WHY Did Obi Wan Lose to Count Dooku in Revenge of the Sith? Star Wars Explained

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@terraqus8024
@terraqus8024 4 жыл бұрын
Back then Obi Wan had no idea that he's surrounded by 3 Sith lords
@kylefunk546
@kylefunk546 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@weiribeast7748
@weiribeast7748 2 жыл бұрын
Sith Lords are his specialty
@spark300c
@spark300c Жыл бұрын
IT more like 2 because Anakin had not turned to dark side yet.
@CWJ0725
@CWJ0725 Жыл бұрын
and survived that. 🤣🤣
@timeebea
@timeebea Жыл бұрын
@@spark300c just a joke man
@wafflemanofficial3130
@wafflemanofficial3130 7 жыл бұрын
Now I finally know why Palpatine did these strange expressions in the duel.
@jedicomedy
@jedicomedy 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was just being entertained by these guys duking it out. Like when Obi-Wan is crushed under the ledge, he cringes cuz obviously being crushed under a metal ledge would be painful.
@gemknight2193
@gemknight2193 9 ай бұрын
@@jedicomedyI don’t think so. Consider ing his age he must have witnessed many great duels since he has himself trained many accomplished with. The theory of his manipulating the fight seems to make more sense.
@jedicomedy
@jedicomedy 9 ай бұрын
@@gemknight2193 What duels would he have witnessed? Before Qui-Gon fought Darth Maul in 32 BBY there was no contact between Jedi and Sith for 1000 years. So what lightsaber duels would he have witnessed when he was younger, especially considering he was never trained by the Jedi.
@gemknight2193
@gemknight2193 9 ай бұрын
@@jedicomedy Yeah I guess your right. But I still think this theory’s cool.
@jedicomedy
@jedicomedy 9 ай бұрын
@@gemknight2193 Yeah I mean it's cool to think about, cause it gives these moments more depth, but I think some theories add to much and make things complicated
@soulless4255
@soulless4255 7 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin Skywalker trained the Younglings insted of murdering them?
@mothurman
@mothurman 7 жыл бұрын
Half of them turn back to the light and the other have is a really good inquisitorum. That's right inquisitorum.
@rotyler2177
@rotyler2177 7 жыл бұрын
He could have made a fortune.
@soulless4255
@soulless4255 7 жыл бұрын
ok
@soulless4255
@soulless4255 7 жыл бұрын
he did not
@mothurman
@mothurman 7 жыл бұрын
Erik Eriksson Padme would still secks him if he dint killem
@alexmalcolm6309
@alexmalcolm6309 7 жыл бұрын
What if Count Dooku never left the jedi.
@phanatrix3906
@phanatrix3906 4 жыл бұрын
Then he probably also would have been killed from order 66 xD
@samuelfreeman2116
@samuelfreeman2116 4 жыл бұрын
Phana TriX but Dooku was the main placeholder for order 66, without him it might’ve not happened
@dickgori2623
@dickgori2623 3 жыл бұрын
Then Dooku might have joined mace windu to fight palpatine... the fight might have been easier on the jedi in that case.
@Mangalex28
@Mangalex28 7 жыл бұрын
Anyway, we can all agree that the scene with the platform falling on Obiwan while he was unconscious looks like shit.
@robtennant98
@robtennant98 7 жыл бұрын
Mangalex28 agreed, surely it would severely injure him
@Mangalex28
@Mangalex28 7 жыл бұрын
What I meant is the effect/cgi looks like shit. But yeah it should have crushed his legs. He just slides like a rag doll.
@craigm2520
@craigm2520 7 жыл бұрын
They were better off just having Obi Wan hit his head which knocks him out combined with being choked then what they did.
@RJMeta
@RJMeta 7 жыл бұрын
It's pretty bad. You can see Obi-Wan slide across the floor a couple feet as the catwalk falls onto him. That, right there, is bad editing.
@user-vl6oo3zq8g
@user-vl6oo3zq8g 7 жыл бұрын
Looks more like he's being tucked in to bed with a big metal blanket.
@RexMuffin
@RexMuffin 7 жыл бұрын
If I was Dooku, when palpatine told anakin to kill me, I would have yelled: He is the sith lord you are looking for!!!
@ninjacheetah9784
@ninjacheetah9784 Жыл бұрын
Same
@10knovideoisback19
@10knovideoisback19 Жыл бұрын
@@ninjacheetah9784 same
@planegurps7172
@planegurps7172 Жыл бұрын
hard to do when Sidious is force-choking your tongue making you a mute ;)
@nationstremblebeforeme1487
@nationstremblebeforeme1487 Жыл бұрын
He was in Shock having both your hands amputated off in a second has that effect.
@joethahobo
@joethahobo 7 жыл бұрын
Do a what if Dooku said that Palpatine was the sith lord before anakin killed him? Please do it. I wanna see how it would play out
@joethahobo
@joethahobo 7 жыл бұрын
The face Dooku makes at 4:11 looks like he figured out that he is just a pawn and Palpatines plan from the begining was for anakin to be his apprentice.
@MarcoDiFresco
@MarcoDiFresco 7 жыл бұрын
That would be very interesting. I always wondered why Dooku didn't say a word (even just a "whaaat?"), especially since Anakin took quite a few seconds e few line of dialog with Palpatine before killing him.
@christophermatos4888
@christophermatos4888 7 жыл бұрын
joethahobo who knows maybe sidious used the force to control dooku who knows maybe when dooku turned when sidious said killed him kill him now maybe dooku wanted to open his mouth and sidious force shut him
@wirbelfeld4033
@wirbelfeld4033 7 жыл бұрын
Christopher Matos lmao "force shut" isn't a thing. IMO I think dooku just accepted his fate. The sith tend to blame themselves when things go wrong, and I think dooku, knowing his death was imminent decided to accept his fate
@carterwood4197
@carterwood4197 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe Dooku thought that Anakin would spare him.
@KingOfShadows1500
@KingOfShadows1500 7 жыл бұрын
The ''A > B > C'' logic doesn't apply here. Rather, the ''rock, paper, scissors'' one does. Most characters are strong against some, but weak against others. Anakin lost to Dooku because the latter's Makashi was weak against the former's Djem So. Anakin lost to Obi-Wan because he couldn't penetrate his Soresu defense wall. Obi-Wan lost to Dooku because he was simply an inferior duelist and Force user. Just because Obi-Wan was able to defeat Anakin doesn't mean that he'd be able to defeat anyone whom Anakin could. That's not how this works.
@franciscodonato942
@franciscodonato942 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Its all about match ups. Soresu was pure defense and vulnerable to a master Makashi, yet Soresu was the perfect counter against Grievous 3893 lightsabers, and also against Windu's Vapaad--its stated Windu would often tie with Obi Wan because Obi's style was too passive and did not feed into Vapaad.
@OLu_Bastin
@OLu_Bastin 7 жыл бұрын
KingOfShadows1500 Thank you so much for the rock-paper-scissors reference. Every fight has different unique circumstances which need to be taken into account that will directly influence the outcome of the matchup and these factors go beyond who has beat who in the past
@Melanrick
@Melanrick 7 жыл бұрын
A thing i want to add to further add to your explanation is that Anakin was too agressive and Dooku really didint had any time to use any force powers, otherwise he would pretty much die. All the time he had to use it, he choose to use the force on Obi-Wan, because he was the biggest threat. Sure, Anakin won and was stronger, buuuuut Dooku didint tought he would have won, since the last time he fought both, was Obi-Wan who held for longer, so... Also, there is precedence for *SITH* being able to crush the force shield of someone stronger than him. See Bane against the battlemaster at the Sith Academy... Rank doesnt always have something to do with it. Especially if the force user is caught off guard. See Palpatine's fight against Yoda. They both were strong enough to pass each other's force shields... But all the time they did that, they both were caught off guard. And that's what happened. Obi-Wan was caught off guard, and Anakin didint let Dooku get enough room to get funny.
@franciscodonato942
@franciscodonato942 7 жыл бұрын
TheSunStudio1 do you disagree with the logic? I don't see why you're so passionate about defending Windu; it seems very clear to me a form based purely on defense would have an edge on a form that needed dark side energy to fuel its potency. I got my information from the expanded universe. Not my fault Disney decided the novels were not cannon anymore. You should back off kid; it's all theoretical 😂
@franciscodonato942
@franciscodonato942 7 жыл бұрын
TheSunStudio1 I find it hilarious you think you can call a comment childish and still say "no comment". What a spineless thing to say 🙃
@ronmatthews
@ronmatthews 7 жыл бұрын
In the official book "Revenge of the Sith" it says that Palatine told Dooku to go easy on Anakin because he wanted to turn him against the Jedi. This is why he easily dispatched Obi Wan yet never used his powers against Anakin. Dooku was able to hold his own against Yoda the most powerful of the Jedi in a duel as we saw and was ranked THIRD most powerful Jedi force user under Yoda and Mace Windu. Thats the official story.
@williamdavies9339
@williamdavies9339 6 жыл бұрын
Ron Matthews absolutely agree 👍
@GoldChampion23
@GoldChampion23 5 жыл бұрын
The high ground Why do you love obi wan so much?
@GoldChampion23
@GoldChampion23 5 жыл бұрын
The high ground hahahaha
@kylek7306
@kylek7306 4 жыл бұрын
Yea but he tries his hardest towards rhe end and still loses. Mace and yoda couldnt beat him was stated as sell
@samuelfreeman2116
@samuelfreeman2116 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle K then why’d dooku run from yoda.
@antaquar5928
@antaquar5928 7 жыл бұрын
Dooku was so civilized and nice, it makes me think the sith are good and he wasn't evil, always trying to make it peaceful without fighting
@Melanrick
@Melanrick 7 жыл бұрын
You clearly havent seen episode 2 or the clone wars... Dooku isnt nice or civilized! o.O
@antaquar5928
@antaquar5928 7 жыл бұрын
Melanrick saw them both xD In episode 2 dooku told obi wan the truth about palpatine, he gave the jedi the option to surrender, even bought the Jedi who had been captured to the middle of the arena when he could have executed them on site, plo koon was one of them- if it's movie wise he is actually not that evil. The clone wars did add a lot of evil to him, he was a savage there, killing more friendlies than Jedi xD
@Melanrick
@Melanrick 7 жыл бұрын
Antaqua R Yea... He told Obi-Wan the truth about Palpatine* (Edited that) because he knew that he wouldnt belive or was just going to join him. That's what he wanted. Turn Obi-Wan to the Dark Side. Second, he brought the captured jedi back to the arena and tried to make them surender, because Palpatine needed a war to gain absolute power and kill the Jedi Order from bottom to top. If all the 200 Jedi (including Anakin) were to be killed there, then the Jedi Order would have been so crippled, that they would have lost the war right then and there. And the whole point of the war was to kill all the jedi at once. If the jedi felt like losing the war, or if it didint lasted longer, they would either sneak out some masters and padawans or never really trusted the clones enough so that they could be wiped out at once. Also, Even if Count Dooku managed to kill all the council members and even Yoda, a premature lost of that war would rob him of killing the entire jedi order, so he needed the Jedi crippled, but not dead. And if you pay attention, Count Dooku was counting the jedi numbers all the way through... It was a calculated decision based on orders, not a civilized notion of honor. You just need to see what he did to his master and all those inocents on the Clone Wars. He was just a fancy Sith Politician.
@antaquar5928
@antaquar5928 7 жыл бұрын
Melanrick interesting, thank you for going beyond and giving me that well calculated analysis of the situation, it's just that if you judge dooku by the movies only you really don't see him as a really bad guy, more of a Jedi who got demoralized and abandoned what he thought was a corrupt Jedi order and senate, even his facial expressions and way of speaking doesn't seem evil but that is my opinion, clone wars dooku is a different dooku I had never heard of that explanation of the arena on episode 2 and it is interesting
@hanburgundy4317
@hanburgundy4317 7 жыл бұрын
Dooku wasn't evil; he had become disillusioned with the lazy Jedi and the corrupt Republic and helped create the Separatist movement to overthrow them - Sidious simply tempted him to the Dark Side by manipulating his hatred.
@Swift_LN
@Swift_LN 7 жыл бұрын
Palps could have been using battle meditation the whole fight.
@MrRpinto1973
@MrRpinto1973 7 жыл бұрын
Sayonara Chainsaw xylophone cece 8
@filippppppos
@filippppppos 7 жыл бұрын
Like Bastila :P
@NinjaKuma
@NinjaKuma 7 жыл бұрын
Palpatine is a With Lord, of course he cheated
@artonline01
@artonline01 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@rza884
@rza884 7 жыл бұрын
he burst obi wan's bubble
@NinjaKuma
@NinjaKuma 7 жыл бұрын
killerwhale227 I had *one* job
@Dantheman-bw8hv
@Dantheman-bw8hv 4 жыл бұрын
With lord 😂
@sortedevaras
@sortedevaras 7 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin had the high ground?
@Bai_Su_Zhen
@Bai_Su_Zhen 7 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan just wouldn't attack. He was on the defensive for the whole duel xD
@samdiego1989
@samdiego1989 7 жыл бұрын
sortedevaras What I thought was ridiculous is that Anakin could have just ridden the droid a little further, and then jumped up next to Obi Wan instead of trying to jump over him. I think that would have been better. Obi Wan would still win, just a different way.
@Bai_Su_Zhen
@Bai_Su_Zhen 7 жыл бұрын
AgoodSAMaritan Obi-Wan would have to run or he would lose if Anakin didn't get cocky there. The reason he chose to jump from that exact point was that Obi-Wan told him not to try it. Anakin took it as if Obi-Wan indicated Anakin was not powerful enough to make the jump which pissed him off so he tried and threw the duel. But in fact, Anakin was already quite far stronger than Obi-Wan at that point. He was younger and faster and the knowledge of the dark side was giving him powers that Obi-Wan couldn't use.
@samdiego1989
@samdiego1989 7 жыл бұрын
Pechna ¨ That's kind of why it was lame. Anakin was really powerful and should have easily made that jump over Obi Wan. Look at the jump Obi Wan made in Episode One where he jumped up to that platform while they were fighting Darth Maul. Just seemed strange that Anakin didn't make it far enough over him to stay out of reach of the lightsaber. Seems like he would have anticipated Obi Wan slashing at him while he was flipping over him. I still love the movie and the scene that follows is my favorite part of the movie, where Obi Wan is upset and telling Anakin he was the chosen one and all that.
@Bai_Su_Zhen
@Bai_Su_Zhen 7 жыл бұрын
AgoodSAMaritan I actually like it as it is. Great movie.
@LoveThisRealWoman
@LoveThisRealWoman 7 жыл бұрын
It does make some sense, Great video as always😁
@miggyyusay
@miggyyusay 7 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best explanation videos i've seen in a long time :) keep it up, Subscribed!
@senorpsycho1
@senorpsycho1 7 жыл бұрын
It was stated in the novel that Obi-Won had trouble connecting to the force while on the ship has if something was casting a shadow over it. This was being caused by Sidious. After they were captured by Grievous (who was not in on the whole Palpatine being Sith thing), Palpatine dropped this damping effect allowing Obi-Won to fully feel the force again so they could escape. The novel also pointed out that Dooku was about to be overwhelmed Jedi and managed to fling Obi Won in an act of pure desperation.
@Nekosamasensei
@Nekosamasensei 5 жыл бұрын
You nailed this. Your explanation is at the very least what I feel was happening in this scene. Dooku was immensely powerful but old compared to Kenobi. Similar to how Anakin's form V had too much momentum for Dooku, Obi-wan without Sidious would do the opposite. His form III would halt all momentum and lead to odd stand offs. Life in the first fight, where multiple times in the Clone Wars they end up pausing completely. The younger Kenobi kept re-engaging. This older more masterful kenobi without Anakin present would allow those moments to continue and force Dooku to take the imitative every time. I feel like the two could have a near never end duel by the time we reached Revenge of the Sith, with very little damage being done on either side. I do feel that Sidious was doing nothing more than making the room a Dark Side Force Nexus/Vengeance. He was blotting out the light side like the eclipse blots out the sun. He didn't weaken Kenobi's shield there was no shield. Even Anakin receives a fairly forceful force kick and is knocked rather hard. He just doesn't have the ceiling caved in on him by Dooku. Also without the light available to Dooku to draw on he was weak. I don't think he was fully committed to the dark only to his ideals. Like a reverse Jedi he was a slave to the separatists. He had become what he mocked the Jedi for being. Without the lightside he was no match for Anakin's dark side. His pain far out weighted any grief Dooku had ever felt and he was not ready for the full force of Anakin's wrath when his ability to use the light to center himself was peeled away. Also the reason the for no relationships was it led to what Anakin did, hold of his anxiety and than feel free to release it on an enemy as "evil" as Dooku. It was "okay" because it needed to be done to win. Yoda was very ... stubborn or determined to never let students slip to the dark side ever. Not realizing that if he trained and mentored even the most grey Jedi and just bent a little he could have prevent much of this mess. Anakin was groomed by the temple to be a weapon by not recognizing and normalizing his pain. Dooku didn't have that kind of pain to fuel him, he had peace and intellect, and truly was being evil to effect change not to be blatantly evil. Anakin clearly was capable, willing, and ready to be evil. With the light side and the dark Dooku could have held off Kenobi and Anakin to a stalemate but with only the dark only Anakin. Only Anakin was in charge in that room other than Sidious. You are so right that he knew Dooku was more balance and possible stronger than Anakin but he was old. He wanted to make a combination of himself and a Sith assassin all in one and he found it in Anakin.
@samuelbattershell3413
@samuelbattershell3413 7 жыл бұрын
I would say that it was a bit of both, Palpatin interfering and Dooku's superior skill
@davifreyr2127
@davifreyr2127 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. I hadn't thought of that, which is exactly why I love your channel so much! You always seem to be able to bring up interesting and elusive points on the matter. Great job with the video!
@Evanmander
@Evanmander 7 жыл бұрын
Easy to listen to and good job editing. I love the theories that add to the story. Thank you.
@TheFlash-je3bl
@TheFlash-je3bl 7 жыл бұрын
May the Speed Force be with you
@CremeCheesus
@CremeCheesus 7 жыл бұрын
The Flash Shut up Barry
@TheFlash-je3bl
@TheFlash-je3bl 7 жыл бұрын
Jay Garrick Lol
@ser_odin820
@ser_odin820 7 жыл бұрын
oh barrys where!
@PizzaHeister
@PizzaHeister 7 жыл бұрын
You got your ass handed to you by savitar lmao
@calebpayne1065
@calebpayne1065 7 жыл бұрын
May the mass times acceleration be with you
@Sarademyl
@Sarademyl 7 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin didn't kill Count Dooku?
@tjnorth6531
@tjnorth6531 7 жыл бұрын
DinoGames Good idea! I had this idea a while back.
@konac7191
@konac7191 7 жыл бұрын
"Kill him. Kill him now." "He should stand trial." "Do it." "No, he'll stand trial" "Do it." "No." "...Pretty please?"
@joshvswild949
@joshvswild949 7 жыл бұрын
Dewit
@stationary_Boundary
@stationary_Boundary 7 жыл бұрын
Bobo Squiggilywinks I can see Ian saying that just for the hell of it
@blandon93
@blandon93 4 жыл бұрын
he would be silent. Either Palpatine kill him in prison, or he escapes and get killed by Anakin/Obi-Wan/Windou.
@JTRshuffleboy
@JTRshuffleboy 7 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE BEST!!! honestly much love to all the videos you make there amazing
@erdmax_
@erdmax_ 6 жыл бұрын
So amazing to see this channel grow. More than deserved it.
@erdmax_
@erdmax_ 6 жыл бұрын
Deserves*
@jakubogloza4376
@jakubogloza4376 6 жыл бұрын
Palpatine did make Obi Wan lose but did not influence Anakin
@Orto-jj2di
@Orto-jj2di 4 жыл бұрын
He actually did when he made sure dooku was stronger than dooku in tbe dark side, plus he couldn't risk having dooku stay alive
@Tinman710
@Tinman710 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd like to think anakin whooped his ass without any help.
@planegurps7172
@planegurps7172 Жыл бұрын
@@Orto-jj2di Dooku was stronger than Dooku?
@tengkualiff
@tengkualiff 7 жыл бұрын
its like rock paper scissors between this three xD
@fantasyfictionfandom814
@fantasyfictionfandom814 7 жыл бұрын
Tengku Aliff Yes. Dooku beats Obi-Wan. Anakin beats Dooku. Obi-Wan beats Anakin. Doesn't really make sense.
@fantasyfictionfandom814
@fantasyfictionfandom814 7 жыл бұрын
Tengku Aliff Yes. Dooku beats Obi-Wan. Anakin beats Dooku. Obi-Wan beats Anakin. Doesn't really make sense.
@Excalibur2112
@Excalibur2112 7 жыл бұрын
Just because person B can beat person A, and Person C can beat person B, does not mean person C can beat person A in all cases.
@Hazaroth
@Hazaroth 6 жыл бұрын
It actually makes perfect sense Anakin>Dooku>Obi Wan Anakin was a better fighter than obi wan he only lost because obi wan got lucky and had the higher ground
@Dantheman-bw8hv
@Dantheman-bw8hv 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hazaroth Darth Maul had the high ground and still lost
@Steve_Hayden
@Steve_Hayden 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that was educational and entertaining. I'm a casual star wars watcher, but you're made the movies so much more than they were to me, THANK YOU!
@dylanmorgan17
@dylanmorgan17 5 жыл бұрын
You are helping me remember what I used to love about Star Wars.
@mitchellhayward6492
@mitchellhayward6492 7 жыл бұрын
Love what you did with Palpatine in this vid.
@Posteritys
@Posteritys 7 жыл бұрын
His Channel is Growing Hella Fast Congrats
@dnm8959
@dnm8959 7 жыл бұрын
this make sense everything on episode 3, thx for the great analisys
@cruros9084
@cruros9084 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid!
@joshuavaldez6925
@joshuavaldez6925 7 жыл бұрын
From a conversation I had with a old friend, he said Palpatine actually was draining dooku "force power" and was little by little disconnecting him from the force which helped anakin prevail. As we all know the one with the better connection to the force tends to win.
@Orto-jj2di
@Orto-jj2di Жыл бұрын
I think he helped both of them. He helped dooku rid of kenobi while also weakening dooku. For palptaine from personal side its all just a game of chess. A game with himself to be accurate
@SirKnobofCheese
@SirKnobofCheese 7 жыл бұрын
The reason obi wan lost was because the script said so.
@CrazzySteveable
@CrazzySteveable 7 жыл бұрын
great video as always !!
@lpg12338
@lpg12338 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for uploading.
@TheBohobemeister
@TheBohobemeister 7 жыл бұрын
In Son of Dathomir, what would have happened if Dooku joined Maul?
@mariochaosspear
@mariochaosspear 7 жыл бұрын
Detective Bohobe Dooku would eventually betray and kill Maul. Remember, Maul killed Dooku's apprentice on Naboo.
@mariochaosspear
@mariochaosspear 7 жыл бұрын
tommysil I don't see how I'm wrong. Dooku must've hated Maul for killing Qui-Gon, his apprentice and the man he considered his son.
@marquismanigault7041
@marquismanigault7041 7 жыл бұрын
damn that makes so much sense.
@mt.sinnamon9562
@mt.sinnamon9562 6 жыл бұрын
I for the life of me, couldn't stop laughing at the little comical sounds playing in realization to different moments. Great video! I love this perspective.
@killerboy99100
@killerboy99100 7 жыл бұрын
oh my god I've never heard of this theory but I absolutely love it, I love your videos man, keep up the great work
@darthdestroyer11
@darthdestroyer11 7 жыл бұрын
When is what if anakin turned obi wan to the dark side part 2
@pricillalopez7459
@pricillalopez7459 7 жыл бұрын
I still wonder, why didnt count Dooku Just stabbed Obi Wan when he held him in the air in that brief moment
@alankeyz1
@alankeyz1 7 жыл бұрын
Dooku is one of my favorite saber fighters. He's so silky smooth and gracefull.
@TimothyBukowskiApologist
@TimothyBukowskiApologist 7 жыл бұрын
This is a BRILLIANT explanation!
@chrissytheconqueror7049
@chrissytheconqueror7049 6 жыл бұрын
I do think Sidious used the force to help Dooku with Obi-Wan, but I'm pretty sure he then let Skywalker and Dooku fight for the title of Dark Lord, for he surely wanted the strongest apprentice possible...
@mws755
@mws755 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@slashbash6486
@slashbash6486 Жыл бұрын
@@mws755 highly doubt it, since dooku consistently beats obi wan throughout the clone wars wars.
@planegurps7172
@planegurps7172 Жыл бұрын
@@slashbash6486 Dooku consistently beat Anakin in TCW too, that's how they leveled up to approach his level
@cliffsta87337
@cliffsta87337 6 жыл бұрын
Palp cheated for sure.
@keeganmh123
@keeganmh123 7 жыл бұрын
I love and watch all your videos keep up the good work
@PadawanAR
@PadawanAR 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I really liked this one. And agree with your conclusions. Very clever indeed. :)
@Langford-Artist
@Langford-Artist 6 жыл бұрын
I always knew that Palpi had some thing to do with it because in the Clone Wars Obi wan was always on par with Dooku
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 2 жыл бұрын
No Dooku was going easy on them most of the time he was able to tank force pushes from Anakin and effortlessly move out of the way of a force wave from Anakin And Obi Wan
@olkarism
@olkarism 7 жыл бұрын
yes i believe Sidious very powerful even enough to change the shift of a duel or battle
@toshi5000
@toshi5000 7 жыл бұрын
I never thought about it from this perspective. Good insight
@damienrumeau1399
@damienrumeau1399 7 жыл бұрын
AWESOME EXPLAINATION
@joshuamoyer4141
@joshuamoyer4141 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure this video is going to go into way more datail than I can, but here are my possible reasons: A. Anakin got cocky against Obi Wan B. Anakin beat Dooku in part thanks to Obi-wan tiring him out C. Different styles are more effective against some styles than others, i.e. charmander beats bulbasaur beats squirtle type deal.
@joshuamoyer4141
@joshuamoyer4141 7 жыл бұрын
Okay yeah I never noticed that
@Ayatron34
@Ayatron34 7 жыл бұрын
Sideous boosting Anakin defeats the point of the test and therefore the whole scene. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
@bulllea
@bulllea 7 жыл бұрын
he said that boosting occur AFTER anakin start using his anger . and this is the purpose of the whole test .
@Ayatron34
@Ayatron34 7 жыл бұрын
Bull Lea The purpose was to see if Anakin was greater than Dooku. Sideous didn't want an angry weakling. Boosting Anakin at any point would be an admission that Anakin is weaker.
@klerta
@klerta 7 жыл бұрын
Good video like always
@leif3925
@leif3925 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent deduction!
@WalterLiddy
@WalterLiddy 7 жыл бұрын
Answer: Because that's what the plot required. End of.
@Mr33500
@Mr33500 7 жыл бұрын
Answer: Because Dooku is better. ABC logic is faulty as fuck. "Joker beat Batman, Batman beat Superman, Superman beat Darkseid, therefore Joker beats Superman and Darkseid."
@alucardtepes2373
@alucardtepes2373 7 жыл бұрын
what if the sith pure bloods escaped Darth Bane's thought bomb and returned after the fall of the emperor and Darth Vader
@seb2724
@seb2724 7 жыл бұрын
Good theory as a Star Wars fan knowing almost everything about Star Wars this is something I didn't think about, love this channel watch all the videos, keep going
@seb2724
@seb2724 7 жыл бұрын
Although I know almost everything, I would like to see a theory to why anakins hair didn't grow back as darth vader, I know the burns and stuff but he went under powerful and great treatment and didn't grow his his back even a bit
@starforcefighter
@starforcefighter 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know whats the purpose of the baath treatment chamber if it heals you from the inside, but not the outside. (Cellular repair should work from the inside & outside, just like the healing chamber from the movie Stargate) All that technology in Star Wars universe with hyper drives, cybernetics enhancement, and etc. Anakin(Darth Vader) did not get a skin graft or a damn hair transplant-lol
@ottomanpapyrus9365
@ottomanpapyrus9365 Жыл бұрын
Honestly sure Vader don't give two shits about his hair at that point
@lyndonbekhuis8714
@lyndonbekhuis8714 7 жыл бұрын
Nice thanks for that one.. was one my big questions
@williamedward1666
@williamedward1666 7 жыл бұрын
Well, you yourself once noted that Obi-Wan wasn't actually that naturally talented of a Force-user, at least compared to some of the other Jedi. Maybe his Force shield just wasn't as strong?
@donnellebarfield3964
@donnellebarfield3964 7 жыл бұрын
his lack of natural talent was a blessing that forced him to be defensive even though many jedi are better then obi won
@frankdees507
@frankdees507 6 жыл бұрын
Legate Alucard It was his way of compensating. It's the same way Vader being in the suit forced him to become more powerful in his strength of the force, since he no longer had the speed, and daring lightsaber maneuvers he'd had before the suit. Instead of fighting acrobatically, he simply became an unmovable force, even for groups of jedi.
@paulsamson3384
@paulsamson3384 6 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that it's because Obi-Wan's combat style is meant to be used against heavy attackers like Anakin or Grevious. Count Dooku on the other hand is a balance thus making Obi-Wan's tactics ineffective.
@EfecanYSL
@EfecanYSL 6 жыл бұрын
i agree with paul here and also obi-wan having a lesser connection to the force made him weak against force powers because we also see him getting force pushed and choked many times in clone wars series while dooku couldn't do anything to anakin. what i don't understand is how did obi-wan stood his own against anakin's force push in mustafar there are so many plot holes it's clear they buffed obi-wan in the last fight.
@theodoreferro4090
@theodoreferro4090 6 жыл бұрын
William Edward yeah Obi Wan was relatively weak in the Force, same with Luke, who was weak as well
@FromRussiaWithLuv007
@FromRussiaWithLuv007 7 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF.... Luke had run away from home to join the empire and become a Stormtrooper?
@Vccine
@Vccine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the force shield. I always wondered why force users don't just constantly force push/lightning/choke one another. Now it makes sense.
@kevinverzee8873
@kevinverzee8873 7 жыл бұрын
Cool Video man!
@megaforce3357
@megaforce3357 7 жыл бұрын
What if rebels failed to destroy deathstar?
@joethahobo
@joethahobo 7 жыл бұрын
Yavin would be destroyed along with a majority of the rebels. therefore the empire last much much longer
@tombateman1837
@tombateman1837 7 жыл бұрын
then they would be fucked
@Battleguild
@Battleguild 7 жыл бұрын
The empire would've been capable of thwarting the Thrawn Invasion with the power of the Death Star, unlike the current result which was a crippled New Republic, which was almost too weak to defend themselves. EU only of course.
@joee95
@joee95 7 жыл бұрын
did palpatine cause force constapation on mace at 2:00
@Brutallav
@Brutallav 7 жыл бұрын
Love ya stuff bro
@marauderpictures6815
@marauderpictures6815 7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos.
@MusicByTomas
@MusicByTomas 7 жыл бұрын
do why Anakin lost to dooku in episode 2
@whereisanon8749
@whereisanon8749 7 жыл бұрын
Tomás Jonsson because he was a padawan fighting against a ex jedimaster sithlord ....
@NiightDJ
@NiightDJ 6 жыл бұрын
Fit Kísto LOL
@bobolobo9487
@bobolobo9487 6 жыл бұрын
Too much sand, so anakin was weakened
@queezerrr
@queezerrr 7 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin saved Shmi from dying in Attack if the Clones??
@sunrider7956
@sunrider7956 7 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering why Obiwan got knocked out for years. Thanks for the answer!
@IvanGarciaLandero
@IvanGarciaLandero 7 жыл бұрын
Good one, I never thought that
@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 6 жыл бұрын
this has got palpatine written all over this sh*t here trust me lol
@StarTrooper
@StarTrooper 7 жыл бұрын
Lucas said Anakin is the strongest in the Force end of story! Anakin saved Obi 10 times remember!
@CodyHeldreth
@CodyHeldreth 7 жыл бұрын
Nine times! That business on Cato Neimoidia doesn't count...
@StarTrooper
@StarTrooper 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@costbart
@costbart 7 жыл бұрын
skill over potential.
@byteresistor
@byteresistor 7 жыл бұрын
Actually according to Lucas it was Luke. Anakin became a crippled half machine before he reached his full potential.
@thepikarivera7706
@thepikarivera7706 7 жыл бұрын
Look at how the fight in Mustafar went. Obi Wan was smarter. Brains over brawns.
@DolkkarToyznstuff
@DolkkarToyznstuff 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and I can definitely see what you're taking about here. Makes sense to me anyway.
@adamleon9128
@adamleon9128 7 жыл бұрын
i love this channel so much
@gn0015
@gn0015 7 жыл бұрын
The fight was rigged. The establishment Sith favored Anakin making it easier for him to win. It's true, believe me.
@jedicomedy
@jedicomedy 3 жыл бұрын
It's not true. You're not giving credit where credit is due to Anakin's skills.
@gn0015
@gn0015 3 жыл бұрын
@@jedicomedy Call me the next time you're having a party. Gotta be a fun one.
@jedicomedy
@jedicomedy 3 жыл бұрын
@@gn0015 Yeah, it'll be fun until you show up.
@chrishall2594
@chrishall2594 7 жыл бұрын
This is so wrong. Dooku was far more experienced and a little more powerful than both. Sidious didn't need to interfere, those were obviously just silly grunts of faked expression for the good guys. As you see he was able to force push both anakin and obi wan. In the end it was Anakin's use of the dark side and his anger that let him win, as he has the potential to be the more powerful, yet is still young. Also, Obi Wan's experience and anakin's cockiness are what caused the outcome of their duel.
@brianhurley890
@brianhurley890 7 жыл бұрын
great video, I knew that Palpatine had influenced the fight but did not realize exactly how until watching this
@keyseronthewire2575
@keyseronthewire2575 5 жыл бұрын
Easily your best video. A lot of people overlook the subtle details in this final fight between Anakin & Kenobi vs Dooku. Right before something happens to him, it cuts to Palpatine performing gestures of sorts to disrupt Kebobi's force wall. Dooku couldn't penetrate his defenses and the battle was really about Anakin vs Dooku... Palpatine didn't want Kenobi interfering with his business again, so they made sure he was knocked out of the fight asap. For those who question his force wall, hard work beats talent when talent never works hard. One's dedication to the force is what strengthens them even more... That's Why he matched Anakin in a force push standoff. Obi-Wan is strong in the force, he was extremely dedicated, that's what it is really about, strengthening your own connection to the force itself.
@joeneauxvieve6203
@joeneauxvieve6203 7 жыл бұрын
What if only Luke or only Leia was born?
@Slim_Pyro
@Slim_Pyro 7 жыл бұрын
Star Wars Fan Girl if leia was born she would be trained by Obi Wan if Luke Obi Wan would train him to ig
@jlorraine5123
@jlorraine5123 7 жыл бұрын
Who is exited for rouge one!!!!! 😜👍
@fantasyfictionfandom814
@fantasyfictionfandom814 7 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Eggers I live in England so we get it on this 15th.
@jlorraine5123
@jlorraine5123 7 жыл бұрын
Lucky
@calebpayne1065
@calebpayne1065 7 жыл бұрын
Going today :)
@vjfjgfjhfgh3472
@vjfjgfjhfgh3472 7 жыл бұрын
learn how to spell you dumb blonde
@Harukakanata94
@Harukakanata94 7 жыл бұрын
You always start a sentence with a capital letter. And you forgot the comma, between "spell" and "you" ;P
@TakerSlayer.
@TakerSlayer. 7 жыл бұрын
I love your vids man i am subscribing
@joeprice988
@joeprice988 7 жыл бұрын
I like this explanation. It also adds weight to how strong Yoda is in the force when he pushes Sidious across the room at the end of the film.
@cubearts1
@cubearts1 7 жыл бұрын
what if both qui gon jinn and Obi wan were killed during the Phantom menace?
@elijahstiles3012
@elijahstiles3012 7 жыл бұрын
The Ridiculous Otaku maul was actually sent by Sidious to kill the Queen and retrieve Anakin
@hanburgundy4317
@hanburgundy4317 7 жыл бұрын
Sidious had no plans to train Anakin until it was brought to his attention when Qui-Gon found him and brought him before the Jedi Council. Maul was meant to kill the Jedi one by one and was Sidious' true apprentice, but when he lost in hubris to Kenobi, Sidious sought a replacement and Anakin was perfect.
@arbhall7572
@arbhall7572 7 жыл бұрын
He didnt replace Maul with Anakin though, he replaced him with Dooku. Gave him a Darth title and everything. Darth Tyrannus.
@hanburgundy4317
@hanburgundy4317 7 жыл бұрын
Arbhall McDougall Dooku was only a means to an end; Sidious never considered him a true apprentice - he was expendable and a tool to use.
@arbhall7572
@arbhall7572 7 жыл бұрын
War Machine After the rule of two came out, if you were not sith, you did not get the title Darth. It was different than the Jedi handing out the title Master all over the place, it meant something. He was a Sith, but you are right, he was very likely expendable, but he was still a Sith. True Sith died out thousands of years before the movies events. True Sith were a species, and they gone. Both from the galaxy of star wars and star wars canon. Since all that is just legends now. But in current canon, Darth Tyrannus/ Count Dooku, was a Sith lord.
@allounrafik5067
@allounrafik5067 7 жыл бұрын
Dooku is much more powerful than Obi wan in the force, and the makashi is well suited for fighting Soresu, in fact Dooku was one of the few who could be a real threat to Obi Wan, and i absolutely disagree with this way of guessing power levels, like 1 beats 2 and 3 beats 1 so 3 beats 2 ... this isnt taking in account the specialisation and affinities of characters toward each other fighting style, Obi wan shield of force was broken many times by lesser users of the force than Dooku, Darth maul did it Assaj too during the clone wars and it is stated clearly than one of Soresu problems is its weakness to force based attacks, because the user focuses too much on the defensive techniques with his lightsaber, i think rather that Sidious asked Dooku to lure anakin to the dark side and not fight him at 100% because in the clone wars serie Dooku bested anakin many many times, he didnt even use force lightning on him in this duel, which is a proof that the mission assigned to dooku wasnt to kill Anakin, but gain him as a pawn for future plans (like they did for assaj or savage opress) ! and the surprise in the face of Dooku in the end isnt because he was not excpecting Palpatine to execute him for failure (this is the sith ways after all) but his understanding that luring Anakin to the dark side during the duel while not fighting him at 100% was the way that planned palpatine to kill him ...
@Lukeywoodsey
@Lukeywoodsey 7 жыл бұрын
Most things I can explain, but this fight I really struggle with. Now I can, thanks ☺️👍
@Jde-vv3cu
@Jde-vv3cu 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Palpatine whispered ‘yeet’ before dooku threw Obi Wan across the room
@autotechxbox163
@autotechxbox163 7 жыл бұрын
Well, Palpatine/Sidious is a sleazeball manipulator who managed to destroy the republic.
@mrmusicfanatic1
@mrmusicfanatic1 7 жыл бұрын
And founded an empire that spread all the way across the galaxy
@allosaurusrca8364
@allosaurusrca8364 7 жыл бұрын
Cuz then the story would be ruined
@Gdogvolt
@Gdogvolt 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I love your channel, and you are currently my favorite youtuber. I hope that you have a good day too. :)
@SuperMSL
@SuperMSL 7 жыл бұрын
The zoom ins on Sidious and the sound effect are hilarious to me for some reason. XD
@M.W.K6996
@M.W.K6996 7 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Dooku was the greatest swordsman in the Star Wars universe, after Palpatine.
@Excalibur2112
@Excalibur2112 7 жыл бұрын
After Palpatine and Yoda...In the novels I think he was said to have bested Windu even, only Yoda and Dooku could best Windu in a lightsaber duel.
@M.W.K6996
@M.W.K6996 7 жыл бұрын
excalibur2112 That makes sense. But let's not forget that Dooku could stand up to Yoda.
@BoogerLeader
@BoogerLeader 7 жыл бұрын
Windu and Dooku fought to stalemates, he never beat Windu, the same with Yoda. However, Windu never used his form to its fullest when dueling since it required him to turn dark to use it, and that wasn't something he did unless it was required, and a normal duel with friends wouldn't require that. Also, Windu could also use the opponent's dark emotions against them and would empower him, which is how he beat Palpatine. People give Dooku too much credit. Qui Gon also fought Dooku to a stand-still.
@Mr33500
@Mr33500 7 жыл бұрын
+BoogerLeader On the contrary people give Dooku too little credit. Dooku and Windu fought to a standstill so it could be reasonably inferred that they were equal in sword fighting, since it was just a friendly duel neither of them would go full out.
@geekyradical4985
@geekyradical4985 6 жыл бұрын
BoogerLeader No. Both Yoda and Count Dooku defeated Mace Windu, in Jedi sparring sessions.
@MizanQistina
@MizanQistina 7 жыл бұрын
No, Obiwan make mistakes because he's too worried about Anakin, exposing him to weakness
@michael13686
@michael13686 7 жыл бұрын
Nah,Obi Wan was always emotionally stable.
@LedBallonsFallDown
@LedBallonsFallDown 7 жыл бұрын
good video. nice outtro!
@jamierowe_
@jamierowe_ 5 жыл бұрын
I love forgetting these older vids.....so i can come back n watch em like new later 💪🤘
@aidana11168
@aidana11168 7 жыл бұрын
I think palpitine interfered
@ninjacheetah9784
@ninjacheetah9784 3 жыл бұрын
Nahh I think Anakin just beat Dooku
@antony185
@antony185 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video!❗❗❗❗❕❕❕❕
@thewarlock9846
@thewarlock9846 4 жыл бұрын
OK that's interesting! Nice video
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