Why Did Ahsoka ONLY Use One Lightsaber Against Baylan Skoll?

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Why Did Ahsoka ONLY Use One Lightsaber Against Baylan Skoll in Star Wars?

[@KLRCAT]

Baylan was such an interesting character, there was so much they could do with him, its such a shame the actor passed away, he was so talented, RIP Ray Stevenson

[@cngotham4111]

There could still be a recast

[@tomayto70]

@@cngotham4111 I believe a recast has been confirmed for season 2, don't know who yet but Ray's performance carried the show for me

[@dawsonlucas369]

Damn he died that's so shit he was in so many good films

[@badnoodlez]

​@@tomayto70I heard rumors of liev schrieber... I'm down but RIP ray 😢

[@yzrider7774]

I posted a comment myself about how they could not ruin Baylans character and Ray Stevenson's acting by basically not recasting him. If you check out my comment I talk about how a good option was since the Mortis Gods are going to be a big part of season 2 that they could do just one short scene of Ray Stevenson with AI or whatever turning into or being possessed by one of the gods. Not only would this preserve his memory of the good acting he did and not ruin his character but it would be a really cool twist that they could do a ton of different stuff with since the Mortis Gods can transform into different beings and different people etc.

[@robertblackmore703]

She’s also trying to grab the star map, which was the primary objective-not winning a duel.

[@VadersOrder]

Yup! Mentioned that in our video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fX-1iYd6jrOmrbssi=vylp4hqoBMQaaZ5a

[@superskl9]

Yeah but simultaneously Baylan was trying to stop her, and not necessarily kill her

[@Banlox70]

Baylan had the upper hand most of the time and could maybe kill her he was only defending the map and he actually didn’t want to kill her but then shit happend and he strikes her in the end

[@thalmoragent9344]

​@@Banlox70 Reminds me of the fight with Maul

[@thalmoragent9344]

Reminds me of her and Maul. Maul didn't want her dead, and they ended up with a longer lasting duel than what would've happened otherwise.

[@jegudielyusha2866]

Note how skoll held his saber. Not just with two hands, but also, there was space between the grips. This allows for very powerful strikes.

[@josku5]

This is the correct way to hold pretty much any 2 handed sword

[@wardencatrameowmeowapplesa904]

And we call that, Leverage🎉

[@ryguy1483]

I was literally in a argument with someone who thought that curved hilt lightsabers offer an advantage in a saber lock, despite all your hands are at the top of the hilt, nearly burned off, while the second half curved hilt is dangling on the bottom, unused lol (used count doku vs anakin in episode 3 as an example)

[@wardencatrameowmeowapplesa904]

@@ryguy1483 That person probably doesn't know what gravity or leverage is

[@ryguy1483]

@wardencatrameowmeowapplesa904 He tried to use a excerpt from the Bane novels that some sith weapon master said. Something like "two handed djem so curved hilt blades offers the ability to... bypass the defenses of the opponents depending upon how you move your body?" I'm paraphrasing, but he did have a source stating it CAN work. However, I chalk that up to the writer of the novel trying to perform mental gymnastics as to why he wants his preferred form to be more viable, because I can't see that realistically happening in any fight, regardless of sci-fi or real life lol.

[@c-secofficer123]

Skoll was like black knight from medieval stories. I loved it

[@BoopSnoot]

I think we know the real reason though: the actress they chose to play Asoka has no acrobatic talent nor ability to convincingly fight with two light sabers on camera. I'll never understand Disney's casting choices, why they pick people that have no experience with martial arts or gymnastics to play a role like hers.

[@ojoking695]

"Tis but a scratch"

[@c-secofficer123]

@@ojoking695 HAVE AT YOU!

[@ojoking695]

@@c-secofficer123 alright, we'll call it a draw

[@ericfaz1427]

@@BoopSnoot Amen! She's just terrible. She's so slow!

[@Neverlose001]

Baylan was one of the rare instances in which Disney did not mess up

[@lkjgjiy7312]

I think the entire Ahsoka series is great. The same goes for Kenobi and The Mandalorian. The only problem is there is too much CGI Anakin. We saw him in Kenobi, and that was enough, but they decided to film almost a full episode about him

[@jf7009]

@@lkjgjiy7312 maybe because Anakin is literally the main person of the whole Star Wars story?

[@lkjgjiy7312]

@@jf7009 , every story should have an end

[@jf7009]

@@lkjgjiy7312 so should have Rey's story. I hope we will never see her again. On the other hand Anakin is a fan favorite, and deserves all the screentime he gets. As I said, it is HIS story.

[@arekpetrosian4965]

@@jf7009 I'm sorry...ANAKIN is the main person of the story? The HELL have you been smoking? Everyone and his dog knows the main person is Rose Tico...

[@subsonicdeathmonkey]

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu - The Art of War

[@DopeyDetector]

Cool. You Google quotes. So deep, bro

[@Somedudenamedtray]

@@DopeyDetectorand the asshat of the year award goes to… DopeyDetector.

[@exoanimations64]

@@DopeyDetector cry about it

[@arekpetrosian4965]

@@DopeyDetector I Google quotes to make sure I get them right, because there's too many dicks out there who will criticize even the smallest, most unimportant things...

[@ZweimannImperium]

When it comes to the writing aspect I would say it's for the climactic effect, so that when they met again for round two, she can use both sabers in an even more epic fight and perhaps even win.

[@victorbenoin4732]

I’m very saddened to tell you Skoll’s actor has passed away just before the airing of this episode, there probably never will be a second duel if it’s not done by the end of Season 1

[@ZweimannImperium]

@@victorbenoin4732 Yes, I know. I love his performance and his character. But I meant a potential second duel in the first season (which happened).

[@TimothyGod]

​@@victorbenoin4732maybe they'll find a spiritual successor for the actor ? Not everyone would be happy unless it was someone with heart?

[@DarkJediFarkas]

Na, she still lost. Can't win every fight.

[@Blazing-0508]

Baylon actually uses hammer grip which IS A REAL FIGHTING STYLE where the swings are super hard and heavy.

[@dustingre8]

I honestly think the reason she use one saber is so she had a hand available to take the map. Magic would not allow her to force pull it off. You see her attempt to grab it, or get in position to grab it during her fight. Her only mental distraction came when she thought Shin Hati killed Sabine. She did not go there to kill Baylon, she went there to acquire the map. Also, she just beat Marrok with one saber because she knew she didn’t need two.

[@dustingre8]

I guarantee the next time they fight, She uses two lightsabers and she kills him easily. Next time they won’t be there for a map, they will be there to fight.

[@iputsumcuminyourmum9755]

@@dustingre8she likely will still use 1 using two would just make it more difficult to defend

[@Kyle-gu3ge]

​@@dustingre8I come from the future. 2 sabers and it still was a draw

[@devilshit2949]

Baylon is so cool he’s like a mix of Vader and Dooku, elegant and aggressive

[@jhinabloomingflower807]

A little bit with his own flavour and style yeah! 😃

[@benmiller9536]

He's easily the coolest part of this series so far. His allies are kind of meh. Though they don't get enough lines to stand out.

[@wololo__]

Yeah, too bad the actor passed away. I didn't even recognized him from the Punisher movie, guy was doing a great job in this role.

[@austinramsdail8528]

am i the only one getting a weird feeling of him turning back to the light? we keep getting these glimpses of his past and how much he actually misses the order

[@bobf5360]

he's some random wanker who we somehow have never heard of. WTF are all the fanbois drooling over him?

[@michaelbaker5501]

I thought she only used one so she would have an open hand to grab the map

[@grievtheious2452]

It’s both

[@ryguy1483]

Just imagine trying to deflect a brawn man with two-handed strikes while you try to fend off those strikes with literally half your strong gone (while using two lightsabers, I mean) It's really, really hard. So single saber was the best choice + her form is indeed not good in that setting.

[@DamianSzajnowski]

​@@ryguy1483Eh, cinematically maybe, practically big advantage with a shield or two weapons - you can parry or evade an attack, keeping the one blade at bay with your shield or blade (in this case) and respond with the other in the same tempo. Sure, it wouldn't look as cool but especially with lightsabers' (nigh?) weightless nature, the added strength is unlikely to do much more than speed.

[@ryguy1483]

@DamianSzajnowski Lightsabers have weight and shields in star wars are underutilized

[@Henbot]

Nar, kendo requires two hands because it's more power than one hand strikes.

[@QuanTumm1357]

I love the heavy lean into Kendo and samurai based stances and combat. Really bringing the Jedi back to its roots and exploring its inspirations

[@joshuaoddo3489]

Exactly but also Baylons fighting style more so resemble a knight who fights with a two handed sword and trying to fight that with both the daito and shoto blades would be very ineffective.

[@gabrielcarrasco9078]

Using two lightsabers would also drain het stamina more. As both arms are moving. Against Vader, he used her aggressiveness against her prolonging the fight which worked to his advantage. Same for Baylin. She judged his stature, length, of blade and likely felt she was outmatched physically so she needed to use one saber only.

[@Handsofakiller19]

I guarantee she knows all of Baylon's moves. He's like non robotic 1/4 power Vader

[@Greendragonranger671]

you also forgot Vader was her formore master and taught her how to used her lightsaber it was not just his aggressive fighting style. So him knowing her fighting style was still there.

[@waveburner1254]

I always saw Baylan as a person who wields his lightsabre like a claymore. With both hands and extremely powerful strikes behind each swing.

[@D1LLERH]

This shows how much love and effort was put into Ahsoka series.

[@Pulsarr]

Not to mention it’s also anakins lightsaber form that she’s using when it’s one handed (I’m pretty sure). Then he shows up 20 min later

[@lucasvincent3021]

“She realized that didn’t work on Vader because of his aggressive fighting style” And also because he trained her. He knew every move she would make before she made it

[@chaoticdemise4494]

Yes she realized her dual wielding against vader was just not effective. Sure she injured him, but if wasn't for ezra, she would of lost. Vader was close to striking a fatal blow. She learned the Baylan uses a similar fighting style and had to use a single blade skill

[@DavidBloodJohnson]

Wrong! Ahsoka could have beat Vader, but your statement is the wrong assumption. She only lost because she put her sabers in the floor in an attempt to sacrifice herself and Vader because she closed herself in the temple on purpose. She said she wouldn’t leave anakin, and she was keeping her word

[@TheJadedJames]

To me, it looked like Ahsoka was doing a lot better in her fight against Vader than when she fought Baylon. Ahsoka essentially lost both fights, but her old master got a serious run for his money

[@pan1tal0co]

The over analyzing is funny. She used one saber to test baylan. The moment she would go Dual wield she would have beat him easily. She in fact had him beat when she went for the map, but was not expecting to be burned by it. After that the tables turned.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

​@@TheJadedJamesBaylan is better than Vader.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

​@@pan1tal0coCope. The large white dude won.

[@MasterKenobi25]

What a detail... I never thought of that!

[@peterpidrak9501]

Yep, my assumption was it was leverage. If she only has one hand on the blade, he is going to use his superior strength and his full upper body strength to power through her guard and hit her anyway.

[@Blobby90]

I love it when directors understand what makes a fight between two master swordsmen good. It isn't the flashy acrobatics or stylish moves but the way they adjust their stances right down to the minute details in preparation for their opponent.

[@JohnLover1179]

She needed all her power one one saber to defend efficiently

[@palmmahir3888]

That makes a lot of sense, this is a sequel to Rebels show. Thank you so much btw!

[@christiansteele7386]

Or she also had to grab the map

[@thebiss1846]

Not only that, but Baylan has shown to be quite acrobatic while still retaining his strong attacks.

[@metalclawsteelheart]

Just like how cal does it, his style switches between one saber and a staff saber, single for one-on-ones, and staff for crowd control

[@brooklynkeith2877]

Baylan has those ferocious strikes like a pissed off Vader has you could feel the power behind them

[@matt3606-o3l]

I think they nailed it with Ahsoka. Ticked all my boxes. Bravo

[@thornss]

she also was trying to grab the star map and burned one of her hands, so she had to fight with one hand and one lighsaber

[@thefandomchannel7900]

Ahsoka being smart to change forms like final battle of obi-wan and maul.

[@stormhawk31]

I loved Baylon Skol's lightsaber style. Very reminiscent of medieval sword styles. It almost made him seem like a fallen knight.

[@chrisvaughan2462]

Ahsoka ruled! Loved that show! Obi was also pretty good, but they’ve managed to screw it up with Acolyte… bravo 👏

[@andrewgibson7330]

I'm pretty sure she was only using one lightsaber so that her other hand would be free to grab the MacGuffin. This was her first time encountering this dude, and she probably wouldn't have known his lightsaber form.

[@arthurjunior7241]

As Vader said: If youre strong with the force, you dont need multiple lightsabers

[@JGrimm52]

Ray Steveson did a fantastic job using Form V in Vader's style

[@MataNui.]

Ahsoka seems to get her butt handed to her whenever she tries fighting with one blade.

[@therjshow8768]

She killed the inquisitor marrok with a single lightsaber

[@MataNui.]

@@therjshow8768 I'm just saying this seems to be a slight pattern with Ahsoka.

[@blackprovostpublications5225]

Eh if you watch this fight, Ashoka was kinda cooking Baylan and she only starts losing once she burns her hand. If Ahsoka wasn’t under time constraints, didn’t have to think about her apprentice, and didn’t have to burn her hand to stop the map, i feel like she just cooks Baylan everytime

[@MataNui.]

@@blackprovostpublications5225 I have not even watched the Ahsoka series I just know a lot of her losses are when she fights with one saber.

[@Totally-Not-A-Robot]

Baylan quickly became one of my favorite characters in all of Star Wars. RIP Ray Stevenson. You left this world far too soon.

[@James34567ful]

Notice she hasnt been using thr reverse grip as much

[@ajmaldonado9720]

She still does tho, but it’s rather in specific moments. I think maybe reverse grip serves better against blaster fire, and for some quick slashes.

[@NeroTP]

This series was peak star Wars, hope we get new seasons soon

[@hunterkiller1440]

Baylan's fighting style reminds me of a mix of Ben Kenobi and Qui Gon's style.

[@GeauxRussGeaux]

I’m gonna miss that character from the Star Wars universe, Stevenson did such a phenomenal job.

[@jehut2k10]

The force of the blow is twice as powerful for the double handed grip -Afro Samurai

[@zackengelhart2]

Real reason they didn’t wanna have to many stunt doubles and have a yoda level of flips from attack of the clones even though that’s her fighting style

[@coleyounger2424]

Imagine how that would look with todays visuals, this show should of been a movie and had a complete different plot and cast

[@KnightofAntiquity]

Dawson would require an inordinate amount of training that would only be worth it on costs for a full film. She doesnt have a history of swordsmanship and sparring. It tooke Hayden and Ewan months to learn what they needed for their scenes. Same with the guy who played Maul. I recall a set director talking about the stench of the studio during training days. Even Sir Christopher Lee watched from time to time and gave pointers along with the trainer and his own stunt double due to his prior experience as a fencer.

[@WestCooly]

Dooku against Baylan would be like watching a rapier against a zweihander. Vader and Baylan would be cool to see for their similar use of strength and heavy blows.

[@solidmoon8266]

More like a Spanish Saber since Dooku didn't really use thrusts all that often, but style very deft and elegant cuts.

[@WestCooly]

@@solidmoon8266 Is there a more specific name? I'm looking up Spanish Saber and a bunch of cavalier-looking swords are coming up, or am I on the right track? Looks like it'd have a similar weight and balance to a rapier, though with a slight curve.

[@kurzor0007]

The second point was a common weakness in Jar'Kai, Asajj Ventress also frequently faced this problem as shown in her first duel with Anakin

[@blackpearlbp]

"I don't lose fights" such a typical snips response

[@puppetshack4931]

Great explanation ❤

[@Dissedits000]

Bro is like dooku and Vader, I like it

[@djkenway4871]

Tbh I know people didn’t like the Ashoka series much but I thought it was better than what Disney had produced in a while aside the mandalorian. It wasn’t bad at all in my opinion.

[@AndreVeaseyJr]

Jar'Kai which is fighting with a lightsaber in both hands is weak against Djem So and Juyo. As already stated in the video, one hand is not good against a strength based form. Not to mention, the user of two blades becomes too reliant on the extra blade usually. This is why Vader trained Starkiller's clone in Jar'Kai.

[@jimhawkens7414]

Ray Stevenson was the only actor new to the star wars series that was able to make Disney's clunky "choreography" actually look good it's such a shame he passed. He was the only thing out of the Ahsoka show (that was barely about ahsoka and was basically the last season of rebels) that I wanted more of

[@shiguriyamamo6730]

It would be cool to see Ashoka do some of her clone wars like acrobatics. Some people even did her acrobatics in the clone wars which proves you can legitimately do it, although it was just her vs Darth maul

[@krxwnvxk3432]

Vader doesn't always use two hands. Sometimes he switches into Dookus known form 2 of Mekashi. Which he learned after fighting him. And a lot of times u see him use one hand which is the form 2. Look at the final battle with Luke in ROTJ. BUT he does use multiple forms which requires two hands alot. He switches in and out of multiple forms a lot.

[@josephpedley308]

Dooku laughs in 1v2 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Megatron_95]

Dooku's and Revan's lightsabers are top tier for me. Baylan's lightsaber saber is a second favorite

[@paxsondavies1575]

I’d argue just because she told Sabine they might need to give up on Ezra doesn’t necessarily mean she thought they must. She probably kept an arm free so she could grab the map, not knowing how much it would affect her.

[@SalemCrow]

Musashi is known to have developed the two sword Bushido style. But it was said that whenever he faced someone who was considered a tough opponent, he only used one sword.

[@damienruzco]

He also clears hallways of minor enemies like Vader…quite a lot like him come to think of it. Minus the style

[@unknown_4176]

I love how there is a reason for almost everything in star wars (except for the sequels)

[@Darth-vade123]

Its nice to see the hero doesn't always win

[@ClearmindArtist]

Luke would like a word with you.

[@Darth-vade123]

@@ClearmindArtist get over it it's good writing

[@MrSasukeSusanoo]

"ahsoka didn't use her two sabers cause lack of space" Ahsoka when defending from sudden order 66:

[@CompleatedMagic]

The acolyte would NEVER do this much research to choreograph a scene

[@walterbobbittii4124]

Great assessment. I concur

[@timmyly2363]

I wish we got more backstory on Balon and other fallen Jedi. Like where they were during Order 66 and what drove them to wield the red

[@Thunderwall2]

dooku fighting with one hand behind hos back: 🗿

[@anthonyt1t5]

Sad about Stevenson passing away. Glad I'm not in the showrunners shoes cuz that's a tough situation

[@someidiotnamedtricks6397]

When you've been using the same fighting style for over 20 years and still haven't come up with new ways to fight someone with it

[@reaper7263]

With the amount of times these shows make the characters lock sabers and stare at eachother for an uncomfortable amount of time she could definitely use her second saber to sneak a stab into her opponent

[@MandatoryFruit]

I've been pointing this out. I feel like people think she did better against Vader than she actually did. Taking a different approach to an opponent similar to Vader was just the smart play.

[@caseyallison1453]

I was wondering why she didn’t use two

[@TheNorthernWolf]

ahhhhhhhh that explains this. I was super confused because even she thought she was better with two lightsabers

[@leovomend8789]

look at the choreography, you can see in every fight how theyre just letting opportunities to strike go, like look at the fights, they choose not to strike. they wanted to make her look better when they have a rematch by using 2 sabers

[@0siris_Gaming]

Baylan is strait up a medieval knight with a long sword.

[@Henbot]

It was amazing fight, Baylon or Ray Stevenson was so awesome and powerful as well as intimidating. The way he strode to her but just hitting convincingly hard. I suppose if no one has done HEMA and Martial Arts, then they won't get that two-handed strikes are stronger and don't realize that mechanically two hands on a single weapon is stronger than one.

[@KnightofAntiquity]

Yeah. Two handed blows rattle the joints in your wrist different.

[@yzrider7774]

I honestly had no idea that the actor that played Baylan died. Now for season 2 a lot of people are saying that he could be recast and whatnot but honestly I think that would really ruin his character. Ray Stevenson did way too good of a job and when you recast somebody that doesn't look the same and act the same it just never truly works right, not to mention if they recast him his fighting style, mannerisms, speaking etc etc. will all just be way too different and not good. IMO what they should do is since season 2 has the Mortis Gods from The Clone Wars coming back they should just do one short scene with Ray Stevenson (using either cut together scenes or AI or something since it's not going to be a very long scene) basically turning into or being possessed by one of the Mortis Gods. If you remember, the gods could transform into different beings and different forms and whatnot so this would not only solve the problem of the actor dying and keep his memory alive and well of the good job he did but also be a super cool and interesting twist that they could do a ton of stuff with. What do u guys think?

[@Dmooreslotreviews]

Its incredible that Disney made a good character in Baylan and the IRL actor passes away. At least we still have Morgan Elsbeth.... or right.

[@PhilBryant-r2m]

Going to miss Baylan.He was a great character.

[@MTFEpsilon9]

The Ashoka nerf in the show is crazy aswell like she squared up with maul dude

[@Connorbuzzelli]

I agree with your video, In my opinion I think Dave Faloni only had made her use 1 because we are going to get a rematch later where she uses two and it’s gonna be like a grand finale type battle 😮

[@bearsimmonette8943]

And then she must have forgotten that it was hard against Darth Vader because in Episode 5 in the WBW she fights Darth Vader with 2 lightsabers until he disarms her from her shoto blade.

[@ChaosCreator-x5e]

Asoka and Luke are both the chosen ones, and the poncho man😎

[@overknightacention39]

When Darth Maul fought Qui Gon on Tatooine he used one end of his duel-blades but, on Naboo he used both ends.

[@joshuadaluz5391]

Ahsoka fights like a Samurai Baylan fights like a Knight

[@allenkeith7160]

Vader knew her style since he taught her how. His agressive style wasn't necessarily the main cause. At least as far as I think I know these two characters. I remember a few other deep lore videos that also said the Dual Lightsaber forms taught to Ashoka and Starkiller were what Vader WOULD have used if he hadn't been so heavy with his prosthetics. But his apprentices were stronger, more agile, and capable so he taught them both how to fight like that, although clearly taught them differently as one was lighter and more acrobatic, while the other more athletic, and of course aggressive, thus giving the two similar, but slightly different dual-wielding styles.

[@teamofone1219]

She was holding back.

[@alimirza851]

Ahsoka using two lightsaber when two opponent attack her simultaneously.

[@andersbylund2753]

Confined space? It was outside with pillars to jump of from, sounds perfect for ataru

[@Throw.Cheese]

Rest in peace. Maybe the force be with you.

[@Doctor_Bamias]

Now that you mentioned it,does Baylan use one specific lightsaber form or is it just a mixture of other forms like we've also seen with other characters?

[@thadman3003]

Thanks cause this was my only problem with the episode but this makes a lot of sense

[@josephpedley308]

Then theres Dooku who specialises in one hand 1v2 combat 😂

[@thatgreenguy3969]

She had an ulterior motive. It's also really hard to make cgi flippy fighting look real. Gotta fight more knight style with heavy blows.

[@ianbabcock6802]

Another thing I noticed was their ready stances before the fight. Ahsoka changed stances several times but Baylan did not. To me that says he is undeviating from his course.

[@jamesmancini1506]

For a hot minute, I thought she gave her short sword to Sabine. To improve her chances against Shin. She didn't.

[@Don49324]

‘Confined space’ - she was outside…

[@jukebox1138]

Ahsoka does her best work when she gots 2 hands on a saber

[@Vortex-me3lu]

Ahsoka got her lightsaber style from Shein 💀

[@baki484]

She uses both Shien and ataru as stated in the video.

[@lolow6364]

His lightsaber is super heavy too. Like the Uber itself is really heavy which is why he needs both hands.

[@chromacypher8409]

She used only 1 saber against Marrok, who was more nimble. She changed her style for both fights. It was most likely for increased accuracy, as well as strong grip.