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Why Didn’t Mace Windu Attack or Kill Dooku on Geonosis in Episode 2? (Legends)

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The Non-Canon Expert explains Mace Windu's thoughts during his initial confrontation with Count Dooku just prior to the Battle of Geonosis in Episode 2: Attack of the Clones, looking first at how Mace's thinking aligned with the general view of the Jedi Order and High Council regarding the former Jedi, and then looking at the particular perspective of Mace as the Jedi Master confronted Dooku.
This is a Legends story for Jedi Master Mace Windu, Dooku, and the events of Episode 2: Attack of the Clones with information found within a number of Legends sources, but particularly "Star Wars: Shatterpoint: A Clone Wars Novel," "Star Wars: Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force," and "Star Wars: Darth Plagueis." I hope that you enjoy it!
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@Mentaljedi
@Mentaljedi 4 жыл бұрын
Problem was, Mace didn't have anybody to tell him to "dew it!"
@717jeezy
@717jeezy 4 жыл бұрын
Anytime a prisoner on def row gets executed , the moment right before the executioner pulls the trigger , the judge or whoever tells them " DEW IT " 😂😂
@emtgamer5712
@emtgamer5712 4 жыл бұрын
You made my day
@luCid.the.book.
@luCid.the.book. 4 жыл бұрын
Lol'd too hard
@phantomsidious2934
@phantomsidious2934 4 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu still thought of Dooku as a honourable person who was once a Jedi, it's not the Jedi way to just attack or kill Dooku, perhaps mace thought there was a chance to reason with him and convince him to stop this crusade he was on? but Despite joining the separatists and splitting the republic in two Windu clearly has a great respect for count dooku, they were friends and fought together in many missions through the years. Mace also doesn't believe that Dooku has changed all that much, 'he couldn't assassinate anyone it's not his character".
@user-ti2rg2mq6z
@user-ti2rg2mq6z 4 жыл бұрын
Who else thinks everything past episode six should be "Legends" instead? 😂
4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact,he regretted didn't kill him later.
@fridaynightnicktoons6885
@fridaynightnicktoons6885 4 жыл бұрын
Plus hed just make dooku a martyr
@phantomsidious2934
@phantomsidious2934 4 жыл бұрын
@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 indeed good point
@shanebeam1536
@shanebeam1536 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dahuterschuter
@dahuterschuter 4 жыл бұрын
Dooku is the most criminally underused character in all of Star Wars. He himself is unique and interesting yet barely gets any screentime, plus played by a classic actor.
@eurosensazion
@eurosensazion 4 жыл бұрын
Truly, I liked him in the prequels with the great Mr. Lee and even in Clone Wars animated he stood out and was well done.
@user-ey4ut9uc8w
@user-ey4ut9uc8w 4 жыл бұрын
And Darth maul, basically anybody besides Vader gets tossed away when they could’ve simply given the character more depth which would’ve in turn even had them sell more toys which is all they really care about. Essentially, a lose/lose situation for both the people that wanted to see them and for the sales lmao. Star Wars films are the greatest and worst things at the same time 🤦🏽‍♂️
@codycollects3534
@codycollects3534 4 жыл бұрын
He was like Snoke, they killed him off and didn't give him enough screentime
@LordFerbombi
@LordFerbombi 4 жыл бұрын
Haydn Po Dooku in this instance would me more than a criminal lmao use your head you moron
@nstice1
@nstice1 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, the more I read about him the more he becomes a fascinating character in Star Wars universe. The fact that he’s all aristocratic and has all of these codes of conduct and fighting makes him truly unique
@h.plovecat4307
@h.plovecat4307 4 жыл бұрын
Mace had just come off a Hammer Dracula binge and was too big a fan of Lee to kill him.
@EchthelionII
@EchthelionII 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Hammer made lots of great horror movies and Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing were in most of them, and usually together, my favorite film duo.
@lamaahruloma4270
@lamaahruloma4270 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Lovecraft?
@AAJillSandwich
@AAJillSandwich 4 жыл бұрын
He defends Dooku in the beginning of "Attack Of The Clones", shortly after the attempt to blow up Padme. Windu even seems to take offense at the suggestion that Dooku could be behind the attacks because of Dookus former Jedi honor.
@IndianaJoe0321
@IndianaJoe0321 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Orto-jj2di
@Orto-jj2di 4 жыл бұрын
So you mean if one is a jedi mace would hesitate a bit.
@copitodenieve8581
@copitodenieve8581 4 жыл бұрын
@@Orto-jj2di depends on the jedi. Windu wouldnt have reacted the same way with Anakin.
@Orto-jj2di
@Orto-jj2di 4 жыл бұрын
@@copitodenieve8581 anakin was arepublic hero just like mace. Plus mace respected his power and anakin did too. So nope
@Orto-jj2di
@Orto-jj2di 4 жыл бұрын
@Cody Allen banishing into exile is one thing. But to say she/he lied to you, to turn from her is going too far. Council never listened to the likes of dooku qui gon anakin and now even ahsoka
@macwade2755
@macwade2755 4 жыл бұрын
I always assumed that it was because Mace and Dooku were old friends when Dooku was still a Jedi.
@Derbii07
@Derbii07 4 жыл бұрын
George Lucas: There are only green blue and Red Light sabers in star wars Mace windu: are you sure about that?
@TotinosOtherBoy
@TotinosOtherBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Plo Koon: Im still here..
@eurosensazion
@eurosensazion 4 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu "Motha Faka"
@darylsdesigns6679
@darylsdesigns6679 4 жыл бұрын
Dooku was the Shatterpoint
@justmutantjed
@justmutantjed 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean, "What about Jango?" The way I see it, he came out a head.
@locke103
@locke103 4 жыл бұрын
that... sounds like something obi-wan would say.
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 4 жыл бұрын
It's part of what made Dooku such a valuable apprentice to Sidious. His reputation, charisma and personal wealth as well as his great swordsmanship and Force power allowed him to build the CIS and GAR without suspicion.
@gwyndolin1536
@gwyndolin1536 4 жыл бұрын
What, he didn't sense the Dark Side in Count Dooku? We missed such a awesome battle....like two ships passing in the night.
@user-ti2rg2mq6z
@user-ti2rg2mq6z 4 жыл бұрын
No but Dooku sensed a dark side XD
@Hntrd
@Hntrd 4 жыл бұрын
This is why he was so quick to assemble the strongest masters available to confront Sidious in ep 3
@collegebro85
@collegebro85 4 жыл бұрын
Ironically, his hesitance to strike down Dooku and not making the same decision when facing against Palpatine, it cost him his life. If he would have shown restraint once more, he might have survived the encounter or prevented Anakin from fully turning rather than giving into his fear and losing his way...
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 4 жыл бұрын
Well Mace did get his chance to rectify his mistake in hesitating to strike at Dooku, it might only be a couple of panels but we get to see them cross blades during the Battle of Boz Pity.
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 4 жыл бұрын
baldy hardnut in Legends there was a comic series called Star Wars: Obsession, at the end was a huge battle involving most of the Jedi Council, a few other Jedi, Senator Bail Organa and an army of clones against Separatist forces being lead by Count Dooku and General Grievous as well as a recovering Asajj Ventress.
@roigergoololo3966
@roigergoololo3966 4 жыл бұрын
Cause he was waiting for his moment to say 'You are under arrest, my lord."
@user-ti2rg2mq6z
@user-ti2rg2mq6z 4 жыл бұрын
Does Dooku not have a sith title? Is he just stuck with the lame "count"
@roigergoololo3966
@roigergoololo3966 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ti2rg2mq6z I think it's Darth Tyranus, but hardly any one ever uses it.
@arkcoyote
@arkcoyote 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ti2rg2mq6z Like Roigoger said, his sith title is Darth Tyranus. However, this name was kept secret from the jedi for most of the clone wars (or rather, they didn't know that name was referring to Dooku).
@user-ti2rg2mq6z
@user-ti2rg2mq6z 4 жыл бұрын
Damm I forgot. Thanks
@paulocavazos5439
@paulocavazos5439 4 жыл бұрын
All Dooku had to do, "say what one more time!"
@RyanTheDark
@RyanTheDark 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome, my old friend... plot. I haven't seen you for an while.
@Drawnartist
@Drawnartist 3 жыл бұрын
For a while... havent seen grammar in awhile either I see haha
@RyanTheDark
@RyanTheDark 3 жыл бұрын
@@Drawnartist Haven't seen a grammatical jerk who wants to act like he's smart for a while either. Haha. Also, you want to talk about my grammar: *For a while... haven't seen grammar in awhile either, I see. Haha.* Next time you try to be a jerk and wants to act like you're smart, do know how to spell.
@ninedivines5374
@ninedivines5374 3 жыл бұрын
Plot kun
@arsyadsyuwariwarren9221
@arsyadsyuwariwarren9221 4 жыл бұрын
“LAST TIME I TRUSTED SOMEONE, I LOST AN ARM!”
@MuninnMyrkvi
@MuninnMyrkvi 4 жыл бұрын
You keep mentioning Dooku's dedication to the Sith and his "dark path" but seem to forget that Dooku didn't strike out at Mace in that moment either, which he very well could have since Mace was otherwise occupied. The Jedi order wasn't entirely wrong about Dooku being an idealist.
@hammerhan2445
@hammerhan2445 4 жыл бұрын
How did Padme come to conclusion that Dooku was behind her assassination attempts? If the jedi and others saw him as a good guy still what made her give his name out of nowhere?
@curtislangford3181
@curtislangford3181 4 жыл бұрын
Shatterpoint was a GREAT f....ing Novel!!!
@starwarsreadingclub
@starwarsreadingclub 4 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! I know I've always heard great thing about it, and while I've read a few sections here and there and I'm going to try to make time to read it. The first few pages have already been a lot of fun!
@curtislangford3181
@curtislangford3181 4 жыл бұрын
@@starwarsreadingclub it was alotta GREAT introspection into Mace Windu's character and why contrary to what Anakin Skywalker believed...you will learn that Mace Windu DID NOT hate him!
@revolverocelot1380
@revolverocelot1380 4 жыл бұрын
@@curtislangford3181 Good luck telling that to the absolutely idiotic fanbase.
@robertocaetano4945
@robertocaetano4945 4 жыл бұрын
I really love the name "legends" in the tittle :)
@robertocaetano4945
@robertocaetano4945 4 жыл бұрын
@Mike B Legends for the good part of SW and Canon for this lame sequels trilogy...i get it! :)
@user-ti2rg2mq6z
@user-ti2rg2mq6z 4 жыл бұрын
@Mike B What do you mean "discredited" ? Like how everything past episode 6 is?
@tron8188
@tron8188 4 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail always makes me laugh, mace is like "just lining it up for later"
@Eric-ro8bw
@Eric-ro8bw 4 жыл бұрын
Because that’s not how the movie was written.
@recklesflam1ngo968
@recklesflam1ngo968 4 жыл бұрын
w o w e e
@chakkuWoe
@chakkuWoe 4 жыл бұрын
Smart ass 😂🤦‍♂️
@fabiancortez2256
@fabiancortez2256 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This isn’t a historical event. It’s fiction.
@stardust1621
@stardust1621 3 жыл бұрын
BAM 💯
@bobbyvee260
@bobbyvee260 4 жыл бұрын
That is what I have always assumed. Mace didn't know Dooku was Sith so it would be un-Jedi to simply kill him.
@bobbyvee260
@bobbyvee260 4 жыл бұрын
What I thought about was … Hmm the template of the clone army is standing next to a Sith. Why didn't Mace wonder about that afterward?
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 4 жыл бұрын
There are still so many stories to be told about Dooku and his time in the Jedi Order. His connection with Qui-Gon, Yoda and Mace are a treasure trove of potential
@VarjoFilosofi
@VarjoFilosofi 4 жыл бұрын
Even if Windu had attacked Dooku, would he had been able to defeat him? I don't think so. Even 1vs1 would had been tough win for Windu and in that situation Dooku wasn't alone.
@paull3278
@paull3278 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Risky fight for either of them, and Dooku had Jango to back him up here.
@MyCvll
@MyCvll 4 жыл бұрын
Mace would have beat him. He was the Jedi Orders secret weapon
@revolverocelot1380
@revolverocelot1380 4 жыл бұрын
Windu with his skills alone was almost on par with dooku in lightsaber combat. But vaapad would've allowed him to win. He managed to fight on par with sidious with it and sidious could've killed dooku like he was a fly.
@weeb1987
@weeb1987 2 жыл бұрын
Vaapad wouldn't work it only works if the dark side user uses anger and Dooku was always calm
@KoalaTContent
@KoalaTContent 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the novel said something along the lines that if he stuck Dooku, Jango would've been able to kill him
@tweso1499
@tweso1499 4 жыл бұрын
AngryEchidna That is true. Despite being able to kill Jango, Mace is not only well aware of, but also feared the prowess of the man who killed 6 Jedi “with his *BARE HANDS* “ at the Battle of Galidran (pardon my language). That said, had Jango’s jetpack worked the way it was supposed to, it would’ve prolong the fight a bit longer, but wouldn’t truly change the outcome much
@KoalaTContent
@KoalaTContent 4 жыл бұрын
@@tweso1499 If his jetpack worked he likely would have bugged out of the fight, Mace was still trapped by the battle droids. But specifically on the balcony, If Mace turned his back to Jango to kill Dooku, Jango would have the opening needed to kill Mace.
@benjaminharris7831
@benjaminharris7831 4 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed how often Star Wars content creators repeat themselves?
@Kamibandit
@Kamibandit 4 жыл бұрын
Trying to extend videos that should really be 2 minutes max lol
@spinozilla2421
@spinozilla2421 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@bigdaddytrips6197
@bigdaddytrips6197 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Zeroh is a good example
@jotarokujo3603
@jotarokujo3603 4 жыл бұрын
This could apply to the source material too lmao.
@Kotoamatsukami6910
@Kotoamatsukami6910 4 жыл бұрын
Ik just from one sentence they do an entire video
@evahdarth4406
@evahdarth4406 4 жыл бұрын
The great sith Lord Tyranus thought he'd recruit all the Jedis to join him on the dark side😂🤣 except for Anakin of course, he didn't like that boy at alll
@BurntAce
@BurntAce 4 жыл бұрын
5:04 Wait a minute, a jedi claimed it was okay to let attachment overpower his trust in the force?!
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 4 жыл бұрын
Because of story plot, they needed dooku to live in episode 2 and for all those jedi to die in episode 3 as well for story plot
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 4 жыл бұрын
When I see all of the spelling and grammatical errors in the comment section: "much to learn you still have."
@nealgray2744
@nealgray2744 4 жыл бұрын
That's fine no one's perfect hehe have a good day
@JReed7560
@JReed7560 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Monk goes to the Star Wars Reading Club comments section. L lol
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 4 жыл бұрын
It seems people don't get sarcasm/witty banter but that's OK. Regardless of what a person's first language is most people, myself included, often use "text speech" as opposed to using the full length words when using the Internet. Not sure why we do, it probably goes back to the day when sending a text message limited one to a certain number of characters. So apologies for anyone offended by the original comment, for there was none intended. Hope everyone has a good day and a merry christmas/happy holidays this coming week. May the Force be with you.
@liljared711
@liljared711 4 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail just screams “Dont move muthafucka” 😂
@VikeDefender
@VikeDefender 4 жыл бұрын
Dooku is also one of the greatest duelist so it would be kinda hard to just strike him down.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and Mace never bested him in lightsaber dueling or force battles when Dooku was a Jedi and Dooku as a Sith is even more powerful and skilled so I doubt Mace would beat him either either Dooku would win or they would be at a impasse yeah
@s.j.rogers129
@s.j.rogers129 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos have come along way. Continue the stellar work.
@blunatmay4459
@blunatmay4459 4 жыл бұрын
He didn't attack/kill him 'cause THAT PARTY WAS OVER.
@kainslegacy78618
@kainslegacy78618 4 жыл бұрын
Mace's word on Dooku being the client for Padme's assassination: "Don't forget, Count Dooku was once a Jedi, he could never kill anyone. It would be against his nature." "Could never kill anyone". Flashback of Dooku's jedi history and overall mentality... "It would be against his nature". Such fucking arrogance.
@marcomcdowell8861
@marcomcdowell8861 4 жыл бұрын
Dooku has the power of Plot Armor.
@sephirothbahamut245
@sephirothbahamut245 4 жыл бұрын
"calling them old friends"... Well well, the jedi didn't watch LotR, did they? Because else they'd know what happens when Dook-i mean, Saruman, calls someone "old friend"
@mittensfastpaw
@mittensfastpaw 4 жыл бұрын
Understandable but the Jedi are also very naive on many fronts.
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly because Dooku was so charming, he could've easily talked his way out of a potential hostage situation.
@bluepaulsbluepauls8887
@bluepaulsbluepauls8887 4 жыл бұрын
Your my favourite Jedi in legends and Canon screw everyone else
@fridaynightnicktoons6885
@fridaynightnicktoons6885 4 жыл бұрын
Onoy better talker then sidious was dooku imo
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluepaulsbluepauls8887 severely underrated Jedi. Not only did I wipe the floor with Dooku and his dark acolytes, but I also clapped Asajj Ventress' cheeks.
@bluepaulsbluepauls8887
@bluepaulsbluepauls8887 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93Lol "clapped Asajj Ventress" best Jedi and Ladies man. Didn't you also survive Order 66 in Canon
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluepaulsbluepauls8887 of course....at least Disney implies that. Not that I care too much about Disney canon
@chatch621
@chatch621 4 жыл бұрын
Qui-Gon Jinn would of stated, "There is always a bigger fish".
@rickyandreou
@rickyandreou 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone bring this up because it always bothered me. My issue wasn't that he didn't try to kill Dooku but that he was clearly within range of getting the drop on him (And should have) but weirdly chose to hold his blade to the neck of a hired mercenary instead who was of no bargaining value.
@mrandrossguy9871
@mrandrossguy9871 4 жыл бұрын
Hmp I just thought , I’d love to see Mace Vs Maul It would be over quickly but it’s still interesting
@drewc2735
@drewc2735 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched episode 2 a couple days ago and was asking this question.
@jasonfountain6254
@jasonfountain6254 4 жыл бұрын
Your video on Dooku's lack of Sith eyes and his involvement with Sidious and Pleaguis in the Darth Pleaguis novel as well as his reveal to Kenobi in Attack of the Clones lead me to a Theory that Dooku may have been attempting to use Sidious the same way Sidious would ultimately be revealed to have been using Dooku. Dooku agreed to partner with Sidious to bring down the Republic, and perhaps dabble in the Dark side, but I wonder if Dooku sought to bring down the Republic and ultimately turn on Sidious to either lead the new Empire or simply be content that the Repubic had fallen.
@Cool_Adam
@Cool_Adam 4 жыл бұрын
Answer: Because Jedi don't kill without cause; if they are attacked they will defend themselves. Even if that means they end up kiling them.
@dominicomegon4714
@dominicomegon4714 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@andrewharmer7317
@andrewharmer7317 4 жыл бұрын
If NOT for me, for Jango's head!!!
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 4 жыл бұрын
His fighting style would not have been effective against a Sith Lord who can control his emotions
@darylsdesigns6679
@darylsdesigns6679 4 жыл бұрын
Mac Welch true. If Mace were to go up against someone like Darth Maul, Mace would definitely win
@397llederson6
@397llederson6 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@causti9744
@causti9744 4 жыл бұрын
@@darylsdesigns6679 He could probably also beat Dooku, he has more than Vapaad after all. But it would be a close thing for sure.
@BruceRylan
@BruceRylan 4 жыл бұрын
Peace is a lie there is only passion. Words well known to the Sith. A True Dark lord channels the right emotions at the right time and empower his connection to the use of his Dark side powers. Still Windu defeated Sidious himself so Dooku would be a gonner in a 1v1.
@joshuacolt2630
@joshuacolt2630 4 жыл бұрын
@@BruceRylan Dooku would have won. Later in the war Mace would have won. Dooku was an elderly gentleman and still fought fairly well against yoda.
@ZoeMalDoran
@ZoeMalDoran 4 жыл бұрын
Saw the video title and thought "This is going to reference the novel 'Shatterpoint', isn't it?" and indeed it did :)
@reggieazem4143
@reggieazem4143 4 жыл бұрын
Dope dope dope! Great content as always! Thank you!!!
@Adarkane325xi
@Adarkane325xi 2 жыл бұрын
All of these actors are phenomenal; Christopher Lee, Ian McDiarmid, Temuera Morrison. To this day i have no clue why Dooku tried to lure Obi-Wan to his side. What would’ve happened if Kenobi agreed? Would they have killed Sidious? Dooku and Qui-Gon seemed to not be as dogmatic and strict as the Jedi or Sith, this is an approach adopted by Grand Master Luke Skywalker as well.
@ryansanico6539
@ryansanico6539 4 жыл бұрын
If not for me: I'm disappointed that now in Star wars Cannon that Jango and Boba Fett are not Mandalorian.
@eurosensazion
@eurosensazion 4 жыл бұрын
Well that was pretty much told in Clone Wars the animated series regarding Jango. Think Season 2 any of the episodes with the Duchess the one where Padme goes to Mandalore.
@kyleprince5817
@kyleprince5817 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible Mace Windus shatter point may have been the reason he distrusted Anakin so much, detecting him as a weakness in the order
@ThePodfish
@ThePodfish 4 жыл бұрын
DUCK JANGO ! THE Smell of burning meat . Nooooooooo Dad no Dad ! Boba picks up his fathers helmet .
@Mr.PepeSilvia
@Mr.PepeSilvia 4 жыл бұрын
Because turning your back on Jango is bad for business....
@davidevans7477
@davidevans7477 4 жыл бұрын
Very good point, Jango would kill him while dueling a hard match vs Dooku
@saiyanape6015
@saiyanape6015 4 жыл бұрын
Darth Tyranus my Favorite Force User .. well verse in the Ligth and Dark Side of the Force... also master of Makashi my favorite style with My favorite Hilt of Ligthsaber ... only thing missing is My favorite color of Ligthsaber Orange ...
@friezasama8860
@friezasama8860 4 жыл бұрын
it's simple the only person a Jedi would kill preemptively was a sith lord. had he known Dooku was a sith he would've killed him on the spot. as he did when discovered who Sidious was
@goatkiller666
@goatkiller666 4 жыл бұрын
The Jedi aren't allowed to have relations with anybody outside the Order, so that they won't have emotional conflicts during critical moments. So they won't do exactly what Mace Windu did here. So either the Jedi need to drop that restriction, or Yoda should have rebuked Windu for failing to act.
@johnconnor5823
@johnconnor5823 4 жыл бұрын
If you had a mace purple i would literally faint......my fav is that purple saber
@krzekil
@krzekil 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Mace, thought after the fact, that killing dooku would have stopped the war proves how narrow minded the jedi were.
@andrewmergy128
@andrewmergy128 4 жыл бұрын
Out right striking Dooku down could've take mace over the edge and made a bigger problem in the end. Just straight up murder isnt in the jedi way anyways.
@kinggizard9375
@kinggizard9375 4 жыл бұрын
OpticalPR0PHET u say this but mace had no problem in decapitating mango fett
@andrewmergy128
@andrewmergy128 4 жыл бұрын
@@kinggizard9375 That was active combat, not murder, kinda different. Dude was trying to shoot him in the face. Dooku was just chillin and trying to watch people get munched on.
@Resjek
@Resjek 4 жыл бұрын
Mace is a demon... dude was broken as shit.. such a powerful character with so much conflicting feelings holding him back keeping him nerfed. He could have been the best, he's too much of both sides and it holds him back. I feel like a Sith talking like this, this world is so complicated
@interwebpsychiosis
@interwebpsychiosis 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't they tell by the Darker his Clothes he Wore... Laughing my Fucking Ass Off Rolling on the flooR
@mikevanroy9356
@mikevanroy9356 4 жыл бұрын
He held his lightsaber to Fett's throat but from that position he could easily have struck at Dooku as well.
@misterjosephfloyd
@misterjosephfloyd 4 жыл бұрын
This applied to Mace just straight wanting to kill Palpatine, puts that in a more understandable context. Mace had already chosen compassion with Dooku and he felt such regret behind that, he wasn't gonna go through that with Palpatine
@daniell1483
@daniell1483 3 жыл бұрын
This strikes me as another example of the Jedi order's failings. They largely believed themselves to be infallible, so the idea that one of their order had indeed fallen probably seemed completely impossible. What is most damning in my opinion is Mace's Shatterpoint; the Force was literally telling Mace something very important, but he ignored it due to his Jedi indoctrination. A Jedi who ignores the Force sounds oxymoronic, especially for a Jedi on Mace's level. It just drives the point home that this particular order had already fallen to some extent, and its destruction was inevitable.
@yokgor4675
@yokgor4675 4 жыл бұрын
Because he was afraid of his epic voice.
@marcoamazo
@marcoamazo 4 жыл бұрын
Idk what it is about the whole if not for meeee thing he does but I love it.
@planetdee3587
@planetdee3587 4 жыл бұрын
Mace knew he had to get down to the ground and help Obi Won because he just finish getting his butt whooped by Jango and would not live long down there with all those droids. Also Mace was pissed at Anakin for his attitude with the counsel and since he could see the future, he wanted Anakin to lose a hand. Yep.
@66alex6699
@66alex6699 4 жыл бұрын
Read the nouvel SHATTERPOINT! Pretty much the whole plot revolves around explaining it!! It also explains why he wants to kill a "seemingly" helpless Palpatine in ep.3 and was right!
@brendanroy452
@brendanroy452 4 жыл бұрын
The thumb nail of dooku is actually a statue that you can buy from sideshow collectibles for 250$. I'm considering buying it myself, i already own 3 of their statues already.
@TrooperStark
@TrooperStark 4 жыл бұрын
More and more it seems like Yoda was oblivious and completely complacent in his ways.
@redseagaming7832
@redseagaming7832 4 жыл бұрын
Agreement Yoda was like don't believe a single word Dooku says Obi-Wan at the end of the Star Wars Episode 2 the Clone Wars
@planetdee3587
@planetdee3587 4 жыл бұрын
Mace did not want to embarrass Dooku in front of all his people. Dooku would not be around to know Mace punked his master later on, but he knew the butt whooping he was going to get if he started something.
@LilZuZu
@LilZuZu 4 жыл бұрын
You could say Mace knew he would have his hand full 😂
@AquamentusLives
@AquamentusLives 4 жыл бұрын
What about the fact he was trying to kill 2 Jedi and the Senator he was earlier accused of killing earlier at that exact moment???
@KizaWittaker
@KizaWittaker 4 жыл бұрын
Windus lightsaber is purple because Red and Blue make purple. Mace had a dark side in him, he just didn’t fall victim to it. Instead he used it for good. Hence his form 7 fighting style, that is forbidden because it requires to use the dark side
@tyler4108
@tyler4108 4 жыл бұрын
Best Star Wars KZbinr out there.
@MasterCleife
@MasterCleife 4 жыл бұрын
All yoda ever talks about is how easy it is for a jedi to fall to the dark side yet when it happens, none of the jedi can believe it.
@shawnmotley1898
@shawnmotley1898 4 жыл бұрын
The clone wars would have been delayed not stopped if Mace killed Count Dooku. Palpatine was the mastermind and it would be more than likely he had another plan or another tool (people ) to use ig Dooku failed in this endeavor. Plus, plans were already in motion and both sith lords knew the Jedi Order were clouded by the dark side. Palpatine and Dooku were expecting the Jedi to come to the planet with the clone troopers. Dooku's death would not have changed that.
@katakisLives
@katakisLives 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Anakin, rumour has it that Dooku has turned to the dark side, hmmm, lets see what colour his light sabre is first, oh its red he's one of the bad guys now.
@jasonlauritsen5587
@jasonlauritsen5587 2 жыл бұрын
Because Mace knew better than to dare try him out.
@johnwebb6342
@johnwebb6342 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think Dooku was a Double agent. A spy. Not truly a Sith, but a Jedi Grand Master.
@dannybeads3672
@dannybeads3672 4 жыл бұрын
I would think one of the main reasons would be because I think it’s a Jedi law, or rule or whatever, that you don’t kill an unarmed or unsuspecting or idle enemy, or basically they don’t kill someone who isn’t attacking you or someone else or about to do something super evil that must be stopped... so Mace wouldn’t have just killed him while his back was turned... that combined with everything else said on here especially kept him from killing him... now if I’m wrong about what you’re talking about and you meant that mace should have fought him once Dooku already saw him and they had started talking... that’s a lot different of a situation because he’s not sneaking up and assassinating an unaware person just standing there doing nothing really... but if that’s the case, we’ll then he was smart not to attack him because Dooku is one of the best in history at fighting with a lightsaber, Mace is also one of the best in history, but he would be fighting another best Dooku with Jango Fett right there to attack at the same time, Jango bring not just a friggin mandalorian but also pretty much one of the best non force sensitive fighters alive and one of the best bounty hunters also... so Mace having to duel Dooku with Jango right there to attack at the same time, yeah I don’t know why that would even be a question, he did the smartest thing he could as a Jedi, he made sure to freeze with his lightsaber the hired gun with all the gadgets and skills while he talked/threatened/negotiated with Dooku... now maybe he could have put the lightsaber to Dooku’s neck and told Jango to throw all his weapons over the balcony or something, but I feel like that still might have been easy for Dooku to make a move as mace was slightly looking and waiting on Jango and then Jango would have also made a move and mace could easily been screwed, although mace is super fast so who knows for sure... all I know is that, yeah while killing Dooku when he first snuck up behind them would have ended it before it started, it’s just not what the Jedi do, they’re not allowed to, it’s against their core beliefs, so in that situation he basically did the best he could, the only thing I think they could have done better is have more than one Jedi sneak in behind Dooku and Jango so it wouldn’t have just been 1 on 2, maybe even have 5 friggin Jedi walk up with lightsabers lit and actually force Dooku to surrender unless he jumped off like mace had to and then Dooku would have been in the middle of the huge battle with tons of Jedi around him so he would have been done for unless he improvised some miracle... but anyway, I think it’s dumb to bring up really, I mean it’s understandable for Mace to regret it as millions would die in the war to come and if he could have just done the one thing he could have stopped it, but he would have known any and every great Jedi also wouldn’t have done it because it’s not the Jedi way, so the only thing to talk about would be what mental pain it would cause Mace, nobody else would even think of it, but it would have the possibility of tearing mace up inside because he knew being a Jedi he did the right thing and a Jedi isn’t allowed to do it, but if he could have done just the one bad thing, just killed him he could have stopped it and saved so many, but would it have broken him? Turned him to the dark side? Or would he have been able to deal with it fine? Or would him being broken by it have been worth it to save millions preventing the war.... or would the war have happened anyway because it wasn’t just Dooku behind it.... all in all Mace Windu is one of the best Jedi in history, especially if you ask me, but the proof is all out there, defeated the emperor in lightsaber combat blocking his force lightning, he’s one of the best ever so he would have been fine either way.. you could definitely point out this moment as to why when he was about to finish off Palpatine and Anakin tried to stop him mace said “he’s too dangerous to be kept alive”... him regretting letting Dooku go as the war started probably had him tell himself in his mind he would never let anything like that happen again... although he didn’t even need to say “he’s too dangerous to be kept alive” because palpatine was friggin attacking him with lightning the entire time so all he would have done by killing him would have been him killing the evil Sith Lord that was endlessly attacking him... anyway it’s all cool how that connects... but yeah nobody would have killed Dooku in that moment and situation.
@plutoreturns9630
@plutoreturns9630 4 жыл бұрын
Well, in the end they both suffered the same fate. Having their hand(s) cut off by Anakin while Palpatine watched, then being killed a few seconds later.
@eurosensazion
@eurosensazion 4 жыл бұрын
If he killed Dooku is would spoil Palpatine's plans he had foreseen and no OT. Plus Dooku would most likely instantly respond to an attack and maybe Mace wanted to know who was the real Sith Lord,
@The_Kawazaki_Kid
@The_Kawazaki_Kid Жыл бұрын
1 they were looking for the bounty hunter not dooku 2 the bounty hunter was the biggest threat to a jedi. As his armour and jet pack is designed for that.
@mmx4gaming12
@mmx4gaming12 4 жыл бұрын
I bet It was because he remembered dokou had plot armour
@BJETNT
@BJETNT 4 жыл бұрын
He chocked!!! Especially with shatterpoint force ability. I wouldn't have made that mistake. You think dooku would have felt mace walking up behind him.
@damedoes
@damedoes 2 жыл бұрын
So I'm confused is attachment allowed or not. The force told him what to do and he ignored it and Yoda agreed with him doing that?
@DiegoHPanay
@DiegoHPanay 4 жыл бұрын
There is another answer in comics, he would be exposed to Jango's fire and killed.
@amidabuddha7108
@amidabuddha7108 4 жыл бұрын
Jedi don't do attachment. It was poison from the beginning.
@FlintsInfernape
@FlintsInfernape 4 жыл бұрын
Mace doesn't harm Dooku, and even Yoda defends his inability to do so because it is seen as compassionate to try to save a friend. And yet, Anakin would probably have viewed it as an attachment that Mace Windu was permitted, but the Jedi wouldn't allow any such considerations for him. Mace uses more of the dark side than any other Jedi and is allowed these close bonds, but no such treatment is allowed to Anakin. It's quite sad that the Jedi couldn't see their own hypocrisy.
@maryuma7
@maryuma7 4 жыл бұрын
Jango was going to get away but his jetpack wasnt working then mace...so jango didnt head out the way he wanted too. But good topic i never questioned why mace didnt kill dooku at that time.
@user-ti2rg2mq6z
@user-ti2rg2mq6z 4 жыл бұрын
Jango deserved it tho. But so did Mace.
@anakinpalpatine8725
@anakinpalpatine8725 4 жыл бұрын
I just wonder why Dooku’s sith name Darth Tyranus was rarely used
@VotePaineJefferson
@VotePaineJefferson 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Jedi use the force for defense, never for attack? So why would Windu just murder somebody?
@darkrite9000
@darkrite9000 4 жыл бұрын
Does the way Dooku depart the Jedi Order in canon differ from Legends? As in another video (by a different youtuber) it is mentioned that Dooku said nothing and merely left after becoming angry with the order.
@MitchJohnson0110
@MitchJohnson0110 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's why Mace was so quick to not let Sheev escape...
@trentdavis2904
@trentdavis2904 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see a mace windu prequel movie with Micheal B. Jordan as a young mace.
@crackedupmonk
@crackedupmonk 4 жыл бұрын
Trent Davis im down.
@fridaynightnicktoons6885
@fridaynightnicktoons6885 4 жыл бұрын
Hell no to recasting sam. Just digitally de-age him.
@trentdavis2904
@trentdavis2904 4 жыл бұрын
I love Samuel L. Motherfuckin Jackson. But I would like to see his younger story on the big screen. But would def. be down for a sequel also.
@trentdavis2904
@trentdavis2904 4 жыл бұрын
And I hate the de-age cgi.
@trentdavis2904
@trentdavis2904 4 жыл бұрын
And I think he might be to old to do some of the things needed for a young mace windu. The only black actor that I think could do it and people be accepting of would be him. Not to mention that jordan has enough star power to put asses in seats and at the end of the day that's the only thing the nazi's at disney care about.
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