Did Vader Tell Palpatine About Obi-Wan Disappearing After Defeating Him in Episode 4? (Legends)

[@AllanG1914]

...yes, an old, naked Jedi master loose on the Death Star, Master.Yes. Just his robes."

[@ajra6143]

It would be the “You’d have to have been there to believe it” kind of story

[@JT-km6th]

Imagine Vader pleading and that he saw it happen and Palpatine laughing and saying 'whatever man, stop fucking with me, what really happened XDDD'

[@socialaccount0000]

@@JT-km6th "Lord Vader, you need not lie. I know Obi Wan had been slain aboard the death star, I am simply curious on how you eliminated him." "I'm telling you, my master. But niggas be wilin', he just fucking vanished man"

[@azureangel8217]

@@socialaccount0000 💀💀💀💀lmfao

[@Yumemaru.]

@@socialaccount0000 😂

[@LEXICON-DEVIL]

Or the " you should of hung out Maaaan. Right after you left......."

[@darylsdesigns6679]

Even in death, Kenobi is a master of trolling

[@lordshinumbra6441]

Hello there

[@bossslayer877]

Lord ShinUmbra General Kenobi

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

master of trolling is an understatement, lol.

[@ThatGuy-bm9cs]

@@bossslayer877 you are a bold one indeed

[@chatch621]

That is why you hold onto the "reverse card".

[@ivancerecer5758]

*obi wan lets himself die and sidious merely gets tosed* Vader: that was easy as shit...did it really took me 20 years or so to kill them?

[@CrudeConduct666]

Haha yeah as he was dying he was probably thinking " damn I coulda been done this shit"

[@LEXICON-DEVIL]

Well remember that Sidious tells Luke to kill Vader right in front of him. Vader to Sidious: wha? Really dawg? After all this time ma nigga you gonna do me like this? You just gonna talk about me right in front of my face like I'm not here? In front of ma BOY TOO?? FUCK YOU NIGGA! UP AND OVER BITCH!!

[@b.lloydreese2030]

Vader: that was super easy. Barely an inconvenience

[@johnnygyro2295]

@@b.lloydreese2030 Luke: "Uh Dad, is your suit supposed to smell like burning ozone?" Anakin/Vader: "Oh shit, maybe there is some inconvenience." *Proceeds to topple down to the floor*

[@BluePlaysGames]

B. Lloyd Reese wrong channel dude 😂

[@numbers9to0]

Vader: I killed Obi-Wan. Emperor: Bring me his body! I need it for experiments. Vader: Uhmmm...

[@someonesomeone4262]

ö. . , this time he will be the perfect clone even better then mango fett

[@trence5]

wish there was a laughing out loud emoji.

[@moritro]

@@trence5 😂 there it is

[@DaleESkywalker]

Vader had bigger concerns than a disappearing Jedi Master.

[@drgvgfg391]

Yes he had to find him once more

[@gregsmith1792]

Dale Erdmann not really. his obsession with Jedi was his priority as well as taking over with Luke so I mean having a force ghost whispering in Luke's ear would be a direct threat to his goal

[@DaleESkywalker]

Look, guys. I just come up with a quick, sometimes coherent sentence with the words from the end, "If not for me..." and sometimes it's actually relevant to the video. It's just a comment to show support for Gregg.

[@DaleESkywalker]

Actually, it is sort of true, from a certain point of view. If his boss found out, he'd be in big trouble. He had to concern himself with other things.

[@dariusfarrel3228]

@@gregsmith1792 more like his obsession with finding Obi wan and killing him personally

[@soarthroughlimits7245]

Sidious: How did he die Vadar? Vadar: The mfer just disappeared on me.

[@svenkleinplarre9461]

HE DID WHAT!?

[@Axel_Kasai]

Vader: I never told you what happened to obi-wan Palpatine: you told me you killed him. Vader: no. I am obi wan Palpatine: NOOOOOO!

[@iTzZMaRvElAcE]

Wtf

[@Tempusverum]

Palpatine: Oh nooooooo...

[@thedawsonator1628]

Pulls off Helmet like "Hello There!"

[@rippetoe38]

Lol.

[@WarDaddy0077]

Best fucking comment ever

[@matthewmohri9990]

I can imagine Vader going to Palpatine and in a California surfer's voice being like "Dude...He like disappeared right in front of me. I thought it was a magic trick or something. I didn't see a trap door or anything. I was thinking he had David Copperfield Powers but nope, the dude just disappeared." Vader to Palpatine.

[@kiyohshi]

You said Californian but my mind did Shaggy’s voice..

[@therealamerican99.76]

Yeah I read that in shaggy

[@3leggedwarrior850]

This is fuckin funny. Ur fucking funny, matt

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Vader: We have lost the Death Star, but at least I was able to vanquish one of our worst enemies. Palpatine: Just to make sure, you saw his dead body, he did not disappear into nothing, right? Vader: Why? Would that be bad? Paltapine: It means he became more powerful than we can possibly imagine. Vader: Yes... he is definitely dead. I wanted to present his head to you as a trophy, but it got destroyed together with the Death Star (crap, crap, crap).

[@graemestrachan4499]

Don't panic, he never died. He just projected himself to the death star. Oh wait that was luke

[@jrose4731]

Nope Sheev just survived i guess

[@samreddig8819]

I like that ability theoretically. But why does it kill you!

[@kaidorade1317]

He was probably terrified of Sidious punishing him for letting Kenobi “escape” this is a question I have wondered for years, and my favorite Star Wars you tuber delivers! Thank you good sir!

[@defeatSpace]

I'm not sure if Vader is that afraid of Palps towards the end, more like fed up with his corny cobs.

[@Serdar124]

İf he was that afraid of sidous he would have never comeback after deathstar destroyed

[@КонрадЛейк]

Maybe he was already a ghost, and just came back for the meme

[@theredpillneo2296]

Maybe he slipped and fell after he turned off the shields 💀

[@Stellar001100]

You know... they should have ghost Obi-Wan pop up in an extended scene in Rise of Skywalker and say, 'Hello there'.

[@3cHoStat]

Me: Sees video Also me:"I find your lack of faith disturbing"

[@3cHoStat]

@Bizzare Meme Lord thanks i thought something was off

[@screamingindigital1980]

It would have been funny if obi wan would spook Vader like when he's in a bancta tank he goes "hello there" scaring the scrap out of Vader .

[@hmaster4522]

I mean he might be able to tell Vader about luke and get him to change

[@Seminooos]

Video idea: What if Anakin lost the podrace in phantom menace?

[@samreddig8819]

Now this is slavery

[@Seminooos]

@@samreddig8819 true, but I meant it more for Qui-Gon and the others and how they would be effected and how would it change future events in the galaxy.

[@coolest1seven814]

He didnt defeat Obi-wan he never landed a blow against Obi-wan.

[@sheadoherty7434]

Tapping out is losing though, so Vader wins by default

[@coolest1seven814]

@@sheadoherty7434 It was all apart of his plans. Obi-wan had one last lesson to teach his old apprentice and a new lesson to teach his new apprentice. When Obi-wan vanished it was the first time in 20 years Vader questioned his own knowledge of the force.

[@snyper5150]

Well, if you think about it Darth Sodoous was present during Qui-Gon Jinn’s funeral. With that being said, he probably was under the impression that the Jedi somehow lost the knowledge of turning the force ghost. Even though he understood that there were many Sarah slaughter during Order 66. And with each one of them having bodies to show that they were killed, he would have no reason to believe that they still knew how to turn the ghost. The only thing now is to explain how they lost the knowledge.

[@louiscooks7457]

"If not for meeeee.....For having bigger concerns." 😆 I love those.

[@joshuahobson1592]

Dawg be wilding out with it on god

[@AdmiralPureBlood]

I hate those. I always close the video before hand. So stupid sounding

[@truesoulghost2777]

@@AdmiralPureBlood I know...

[@Uncivil_Dreams]

It sounds retarded, rest of the video is always great though

[@stoozdee]

@@AdmiralPureBlood make your own videos then, champ

[@RyanTheDark]

Palpatine: Obi-Wan gotten the higher ground. Vader: Grrr. Palpatine: You should be more cautious my apprentice. Vader: *SHUT UP!!!*

[@Alarcj7]

And knowing the discipline Vader putted here...unlike in the remastered version.

[@employee962]

Ok Ryan

[@Tubeman244]

GL/EU: a Force user disappearing upon death & becoming a Force Ghost is so rare that even 900 yr old Yoda had no knowledge of it till Qui-Gon enlightened him & is a skill that must be taught. Disney: Every Force user can magically disappear after death so it's not that special & unique anymore.

[@anonymousxaela761]

Really? That's what you take issue with? Obi Wan likely taught Luke the ability, and Luke in turn taught those afterwards. Is that such a stretch in your mind?

[@goji253]

They kept that continuity. It makes sense for Luke to know it. And it's not that far fetched to assume he taught his pupils, especially those that are his family, how it works. Everybody else just dies normally.

[@Irishguy-hb8jb]

And yet sidious and plageuis new and not yoda or any of the council members only jinn knew some of it

[@jeskerjames2938]

I mean obviously Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Anakin would have told Luke at some point how to do it. Leia probably learned from Luke how to do it. And Luke or one of the other force ghost probably helped Ben Solo become a Force Ghost like how Obi-Wan did for Anakin when he died on the second Death Star. I'm not a fan of the sequel trilogy, but there is already pre-established reasons for why Luke, Leia, and Ben would have become force-ghosts. They at least didn't ruin that aspect of Star Wars in the new films.

[@sethwinters3556]

@@anonymousxaela761 he might have been talking about the other twenty people who spoke to rey during the movie. Like how TF did aayla secura and mace windu learn to live on? Qui-gon was able to live on with only his voice in the force because he knew how. And they make it pretty clear in the clone wars cartoon that's not normal or something anyone can do. You had to know how. I don't really have a problem with it personally tho just pointing out how it could be confusing

[@here4good]

"Vader thought deeply on the matter for a long time and came to a firm conclusion" Vader: yup, he dead

[@goodmind4940]

"never to be seen again" are you joking...

[@andremead6192]

That moment your literally "ghosted" by someone 😭

[@vaibhavkumar8133]

"His faith will be same as ours" must have prevented him from revealing Ben Kenobi disappearance during their duel

[@sidnew2739]

Funny thing is: All three of them died on a deathstar...

[@owensmit3637]

@@sidnew2739 Obi Wan and Anakin both disappeared in the sequels...

[@sidnew2739]

@@owensmit3637 What is your point?

[@paulcharpentier5613]

I'm surprised Anakin didn't know that quay Gon gin disappeared when he died.

[@slime4632]

Vader knew about force ghosts. Well anakin does because when he slaughtered the tuskan raiders Qui-gon tried to convince him to stop

[@davidordaz5251]

Always love hearing about more Star Wars lore makes the story more interesting

[@novkorova2774]

"Yeah, he totally disappeared"

[@JanPeverell]

Plagueis is such a knowledgeable Sith, and I just love how he approaches the Force

[@diosoth]

As classic as Star Wars is, the disjointed writing left the EU a lot of holes to fill. The Emperor gets a passing mention in Ep4 and his character had not been fully finalized by then. Vader's character hadn't even been established by then and Ep5 sort of went against initial plans while the full backstory would take almost 20 years to fill out. Much of the explanatory stuff wasn't there when the film was made and it sort of shows regardless of the EU.

[@lordredgod7544]

Lol. Obi one is always trolling anakin😂

[@socialaccount0000]

3:51 Bullshit, Anakin directly talks to Qui Gon Jinn during the Mortis arc of the clone wars tv show (and I think his Mom briefly?) And even if you consider the arc to all be in Anakin/Obi wans' head, soon after they return to Corruscant, Anakin can briefly hear Qui Gon communing with Yoda, which means it wasnt all in his head, Qui Gon had only became a force ghost by accident/will of the force. And as such could only interact with the living realm in areas highly concentrated in the force, such as Dagobah, Mortis, etc.

[@PommieUsian]

I imagine it's been mentioned before, but Vader killing Obi-Wan was the first step on his path to redemption. A focus of his anger was eliminated and given anger is critical to Dark Side powers, Vader fundamentally weakened himself and opened the path back to being Anakin by killing Obi-Wan.

[@ericb8241]

Ye no. Father son bond would’ve happened regardless. He’s part of padme.

[@whichDude]

Vader: "My master, I am at a loss. Kenobi vanished after I struck him down. Did he become one with the Force? Is there such a power?" Sidious: "How high did you have your lightsaber turned up?" Vader stares Sidious: "Listen, I'm just saying you probably it turned up to high."

[@I86282]

Actually freaking video man. !

[@yfullman]

Wasn't it made obvious Vader knew Obi-Wan was still around when he told Luke "Obi-Wan has taught you well" during their duel in episode 6?

[@johnnygyro2295]

There's a chance he thought Obi-Wan taught Luke for a longer time before dying. I'm not sure if he and Palpatine knew Yoda was still alive or not.

[@MrBrewer7736]

Sidicious knew Yoda was still alive because he escaped from the their dual in the Senate.

[@LordSesshomaru86]

I have a few questions on this: Was the knowledge of how to become a force ghost limited to only Qui-gon, Obi-wan, Yoda during the span of episodes 1-6? Because the way Yoda implies it(at least in the movies) is that Qui-gon learned how first, taught Yoda, Yoda teaches Obi-wan how to talk to Qui-gon, then Qui-gon teaches Obi-wan. That seems odd in itself to me because Luke didn't have any training on how to speak to force ghosts, Obi-wan would just show up and talk to him. Are there other ways to keep your consciousness after death for Jedis other than becoming a force ghost? Anakin became a force ghost after dying at the hands of Sidious, but everyone that knew about how to become a force ghost was dead, didn't seem to train him on it. It also seems to be implied that your body has to disappear upon the moment of death, too(at least in the original trilogy), so is that just continuity error? Why were all those Jedi able to talk to Rey when they didn't seem to know how to become force ghosts? Seems like Anakin becoming a force ghost was just for the heartfelt moment, that disney was just doing their own thing when it came to the other dead jedis speaking to her.

[@andor888]

And now, jedi force ghosts can call down lightning, use telekinesis and seemingly physically catch thrown object in their hands. And it is canon.

[@jaytray5446]

you underestimate my power -obi wan

[@thedusktrainer5340]

Ah, yes, the ultimate trolling, disconnecting from server just before the foe lands the final blow.

[@hellishgrin4604]

"You can't see me, I'm naked!"

[@923crono]

If Rey was alive during this time, the empire wouldn't stand a chance. Neither would good story telling

[@infernalbaka557]

Had me at the first half not gonna lie

[@djd770]

Lol she would just stomp the empire with no training and a handful of xwings.

[@TheSuperRatt]

She was alive though! Except, as a man named Luke Skywalker :3

[@dirt_in_your_eye]

TheSuperRatt no your wrong

[@GhostedJackal]

Like, I'm not gonna defend the sequel trilogy, but the plot was not why the OG trilogy was good. It was pretty basic. Though, basic and competent is still better than the sequel trilogy.

[@dinfulofsin8525]

im wondering if Palpatine taught Vader anything. seemed like he just tortured him.

[@nickcolbert1981]

Emperor Palpatine was in need of unlimited dental plan

[@darthmonkeyballz6431]

Papa Palps: Lord Vader what happened to our "friend" Master Kenobi....... Darth Vader: U every C a rabbit disappear in a hat?............... well the hat is robes in this case, the rabbit Obi-Wan Kenobi I love this channel and amazing content! Plz keep it going mate.............. If not for me........... Then for my sanity👍

[@jmanpolo5611]

"Then for my sanity" would still be for you xD

[@PrestigeNumismatics]

An even a bigger mystery... why there was no burn mark or fire from Vader's light saber when he struck Obi?

[@AP__Anthony__]

In the new Vader comics well it isn’t really that new anymore but anyway Vader was sent to kill a Jedi women who attacked Vader using plants. When Vader finally got close to her she vanished and turned into a force ghost. She even called Vader skywalker and said “remember skywalker even the littlest of light will shine the brightest in the dark”

[@mikeb53]

*Vader looks round* Vader: Shit, he's got the highground again! *Flails lightsaber wildly in the air.*

[@HAIL-WAR.C]

Yea.. not disney star wars... keep it up

[@bobmcbob49]

step 1 to becoming a force ghost: put up your hood step 2: wire your robes to the ceiling

[@pRopaaNS]

There was probably just a hole below the spot he disappeared. He fell so fast only clothes remained behind.

[@peterkoinzell7983]

Vader swings that saber like it's a damn club. Be real.

[@jintym2951]

This was a fascinating topic! I absolutely adored it! If Sidious had been told things may have gone very differently... Certainly Sidious would have been better prepared for the young upstart Luke! 😂 xx

[@stratsteveo106]

A naked obi wan running around showing off his "Kenobi"

[@silverhawk7324]

0:23 Obi Wan's light saber is bent lol.

[@bobmcbob49]

it happens when you get old

[@incogttv325]

Respawn is a powerful ability, never giving the opposition the enjoyment of killing you.

[@TeChNoWC7]

*Obi Wan appears in Palpatine’s chambers as a force ghost* “Hello there”

[@udogtexas]

My brother and I loved buying the 77 lightsabers after the film and dueling with our dad in the hallway really cool great memories

[@ThePresidentialTourist]

Please keep up these awesome videos. You do amazing work and you have the number one star wars channel on youtube.

[@starwarsreadingclub]

Thank you for watching and for the support TPT, it is awesome to hear that you are enjoying the videos!

[@MrRobotRooster]

What happened to the old force ghosts

[@BlackJesus_Is_The_Saviour]

My friend was it you who had the old intro of epic music that had saber fights in the background that matched the beats of the song

[@jfaze5322]

Vader:my masters bobdy disappeared. Sidious: what!!

[@toddfrisby7599]

I have a question that you might answer why didn't Vader's body disappear and he become one with the force after he died in the arms of arms of Luke

[@ruminator3570]

He must not be allowed to escape. Escape is not his plan. So Vader knew that Obi-Wan I was trying to distract and cover Luke and company's escape.

[@user-qu1yl9xq1p]

Ok so I'm confused and could really use an answer here. If vader never heard of a jedi just disappearing into thin air before and therefore never took the trials as anakin how did he become a force ghost after vader was brought back to the light side by luke?

[@umbra837]

Vader saw someone do it before The dark lady did

[@EatsUsedTP]

Anakin saw Qui Gon's ghost in clone wars and it is thought that he learned how to become a force ghost before his fall to the dark side

[@terrenceseidman2587]

Hey SWRC can you find out exactly how many Sith spirits occupied Sidious corps and which Sith? Or was it all previous Sith?

[@mittensfastpaw]

Vader never recovered from the high ground.

[@antoniobrandao7139]

Are force ghosts eternal? If so, why didn’t Anakin appeared to Kylo to warn him about his future or why didn’t Obi Wan help Rey training or something ?

[@gamester512]

Kinda makes you wonder how Sidious would have reacted if Vader *had* revealed that Obi-Wan had vanished upon death. After all, Sidious would definitely have understood the implications of Obi-Wan still existing as a Force Ghost meaning that he could still aid the Rebellion (and specifically, Luke) even from beyond the grave, and that as a Force Ghost he would be far more difficult to "dispose of". Makes me wonder if Sidious would have considered hunting down and disposing of Obi-Wan's Force Ghost would be something Sidious himself attempted to do rather than send Vader (considering Vader's lack of awareness concerning Force Ghosts).

[@kurakuson]

Sodious could read minds and forsee glimpses. of future events; Sidious already knew.

[@somethingseismic7937]

Trying to find a good joke quickly... Sand... No Ahh Hello There! No... High ground... overused...

[@j.franklin21]

This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you reveal the jokes you won't use, but not tell us the joke you picked!?

[@Magneekic]

@Total war destroyer lol

[@campionedi1764]

For having bigger concerns!

[@tristanwatson2476]

Vader : Switching sides

[@Durplepurple94572]

Vader: yo palpatine you aint gonna believe this shit. Palpatine: what happened Vader: Obi wan disappeared. Palpatine: don't fuck with me Vader: I find your lack of faith disturbing

[@apollyonkatastrefia1586]

Sidious would have sniffed out Vaders true motives in an instant.

[@alexkrstulovic6054]

"How, I mean how do ya do that? Talk to me, like is you di police? FBI? CIA?"

[@regalmikey]

"I killed OBI-WAN from a certain point of view" said Darth Vader

[@rubensilva1710]

Because obi wan said strike me down and I'll become more powerful than you can imagine right b4 disappearing I can't see vader dismissing it

[@buckanderson8194]

If Vader intended to bring back Pagme then he had to have believed that people's consciousness existed after death.

[@jesusaguilarjr6655]

I know about the Sith version of this ability tying their spirits to physical places or objects.

[@theofficialkv9530]

In legends he has only seen it one time before kenobi turned to a force ghost

[@jeskerjames2938]

Darth Vader after Obi-Wan disappears: "Wh....what just happened?! AGH!!" *Vader looks down to see a blue lightsaber has been stabbed through his chest from behind* Obi-Wan standing behind Vader: "Instant transmission. Learned this little trick from the people of Yardrat."

[@cdizzle99z]

If I was a stormtrooper I would make armor out of that robe.

[@canaan_perry]

Pretty sure Palpatine would have foreseen it all.

[@2981-l8m]

I didn't even realise that General Kenobi who recruits Anakin and rescues Palpatine is Ben Kenobi who meets Luke Skywalker on Tatooine

[@ripgasbaron9716]

Vader: "I killed Kenobi." Sidious: "Good...good, my apprentice..." Vader: "Yeah, it was only weird that he dissapeared as I was to deliver the killing blow. I neve..." Palpatine: "thIS NIGGA WHAT?!"

[@ystan8458]

He became one with the force

[@NFSCarbonGaming]

I am still confused as to why Darth Vader seems to be clueless as to Jedi because a force ghost but in the last episode of the Clone Wars after Yoda competed his training with The Wills, they tell Yoda to teach Anakin (they said Skywalker).

[@KingofMk98]

Because Yoda doesn’t teach Anakin.

[@RedShirtRemyStarship]

Okay is anyone noticing the under robe is over the chest plate on Darth Vader? It was under it right? Why is it shown draped over the armor?

[@trentweston8306]

If Vader had have told Palpatine I wonder what Palpatine would have done and thought.

[@bruceknapp8170]

Anakin saw Qui Gon on Mortis. And was aware that Yoda was hearing qui gon, and helped Yoda escape the temple.

[@vCLOWNSHOESv]

When you find a guy missing an arm and both legs, burned to a crisp, you don't ask him where the other guy went. It's obvious he left his ass for dead and took off without leaving a forwarding address.

[@LEXICON-DEVIL]

Next video on why Vader's saber went through the robes without burning it as Obi-Wan disappeares lol

[@holysaintknight343]

Yes that's a fair question. I too would have been unable to report Sidius this.

[@WunderChancellor]

How To Disappear Completely - Thommy-Wan-Kenobi

[@mannybruce8950]

Vader had a dull lightsaber because it didn't even cut the robe .