsty maniac.

[@Ace_of_Schrades]

Shit even the Sith have morals. Tarkin: I wanna kill these people for no reason. Bane: Yeah thats gonna be a no from me dawg.

[@smilygamer9626]

Sidious: *blows up alderaan* Darth bane: am I a joke to you

[@rejvaik00]

No buddy, Sidious was pissed at Tarkin for not consulting him

[@jannegrey]

If I remember correctly, either in canon or in Legends, Sidious was pissed at Tarkin for destroying the Alderaan

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

I've always been of the thought. That Leia and her parents should have been put on trail. Live for everyone to see. There was tons of evidence against them. It would have been the perfect way to derail them and the rebels. Darth Bane would have snapped Tarkin like a twig. Then smacked the taste out of Pally.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

It was a tactical mistake to be sure. The empire really gained nothing in destroying a pacifistic planet. Sure Alderaan spoke out against the Empire and resisted it's rule but they were very unlikely to every lift a finger to do anything about it. Using the Death star just told the galaxy what the thing could do, it was a more fearful weapon when it was a mystery. Not to mention if the Rebels didn't know it's full capability they might of tried to stay and fight against it with conventional ships, thinking it was just some kind of super large carrier or the like. Kind of seems like if the secrete wasn't blown it could of acted as a great trap against a military target. A first strike the rebels likely would of never recovered from.

[@XanderFrederick]

"Execute one, terrify one thousand." Darth Plagueis. "Execute one PLANET, terrify one thousand PLANETS!" Darth Xander

[@chipatchison5971]

I agree that Darth Bane would not have destroyed Alderaan but I contend neither would Darth Sidious since he was wise enough to follow Darth Bane's advice. I contend that Tarkin destroyed Alderaan on his own initiative. I sense that Tarken would consider this action as just a tactical decision to demonstrate his power as well as the Death Star's power. I also contend that the Death Star was to keep the military in line as well as the rest of the galaxy. As a true sith, Darth Sidious would always be looking out for any mutiny in the military as he would be looking out for his apprentice to overthrow him. The Death Star would be Darth Sidious' way of controlling the military despite Thrawn's advice and I suspect Tarkin knew this. Therefore, Tarken demonstrated to his military rivals that he would not hesitate to eliminate them one way or another the same as Darth Sidious would not hesitate to destroy any rivals. Thus Tarkin would feel he is firmly established as no. 2 in the galaxy. Please note that I believe this scenario holds true whether or not Tarkin, knew Emperor Palpatine was Darth Sidious. Even if Tarkin thought Emperor Palpatine was just another evil emperor, Tarkin would see the political advantage to being commander of the Death Star and no. 2 in the galaxy.

[@maxwellchen-byerley5598]

First Sidious told Tarkin to destroy a planet to demonstrate the Death Star's power. Tarkin choose Alderaan due to it's location. And second Tarkin's decision back fired onto the empire. After which people joined the rebel alliance.

[@chipatchison5971]

Yes, I believe Emperor Palpatine would have realized destroying Alderaan would have backfired and not sanctioned it's destruction. Please direct me to the part where Palpatine/Sidious authorized it's destruction. Was it in one of the books? I also believe that it was too soon to destroy any planets since the senate was just disbanded. Politically speaking, it's always best to wait for your political enemies to congregate, issue defiance, then destroy them. The drawn out drama has a much bigger effect. Anyway, thank you so much for replying to my message :)

[@maxwellchen-byerley5598]

+Chip Atchison The decision of what planet was to be destroyed was totally up to Tarkin.

[@chrismc410]

Chip Atchison I think Palpatine gave the green light for Tarkin to destroy A PLANET. Which one in particular was left up to Tarkin. When Palpatine found out about Alderaan, even he didn't like it

[@darthskywalker1885]

@@maxwellchen-byerley5598 if the death star wasn‘t destroyed the Tarkin Doctorine would have definitely succeeded.

[@dhwwiiexpert]

*I N T H I S V I D E O E X P O S E* Edit: Thanks for the ❤️!

[@kvaldez46]

Dylan Higgins I scrolled down to this comment right when I got to that part of the video

[@JamesJJSMilton]

Those words make me wet

[@dhwwiiexpert]

message posted I won!

[@Crafty_Spirit]

If you play KotoR 2 and mindlessly kill bystanders, the following dialogue with Kreia will unfold: Kreia: "Are psychotic urges all that drives you?" Exile: "They inspire fear, and respect." Kreia: "Perhaps... but not from those who matter." And I think both she and Bane realised that such actions can be costly in a way that is hard to predict... it likely weakens the mastery you have over yourself, and the reactions from the outside world may not be what you expect in the long run.

[@sirdaine2567]

i watched from another video that destroying Alderaan was not Palpatine's plan, he was even surprised when he got told that Tarkin destroyed it

[@Veilsyde6]

Kill 1 planet to strike fear into 1000s of planets. He was still following the teaching just on a more grand scale.

[@TheXman779]

Zak Andrews Let me guess. ...Snoke followed it even more grandeur than Palpatine....lol

[@HaloMachinimaFilms]

AL X Snoke having destroyed key planets in aiding the Republic and the Rebels is a great benefit to the dark side so yes. It does follow in the principles.

[@TheXman779]

HaloMachinima Films It was sarcasm.

[@alexanerose4820]

Nah Alderaan destroyed his fear reputation and replaced it with anger. Had he destroyed an uninhabited one, it would've solidified the fear since a true master of fear holds implications for the mind to wonder in one hand and a restrained hold of destructive power on the other

[@senatesheev]

you're not wrong

[@novemberseven1571]

I usually schedule cleansing the Dark Side of fools on the 3rd Wednesday of every month. Hey, what can I say, that's what separates from the animals, (or Wookies), a good day planner!

[@cushman72393]

The death Star was originally created for one purpose and one purpose only as a defense against the yuzhang vong and their "world ships"

[@DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki]

Bane: "Kill one, terrify one thousand" Palpatine: "Destroy one planet, terrify one thousand" Remember Palpatines "you pay the price for the lack of vision" ...? Logic Works ...same teachings.

[@rejvaik00]

Palpatine was pissed actually. It was tarkin's fault of judgement to target Alderaan.

[@thomasparque7834]

Bane would have used the Death Star to blow up a planet or moon that has no one lives on but with strong historical value to make the statement of it’s power

[@Corpsman01]

People ask,"Hey Sean, how do you wanna die?" Easy answer, "Death Star, quick and easy". No suffering, no medical bills. Bane always been one of my favorites. Enjoyed the video expose'. Nice work.

[@GearShotgun]

To be fair it wasn't Sidious but Tarkin who did it. Palpatine actually was following the "kill 1 to terrify 1000" lesson, giving Tarkin permission to obliterate a planet as a show of force. However the Emperor didn't anticipate him targeting one as politically powerful and influential as Alderaan.

[@landonletterman831]

Somebody told me that the Death Star, essentially, was a giant lightsaber

[@5stargrim]

while he ultimately died and both death stars were ultimately destroyed, he succeeded in drawing out and destroying most of the rebel fleet and making them bolder. He was testing his power, yes, but he was testing his enemies as well. destroy one planet, terrify one thousand. he used this trick to lure the rebel fleet to the second death star with false Intel. whether destroying alderaan was right or wrong, whether losing the death star was right or wrong, he learned from both and used it.

[@5stargrim]

at the end of the day without that stunt the rebels never would have come out. the plan was one crucial weakness away from perfection.

[@Alpha121198]

Have you ever noticed how the Legends material tends to paint the Emperor as this massive f**k up?

[@hibco3000]

Alpha121198 😂

[@amosdodson4022]

Rhe destruction of Alderan wasn't proposed by Darth Sidious? I guess I'm thinking of legends maybe? That was Tarkins order. Vader even suggested discussing with Sidious but Tarkin wasn't having any part of it and took full responsibility. Is that only in legends?

[@wardencobb7442]

One could potentially look at the destruction of Aldaraan as being one and the same as Darth Bane's rule of killing innocents for benefit of power. The reason for the destruction from Tarkin was to test the weapon but to also maintain and restore power and to end rebellion with the show of power... Or I could also be wrong!

[@maarifawalcott5145]

Darth Bane, the philosopher, one of my top 3 favorite Sith.

[@mrdrano]

I noticed that the energy beam produced by both Death Stars was green. If the crystals helped generate the power necessary for the beam to be produced and the Empire represents the dark side, why weren’t the crystals used corrupted and thereby produce a Red beam like in the force awakens?

[@obi-wankenobi8406]

Killing whiteout purpose is stupid waste of time

[@flintironstag2381]

I got the impression that the destruction of alderaan was just Tarkin's idea to force Leia to reveal the rebels base location.

[@3Rayfire]

It was a bluff, she gave him a target, and he disregarded what she told him and targeted her homeworld to punish her. Then it was all for nothing as she gave him old intel. In the end he destroyed Alderaan out of spite. But his first failure was threatening Alderaan in the first place.

[@TheBohobemeister]

As always, wonderful video Star Wars Reading Club!

[@dalsifodyasjustock6633]

I love your video exposes! It's incredible how many different sources you know to verify so many different topics! I have learned so much from your videos :).

[@MultiMachinegunner]

I think, after watching this video, he had another reason or two to blow up Aldderan: 1- since he knew Bail Organa was from there and had a major influence with the rebellion, and possibly 2- it was a possible staging ground for rebels

[@riverplasmahero2508]

Awesome video as always! I had never thought about that. Yet another way Sidious set himself up to fail. Can't wait to see what you do next! Thanks SWRC!!! :D

[@maxwellchen-byerley5598]

Sidious wasn't in command of the Death Star. It was Tarkin. Watch episode 4 again. Sidious didn't order Tarkin to do it either.

[@darthtroller]

very interesting content, what about Snoke, is he more like Bane or Sidious? in Snoke's case, destroying the Republic was smart, now every aspect of the war except Leia and Luke are his puppets, he's actually wanting the Resistance to fear the First Order so they could destroy each other one war so he could takeover and destroy everything that remains

[@Nemoticon]

I don't think Snoke is like either... but to play game, he's more like Sidious not because they share more in common, but because Snoke couldn't be more different to Bane. Bane was not ego-maniacal but driven, not emotional but pragmatic. Also, Bane achieved more than any other Sith before or after his time. Everything the Sith tried but failed at before, Bane succeeded at and everything the Sith achieved after, is because of Bane. He's not the most powerful or the most deadly, but he is certainly one of the smartest and definitely the most single minded. Bane didn't waste his time with conquering individuals, he just made shit happen by going out there and getting his hands dirty.

[@amysargent4237]

I wonder if The Destruction of Alderan would've created a wound in the force, similar to Darth Nhilus after Malachor V?

[@StrokeAwakening]

I love the way you say, "In the video expose'".

[@zacharyfett2491]

Bane would have had to destroy Alderaan as well. Bane instituted the Rule of Two which was perfectly fine; right up until the Two Sith ruled the Galaxy. At which point, the ONLY way to maintain power, would be to rule through fear. Additionally, Sidious had the Death Star built because he sensed a great threat from the Unknown Regions.

[@benwild8706]

I think to kill senselessly was not just arrogant but rather weakness.

[@CARBINEZzZzZ]

I come here only to hear the way he says "video exposé"

[@jSlazer1988]

Same.

[@elenorefangirl3389]

I come for the way he ends the video.

[@TheZackBriggs]

Elenorefangirl If not for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..............

[@Phuskooz]

Y’all should watch Letterkenny (Hulu) if y’all like his Canadian accent.

[@doctorwyvern9992]

I think the sight of the Death Star alone could’ve inspired the fear Sidious was aiming for. Imagine seeing something the size of a small moon suddenly appearing in the skies of your home world and then realizing it’s man made. You have no idea why it’s there or what something that size is capable of. All that alone would make any normal person afraid of causing any problems.

[@lordfrieza3792]

Knowing Darth Bane and is absolutely loathsome hatred for the hutts he would probably demonstrate the death-stars power by wiping out their planet of nal-hutta lol that way he could pitch what he did to the rest of the Galaxy as a necessary evil to rid the galaxy of the hutts and have his cake and eat it too.

[@aurathedraak7909]

We need obi, his trolling will do the work

[@septinum8726]

I don't think Sidious wanted to destroy alderaan, but it did destroy alot of his enemies, Organas, and it was mainly Tarken who gave the final work for it to be destroyed. (Also sorry about my spelling, not the greatest)

[@wierzbovsky3356]

"Kill one, terrify one thousand" - but that's exacly what Palpatine did. Only the scale changed - Plagueis was talking about individuals and Palpatine did it with the worlds.

[@Judokasting]

I've always thought that, Sidious, while yes a Sith, kind of got lost a bit in the politics of the galaxy and "being Sith" got lost somewhere along the way and becoming Emperor became more important, though, of course never losing the whole "Destroy the Jedi" thing. I believe even that was secondary and only part of the big picture of taking control of the Republic and becoming Emperor.

[@00yiggdrasill00]

i cant remember where i heard it, but i remember hearing that palpatine was as shocked as everyone else when he heard about the destruction of alderan. the death star was as far as i can see a symbol and a deterrent more then an actual practical weapon. at the very least it was never meant to be used on such an old, prestigious and economically and culturally important world as alderan. as far as i know it was tarkin who gave the order without consulting palpatine.

[@maxwellchen-byerley5598]

It was all Tarkin's doing. However Palpatine wanted to demonstrate the Death Star's destructive capability, but not on Alderaan.

[@00yiggdrasill00]

yeah that's what i remember. the guy was told to use it, then chose the worst possible test subject.

[@00yiggdrasill00]

paulsan2112 not true, there is A huge difference between fear and rage, this sparked the latter more then the former. now if they had solid evidence that alderaan was supporting the rebellion (they were but they hid it well) it may have been different, even then it would be shaky ground. this was an old planet that (in legends at least) was considered the cultural centre of the galaxy, it was the same as firing at corucant or corellia. i do agree it had a real chance of working if the empire had won at yavin but why take the risk? tarkin was a good military leader that understood what a strong military could be used for, but it seems he had no understanding of how public opinion works. palpatine did, its why he was so shocked.

[@Tengu125]

It's so odd; with what we've seen a lot of within their order; seeing a sith leading by example and being almost noble. There's no doubt in my mind Vader or Sidious would have killed the healer and his daughter in that situation...

[@slay_a_ton9430]

5:20 if Sidious had kept the station secret, he could have pulled a Jalisco and trap the rebels on a planet in a false battle with Imperial forces

[@danielpimentel7100]

And if you think hard enough Sidious's position throughout the galaxy is Bane's literal wet dream

[@dakotaa7535]

Did Sidious actually approve of Alderaan's destruction in Canon? I vaguely remember something in Legends about him being surprised Tarkin destroyed Alderaan, but it very well could have changed since the new canon was introduced.

[@maxwellchen-byerley5598]

Sidious only approved the destruction of a planet, but not Alderaan. Alderaan was Tarkin's fault.

[@rick-ry3kj]

Interesting, I always thought it was Tarkin`s decision all alone to destroy Alderaan.

[@SH-fx6ks]

It wouldn't make sense if he didn't know or approve it. For one it would be out of character for Tarkin who wouldn't undermine the emperor like that, he's too much of a professional at what he does, sticking closely to rules and regulations since he believes so much in keeping order. As well as, if Sidious didn't know he would have him removed from the Death Star before he had a chance to get to Yavin, leaving Vader in charge.

[@CiabanItReal]

I left a like for "Cleansing the dark side of fools"

[@brokenbridge6316]

Amazing, I have to give Darth Bane tremendous credit for all of his forethought when it came to killing innocents. And not just the Sith order in general.

[@masterrserch3971]

Galvanize...great word... I thought only myself and Walt "Clyde" Frazier used that word..: Def not used enough...+13 AWESOME points awarded to you, Non-Canon Expert....on top of your consistent +101 for your always funny "if not for MEEEE....." sign-off

[@callumwebb4927]

So basically it was down more to practical reasons rather than out of the goddess of his heart

[@dawfydd]

I also believe that palpatine also felt like he'd obtained the goal sith had sought so long and fought so hard for and now all he had left was to learn and control, but we are starting to hear there are things that even a sith lord had to be wary of in unknown space, but yes also arrogance that the journey was complete and he wouldn't still need to fight just as hard to keep control of it, as he did to obtain it. Imagine if the deathstar hadn't been used on a populated planet like that but the news of the Yuzhaan Vong even if the current canon regards it as lies, just telling the universe you've built this massive navy and huge battle station because you have reports of a race who will inflict much more destruction on the galaxy than the clone wars did, it would've delayed the rebel alliance becoming the solid group it did and maybe kept the galaxy at peace for another decade depending on what happened from then.

[@tilltronje1623]

What's interesting is the even Sidious' master Plagueis also specifically pointed out that "we are not butchers".

[@archielamarr2950]

So he would have taken out a moon to show that he could and what the death star could do if he was pushed

[@beebeenyneeee7692]

Sidious never ordered the destruction of alderaan. Nor did vader. Grand moff tarkin was responsible for the order and it his belief he could make the galaxy submit to the empire through fear that resulted in alderaan being destroyed.

[@TheBlackIdentety]

Sidious didn't destroy Alderan. It was Tarkins decision which caused much grief for Palpatine afterward. Public riots and tons of recruits for the Rebellion. Sidious wasn't one to waste resources like this. He simply wanted a weapon of terror to solidify his rule and in case the force ever decided to strike back as a result of his life manipulation experiments.

[@jeremylee6352]

I was under the impression that the Emperor didn't know that Alderaan was to be destroyed and that he himself was shocked upon hearing the new of its destruction. To be fair to Sidious, unless he holonet Vader and Tarkin and say "do it!" otherwise, I'm inclined to believe that he's ignorant of it until it was too late.

[@tonynelligan1930]

one last thought vader was standing right there,he's sith why didn't he snap the old fools neck when he gave the order.i thought he hated tarkin,he could of said my master he would of destoryed a world,the emperor would smile and say you did well lord vader. that's the problem with creating stories before and after the first movie came out holes in the plots happen.

[@Gyrannon]

You made an error: Sidious did not destroy Alderaan, not personally anyways. Tarkin was the one that did it, and he did it cause he wanted to show that the Empire would make no exceptions; not discriminate. Sidious however was incredibly furious about the destruction of Alderaan, not only because it worked as a Lightning Rod for the Resistance, but also because it was considered one of the "Jewels of the Empire", a world that had mostly nobles & aristocrats, what made up the majority of the Empire's officers and admirals. Tarkin, as you said in another video, works by a code of "no nonsense" and politics is basically nonsense to Tarkin, but is what helped Sidious succeed. Politics was not Tarkin's way, it was however Sidious' way, and he was deeply against this action. Thing is though... This would actually fit Bane's philosophy as the destruction of Alderaan would serve a purpose, it just wasn't what Tarkin expected, and I doubt Bane could've foreseen that his lineage would have succeeded in conquering the Republic & the Jedi with primarily politics rather than destroying both outright.

[@emperorsean1]

I know its not cannon anymore but lord vitiate/valkorian did destroy planets he left them into desertless wastelands by harnessing their lifeforce into himself and absorbing them with his sith ritual.

[@obi-wankenobi8406]

I had the high ground

[@bellah-1supercobra513]

I always knew Darth Bane wasn't evil from the start. Maybe extreme, as in the requirement of killing the Master for the Apprentice to succeed hom or her, but still.

[@jasonlauritsen5587]

Thr smart thing to have eould gave been to announce to the Galaxy that your going to blow up a large planet that is void of life on whatever date. You scare the Galaxy without making Martyrs.

[@kyogre4322]

Im just thinking that the one that give order to destroy alderaan is tarkin (i just image it like this) Palpat : shoot wherever you want my boy tarkin Tarkin : ok *give order to shoot alderaan* All of the ppl in the galaxy : holy f**k

[@zerginfestorhots6132]

Basically, the true teaches of a Sith is to focus on your goal of power and excel to the point of godhood, not lower yourself to being a bunch of wild animals, killing for pleasure. Pettiness is against Sith rule as well as Jedi, it seems.

[@coreythomas3633]

Yep

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Yup

[@borischan5252]

Darth Vader: The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force

[@DarthCuddlefluff]

There are ancient Je'daii and Jedi ruins on Alderaan full of old secrets. Only a FOOL would waste perfectly useful resources by destroying them in a display of power.

[@guestsuperguest403]

Thank you, people like generation tech keep over hyping sideous and anakin and praising them to the point where youd think they're perfect and without flaws, it's nice see someone who is willing to examine their flaws and not treat them as infallible

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

Bane and sidious seem to have their own versions of the sith philosophy.

[@LuckySethOFC]

Cause bane was smart unlike our sith politician. Is it just me or is there a slow constrictive grasp on my throat? *gags

[@Alexander9924]

Sidious didn't destroy Alderaan though, Tarkin did, even Sidious was surprised about Tarkins decision of Destroying Alderaan, given its important place of being one of the longest planets in The Republic

[@BenLewitt]

I feel Alderaan was politically hostile to the Empire and had Bane been in Palpatine's shoes he'd have probably made the same decision. Targeting Alderaan made a statement while eliminating an influential and wealthy culture that was in stark opposition to the Empire.

[@vojtechjehlicka7000]

Ben Lewitt Not at all. When he destroyed human planet in the humancentric empire where everyone else was inferior and the entire rulling class was made up of humans, he created the perfect PR for the Rebelion. Since when not even humans are safe in Palpatine's regime, what of non-humans? And don't forget that most of Alderaan's two biillion inhabitants just wanted to live their lives without political agenda. Applying collective guilt would only cause more dissent. And of course it did.

[@ultratankie]

But is the destruction of Alderaan not heeding the lesson of "execute one, terrify one thousand" on a galactic scale? Alderaan wasn't senseless slaughter for the sake of being evil, it was a demonstration of terror. If the Death Star were truly as invulnerable as Sidious and Tarkin believed, it would have worked. The problem was their overconfidence.

[@Lonewolf-jv5yo]

On Sidious defense it was Tarkin who made the decision not him and he too was surprise that the governor destroyed the core word as he thought he would destroy just uninhabitable planet but he was wrong

[@DarthAlphaTheGreat]

Sidious didn’t. Tarkin did. Also Sidious would call Bane old. Also Tarkin would argue it was not “unnecessary”, as he explained it was a planet who is against the Empire AND it is a good demonstration of the Empire’s power. So...not really...

[@giannism-330r9]

can you make a video explaining who is Darth Bane and his 'journey' in order to become who he was.for example if he had taken part in the great war against the jedi and what was his rank amongst the other Sith , if there were other antagonist before he becomes the strongest Sith lord of his era and how he did disposed them.etc,,,Thank you so much for your videos and your time!

[@Tkhaikovski]

That's why Darth Bane is the Sith'ari, the ultimate Sith.