Now I finally know why Palpatine did these strange expressions in the duel.
@jedicomedy4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was just being entertained by these guys duking it out. Like when Obi-Wan is crushed under the ledge, he cringes cuz obviously being crushed under a metal ledge would be painful.
@gemknight2193 Жыл бұрын
@@jedicomedyI don’t think so. Consider ing his age he must have witnessed many great duels since he has himself trained many accomplished with. The theory of his manipulating the fight seems to make more sense.
@jedicomedy Жыл бұрын
@@gemknight2193 What duels would he have witnessed? Before Qui-Gon fought Darth Maul in 32 BBY there was no contact between Jedi and Sith for 1000 years. So what lightsaber duels would he have witnessed when he was younger, especially considering he was never trained by the Jedi.
@gemknight2193 Жыл бұрын
@@jedicomedy Yeah I guess your right. But I still think this theory’s cool.
@jedicomedy Жыл бұрын
@@gemknight2193 Yeah I mean it's cool to think about, cause it gives these moments more depth, but I think some theories add to much and make things complicated
@soulless42558 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin Skywalker trained the Younglings insted of murdering them?
@mothurman8 жыл бұрын
Half of them turn back to the light and the other have is a really good inquisitorum. That's right inquisitorum.
@rotyler21778 жыл бұрын
He could have made a fortune.
@soulless42558 жыл бұрын
ok
@soulless42558 жыл бұрын
he did not
@mothurman8 жыл бұрын
Erik Eriksson Padme would still secks him if he dint killem
@terraqus80245 жыл бұрын
Back then Obi Wan had no idea that he's surrounded by 3 Sith lords
@kylefunk5462 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@weiribeast77482 жыл бұрын
Sith Lords are his specialty
@spark300c2 жыл бұрын
IT more like 2 because Anakin had not turned to dark side yet.
@CWJ07252 жыл бұрын
and survived that. 🤣🤣
@timeebea2 жыл бұрын
@@spark300c just a joke man
@alexmalcolm63098 жыл бұрын
What if Count Dooku never left the jedi.
@phanatrix39064 жыл бұрын
Then he probably also would have been killed from order 66 xD
@samuelfreeman21164 жыл бұрын
Phana TriX but Dooku was the main placeholder for order 66, without him it might’ve not happened
@dickgori26234 жыл бұрын
Then Dooku might have joined mace windu to fight palpatine... the fight might have been easier on the jedi in that case.
@KingOfShadows15008 жыл бұрын
The ''A > B > C'' logic doesn't apply here. Rather, the ''rock, paper, scissors'' one does. Most characters are strong against some, but weak against others. Anakin lost to Dooku because the latter's Makashi was weak against the former's Djem So. Anakin lost to Obi-Wan because he couldn't penetrate his Soresu defense wall. Obi-Wan lost to Dooku because he was simply an inferior duelist and Force user. Just because Obi-Wan was able to defeat Anakin doesn't mean that he'd be able to defeat anyone whom Anakin could. That's not how this works.
@franciscodonato9428 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Its all about match ups. Soresu was pure defense and vulnerable to a master Makashi, yet Soresu was the perfect counter against Grievous 3893 lightsabers, and also against Windu's Vapaad--its stated Windu would often tie with Obi Wan because Obi's style was too passive and did not feed into Vapaad.
@OLu_Bastin8 жыл бұрын
KingOfShadows1500 Thank you so much for the rock-paper-scissors reference. Every fight has different unique circumstances which need to be taken into account that will directly influence the outcome of the matchup and these factors go beyond who has beat who in the past
@Melanrick8 жыл бұрын
A thing i want to add to further add to your explanation is that Anakin was too agressive and Dooku really didint had any time to use any force powers, otherwise he would pretty much die. All the time he had to use it, he choose to use the force on Obi-Wan, because he was the biggest threat. Sure, Anakin won and was stronger, buuuuut Dooku didint tought he would have won, since the last time he fought both, was Obi-Wan who held for longer, so... Also, there is precedence for *SITH* being able to crush the force shield of someone stronger than him. See Bane against the battlemaster at the Sith Academy... Rank doesnt always have something to do with it. Especially if the force user is caught off guard. See Palpatine's fight against Yoda. They both were strong enough to pass each other's force shields... But all the time they did that, they both were caught off guard. And that's what happened. Obi-Wan was caught off guard, and Anakin didint let Dooku get enough room to get funny.
@franciscodonato9428 жыл бұрын
TheSunStudio1 do you disagree with the logic? I don't see why you're so passionate about defending Windu; it seems very clear to me a form based purely on defense would have an edge on a form that needed dark side energy to fuel its potency. I got my information from the expanded universe. Not my fault Disney decided the novels were not cannon anymore. You should back off kid; it's all theoretical 😂
@franciscodonato9428 жыл бұрын
TheSunStudio1 I find it hilarious you think you can call a comment childish and still say "no comment". What a spineless thing to say 🙃
@Mangalex288 жыл бұрын
Anyway, we can all agree that the scene with the platform falling on Obiwan while he was unconscious looks like shit.
@robtennant988 жыл бұрын
Mangalex28 agreed, surely it would severely injure him
@Mangalex288 жыл бұрын
What I meant is the effect/cgi looks like shit. But yeah it should have crushed his legs. He just slides like a rag doll.
@craigm25207 жыл бұрын
They were better off just having Obi Wan hit his head which knocks him out combined with being choked then what they did.
@RJMeta7 жыл бұрын
It's pretty bad. You can see Obi-Wan slide across the floor a couple feet as the catwalk falls onto him. That, right there, is bad editing.
@user-vl6oo3zq8g7 жыл бұрын
Looks more like he's being tucked in to bed with a big metal blanket.
@RexMuffin8 жыл бұрын
If I was Dooku, when palpatine told anakin to kill me, I would have yelled: He is the sith lord you are looking for!!!
@ninjacheetah97842 жыл бұрын
Same
@10knovideoisback192 жыл бұрын
@@ninjacheetah9784 same
@planegurps71722 жыл бұрын
hard to do when Sidious is force-choking your tongue making you a mute ;)
@nationstremblebeforeme1487 Жыл бұрын
He was in Shock having both your hands amputated off in a second has that effect.
@ronmatthews8 жыл бұрын
In the official book "Revenge of the Sith" it says that Palatine told Dooku to go easy on Anakin because he wanted to turn him against the Jedi. This is why he easily dispatched Obi Wan yet never used his powers against Anakin. Dooku was able to hold his own against Yoda the most powerful of the Jedi in a duel as we saw and was ranked THIRD most powerful Jedi force user under Yoda and Mace Windu. Thats the official story.
@williamdavies93397 жыл бұрын
Ron Matthews absolutely agree 👍
@GoldChampion236 жыл бұрын
The high ground Why do you love obi wan so much?
@GoldChampion236 жыл бұрын
The high ground hahahaha
@kylek73064 жыл бұрын
Yea but he tries his hardest towards rhe end and still loses. Mace and yoda couldnt beat him was stated as sell
@samuelfreeman21164 жыл бұрын
Kyle K then why’d dooku run from yoda.
@joethahobo8 жыл бұрын
Do a what if Dooku said that Palpatine was the sith lord before anakin killed him? Please do it. I wanna see how it would play out
@joethahobo8 жыл бұрын
The face Dooku makes at 4:11 looks like he figured out that he is just a pawn and Palpatines plan from the begining was for anakin to be his apprentice.
@MarcoDiFresco8 жыл бұрын
That would be very interesting. I always wondered why Dooku didn't say a word (even just a "whaaat?"), especially since Anakin took quite a few seconds e few line of dialog with Palpatine before killing him.
@christophermatos48888 жыл бұрын
joethahobo who knows maybe sidious used the force to control dooku who knows maybe when dooku turned when sidious said killed him kill him now maybe dooku wanted to open his mouth and sidious force shut him
@wirbelfeld40338 жыл бұрын
Christopher Matos lmao "force shut" isn't a thing. IMO I think dooku just accepted his fate. The sith tend to blame themselves when things go wrong, and I think dooku, knowing his death was imminent decided to accept his fate
@carterwood41978 жыл бұрын
Maybe Dooku thought that Anakin would spare him.
@Nekosamasensei5 жыл бұрын
You nailed this. Your explanation is at the very least what I feel was happening in this scene. Dooku was immensely powerful but old compared to Kenobi. Similar to how Anakin's form V had too much momentum for Dooku, Obi-wan without Sidious would do the opposite. His form III would halt all momentum and lead to odd stand offs. Life in the first fight, where multiple times in the Clone Wars they end up pausing completely. The younger Kenobi kept re-engaging. This older more masterful kenobi without Anakin present would allow those moments to continue and force Dooku to take the imitative every time. I feel like the two could have a near never end duel by the time we reached Revenge of the Sith, with very little damage being done on either side. I do feel that Sidious was doing nothing more than making the room a Dark Side Force Nexus/Vengeance. He was blotting out the light side like the eclipse blots out the sun. He didn't weaken Kenobi's shield there was no shield. Even Anakin receives a fairly forceful force kick and is knocked rather hard. He just doesn't have the ceiling caved in on him by Dooku. Also without the light available to Dooku to draw on he was weak. I don't think he was fully committed to the dark only to his ideals. Like a reverse Jedi he was a slave to the separatists. He had become what he mocked the Jedi for being. Without the lightside he was no match for Anakin's dark side. His pain far out weighted any grief Dooku had ever felt and he was not ready for the full force of Anakin's wrath when his ability to use the light to center himself was peeled away. Also the reason the for no relationships was it led to what Anakin did, hold of his anxiety and than feel free to release it on an enemy as "evil" as Dooku. It was "okay" because it needed to be done to win. Yoda was very ... stubborn or determined to never let students slip to the dark side ever. Not realizing that if he trained and mentored even the most grey Jedi and just bent a little he could have prevent much of this mess. Anakin was groomed by the temple to be a weapon by not recognizing and normalizing his pain. Dooku didn't have that kind of pain to fuel him, he had peace and intellect, and truly was being evil to effect change not to be blatantly evil. Anakin clearly was capable, willing, and ready to be evil. With the light side and the dark Dooku could have held off Kenobi and Anakin to a stalemate but with only the dark only Anakin. Only Anakin was in charge in that room other than Sidious. You are so right that he knew Dooku was more balance and possible stronger than Anakin but he was old. He wanted to make a combination of himself and a Sith assassin all in one and he found it in Anakin.
@mt.sinnamon95627 жыл бұрын
I for the life of me, couldn't stop laughing at the little comical sounds playing in realization to different moments. Great video! I love this perspective.
@senorpsycho17 жыл бұрын
It was stated in the novel that Obi-Won had trouble connecting to the force while on the ship has if something was casting a shadow over it. This was being caused by Sidious. After they were captured by Grievous (who was not in on the whole Palpatine being Sith thing), Palpatine dropped this damping effect allowing Obi-Won to fully feel the force again so they could escape. The novel also pointed out that Dooku was about to be overwhelmed Jedi and managed to fling Obi Won in an act of pure desperation.
@Steve_Hayden3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that was educational and entertaining. I'm a casual star wars watcher, but you're made the movies so much more than they were to me, THANK YOU!
@NinjaKuma8 жыл бұрын
Palpatine is a With Lord, of course he cheated
@artonline018 жыл бұрын
lol
@rza8848 жыл бұрын
he burst obi wan's bubble
@NinjaKuma8 жыл бұрын
killerwhale227 I had *one* job
@Dantheman-bw8hv4 жыл бұрын
With lord 😂
@miggyyusay8 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best explanation videos i've seen in a long time :) keep it up, Subscribed!
@antaquar59288 жыл бұрын
Dooku was so civilized and nice, it makes me think the sith are good and he wasn't evil, always trying to make it peaceful without fighting
@Melanrick8 жыл бұрын
You clearly havent seen episode 2 or the clone wars... Dooku isnt nice or civilized! o.O
@antaquar59288 жыл бұрын
Melanrick saw them both xD In episode 2 dooku told obi wan the truth about palpatine, he gave the jedi the option to surrender, even bought the Jedi who had been captured to the middle of the arena when he could have executed them on site, plo koon was one of them- if it's movie wise he is actually not that evil. The clone wars did add a lot of evil to him, he was a savage there, killing more friendlies than Jedi xD
@Melanrick8 жыл бұрын
Antaqua R Yea... He told Obi-Wan the truth about Palpatine* (Edited that) because he knew that he wouldnt belive or was just going to join him. That's what he wanted. Turn Obi-Wan to the Dark Side. Second, he brought the captured jedi back to the arena and tried to make them surender, because Palpatine needed a war to gain absolute power and kill the Jedi Order from bottom to top. If all the 200 Jedi (including Anakin) were to be killed there, then the Jedi Order would have been so crippled, that they would have lost the war right then and there. And the whole point of the war was to kill all the jedi at once. If the jedi felt like losing the war, or if it didint lasted longer, they would either sneak out some masters and padawans or never really trusted the clones enough so that they could be wiped out at once. Also, Even if Count Dooku managed to kill all the council members and even Yoda, a premature lost of that war would rob him of killing the entire jedi order, so he needed the Jedi crippled, but not dead. And if you pay attention, Count Dooku was counting the jedi numbers all the way through... It was a calculated decision based on orders, not a civilized notion of honor. You just need to see what he did to his master and all those inocents on the Clone Wars. He was just a fancy Sith Politician.
@antaquar59288 жыл бұрын
Melanrick interesting, thank you for going beyond and giving me that well calculated analysis of the situation, it's just that if you judge dooku by the movies only you really don't see him as a really bad guy, more of a Jedi who got demoralized and abandoned what he thought was a corrupt Jedi order and senate, even his facial expressions and way of speaking doesn't seem evil but that is my opinion, clone wars dooku is a different dooku I had never heard of that explanation of the arena on episode 2 and it is interesting
@hanburgundy43178 жыл бұрын
Dooku wasn't evil; he had become disillusioned with the lazy Jedi and the corrupt Republic and helped create the Separatist movement to overthrow them - Sidious simply tempted him to the Dark Side by manipulating his hatred.
@dylanmorgan176 жыл бұрын
You are helping me remember what I used to love about Star Wars.
@Swift_LN8 жыл бұрын
Palps could have been using battle meditation the whole fight.
@MrRpinto19738 жыл бұрын
Sayonara Chainsaw xylophone cece 8
@filippppppos7 жыл бұрын
Like Bastila :P
@dnm89598 жыл бұрын
this make sense everything on episode 3, thx for the great analisys
@sortedevaras8 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin had the high ground?
@Bai_Su_Zhen8 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan just wouldn't attack. He was on the defensive for the whole duel xD
@samdiego19898 жыл бұрын
sortedevaras What I thought was ridiculous is that Anakin could have just ridden the droid a little further, and then jumped up next to Obi Wan instead of trying to jump over him. I think that would have been better. Obi Wan would still win, just a different way.
@Bai_Su_Zhen8 жыл бұрын
AgoodSAMaritan Obi-Wan would have to run or he would lose if Anakin didn't get cocky there. The reason he chose to jump from that exact point was that Obi-Wan told him not to try it. Anakin took it as if Obi-Wan indicated Anakin was not powerful enough to make the jump which pissed him off so he tried and threw the duel. But in fact, Anakin was already quite far stronger than Obi-Wan at that point. He was younger and faster and the knowledge of the dark side was giving him powers that Obi-Wan couldn't use.
@samdiego19898 жыл бұрын
Pechna ¨ That's kind of why it was lame. Anakin was really powerful and should have easily made that jump over Obi Wan. Look at the jump Obi Wan made in Episode One where he jumped up to that platform while they were fighting Darth Maul. Just seemed strange that Anakin didn't make it far enough over him to stay out of reach of the lightsaber. Seems like he would have anticipated Obi Wan slashing at him while he was flipping over him. I still love the movie and the scene that follows is my favorite part of the movie, where Obi Wan is upset and telling Anakin he was the chosen one and all that.
@Bai_Su_Zhen8 жыл бұрын
AgoodSAMaritan I actually like it as it is. Great movie.
@davifreyr21278 жыл бұрын
Wow. I hadn't thought of that, which is exactly why I love your channel so much! You always seem to be able to bring up interesting and elusive points on the matter. Great job with the video!
@samuelbattershell34138 жыл бұрын
I would say that it was a bit of both, Palpatin interfering and Dooku's superior skill
@seb27248 жыл бұрын
Good theory as a Star Wars fan knowing almost everything about Star Wars this is something I didn't think about, love this channel watch all the videos, keep going
@seb27248 жыл бұрын
Although I know almost everything, I would like to see a theory to why anakins hair didn't grow back as darth vader, I know the burns and stuff but he went under powerful and great treatment and didn't grow his his back even a bit
@starforcefighter8 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know whats the purpose of the baath treatment chamber if it heals you from the inside, but not the outside. (Cellular repair should work from the inside & outside, just like the healing chamber from the movie Stargate) All that technology in Star Wars universe with hyper drives, cybernetics enhancement, and etc. Anakin(Darth Vader) did not get a skin graft or a damn hair transplant-lol
@ottomanpapyrus93652 жыл бұрын
Honestly sure Vader don't give two shits about his hair at that point
@TheFlash-je3bl8 жыл бұрын
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@TheFlash-je3bl8 жыл бұрын
Jay Garrick Lol
@ser_odin8208 жыл бұрын
oh barrys where!
@PizzaHeister8 жыл бұрын
You got your ass handed to you by savitar lmao
@calebpayne10658 жыл бұрын
May the mass times acceleration be with you
@erdmax_7 жыл бұрын
So amazing to see this channel grow. More than deserved it.
@erdmax_7 жыл бұрын
Deserves*
@joshuavaldez69257 жыл бұрын
From a conversation I had with a old friend, he said Palpatine actually was draining dooku "force power" and was little by little disconnecting him from the force which helped anakin prevail. As we all know the one with the better connection to the force tends to win.
@Orto-jj2di2 жыл бұрын
I think he helped both of them. He helped dooku rid of kenobi while also weakening dooku. For palptaine from personal side its all just a game of chess. A game with himself to be accurate
@keyseronthewire6 жыл бұрын
Easily your best video. A lot of people overlook the subtle details in this final fight between Anakin & Kenobi vs Dooku. Right before something happens to him, it cuts to Palpatine performing gestures of sorts to disrupt Kebobi's force wall. Dooku couldn't penetrate his defenses and the battle was really about Anakin vs Dooku... Palpatine didn't want Kenobi interfering with his business again, so they made sure he was knocked out of the fight asap. For those who question his force wall, hard work beats talent when talent never works hard. One's dedication to the force is what strengthens them even more... That's Why he matched Anakin in a force push standoff. Obi-Wan is strong in the force, he was extremely dedicated, that's what it is really about, strengthening your own connection to the force itself.
@mitchellhayward64928 жыл бұрын
Love what you did with Palpatine in this vid.
@TimothyBukowskiApologist8 жыл бұрын
This is a BRILLIANT explanation!
@Posteritys8 жыл бұрын
His Channel is Growing Hella Fast Congrats
@JTRshuffleboy7 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE BEST!!! honestly much love to all the videos you make there amazing
@jakubogloza43767 жыл бұрын
Palpatine did make Obi Wan lose but did not influence Anakin
@Orto-jj2di5 жыл бұрын
He actually did when he made sure dooku was stronger than dooku in tbe dark side, plus he couldn't risk having dooku stay alive
@Tinman7104 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd like to think anakin whooped his ass without any help.
@planegurps71722 жыл бұрын
@@Orto-jj2di Dooku was stronger than Dooku?
@alankeyz18 жыл бұрын
Dooku is one of my favorite saber fighters. He's so silky smooth and gracefull.
@tengkualiff8 жыл бұрын
its like rock paper scissors between this three xD
Just because person B can beat person A, and Person C can beat person B, does not mean person C can beat person A in all cases.
@Hazaroth7 жыл бұрын
It actually makes perfect sense Anakin>Dooku>Obi Wan Anakin was a better fighter than obi wan he only lost because obi wan got lucky and had the higher ground
@Dantheman-bw8hv4 жыл бұрын
@@Hazaroth Darth Maul had the high ground and still lost
@brianhurley8908 жыл бұрын
great video, I knew that Palpatine had influenced the fight but did not realize exactly how until watching this
@Sarademyl8 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin didn't kill Count Dooku?
@tjnorth65318 жыл бұрын
DinoGames Good idea! I had this idea a while back.
@konac71918 жыл бұрын
"Kill him. Kill him now." "He should stand trial." "Do it." "No, he'll stand trial" "Do it." "No." "...Pretty please?"
@joshvswild9498 жыл бұрын
Dewit
@stationary_Boundary8 жыл бұрын
Bobo Squiggilywinks I can see Ian saying that just for the hell of it
@blandon935 жыл бұрын
he would be silent. Either Palpatine kill him in prison, or he escapes and get killed by Anakin/Obi-Wan/Windou.
@Evanmander8 жыл бұрын
Easy to listen to and good job editing. I love the theories that add to the story. Thank you.
@TheBohobemeister8 жыл бұрын
In Son of Dathomir, what would have happened if Dooku joined Maul?
@mariochaosspear8 жыл бұрын
Detective Bohobe Dooku would eventually betray and kill Maul. Remember, Maul killed Dooku's apprentice on Naboo.
@mariochaosspear8 жыл бұрын
tommysil I don't see how I'm wrong. Dooku must've hated Maul for killing Qui-Gon, his apprentice and the man he considered his son.
@joeprice9888 жыл бұрын
I like this explanation. It also adds weight to how strong Yoda is in the force when he pushes Sidious across the room at the end of the film.
@chrissytheconqueror70497 жыл бұрын
I do think Sidious used the force to help Dooku with Obi-Wan, but I'm pretty sure he then let Skywalker and Dooku fight for the title of Dark Lord, for he surely wanted the strongest apprentice possible...
@mws7552 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@slashbash64862 жыл бұрын
@@mws755 highly doubt it, since dooku consistently beats obi wan throughout the clone wars wars.
@planegurps71722 жыл бұрын
@@slashbash6486 Dooku consistently beat Anakin in TCW too, that's how they leveled up to approach his level
@killerboy991008 жыл бұрын
oh my god I've never heard of this theory but I absolutely love it, I love your videos man, keep up the great work
@joshuamoyer41418 жыл бұрын
I'm sure this video is going to go into way more datail than I can, but here are my possible reasons: A. Anakin got cocky against Obi Wan B. Anakin beat Dooku in part thanks to Obi-wan tiring him out C. Different styles are more effective against some styles than others, i.e. charmander beats bulbasaur beats squirtle type deal.
@joshuamoyer41418 жыл бұрын
Okay yeah I never noticed that
@PadawanAR8 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I really liked this one. And agree with your conclusions. Very clever indeed. :)
@Langford-Artist7 жыл бұрын
I always knew that Palpi had some thing to do with it because in the Clone Wars Obi wan was always on par with Dooku
@matthewmann89692 жыл бұрын
No Dooku was going easy on them most of the time he was able to tank force pushes from Anakin and effortlessly move out of the way of a force wave from Anakin And Obi Wan
@sunrider79567 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering why Obiwan got knocked out for years. Thanks for the answer!
@marquismanigault70418 жыл бұрын
damn that makes so much sense.
@lpg123388 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for uploading.
@pricillalopez74597 жыл бұрын
I still wonder, why didnt count Dooku Just stabbed Obi Wan when he held him in the air in that brief moment
@LoveThisRealWoman8 жыл бұрын
It does make some sense, Great video as always😁
@toshi50008 жыл бұрын
I never thought about it from this perspective. Good insight
@williamedward16668 жыл бұрын
Well, you yourself once noted that Obi-Wan wasn't actually that naturally talented of a Force-user, at least compared to some of the other Jedi. Maybe his Force shield just wasn't as strong?
@donnellebarfield39648 жыл бұрын
his lack of natural talent was a blessing that forced him to be defensive even though many jedi are better then obi won
@frankdees5077 жыл бұрын
Legate Alucard It was his way of compensating. It's the same way Vader being in the suit forced him to become more powerful in his strength of the force, since he no longer had the speed, and daring lightsaber maneuvers he'd had before the suit. Instead of fighting acrobatically, he simply became an unmovable force, even for groups of jedi.
@paulsamson33847 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that it's because Obi-Wan's combat style is meant to be used against heavy attackers like Anakin or Grevious. Count Dooku on the other hand is a balance thus making Obi-Wan's tactics ineffective.
@EfecanYSL7 жыл бұрын
i agree with paul here and also obi-wan having a lesser connection to the force made him weak against force powers because we also see him getting force pushed and choked many times in clone wars series while dooku couldn't do anything to anakin. what i don't understand is how did obi-wan stood his own against anakin's force push in mustafar there are so many plot holes it's clear they buffed obi-wan in the last fight.
@theoferro7 жыл бұрын
William Edward yeah Obi Wan was relatively weak in the Force, same with Luke, who was weak as well
@cruros90848 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid!
@olkarism8 жыл бұрын
yes i believe Sidious very powerful even enough to change the shift of a duel or battle
@Stephhhhyyy8 жыл бұрын
great video as always !!
@Ayatron348 жыл бұрын
Sideous boosting Anakin defeats the point of the test and therefore the whole scene. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
@bulllea8 жыл бұрын
he said that boosting occur AFTER anakin start using his anger . and this is the purpose of the whole test .
@Ayatron348 жыл бұрын
Bull Lea The purpose was to see if Anakin was greater than Dooku. Sideous didn't want an angry weakling. Boosting Anakin at any point would be an admission that Anakin is weaker.
@keeganmh1238 жыл бұрын
I love and watch all your videos keep up the good work
@darthdestroyer118 жыл бұрын
When is what if anakin turned obi wan to the dark side part 2
@Vccine7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the force shield. I always wondered why force users don't just constantly force push/lightning/choke one another. Now it makes sense.
@SirKnobofCheese8 жыл бұрын
The reason obi wan lost was because the script said so.
@leif39258 жыл бұрын
Excellent deduction!
@megaforce33578 жыл бұрын
What if rebels failed to destroy deathstar?
@joethahobo8 жыл бұрын
Yavin would be destroyed along with a majority of the rebels. therefore the empire last much much longer
@tombateman18378 жыл бұрын
then they would be fucked
@Battleguild8 жыл бұрын
The empire would've been capable of thwarting the Thrawn Invasion with the power of the Death Star, unlike the current result which was a crippled New Republic, which was almost too weak to defend themselves. EU only of course.
@lyndonbekhuis87148 жыл бұрын
Nice thanks for that one.. was one my big questions
@cliffsta873377 жыл бұрын
Palp cheated for sure.
@IHopegood3 жыл бұрын
0:14 Anakin already has his lightsaber in his hand. He was definitely ready to fight the moment he saw Dooku.
@WalterLiddy8 жыл бұрын
Answer: Because that's what the plot required. End of.
@Mr335007 жыл бұрын
Answer: Because Dooku is better. ABC logic is faulty as fuck. "Joker beat Batman, Batman beat Superman, Superman beat Darkseid, therefore Joker beats Superman and Darkseid."
@kevinverzee88738 жыл бұрын
Cool Video man!
@MusicByTomas8 жыл бұрын
do why Anakin lost to dooku in episode 2
@whereisanon87498 жыл бұрын
Tomás Jonsson because he was a padawan fighting against a ex jedimaster sithlord ....
@NiightDJ7 жыл бұрын
Fit Kísto LOL
@bobolobo94876 жыл бұрын
Too much sand, so anakin was weakened
@Gdogvolt8 жыл бұрын
Hi, I love your channel, and you are currently my favorite youtuber. I hope that you have a good day too. :)
@FromRussiaWithLuv0078 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF.... Luke had run away from home to join the empire and become a Stormtrooper?
@TheShiumy8 жыл бұрын
this is a very interesting video. I've never thought about Palpatine influencing the duel. In my opion, anakin because you can't beat a sith without using the dark side and leting your emotion flow. (ex : obi wan was furious about the death of Jinn, and when luke beat dark vador, he was furious too)
@joee958 жыл бұрын
did palpatine cause force constapation on mace at 2:00
@Jde-vv3cu5 жыл бұрын
Lol Palpatine whispered ‘yeet’ before dooku threw Obi Wan across the room
@chrishall25948 жыл бұрын
This is so wrong. Dooku was far more experienced and a little more powerful than both. Sidious didn't need to interfere, those were obviously just silly grunts of faked expression for the good guys. As you see he was able to force push both anakin and obi wan. In the end it was Anakin's use of the dark side and his anger that let him win, as he has the potential to be the more powerful, yet is still young. Also, Obi Wan's experience and anakin's cockiness are what caused the outcome of their duel.
@damienrumeau13998 жыл бұрын
AWESOME EXPLAINATION
@alucardtepes23738 жыл бұрын
what if the sith pure bloods escaped Darth Bane's thought bomb and returned after the fall of the emperor and Darth Vader
@Athkore8 жыл бұрын
I actually really like this theory, makes everything much clearer as to why Obi-Wan beats Anakin when he is much more powerful (That along with the Obi Wan having a deeper connection to the force during that final battle and working as a part of it) along with how Palpy making Anakin stronger while fighting Duku leading to his reaction at being betrayed at 04:08 and 04:10
@StarTrooper8 жыл бұрын
Lucas said Anakin is the strongest in the Force end of story! Anakin saved Obi 10 times remember!
@CodyHeldreth8 жыл бұрын
Nine times! That business on Cato Neimoidia doesn't count...
@StarTrooper8 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@costbart8 жыл бұрын
skill over potential.
@byteresistor8 жыл бұрын
Actually according to Lucas it was Luke. Anakin became a crippled half machine before he reached his full potential.
@thepikarivera77068 жыл бұрын
Look at how the fight in Mustafar went. Obi Wan was smarter. Brains over brawns.
@DolkkarToyznstuff7 жыл бұрын
Great video and I can definitely see what you're taking about here. Makes sense to me anyway.
@queezerrr8 жыл бұрын
What if Anakin saved Shmi from dying in Attack if the Clones??
@SuperMSL8 жыл бұрын
The zoom ins on Sidious and the sound effect are hilarious to me for some reason. XD
@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.41347 жыл бұрын
this has got palpatine written all over this sh*t here trust me lol
@adamleon91288 жыл бұрын
i love this channel so much
@cubearts18 жыл бұрын
what if both qui gon jinn and Obi wan were killed during the Phantom menace?
@elijahstiles30128 жыл бұрын
The Ridiculous Otaku maul was actually sent by Sidious to kill the Queen and retrieve Anakin
@hanburgundy43178 жыл бұрын
Sidious had no plans to train Anakin until it was brought to his attention when Qui-Gon found him and brought him before the Jedi Council. Maul was meant to kill the Jedi one by one and was Sidious' true apprentice, but when he lost in hubris to Kenobi, Sidious sought a replacement and Anakin was perfect.
@arbhall75728 жыл бұрын
He didnt replace Maul with Anakin though, he replaced him with Dooku. Gave him a Darth title and everything. Darth Tyrannus.
@hanburgundy43178 жыл бұрын
Arbhall McDougall Dooku was only a means to an end; Sidious never considered him a true apprentice - he was expendable and a tool to use.
@arbhall75728 жыл бұрын
War Machine After the rule of two came out, if you were not sith, you did not get the title Darth. It was different than the Jedi handing out the title Master all over the place, it meant something. He was a Sith, but you are right, he was very likely expendable, but he was still a Sith. True Sith died out thousands of years before the movies events. True Sith were a species, and they gone. Both from the galaxy of star wars and star wars canon. Since all that is just legends now. But in current canon, Darth Tyrannus/ Count Dooku, was a Sith lord.
@RobbieRobertson1207 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why the camera was focusing on Palpatine during the duel when he was strapped to the chair, but I failed to notice that it solely focused on him only when Dooku was about to attack Obi-Wan with a Force ability as well as after Obi-Wan was knocked unconscious when he shifted his gaze from Obi-Wan back to Dooku and Anakin. Another thing I noticed was that when Sidious shifted his gaze back to Dooku and Anakin his face muscles relaxed, whereas when the camera focused on him beforehand his face was tensed up in concentration. This implies that his manipulation of the duel was only in regards to Obi-Wan and him shouting "Get" was a signal to Dooku saying "Get him! His shield's down!"
@allounrafik50678 жыл бұрын
Dooku is much more powerful than Obi wan in the force, and the makashi is well suited for fighting Soresu, in fact Dooku was one of the few who could be a real threat to Obi Wan, and i absolutely disagree with this way of guessing power levels, like 1 beats 2 and 3 beats 1 so 3 beats 2 ... this isnt taking in account the specialisation and affinities of characters toward each other fighting style, Obi wan shield of force was broken many times by lesser users of the force than Dooku, Darth maul did it Assaj too during the clone wars and it is stated clearly than one of Soresu problems is its weakness to force based attacks, because the user focuses too much on the defensive techniques with his lightsaber, i think rather that Sidious asked Dooku to lure anakin to the dark side and not fight him at 100% because in the clone wars serie Dooku bested anakin many many times, he didnt even use force lightning on him in this duel, which is a proof that the mission assigned to dooku wasnt to kill Anakin, but gain him as a pawn for future plans (like they did for assaj or savage opress) ! and the surprise in the face of Dooku in the end isnt because he was not excpecting Palpatine to execute him for failure (this is the sith ways after all) but his understanding that luring Anakin to the dark side during the duel while not fighting him at 100% was the way that planned palpatine to kill him ...
@ZaleraArkanus6668 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of few times it actually comes down to style. Soresu is great for wearing down aggressive fighters, but because Makashi isnt an aggressive style, Obi-wan was forced to a bit more aggressive himself, which I feel he is a little less adept at.
@M.W.K69968 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Dooku was the greatest swordsman in the Star Wars universe, after Palpatine.
@Excalibur21128 жыл бұрын
After Palpatine and Yoda...In the novels I think he was said to have bested Windu even, only Yoda and Dooku could best Windu in a lightsaber duel.
@M.W.K69968 жыл бұрын
excalibur2112 That makes sense. But let's not forget that Dooku could stand up to Yoda.
@BoogerLeader8 жыл бұрын
Windu and Dooku fought to stalemates, he never beat Windu, the same with Yoda. However, Windu never used his form to its fullest when dueling since it required him to turn dark to use it, and that wasn't something he did unless it was required, and a normal duel with friends wouldn't require that. Also, Windu could also use the opponent's dark emotions against them and would empower him, which is how he beat Palpatine. People give Dooku too much credit. Qui Gon also fought Dooku to a stand-still.
@Mr335007 жыл бұрын
+BoogerLeader On the contrary people give Dooku too little credit. Dooku and Windu fought to a standstill so it could be reasonably inferred that they were equal in sword fighting, since it was just a friendly duel neither of them would go full out.
@FilthyTrot6 жыл бұрын
BoogerLeader No. Both Yoda and Count Dooku defeated Mace Windu, in Jedi sparring sessions.
@klerta8 жыл бұрын
Good video like always
@gn00158 жыл бұрын
The fight was rigged. The establishment Sith favored Anakin making it easier for him to win. It's true, believe me.
@jedicomedy4 жыл бұрын
It's not true. You're not giving credit where credit is due to Anakin's skills.
@gn00154 жыл бұрын
@@jedicomedy Call me the next time you're having a party. Gotta be a fun one.
@jedicomedy4 жыл бұрын
@@gn0015 Yeah, it'll be fun until you show up.
@thewarlock98465 жыл бұрын
OK that's interesting! Nice video
@joeneauxvieve62038 жыл бұрын
What if only Luke or only Leia was born?
@Slim_Pyro7 жыл бұрын
Star Wars Fan Girl if leia was born she would be trained by Obi Wan if Luke Obi Wan would train him to ig
@floris-jandejong69258 жыл бұрын
Almost died of laughing when Palpatine came in the picture 😂
@jlorraine51238 жыл бұрын
Who is exited for rouge one!!!!! 😜👍
@fantasyfictionfandom8148 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Eggers I live in England so we get it on this 15th.
@jlorraine51238 жыл бұрын
Lucky
@calebpayne10658 жыл бұрын
Going today :)
@vjfjgfjhfgh34728 жыл бұрын
learn how to spell you dumb blonde
@Harukakanata948 жыл бұрын
You always start a sentence with a capital letter. And you forgot the comma, between "spell" and "you" ;P
@ArikGST7 жыл бұрын
There is actually an explanation given in one of the comics (don`t ask me which one xD). Obi-Wan`s saber defense had reached a level were it was practically unpenetrable. However, this came at a cost. Due to him focusing so much on defending against every possible attack that his enemy could make with the lightsaber he became vulnerable to physical strikes like punches and kicks and he also became vulnerable to force attacks. We see that several times in Star Wars Clone Wars. As far as I can remember he was never defeated by the sword in Clone Wars, his defeats came at the force abilities of his enemies. Asajj Ventress and Maul both managed to land force based attacks on Kenobi but they were unable to defeat him with the sword. While the force barrier is "passive" it still takes some concentration to keep it running, and Kenobi chose to concentrate on something else instead. He wasn`t weak in the force, he was actually quite powerful, but he did not employ the passive force wall because it would take away from his defensive skills with the sword.
@allosaurusrca83648 жыл бұрын
Cuz then the story would be ruined
@barryday3657 жыл бұрын
I've never really thought about the concept of a "force shield" like that, but I've always assumed something along those lines. I just figured that Obi-Wan's concentration was broken, and that's why he was susceptible to the force pushes. If you're distracted, you can't counter moves in martial arts; so would it have been the same with the mental battles going on that we can't see. For instance, look at when Obi-Wan and Darth Vader both tried to force push each other on Mustafar. They were so focused and in their "empty mind" state (a martial arts term, for those who don't know what that means) that they were able to match each other perfectly, and their powers just locked into stalemate. That's what I've always assumed it was. Concentration. The force shield idea seems to match up with that perfectly. Thanks for giving me the term, Star Wars Theory!
@autotechxbox1638 жыл бұрын
Well, Palpatine/Sidious is a sleazeball manipulator who managed to destroy the republic.
@mrmusicfanatic18 жыл бұрын
And founded an empire that spread all the way across the galaxy