WHY DID THE ENGINES BREAK AWAY FROM THE TRAIN? | Jason Asselin

Thanks to a friend for telling me about Escanaba & Lake Superior train coming south I was able get a good spot in Iron Mountain, MI by the train depot. After filming it pass I thought I would catch it once more but boy was I surprised.. Why did they disconnect from the train? Boy was that a wild goose chase or what?
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[@yahdoober]

Love that pacing/chasing you did of 502! Nice!

[@tamarackmi9195]

Lost my my mate that enjoyed your channel...Much Love Jason and Family❤Your a treasure of yooperness❤👍🥰

[@tamarackmi9195]

Armas passed away suddenly of heart failure on 9/28. We had 12 great years together. Enjoy each day with those you Love

[@jasonasselin]

Sorry to hear that..

[@bryanleslie4409]

I just found out where Iron Mountain is at inMichigan. Dont worry about a longer video rhan planned its nice watching.

[@jeroldcrawford3431]

Jason - thanks for the nice video. It was a view of Iron Mountain which I had never seen. I was trying to locate it in a Michigan railroad map. I am amazed at the amount of rail lines that have been abandoned in the Upper Peninsula. I am from Iowa although I live in Tampa Bay Florida. Iowa has lost about 80 percent of its rail lines since 1960. Used to be no place farther than 7 miles from a rail lin. Now you go miles and miles through county after county with no rail service. Really short-sighted and sad. I love grade crossing signals. I restore wig-wag signals and have a number of them in my yard in a Tampa suburb. Hillsborough zoning looks at them as lawn ornaments. The bells are all on cutoffs. It is interesting to me that Michigan law requires the "Stop on Red Signal" signs that have disappeared from the rest of the country. The bell that you and several listeners commented on (the one that sounds like an alarm clock), was from the Western Rail Road Supply (WRRS) Company which was bought out by another company to form Western Cullin Hayes. I do not know its actual name, but it was colloquially know as the "Tiny" bell. It does indeed sound like an alarm clock - tinny and fast. Would love to get a hold of one from a collector. As to all the people who felt so inclined to make negative comments. Can you tell me where YOUR railroad videos are at. I would love to view them for content and comment. There is such a thing as a "Close Window" button. Try using that instead of dissing someone else's work if you don't like it. Jerold in Citrus Park, Florida

[@larry4107]

Thanks, Jason. Really enjoyed your video

[@calvinj5558]

One of those 02 engines is almost always stopped at the Channing siding when I go by for work in the morning

[@drummachine434]

There are so many cool old crossing signals in that town! I would love to railfan there

[@richardmcavoy6413]

This video reminds me of a saying that goes something like, "success is when luck and preparation meet."

[@wesw9586]

Awesome pacing. Thanks for taking the time to share!

[@jasonasselin]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@feliciasmith3808]

Hi Jason Asselin, Have been away for afew months and have not got the chance to see your videos & I was in the hospital from a fall in my house! I was doing some laundry and was putting the clean clothes away & walked up the stairs & slipped and fell all the way down the stairs & broke my left leg and snapped two bones in my right arm and they had to put some pins inside my arm & was at the hospital for 35 days and now I'm home and taking it easy!!

[@jasonasselin]

Damn! Hope you are feeling better!

[@feliciasmith3808]

@Jason Asselin, Thank you for the nice comment & I'm doing okay and thank you so much...

[@royreynolds108]

No402 was not working because the MU hoses between the locos were not connected between them. If they had stopped with the train to check the cars, the train would have been hanging out over several crossings.

[@jasonasselin]

Both disconnected from the entire train, then they broke from each other. The cord is in plain site as the single passed by, if they were connecting them it would not even be there to see. You must not watch many of my videos, they don't care about blocking.. lol

[@martinross5521]

Thank you Jason, another great video of action on the ELS. Love the parallel run beside the engine

[@jasonasselin]

Thanks again!

[@greglucas1497]

J.Looks like a check run. Maybe a drop off.Last two cars are what you mentioned.I agree.

[@greglucas1497]

No room in spur.

[@limnos99]

Looks like old SD40's or SD60's. Amazing how much older motive power still seeing use on lesser lines. Love it! Engines from when I was a kid still in use...well, don't see many GP's though, would to see an old GP9 running down the track, but many old switchers in use, swore I saw an NW2 one day in use.

[@davenitsch6094]

Great video Jason, Thanks!

[@WJack97224]

I like the loud alarm signals as it helps those who are blind to know to stop for the train passing.

[@drummachine434]

Doesn't sound very safe to have a blind person drive a car :P

[@WJack97224]

@@drummachine434, It was intended to be humorous.

[@drummachine434]

@@WJack97224 oh whoops

[@johnwinter8273]

Nice pace video as you drove along the light engine. 👍

[@jefftherailroadenthusiast8889]

I love that old station and the location.

[@outlawriderandoubletrouble]

I like that old Semaphore signal.

[@ronaldhass8413]

The sound of the old bell 🔔 was awesome 👌

[@AMPProductionsVideo]

That is cool!

[@stephaneduguay7267]

That bell sounds funny but love it

[@mikegoetz6477]

Hi Jason, just another great video from you.....thanks! I've been to Pembine and Iron Mountain and as far as I'm concerned that is God's country up there. very pretty.

[@jason-ld4mg]

prob cut loose of the cars to make sure the track was passable b4 risking derailing a whole train

[@jasonasselin]

LMAO.. LOL

[@lawrencewheeler8868]

Cool semaphore at the station!

[@williambryant5946]

Very, very awesome video! 👍

[@jasonasselin]

Thank you very much!

[@davrober48]

Hey you can see the bank from here . Used to go with my mom to this depot and pick up Gram . It was a steam engine pulling it. Yeah Im kinda getting up there . Milwaukee Road. C&NW was farther down Stephenson now a store or something and those tracks are gone . Got lots of real old picks though.

[@lovepugs1949]

Jason I am just a big fan of your KZbin videos because I love trains.🚂

[@davrober48]

Nother good one Jason .

[@wsorfan-co1rq]

ex- conrail unit. nice!

[@dannyhonn973]

Love the Iron Mountain station. Complete with semaphores! Make a great place for a local RR museum with a layout! Ive heard professional railroaders call em FRED.

[@victorialamport-brown8699]

I love your videos Jason!

[@jamesvenable1948]

Great video interesting too

[@elizabethdowney2446]

First time watching... awesome video thank you!

[@mile290productions3]

Welcome!

[@elizabethdowney2446]

@@mile290productions3 thank you. I enjoy learning about trains. They are quite interesting though my ignorance about them is apparent....but I want to learn more about them.

[@mile290productions3]

@@elizabethdowney2446 you're very welcome! The railfanner group welcomes you.

[@jasonasselin]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@danbelzile9399]

Another cool video

[@icebiker3]

Never noticed that old station signal before you pointed it out.

[@dwightmagnuson4298]

You should carry a RR frequency radio,

[@williamflowers7927]

I love this video💖💖💖💖💕

[@EMTRailfan]

I'd venture to guess that they split the power so they could "leap-frog" the pick up into the cut on the siding. But, they could have done the same at the customer spur with both locos and shoved back to the train. My question is, why did they run up and return empty handed when a phone call from dispatch, etc. should have been made to save a wasted trip?

[@ramtuff2007]

good train video

[@lloydrobinson7081]

not a bad video keep them coming

[@NMjack2000]

Is that an old Soo Line Depot? The Signal that is at the depot is a train order board signal. And they would always be left at the stop position until the train dispatcher instructed it to be cleared. I worked as a Train Order Clerk many years ago for Santa Fe Railway.

[@user-cu9kz5ec8o]

What a weirdly operated railroad

[@loosemoose9799]

The track looks like it is in serious need of maintenance.

[@barrylonyai1530]

HI Jason great video as always that was cool you and the locomotive cruising along on a nice fall day . that depot does not look to be that old it looks like from the outside it is holding up very well the very nice and well built brick buildings normally survive for a very very long time just like brick houses factories and other businesses to . from long long ago great construction workers to build them. it is a shame about with the brick and wood depots and out of service passenger train stations just age not very well and get vandalized and broken in to and just over time get bulldozed and gone for ever and it is nice when mother nature takes back the land to green trees green grass and weeds and the wildlife come back . stay safe out there .

[@colinsmith4453]

Always enjoyable Jason , another cool video. From your west coast railfan, happy july 4th

[@jasonasselin]

Thanks 👍

[@howardburnham4249]

I love Trains

[@karensingh2020]

shunting

[@naturefunwjasown4267]

Hey Jason, Aye I'm Jason too cheers!

[@Rabid_Wookie]

When you first see the train, was the use of the train horn prohibited in the area? Seemed odd to see the train going across the intersections without blowing the horns.

[@williambryant5946]

Iron mountain is no horn zone. Then the area where he was next was East Kingsford (where he lives) where they use the horn. The two areas run together though.

[@jasonasselin]

Iron Mountain is a no train horn zone. A few of my previous videos talk about that.

[@richardpowell7013]

If that's a "NO HORN ZONE" I personally think there should be the crossing gates that come down.

[@howardburnham4249]

Those Tracks are to good.

[@robertgift]

Fun video. Thank you. Wow! Fast bell! Also please show the mee-mool lights *(o)T(o)* operating.

[@walterlangston4253]

that is a cool sounding bell and A long short train lol

[@fullscale4me]

My guess: train was too long to leave it between State Street and East Breen Avenue. Engine 402 was left behind on the rest of the train to keep the air up on that medium long train. Otherwise departure would be delayed by pumping up the air. Second your idea of the load not ready @ Alter Metal.

[@jasonasselin]

Both were disconnected from the train.

[@willkosmider2027]

Forward reporting end of train device. That is its correct name, from Will the troll, down below near the Port Huron international railroad tunnel.

[@KDubielak]

Maybe he uncoupled his train for some reason and that horn almost scared the daylights out of me

[@billmorris2613]

Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 21 Oct 20.

[@jasonasselin]

Morning!

[@TickledFunnyBone]

Nice video. I call it fred also. Maybe so long fred or see ya later fred, maybe hey fred so on and so forth. :-)

[@marykrauthamel7559]

FRED stands for "flashing rear end device" . It is supposed to operate during times of limited visibility otherwise a bright red flag may do.

[@martinpattison1567]

I think the 502 went ahead to check the line and to see if it was safe to go on. I have never seen a track as bad as that. You just had to look at the end wagons (Cars) and the way they wobbled. Martin. (Thailand)

[@jasonasselin]

Thailand? Wow! Actually I believe they were checking to see if the cars were ready at the metal yard. I just made a video recently again where they did it.

[@cn7835656]

Yeah that was weird that the lead locomotive cut away from the other locomotive to go and see if that gondola was loaded but i guess not i have seen that type of scenario before with CN

[@williamkaczmarek3996]

Did ELS paint 502? Kinda looked like new paint. I think I saw this guy coming down from Channing yesterday when I had to run up to the cabin.

[@cppat1]

We’ve always called it Fred.

[@KDubielak]

Looks like Blue BNSF BNSF gp60 from the BNSF yard in Birmingham Alabama

[@robertpsieving4401]

Love the depot. I collect photos of depots. My collection is all photos i have taken myself.. That bell was annoying

[@Silvergt333]

Like your videos! Need to report temperatures especially in the winter! How far away from you is iron mountain, michgan

[@VickyGeagan]

He was in Iron mountain in this video.

[@jasonasselin]

Right? lol

[@beercommercial1]

I had a sick wind-up alarm clock that sounded like those crossing bells. Are they of the same era as the manual Semaphore signals?

[@a-lineaficionado1000]

Ooooo teardrop?

[@CSXEK]

No raco mini bell

[@josephcarroll2824]

Was that double Main at one time? I saw the ties next to the main spaced with no rails.

[@Dborn2]

Hey there Jason...been following abit from Columbus oh. Love your vids..my ? on this video is about the depot, never noticed being boarded up ! Had anyone tried to contact the rr about restoring it ? It does seem to be in a perfect spot....👍

[@jasonasselin]

Not sure. Its been like this as long as I remember since 2000.

[@coryhoover01]

Do they ever go left at the Y at about the 13 minute mark? If so where does it go?

[@tomdickinson8450]

It sounds like a crossing bell on steroids.

[@peterharband326]

Nice video buddy.

[@jasonasselin]

Thanks 👍

[@EricSmith-ve7qi]

Nice video Jason!! I agree with you that car wasnt ready to b switched out!! Would love to see inside that station!! Thanks for all that you do for us!!

[@petersmith4455]

hi jason, greetings from england, any sign of the emd f7 at all in the last few months, ? great video as usual,

[@jasonasselin]

Not much.. I think they are using it up north on some tracks better designed for it that the SD40's.

[@sheilasembly-crum8447]

I "liked" and "subscribed"!

[@robertdavies5501]

Nah It's a BOG battery operated guard👏👏👏

[@JeremiahTrane]

Wonder if they even know it came apart?? ha ha ha ha lol, that's how bright they are sometimes lol

[@markevan1]

Well, since he got off the engine and decoupled it.... I would say yes. That's how bright you are sometimes.

[@csrrjefflloyd6496]

I'd like to see the F model. Jason, you've probably already explained what's going on with it but I missed it. Could you repeat please?

[@hobbyrob313]

Those rails over there, (sorry to say it) what are they awfully bad! you better be on a roller coaster! Friendly greetings from The Netherlands! Rob

[@carldombek]

Sorry, Rob. Tried to offer an informed, cogent, scientifically valid explanation but some troll accused me of being stupid (which he could not possibly know), so I deleted my explaination rather than subject myself to abuse.

[@hobbyrob313]

@@carldombek Hallo Carl Dombek I don't quite understand the story but I can take a lot, I'm used to a lot. what I mean above in my comment was seriously meant! ( And definitely not ugly after Jason Asselin means ) Here in the Netherlands we don't have such bad rails, that just doesn't happen here. then they would really have long been rejected and gone. OR? they would really have long rejected and scrapped off. (I hope Google translates it clearly !?) Healthy and Friendly Greetings from Rotterdam! Rob

[@carldombek]

@@hobbyrob313 Thanks for that. We have our share of klootzaks (like Louis) in the U.S. as well, of course. What I said was a lot of the waviness you see in the video isn't really the rails; it's distortion caused by perhaps three things. First, using a long telephoto lens causes distortion. Second, he appears to be shooting through his car's windscreen, and third, there is possible distortion from heat waves. Of course, these are not high-speed rails. They're freight rails and don't have to be quite as even as high-speed but they're not as bad as they appear in the video.

[@daveyboy_]

What was cool is the old light signal at the station

[@garysprandel1817]

Train order signal. In the past trains in unsignaled territory would operate over a section by train orders and the operator at the depot would indicate if there were orders by setting the signal. Red would indicate the train was to stop and the crew would go in read the orders and sign off they understood them. A yellow would indicate there were orders but the crew would grab them on the fly and a green would indicate no orders to be picked up.

[@VickyGeagan]

Fred (Flashing Rear-End Device) breaking and sensing unit.

[@billmorris2613]

Vicky Geagan Nope. It stood for “F***ing Ridiculous Electronic Devise.”

[@steelthfighter]

in the 80's and 90's there was no good means of monitoring a train. in the early 90's a device was designed to replace the caboose that could control the train from the rear the same as a caboose. the Flashing Red Emergency Device (fred) was designed to be just that. it could be controlled from the front of the train and dispatch. however at the time, not many railroads had a system in place to use those devices, so only the big 5 railroads at the time used them. the FRA rule book states that "any train in operation, occupying, or standing on any section of track to have traffic of more than one (1) train per day must have a indicator at the end of it for safety." this can be a red flag, a caboose, or a FRED/EOT

[@dennisjeffs4239]

Jason, the engines didn't "breakaway" at all, they were uncoupled in the normal manner!!

[@ohgary]

What are the orange gondolas with the high ends? Pulp wood?

[@thomasboese3793]

Yes, the orange gondolas carry pulpwood.

[@davrober48]

I think the old movie house is around behind the depot if the old brain cells remember.

[@fairwayrailproductions3239]

Terrible crossing bell lol

[@j.sterling9167]

Is that a RR crossing or an alarm clock?

[@johnparker7874]

No whistle zone, and the crossings don’t have gates. That is a recipe for disaster.

[@JimHerbertOutdoors]

Gates were made for idiots who cant understand flashing red lights, bells, or yield signs.

[@duayneclarke8366]

Chilling in the car with the heat on hmm.

[@MeigsCountyRR]

I didn't catch it the first time. But at 16:50 is the battery change after I went back and watched it again.

[@hg60justice]

pretty sketchy looking track there. just a little drive along check.

[@markiusgalfordii9248]

Sounds like my school's lunch Bell over and over

[@tucobenedicto109]

Fred is red!

[@TheLocutus70]

They just wanted you to follow them, Jason.

[@stanleepatterson95]

Its called splitting the power. You cut your motors apart during switching when you have to have power on both ends of a cut. Or to pull train past or cause you have some cars to pick up on a track that switch faces the wrong way.

[@jasonasselin]

Yet it was an exercise because nothing happened..

[@billmorris2613]

We called them Fred too on the railroad. Do you know what Fred stands for?

[@RonLauzon]

Flashing Rear End Device

[@billmorris2613]

Ron Lauzon Nope. It stood for “F***ing Ridiculous Electronic Devise.”

[@RonLauzon]

@@billmorris2613 From my friends who worked on the railroad, I understood that your term got you written up.

[@billmorris2613]

Ron Lauzon It was the most common wording for it. The only way someone would have been called down for calling it that would be if it went out over a radio. It cost us a brakeman and the caboose when they started using FRED. So you should be able to understand our dislike for FRED.

[@saintswillwin1013]

ELS 502 was built 1/1980 as UP 3693; became SLRG 202 (San Luis and Rio Grande Railroad), became ILSX 202 (Independent Locomotive Service), renumbered ILSX 1344. rrpicturearchives.net/LocoPicture.aspx?id=240849 ELS 402 was built 9/1969 as PC 7772 (Penn Central), became CR 7772 (Conrail). rrpicturearchives.net/LocoPicture.aspx?id=103777

[@kittty2005]

What happened to the clip of the 2 white covered hoppers,402 was disconnected and the hoppers were still there then the next instant both were reattached and on the move? I understand the miracle of editing ,but why?

[@jasonasselin]

Many reasons like wind noise, camera wasn't steady or I just wasn't filming.

[@jeremyvehring9259]

Did you catch that East Kingsford Public Works truck? I wonder what it's used for? Yes, allot of questions with this one.

[@kennyirish5021]

It's A hydro flush truck for cleaning sewer mains and maybe laterals which are what the city collects waste water from each house