Why denazification failed

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@fosterfuchs
@fosterfuchs 2 ай бұрын
My maternal grandfather knew what Hitler was up to when he came to power. As a practicing Christian, he refused to become a member of the Nazi party. Since he was a civil servant, working at his local city hall, this was detrimental to him. He was refused promotions because he was not a party member (the official reason given). His boss protected him from further repercussions. But during WWII, my grandfather was drafted into the German Army and he was killed in action on the Eastern Front. After the war (in the American occupied zone), his supervisor paid a visit to my grandmother. He asked for a "Persilschein" - a character witness from her that he could use during denazification, because he had protected her late husband. Seeing that he had perished during the war, she told him to bugger off.
@joem715
@joem715 2 ай бұрын
Persilschein....my mother told me about these. Basically washing oneself clean like with the laundry product by getting a good character on a piece of paper. I had completely forgotten about those until I read your comment. And I'm very sorry about your grandfather. I had an uncle on the Eastern Front, who ended up as a Russian POW. Luckily he made it back home.
@liammeech3702
@liammeech3702 2 ай бұрын
Your grandfather's supervisor protected him, risking his own skin, but the widow couldn't repay it, sorry am I missing something here?
@fosterfuchs
@fosterfuchs 2 ай бұрын
Since my grandfather ended up dying in the war he had been drafted into, she no longer took his supervisor's prior behavior into consideration.
@mladenmatosevic4591
@mladenmatosevic4591 2 ай бұрын
I understand her feelings, but mid level civil servant had no say in mobilization matters and could hardly do much to resist. Difference showed in actions like diligence or ignoring implementation of Nazi policies.
@dorianblue4229
@dorianblue4229 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@liammeech3702 in Italy it was very similar, most or all professionals had to get a party member card just to practise their job. I suppose - what the upper comment leaves to our understanding - this guy didnt do much, just protected him from beatings, persecutions etc. BUT it sounds like normally one in his position, age, etc., untrained by profession, wouldnt normally have been drawn to the Eastern Front on the frontlines, in the end. Which, was in many cases, was a way for the regime to get rid of people. Just one step before sending them to camps. In fact, it sounds like the supervisor didnt go to war himself. Just my two cents...
@nematolvajkergetok5104
@nematolvajkergetok5104 2 ай бұрын
Microsoft used to run a slogan in the 1990s and 2000s: "One operating system, one web, one browser!" They likely never saw that 1933 poster.
@red9man2130
@red9man2130 2 ай бұрын
Bill Gates is an evil psychopath. His ego is incredibly inflated for a MORON!
@nematolvajkergetok5104
@nematolvajkergetok5104 2 ай бұрын
@donaldjohnson-e8f That's Standartenführer Clippy for you!
@Winterwolf-fs3wh
@Winterwolf-fs3wh 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but Gates is the opposite of a nationalist and conservative.
@nematolvajkergetok5104
@nematolvajkergetok5104 2 ай бұрын
@@Winterwolf-fs3wh The only problem with Bill Gates is that he never had a proper necrology.
@user295295
@user295295 2 ай бұрын
Gates funds charities and foundations to influence government policy to regulate.in favour of his corporations. Per Mussolini's definition, Gates is a true fascist.
@craigsurette3438
@craigsurette3438 2 ай бұрын
I met a young fellow , when i was in my early 20s, who had some.....peculiar views on race and state power. As i got to know him, i learned how he was raised in part by his Grandparents, who had come to the US apparently because they were too valuable to leave in Germany. He described their private study , which had a bunch of subtle pro Nazi memorabilia in it. Some Germans werent very thoroughly De Nazified if they worked for the right people
@sixmax11
@sixmax11 Ай бұрын
you must be talking about von braun working for nasa
@heylolp9
@heylolp9 Ай бұрын
Some? De-Nazification wasn't even a goal for many of the Officials of the Post-War German Government, it was a thing that they inherited from the Allies It's why up until the 60s 70s and 80s, a time after many of the ex NS regime members had retired and been replaced Judges, Lawyers, Teachers etc don't grow on trees And the stock that's available are quite Brown So they just ignored it and paved a new public persona over it Which then later got worked through, but private holdouts naturally even still exist Because it's hard for some people to accept that even if Grandpa was a nice man to yourself, doesn't mean that Grandpa couldn't have been (and sometime still is) a devoted Nazi that avoided persecution with a "Persilschein"
@johnwaugh6518
@johnwaugh6518 2 ай бұрын
Sorry to see blurred out pictures to "sanitise" this. These things should not be hidden
@CupidFromKentucky
@CupidFromKentucky 2 ай бұрын
I agree.
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 2 ай бұрын
youtube demands it. a result of fake "community standards" and no commitment to allowing history to speak for itself.
@54mgtf22
@54mgtf22 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, KZbin takes your video down if you don’t.
@iatsd
@iatsd 2 ай бұрын
YT sets the terms, and Americans are prudes.
@alexlittle5237
@alexlittle5237 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, because of KZbins's policies, many people will never learn the true nature of Nazi atrocities.
@geraldarcuri9307
@geraldarcuri9307 2 ай бұрын
Very well done. After 55 years of studying WWII, I am still learning. Thanks! The photos of the atrocities in the museum should NOT have been blurred out.
@SafetySpooon
@SafetySpooon 2 ай бұрын
True, but the video might get demonetized.
@jeffkeith637
@jeffkeith637 2 ай бұрын
KZbin believes in revisionist history, unfortunately.
@Aidddddddddddddddddd
@Aidddddddddddddddddd 2 ай бұрын
@@SafetySpooon it’s probably already Demonized because the amount of the word “Nazi” and showing a swasitka many times
@mikemontgomery2654
@mikemontgomery2654 2 ай бұрын
You can thank YT for that censorship. Looks like they’re taking notes from ole German regime.
@baraka629
@baraka629 2 ай бұрын
KZbin is just very iffy about depictions of "family unfriendly" stuff and war crimes pretty muchc100% fall under that category
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 2 ай бұрын
I went to school in the early 1980s with a German girl who was in her early 20s. She was a closet Nazi, somebody who would reveal her support for the Nazi party and disdain for Jews in private to you if she knew you and trusted you. From what I could learn, she inherited this viewpoint from her mother and her grandmother who were both ardent Nazi sympathizers. From what I gathered, her grandmother was openly supportive of Hitler and didn't try to hide her beliefs. I was told that her mother and grandmother believed that the mistake the Germans made in WW2 was in their failure to win, not in the immorality of their fanatical ideology.
@Winterwolf-fs3wh
@Winterwolf-fs3wh 2 ай бұрын
Maybe she heard about the USS Liberty incident and who's pushing mass migration on Europe.
@ArmandoBellagio
@ArmandoBellagio 2 ай бұрын
Don't know how representative she is though. There are many also who are ashamed of their ancestors Nazi past.
@ruhr45
@ruhr45 2 ай бұрын
womp womp
@Shapar95
@Shapar95 2 ай бұрын
Well, that’s a easy worldview to keep - as long as the Soviet union sat at the victory table or the British empire for that matter. They’re all just shades of evil, some darker some lighter but evil nonetheless.
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 2 ай бұрын
@@ruhr45 Is this some form of secret communication?
@johnvaleanbaily246
@johnvaleanbaily246 2 ай бұрын
I was a Brit soldier from 1965 - 1973 based in Germany. Used to go skiing in Bavaria every winter. Nearly every Gasthaüs we went would have (on occasion, not all the time) groups of 40+ year old men singing the Horst Wessel song as well as other Nazi and German WW2 songs. We actually got on fairly well (they knew we were Brits), but Hitler wasn't forgotten nearly 30 years later.
@bob_the_bomb4508
@bob_the_bomb4508 2 ай бұрын
I was also a Brit soldier in Germany 1983-88. I was at a ‘Schutzenfest’ in 1984 with my then girlfriend (herself German) when the same thing happened. Poor girl was really embarrassed…
@blitzkreig4887
@blitzkreig4887 2 ай бұрын
why should they forget him ?
@bugsygoo
@bugsygoo 2 ай бұрын
And now it seems the Austrians and East Germans are at it again.
@bookofdaveandsteve
@bookofdaveandsteve 2 ай бұрын
​@@blitzkreig4887 quite the username, there - obvious troll is obvious
@blitzkreig4887
@blitzkreig4887 2 ай бұрын
@@bookofdaveandsteve ohh I am sorry, but how is he any worse than Obama or Bush ? And lets not forget that war criminal Obama was awarded Nobel Peace Prize. They didn't give one to Gandhi, but Obama was fair game.
@Paijke88
@Paijke88 2 ай бұрын
The footage between 13:25 and 13:36 are definitely not german. The banners hung out of the building and the signs in the street are dutch, not german.
@dannyversmoren1284
@dannyversmoren1284 2 ай бұрын
They are a protest of the closing of this particulary building being a part of / belonging to UCL, Universitair Centrum Leiden, the local academic hospital. This Dutch 1960/70's material is now stock-photo for post-Nazi docus?
@wmkm7144
@wmkm7144 2 ай бұрын
Indeed - pretty certain this is footage from university protests in Brussels in the 1960s. In fact, a lot of the footage after 13:25 seems to mix up unrelated student protests in the 1960s.
@dirk1963
@dirk1963 2 ай бұрын
@@wmkm7144 volgens mij beelden van 'Leuven Vlaams'.
@jcsahnwaldt
@jcsahnwaldt 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the "U.C.L." on the banner at 13:25 is very likely the Université catholique de Louvain in Brussels, and the Galeries Anspach (the name is visible in the top right corner after 13:30) are in Brussels as well.
@whitehawk4099
@whitehawk4099 Ай бұрын
Very odd mixup.
@Huckleberry.69
@Huckleberry.69 2 ай бұрын
Moral of the story, if you are part of a horrific regime, just make sure you are good at your job, then if things go south for those in charge, you might be useful to the new bosses, you might even get a promotion.
@steadfastsawyer
@steadfastsawyer 2 ай бұрын
@@Huckleberry.69 NASA interview!
@bele2.041
@bele2.041 2 ай бұрын
Soviets were never held responsible for invading Poland and Finland or their numerous war crimes.
@iatsd
@iatsd 2 ай бұрын
And? US forces were never held responsible for the 50,000+ documented rapes and 5000+ murders they committed in Germany in 1945-46. NO ONE has clean hands.
@01NATHAN10
@01NATHAN10 2 ай бұрын
antisemitic bro chill
@marceldavis5600
@marceldavis5600 2 ай бұрын
Neither was the US for nuking or overthrowing other governemnts. So what's supposed to be with this whataboutism?
@vcjuul9190
@vcjuul9190 2 ай бұрын
I forgot, was Poland ever held responsible for invading Czechoslovakia together with their buddy Addie?
@joe4171
@joe4171 2 ай бұрын
That’s what happened when you win wars…
@Will-yy7cg
@Will-yy7cg 2 ай бұрын
Interesting choice to mention Operation Paperclip but not Surgeon (British equivalent but much smaller) or Osoaviakhim (Soviet, almost twice as many people)
@ernesthill4017
@ernesthill4017 2 ай бұрын
I've never heard of these projects. I will research them. Thank you, sir 😊
@stereomachine
@stereomachine 2 ай бұрын
Similar discussion should be held for Japan. It wasn't successful there.
@simongee8928
@simongee8928 2 ай бұрын
The Japanese ideology was completely different to the German / European way of thinking. To the Japanese, their Emperor was a God and revered as such. The fact that he survived the war says much for the Allied viewpoint on this.
@phillip4213
@phillip4213 2 ай бұрын
I'd argue it was even more succesful there.
@stereomachine
@stereomachine 2 ай бұрын
@@phillip4213 Tell that to Nippon Kaigi.
@stereomachine
@stereomachine 2 ай бұрын
@@simongee8928 What about the part where war crime denial is still rampant there
@iatsd
@iatsd 2 ай бұрын
@@stereomachine You've clearly never been to Japan. War crime denial is certainly a cottage industry there - by the extreme right wing - but the general public doesn't buy into it. The general public are far more aware of their country's war crimes than the public of ANY nation on the Allied side.
@andrewcombe8907
@andrewcombe8907 2 ай бұрын
Denazification was most badly needed in the police but never fully achieved. Many senior police were war criminals who had served in the Schutzpolizei or Ordungspolizei and been involved in the extermination of Jews and oppression of occupied countries. The book “Ordinary Men” documents this problem.
@arvedludwig3584
@arvedludwig3584 2 ай бұрын
Don't want to be a spanner, but it's Schutzpolizei. Combination of schützen (to protect) and Polizei (police). Quite an ironic nomenclature.
@Maple_Cadian
@Maple_Cadian 2 ай бұрын
Another Christopher Browning fan.
@whiteheatherclub
@whiteheatherclub 2 ай бұрын
It wasn't justb the police. Many Nazi judges managed to hang on to their jobs.
@etownzu
@etownzu 2 ай бұрын
Yes thank you for making that point known. The US Army soon after starting "denazification" they stopped for a multitude of reasons including how many Nazi party members they needed to allow to take positions of control inorder to begin the process of creating order in war torn Germany and the collective guilt they sought to instil in the German populace quickly began to turn into collective resentment towards the allies in a similar way that the Treaty of Versailles formed resentment with Interwar Germany and the allies of WW1. Too often the story of denazification is told as a success when the reality is we failed miserably at denazifying Germany let alone Europe. Add to this the obvious attempts by all Post War powers to grab Nazi and Fascist Japanese Scientists, we willingly turned a blind eye out of convenience.
@Jamietheroadrunner
@Jamietheroadrunner 2 ай бұрын
Same in France. To this day the French police have a serious issue with brutality that stemmed from ex Nazis becoming police officers after WW2.
@DrMikeOckhertz
@DrMikeOckhertz 2 ай бұрын
If you were born in 1925 in Germany you'd have joined the Junior Hitler Youth in 1935, the Hitler Youth in 1939 and the German Army in 1942. All your life you'd have been indoctrinated in Nazi ideology and may we'll have believed in that ideology after the war, whatever the requirements of "denazification". If you then decided to help rebuild post-war Germany and got a job in the civil service, police, military or private industry and gained promotion as your career progressed it's possible that you retired at 70 in 1995, having been a Nazi all your life. It's arguable that Germany was rebuilt and run (at least in part) by Nazis until the 1990s. "Denazification" was a sop that allowed the Allies to do business with millions of Nazis with a clear(ish) conscience knowing that without Nazi help Germany would descend into bloody and expensive anarchy that would then be exploited by Stalin. Look at the mess in Iraq following the fall of Saddam and the dismantling of the Ba'ath Party. It's partly in such a bad state now because the Allies failed to engage with the former party members under the wrong impression that total "de-Ba'athification" was necessary. That led to civil war and exactly the sort of anarchy avoided in Germany in 1945. We didn't learn from 1945.
@seandavies5130
@seandavies5130 2 ай бұрын
Its interesting the extent to which the allies wanted to drive home to the germans their collective guilt. But in recent times when some people in UK and USA wanted to raise awareness of the war crimes USA and UK committed, suddenly the enthusiasm for truth and reconciliation vanishes. For example, the UK did concentration camps first in the second boer war, which was essentially fought for the gold and diamonds in the boer republics. I also found out very recently that many UK colonies burned tonnes of colonial records
@mueezadam8438
@mueezadam8438 2 ай бұрын
Unlike Europe, the Anglo-sphere never got rid of its royals. I read national archives for personal research and I’ll tell you what, the most racist and inhumane rhetoric are written by senior officers, which in British empire were usually nobles by birth. The only time a war time atrocity will come to light is when it’s done by a commoner OR European noble. It’s silly to imagine Lords like Churchill or the British royal family were somehow divorced from notions of blood purity and superiority
@WillN2Go1
@WillN2Go1 2 ай бұрын
Spartacus Olsen of the WWII Channel has argued convincingly that by 1942 every German knew what was going on, that people were imprisoned in concentration camps, brutally treated, starved, summarily shot, and that mass murder was taking place. He showed photos of concentration camp prisoners being marched through German cities and towns while German civilians were just going about their day. And Nazi war criminal trials haven't 'taken place.' This is using the passive voice as if something just happened. Nazi war crimes arrests had stopped until Israel's Mossad captured Eichman and brought him to trial in Israel, and it the Klarsfelds, Serge & Beate, and Simon Wiesenthal who hunted mass murderers and forced governments to make arrests and hold trials. The best thing aspect of Denazification is that brave people were relentless in pursuing these criminals, giving them no rest. But it wasn't the victorious allies who made this happen. The Nuremburg trials were a good start, they should've kept going. What would the world look like in 2024 if leaders committing mass murder of civilians and illegal war crimes knew it would only lead to their arrest, trial and imprisonment?
@michaelmazowiecki9195
@michaelmazowiecki9195 2 ай бұрын
Only partly so as the Allies , especially the US, took a "pragmatic" that is, self serving approach in Germany. In Austria little, if anything, was done about the Nazis who were 10% of the adult population which was a much higher % than in Germany.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 2 ай бұрын
It's always Austrians involved at the start of 100% of World Wars.
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewoliver8930 The greatest trick the Austrians pulled is to convince the world that Mozart was Austrian and that Hitler was German.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 2 ай бұрын
@@Kaiserboo1871 🤔 Good point.
@clownpendotfart
@clownpendotfart 2 ай бұрын
Germany never invaded another country again, so the errors of WW1 were indeed not repeated. From the perspective of the allies, denazification did not fail but was 100% successful. You could attribute that to military occupation & division rather than denazaification per se, but the desired result happened anyway.
@arvedludwig3584
@arvedludwig3584 2 ай бұрын
It took some self sacrifice and hard work from German individuals to bring change and even today new scandals are being uncovered about the nazi past that defined the new republic. Examples of that are the BND intentionally recruiting former Nazis to become agents.
@greeninja2728
@greeninja2728 2 ай бұрын
When your split up for 45 years and your national spirit crushed, it’s pretty hard to think about rejuvenation let alone invasion of other countries
@willc1294
@willc1294 2 ай бұрын
@@greeninja2728 they're only starting to think about returning to their own ways in their minds now...
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in Eastern Europe: Thank you! You have freed us! Soviets: I wouldn't called it freed. More like under new management!
@doberski6855
@doberski6855 2 ай бұрын
Sad but very true.
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 2 ай бұрын
Indeed yes, illustrated by the absence of our Polish allies from the Victory Parade through the streets of London and the ad hoc manner that eastern and Central Europe was arrogantly claimed by the victors and I have to say that the ailing health of President Roosevelt was a huge factor in this as his beliefs and character were crucial for the dealings with the Sowjet Union and Stalin in particular but fate was not on our side back in that time. Keep them coming please and many thanks for all the work that you do for us all. ☘️🇬🇧📚
@maxsonthonax1020
@maxsonthonax1020 2 ай бұрын
Fantasy.
@MJ2A
@MJ2A 2 ай бұрын
@@maxsonthonax1020nah it’s true
@Deathmastertx
@Deathmastertx 2 ай бұрын
Poland and the Baltic states have long memories if you look at their current investments in defense and contributions to Ukraine.
@-DC-
@-DC- 2 ай бұрын
As V stated Ideas are Bulletproof, So no the ideology lives on like it or not.
@sercangok523
@sercangok523 25 күн бұрын
Many ideas were effectively killed in the Soviet Union. You just need an effective, strict authoritarian system and time. And perhaps other indoctrination to replace it.
@plunder1956
@plunder1956 2 ай бұрын
Many of the people I grew up around were involved in WW2 in some way. My dad in occupied Denmark, my mom in ENSA in London. Many relatives & old friends serving in the armed services, or part of the resistance in Denmark. Even my accountant was a British pay clerk at Nuremberg. The vast scale of WW2 ment that tens of millions remembered the war years in detail.
@RadioJonophone
@RadioJonophone 2 ай бұрын
During the early 1960s when I was at school in North London, memories of the Second World War influenced older people's thinking. I tried to understand how a jumped up corporal could hoodwink a population into a frenzy of murder and destruction. I was an avid reader; Shirer's "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" was a sombre eye opener. I concluded that the circumstances of economic collapse and social oppression formed a fertile ground for the seeds of patriotism to flourish into a national movement. Each corn stalk was weak, but together the field swayed in unison. I tried to tell my friends at school of the dangers of patriotism, jingoism, and following charismatic leaders without question. I was shot down at every turn. After all, didn't that nice Mr. Macmillan say that we'd never had it so good? A couple of boys reported me to the Headmaster for being a Nazi sympathiser. They had missed the point by a country mile. They won. I shut up about it, but my belief remains that populations can be led into the abyss of evil by tub thumping, self-serving, malignant narcissists dishing up their witches' brew of "traditional values", "return to greatness", and "crush the enemies of freedom".
@markotrieste
@markotrieste 2 ай бұрын
@@RadioJonophone in one word, Trump.
@red9man2130
@red9man2130 2 ай бұрын
How ironic that You came to these flawed conclusions. You sound like a Brit influenced by Socialism (Fabian). I suppose the English Empire offends You. For the record I descend from a Pilgrim. The problem with Germany and Europe in many respects is a blind obedience to "authority". What now strikes me as tragic is seeing the emasculation of the Western European peoples! Are YOu aware that the ruling class in Britain feared a Marxist uprising and THAT was the origin of "gun control" in Britain.
@Davey-Boyd
@Davey-Boyd 2 ай бұрын
@@markotrieste I was about to say the same
@cfroi08
@cfroi08 2 ай бұрын
Demogogues, another danger of democracy and how it will hold the hand of a tyrant to the throne.
@Jarod-vg9wq
@Jarod-vg9wq 2 ай бұрын
Don’t stop talking about it in public your should have never stopped
@greygalah
@greygalah 2 ай бұрын
That was really good. The problems of the Allies' attempt to address the cultural and political rise of militarism in Germany were amplified in Japan. Thus the rise of denial and revisionism allows indisputable facts to be ignored. If we don't learn from history, we'll be subjected to it again. Isn't that happening now?
@Vicente-en2zx
@Vicente-en2zx 2 ай бұрын
Have you heard of repetition brother? You need to see the same things multiple times to finally master it, or I guess fighting immoral and in efficient leadership I suppose.
@jeremyfdavies
@jeremyfdavies 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Congratulations to the people who put this together.
@DevenTurner-gk6dd
@DevenTurner-gk6dd 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think you can really claim denazification failed. Germany is a very open, tolerant and welcoming society. The main reason people are still obsessed with the Nazi regime is because they were winning for the first two years of the war. People like to ponder on the German army at the gates of Moscow and the blitz across France. They were a very strong force and the regional power of Europe. It took supplies from the United States to keep Russia and Britain in the fight. People fail to grasp that the Nazi’s were also really stupid. Not letting general Paulus break out of Stalingrad was one of the biggest mistakes of the war. Nobody today or the “neo Nazi’s” would have wanted to serve in Hitlers army. It wasn’t a glorious sacrifice for the riech when you are just throwing away hundreds of thousands of men. Germany could have delayed their demise by years had they not needlessly sacrificed the majority of their military strength. They wouldn’t even allow their troops to layer defensive positions because Hitler didn’t like defensive strategy and thought little offensive actions would suffice. So despite genius strategy from the German generals. The Russians were able to penetrate through the entire front. Again and again. Obviously, there were some problems. Romanticize them as a master race is just not accurate considering how incredibly stupid they could be at times
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy 21 сағат бұрын
Most of that stupidity came from Hitler himself. That's the problem with dictatorships, they stand or fall according to the talents of their leader. The allies made several attempts to kill Hitler but they gave up in December 1943 because they realised that he was more valuable to the allies if he was still alive.
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 Ай бұрын
The irony about denazification was that the Western powers at the time also had their own problems with racism and discrimination. Anti-misiscegnation laws and segregation were still in force in parts of the US. Britain and France were colonial powers at the time while the Soviets didnt have a very clean record with their gulags and Russification policies. Denazification failed due to the internal contradictions of the four Allied powers.
@Sean-p3o
@Sean-p3o Ай бұрын
Must be wonderful to be so self righteous
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 18 күн бұрын
You shouldn't worry too much about it. Most men that lose one of their testicles go on to live normal and fulfilling lives.
@changsan608
@changsan608 Ай бұрын
You can't kill Ideology
@jewishnationalist
@jewishnationalist Ай бұрын
its dead like monarchism
@ironhalocorp
@ironhalocorp Ай бұрын
It's true ... for now. The time of 'empires' is past, but they have a chance of revival. It's human nature.
@kommando5562
@kommando5562 Ай бұрын
@@jewishnationalistvictory or Valhalla
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 18 күн бұрын
You can. But it takes a strong stomach.
@janvisser4132
@janvisser4132 2 ай бұрын
I know that Germany didn't abruptly change from Nazism to being good guys, it did take more time. Which is understandable when you look at the integration of Nazism into German society in the 30's. But the gradual change Germany went through after WW2 is enormous, and one of the most successful ones for a country ever. Germany is far better at recognizing and dealing with their past than Britain is with their colonial history. While a lot of German war criminals evaded justice, so did the ones from the Soviet Union and the other allies. And to this day they rarely take a critical look at their own history, when Germany did. Current Germany has a lot of flaws but is still the most successful country in Europe. The rise of AfD is worrying, but even that is worse in most other European countries right now. My country was occupied by Germany, but I am glad they changed and that we can be good neighbors now.
@greeninja2728
@greeninja2728 2 ай бұрын
Recognising and dealing with the past means to submit and humiliate your history on the basis of 4 years
@victorsamsung2921
@victorsamsung2921 2 ай бұрын
The rise of AfD is a consequence of globalism, greed and hubris over nationalism, patriotism and liberty. Concerning many citizens in East Germany have been feeling missed out and taken advantage off by a vengeful west-germany and Brussels (which Germany controls). As Angela Merkel noted in her farewell speech: "it is as if the history of East Germans did *not* matter". Let the third reich be a reminder that globalism never leads to anything good that lasts long.
@user295295
@user295295 2 ай бұрын
The surpression of free speech and banning political thought presently done by the present german government is far more fascist than any platform that the AfD have to date launched.
@deutschesvaterlandfankanal
@deutschesvaterlandfankanal 2 ай бұрын
@@janvisser4132 and why do you think the afd is rising,hmmm???
@rosaria8384
@rosaria8384 2 ай бұрын
I would say denazification is a mixed bag. There was a sense of collective punishment, selective justice, truth propaganda, and worst of all, the influence of communism east of the Iron Curtain. You can really tell the victors wanted to really demonize the Nazi regime as best they can, but at the cost of minimizing humanitarian help (other than the Marshall Plan for the west German lands). Neo-Nazism was born in this time, and still exists today, unfortunately. Denazification also crushed German pride due to the collective punishment and shame it endures to this day. Though I would really want to learn more through peer review, so feel free to educate me and others on the subject down in the comments. I could be wrong with this.
@kurtwagner350
@kurtwagner350 2 ай бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Trials especially should’ve been a free for all that held everyone accountable, even allies who committed war crimes. It’s also true that they lost the German identity because it was so tied to N***’s, but failed to replace it with anything positive. In my limited experience from visiting Germany when I was young, despite enjoying my trip I couldn’t help but feel the distinct lack of unique culture relative to its neighboring European nations.
@greeninja2728
@greeninja2728 2 ай бұрын
Financiers of Churchill and FDR wanted to humiliate germany and remove any pride from existing. Which you see even today
@TheStudio-div
@TheStudio-div 2 ай бұрын
Especially what happens to 2 millions German woman and 14 millions who were expel from eastern germany. I believe history should view their suffering after end of war too
@constantinexi3743
@constantinexi3743 2 ай бұрын
Actually a good video shedding light on a topic not often discussed. nicely done.
@michaelgro5474
@michaelgro5474 Ай бұрын
1:07 The writing on the board is in English. Was that scene taken from a movie? If so, which one?
@AaronMichaelLong
@AaronMichaelLong 2 ай бұрын
Who says it failed? Last I checked, Germany wasn't annexing neighboring countries. How complete must your triumph be, exactly?
@etownzu
@etownzu 2 ай бұрын
The US army literally called their own efforts to Denazify Germany a failure........ They noticed their attempts to instil collective guilt instead began fomenting collective resentment towards the Allies in a similar way to the Treaty of Versailles during/Post WW1. Out of fear of a growing cold war with the soviet's the US deemed it more beneficial to stop the process of denazifying Germany and instead allowed former members of the Nazi Party to regain positions of power in everything from local governments to local police and defense forces.
@wolffromrome9284
@wolffromrome9284 2 ай бұрын
it wasn't the denazification the reason why Germany isn't starting to annex a country or a piece of land from another country.
@AaronMichaelLong
@AaronMichaelLong 2 ай бұрын
@@wolffromrome9284 Which is why I'm disputing the thesis that it failed.
@samwiseknows
@samwiseknows 2 ай бұрын
Last I checked, Germany was running the EU....
@hilkovanwalraven3111
@hilkovanwalraven3111 2 ай бұрын
@@samwiseknows checked the wrong books i see
@AlexS-oj8qf
@AlexS-oj8qf Ай бұрын
I think the issue is that it is seen and often treated as de-germanization. Nazi and German identity are so tangled and intertwined that you can’t alter one without also altering the other. The fact that there is ban on the National Anthems if both East and West since that have words like “Fatherland” is just insane to me.
@bernardobiritiki
@bernardobiritiki Ай бұрын
There is no ban on the german National anthem ,the germans just consider it bad taste to Sing it. They dont like the first 2 stranzas , but there absolutly no bad on it
@xbmpr
@xbmpr Ай бұрын
It was Hitler’s ultimate goal and unfortunately he achieved it from a lot of people. He loved grifting old German traditions, symbols and stories to get the people to rally behind him.
@michaelgro5474
@michaelgro5474 Ай бұрын
​@@bernardobiritiki Exactly. The current German national anthem was written long time ago. The first two stanzas reflect the fights of that time. They were settled long time ago, so these stanzas are inappropriate today. There were several attempts to find a new national anthem but we couldn't agree on any of the alternatives. Whereby that third stanzas is still beautiful. Its about the slogan of the modern, progressive Germany: Unity, justice, freedom.
@bernardobiritiki
@bernardobiritiki Ай бұрын
@@michaelgro5474 The anthem of the former east germany should have absolutly been the anthem of a Unified german state. Its lyrics are beautiful and a great acknowlagement of germanies past and hope for the future. Sadly it will never shed its association with comunism dispite the lyrics not mentioning it
@RedStarRogue
@RedStarRogue 2 ай бұрын
My aunt was a university student in Ontario in the 1970s and was forced to live off campus with an old German couple. She says they generally treated her like crap, and at dinner would go on about how Hitler was a great leader etc. She finished the story with "I'm glad most of these people have since grown old and died."
@theirishbandit7301
@theirishbandit7301 2 ай бұрын
This is such a great presentation!
@tommcfadden5902
@tommcfadden5902 2 ай бұрын
Have spent years in Austria and can personally so No
@Randomstuffs261
@Randomstuffs261 2 ай бұрын
Austria is special
@Melior_Traiano
@Melior_Traiano 2 ай бұрын
Because Austria acted like a victim of Nazi Germany, whereas they had been celebrating when Germany annexed them.
@zigzigzig
@zigzigzig 2 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it
@kommando5562
@kommando5562 Ай бұрын
Die Gedanken sind frei!
@Tjalve70
@Tjalve70 2 ай бұрын
Short answer: It was too expensive, and took too much effort. So they couldn't be bothered.
@chuckkottke
@chuckkottke 2 ай бұрын
The problems we did not completely solve can come back to haunt us. Thank you Imperial War Museum for this video. ⚖️
@richtaylor2129
@richtaylor2129 17 күн бұрын
Having been to IWM London & seeing the holocaust exhibits (years before before the revamp), it still scares me what human beings do to each other. R.I.P to the victims
@opieangst
@opieangst Ай бұрын
Nazis: Burns books, symbols, and people. Allies after Victory: Burns Books, Symbols, and People.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 18 күн бұрын
It's okay if this content is above your grade level or cognitive ability. What matters is that you keep trying to learn, despite your challenges with your special needs learning disabilities.
@opieangst
@opieangst 18 күн бұрын
@@subcitizen2012 HYUCK, Gee golly, Bubbah. Thanks ya a bunch! HYUCK!
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh 11 күн бұрын
That is a eternal truth! Be saluted!
@filiphlupic1582
@filiphlupic1582 2 ай бұрын
Just to be clear, in German law of the time was said that citizens of Germany can be those of germanic origin and affiliated blood. So other Europeans were also citizens of the Reich, not only Germans. Racist and excluding, but still less rigid than said.
@jovanweismiller7114
@jovanweismiller7114 2 ай бұрын
Not ALL Nazi laws were repealed. The Nazi era laws against home-schooling are still on the books in the Federal Republic of Germany.
@Keimzelle
@Keimzelle 2 ай бұрын
And rightly so. Homeschooling doesn't really follow any standards. All of Europe has similar laws that allow homeschooling only under very strict regulations.
@joe4171
@joe4171 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@Keimzelle😂. Thats cute, you think that’s why they don’t want homeschooling? If you don’t grow up in, and be taught by the system ….you won’t be part of the system. Nazis banned homeschooling so they could impression young children, post-Nazi Germany kept it….so they could continue.
@joe4171
@joe4171 2 ай бұрын
No sense in losing the asset that is molding your society through its impressionable youth 😂
@tiikkifi
@tiikkifi 2 ай бұрын
Broken clock is correct twice a day. Home schooling should be extremely tightly controlled. We need population to receive science based education, not religious propaganda like creationism.
@grahamstevenson1740
@grahamstevenson1740 2 ай бұрын
Are you suggesting that home schooling is an admirable idea ? It has no place in a modern functional society. Uniform standards of education are important. Home schooling leads to sub-standard education.
@JensvKakerken
@JensvKakerken Ай бұрын
13:26, I’m sorry, but those are Dutch-language banners.
@whbrown1862
@whbrown1862 2 ай бұрын
An outstanding presentation. Extremely informative.
@IvorTheEngine
@IvorTheEngine 2 ай бұрын
Interesting choice on the change of video title.
@TetsugakuSan
@TetsugakuSan 2 ай бұрын
Censoring and blurring the images is a crime shame on you.
@iatsd
@iatsd 2 ай бұрын
YT sets the terms, and Americans are prudes.
@bloqk16
@bloqk16 2 ай бұрын
It was probably done so that KZbin would not block the video from public viewing. KZbin has rules when it comes to displaying images that they may deem as being objectionable for being sordidly graphic. I used to be a content creator myself, where treading lightly was the strategy to take if I didn't want my videos being blocked, or, being subjected to a violation strike. Three strikes and the channel shuts down.
@runglerhz5590
@runglerhz5590 2 ай бұрын
13:26 shows pictures of people holding two big banners from a building. I'm extremely curious why the Imperial War Museum chose these images in this particular video as the text on the banner is in DUTCH not German. So I'm very much suspecting a mistake here...
@Toe_Merchant
@Toe_Merchant 2 ай бұрын
6:03 This fellow's mustache needs to be denazifired, he's tried so hard to channel his Fuhrer lol
@FyNuwG
@FyNuwG 2 ай бұрын
Image at 13.25 is unrelated to this topic (catholic university of Louvain becoming a Dutch-spoken university, UCL as part of the language-struggle for Dutch in Flanders which took place in the 1960s). This has nothing to do with denazification in Germany .
@robertdacquisto6871
@robertdacquisto6871 2 ай бұрын
It was not successful. Millions and millions of people were strongly affected by it. Many of those people had children, and passed on some of their beliefs and experiences onto them. That doesn't just go away.
@badart3204
@badart3204 Ай бұрын
It was successful at pacifying Germany. They weren’t going to slaughter entire family lines which is the logical conclusion of what you are saying
@pop5678eye
@pop5678eye 28 күн бұрын
Compare this with the US granting blanket immunity to the entire imperial family in Japan despite overwhelming evidence of responsibility and guilt not just by the emperor but several of the princes. While there is a need to make peace and ensure stability the Allies deliberately let far too many war criminals evade justice.
@capt.jackaubrey5281
@capt.jackaubrey5281 2 ай бұрын
So pyschological warfare then. Sounds very ethical
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 18 күн бұрын
Given the context of the history, yes, it was very ethical.
@capt.jackaubrey5281
@capt.jackaubrey5281 18 күн бұрын
@ there was nothing ethical in what the allies did to Germany and the German people after the war
@Crissy_the_wonder
@Crissy_the_wonder 2 ай бұрын
How different the post-Nazi German confrontation with the past with the failure of that in Japan
@VonRyansExpress-v3r
@VonRyansExpress-v3r 2 ай бұрын
Its a pity De-Communisation has been such a total failure - despite being responsible for over a hundred million deaths and countless millions of lives lived in terror, poverty, subjugation and tyranny, it is still with us . . .
@luanasari5161
@luanasari5161 2 ай бұрын
Morr of a fault of despotic authoritharianism. Marx never said anything about dekulakization, lysenkoism or pogroms
@VonRyansExpress-v3r
@VonRyansExpress-v3r 2 ай бұрын
@@luanasari5161 You've missed the point - the repeal of Communisn however it may be Governed and implemented, or however it may relate to the hideous Marx, is conspicuous by its absence . . One of the reasons for this tragic situation is the use of such things as De-Nazification as a cover for even deeper entrenchment of extreme Left ideologies . . . "Don't look here - look over there" . . . Humanity must turn a corner on this while it still can, or it will find Tyranny engulfing humanity in its entirety - just as the Globalists plan . .
@VonRyansExpress-v3r
@VonRyansExpress-v3r 2 ай бұрын
@@luanasari5161 indeed - I did answer your comment but although it was perfectly reasonable - KZbin censored it - no discussion therefore possible . .
@arvedludwig3584
@arvedludwig3584 2 ай бұрын
What you are talking about is mostly the Russian and Chinese spirit, as can be seen in today's war on Ukraine, waged by Russia. No care for the individual and cruel punishments. And as for China? They always had it with Sinicization.
@thesmallerhalf1968
@thesmallerhalf1968 2 ай бұрын
Totalitarian states that purport to be communist are claims that should be viewed with scepticism. The excesses and atrocities of extreme regimes are indistinguishable regardless of their position on the political spectrum. How do you differentiate between Stalinist massacres and Nazi massacres? Their politics are irrelevant in the end, it is their thirst for power that poisons and taints societies.
@jamestregler1584
@jamestregler1584 2 ай бұрын
And sadly Britain today ?
@MrCSutton
@MrCSutton 2 ай бұрын
A very interesting programme, thank you. But if you're going to blur the terrible scenes in some of the photographs, you blunt the message. They were awful in 1945 and are still awful today. But hiding them can only fuel apologists for the crimes and risk them being repeated. (If you've had to do it to stop KZbin deleting the video, shame on KZbin.)
@iska788
@iska788 2 ай бұрын
Great video
@craigsurette3438
@craigsurette3438 2 ай бұрын
The problem with much of this "de Nazification" is that no one in Germany really had much choice as to whether they publicly supported the Nazi party. You either were a good Nazi, or you were killed. Thus, everyone was complicit in all sorts of horrors, because everyone knew, that they needed to play along, or end up next in line on the cattlecar, or next in front of the firing squad. Even the various resistance movements or brave individuals who tried to resist on their own, were still at the very least publicly complicit ,Heck even someone like Schindler was "on paper" a Nazi, who ran a work camp
@marcteenhc9793
@marcteenhc9793 2 ай бұрын
BS. Nobody was being killed for not supporting the III Reich, at least not until the end of the war when the country descended into chaos. Not being part of the NSDAP did not made you part of the "opposition" automatically, people could not be one or the other and just have a normal life...unless they were a minority (opressed), or part of the government(were it was expected for you to be a nazi supporter or active mebmer).
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 2 ай бұрын
thats not completely true organisations like the eizansgruppen soldiers knew they could back out without punishment and be assigned other duties they just comited to it anyway
@gavanwhatever8196
@gavanwhatever8196 2 ай бұрын
Nonsense. The Nazis were not going around killing Germans for not being 'good Nazis'. They were quite content for the average German to just keep their mouth shut.
@suburbanyobbo9412
@suburbanyobbo9412 2 ай бұрын
@@kingthomasthehun8408You missed the point completely.
@eduarda2221
@eduarda2221 2 ай бұрын
that is not actually true. During the Nuremberg trials, Nazi war crimi nal Erich von dem Bach Zelewski, who turned witness for the prosecution in exchange for amnesty, declared that there was no policy for punishment or demotion if you refused an assignment to kill people. Despite this, almost no assignments were ever refused. German culture is that of obedience and blind respect for authority, it is predisposed to fasscism. This fact should not be shyed away from.
@KarlKarpfen
@KarlKarpfen 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: The guards of the Nuremberg trials were all from a SS-unit.
@oxvancool8310
@oxvancool8310 2 ай бұрын
not all but some
@bc5cd
@bc5cd 2 ай бұрын
Failed? It was modelled on the Germans and deployed against all European ethnicities the world over with considerable success. More and more have noticed this pernicious act and the perpetrators who are trying to destroy Europeans peoples today. The perpetrators are the types that historically have never been able to help themselves…
@XandateOfHeaven
@XandateOfHeaven Ай бұрын
What are you talking about?
@kommando5562
@kommando5562 Ай бұрын
@@XandateOfHeaven becoming a ethnic minority in your own nation and all your family,cultures, and peoples things deemed hate symbols waycsist etc. push of collective guilt, and pathetic disenfranchisement by all institutions. When we supposedly won this war but anyone everyone ik who fought them and me their offspring we are nahtzees
@kommando5562
@kommando5562 Ай бұрын
@@XandateOfHeaven until very recently you had these people we supposedly saved from this war with very supreme power erasing symbols and history and shutting down anyone anti immigration or for preserving said history,culture,symbols, people. To dystopian levels you still see the influence with black rock and ESG in all of west especially US. To get you to remember somthing you’ll never unsee look at how racially disproportionate advertising or shows are Now more people know than ever but the past few years have been wild ride and I’m quite optimistic
@FrankensteinDIYkayak
@FrankensteinDIYkayak 2 ай бұрын
one factor which rarely gets mentioned is the effect of meth on germany. germany learned to synthesize it as part of autarky just after WWI. they increased purity, decreased cost, and did it on an industrial scale. there are many videos out on it. i think it might be hard to tell where the effects of meth ends and the fanaticism begins. how many historians have had to put up with meth heads in their neighborhoods? there is a good book out on the issue as well called the nazi war on meth or something but i can dig it up. hitler himself was on drugs from his personal doctor and there are incidents in the book that make a compelling case.
@tommasosantojanni
@tommasosantojanni 2 ай бұрын
History is always written by the victors ...
@arvedludwig3584
@arvedludwig3584 2 ай бұрын
The hallmark quote for subpar intelligent folks. Sorry, couldn't say it any nicer. There's just too much willful ignorance in these statements, especially when they're written on its own with no context.
@siebev.4457
@siebev.4457 2 ай бұрын
History is always written by writers.
@kodor1146
@kodor1146 2 ай бұрын
@@siebev.4457 "History is always written by writers." History is always written by the writers of the winning side.
@siebev.4457
@siebev.4457 2 ай бұрын
@@kodor1146 history is written by the writers of all sides
@kodor1146
@kodor1146 2 ай бұрын
@@siebev.4457 "history is written by the writers of all sides" But the narrative of the winning side is the predominant one therefore the writers of the losing side do not write historical facts but instead what is considered politically correct.
@XandateOfHeaven
@XandateOfHeaven Ай бұрын
Basically it failed because both sides of the exigencies of the Cold War meant both sides valued convenience over justice. They chose to believe the lies of Wehrmacht generals that they had no knowledge of the crimes of the German state, because they wanted to believe it.
@AldebaranBaron
@AldebaranBaron Ай бұрын
You can’t hide the truth forever.
@Die-Sophie
@Die-Sophie Ай бұрын
Welche Wahrheit??
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh 11 күн бұрын
That is correct! YOU CAN hide the truth about 80 years, but you will not forever.
@AldebaranBaron
@AldebaranBaron 10 күн бұрын
@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh It was easier for them when the internet wasn't so widely available, but now pandora's box has been opened.
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 2 ай бұрын
IMO one of the finest 'explanations' of the Germans and the Nazis in the early 20thC is the novel Winter by Len Deighton written in the mid 80s. It is the background history to Deighton's Samson cold war spy novels but is fine in its own right.
@baraka629
@baraka629 2 ай бұрын
I don't know, Germany didn't invade anyone ever since so I'd argue denazification worked as intended. It's not like you can reasonably expect to change every single person's mind in the first place.
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 2 ай бұрын
The Allies Plan Failed but the German People changed for the Better. The "Boomers" of Germany are kinda the unpraised Heroes
@LOWKEYDANGER
@LOWKEYDANGER 2 ай бұрын
The good ol days
@djd8305
@djd8305 2 ай бұрын
I find the looseness of the narrator's language off-putting.
@WarPhotographer1974
@WarPhotographer1974 2 ай бұрын
Why the self-censure blurring the pictures?
@bloqk16
@bloqk16 2 ай бұрын
Images that are considered objectionable or appalling in nature could result with the video being blocked by KZbin. KZbin has rules when it comes to displaying images that they may deem as being objectionable for being sordidly graphic. I used to be a content creator myself, where treading lightly was the strategy to take if I didn't want my videos being blocked, or, being subjected to a violation strike. Three strikes and the channel shuts down.
@Dragonfly-sr5uw
@Dragonfly-sr5uw 2 ай бұрын
Evil won't stop ever.
@VonRyansExpress-v3r
@VonRyansExpress-v3r 2 ай бұрын
That's right, Communism alas is still with us . . .
@sahilhossain8204
@sahilhossain8204 18 күн бұрын
Lore of Why denazification failed momentum 100
@Loki1191
@Loki1191 2 ай бұрын
And yet, while history does not repeat itself, it makes an echo. And that echo is back today. Fascists in Russia and demagoguery are reviving these old hateful ideas of fhe barbaric dominance of the strong over the weak.
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan 2 ай бұрын
At least you know what the likes of Dugin are.
@xornxenophon3652
@xornxenophon3652 2 ай бұрын
You cannot magically change the minds of people. You can try to change their attitude, but even that is difficult with adults that are already set in their ways. Your best chances are with the next generations, which can still be influenced from early on.
@mindbomb9341
@mindbomb9341 2 ай бұрын
My N@z1 grandmother died a N@z1 in 2013.
@McIntyreBible
@McIntyreBible 2 ай бұрын
0:48, in this scene Hitler has an unusual pleasant-looking face, not his usual serious-looking scowl!
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 2 ай бұрын
The liberal pluralistic government and culture of Germany today would argue otherwise and say the title is clickbait.
@EFFCtoocool
@EFFCtoocool 2 ай бұрын
@@obsidianjane4413 Germanys support of Israels war crimes says otherwise.
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 2 ай бұрын
@@EFFCtoocool Maybe your perspective and opinion is just wrong?
@EFFCtoocool
@EFFCtoocool 2 ай бұрын
@@obsidianjane4413 710 says otherwise
@coachpotato7353
@coachpotato7353 2 ай бұрын
@@EFFCtoocool 710 says palestinians need a comprehensive denazification (dehamasification?) before they get to run their state
@cameronlewis1218
@cameronlewis1218 2 ай бұрын
I agree. The title is clickbait. Especially when the Imperial War Museums usually have the highest standards…
@HahhaJajaj-w8b
@HahhaJajaj-w8b 2 ай бұрын
I was born in te wrong era I say myself toomuch when I stream this kind a documentary what a lovely chap that painter from Austria only the man was never satisfied he had a stop after Poland and happily live long and Mary after with Eva und blondie
@kommando5562
@kommando5562 Ай бұрын
@@HahhaJajaj-w8b tbh even if he did did not take poland to retake german land and people there pre-emptively there was strong international interests that had it after him. If Poland was so important to the western powers it’s strange they had and have no care for the Soviet occupation
@ClassyJackBF
@ClassyJackBF 2 ай бұрын
Very important video. With fascism resurgent, and having already seen several little nazi bootlickers in the comments here on this very video, we cannot overstress the importance of exposing the crimes of the Nazis and making sure that "Never again" means what it's supposed to mean.
@IAMAliIbrahim
@IAMAliIbrahim 2 ай бұрын
Given what is going on in Gaza, similar de radicalization efforts are needed around EU & Israel to make ppl aware of how thousands of Palestinians were killed while you watched in silence Else the same cycle of violence shall continue & one day you will be apologizing for overlooking the crimes against humanity the same way ppl here turned a blind eye to the fate of thousands of innocent Jewish people in Europe
@etownzu
@etownzu 2 ай бұрын
The Nazi Bootlickers are everywhere in the comments, you can usually tell who they are by their very weird Profile Pics and Profile Names. Just goes to show how Nazis may have lost the war (WW2) but the ideology survived long enough to try again.
@quandangle9397
@quandangle9397 2 ай бұрын
@@IAMAliIbrahim Did you miss what happened on october 7th? lol
@IAMAliIbrahim
@IAMAliIbrahim 2 ай бұрын
@@quandangle9397 did you miss what has been going on with Palestinians since 1948 The Nakba, Sabra, Sheitella, how unarmed protestors have been shot dead, how 3,000+ Palestinians lie in Israeli jails without trial, how their homes & farms are burnt by extremists while the Israeli army looks on and arrests them if they dare resist ❓
@SafetySpooon
@SafetySpooon 2 ай бұрын
@@IAMAliIbrahim Thank you for confirming that israel *is* Jewish land & that you equate Jews & israel, even if you had to do it with lies & hatred. NONE of that would have been going on had Hamas not culminated YEARS of constant bombings with that disgusting invasion. But, go on - keep exposing yourself.
@jaakkouusitalo1094
@jaakkouusitalo1094 2 ай бұрын
What I always think about is that how easily todays society thinks how easily they would have confronted the evil. I beg to differ. It is far more likely that all of you commenting would have stood with them and not against them. The sheep that we are.
@werre2
@werre2 2 ай бұрын
the student protests were russian-funded projects not spontaneous
@turmanlegalsolutions
@turmanlegalsolutions 2 ай бұрын
Well Done! I am an avid student of WWII history and a grand-child and great-grandchild of Holocaust victims and survivors (still victims). There some really interesting tidbits in this brief documentary that I haven't seen before. Churchill's maps, posters of counter-programming materials, and the story about the Dachau mayor are new to me. I was aware of these events of course, but I have never seen this footage before. Great Job! I'll be following your content closely!
@DarthBaras13
@DarthBaras13 2 ай бұрын
As a Jewish American and an adamant student of history, the parallels between the Nazis hatred of my people and the hatred displayed by radical Arab groups is very telling. The former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini, collaborated with the Nazi Regime. Even going so far as to declare to try and attempt their own "definitive solution to the Jewish problem". This video on how Denazification Failed can serve as a lesson on how achieve Arab de-radicalization in the Middle East, especially once Hamas and Hezbollah have been defeated.
@LivingroomTV-me9oz
@LivingroomTV-me9oz 2 ай бұрын
But…why did it fail?
@kilgoretrout413
@kilgoretrout413 2 ай бұрын
Looking at how Germany 🇩🇪 views Palestine 🇵🇸 and the genocide that is being committed by Israel im not sure they really did denazify. Never again means never again for ANY people
@ID-9999
@ID-9999 Ай бұрын
🤡 Hamas doesnt exist ?
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 2 ай бұрын
This video deliberately left out that the Soviets also used Nazi scientist as well. It was common sense.
@xbmpr
@xbmpr Ай бұрын
Maybe not deliberately, people often forget for some reason. Which is funny, because they had more.
@richardwilton722
@richardwilton722 2 ай бұрын
The title of this video is true clickbait. I fell for it. The truth is this: By setting up a democratic constitution in West Germany, and compromising on a rigorous approach of categorising every German citizen, denazification in West Germany succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of the allies other than the Soviet Union. If we look at the two greatest sins of Naziism, 1. The desire to build an empire by military force and 2. The eradication of human rights in the desire to suppress undesired groups of people, these were both removed to a high degree. The evidence: let’s look at the complaints made about Germany in the last thirty years or so. 1. “Germany doesn’t shoulder its defence responsibilities.” This is because the people of Germany now have a strong antipathy to military adventurism. When anyone suggests doing more militarily, the first answer is “No” and then a discussion might follow. 2. “Germany is too lenient allowing immigration to refugees” We all saw those scenes at the start of the Syrian war where Germans were demonstrating vehemently at railway stations, WELCOMING the arrivals. This is because the post-war generation believe through-and-through in human rights. It’s unravelling now, but it unravelled first in the former East Germany, where they went straight from Hitler to Stalin. All over Europe, people have noticed that, to the south and the east, people are living in misery. They feel sorry for them, but they are worried about importing the misery into Europe. Germany isn’t different to anywhere else in Europe now. Denazification in West Germany was a triumph.
@richardwilton722
@richardwilton722 2 ай бұрын
I see the title has been changed to “Was denazification successful” from “why did denazification fail”. Better.
@paulwee1924dus
@paulwee1924dus 2 ай бұрын
At 3.55 in your video, that swastika was not blown up or shot down with a US army tank. Maybe a Sherman.
@NYCHighwheel
@NYCHighwheel 2 ай бұрын
"Germany lost the second World War, fascism won it." - George Carlin
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 2 ай бұрын
Harsh words and there’s some truth in it however we have to deal with what is facing us and not least with the personnel that are/were leading our countries back then. Far too many people are ignorant of our history and continue to make similar mistakes and waste their time on irrelevant issues like current news headlines illustrate clearly. Best wishes and God bless Great Britain.
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 2 ай бұрын
Carlin was a cynical comedian not a historian or political scientist.
@kurtwagner350
@kurtwagner350 2 ай бұрын
An massive joke at the time, that only gets funnier with each year that passes.
@RlsIII-uz1kl
@RlsIII-uz1kl 2 ай бұрын
​@@obsidianjane4413do you not see the transnationalists socialists/globalists socio-fascists and the secular woke cultists/religious(a form of Hegelian cultism) which rose with their Third Worldism agenda?
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh 11 күн бұрын
And National-Socialism too!
@sonshi12nsp
@sonshi12nsp 2 ай бұрын
The illumination of German atrocities by Allies is well founded
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 2 ай бұрын
not successful enough. the ideology has survived, and is making the rounds again.
@daryx.langdale
@daryx.langdale Ай бұрын
Interestingly it appears nazi or at least hardcore nationalist movements in Germany today are thought to be most popular in east ex DDR regions, both the eastern part of Germany and in the eastern regions of Berlin. It’s not clear to me just how popular the nazis were towards the end of the war among Germans; whether many Germans just mouthed the correct words and made the correct arm movements while quietly waiting until they can give up the act, or if the national myth was truly imbued in the majority of the populace in a way that was sincerely felt and believed. It doesn’t seem like the western occupants put much competent effort into what should already be an impossible task (social “re-education” and public awareness campaigns don’t have the greatest track record), and yet today Germany really does seem to be mostly a very liberal country (albeit one with very nazi Nazis living inside it). It’s puzzling.
@happytadaa
@happytadaa 2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Americans were taking notes on how to implement McCarthyism.
@MyMushroom
@MyMushroom 11 күн бұрын
How cowards these people r Not exposing even not protesting nd taking revenge to the ally torture
@theoldar
@theoldar 2 ай бұрын
In 2017 I was driving through rural Pennsylvania on my way to Kentucky to watch the eclipse. I saw two separate billboards, commercially made, not on farmers' barns, but apparently bought and paid for like any other advertisement, which read "One People, One Nation, One President", and which featured a picture of Donald Trump. That was 2017. I can't imagine how much worse it's gotten since then.
@bugsygoo
@bugsygoo 2 ай бұрын
😮 In Austria the far right have election posters that read 'Thy will be done'. The next line in German is 'dein Reich komme'. Of course, like most of the far right, they're too cowardly to admit what they actually mean.
@fosterfuchs
@fosterfuchs 2 ай бұрын
Now Trump is talking about mass deportations of migrants. He's saying that migrants are poisoning the blood of Americans.
@kingthomasthehun8408
@kingthomasthehun8408 2 ай бұрын
The idea of "one Nation" is an old idea in the english speaking world stretching back to the 1870s under Disraeli it emphasis common apects of all the nation and encorages measure to hel bridge the gap the best way to describe it to a european is to think Christian democrat if you replace the word christian with british or american
@daniels2761
@daniels2761 2 ай бұрын
@theoldar unity is hardly a fanatical message, and despite what you may hear on the news, he was a very moderate president. He is also the only president in my lifetime to not get us into a new war.
@phaasch
@phaasch 2 ай бұрын
Quite. If anything, the wild excesses of TDS put me very much in mind of the unquestioning zealotry which was being stoked up by national socialism.
@nickraschke4737
@nickraschke4737 2 ай бұрын
They almost set von Brauns broken arm in the right position.
@ArtieKendall
@ArtieKendall 2 ай бұрын
✋ Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!
@billtaylor2050
@billtaylor2050 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think it did. If you look at the head cases now running AFD or the Austrian loonies they share one characteristic, they or their progenitors were not deNazified. Yes it was incomplete and there was a lot of blurring of lines but it delivered a good result.
@dakkossman2063
@dakkossman2063 2 ай бұрын
Good news
@bookofdaveandsteve
@bookofdaveandsteve 2 ай бұрын
@@dakkossman2063 obvious troll is obvious
@whiteheatherclub
@whiteheatherclub 2 ай бұрын
Please do give us some solid evidence of the "head cases" running the Afd having any connection with Nazism. It is very strange that a desire to simply put greater control on the people being allowed to live in yourr own country is somehow equated with Nazism.
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 2 ай бұрын
Apples and oranges. The current right wing parties want illegal immigration to stop. They aren't keen on Islam, just as the Western world isn't as well. None of these parties is advocating persecution and death to their targets. You need to research and understand the very wide differences between right wing parties in Germany and Nazis. And I don't support the AfD, or any other right wing party, but I do support facts.
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 2 ай бұрын
AFD are not Nazis In fact they are trying to keep antisemites out
@bretthewitt3890
@bretthewitt3890 2 ай бұрын
So why did it fail? Never clearly answered. Only that it was not fully enacted. Interesting video with good footage, but unclear.
@bretthewitt3890
@bretthewitt3890 2 ай бұрын
Also have to add, very little on Neo Nazis and the current far right in German politics today.
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 2 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the greatest denazification effort was the “simple” act of winning WWII. By winning WWII and then sparing (most of) the German people of mass deletion, all of Hitler’s beliefs became disproven. Hitler was an extreme Darwinian, he believed that either Germany would win or it would be completely destroyed, well Germany didn’t win but it wasn’t completely eradicated either.
@tcbobb1613
@tcbobb1613 2 ай бұрын
From the media aspect in has failed because you can see Nazi images outside of it's historical context.
@Trecesolotienesdos
@Trecesolotienesdos 2 ай бұрын
An idea cannot be killed. This is ancient knowledge
@grahamstevenson1740
@grahamstevenson1740 2 ай бұрын
However Germany itself is now strongly anti-Nazi. There's more support for Nazi style thinking in the USA !
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 18 күн бұрын
Bad ideas die of their own accord all the time.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh 11 күн бұрын
You are so correct! And, thank God about that!
@passatboi
@passatboi 2 ай бұрын
I wish they'd put up posters like that to show people what they do to animals in factory farms and slaughterhouses. We should be ashamed of that too.
@kommando5562
@kommando5562 Ай бұрын
Animal rights laws are very important the painter himself felt this too and was vegetarian cause of this.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 18 күн бұрын
By contrast, humans need to eat. Nazis on the other hand, didn't eat Jews.
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