Why did Gran Colombia Fail? (Short Animated Documentary)

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History Matters

History Matters

2 жыл бұрын

Gran Colombia is one of history's great 'what if' countries. It was a large South American power which only existed for 12 years before breaking into pieces and becoming Venezuela, Ecuador and Colombia. So why did this nation fracture? Why did Gran Colombia Fail? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
TL:DW - Bolivar maketh. Bolivar breaketh.
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@ShortHax
@ShortHax 2 жыл бұрын
Gran Colombia IRL: Falls in 11 years Gran Colombia in Civ VI: Conquers the world in 11 years
@alejandrorodriguezhernande7247
@alejandrorodriguezhernande7247 2 жыл бұрын
Much better
@LaCoalicion.
@LaCoalicion. 2 жыл бұрын
You again
@alejandrorodriguezhernande7247
@alejandrorodriguezhernande7247 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whatareyoudoinnhere Virreinato de Nueva Granada is bestes tho
@anon2427
@anon2427 2 жыл бұрын
Just another reason why civ 5 is better
@alejandrorodriguezhernande7247
@alejandrorodriguezhernande7247 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whatareyoudoinnhere they treated them better than the Criollos and following governments ever did. The natives rose against the Criollos in múltiple occasions, Bolívar made sure the ones that did died. Read about Black Christmas in Colombia
@nightdragonx123
@nightdragonx123 2 жыл бұрын
"It's always Napoleon.." I could near feel the eye roll in that phrase 😂😂😂
@birisuandrei1551
@birisuandrei1551 2 жыл бұрын
What a surprise that the Greatest general of all time caused a lot of weird stuff to happen...
@retrogamermax8287
@retrogamermax8287 2 жыл бұрын
@@birisuandrei1551 - The Holy Roman Empire getting destroyed which led to the unification of Germany and Italy as nations down the road - Latin America revolting and gaining independence from Spain during the Napoleonic Wars - Napoleon selling the Louisiana Territory to the United States to get more money for his war efforts. Yep, the world wouldn't be the same without Napoleon's actions.
@Edmonton-of2ec
@Edmonton-of2ec 2 жыл бұрын
You could practically hear it
@morganrobinson8042
@morganrobinson8042 2 жыл бұрын
Every. Historians. Reaction. You can hear the frustration as he forces the 19th century Europe to do what he says despite all logic.
@birisuandrei1551
@birisuandrei1551 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrogamermax8287 well cleaning the mess that is the HRE was the best thing he did tbh, a Federation like that in the modern day would literally DIE in the middle of Europe.
@HappyMan0203
@HappyMan0203 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, in wanting to keep Gran Colombia together, Bolivar did literally everything that would break it apart. It's like an overbearing parent wondering why their kids don't want to hang out with them.
@kostam.1113
@kostam.1113 2 жыл бұрын
Same happened in Yugoslavia But i can understand his position Countries by default are to be centralised and united If that is not possible it's either dissolution or federalisation.
@spencer1980
@spencer1980 2 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is always 2020.
@kikujade
@kikujade 2 жыл бұрын
he was a military genius, not a politician, sadly
@spk1121
@spk1121 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is he probably learned from the experiences of the U.S. _too well._ The USA had 8 years under the Articles of Confederation (1781-89), which was enough time for average citizens to understand how the system of governance worked & eventually recognize it had too many fundamental flaws. This is why there were some protests, but no mass uprisings when the Constitution was adopted in 1789. Bolivar undoubtedly knew this and pushed for a strong federal system immediately. If he had let things play out in similar fashion, I believe there's a reasonable chance he would have succeeded in the long run! Kind of a shame, but his frustration is actually pretty understandable within this context. Why "waste time" implementing a system he had good reason to believe was doomed to fail?
@ricardokowalski1579
@ricardokowalski1579 2 жыл бұрын
@@kikujade ja ja ja ja...Napoleon battles are studied even today. None of Bolivar battles is. "La campaña admirable" was a complete failure that left Maracaibo and Angostura standing and both flanks exposed. There is no "genius" here.
@pridelander06
@pridelander06 2 жыл бұрын
"Now that they had to get along, they didn't." You could sum up so so much of history this way.
@itsblitz4437
@itsblitz4437 2 жыл бұрын
Even today there are countries within that just don't get along like Ethiopia, Afghanistan, and Myanmar.
@walterclements7968
@walterclements7968 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsblitz4437 Belgium
@anthonydelmonte1986
@anthonydelmonte1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsblitz4437 Azerbaijan, Armenia, Turkey, Belarus, and Ukraine
@aikslf
@aikslf 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsblitz4437 That's because of conflict either between local ethnic groups or authorities. In afghanistan it's the regional warlords, the Afghan-Soviet war, and the US intervention that led to the warlords gaining more power and toppling their already shit government. Then the taliban came along with the promise to fix everything. Due to local issues regarding religion, education, food, economy, and civil rights, and regional power struggles between more powerful countries over influence in the region, Afghanistan will be stuck that way for a while. In most of Africa, they got similar or somewhat similar issues + ethnic conflicts over superiority and which one has the right to rule over and oppress or potentially oppress the other ethnic groups. And Myanmar has already got their genocide going so that they could "fix" the problems their ideological differences could potentially cause in the future (that's what their leaders believe even tho it makes no sense).
@freealter
@freealter 2 жыл бұрын
Except they could have gotten along in a federation but Bolivar botched it
@kfp9923
@kfp9923 2 жыл бұрын
"Why can't you guys just get along?" "They speak funny"
@utorner123
@utorner123 2 жыл бұрын
Latinoamérica resumida en tu comentario XD
@spongekupo
@spongekupo 2 жыл бұрын
Latinos and other latinos are natural enemies. Like Englishmen and scots or Welshmen and scots or scots and other scots.
@Gangkoyt
@Gangkoyt 2 жыл бұрын
@@spongekupo can’t forget the scots
@l.u.i.s._.8452
@l.u.i.s._.8452 2 жыл бұрын
Just summed up our whole history
@goeintut
@goeintut 2 жыл бұрын
Thats...! way too accurate actually...
@ChessedGamon
@ChessedGamon 2 жыл бұрын
_Hearing about the collapse of Gran Colombia as a kid:_ Oh, what a tradgedy! _Hearing about the collapse of Gran Colombia after playing Civ 6:_ Oh, what a relief!
@akramgimmini8165
@akramgimmini8165 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@itsblitz4437
@itsblitz4437 2 жыл бұрын
Civilization games changes everything.
@mateoprota7406
@mateoprota7406 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Hemdael
@Hemdael 2 жыл бұрын
@@mateoprota7406 Gran Columbia gets very powerful generals, unique units, and a passive +1 movment to all units. This makes them a military nightmare in Civ, worse than Gandhi or ...Venice...
@vehuelbateo5740
@vehuelbateo5740 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hemdael Me, who likes to play Venice: *Hehe, money go brrrr*
@leonardoabuawad6569
@leonardoabuawad6569 2 жыл бұрын
Me as brazilian seeing this and realizing how crazy it is that my country remained united.
@malvarezv97
@malvarezv97 2 жыл бұрын
That's because the Portuguese didn't have the crazy helicopter parenting, no trade between colonies allowed only back to Spain, approach
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
It was honestly also a miracle my country the U.S survived before the ratified constitution. When it was under the articles of confederation the nation barely held itself together after independence. And even after the ratification it didn't fix everything (namely the whole thing with slavery) and eventually caused a big civil war.
@dominicvucic8654
@dominicvucic8654 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 you would think after the Civil War the US stayed 2 different countries
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 I mean Britain actually positioned troops on the colonial/US border because they were sure it would collapse soon and would be welcomed back by the people as liberators from the chaos that was the confederation
@robertrichard6107
@robertrichard6107 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 And it's still a slave republic to this day.
@imitationcrabmeat9901
@imitationcrabmeat9901 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where Kelly Moneymaker didn’t make so much money and was unable to fund these quality videos
@jamesbissonette8002
@jamesbissonette8002 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a scary thought
@x_croner
@x_croner 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whatareyoudoinnhere kelly moneytaker
@jamesbissonette8002
@jamesbissonette8002 2 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Mills none taken! It’s absurd that I have that many subs for exactly zero content
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM 2 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Mills Yeah, but it is nice that, for once, it's Kelly Moneymaker who receives a shoutout
@TheAmericanPrometheus
@TheAmericanPrometheus 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbissonette8002 the man, the myth, the meme
@piercepayumo4212
@piercepayumo4212 2 жыл бұрын
"We have to go back to Napoleon... it's always Napoleon." Me: "Seems about right."
@Dyknown
@Dyknown 2 жыл бұрын
There’s been a lot of complaints about the Great Man Theory. And then there’s Napoleon.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dyknown Yeah he's the one that proves the theory is objectively true to some degree
@william2496
@william2496 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dyknown The exception is the Mongols
@morganrobinson8042
@morganrobinson8042 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 Him and Alexander. Bolivar too, to an extent. Every so often somebody actually manages to make the world move around them. It's frustrating mostly because it is the exception to typical history, but it's also what causes rapid, noticeable changes.
@annabethchase2569
@annabethchase2569 2 жыл бұрын
It's always either him or the British doing things they weren't supposed to over 2000 miles away from where they reside.
@Longshanks1690
@Longshanks1690 2 жыл бұрын
Napoleon is like Rome, all roads lead to him.
@cpegg5840
@cpegg5840 2 жыл бұрын
Wow a based monarch in the replies! Too bad your son was a weak little beta!
@imperiumgrim4717
@imperiumgrim4717 2 жыл бұрын
@@cpegg5840 lol sheeeshh
@karmo1629
@karmo1629 2 жыл бұрын
fairly confident that ill get a solid history grade now if i answer every question with "Napoleon"
@ThomasSev29ID
@ThomasSev29ID 2 жыл бұрын
What's the catalyst that severed the bond between Julius Caesar and Pompeii Magnus, thus leading to the Roman Civil War and thereby the fall of the Roman Republic and the rise of Augustus as the first Roman Emperor? "Napoleon"
@morganrobinson8042
@morganrobinson8042 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasSev29ID Bill and Ted have much to answer for, and leaving Napoleon unsupervised is a good quarter of it.
@andrewlinnen7896
@andrewlinnen7896 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasSev29ID Sounds legitimate.
@epicgamerzfail4575
@epicgamerzfail4575 2 жыл бұрын
I mean almost everything significant in the 19th century and beyond can likely be tracebacked to something napoleon.
@andrewlinnen7896
@andrewlinnen7896 2 жыл бұрын
@@epicgamerzfail4575 I sometimes wonder who the most important political figure of 19th Century Europe was and as much as I want to say Queen Victoria or Chancellor Bismark, it has to be Napoleon.
@maresgoez
@maresgoez 2 жыл бұрын
As a Colombian it is nice to see my country being acknowledge. To add a bit. The problem with the unification of the provinces is geography. Colombia has 3 mountain range crossing it from south to north. So getting to bogota from Caracas was extremely difficult. Whatever laws Bogota would have promoted they would have arrived 3 months later to Caracas. Road and rail conexion is still a big problem in Colombia just because how expensive it is to build roads on the andes mountains.
@NordeGrasen34
@NordeGrasen34 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining that, it's really important for people to know how geography affects nation-states. A lot more than people think.
@suddenllybah
@suddenllybah 2 жыл бұрын
... would the US not have worked if the 13 colonies had actually been across a mountain range? Because the US has got them, but only claimed them after the federal government became a thing.
@Dominator2930
@Dominator2930 2 жыл бұрын
@@suddenllybah the US also has many more natural passes and rivers that cut through our mountain ranges. The mountains there are more similar to the Andes than to the Rockies or Appalachia in that they're steeper and more treacherous. Even back before the train lines were created, people and information moved slowly across the country. As an example the Battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812 took place I think it was 1-2 weeks after the war had officially ended because news of the ward's end hadn't reached either US or British forces in time. Had there been a mountain range in the way it might've been 1-2 months
@carlossanabria7991
@carlossanabria7991 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that. People aren´t aware of the extension of the territory. Gran Colombia was as big as the western roman empire at it´s peak, and bigger than the first napolenic empire. If you add geographic difficulties (mountains everywhere plus amazonian jungle) to that huge mass of territory, and the great desorders after independence wars, you get an ungovernable state.
@mathewfinch
@mathewfinch 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that a bigger problem for unity was a lack of economic integration. Trade between the Spanish colonies was forbidden because the Spanish were worried about their colonies becoming more powerful than the home country, so all trade had to go through Spain. As a result, none of the South American states had any real economic integration with each other at the time.
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 2 жыл бұрын
America is a country with an army. Prussia was an army with a country. Genghis Khan was a man with an army who unified a people, whom made an empire. Napoleon was a man with many countries to build him many armies, which he used to get more countries. Gran Colombia was a man and his army trying to make a country.
@adarshmohapatra5058
@adarshmohapatra5058 2 жыл бұрын
We have this common saying in India that: India is a country with an army Pakistan is an army with a country Because it is well known that the Pakistani army controls the government and they can't do anything without their approval. Otherwise the army will stage a military coup and seize power.
@ArrechoGuy
@ArrechoGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Colombia* not columbia
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArrechoGuy I blame autocorrect for that.
@hussite7235
@hussite7235 2 жыл бұрын
And he almost succeeded
@eduarz723
@eduarz723 2 жыл бұрын
Did you hear that one somewhere or wrote it yourself? Gonna use it in the future
@LotharTheFellhanded
@LotharTheFellhanded 2 жыл бұрын
The more I learn about other revolutionary leaders, the more I’m convinced that America’s worked out was because Washington stepped down and didn’t want to be king or dictator for life. That’s it, really. If he had been a bit more corruptible we wouldn’t have had any stability to start or example.
@HansLemurson
@HansLemurson 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and there were even people who WANTED him to take greater power. Really dodged a bullet with that man. Cincinatus would be proud.
@looinrims
@looinrims 2 жыл бұрын
Remember at the time of his election he didn’t want to be called “your majesty”, but instead requested everyone refer to him as “Mr President” As the saying goes, he had nothing to compensate for…unlike a certain French dictator
@Jose-xx7lg
@Jose-xx7lg 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Is also important to note that the US did in fact got into a separatist civil war, so it wasnt a smooth sailing go stay together
@mariamonicavega8890
@mariamonicavega8890 2 жыл бұрын
Is wasn’t only that he didn’t wanted, the constitution was well thought and limit power. Colombia didn’t have what the US had, Patrick Henry and The anti federalist, who helped outline the bill of rights and limit the powers of the government. Always thinking ahead
@athingwhichexists
@athingwhichexists Жыл бұрын
@@Jose-xx7lg Don't forget about the articles of Confederation, the US first government which failed because it didn't tie the states together strongly enough. Shays rebellion showed the weaknesses and gave the needed justification to make the Constitution.
@Longshanks1690
@Longshanks1690 2 жыл бұрын
“And now that they had to get along, they didn’t.” Isn’t that the UN’s tagline?
@mkosmala1309
@mkosmala1309 2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 2 жыл бұрын
The League of Nations was made to keep the peace with the ability to exert force. The UN was made to keep the peace via dialogue. Peace keeping with the UN is basically just a small force attempting to create some buffer space between factions.
@str2010
@str2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zraknul dude, the LON was created with the same goal as the UN: peace through dialogue, then force if necessary. The LON however sucked at both way harder than the UN. It had no way to enforce economic and military sanctions at all. The way you're phrasing it implies it was a success
@50shekels
@50shekels 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, look. An insular brit taking his name after the last time his nation was great. The angloid then mocks international cooperations while it mutters geriatrically something about a never setting sun. Some things never change
@SuperWiggler
@SuperWiggler 2 жыл бұрын
@@50shekels King Edward I's reign was in the 1200's, long before the British Empire. No comment about a "setting sun" either. Also. the UN isn't that great of an organisation.
@luismarcialvergaradiaz5363
@luismarcialvergaradiaz5363 2 жыл бұрын
As a south american, It would be interesting if you could make a video on the Peruvian-Bolivian Confederation
@dariusgunter5344
@dariusgunter5344 2 жыл бұрын
To learn about the Peruvian Bolivian Confederation ... we need ... to go back ... to ... Napoleon *inaudible sigh*
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
Also one on the FRCA, Federal Republic of Central America.
@theonly802
@theonly802 2 жыл бұрын
this would be cool to learn about
@hukllankanchis1575
@hukllankanchis1575 2 жыл бұрын
OH YES, this one is great because compared to the rest, the majority of the population was content with this new unification and the Confederation was brought down by EXTERNAL factors, a military coalition by Colombia, Argentina, and Chile.
@nicolaszan1845
@nicolaszan1845 2 жыл бұрын
@@hukllankanchis1575 Really it was mostly Chile.
@vostroyanfirstborn
@vostroyanfirstborn 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a mug with napoleon's face peaking out, and have it say "it's always napoleon"
@tomrogue13
@tomrogue13 2 жыл бұрын
I would but
@mdmjeremiah
@mdmjeremiah 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I wholeheartedly support this idea. Mugs, shirts, mousepads! Okay maybe not mousepads.
@mekingtiger9095
@mekingtiger9095 2 жыл бұрын
*FULLY SUPPORTED!!!*
@CarlMarxPunk
@CarlMarxPunk 2 жыл бұрын
Bolívar famously said: "The Americas are ungovernable". Which is often used to berate ourselves among latinos about how we can't seem to get things right. In context, it's clear the phrase it's more about Bolívar's ego and inability to compromise. The Americas are ungovernable if you try to rule alone. If you are a caudillo. Things needs to get done together. That's the lesson of this story. A lesson South America needs.
@IANXZ
@IANXZ 2 жыл бұрын
Bolivar believed we (latinamericans) were too ignorant and backwards (too used to a monanarchy and nanny state) to function as a self governing federation.
@makutas-v261
@makutas-v261 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly! had he only surrendered his ego and made it a united state thing while still being the emperor dictator thing himself, it would have been great!
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one is blaming it on Spain. In Africa especially, people like to blame their former colonial rulers and demand reparations, even when multiple states fail in the same area, year after year, all on their own.
@quidam_surprise
@quidam_surprise 2 жыл бұрын
_La_ América es ingobernable para nosotros.
@Laszlo5897
@Laszlo5897 2 жыл бұрын
@@aoikemono6414 "all on their own" is kinda dismissive of the existing power structures set by these who came before, don't you think? Also disregards a lot of the globalized market forces and foreign interests
@mestre12
@mestre12 2 жыл бұрын
That just goes to show you how big was Napoleon in the history of the world.
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 2 жыл бұрын
Recent history anyway. And mostly just western powers and colonies.
@epicgamerzfail4575
@epicgamerzfail4575 2 жыл бұрын
@@aoikemono6414 which in turn had a big impact on modern history.
@aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 2 жыл бұрын
@@aoikemono6414 subsequently, western powers dominated so Napoleon influence is all over it
@scatman8963
@scatman8963 2 жыл бұрын
@@aoikemono6414 western powers and colonies = the world
@martinhorvath4117
@martinhorvath4117 2 жыл бұрын
stop roasting the Japanese, I can't click all likes.
@thomas_lale
@thomas_lale 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on why the Isle of Mann is not part of the UK. An Island right next to the UK, which had a high proclivity for taking land wherever it could, that wasn't incorporated into the
@pecadodeorgullo5963
@pecadodeorgullo5963 2 жыл бұрын
It is a crown colony which means the UK controls its foreign affairs and defence and the citizens are British. It is basically an autonomous region of the UK. This is the same for the channel islands.
@ilikecheese4518
@ilikecheese4518 2 жыл бұрын
theyre flag is pretty funny 🇮🇲🇮🇲🇮🇲 foot swastika lmao
@Spongebrain97
@Spongebrain97 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilikecheese4518 like some strange tribal call back
@DustMug
@DustMug 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilikecheese4518 beyblade*
@varana
@varana 2 жыл бұрын
Because for all things that actually matter, it _is_ part of the UK, only technically not. So no reason to change anything if you already run the place anyway.
@andrewgutmann9432
@andrewgutmann9432 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting the sense that Napoleon is to this channel what Walpole is to Extra History.
@akepatherainwing145
@akepatherainwing145 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 2 жыл бұрын
he will be now, James Bissonette will make sure of it
@longislandlegoboy
@longislandlegoboy 2 жыл бұрын
Napoleon is to history as Walpole is to extra history
@hornet370
@hornet370 2 жыл бұрын
james bisonette didn’t fund gran colombia, that’s why it fell apart
@jamesbissonette8002
@jamesbissonette8002 2 жыл бұрын
Nah
@jamesbissonette8002
@jamesbissonette8002 2 жыл бұрын
@@DingDingTheKZbinBuddy I feel real enough
@javieraravena5345
@javieraravena5345 2 жыл бұрын
Important to note that when the viceroyalty of New Granada was announced a century prior, it took 20 years to establish since both venezuelans and the people from Quito hated the idea
@candyzevallos8981
@candyzevallos8981 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the creation of the viceroyalty make a big problem with the viceroyalty of peru about the frontier, which wasn't well delimited and, as usual, end it up in wars.
@lhistorienchipoteur9968
@lhistorienchipoteur9968 2 жыл бұрын
So Venezulans already identified like this at the time of the creation of New Grenada ?
@javieraravena5345
@javieraravena5345 2 жыл бұрын
@@lhistorienchipoteur9968 more around their capitany. They liked been their own entity on the empire, and thought under Caracas they would be ignored
@flaggy185
@flaggy185 Жыл бұрын
If you think about it, the name didnt helped He could named it anything, like Unión Tricolor or something, but no Gran Colombia, leaving both Venezuela and Quito out of the ecuation, and making it look like annexation more like an Union
@lore9828
@lore9828 4 ай бұрын
@@lhistorienchipoteur9968 Yeah, and Venezuela is one of the oldest entities in the american continent, the oldest in mainland South America at least, so they already had their own identity that was way more unified than New Granada or Quito, you can see this division in modern day in Colombia where regions are veery different and people often identify with them first, Venezuelans have a greater sense of unity through regions even if regionalism still exists, but it does in a more "normal and expected" way
@jovanweismiller7114
@jovanweismiller7114 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an American Years ago, I had a friend from Colombia. One day I asked him when they were going to try to recreate Gran Colombia. He looked at me and said, 'How do you know about Gran Colombia?' I answered, 'I read'. LOL!
@imperiumgrim4717
@imperiumgrim4717 2 жыл бұрын
LOL that's hilarious
@kieranduffy6760
@kieranduffy6760 2 жыл бұрын
Colombians are always amazed if a foreigner knows anything about the country.
@afanasymarinov2236
@afanasymarinov2236 2 жыл бұрын
Because it lacked the financial support of James Bizanette.
@jamesbissonette8002
@jamesbissonette8002 2 жыл бұрын
They needed to set up a Patreon account
@ilikecheese4518
@ilikecheese4518 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbissonette8002 so would you be a financial backer of sealand if they set up a patreon?
@maclain728
@maclain728 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve gotta give it to Napoleon, in just over a decade he managed to change every place in the world for hundreds of years to come
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 2 жыл бұрын
More a matter of his circumstances than anything else.
@ritikshaw5868
@ritikshaw5868 2 жыл бұрын
@@aoikemono6414 nope. He impacted everything. On the modern scientific temperament and introduction of standardised units...to a government which actually cared about its people.
@rootigaroot9922
@rootigaroot9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@ritikshaw5868 cringe
@mr.snaplles5964
@mr.snaplles5964 2 жыл бұрын
@@aoikemono6414 yeah circumstances he directly caused
@edixonvc5101
@edixonvc5101 2 жыл бұрын
Caused the revolts on South America, gave the Louisiana to U.S, desolved the Holy Roman Empire my man did his stuff
@rfij3268
@rfij3268 2 жыл бұрын
just a bit of context prior to the Spanish American wars of independence that would give birth to Gran Colombia. indeed the immediate cause of the wars was the capture of Ferdinand VII by Napoleon's forces and the transfer of the Crown to his brother Joseph Bonaparte. This was due to the internal chaos of Spain itself between King Carlos IV who was forced to abdicate by his son Fernando, this made Napoleon see the internal fragility of the Hispanic monarchy and he believed that he could improve it by putting his own brother on the throne, however this power vacuum would generate chaos in the colonies and spain itself because; 1) the Spanish empire was not organized in the same way as the colonial empires of the 19th and 20th centuries where the colonies are owned by the state of the metropolis, but rather in the spanish emperie all the American colonies were not part of the Spanish state , but personal property of the King of Spain himself, and European Spain and the American colonies were united only by the figure of the King. 2) the Magna Carta that organized the kingdom of Spain was in the "Partidas of King Alfonso the Wise" which were a set of laws created in the reconquest period that established the social organization of the kingdom in the following way; ''The king's power emanates from the people, the king rules based on this fact, once the king is gone, the power returns to the people.'' 3) This was the right that ruled over Spain and his american colonies during the Trastamara and Habsburg dynasties, but the Bourbons implemented the French absolutism where the king's power emanated from God, which generated discontent in the colonies, and they continued to operate with the spirit of the `` Partidas of King Alfonso '' 4) in this way, once Napoleon captures Ferdinand VII and puts his brother Joseph on the throne, part of the Spanish state resists and forms the courts of Cadiz as the new goberment created to oppose the French Hegemon, but in the colonies, neither recognized nor to the French king or to the courts, but the Hispanic law was appealed, and since the legitimate king had been imprisoned and the only thing that united the American colonies and Spain was the figure of the king, then power returned to the people, which would govern itself until the return of the rigthfull monarch. 5) In this way, the first government boards were created, with which the colonies would govern until the return of Fernando VII, however the Viceroyalties did not recognize these incipient forms of government and sent military troops to put an end to these "rebellions", in response, the criollos defended themselves from these aggressions, which would finally make the colonies want to be part of the Spanish empire and seek independence. all this without counting the influence of the Enlightenment. , the French Revolution and the American Revolution and all of the abusive, racist, monopolistic and authoritarian factors of Spanish institutions that were creating a deep feeling of discontent on the part of the Criollos towards the metropolis of Madrid
@a2falcone
@a2falcone 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment, but I think it has some inaccuracies: - The Siete Partidas don't say what you quote. They do contain some elements that can be used to support that thesis, though. Still, they weren't a Constitution in the modern sense and any king could modify or overrule them as he pleased so using them as legal support against royal power wasn't very sound. By the way, they were still in place in all of Spain in 1810. The Bourbons enacted many reforms but they didn't change the Partidas. The idea that, without a king, power returns to the people, was a political theory that wasn't exclusive to nor originated in America. The first government juntas formed for self rule under that political principle were formed in metropolitan Spain, actually. The colonies only followed suit. There was no special preference for that theory in America. What did exist in the colonies was a desire for more autonomy, and self rule during a king's captivity was a great way to achieve that. Neither thesis (royal power comes directly from God / God gives power to the people, the people entrust it to the king and without a king it returns to the people) was ever explicitly enacted into law, as far as I know.
@rfij3268
@rfij3268 2 жыл бұрын
@@a2falcone Thank you very much for your comment, I tried to synthesize one of the many events that could led to the wars of independence, at least in the Chilean case (my country), the first national Junta of government used the capture of the king as an argument to justify self-government through the return of power to the people, obviously this can vary in different cases
@jorgec.a3123
@jorgec.a3123 2 жыл бұрын
I cringed every time you said colonies because they weren't, they were viceroyalties. Besides that it's pretty accurate
@rfij3268
@rfij3268 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgec.a3123 why? The American territories within the international law of the time were considered as res nulius, this means that when they were conquered by a state, they were transformed into colonies. the very history of Hispanic America within Chile is located refers to the period between the Spanish conquest and the independence process as '' The colony '' or ''the colonial period'', also despite America was divided into viceroyalties, this also had subdivisions called the governorates and the capitanias generales, which sent their natural resources such as silver, wheat, coffee or sugar to the metropolis as part of the commercial monopoly
@DeusExMau5
@DeusExMau5 2 жыл бұрын
this is why i dislike the short video format, a lot of context and important details are left out.
@TomasBelloXD
@TomasBelloXD 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: All the countries that were part of the Gran Colombia (Ecuador , Colombia and Venezuela) share similar flags and colors.
@juandiegoprado
@juandiegoprado 2 жыл бұрын
Not all, Panama has a different color scheme
@BlackBass
@BlackBass 2 жыл бұрын
@@juandiegoprado literally the flag of panama is the flag of the two major parties of colombia
@Frnxzz
@Frnxzz 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's because it comes from a Flag brought from Europe by one of the Venezuelan independency fathers and heroes Francisco de Miranda. He was heavily influenced by the illustration and fought in the French revolution and the American Revolution, he's considered as the mind behind the independency dream in the Americas. At least in Venezuela the colors mean this: Yellow is for the wealth of the country, Blue for the Caribbean sea and Red for the blood spilled by our liberators. But there is a common legend that the colors are for Tsar Catherine The Great, whom is rumoured to be a lover of Miranda, and that the Yellow is for her hair, Red for her lips and Blue for the color of her eyes.
@hukllankanchis1575
@hukllankanchis1575 2 жыл бұрын
Ecuador however, is more culturally Andean like Peru and Bolivia
@delano4526
@delano4526 2 жыл бұрын
Not Panama or Brazil or Peru
@Talulah_Enjoyer
@Talulah_Enjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Colombian historian here, I wanted to say that it was really a really very entertaining video and it is interesting to see how important issues are touched for the separation of the great Colombia and the formation of the Republic of the new Granada (Of which a relative of mine was president ) and yes indeed, there is much that remains to be said about Gran Colombia after two centuries of historiographical scuffling, at the same time, they demonstrate what is already being done at that moment and the great potentialities of the subject in the immediate future. Gran Colombia contains two problems that, as a historical subject, have made it uncomfortable: it is halfway between what has traditionally been seen as the tremendous dream of the liberators - from what we could have been, if we had listened to the designs of the great dreamers - and the disappointment at their shipwreck, which has only been made conceivable by pointing out the meanness and clumsiness of our ruling classes. This supposed failure is explained by denouncing our precarious modernity, the interference of foreign imperialism or the unfortunate rivalry of the caudillos. And, in the case of the cult of Bolívar, which has played an important role as a legitimizing ideology of the State, this discourse acquires especially complex connotations, since it is a political historicism, according to which what is said by the Liberator is a norm of Compulsory compliance and the condition of patriot is equated with that of Bolivarian. In this sense, how to explain that precisely the State and nationality began to come together in 1830, destroying Bolívar's most important political project? Before this question, an answer is usually given in accordance with the ideology of the day. Either the paradox is attributed to the "betrayal of Bolívar", not as a work of the people, but of the oligarchy, thereby demonstrating its essentially anti-national character, or, at the other extreme, it is attributed to an ignorant and ungrateful people, that it cannot govern itself and that it must remain under the tutelage of some necessary gendarme at each juncture. The epic of Independence, the "Magna Gesta", has fulfilled the function of nurturing the national identity - in fact, the self-esteem - of Hispanic Americans. It is the founding myth, the golden age that demonstrates all our virtues, abandoned at some point, but still latent in us, which only require some kind of historical push to reappear. It is the heroic past as the promise of the future of all historicisms. In this context, Greater Colombia is seen as a magnificent hiatus, but after all, on our irremediable path to nationality or as a premature frustration of our longed-for Latin American union. Both cases produce discomfort. The point is that it has been difficult to deal with the fact that, if his great military victories are discounted, especially in Peru, his role in the creation of Bolivia and a very successful diplomacy for the circumstances, taking into account the internal order are put manifesting, already in Independence itself, all the problems that will plague our republics for more than a century: civil wars, rivalries between regional leaders and elites, between liberals and conservatives, economic famine, separatism, institutional weakness, dictatorship and, finally, collapse. La Gran Colombia is, then, perceived as the anticlimax of the Magna Gesta. All of the above explains the poor understanding of the period and even a certain lack of interest in reviewing the inherited budgets. In addition, this allows us to understand why the Republic of Colombia, as an event destined to be remembered, has not yet been explained. Its actors and witnesses were frequently assisted by the urgency to record their testimony and take sides. The event generated illusion or fright, depending on the opinion. Colombia was one, but it was not lived in the same way on both sides of the Orinoco. With the passing of time, the republic - what was built, dreamed of, thought possible and remained pending - was associated with Bolívar, and its collapse, therefore, appeared as a product of the despotic inclinations of the caudillo or of demagogic naivety of his opponents. Consequently, the memorialist channel will fundamentally follow two courses. In the case of New Granada, still many years after Gran Colombia, the Bolivarian people of Granada cultivated the nostalgic pen of the greatness of a lost order. Two texts are worth highlighting: Memoirs on the life of the liberator by Tomás Cipriano Mosquera (New York, 1853) and Historic-political memoirs. Last days of Gran Colombia and the Liberator by Joaquín Posada Gutiérrez (Bogotá, 1865-1881). During the first years of the transition, on the other hand, a narrative that vindicated the role of the Santander party, defender of the Constitution and legality in the face of the arbitrariness of Caracas, prevailed. Santander publishes the Process followed by General Francisco de Paula Santander, as a consequence of the event on the night of September 25, 1828 (Bogotá, 1831) and, later, his Apuntamientos para la memoria sobre Colombia i la Nueva Granada (Bogotá, 1837). Florentino González, a September conspirator, Francisco Soto and José María Obando (My relative) published defenses of their own actions over the next decade. In 1857 José Hilario López published the Memoirs of him (1857), concluded in 1840, but whose publication, according to him, had been delayed because of the passions that dominated the country.
@Talulah_Enjoyer
@Talulah_Enjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
In order to be a founding event, the scarcity of historians who undertook the challenge of explaining the vast social and political transformations that it entailed is striking. José Manuel Restrepo established the official version in History of the Revolution of the Republic of Colombia (1827), retouched in History of the Revolution of the Republic of Colombia in South America (1858). Colombia was the miraculous product of a single man "giving unity and becoming the center of the revolution," and his collapse was evidence that the vastness of his contemporaries did not share his genius. José Manuel Groot resumed the aristocratic restraint of Restrepo in the third volume of the Ecclesiastical and Civil History (1869-1870). The republic appeared as the backdrop for the gala night of heroes. They absorb everything and do not allow a more global look. Even the so-called philosophical history fails to address a history of the republic that goes beyond the figures. José María Samper, born "during the hazardous time of Bolívar's dictatorship", published in 1853 his Apuntamientos para la Historia politico y sócial de Nueva Granada, an outline of the storm that the public spirit faced in "the ways of that fertile civilization that seeks the advent of individual sovereignty. "The Republic of Colombia appears at its dawn as the time of organization, triumph, and industriousness to create a free and sovereign nation where there had only existed a tributary and abject people", to go years later through a period of popular fermentation; of treacherous ambitions alongside generous sacrifices" and reaching the ignominious age of the saver, of "usurpation by brutal force", a history of freedom punctuated by the actions of the dictator. Some of this, although with a contrary ideological sign, is also present in the histories of the political parties of Manuel María Madiedo (1859) or in the essays of Miguel Antonio Caro and Sergio Arboleda. In Venezuela, the Gran-Colombian republic has traditionally been seen as the product of its most important son. There, many of the characteristics of Neo-Granada historiography are repeated, even in the challenge of exalting the figure of Bolívar and his time as a golden age, but at the same time having to account for the rebellion against the Gran-Colombian union that gave the push end for the collapse of the republic. The Summary of the history of Venezuela, by Rafael María Baralt, published in 1841, will become the canonical text that the rest of the historians will follow for almost a century. Baralt essentially makes a narrative of the events, organized by years. At a time when the organization and systematization of the multitude of scattered and relatively recent data was necessary, the book came to fulfill that mission. But it must be remembered that it also responded to the mandate of endowing the new State with its own history, so that the narrative focuses on what happened in "old Venezuela" (that of 1777, revived in 1830), as they thought. and the Venezuelans lived it. References to Bogotá are made only to the extent that they are absolutely necessary to understand the Venezuelan process. An exception, which will be imposed in the future, is that of the Peruvian campaign, which is attended to. This kind of invisibility of Gran Colombia as a whole is not surpassed even by the epic poem La Colombiada (1878) by Felipe Tejera, which has no greater resonance and is very quickly overshadowed by the enormous success of another epic text, Heroic Venezuela. (1881) by Eduardo Blanco. This situation will change when in 1909 the second great general history of this country appears, the Constitutional History of Venezuela by José Gil Fortoul. The third book of the first volume is dedicated to Greater Colombia (a name that then became popular, largely because of this work), and it is probably the first systematic attempt to see that republic as a whole. Gil dedicates four chapters to its foundation and laws, its army - in fact, its war history, with the victories in the South and Peru - and its political and diplomatic history. The next five chapters refer to Venezuelan life within the Colombian Union and its separatist rebellion. The author makes a basically dispassionate analysis and manages to displace Baralt from the canon, for several generations. However, in this aspect it was only partially so, since that does not mean that Greater Colombia ceased to remain more or less invisible, only named in later manuals based on the wars in Peru or the secessionist rebellion. But even understanding the ideas of the great Colombia as Bolivarian are wrong, it is the same story that has been in charge of bringing up the figures forgotten by the popular, one of these being the figure of the illustrious Venezuelan, Francisco Miranda, what is it? who for the first time conceived the idea of ​​a "Colombia" (Land of the Columbus) that was from the Mississippi to the circle of fire in Argentina :>
@suikamanti9131
@suikamanti9131 2 жыл бұрын
""Of which a relative of mine was president """ que pendejo....
@vonjoris2153
@vonjoris2153 2 жыл бұрын
yo I'm doing a project related to the history of Gran Colombia from it's formation to collapse. Do you of any websites/books for research?
@FenriZz
@FenriZz 11 ай бұрын
Oh now that's dope
@pancake-yum
@pancake-yum 3 ай бұрын
my eyes trying to read all of this 🔥 🔥 👁 👁 AAAA
@marioponce7529
@marioponce7529 2 жыл бұрын
Venezuelan viewer here. Great video, very historically accurate! The only thing I will say is that it’s that Venezuela didn’t have it’s modern borders while a constituent of the Gran Colombia. There was a pretty large border dispute between the countries for over a century and a half after this. Other than that, excellent video as always.
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the border conflicts with guyana (the british) too.
@galerinha
@galerinha 2 жыл бұрын
The Venezuelan government says that a part of Guyana (half of the country actually) was supposed to be Venezuela aswell
@ViroRads
@ViroRads 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never get tired of saying the Esequibo is part of Venezuela :v
@morbidsearch
@morbidsearch 2 жыл бұрын
Love how it's only the ex British countries that get picked on by Latin America
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 2 жыл бұрын
@@galerinha It's not half of Guyana, it's 1/7 of Venezuela.
@CaribbeanHistory
@CaribbeanHistory 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, I love this channel so much but the intro is not entirely correct. The main reason why there was fracture and instability in Spanish American during the Peninsular War dates back to the War of Spanish Succesion. When the Bourbons won the Spanish throne, they directed many reforms different from that of the Hapsburgs before them, one of them was replacing American born Spanish (Creole or Criollo in Spanish) politicians with Peninsular ones. The Creoles wanted their power and prestige back. When Napoleon invaded Spain in 1808, there was a lot of uncertainty among the 4 Viceroys in America. The people, fearing they would favor Joseph, they revolted, not for independence, but for the loyalty and return of Fernando VII. During the Grito de Dolores on September 10, 1810, Miguel Hidalgo cried out “Viva Fernando VII”. Yet he is known as the igniter of Mexican independence even though he did not advocate for it. Agustin Iturbide on 1820 was the person who did call out for independence and made it a reality the following year. In South America, the case was that of independence vs loyalty to Fernando once again. Very few favored Joseph. Bolivar was born into the local aristocracy and knew that independence was the only way that the creoles could return to power.
@Redactedredacted5837
@Redactedredacted5837 2 жыл бұрын
I would have preferred it if Gran Colombia became a federation after the constitutional convention and then later on some guy slowly undermined the federal states and centralized the country. There'd be a large and powerful Spanish-speaking state that could adequately defend against the growing USA and the potential Latinamerican superpower, Brazil. Gran Colombia could easily defend the northern approach (Isthmus of Panama) with numerous transverse fieldworks like the Portuguese 'Lines of Torres Vedras.' Naval resupply could maintain a stubborn and unbreakable rearguard. The east could be held at the Guiana highlands and Orinoco Delta. The south is protected by the virtually impenetrable Amazon, although the Colombians could fall back to a defensive line situated on the Guaviare River. The west is not an issue because it's got large mountains and easily defendable passes along the north-south axis. Gran Colombia could also build naval bases in Buenaventura, Manta, and Puerto Bolivar on its west coast; and in Barranquila and Cartagena. Upon completion of a 'Panama Canal' the Colombians could effectively control trade between Atlantic and Pacific, and enjoy naval supremacy in the Carribean by quickly moving their warships east through the canal when needed. Such wasted potential! (I'm an American who plays *WAAAY* too much EU4.)
@cpob2013
@cpob2013 2 жыл бұрын
More ambitiously, be annexed into the USA and further absorb all the new world colonies from Argentina and Chile to Quebec and Alaska. English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese colonies united in revolution. The United States of America indeed. It would dwarf any European empire in Africa India and the pacific.
@sevilla2187
@sevilla2187 2 жыл бұрын
As a Colombian, I'm impressed that you know geographical locations such as Guaviare and Orinoco rivers. You know my country better than the average pedestrian in a big Colombian city.
@nicolasisquithcarreno9692
@nicolasisquithcarreno9692 2 жыл бұрын
Also communication between cities was very difficult and travel was made worse because of the Andes mountains, complex geography did not allow for the building of big roads that could used by horses or carts, in 1830 it took more time to travel from the port city of Cartagena to the capital Bogotá then it did from Cartagena to Sevilla in Spain
@aaronmarks9366
@aaronmarks9366 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez, that's crazy
@nicolasisquithcarreno9692
@nicolasisquithcarreno9692 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmarks9366 That is why in Colombia regionalism is still very strong today, many regions were essentially isolated from each other so they developed distinct culture, the city of Medellin capital of the Antioquia Departament (Province) was essentially isolated from all the important ports so it was hard to export products, it wasn’t until 1920 when the Quebrada Railway Tunnel was finished that there was firm connection to other cities so you could travel rapidly between them
@aaronmarks9366
@aaronmarks9366 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasisquithcarreno9692 How connected (roads/rail) is Ecuador to Colombia?
@JoseGomez-zy5ih
@JoseGomez-zy5ih 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmarks9366 They are connected by a road in Pasto, but I’m not sure how good the road is
@himnosdecolombia7106
@himnosdecolombia7106 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmarks9366 there are 4 official border crossings as of right now they are all roads, the Main is the Panamerican highway
@TheLegoMaster261
@TheLegoMaster261 2 жыл бұрын
As an American with strong Colombian ethnicity, I very much appreciate you covering Colombian history! If I could make a suggestion, maybe do a video on how Panama gained independence. The US was a major factor in its independence so it should be an interesting watch!
@cassidybrash4243
@cassidybrash4243 2 жыл бұрын
Second that!
@mochi182tv
@mochi182tv 2 жыл бұрын
How Panama gained independence would imply a video about colonial rule, given that our independence was first to Spain. I would also hope that he mentions the attempts at separating from Colombia prior to american involvement. If such a video gets done, I hope he gets all the facts. Rarely the case...
@bealu9459
@bealu9459 Жыл бұрын
In Colombia we learn that the US stole Panama from us lol
@flaggy185
@flaggy185 Жыл бұрын
Venezuela: Chamo que dices
@greenamogus
@greenamogus Жыл бұрын
Username checks out (DK loves bananas and Colombia grows bananas)
@xxxBradTxxx
@xxxBradTxxx 2 жыл бұрын
2:39 No (in Spanish) the little things always make me giggle.
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 2 жыл бұрын
2:57 It didn’t Fractured, Chad just Colonised It
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez 2 жыл бұрын
Belgium too
@treasureobasuyi894
@treasureobasuyi894 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is gold.
@oenrn
@oenrn 2 жыл бұрын
It became part of Andorra.
@mateogomezramirez870
@mateogomezramirez870 2 жыл бұрын
As a Colombian I like the video, it explains what happened quickly but summarizing a great deal of the main reasons why it failed
@zap3231
@zap3231 2 жыл бұрын
The animation and quality of your videos just keeps getting better with each one you put out and I masively respect that. Good job!
@bumpierfall2493
@bumpierfall2493 2 жыл бұрын
It does?
@zap3231
@zap3231 2 жыл бұрын
@@bumpierfall2493 Yes! For example in the very start of the video with Gran Colombia disspearing, that's a method to express something. Just a few videos ago, in the "did the USSR have a blue scare" video, he for the first time animated a person being dragged on the ground. It keeps getting better!
@timesnewlogan2032
@timesnewlogan2032 2 жыл бұрын
I love the off-screen *thunk* when he dies. Also, it's times like this that I realize how much we lucked out with Washington.
@APG19912009
@APG19912009 2 жыл бұрын
0:20 “It’s always Napoleon” 🤣🤣🤣
@mercuby
@mercuby 2 жыл бұрын
“To begin, we have to go back to Napoleon. It’s always Napoleon.” Lol
@matthewshipley739
@matthewshipley739 2 жыл бұрын
History Matters: *covers literally any topic after the late 18c.* Napoleon: "Where did that bring you? ...Back to me."
@harristli
@harristli 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I’ve always wondered this. I’ve spent multiple nights trying to figure this out. Putting together in this clear narrative was super helpful!
@dragosstanciu9866
@dragosstanciu9866 2 жыл бұрын
It is a pity it failed, Gran Colombia today could be a superpower with the Panama Canal and Venezuelan oil.
@andym.s.5231
@andym.s.5231 2 жыл бұрын
The Panama Canal would still be Colombia’s if it weren’t for the US fucking with literally every country in the continent because it felt like it
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 2 жыл бұрын
@@andym.s.5231 Would they even have the money and resources to build the canal? It was not simple task, costing tons of money and thousands of people dying in the jungles. Same with the Suez, but with deserts instead.
@diegogalvan1110
@diegogalvan1110 2 жыл бұрын
@@andym.s.5231 well that's just a terrible interpretation.
@Frnxzz
@Frnxzz 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think so, it probably would be a Brazil 2.0
@cassianoneto1553
@cassianoneto1553 2 жыл бұрын
Population , resource and territory wise, it would be pretty similar to Brazil, so basically another Mexico-Brazil tier power that is homogenous locally but can’t get into the great powers club yet.
@andrevont9065
@andrevont9065 2 жыл бұрын
Video suggestion: "Why did Prussia and Austria have territories outside the HRE?" By that I mean why weren´t they included inside the HRE.
@looinrims
@looinrims 2 жыл бұрын
Well Prussia was a vassal of the PLC and Austria was an empire of various non German ethnicities, probably is the reasons
@GuyNamedSean
@GuyNamedSean 2 жыл бұрын
Funny. Everyone mentions Bolivar when discussing the fight for freedom and self-determination, but no one mentions that he wanted to be a dictator.
@fabriziozagonel5720
@fabriziozagonel5720 2 жыл бұрын
All south american liberty idols wanted freedom from some european or other major power to do some tiranny himself.
@raptorfromthe6ix833
@raptorfromthe6ix833 2 жыл бұрын
thats pretty much everyone that isnt washington representive democracy as we know it was an english thing so it isnt surprising
@loadsofbuts
@loadsofbuts 2 жыл бұрын
Seconding Fabrizio. If you take a look, most of them ended up pariahs in the end.
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 2 жыл бұрын
What if the freedom they desired was for him to be a dictator?
@fibo4108
@fibo4108 2 жыл бұрын
Then you have San Martín who fought in Argentina, liberated Chile and Perú and then retired back to Europe when he realized the politics back in Argentina would be a cesspit.
@thomashogan9196
@thomashogan9196 2 жыл бұрын
A leader like George Washington is something that was unprecedented in Revolutionary military leaders, and he alone is the reason the American Revolution succeeded where almost every other failed. Caesar, Cromwell, Napoleon, Bolivar, Lenin, Mao, Castro all made revolution about themselves. George Washington had an army loyal to him and enough public support to have been "Imperator ad vitam," but he didn't do it. Stepping down after 2 terms set a precedent that lasted 140 years (until someone messed it up) and the United States established a culture of limited executive power that lasted up until now.
@Samuel-wm1xr
@Samuel-wm1xr 2 жыл бұрын
try not to indulge so much in great man history. in the early united states the federal government was extremely weak and the states were largely self governing. they intensely distrusted each other and the federal government, and were massively divided on everything from social to economic to foreign policy. they constantly brought up threats of secession on everything from free speech to tariffs and of course the most famously slavery. even if Washington had stayed as president forever, and the federalists indeed argued that presidents should serve for life like the supreme court, it would not have solved the lack of unity that would cripple any attempts at centralisation. His popularity would not last very long once he starts making difficult decisions. also, communist regimes are specifically based on the idea that limited government benefits the rich. obviously, they wouldn't agree to limit power, or else they wouldn't have launched the revolution in the first place. Julius Caesar's revolution was also victorious for the same reason. his entire popularity was based on the idea to cull the power of the wealthy elite. Cromwell tried to return power to parliament but it plunged into chaos. Napoleon was not revolutionary and he made it clear that he was only making use of the revolution.
@thomashogan9196
@thomashogan9196 2 жыл бұрын
@@Samuel-wm1xr Washington was a great man. Robert Mugabe was not. The French Revolution descended into the Reign of Terror and utterly failed. Cromwell used his "New Model Army" to force through the same policies he cut the king's head off over. Washington personally led the Army to put down the Whiskey Rebellion. Once he obtained compliance from the rebels he promptly pardoned them. Napoleon had mutineers shot. The point is, Santa Anna, Bolivar, Napoleon could not hold their countries together because they were corrupted by their own lust for power. Washington was not. George Washington may be one of the only Freedom Fighter who actually wanted people to be free. And as for weak government favoring "The Rich?" Mao rode around in a Red Flag limousine and Zhou Enlai lived in a mansion while 40 million people starved to death. Maduro is fat. The average Venezuelan lost 17 pounds from hunger. Why do I care how much Henry Ford made if I can own a house and buy a new car at a good price because of him? Government didn't build that. Government builds NOTHING. It only takes away what others made and passes it around, keeping a big chunk for themselves.
@looinrims
@looinrims 2 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally that someone was a socialist and the largest traitor to the nation before or since! Weird that
@looinrims
@looinrims 2 жыл бұрын
@@Samuel-wm1xr the weak federal government died when Washington became President under the constitution, so I’m not sure what you’re on about
@thomashogan9196
@thomashogan9196 8 ай бұрын
@@maximipe Che Guevara? You're saying a guy who admitted he murdered every political opponent he ever had won "free and fair elections year after year? Fidel Castro never lost an election for 60 years? Idiot.
@Riku-zv5dk
@Riku-zv5dk 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who is writing an Alternate History project, I like to thank History Matter for his videos, I mean, more then I already do. These types of videos are oddly helpful in being crash courses for specific subjects.
@harrisonlee9585
@harrisonlee9585 2 жыл бұрын
"It's always Napoleon." -Prince Klemens von Metternich
@alejandrotoro9676
@alejandrotoro9676 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, its nice to have videos talking about the history of my country, seeing that we have a very interesting history but it tends to get overlooked
@Menckenperson
@Menckenperson 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally doing this episode. Will share widely
@ValueNetwork
@ValueNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
The simple answer: it was the most powerful nation in Civ 6 so got nerfed in the next Patch
@mikeskadi
@mikeskadi 2 жыл бұрын
It didnt fail! It merely failed to win!
@capitalistussr2484
@capitalistussr2484 2 жыл бұрын
Some oversimplified shit again
@Void_Dweller7
@Void_Dweller7 2 жыл бұрын
Which is failing.......
@velasquez1984
@velasquez1984 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this episode! thanks, History Matters! Saludos desde Colombia.
@DonJuan911
@DonJuan911 2 жыл бұрын
He was the "El libertador" and freed many countries from Spanish tyranny but he was a terrible or at best Mediocre statesman in my opinion. He certainly had charisma but far too less statemanagement skills.
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 2 жыл бұрын
There's a quote somewhere about not all generals make good politicians, and the similar, politicians do not make good tacticians. So, Bolivar was a good general, but failed at the political and economic side, due to his regimented and hierarchical military thinking. He desired centralization when none yet existed. His regime was more of an army in need of a country.
@candyzevallos8981
@candyzevallos8981 2 жыл бұрын
He was a megalomaniac who prettying much want it to be king of everything, that's why, at least one of the reasons, he was force to quit.
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 2 жыл бұрын
@Hernando Malinche the Romans were statesmen first, generals second.
@ShinigamiInuyasha777
@ShinigamiInuyasha777 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewgillies7509 Well, the guy was in a really messed up situation. The most prosperous colonies were those that actually had the money to fight but their local elites were not interested in fighting the spanish this happened in Mexico and Grand Colombia. While the poorest colonies were so disconnected that the broke with Spain didnt destroy their economies, but were so poor that they simply couldn't build themselves for decades, like the case of the Rio de la Plata colonies
@darkknightbatman8269
@darkknightbatman8269 5 ай бұрын
Viceroyalty of new granada>>> gran Colombia
@robertquiggleiv8696
@robertquiggleiv8696 2 жыл бұрын
I can't save these for later. Favorite channel.
@garybrown2039
@garybrown2039 2 жыл бұрын
1:45 - 2:19 speaking as an American that learned about the revolution and tensions over the north and south over things like a strong federal government and slavery that makes SOOO much sense to me.
@ronanmurphy98
@ronanmurphy98 2 жыл бұрын
I just love this channel. I would just have a random thought about historical geopolitics during the week and suddenly there's a video on it. 🥰
@villeporttila5161
@villeporttila5161 2 жыл бұрын
You have a fantastic way of just slightly changing your tone to bring life to how you narrate these. It's a really rare skill to be able to do it that subtly and understated. The 'He kept getting made president of more and more countries' is a fine example
@pineutrino
@pineutrino 2 жыл бұрын
2:06 “WELL” I love these little nonsense-jokes ❤️
@bowenc24
@bowenc24 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely an interesting “what if” nation. Like what kind of nation would they become if they managed to stick together as a federation?
@avolto4822
@avolto4822 2 жыл бұрын
An incredibly rich one as it would have contained the oil of Venezuela and eventually the Panama Canal.
@galerinha
@galerinha 2 жыл бұрын
@@avolto4822 Venezuela by itself is incredibly rich, that doesn't mean anything as Venezuela keeps getting poorer
@aagamjain1395
@aagamjain1395 2 жыл бұрын
@@galerinhaIsn't that mainly because of government ineffectiveness and economic mismanagement?
@ViroRads
@ViroRads 2 жыл бұрын
@@aagamjain1395 Add in there a pretty ignorant population and there's your answer, coming from a Venezuelan.
@juand.cardona2208
@juand.cardona2208 2 жыл бұрын
@@ViroRads Add in communism and a president who can't go 5 minutes on a speech without saying something incredibly stupid
@sskuk1095
@sskuk1095 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! I've been waiting for this since I found this channel
@myleshungerford7784
@myleshungerford7784 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode! I'm not sure if you did this because of my suggestion but thanks for doing it!
@TheFourthTankist
@TheFourthTankist 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video to wake up to! Good job!
@nicolasinvernizzi6140
@nicolasinvernizzi6140 2 жыл бұрын
you have the best anthem.
@eriathdien
@eriathdien 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where Colombians and Venezuelans didn't argue about which country invented arepas...
@tonycorona8501
@tonycorona8501 2 жыл бұрын
La arepa es venezolana.
@redknight344
@redknight344 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonycorona8501 La "arepa " gordita es mexicana
@kikujade
@kikujade 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonycorona8501 la arepa es 100% colombiana
@Alonne1
@Alonne1 2 жыл бұрын
what have you done!
@cbz3000
@cbz3000 2 жыл бұрын
I loooove how this channel can squish complicated subjects into 3 minutes. Sometimes I might want a longer video, sometimes I just want a 3 minute TLDR
@SwimBodyEVill
@SwimBodyEVill 2 жыл бұрын
I am not embarrassed at all to disclose how much I have and do learn from your videos. And I consider myself to be quite the history nerd. Keep up the amazing work.
@juandiegoprado
@juandiegoprado 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Just one tip for future reference, Bolivar is pronounced Bo-LEE-var, with the accent on the “li” and not the “bo”
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna happen. Gonna British everything. If you thought that was bad, think of all the butchered Asian names that were poorly transliterated into Roman letters. 🤣
@hrotha
@hrotha 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that thingy on the i isn't just for show. Bólivar sounds kinda cool though, like a member of the Fellowship of the Ring
@pedroharres
@pedroharres 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one! Cool that you are starting to cover latin american history. The Paraguay war is another interesting one. The Canudos Revolt in Brazil too. As well as the Zapatist movement in Chiapas, Mexico. And how the border between Mexico and Usa came to be where it is now. Cheers
@colombianguy8194
@colombianguy8194 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. First video to feature Colombia? I hope to see some more, my country has an interesting history, thanks!
@adriansz343
@adriansz343 2 жыл бұрын
Those wells always make me chuckle, excellent video as always
@SpaceMonkeyBoi
@SpaceMonkeyBoi 2 жыл бұрын
Napoleon is almost as consistent as James Bisonette
@SA-pj3fz
@SA-pj3fz 2 жыл бұрын
As a Colombian, this greatly disappoints me
@IAmGlutton4Life
@IAmGlutton4Life 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered how would Gran Colombia be if it was around today
@juanpablosuarezbautista1993
@juanpablosuarezbautista1993 2 жыл бұрын
@@IAmGlutton4Life i'm grateful that Ecuador, Panama and Venezuela jumped out, because we're a mess, and we never had a single moment of peace since the declaration of the republic in 1819
@galerinha
@galerinha 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanpablosuarezbautista1993 brazil is a mess but I'm happy it stayed together, even with we that live in the richest part funding the development of the others. We have a strong sense that together we're stronger than the sum of the individual parts
@IAmGlutton4Life
@IAmGlutton4Life 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanpablosuarezbautista1993 man that's sad but that's the truth man I hope things get better
@italiansoutherner
@italiansoutherner 2 жыл бұрын
The really quick "well" with just a well in the frame at 2:06 was a nice touch.
@JohnVance
@JohnVance 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on hitting a million! You deserve every one of your subscribers. I’ll be here for 10 million!
@danielbonilla431
@danielbonilla431 2 жыл бұрын
**A time machine exists** *Girls:* Hi, I'm you from the future. *Boys:* Hey Bolívar, how many more countries do we need for Gran Colombia? It's incredible to see how my country (Colombia) have lost many territories because of its mistakes. Now we have a problem with Nicaragua with sea borders again. In 2012, we lost a part of our sea and some cays was given to Nicaragua, because Nicaragua won in the Tribunal of Hague.
@genghiskhan5701
@genghiskhan5701 2 жыл бұрын
Gran Colombia falling apart: How are you not dead? United States: I have no idea!
@artilire
@artilire 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting since FOREVER for this episode!!
@TheKobiDror
@TheKobiDror 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always amusing - at least. But this one was high on top. So many little perks that stand out on its own. I had a blast 😂
@vexillarius6376
@vexillarius6376 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Colombia, HM
@fleetwoodcraic4235
@fleetwoodcraic4235 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how spectacularly avoidable this was
@joaoonda
@joaoonda 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation of a often overlooked event in history! :D
@eduardogalvan2315
@eduardogalvan2315 2 жыл бұрын
funny i barely watched your boxer rebellion video rightnow and 5 seconds later i see another video, keep up de goodwork.
@fuckenxio
@fuckenxio 2 жыл бұрын
As a Colombian History student, I have to say this is very accurate. We literally had one civil war after another one until the last in 1902, after which Panamá gained its independence. Great video ^^ ¡Saludos!
@marcosfonseca8195
@marcosfonseca8195 2 жыл бұрын
Pls do: how was life in central asia during the soviet union? Great video by the way!
@kamakiller1145
@kamakiller1145 2 жыл бұрын
Well the borders of the central asian countries don't make any sense they're like the sykes picot borders of the middle east and they were more like provinces to russia during the soviet era
@TheVicariousone1
@TheVicariousone1 2 жыл бұрын
such an awesome channel!
@kevincordoba-llanos4856
@kevincordoba-llanos4856 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, love seeing you take on South American history
@freekmiddelburg5604
@freekmiddelburg5604 2 жыл бұрын
Because James Bisonette wasn't a patron.
@nicolaswalsh5651
@nicolaswalsh5651 Жыл бұрын
Watching this makes you realize just how special and unique the US and it’s founders were. Washington gave up power willingly and Bolivar wanted to keep it for himself, which to be fair is what pretty much everyone else in history did as well.
@DarkshadowXD63
@DarkshadowXD63 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I needed this video like a week ago but it's all good another fantastic video once again
@Jamesmor999
@Jamesmor999 2 жыл бұрын
As A Venezuelan is good to see these kind of videos and also remember that Bolivar lost all support from Venezuela when he declared Bogota as the capital, bad idea to betray the trust of the people who supported for the very start
@Jamesmor999
@Jamesmor999 2 жыл бұрын
@@BENNY-THE-DOG to simply put it was logistics, he wanted the capital to be in the center of the country and Bogota did fulfill that.
@pulanjuri1
@pulanjuri1 2 жыл бұрын
"Now that they had to get along they didnt" Story of yugoslavia
@fabriziozagonel5720
@fabriziozagonel5720 2 жыл бұрын
Since we are about things that are Napoleon's fault you could do a video about the time he indirectly did the United Kingdom of Brazil and Portugal and then the Brazilian Empire.
@freiervogel3440
@freiervogel3440 2 жыл бұрын
None of these things were caused by Napoleon, go easy on your eurocentrism.
@fabriziozagonel5720
@fabriziozagonel5720 2 жыл бұрын
@@freiervogel3440 Literally the portuguese royalty went to Rio de Janeiro to run away from him, the united kingdom of brasil and portugal only existed because of it.
@freiervogel3440
@freiervogel3440 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabriziozagonel5720 True on the fact, false on the conclusion.
@d1sney_fanboy615
@d1sney_fanboy615 2 жыл бұрын
i really love theese videos your'e one in a million evrytime u upload u make my day
@alparslankorkmaz2964
@alparslankorkmaz2964 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained.
@martinmarvinii3139
@martinmarvinii3139 2 жыл бұрын
Well he was right, if Gran Columbia was made a federation like the US who were under the Articles of Confederation at the time it would’ve collapsed just as quickly and even the US became much more centralized in the future to keep itself together. Basically Bolivar had the right idea but he failed to implement it, if he had succeeded we could be looking at a world with a South American equivalent to the US
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 Жыл бұрын
Nah. Bolivar got too big for his britches.
@DarkLordoftheMeme
@DarkLordoftheMeme 2 жыл бұрын
A few suggestions for future topics: Why did it take so long before anyone built something bigger than the pyramids? Was the "axis of evil" a real alliance? Why did no communist country other than the Soviet Union use the hammer and sickle in its national flag?
@Toonrick12
@Toonrick12 2 жыл бұрын
A: If you mean the Pyramids of Giza, it was mostly because of the lack of the buttress or cheap steel, structures couldn't support the massive weight above them. Could also be the lack of a (near) universal standard of measurement meant that multiple places could claim to be the tallest in the world. B: No. Bush Jr made it more of "Our enemies list" after 9/11 to people to rally around and to have scapegoats. C: I would assume that the countries didn't want to look like their country was controlled by the Soviet Union, like if they were a colonial state.
@iapetusmccool
@iapetusmccool 2 жыл бұрын
Angola has a similar flag, with basically the same symbolism.
@sDaenerysTargaryen82
@sDaenerysTargaryen82 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video thanks!
@chaos3007
@chaos3007 2 жыл бұрын
Really good Video continue like this
@georgeamesfort3408
@georgeamesfort3408 2 жыл бұрын
"We have to go back to..." _Let me guess, Napoleon?_ "Napoleon. Always Napoleon."
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