Why did Coach Curtis FAIL to end Challenger for his TWELFTH Season? | Broken by Concept Podcast 197

Skool: www.skool.com/we-will-teach-y...
New website: wewillteachyouleague.com/
00:00 - 3:20 | Curtis failed to maintain his 12 season challenger streak
3:20 - 7:00 | We've done a poor job with the BBC community... so far
7:00 - 11:15 | What is Skool? How to sign up
11:15 - 15:40 | Tour of our Skool community page + FREE 8 hour Garen Guide
15:40 - 29:04 | Learning top lane discussion
29:04 - 36:55 | Coaching ALL 5 roles and new website
36:55 - 41:15 | Liz handwritten letter and art gifts
41:15 - 51:00 | Mailbag Goal development and isolation (Ant)
51:00 - 1:00:08 | Mailbag Platinum 4 to Diamond 3 success story (Chase)
1:00:08 - 1:08:02 | Mailbag Picking high winrate runes, items, champions (Storm)
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[@BrokenByConcept]

BBC'ers, let's build the BEST community resource for improvement in League of Legends - www.skool.com/we-will-teach-you-league/about

[@Swooped117]

This is great news to hear as an ADC main. I've been a BBC fan for a while but always felt a bit like an outsider since I don't play mid or jungle.

[@jacobcannon8876]

Same here, the ADC content creation scene is just not comparable to Jungle, Mid, and Top. Not sure if there’s anything specific to the role that makes this the case, but very interested to see what BBC puts out!

[@d4s0n282]

its not really same, but is been kinda same thing as a top laner ;)

[@luderikcouture3410]

Same here! So happy about the upcoming changes! I was even considering switching to mid or jungle just to get some coaching. So happy that i’m gonna have access to support and adc guides now !

[@gaborcsuzi4504]

@@luderikcouture3410 I hope there will be a general access of every role fundamentals. Even as an ADC, knowing what the JG or your Mid laner does exactly and where they focus their attention to helps a ton. Helps you to understand your role better, what to expect from roams, ganks, where they might be, good objectives to take, etc etc. Everyone benefits from a good overview from the game. For example: after mla in jg i rather takes objectives, or invade enemy jg than dive the enemy under tower on mid. After playing top i rather gank top on good waves, and dive the enemy than take objectives with my top. After playing support/ adc i rather give kills on bot, help with the minions without taking them, and giving them resets, or recognize good support and play with them way more. Every single lane i played helped playing the rest significantly.

[@Littlerocker133]

I'm also ADC main been listening to BBC for about a year now maybe a little over. Was hard stuck plat 8 seasons and have been high diamond the last 2 splits thanks to these guys. Super excited for some guidance through the higher elos of ADC 💚

[@chi0224]

I don’t know who keeps coming up with these genius thumbnails, but they are always pure gold, please keep them coming! 😂

[@smappa849]

I am so excited for a community hub, it's something I've really REALLY missed after leaving Saltu. This is huge!

[@arrowliners3812]

After leaving MLA, I’ve been really struggling with motivation on league without having a solid community to communicate with so I hope this helps me out

[@W1ndyyyyyyyy]

I want to have discussions with other good-faith players, so it sucks not being in a healthy community. Reddit or random discord servers give you the League part, but sadly lots of people having discussions in bad faith

[@wrwinter]

most amazing thumbnail in BBC history

[@jbennett8660]

Walking home from work listening to the new Podcast and I have a huge smile on my face, because I have wanted a BBC Top lane academy/community to be a part of so much. To the point where I had seriously agonized over and considered switching to Mid or Jungle. Thank you boys for all your hard work, this news has me very excited.

[@MIKAEL212345]

super hype for covering all 5 roles

[@BrokenByConcept]

Going to take Curtis and I the rest of the year to learn them. Excited to share our journey with you guys! - Nathan

[@LettucePlate]

Wow, breaking a 10 year Challenger streak is something that I don't think I would be able to do if I had the choice. But super grateful for the new community & 5 roles. Keep up the awesome work guys.

[@nemek2082]

I just hit Master tier Mid in NA for the first time since Season 3-4 at 27 years old. And a lot of it is attributed to this podcast that helped me have this big mindset shift and helped with the poor relationship I had with the game. Something that really resonated with me and helped keep me focus instead of tilting was always ''What is my role in this comp and in this current game state?'' I'm not following the exact process per say as some days if I feel good I'll play more games, but the process I tailored for myself since finding this podcast was to simply stop playing after 2 losses in a row and keep myself accountable to respect that. Tilt queuing was something I struggled with where I'd cope myself into thinking I was losing because of my role then swapped role and kept playing only to lose more. I think overall I mainly gained a lot more respect for the complexity of the game and that's thanks to you. Fix them stage 4 issues!

[@comboersps]

This is the best podcast for league!! Thank you for putting all your hard work and dedication into the game and helping others. It’s really inspirational, well done guys.

[@64Talon]

Very exciting news looking forward to learning more about the game from these new perspectives!

[@mikooknom]

I know you guys are a League podcast but I've been trying to apply your concepts of learning and improvement in Valorant! Currently doing a 30 block challenge right now and just finished block #15 yesterday :) I don't even play League anymore but I find your podcasts really great and motivational. My goal is to hit Radiant in Valorant and hopefully I'll be able to by just trusting the process!

[@JonnyPlaysLive]

Joined up and really liking the look of the platform. Also good job on the new website, I'll be trying to get into the top lane program! Cheers.

[@nathanbxn]

Im a toplaner that has been watching you guys' content for a while now. Eventhough im not a mid of jungle i still felt like a lot of the things you guys teach is also applicable to toplane. But now.. its here!!! Toplane coaching?!?! Lets goo

[@jurajturansky413]

Hell yeah I am so hyped for this just hit Diamond with yone and gp top this will level up my game

[@LilDeerLillia]

This is so cool! I’m so excited! It’s always really exciting to meet a BBC enjoyer in the wild, and now we’ll have an entire community of them!

[@soul0172]

A GAREN GUIDE, i will let you know my thoughts as someone listening since episode 1 who's mostly a Garen otp

[@BrokenByConcept]

Keen to hear your thoughts!

[@d4s0n282]

same!

[@garagavia]

This is soo dope! You are doing top lane! Wild ❤

[@Untap101]

It's not a BBC episode without the "Please Stand By". What if you had some gameplay clips to run during those periods so that I could watch your sick montage plays? LOVE the skool btw.

[@Yendis]

This is an awesome surprise, will definitely join when the skool site fixes its bugs with the profile pictures in the sign up. Can’t wait to see bot lane stuff from you guys

[@BrokenByConcept]

Hopefully it's fixed in the next couple of hours. We will see you in there! - Nathan

[@saint_lol]

As a support SoS'er and one of Cupcakes pycho students, it will be interesting for the role to go from occasional cameos in the universe to being a solid part of the community! I look forward to see your guys POV on the role as well as having a place to chat with the community now!

[@TheeEvil]

Love the embroidery in the back!!

[@Zevrael]

There is another significant problem you might run into with high-winrate setups. A lot of the time, certain item builds and rune pages have those high winrates in very specific circumstances, like playing versus an all-AD comp, facing a specific, very easy matchup, or snowballing heavily (Mejai's comes to mind). It seems more useful to me to default to the most common setup (I personally like to use D2+ stats on lolalytics as a reference, because that's the highest elo range with enough of a sample size to make stats valid) while being aware of proven alternatives in those specific situations.

[@kaelen9906]

id love to see you guys do a korea climb and document it like an experiment where you go over narratives your having, problems, etc and solve it

[@zachjackson5835]

@CoachCurtis @nathanmott i just want to take a moment to thank both of you for your content when i got into the details and really started taking the learning seriously i was able to hit gold before the split end. half way through last season i stopped top laning and went back to the jungle and even joined nathan's jungling academy for a short time before i acknowledged that i'm just more comfortable and feel like i have more control over the game if i'm in top lane, however that wasn't enough to climb i still struggled with my identity in league and irl even ended up going down to iron but once i commited to sticking with my favorite champ (sett) and started taking the learning seriously and really got into the details that's when i saw improvement so i just want to thank you guys for your time, effort, and teachings of league.

[@maxnogaredacolldecarrera466]

Lol, i'm in midle exams and didnt listen the podcast for few weeks and i lost the lunch of all of this new things. For sure im gona be on it. ADC here

[@Waelly17]

all these years being so tempted to switch away from Top Lane since watching coach curtis... my patience has been rewarded!

[@soul0172]

WOOOOOOO all 5 ROLES SIUUU

[@Brosak.]

Siiiiuuuuuuu

[@jacksonhester6747]

Oh man I am so excited. Love bbc but I play top lane… so excited

[@bongfade4449]

This is awesome! I’m so psyched to join the community. Everyone is going to have to face the existence of my Yorick jungle true OTP account

[@zachlyons2425]

As a top laner this seems awesome! I will check it out

[@garagavia]

Really looking forward to some merged crossover coaching between different roles 🎉 As a fill main at heart I would love some multi role coaching ❤❤

[@rigba7627]

Woah this is so sick

[@markstarhaven]

14:00 "garen-tee"

[@connererickson264]

This feels like it was made for me. I stopped doing MLS because I realized I was only playing Ekko because he was the closest I could get to a top laner in mid

[@Blackfrog67]

Curtis Garen-teed that means I get challenger next weak ty guys see you in a month.

[@miltosLaz]

well as an adc main im exited you guys trying to learn other lanes will make you understand the game better. Also you picked the best time to play adc after the mid season patch changes smart

[@Helios_Therian]

I feel like I lacked faith in you guys here. I took a long time to look into this video because I thought it'd be some kind of excuse as to why Nathan hadn't hit challenger and it led me to missing this HUGE announcement. As a top lane player lacking behind on midgame execution I hope to learn something from you or this new community you got going over at Skool. Thank you both for everything you do for the League community ❤

[@Restfullschnee]

Let’s go!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@rubsyt8154]

Omg this is sick

[@jakobfreelemba]

Super excited for the community thank you for doing this!

[@gantonstepfire3716]

I love this

[@MyWhiteAbode]

As a Top main I cannot wait to get your perspective on the role, it plays like nothing else

[@lewyn9609]

Holy shit bro I’m going so wild right now

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

I'm a mid main but i've had some advice from top mains, that as top you want to be a problem that it requires more than 1 champion to solve, which allows a 4v3 at an objective or you take the map

[@hatorade3359]

Clarification question: for the MLA, is the price decreasing from #30 to $15 and is he MLS going way? It appears different on between the two websites. I keep missing the MLA signup as its usually open when I'm driving lol.

[@smappa849]

Also a side comment on top lane, I absolutely love to win games through my top laner's side pressure. I get to really think objectives and skirmishes from a different angle. Instead of only considering the immediate area of contention, whenever we have a pushing side with our top's TP up, the fight feels so favored. We don't really need to force anything, since the ball is already in their court. If they go back they basically concede the objective, but if they hard commit, I've just straight up won games pinging for TP on their base and all in on retreating enemies. I just find toplaners to be the true X factor in so many of my games. So cool to see you two delve Into the role and help us learn about it whether we play the role or not.

[@SmithRamone1]

awesome

[@realNaniByte]

holy crap. i was here

[@BrokenByConcept]

History defining BBC episode - Nathan

[@ChrisEverett6]

This is huge! Great news from both of you. Love it

[@hanyuu8672]

I just hope the general philosophy of the podcast doesn't change for the worse after all these new things, as someone who's watched every single episode. I believe in you guys though. I wouldn't even be playing League anymore if it wasn't for the podcast, and so many areas of my life would be different in a bad way. Hope everything turns out well for everyone!

[@soul0172]

oh it's just up to Emerald, shame for me but an understandable decision :)

[@tomasgonzales]

2:40 as a crowd member I did indeed go wild

[@nippi053]

OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I can find more improvement focused people :)

[@eebbaa5560]

is this course/community limited at all? i know it’s free, but i’m currently taking a break from the game and i don’t want to join and be inactive if someone else could make better use of the content. will this opportunity always be available? i’d like to join later once i’m able to. and thanks for everything you guys do for the league community

[@lanceeverett5221]

Skool Community Lane Swap Question - As a support main, wanting to join sooner than later. Do you imagine there will be any consideration for those already in a program but a different role when you set the Support roster in 2025?

[@unlikelay]

FUCKKK im climbing! U made me break my losstreak! clean up on aisle my OPGG! ggs! mate!

[@unlikelay]

I couldn't even be stuck to this I just climbed immediately! 🤣🤣

[@stinker6784]

i love you please never comment again

[@unlikelay]

Youre not getting rid of me goat @@stinker6784

[@yGKeKe]

I died man. Nathan sounds like he's lecturing Curtis, and as soon as he says "A measly 25 LP" Curtis just purses his lips and leans in like "I didn't realize it was that low, has to be photoshop." ...But then Nathan switches to his account and he's got 6 games in Emerald 1 hahaha. I respect both the joke and the announcement. This is a great change for you guys. Hopefully you get some help for the other roles.

[@ElReyDeNoche]

Oh neat, I get the first comment. I find it hilarious because the fact that Nathan says he in relation to Rek'Sai has always stuck out to me lol.

[@everygame1234]

Do either of them have a video or good books that explicity lays out how to improve like verbatim? I am stuck in this loop where I want to break out of diamond, I identify an issue, and then I review my mistakes but I for the life of me cannot implement solutions without just overthinking everything and then doing nothing.

[@spurscoys7385]

What Is the mailbag question thing. Can I ask questions about my climb etc.?

[@makkura9245]

“Oh nice, finally some love for us toplaners!” Below Emerald “Oh.. Not for me though” Hopefully in a near future you guys will have better tools to hand Emerald+ Top bois

[@ashtonshephard3852]

I noticed you didn't mention any good ADC coaches, is it because there aren't really any anymore until your course launches?

[@jonathanwynne6925]

sweet, i play adc/supp and branched into top recently since Mundo exists

[@leagueaddict8357]

Just know that before you do any coaching on toplane the mindset is entirely different from top vs other lanes, the top mindset for most people is I have to 1v9 carry, all these other 4 are completely useless because that is needed to actually win through toplane, generally another mindset will not result in wins, and toplaners are very competitive. other roles generally have a really bad understanding of what toplaners want if you play it yourself you know a lot more, but this also changes how you would have to consider what people are thinking about for example, a toplaner is not gonna care about some random roam that has a slight chance to give a pentakill we just wanna kill towers.

[@horticulturalist7818]

I played 100 games this split and im still in bonze so dont feel bad

[@multicrogamer]

Curtis don't be perfectionist, you proved yourself, now you can become true teacher. Make new challanger students! This happens to everyone who masters their craft.

[@tristan6773]

1:05:00 runes hardly matter until very high elo build matters always. like building riftmaker cosmic drive on xerath is troll.

[@Freakattaker]

"8 hour garen guide" in the timestamp reads like a sh*tpost LMAO even though I know it's unironic and almost certainly a very good guide!

[@evan8895]

Oh they're cooking

[@Jose-oq6kj]

top lane is full? it's been 2 hours or so? damn

[@Dark_HumourYT]

YEAHHH

[@Restfullschnee]

Where do we join the school community

[@BrokenByConcept]

Link is in description - www.skool.com/we-will-teach-you-league/about

[@fjubbe378]

woot woot 🤪

[@EverestGaming99]

BBC cinematic universe incoming

[@feliperesendez2221]

I’m a bit worried, it seems like you’re spreading too thin. What will happen to your current programs? Huge risk to take if they are your bread winners. I’ve always admired that you were dedicated to coaching one role, it made you stand out from the rest of the high ELO coaches that teach every role. I do trust in your quality assurance, I’ve seen your guides before, but I’ve also seen them not stand the test of time do to patch/season changes. I expect it to be better than the average KZbin channel, and maybe building a community will be worth it in itself. Personally, I would feel better if you had an ADC expert under your wing and teach him the BBC mantra than you learning ADC and teaching me. I’ll l let you guys cook, best of luck & thanks for the podcast!!

[@alleman0378]

Made me tear up seeing the godfather Curtis in master

[@unlikelay]

nah the glazing is crazy 🤣🤣 hop off goat he dont know u son

[@Cloverfield187]

WOAHHHHH

[@Static27o]

Massive moves, massive elo's, massive biceps. Great work bois

[@titanattackbee1985]

are they related?

[@prnmeds]

If you teach teemo im switching to the top lane academy 😂

[@Xxxxxxxxxxzzzsasff]

Please make one for Forsen

[@pencildead6449]

As a mid laner, ok

[@Stoff_Rocks_Packs]

Thumbnail 😂😂😂

[@grandegrandegrandegrandegrande]

lendas.

[@edgelord1337]

I mean OCE challanger is like plat 2 on euw XD

[@GunzShufle]

Top lane program lets fucking gooooooo ahh!

[@kardrasa]

cause he's boosted

[@oW0LFP4CKo]

PLEASE EXPAND TO WILD RIFT 😁

[@unlikelay]

nacka det goat

[@skezii]

bbc 🤡🤣 lucian?

[@Brosak.]

I mean its OCE but unfortunate it looked cool curtis but OCE is really not good i playes it til 200 lp master and im d3/2 euw