Hi all. This episode was late (and less animated) than usual because Final Cut Pro decided it wanted to die and so I had to delete all of my current ongoing projects (yay!). Next week's episodes will be: 'Did Appeasement work?' and 'How did Ethiopia stay independent during the Scramble for Africa?'.
@statson22215 жыл бұрын
Please make video about battle under Grunwald and First Toruń peace
@milanskrbic51885 жыл бұрын
Where’s orthodox video?
@AllahCat78895 жыл бұрын
nice
@garrettwhillwick5 жыл бұрын
Hm, neat.
@franciscomm76755 жыл бұрын
Could you end the british series?
@heronb.49655 жыл бұрын
*reads title* *opens EU4* time to change history again
@alexander10555 жыл бұрын
Introducing: Turkish Mexicans
@richardalex45165 жыл бұрын
The horror... The horror...
@ivanf.4825 жыл бұрын
Ahahhaahahahahahah
@baron_xd46335 жыл бұрын
@@alexander1055 lmaooo
@sanadedixeptar52145 жыл бұрын
Let me just make ottoman texas so i can shout Allahu yeehaw at home
@theyoungottoman35335 жыл бұрын
California? More like Caliph-ornia.
@NRooster4 жыл бұрын
-_-
@basedandcringepoliticalcat47074 жыл бұрын
Ironic how California means Land of the Caliphs.
@antiochusiiithegreat77214 жыл бұрын
@@basedandcringepoliticalcat4707 No that's a popular misconception. It was named by the Spanish Conquistadors after a mythical paradise Island called califia that was written about in a Spanish romance which was popular at the time.
@koatam4 жыл бұрын
@@antiochusiiithegreat7721 Yeah, they originally thought California was an island. If you discovered the California peninsula first, then you might think that.
@vinkhe8614 жыл бұрын
@@koatam Baja California? I guess that would seem like an island if you hadn't discovered the northern areas connecting it.
@AndinoKiwi5 жыл бұрын
The main idea behind Columbus first voyage was to find a western sea route to the East Indies (India and southeastern Asia), because the historical route was no longer available to the Europeans after the rise of the Ottoman empire. The Ottomans, of course, had no problems getting access to the spices from the East Indies, and, therefore, seeking a new route was totally unnecessary to them. Once everyone understood that a new continent had been discovered, and the potential economic benefit of getting access to it, it was probably too late for the Ottomans to attempt anything on the Americas.
@helstromh2 жыл бұрын
The English didn't start colonization of the Americas until after 100 years. Jamestown was the first British colony in 1607. Heck, Russia didn't colonize Alaska until 1741, almost 250 years after discovery of the new world. That gave the Ottomans a LOT of time to make a decision. As specified in the video, I believe they did not see much profit, as pushing towards the West (i.e. Morocco) would be a lot of effort for a small gain. Also the East route to the Americas was actually more difficult, as the Northern currents threw ships into the coast of Alaska, the "central" currents would pull them into turbulent waters in the open seas of the Pacific, while the Southern currents would have probably gotten them to Australia first.
@zazugee2 жыл бұрын
@@helstromh they were busy trying to protect the territories they had
@ABRAK-g7s2 жыл бұрын
It is true that Columbus did not discover it but rather killed its inhabitants who lived there for thousands of years and certainly there were civilizations
@glorght2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Piri Reis *best sailor of the Ottomans* reached America, made a map including Antartica, Argentina, Columbia and even Chile coast. Drawed some of the benefits like masked mans *ritualistic people*. But then he died and you know Turks are not that hood at preserving their history so a lot of Turks didin't even know this map
@lordloss33982 жыл бұрын
@tuana could no longer steal resources drom other states
@Umut_91824 жыл бұрын
Oh pls. Ottomans are already so powerfull i can't even imagine them with American colonies in Eu4 Edit: Not anymore. Thx to paradox, they can't even expand into Aq qoyunlu now
@Flash4ML4 жыл бұрын
I knew as soon as I clicked this video that there would be Eu4 all over the comments lol
@eb12474 жыл бұрын
Were powerful...
@baranjan69694 жыл бұрын
If they werent thst powerful why arent they dead when other powerful countries teamed against them even when thry werent working on military And they were against people who used war crimes?
@Flash4ML4 жыл бұрын
baran jan what are you trying to say? I don’t understand
@firehawk85214 жыл бұрын
What's EU4
@Beyonder19874 жыл бұрын
Ottoman Sultan: We just wanted europeans to move to new world so we can take Europe for ourselves
@yepyeniceri4 жыл бұрын
We dont care europe too much even they tried to colonize other countries because their lands dont have material, good climate :D And we are in anatolia and our land was central asia you ignorant your leader rome's lands.
@dayift23874 жыл бұрын
@@jackjft9654 lol at the austria war we only lost too little Land
@biliminsrlar57524 жыл бұрын
@@jackjft9654 Anatolia isn't a desert lmao.
@mlk33274 жыл бұрын
@@jackjft9654 Turkey does not have deserts
@mehmetbahadryildirim32064 жыл бұрын
@@jackjft9654 ignorant shit, lol :d
@attempt50743 жыл бұрын
Chile: coasts are the best Ottoman empire: *I know*
@elemparador3 жыл бұрын
And Roma cuz Roma's and Ottoman's borders are similar
@arolemaprarath66152 жыл бұрын
@@elemparador Ottoman Empire is a failed imitation of Byzantine Greek Empire. Btw, Byzantines lasted for 1,000 years, longer than most empire in the world.
@elemparador2 жыл бұрын
@@arolemaprarath6615 failed? I wouldn't say failed for 600 years. They fought against crusaders if they were Christian they may even establish The Roman Empire.
@arolemaprarath66152 жыл бұрын
@@elemparador Ottoman Empire was blessed by their geography. No nearby powers were strong enough to break into their geographic barrier but believe me, if France or Britain were next door of the Ottomans, that failed Byzantine-like empire wont last for 300 or even 200 years. Most likely to exist around 100 years or less.
@aybaradlg91912 жыл бұрын
@@arolemaprarath6615 You know it is harder to keep an Empire alive in modern times? In Byzantine case, approximately for one thousand years what did the world gain both by technologically and culturally? I am not trying to defend the Ottoman Empire but Ottoman Empire was founded in 1299. It was founded in middle age time and one way or another endure till the 20th century until the year 1922 to be precise. It is way harder with colonial and strong empires like Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Russia etc. There was a lot of enemies for the Ottomans. The world was rapidly improving. Ottoman Empire had witnessed the radical changes of military technology. They had witnessed the revolutional cultural changes like French Revolution and Renaissance. 622 years does not seem like a failure to me actually. And when i think about the Byzantines, most of their lifetime was in constant decline, rapidly losing lands and reputation to both Seljuk Turks and Arabs (Muslims) and European monarchs (Christians). I'd like to remind you the Latin Invasion in the beginning of 13th century way before their complete annexation by the Ottoman Empire in 1453 precisely 250 years ago. After the beginning of 18th century Ottoman Empire also couldnt hold on against the modern European Empires, especially after the 1789 corruption and downfall of the Ottomans increased. But again i must remind you, it is way easier to keep a state alive in old times when the value of 50 years technology had been invented in 500 years time.
@JHohenhauser5 жыл бұрын
*laughs in Ottoman Alaska*
@degistirmelutfen5 жыл бұрын
*laughs in United States Of Ottomans*
@aqimjulayhi87985 жыл бұрын
Eskimottoman
@nytrex_yt74175 жыл бұрын
**laughs in ottoman mexico**
@nytrex_yt74175 жыл бұрын
Kingdom Of Yugoslavia Mapping **laughs in ottoman california**
@anthonyc41385 жыл бұрын
@@Invincible1356 hahahahha
@ironmantis254 жыл бұрын
So the Ottomans were Blockbuster And Spain was Netflix
@zxera97024 жыл бұрын
Wrong comparisn.Ottomans outlasted Spain and their "empire".
@jeanbethencourt15064 жыл бұрын
@@zxera9702 surviving as a vassal isn't really "outlasting". For example, during most the 1900's Britain has been a vassal to the US. Officially they had an empire until HK was handed over but in practice they were a US satellite.
@zxera97024 жыл бұрын
@@jeanbethencourt1506 Ottomans weren't vassals tho but they were very weak towards the end.
@SousukeAizen4214 жыл бұрын
@@zxera9702 ottomans are british vassal, the british only kept them alive to halt Russian Domination on the warm seas and to protect their indian trade routes and colonies there, british confinticate the most richest and vital lands are cyprus and egypt while the worthless rest are used as a buffer zones agains russians(im talking about anatolian and constatinople, which is a worthless city by that time)
@zxera97024 жыл бұрын
@@SousukeAizen421 No lol ottomans weren't a vassal,do you even know what a vassal is?
@Vikanjr5 жыл бұрын
They colonized Australia! Haven’t you played EU4?
@YuiFunami5 жыл бұрын
mamluks tend to do that way too much in my games
@Vikanjr5 жыл бұрын
Yui Funami yeah, depends on how long they survive.
@EmpireTVDragon5 жыл бұрын
It is usually the Portuguese for me
@YuiFunami5 жыл бұрын
if ottos expand too slowly and mamluks eats up arabia they can beat ottos sometimes
@EmpireTVDragon5 жыл бұрын
@@YuiFunami But I usually colonize anyways, no matter what country I play as. Even as Russia or Ottomans. Its good to get some extra gold by colonising Mexico, or have some extra colonises with almost little to no effort. Which could help you in war later.
@rfij32685 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ i have this question on my mind since i played Age Of Empires III...
@darnit19445 жыл бұрын
Ottomans cant train pikemen from barracks. That's why they lost.
@joostfrank1525 жыл бұрын
@@darnit1944 jesus true 😂
@MsAkbar145 жыл бұрын
Ma boi Ottoman didn't crave america land, they only care to destroy fountain of youth
@insaneweasel15 жыл бұрын
@@darnit1944 they have OP Jan rush they dont need no stinking pikes
@__prometheus__5 жыл бұрын
Same dude I’ve been thinking for years 😂
@arkadiuszjuszczak5655 жыл бұрын
Becouse they didn't pick colonization ideas.
@Miquelalalaa5 жыл бұрын
No? Explain their massive empire then...
@yannick48955 жыл бұрын
@@Miquelalalaa expansionist
@yarpen265 жыл бұрын
@The Flying Dutchman Technically, there is zero difference, it's just that we've gotten used to thinking that if there is at least a somewhat big body of water between the occupying power and the occupied, then it's something different from a regular subjugated territory. If the Ural were a sea rather than a mountain range, we would see Siberia as Russia's colony either.
@tareke5865 жыл бұрын
yarpen26 war between equals - conquest War between Stone Age and modern people - colonization
@unknowndane47545 жыл бұрын
@@yarpen26 I think op was making a eu4 reference where you unluck idea groups and only exploration and expansion gives you a "colonist" which is needed for taking colonizing the Americas
@ElladanKenet4 жыл бұрын
Paradox Games aside, I think the biggest issue with t he Ottomans was that they were simply too busy. Maintaining the trade network, fighting rivals, keeping things together. That's a lot of work. Spain, without having to worry about most of that, was able to easily redirect efforts to other ventures. Not to mention geography helped.
@rahileshanbi55512 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention their geographic location... But you did. So yeah, you're very correct actually.
@StudSupreme2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Spain was in the thick of European politics and wars. They had LOTS to concern them, no less than the Ottomans. Same for Portugal and Holland.
@ElladanKenet2 жыл бұрын
@@StudSupreme They had concerns, sure, but not enough to stop them from looking for colonies.
@gustavosanches34542 жыл бұрын
@@StudSupreme while Spain did have its own array of problems it wasn't near as bad as the Ottomans though. Spain mostly had to deal with enemies such as France and it was powerful enough to match it and it had a geographical advantage. Meanwhile the Ottomans had fierce competition from all around its position in the world, not to mention the fact it was mostly conquering lands from other religions which adds a whole different issue to its imperial maintenance.
@TheHigherSpace2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Tunisia, and as you can see in the map shown multiple times in this video, the north part looks like it doesnt belong to anyone, yes it was independant, but a big part of our history was that Spain invaded, then the ottomans took it back, then spain came back again, then again the ottomans, and so on .. All of this to say that Spain and The ottomans were very much at war and in a big conflict in the mediterranean all the time. they even used proxy pirate forces against each other.
@meandmetoo84365 жыл бұрын
It's obvious when you play EU4. Colonial range, and conquering is generally more efficient.
@blafoon935 жыл бұрын
Especially with the core cost reduction of the Ottoman national ideas. Still a colonizing Ottoman campaign might be interesting. Early game might be challenging, consider the border gore atrocities you would have to commit to quickly gain access to the Atlantic cost.
@blkgardner5 жыл бұрын
The Mamluks normally colonize in the Indian Ocean, Indonesia, Australia, and into the south Pacific. The Ottomans occasionally take some of those provinces, and so take expansion or exploration ideas. The border gore to get the Americas would not be that bad, the Ottomans would simply need to coastline hop along the coast of North Africa until they get a province in Morocco, then head to the Americas.
@CB04085 жыл бұрын
Yes, EU4. The game that gives Ming California every time I play it.
@WG555 жыл бұрын
The simple answer is that Ottoman Ideas aren't as good for colonization. 😆
@ilhamrizki40115 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but in My Naples Colonial Campaign. Turkish Mexico and Turkish Australia Created by the Ottomans.
@-Faris-5 жыл бұрын
*Mamluks:* * laugh in Australian *
@XXVIMurat4 жыл бұрын
Some eu4 problems
@oppenheimer20054 жыл бұрын
Arent Mamluqs who destroyed Ghenghis Khan?
@Vebian4 жыл бұрын
eu4 lol
@rohatb4 жыл бұрын
Mamluks: Haha exploration ideas go brrr
@ancientwarrior34824 жыл бұрын
@@oppenheimer2005 no one destroyed Ghengis Khan
@MayDayMei984 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they'd settled Cuba first and it was just Island Turkey.
@themaximum973 жыл бұрын
That would have been fun to watch. A majority Muslim country right at the US’s doorstep spreading their influence all throughout Central America and the Caribbean.
@ddc29573 жыл бұрын
Yeah there aren’t enough people in the world holding up a child molester as their idol IMO.
@MonsieurWeevil3 жыл бұрын
Muslim communists? O boy.
@augustuzmoon38143 жыл бұрын
@@MonsieurWeevil OH YES!!!
@filmmaniacgaming3 жыл бұрын
@@MonsieurWeevil The turkic countries were Muslim and communist the best example is Kazakhstan
@Armorius21995 жыл бұрын
When is the video about the Orthodox view of the Protestant reformation coming?
@loganfannin12385 жыл бұрын
Argyrus 47 that’s a dope idea
@martinrdh965 жыл бұрын
Lolwut
@johnerrol38135 жыл бұрын
HERESY!
@duh_istine5 жыл бұрын
"From 1576 to 1581 he (Constantinople Pateiarch Jeremias II) conducted the first important theological exchanges between Orthodoxy and Protestants. On 24 May 1575, Lutherans Jakob Andreae and Martin Crusius from Tübingen presented the Patriarch with a translated copy of the Augsburg Confession. Jeremias II wrote three rebuttals known as 'Answers,' which established that the Orthodox Church had no desire for reformation. The Lutherans replied to the first two letters, but the third letter ended in a deadlocked disagreement between the parties. The significance of the exchanges were that they presented, for the first time in a precise and clear way, where the Orthodox and Reformation churches stood in relation to each other."
@brandonlyon7305 жыл бұрын
The Orthodox Russian Empire also got involved in the 30 years by sending troops to the Protestant side as well as the Muslim Ottoman Empire. Though it was more to screw over the Austrian Von Hasburgs then anything to do with religion. Same as France who were Catholic but joined up with the Protestant side of the war.
@rundownthriftstore5 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? My EU4 playthrough taught me that the Ottomans colonized the Indonesian Archipelago and East Africa
@eretna24805 жыл бұрын
it is true but not in the name of "colonization"
@jorgeshaft14835 жыл бұрын
No, those are always the Mamluks. They go there before the Ottomans devour them ^^
@rundownthriftstore5 жыл бұрын
Jorge Shaft in my experience the Ottos chase the Mamluks across the damn world and take ALL their shit. It’s always the Ottos and Ming fighting a 5 million man war over Christmas Island.
@NRooster5 жыл бұрын
Also Iceland
@St-fr2kv5 жыл бұрын
Otoman is not colonized all of Indonesia Region Ottoman is just Colonized in Sumatera Island👍
@teixeira4765 жыл бұрын
Ottomans: I'm gonna control the spice trade and become extremely wealthy Portugal: _stop right there_
@biliminsrlar57524 жыл бұрын
Netherlands: *hello there*
@SAMX49494 жыл бұрын
Oh if Vasco didnt land in Calicut.
@ElkaPME4 жыл бұрын
_Imma stop you right there_
@raisul_raj4 жыл бұрын
Duch: it's free real estate in Indian ocean .
@ezequiel7174 жыл бұрын
PORTUGAL CARALHOOO
@blazaybla224 жыл бұрын
One of the history professors in the masters program I was in told me that the amount of gold coming to Spain from the western hemisphere and flowing east was actually a major cause of destabilization due to insane inflation and contributed to the downfall of the Ottomans
@Cyricist0012 жыл бұрын
As a history teacher I can say the guy was wrong. Spain imported more silver than gold from the New World and traded that in Asia for gold at a favorable rate. And then they ruined their economy through inflation, it became much cheaper to import goods than to buy them locally...like the US did in the last fifty years.
@asoka77522 жыл бұрын
@@Cyricist001 wrong. Spain plundered a lot of gold from Aztec.
@Cyricist0012 жыл бұрын
@@asoka7752 And you base your assertion on?
@flammabletoast58202 жыл бұрын
@@asoka7752 wtf I was baffled when I read the original comment, now again reading yours, I’m very glad there’s a history teacher here because the myth that spain got gold from american tribes, is just that, a myth, people who lived there did not posses the technical requirements to mine for gold, it is infact true that they had a very small supply of gold that got washed to the river banks (as far as I know) and the story goes, they used that little amount of gold to plate and make some items which then misled the intruders to believe they indeed had way more gold, which they didn’t, the amount of gold they brought back couldn’t have ever progressed a whole ass country let alone a village
@asoka77522 жыл бұрын
@@flammabletoast5820 lie.
@metehanavcioglu97494 жыл бұрын
fun fact:Christopher Colombus wanted support and ships for exploring America from Ottoman Sultan Beyazid the 2. and he reject him
@yaslaan4 жыл бұрын
Funnier fact: He also rejected Leo da Vinci and his bridge plans for Golden Horn. I still wonder what Cem Sultan would do?
@yigithandilber55113 жыл бұрын
@Makber in that 4 years he gained xp and used them to max charisma so he could give some more points to persuasion
@unyoughtful3 жыл бұрын
How would they accept? Do you think that Ottomans would have any power in the new world, while they were already struggling in their own territory.
@yigithandilber55113 жыл бұрын
@@unyoughtful Cem, muhtemelen beyazittan daha iyi padişah olurdu.
Video 16. yüzyılda Osmanlının kabul edilebilir bir güçte olduğu Akdeniz bölgesini domine ettiğinden bahsedilerek başlanıyor. Osmanlının o devirde Akdenizden Cebeli Tarık boğazı aracılığı ile çıkmasının kolay olmadığı, halihazırda Hint okyanusuna kıyıları olsa bile Afrikanın çevresinden dolaşmak istemedikleri ve ekonomik olarak Amerikaya koloni kurmak için sebepleri olmadığı söyleniyor. Ardından Avrupa ülkelerinin konumundan dolayı Osmanlıya para kazandırmadan yeni Akdenizi kullanmadan ticaret yapabilme yolları aradıkları, Osmanlının ise yeni dünya yani Amerika kıtasının zenginliklerinden haberdar olmadığı, Kanuni ve sonrasında gelen padişahların kıtaya karşı ilgisiz kalırken batılı devletlerin özellikle İspanya ve Portekizin büyük sömürgelere ulaştığı anlatılıyor. Aynı zamanda Osmanlının kuzey Afrika üzerinden Cezayire uzanması, ve oradan Atlantik okyanusunu geçip Güney Afrika ve Karayiplere ulaşması beklendiği m bunun hiç gerçekleşmediği anlatılıyor. Zaten olayların devamında 17. yüzyılda Osmanlının yavaş yavaş yolunu kaybetmeye başladığına şahit olacağız.
@turkepic36373 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Turks called Peru "Hindi" turkey🦃 in Turkish. That would be extremely confusing.
@emirhan72313 жыл бұрын
Hi i am turk
@lejonlar19993 жыл бұрын
even this reply is confusing
@tomriskhatun81923 жыл бұрын
We call Turkey to India we say Hindistan which means the land of turkey 😂😂
@envinyatar57123 жыл бұрын
@@lejonlar1999 Yes, it is confusing. 😅 'Hindi' is Turkish for turkey the bird, and 'Hindistan' is India. In Portuguese, they call turkey 'peru' which is also a country's name in America whom they used to think India. There is another bird that resembles turkey; guinea fowl which is native to East Africa that was dominated by the Turkish Empire back then. And so, the Englishmen thought that the bird they find in the West Indies/America was the same the Turks used to sell them, thus they named it turkey. In Turkey, however; we were told that the Spaniards and the British had brought turkeys from India, and so we called them 'hindi'/Indian.
@abbad7073 жыл бұрын
Envinyatar LOL
@yrlikng57675 жыл бұрын
Ottomans wanted to conquer europe first xD
@PedroCruz-kl3vh5 жыл бұрын
@Easter Worshipper when
@eskihesap99855 жыл бұрын
@@jackjft9654 Dude calm down.
@jackjft96545 жыл бұрын
Akaat T how about no.
@eskihesap99855 жыл бұрын
@@jackjft9654 Ottoman dominance in balkans lasted pretty long.
@burhan4465 жыл бұрын
@@jackjft9654 aw did some one hurt your feelings
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un5 жыл бұрын
They didn’t colonize Korea either. We flexed on them from a far distance
@rens20305 жыл бұрын
Kim Jong-un no you nuked them stupid
@jonasb1045 жыл бұрын
@@rens2030 THAT IS flexing from a far distance. Like the USA and the USSR flexed on each other from far away 50 years.
@rens20305 жыл бұрын
Jonas Brauer oh than i’m stupid
@LEO_M15 жыл бұрын
Jonas Brauer You know that the U.S. and Russia almost touch, right?
@jonasb1045 жыл бұрын
@@LEO_M1 Yes, in Alaska. But as a german I look from europe right in the middle🙄😂
@Turgineer3 жыл бұрын
British Empire: Let's attack weak countries. Otto-man Empire: Let's attack the strongest countries.
@akashrav56572 жыл бұрын
The opposite
@Turgineer2 жыл бұрын
@@akashrav5657 Again Britain Empire: Attacking the natives using spears with weapons.
@RichieRich48342 жыл бұрын
@@akashrav5657 go and bath in GANJ colonised indian
@asoka77522 жыл бұрын
@@Turgineer They still do the same thing.
@cazwalt90132 жыл бұрын
That's literally the opposite
@timurmetesoy81415 жыл бұрын
Real Ottoman : How many colonies i have ? Eu4 Ottoman : YES !
@xM0nst3Rx3 жыл бұрын
Real fact tho: Ottoman or any other Turk governments never colonised anywhere. Sure, they conquered other's lands but never colonised. They didn't force their own culture or language on them. They left them to themselves as long as they paid their taxes. (And they never really paid more taxes than the Turkish folk did. We still do pay taxes [there is even tax of tax!], believe me.)
@xtron12343 жыл бұрын
@@xM0nst3Rx Tell that to the Anatolians
@confusion96083 жыл бұрын
@@xtron1234 We are Anatolians
@beypazarlordu3 жыл бұрын
@@xtron1234 ye im from turkish and im not likeing erdogan wait more like taxdogan(I can go silivri for saying this but anyway)
@kaganduman23453 жыл бұрын
@@beypazarlordu bruh
@cahilbukucu4585 жыл бұрын
Ottoman's nayy created to be strong in inland sea(mediterranean), those ships can't stand long in oceans. With such navy tradition you can't win a single battle in open seas as they didn't.
@adriancampos86403 жыл бұрын
Yes, galleys aren't suited for that.
@adriancampos86403 жыл бұрын
@USERZ123 Yes, it's true that the ottomans could have found a way, but it's also true that the europeans had better hull desings. The galleys used in the mediterranean by the ottomans weren't as robust structurally as european ships of the same period, so the ottomans would have had to develop a ship similar to a cog or a caravel without the precedent of the vikings (who made small but strong ships).
@sleepforever3 жыл бұрын
Glad the Turks/Ottomans didn't find the new world!!! I would hatebto be Muslim. Islam would just crush our culture ... Never!! Thanskt the Europeans found us
@erx20433 жыл бұрын
@@sleepforever dude what are you talking about, Ottomans NEVER DID IMPERIALISM which means you would have kept your language & your religion like every country in the Ottoman empire had. The Greeks still speak Greek & are still Christian, so are all the Balkan countries (still speak their own languages & practice their own religions). Ottoman's never did colonialism & Ottoman's never did imperialism because it never was in its interest & it never will be. This is why the power that Turkey is creating right now will not involve those things either. This video did not properly describe the reasons as to why Ottoman's didn't colonize. There are other, actual strategic reasons
@space21473 жыл бұрын
@@sleepforever What are you talking about? The Europeans crushed the Indigenous culture of the Americas.
@favorius5 жыл бұрын
When Ottomans were powerful the economic value of Americas was not high enough to justify investment from their own view point. That is building an ocean going navy, acquiring bases along coasts of Atlantic, fortifying and manning them while being at constant war with Spain. When economic value of Americas proved critical, Ottomans had already lost their steam and they had to content a growing Russia while modernizing their country which continues till today. Ottomans lacked a bourgeoise class like in Europe. While we can trace roots of capitalism in Europe back to 13th century, Ottomans had a moral and command economy. So a bourgeoise class that seeks profit around the globe pushing their ruling elite to colonialism and sharing bounty was not present in Ottoman society. Even France, that does not have to pass a hostile Gibraltar, being thousands km closer to Americas than Ottomans failed to compete with the British and Spanish.
@amirashraf64224 жыл бұрын
@@Wambitisdabest yes, prior to establishment of European style banks in the Ottoman state. For example Islamic-based economy prohibits exploitation like interests in loans. Capitalism itself is alien in the muslim world back then.
@amirashraf64224 жыл бұрын
@@Wambitisdabest Slavery was commonplace at that time. But slavery+capitalism is much worse. You dont see gigantic plantations like in the confederate states in the muslim world back then. They remain 'backward' because their economy is not like europe.
@melchid84484 жыл бұрын
@@Wambitisdabest Slavery meant many things throught the history so a Roman Slave a Transatlantic slave and an Ottoman Slave was very different things. In South America and in Confedaracy slaves were basically unpaid workers who worked until death because they were seen as replacable. In Ottoman Empire killing or harming your slave was frowned upon and they werent allowed to work overtimes. Along with that many rich people tried to buy and release many slaves as possible because it was practised by Prophet Muhammad. And the work they done was respectable jobs like in the case of Janissaries many slaves had higher status than common people they served in military,in goverment jobs and in judical works. In short the "slaves" that Ottomans used was like modern butlers(maybe) they were provided a life but the only difference between a butler and slave was a slave wasnt allowed to leave his post.
@melchid84484 жыл бұрын
@@Wambitisdabest You are still looking from a proto-industrial standpoint you should change your lenses to a pre industrial one because before we got machines the only way to maintain an empire was using "Extensive Laborers" but how this laborers were treated is what made the definitions of slave-serf-servant. So yes being a servant was not okay by todays standart but that was what we had to and Ottomans treated their laborers best when compared to their European counterparts.
@TheMarusero4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, cuz the world has enough of Islam, we are lucky to be safe here in the other side of the ocean
@TugiDeg Жыл бұрын
Ottoman Empire also saw "Colonizing" as "looting". And due to religion, looting was seen as thievery and therefore a great sin. Ottoman Empire wasn't too keen on breaking religious beliefs although for some exceptions which were thought to be FOR religion. I believe they were only able to take and conquer places (without invading them) via declaring war of some sort. Otherwise it was seen as "being an asshole" and taking people's houses without telling them is a sin.
@Ahmadnj Жыл бұрын
I agree
@losidiomas81359 ай бұрын
@TugiDeg You are wrong!I am Georgian and we Georgians had many battles with them.They had always been invading my country.They invaded and conquered western Georgia and they had been kidnapping girls and boys in order to sell them as slaves and make janissaries and sultan's concubines from them!The Ottomans invaded other European countries and kidnapped young people who were sold by them as slaves!
@PhyrexJ9 ай бұрын
All the while they were doing things their religion condemned. Oh, the hypocrisy.
@KhalilLuciferAugustus9 ай бұрын
Well it's complicated like ROME witch had the same believe that their gods would grant them victory if their war was justified but justified is really open to interpretation I mean was Caesar justified in conquering Gaul not really neither did the Ottomans
@asdf333958 ай бұрын
That's a silly way of looking at it, colonization is just the act of controlling an indigenous population by another state for it's self-interests. Just as the europeans saw and justified their colonization of others as civilizing mission, the ottomans justified their invasion of their neighbours on their neighbours because they could and in the case of the balkans because they followed the 'right' religion. There was no moral opposition because they were already engaged in empire building and had a long history of slavery. As said in the video the main reason they didn't colonise the americas/southern africa was because they didn't need to.
@hando48805 жыл бұрын
Actually the Ottomans frequently sent muslim missionaries and later expeditionary forces eastward toward indian ocean,rather than west.ottomans did a great work helping small muslim state such as Aceh in sumatra,Gujatat in india,and demak in Java in order to fight the huge colonialist power at that time (portugese and spainaards).
@alifoemry52175 жыл бұрын
Salladin yes its true. ottoman help kingdom in sumatera and java to fight europe colonization.
@turkerturksever5 жыл бұрын
please explain more Salladin
@MM-xm5vx5 жыл бұрын
They also helped Somali king doms
@hjs80924 жыл бұрын
And they lost and lost and lost against the portuguese...
I really love how accurate you go with the customs of cat characters even with some minor ones, this is us some details I really love to pay attention to
@AlexKomnenos5 жыл бұрын
Ottoman zenith was Suleyman the Magnificent’s reign in the mid 1500s. After that it was a slow decline. Europe had the printing press, the Renaissance, the Reformation and unmatched naval power in Spain, Portugal, England and Netherlands. Not to mention the battle of Lepanto checked any further Ottoman advance in the Mediterranean. The Ottomans however had countless natural resources across the empire so there was little need.
@willfakaroni5808 Жыл бұрын
That’s somewhat of an outdated view, the ottoman decline didn’t really begin until about the second half of the 1700’s, they were still winning wars with Europeans, more technologically advanced then Russia, and still became rich from the trade routes, which many people forget went in both directions
@Nicolas_II Жыл бұрын
@@willfakaroni5808 Austrians and Russia just bullied ottomans after the 1500's they weren't really winning against the Europeans
@samgone37027 ай бұрын
Yes. I am NOT a historian. BUT the greatest territorial expansion of the EMPIRE was NOT even reached until 1683, so how can you say it declined after the mid-1500s??? Doesn't make sense for you to say that.
@melih87624 жыл бұрын
Europeans did find America because of them.
@nemalmacihazlari84794 жыл бұрын
Ottomans haven’t big ships, thats way they cant research on the sea. dont forget it
@melih87624 жыл бұрын
Andromalius they haven’t needed to have, so. they were the biggest power on mediterranean sea and have had the most power on silk road. by the way, smaller ships are more effective in seas. countries like uk, france must have needed to build bigger ships thanks to oceans. if ottomans would’ve wanted to sail to the west, they could have. because they’ve had the most qualified engineers and the richest state chest at the start of the exploration era.
@melih87624 жыл бұрын
James Kong that still didn’t define the cause of the explorations. yes, they wanted to find new routes but why? that’s the question we need to ask. history needs deep thinking and making keen cause and effect relation.
@ppap98184 жыл бұрын
@@江俊杰-g9c it was leif erikkson actually
@nemalmacihazlari84794 жыл бұрын
@@melih8762 yes you say will be truths, I am trying to say something similar to you. Ottomans haven't big ships because they couldn't need it, thats way they not make big ships. Dont forget, big ships is more powerfull research on the big ocean and most strong than little ships.
@andriyg12445 жыл бұрын
Main problem of everybody on the European continent in medieval ages: HABSBURGS.
@wanderingrandomer5 жыл бұрын
Also dying from Plague.
@jonatanlj7475 жыл бұрын
Seems more like a renaissance thing
@Jose-xh5qb5 жыл бұрын
@@jonatanlj747 The Renaissance was part of the Middle Ages. The Middle Ages refered to a time in Europe from the collapse of the Western Roman Empire to the 1500s.
@DarDarBinks19865 жыл бұрын
Feudalism in general. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING AND WHY? Why couldn't medieval people just be communists instead? Seize the means of production from the nobles and Church!
@y.ciftci98095 жыл бұрын
They were frickin' everywhere
@BALLARDTWIN5 жыл бұрын
Research the ethio- adal war in the horn of Africa and the Swahili coast They really did try and break the portuguese monopoly in the Indian ocean But it failed However the portuguese also tried to capture the horn of Africa coast from the somali which also failed horribly after they were defeated and a joint ottoman-somali attack recaptured the Kenyan coastal cities of lamu, pate and mombasa The portuguese immediately sent for reinforcements from India and recaptured the taken cities brutally punishing it's Swahili inhabitants for helping the ottomans and somalis Alot more also happened there's an entire campaign that took place Notable leaders involved were: Piri reis Cristavao de gama (son of the famed vasco de gama) Imam ahmed gurey Tristao de cunha Emir Nur Ibn mujahid Emperor Dawit II Emperor Geledewos Read over it it's kinda interesting
@EDCHlNA5 жыл бұрын
That campaign ended with the execution of cristavo de gama, him and the abyssinian lost the war, and their dominance on the indian ocean suffered,
@BALLARDTWIN5 жыл бұрын
@@EDCHlNA Technically no Even though somalis adopted a ottoman styled currency to have economic independence from the portuguese monopoly It still took a hard hit from portuguese dominance Goa was under portuguese control and so was Macau Shit didn't change for anyone And by the time it did Ottoman were extremely behind in technology and somalis themselves were not only extremely behind in tech but also divided into more then 5 different states Easy pickings for the Brits and Italians
@BALLARDTWIN5 жыл бұрын
@Hasan Cihat Örter'i Eleştirmeyi Severim Yes but suleiman abandoned the war effort after the capture of the Swahili coast by the portuguese and ottoman influence and naval power in the Indian ocean was horrible by the time 70 years had past and we were nearly 1660-70 ottomans had their own issues in the Balkans with a rising russia and also the safavids Portugues only kept getting stronger all the way till 1800 They dominated the Indian ocean And along came British east Indian company And dutch empire And also French Before we knew it they were already landing on our shores lol
@BALLARDTWIN5 жыл бұрын
@Hasan Cihat Örter'i Eleştirmeyi Severim Oh they weren't, they were actually very powerful and more superior than most of the world They just didn't have the desire to continue the war in the Indian ocean for some reason If they had ottoman dominance would have reached India And mughals would gave lasted alot longer Bab al mandeb trade routes would have made Egypt super rich like Ptolemy Egypt
@kesorangutan61705 жыл бұрын
Dude you have the best nickname
@emreaydn63815 жыл бұрын
If the Ottomans did colonialism. The whole of Greece, some parts of africa and east europa would speak Turkish. Because we was controlled in the peace this areas 400-500 years
@xernobell78455 жыл бұрын
dude even turkey doesn't speak turkish
@emreaydn63815 жыл бұрын
@@xernobell7845 what is the main language in Turkey 😂
@xernobell78455 жыл бұрын
@@emreaydn6381 i meant to tell u that the ottmans language different from nowadays turkish
@xernobell78455 жыл бұрын
@ADGamer not the same the english and the french didn't have a radical changes the turkish was written in an arabic letters
@andreamarino60105 жыл бұрын
Western Anatolia, Pontus, Armenian Highlands, Armenia Minor, East Tharce didn't speak turkiah. I guess somehow they colonised
@tompurcell1499 Жыл бұрын
In an ironic twist, and bizarre as it seems, given that the Ottoman Caliphate ended in 1924, etymologically speaking, and based on a story called Exploits of Explandian by Garcia Rodriguez de Montalvo, California might well be the world’s only surviving ‘Caliphate’.
@abraxasee8946 Жыл бұрын
What?
@triangulartriangle9604 Жыл бұрын
California's name comes from the word "Caliph" + is or something. This is in homage to their supposed Caliph, which along with the island of California was a hoax.
@triangulartriangle9604 Жыл бұрын
*ia, not is
@niggalini Жыл бұрын
@@triangulartriangle9604yeah, the mythical island of California in Las Sergas de Esplandian, ruled by the character "Calafia", the Muslim Queen of that mythical island
@bigalmou2261 Жыл бұрын
No wonder california sucks lmao
@gian0giorg5 жыл бұрын
A major point about why they didn't even try to, is the fact that the ottoman empire (like the byzantine empire in the past) was not only conservative but also highly centralized. It had to be a sultan's wish to do it but taking risks was not even remotely in their culture.
@Alamyst2011 Жыл бұрын
Independent thought and action could be harshly punished. Losing or Winning a battle could easily punished. Very strange times.
@Turunc_eren5 жыл бұрын
Additionally, Ottoman ships was not suitable in ocean.
@juandavidrestrepoduran60075 жыл бұрын
Teom Cam building, per se, not quite until very late. Buying them from the French, more probably
@Darknight734575 жыл бұрын
@Teom Cam Japannese from xv century wanted that kind of boats and no european power sold them.
@adib45734 жыл бұрын
@@Darknight73457 did you know Turkish architect dominated the world for centuries if they wanted they could build themselves they were pretty ahead on science before around 1700th centuries until they started having chaos and the empire started collapsing
@jdumpingplace25174 жыл бұрын
@@adib4573 another turkish ottoman propaganda. if they can why didn't they do it after lepanto and their whole fleet was destroyed?
@adib45734 жыл бұрын
@@jdumpingplace2517 yeah propaganda indeed If I hadn't seen myself . They didn't for multiple reasons firstly their geography , they were more of a land based empire and used water only for movement and didn't keep strong hold of it thus making heavy ships was unnecessary . And second colonization is basically looting and possibly Ottoman didn't want to do it because they were muslim , if they wanted to colonize they could have went to Africa too but keeping them under control would be hard thus they were more interested in expending on Eastern Europe and Asia . However Byzentine was in a wired position for a while they were in a peace agreement
@ARKOVZ5 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in EU4 you have the ottomans and mamluks colonizing... lmao
@maxbeckmann30635 жыл бұрын
Very rare, i just see them colonizing australia and taiwan for now
@rallis39375 жыл бұрын
I have seen an ottoman colony in america literally once in like 500 hours
@aidiero5 жыл бұрын
Playing as malaya, ottomans go east, cross the Pacific and colonize Argentina and alaska
@argaandri10775 жыл бұрын
It's always tunis and granada
@Ayasa.4 жыл бұрын
Actually, we're talking about the most glorious era of Ottoman. The biggest reason by far was Suleiman's indifference about new lands. Ottoman's navy was partly independent from army so it wouldn't affect that much their competition with Safavids or Habsburgs. Their navy was already strong asf thanks to Barbarossa, he almost never lost against Eurepean states in Mediterrenean. They also had no problem in terms of money to enhance the navy.
@mbern45302 жыл бұрын
That's the problem, he was good against the Mediterranean nations, but when the Portuguese showed up in the Indian ocean they changed naval warfare and the Ottomans could never really compete. They simply didn't have the ships for open ocean sailing and their tactics for dealing with the Italians were obsolete by the time the Portuguese and Spanish took over the oceans.
@ahmetturkmen00112 жыл бұрын
@@mbern4530 they did have the ships. There's similar videos talking about the ottomans having sail ships on par with the west, even the ottoman fleet sailing in open seas in the Indian Ocean, fighting agaisnt the Portuguese navy (in africa and east indies), even scoring victories there (also in the Mediterranean in the 16th and 17th century). But it was indifference and lack of vision that caused their downfall. Tldr: ottoman navy was sufficient, it just never sailed west.
@serhafiye70462 жыл бұрын
@@mbern4530 Wrong, because Ottomans had lands on Indonesia, fought in the ocean a lot also
@mbern45302 жыл бұрын
@@serhafiye7046 They lost to the Portuguese in almost every battle even when they had the superior numbers. Their cannons were so poor that Venice was helping them build modern weapons. The Ottomans just never had the ability to counter European powers when Europe built bigger ships. Just look at the battle of Lepanto where 3 or 4 large ships turned the tide of battle against them.
@hussainashraf5179 Жыл бұрын
@@mbern4530 ottomans fought all of eastern and central europe and thats a superpower unlike spain and.emglanx
@tedmiller2105 жыл бұрын
This would be a good alternate historical scenario.
@OTW184 жыл бұрын
Reality inspires Art
@samuelnewman29105 жыл бұрын
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@turkishboyMLT5 жыл бұрын
Amsterdami da al Samuyel bir gece ansızın coh hoştur red light 😂
@samuelnewman29105 жыл бұрын
@@turkishboyMLT 85 Amsterdam olsun o zaman hehe
@jamesharris31844 жыл бұрын
Texas şehir değil , 3 avrupa ülkesi büyüklüğünde bir eyalet.
@nazx29414 жыл бұрын
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@doroffixial4 жыл бұрын
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@_chew_4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Of course they did! The Ottomans went to the new world to stop the Circle of Ossus from gaining the fountain of youth.
@nohandsajkula58424 жыл бұрын
Nope, it was the spaniards
@rixille4 жыл бұрын
Nice obscure AOE III reference there.
@bariscan94413 жыл бұрын
A man of culture i see
@sheroxx37873 жыл бұрын
man of culture
@anillius47032 жыл бұрын
I remember having heard of a very notable ottoman historian saying the ottomans were not in building galleons but galleys. which were fine and manueverable in closed mediterranean sea, galleons are much resource intensive tall ships useful in high seas also there was the glory and status quo following grand sultans; the decadance and less competent sultans with little vision it should be expected at least to expand into indian coast and possibly to indonesian coastline after the success of new world expeditions
@alonsoquijano17312 жыл бұрын
Thats true. Ottomans couldnt compete against Portugals in Indian Ocean... They would not control america or south africa with those ships.
@ennui97458 ай бұрын
Exactly. Galleys, which are rowed, are cheap and effective in closed inland seas, but not effective in the open ocean. The Europeans came to dominate the seas more than anyone else because they eventually came to have the best tall ships in the world. As in EU4: galleys are cheap and have a combat bonus in coastal and inland waters, but will lose to galleons on the high seas.
@soapek79495 жыл бұрын
How about Italian incompetence in WW's?
@TheGM-20XX5 жыл бұрын
@nikolai bahtin Try try try again and if that fails try 9 more times.
@barraganimperator44205 жыл бұрын
@nikolai bahtin dont forget Caporetto
@reinatr48485 жыл бұрын
@@gigachonker69 They kinda were. They lost Veneto for 1 year.
@lesse46925 жыл бұрын
Probably because of italy at that time was a poor country and principally agricoltural
@Epir15 жыл бұрын
@nikolai bahtin Vittorio Veneto
@nikolasmccann34835 жыл бұрын
Wow I was just watching your videos and you just posted this.
@tsarnature65875 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow leader
@musikkritik63165 жыл бұрын
Wow
@odysseusrex59084 жыл бұрын
"Sheer tenacity and a disregard for established knowledge." I love it!
@ddc29573 жыл бұрын
Something Muslims cannot do.
@troglodyto3 жыл бұрын
so spain was sort of the silicon valley of the 16th century, with its crazy new ideas and venture capital backing columbus, etc.?
@dovahkiin33793 жыл бұрын
@@ddc2957 then explain advanced geometry, medicine, the first official police force in history, algorithms, chemistry, pioneering new Fields of knowledge such as algebra, sociology,optics, modern medicine and it's drug production, even the god damn modern scientific theory of experimental methodology which is the basis of nowadays research and discovery is considered by most historians as being pioneered by Muslim scientist Al-Hasan Ibn Al-Haythem The low levels that we muslims have reached today came about as a result of Western imperialism and colonization but it's not a definitive stat and definitely doesn't represent our history or what Islam stands for, I understand your hate as people fear what they don't understand and that fear can take the form of hate but I can't justify you speaking out of ignorance and attempting to share that with people
@ddc29573 жыл бұрын
Certainly I will. Heavy inbreeding takes a heavy toll. The further back in history you go, the less it’s obvious effects are felt. This much earlier Muslims were far smarter & more inquiry-inclined. But after 1400 years of first-cousins having children, the well-documented impacts of the practice have taken their fatal toll.
@dovahkiin33793 жыл бұрын
@@ddc2957 yeah I thought you were a bark but no bite, but you just confirmed it, you hate Islam and it's as simple as that, you've already disregarded your main point and jumped at your next insecurity, no need to try and throw some meaning to your second comment by adding "well documented" we both know no such documents exist as cousin marriage was not an abnormal thing for Muslims and not worth documenting it's incidents and definitely not for the low peasants and workers outside courts and castles so your "evidence" is a lie, not that you need one though, I feel no shame nor any concern to say that cousin marriage is permitted in Islam because it's not encouraged it's just permitted and genetics say that as soon as the next generation marries outside of cousins circle any chance of negative effects pervious marriages had will be nullified by the newly added and expanded Gene pool, the risks are also very low standing at right below 3% while not being encouraged that small chance is almost negligible, not to mention that most of pre-industrial human society, people didn't really know the world outside of their villages and the chance of marrying your cousin was pretty high, by that logic most of us humans are inbred(which is a fact to some extent as we all come from the same root... Adam & Eve) By the way 26 States of a total of 50 US federal states allow first cousin marriage
@c_chimba3 жыл бұрын
*Fact:* The Ottoman Empire almost made Brazil and Colombia into a Muslim Country *Brazil:* The Ottoman Empire was supporting the Yoruba people and the Hausa people, ethnic groups of Nigeria, who had been transported to Brazil and sold as slaves and invaded the State of Bahia, This is called the "Malê revolt", and it happened on a sunday, during Ramadan in 1835, then later it was suppressed by the Brazilian Army. *Colombia:* The Ottoman Empire, along with many Arabs, Lebanese, Israelis and many others, escaped from their homeland to South America, and this was not only the case of a foreign immigration, many Han Chinese, Manchu and Tibetians from the Qing Dynasty migrated to Colombia, the reason about it is because the government began oppressing the people and being persecuted, who forced many people to leave their homelands, to America.
@malusdacus54185 жыл бұрын
The Sultan: Let's play this colony game and send our soldiers far far away. The Balkans: Laughs in rebellion.
@AfghanHearts5 жыл бұрын
Malus Dacus balkan was literally under ottomen rule for 400 years. your comment doesn't make any sense
@jdumpingplace25174 жыл бұрын
@@AfghanHearts and they rebel all the time. ottoman just had more troops to throw to the rebellion and stop it
@jikong4145 жыл бұрын
Another thing to note. The ships that sailed the Mediterranean were not suitable for the atlantic and therefore would have resulted in a huge expediture
@whitenights45245 жыл бұрын
This is the most accurate comment.
@AverytheCubanAmerican5 жыл бұрын
Ottomans: To the Americas! Portuguese: How bout no....then he waddled away
@arifakyuz76735 жыл бұрын
TILL THE VERY NEXT DAY
@__prometheus__5 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@SM-ly5tf5 жыл бұрын
Waddle waddle
@whitenights45245 жыл бұрын
And you became their bitches
@engi62974 жыл бұрын
The fault is a little Suleiman's actually. He was a little egoist (which is pretty normal considering the lands you rule and the power you have) and he didn't want to work to colonise or discover new places because he thought it was unnecessary cause they already rule the world. Surely Suleiman and other governors by that time did not think about the future deeply. There was his son called Shezhade Mustafa. Everyone loved him, the Janissaries, other soldiers, people... He was very willing to conquer Atlantic ocean. He had innovative ideas for Ottomans xD. But his father was on the throne for so long time he could not make his ideas work (Mustafa was 40 by that time). And one day while Suleiman was on a campaign to Safavids he wanted to visit his father with his soldiers and wanted to join the war just like his other brothers. There are so many conspiracy theories about what I wright right now. Some says he was really coming to take the throne from his father some says not(I think not). Suleiman thought his son was coming to take his throne because he grew beard and he was coming with his loyal soldiers (Only sultans could grow beard in Ottoman's family. If you grow beard, means that you want the throne). And unfortunately because Suleiman was afraid of losing the throne to his son, he executed his son. Sure it was a very sad incident for Suleiman and he regret it. Mustafa's brother Cihangir died after a couple of months (or weeks I dunno exactly) because of sadness. But for the country, Sultans could do that. It wasn't about himself. It was about the Ottoman Empire. So after that Suleiman's other son II. Selim take the throne. He was not that effective as a Sultan. And the ideas of colonising and conquering Atlantic flew away with Mustafa. ;(
@crennips56694 жыл бұрын
He is called next to Sultan to be executed, he wasnt going to join the battle with his army. In fact, the pawns idk what its name the one closed by Mahmud II so as to make upgrades in army, warned about the consuquences of going next to Sultan and wanted him to go back but instead he went right next to his father and executed.
@mohsinwaqar12243 жыл бұрын
Yes honestly under Mustafa ottomans would've been way better than selim the drunk
@aaronTGP_3756 Жыл бұрын
Mustafa and Suleiman were never in good relations. Hence why Suleiman believed Vizier Rustem Pasha. Mustafa was also in conflict with Hurrem. I think Hurrem's eldest son, Mehmed, would be the better choice. Evliya Celebi described him as intelligent and had good judgement. Perhaps better so than Mustafa. He was Suleiman's favorite son as well (he was Suleiman's preferred heir).
@bruhbruh-us6gl Жыл бұрын
Turkish barbarism and stupidity naturally was the biggest obstacle between them and colonizing the New World
@aymanerazine7502 жыл бұрын
the ottomans always wanted to conquer morocco, but they couldn't, there's a large misconception that morocco wasn't strong at the time, in fact they were strong enough to keep the ottomans, spain and portugal away from their land (it's obvious when you think about it, why did the spanish and Portuguese conquer very distant lands when they could've token both the american lands and morocco)
@healthnature62402 жыл бұрын
In addition after discovering and colonizing far countries, Portugal tried to occupy morocco and were defeated in a famous battle called battle of three kings where Portuguese Sebastien 1st and many Italian, Flemish and German mercenaries were killed.
@aymanerazine7502 жыл бұрын
@@healthnature6240 exactly, and during the rule of saadis (same dynasty to kick all of the spanish, Portuguese and ottomans), they even expanded to the south and south east, and this is to narrow the siege on the Ottomans and prevent them from entering their country.
@cardozoluciano83622 жыл бұрын
And yet they still can't into Ceuta...
@mr.admr10163 жыл бұрын
1:20 U just described every single of my ottoman playthroughs in eu4
@aym.s58273 жыл бұрын
😂 yet you were too big of a coward to set foot on Moroccan ground. Everybody gangsta until imazighen arrive 🇲🇦ⵣ🦁💪🏻
@jimboonie98853 жыл бұрын
@@aym.s5827 U DICC
@aym.s58273 жыл бұрын
@@jimboonie9885 what’s it? Still mad? Yusen ikhan n ayyis
@essenceofenglish543 жыл бұрын
That is historically correct. Great job! I liked the video and subscribed already.
@chetbal4 жыл бұрын
When Ottomans finally had access to Red sea and later Persian sea, they were still prevented easy access to oceans as portuguese already colonized aden region and hormuz straits. Also they had to build a secondary navy from scratch, and it took many wars with portuguese to sail out to indian ocean. If Ottomans would manage to construct the suez channel back then, they would probably dominate the indian oceans with support of their main navy in meds.
@ArdaSReal Жыл бұрын
The suez canal wouldhave been a game changer in ottoman history, bringing them back into the center of the world, but it just never was realistic. It only happened with financing of other rich empires centuries later
@I_hu85ghjo Жыл бұрын
@@ArdaSReal and the fact that industrial equipment came up much later.
@marwansoliman5157 Жыл бұрын
The Suez canal would have been a disaster later
@seskal85955 жыл бұрын
You should probably not use the same colour for Aragon but other than that great video! Really interesting question as well
@Beyonder19874 жыл бұрын
The riches of America was the reason why Christian Europe became sucessfull than Muslim world. Discovery of America allowed the European nations ie Spain, Portuguese, Britian, France and Dutch so much wealth they invested in weapons, technology and the Navy. It also increased size of Christendom by 10 folds.
@tomphilips32664 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Before that Muslims were dominating the world.
@adriancampos86403 жыл бұрын
The europeans were already investing in weapons, but since they didn't have to deal with pesky nomad raiders, their army could focus into sheer firepower instead of mobility.
@syedkaleemullah49603 жыл бұрын
Nailed it!! Excellent work!
@abdo56155 жыл бұрын
They also had to deal with the constant revolts across their lands most significantly in Egypt when Mohammad Ali came around and even after his death.
@abdo56155 жыл бұрын
Broman by your flawless logic, the French and the Polish are traitors for resisting Nazi rule and they don’t deserve Germany on their side
@abdo56155 жыл бұрын
Broman okay bro we get that you’re a salty Turk lol calm down First of all, as far as I’m concerned at least, the French weren’t the ones being thrown in Aushwitz so it had nothing to do with the Jews so I’m not gonna talk about what happened in Armenia. Secondly, wtf? Civilization? Rights? Progress? Yeah in Anatolia and Istanbul maybe, but in the Arab world? What propaganda are you being fed? The Arabs were ruling themselves they literally could not have more rights than that. And what’s this about civilisation? If we’re talking about Egypt, the Levant and Iraq, you’d be fooling yourself thinking you brought civilisation to these areas. The Umayyad, Abbasids, Mamluks and countless others were there before you. We rebel because that’s what anyone with dignity does under foreign occupation. The Turks are not Arabs and the Arabs are not Turks. Also in the late period of Ottoman history their stagnation and corruption let the Arabs fall under European rule, province by province. Their entrance into WWI, a war that wasn’t theirs, caused Sykes-Picot and the formation of nation states that never existed. The Ottomans caused the divide of the Arabs and they, alongside the western powers, are to blame for the Middle East’s problems.
@shehryarashraf58405 жыл бұрын
@Broman liberty and freedom hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. joke of the year
@sandski51745 жыл бұрын
@Broman you go ahead and be proud abi. No worries
@thecrow98204 жыл бұрын
@Broman All of your sayings is actually false, and that's a propaganda.
@leontheprofessional72345 жыл бұрын
Ottoman never prefered to pick colonization as an ideas. They expanded their lands to let other people know Islam not to force them change their religions. Never tried to exploit and asimilate other nations. If they aim that they could do it because already had a power to do. They have been a superpower for 600 years over the world. If they prefer this way, hundreds milion people would speak Turkish rather than English or French in Africa, Asia, and Easten part of Europe.
@kayacenk41645 жыл бұрын
truth... and EU ppl still calling us as barbar.... in reality they are barbar we seen what they did in africa and still they using these countrys as slave..
@MrKresek4 жыл бұрын
Ya, this is right answered
@leontheprofessional72344 жыл бұрын
@@kayacenk4164 👍
@leontheprofessional72344 жыл бұрын
@@MrKresek 🙋
@danielcuevas58994 жыл бұрын
Leon The Professional “Ottoman never preferred to pick colonization as an ideas”- Colonizes The Balkan’s. “They expanded their lands to let other people know Islam not to force them to change their religions.” - imposed taxes on non Muslims and blocks them from entering positions of political power. “Never tried to exploit and assimilate other nations” - Forces Christian families to give up at least one of there sons, indoctrinated them at a young age so that they can become Muslim bodyguards to the Sultan aka the Janissaries.
@cyemenli5 жыл бұрын
I am a Turk. I have few things to say 1) yes, we did some sort of colonising. We took little kids from Balkans and converted them, made them janissaries, officers etc. Silver lining was that they were allowed to be even Grand Vizier (prime minister of today) so they could maybe one day visit their little villages proudly with their fancy dresses. Great marketing strategy to encourage those kids but this doesn't change the fact that 10 year old kids were separated from their mothers and siblings. I am not even mentioning about the girls brought to Harem. 2) vanity and greed in entire Muslim world caused the downfall. Imagine if Ottomans and Persians agreed for an alliance and supported each other. Who could stand against them in the 16th century? 3) we turks NEVER valued science or art. Even before islamisation we were pure militaristic. 4) At least we destroyed fountain of the youth
@herneyse112 жыл бұрын
bence sil bunu, iyice kinlenmesinler.
@cyemenli2 жыл бұрын
@@herneyse11 kim kinleniyormus, ayrica kinlenirse kinlensinler bana ne
@realmemeshere Жыл бұрын
Bu ne kardeşim hiç sanata önem vermemişiz aynen tabi kardeşim sil şu gerizekalı yorumu 3 yıl olmasına rağmen yazıyorum.
@cyemenli Жыл бұрын
@@realmemeshere aha tek toynakli sığır entered the chat XD thank you for proving my point
@ennui97458 ай бұрын
Nice, an actually reasonable comment, you love to see it.
@Potato-yr2lw3 жыл бұрын
This was a question I did not know I needed answered
@taxed33485 жыл бұрын
Are you ever gonna do more long form videos again ??
@TheTrooper1155 жыл бұрын
When the channel change was made he did claim that he'd continue to do longer videos, you probably won't get a direct answer though - People have been asking about this since the change and not once have I seen him reply to any of the questions.
@supremeleaderchase73394 жыл бұрын
They were in Age of Empire 3. Are you really gonna argue with AOE3? Didn't think so.
@the_phen0m6393 жыл бұрын
Where? I don't remember
@supremeleaderchase73393 жыл бұрын
@@the_phen0m639 They were playable in skirmish mode and multiplayer, but I don't think they were in the story at all.
@the_phen0m6393 жыл бұрын
@@supremeleaderchase7339 bruh I still play it sometimes but never saw something like that
@antoniofrancis17363 жыл бұрын
Didnt they remove asia from that game? Like i remember that there were some maps in south east asia and some asian nations there but suddently they were gone for some reason
@supremeleaderchase73393 жыл бұрын
@@antoniofrancis1736 I think that was DLC
@Vampy_Rhombus50065 жыл бұрын
*plays EU4* "DAMNIT MAMLUKS!!! Y U COLONIZE MOLUCCAS!?!?!"
@Emre-nb8dz5 жыл бұрын
M A M E L U K E A N A U S T R A L I A
@Vampy_Rhombus50065 жыл бұрын
Emre I have a game currently as Holland > Netherlands and as I was in the East Indies, I see Mamluks colonizing the Philippines!
@snowman94522 жыл бұрын
The Ottoman empire didn't actually "colonize" Ionian islands in Greece, which are WRONGLY shown in red in this video (they had always been under venetian rule), how would they colonize America? It was a middle eastern style continental power, Navy and seafaring culture was unknown to the ottomans (and still is unfamiliar to Turks, to be fair)
@realmemeshere Жыл бұрын
Dude, Ottoman navy was so powerful
@migwella90865 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're mentioning Ethiopias independence but the italo-ethiopian war of 1895 is cooler
@KangaKucha2 жыл бұрын
I think a better question to ask is: Why didn't China colonise the Americans and such? It almost happened but didn't. I think that is more important to look into than Ottoman Empire in the Americas instead.
@damc84152 жыл бұрын
Europeans initially traveled to the Americas looking for an alternate route to China. Meanwhile, China had already figured out where to find itself: as Chevy Chase said, "Wherever you go, there you are."
@75aces972 жыл бұрын
China's treasure ships had that capability, but apparently the Ming didn't have the will to explore in that direction.
@iamthinking2252_2 жыл бұрын
@@75aces97 maybe holding China together takes a lot of energy (money, force?) that made further expansion not worth it (in their eyes at least)?
@75aces972 жыл бұрын
@@iamthinking2252_ it does. Then again just building that treasure fleet at all was an exorbitant expense of resources and man hours that I don't think any kingdom outside China could have built them at the time. And only if the emperor and Zheng He found it worthwhile. Venturing out across the sea for uncharted land might have sounded like a fool's errand.
@KangaKucha2 жыл бұрын
@@75aces97 I pretty much said that. They had the ability but didn't care. Instead, Europe who come by and dominate it.
@itaybron5 жыл бұрын
You can't fool me H.M i played age of empires 3!
@oliversherman24142 жыл бұрын
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
@charliedibe61802 жыл бұрын
There are other models of empires besides the colonialist capitalist model we're all accustomed to. The Ottoman. Empire took over lands, but they did not enact the same settler colonial practices that Spain, UK, France & the Dutch did in the modern colonial era. Ottoman onquests initially preserved much of the existing administrative machinery and culture, in many territories they amounted to little more than a change of rulers for the subject populations, Very different from the European approach to the "new world'
@kane357lynch Жыл бұрын
We conquered people who practiced cannibalism and human sacrifice
@charliedibe6180 Жыл бұрын
@@kane357lynch who is we? What people are you referring to?
@l0remipsum991 Жыл бұрын
@@charliedibe6180 Spanish more likely?
@tuluppampam Жыл бұрын
That is also what the Romans did, i.e. the best way of quickly conquering and maintaining control of large regions
@DarkVeilNebula Жыл бұрын
The comment i was looking for… Otherwise a lot of countries besides Turkic countries would speak Turkish. North africa and whole middle east would speak it but no north africans know french tho. Just like the rest of almost whole africa
@kemalordulu2713 жыл бұрын
I am from Turkey and read a lot of historical articles etc about this topic. I list some other reasons did not mentioned about the video. 1- Going through morocco or from İndian Ocean was problematic. The main problem was theese regions were to far away from the Capital Istanbul. To put simply, Ottoman empire was fairly centralised for most of its time and governing far away provinces and protecting them was fairly difficult. Ottoman Empire governed indirectly the places westward from Eygpt with the help of local corsairs. 2- Ottoman ships were not suitable for ocean use, and Ottoman artisans had not the capicity and knowledge to built Ocean going vessels plus Ottoman sailors lacked the experience necessary to use these ships. All of the points mentioned previosly resulted Ottoman defat in Indian Ocean against Portuguese. 3- Ottoman elites and rulers lacked the necessary information about the importance of far awy colonies and the protecting trade routes. This empire like the Roman empire and Russian Empire was more land based. It expanded, protected its borders and gained revenues through taxation. Thus making overseas expension to a far away contient was out of question. 4- Also, Ottoman empire had a closed agricultural economy. Trade was hard between settlemetns and it required permits. It lacked the administrative foundation to support a capitalistic economy which in turn fueled colonial adventures like it was in Great Britain and Netherlands, or Germany.
@osmankarih52392 жыл бұрын
Great comment bro.
@asoka77522 жыл бұрын
then how come Ottoman sailors managed to land in Iceland to enslave their people? The real reason is Ottoman didn't have any reason, whereas Europe was desperate. plague hit them hard, lack of work force, lack of resources, lack of foods, expensive route through Ottoman empire caused them to find an alternative route to Asia, whereas Ottoman empire didn't have that need at all. Ottoman empire later might have tried, but they didn't have competent leaders later on.
@osmankarih52392 жыл бұрын
@@asoka7752 they were Muslim pirates not Ottoman soldiers. And it was in 17th century, Ottomans were late in the race to the New World.
@captainjim10102 жыл бұрын
@@asoka7752 hahahaha Ottoman sailors what a joke dude... more like pirate lowest life forms
@captainjim10102 жыл бұрын
Never put Turkey and History on the same sentence
@henrythemuthafuckineighth2 жыл бұрын
What I love about this channel is it answers questions I didn’t know I had.
@assyriancrusader3760 Жыл бұрын
Your name 😂👌
@JKTProductionzIncNCo Жыл бұрын
lmoa I can't just get over ur name
@777Mikos5 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting fact that biggest colonies in the new world belonged almost exclusively to the countries with direct Atlantic ocean access. For that matter, not only Ottomans missed the opportunity, so did (by nation, not state) Germans, Russians, Pols and Italians. We might've lived in a totally different world if those powers realised New Worlds potential sooner.
@Castellano872 жыл бұрын
The Russians had Alaska and had reached Northern California
@mohammedqasim71472 жыл бұрын
@@Castellano87 Yeah exactly but to Russia, Alaska was just more vast icy land which they got in abundance so they sold it. They would love to have it now as a deterrence to the US
@Castellano872 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedqasim7147 is that why they sold it, because it was purely ice? Have you been there yourself?
@mohammedqasim71472 жыл бұрын
@@Castellano87 Man educate yourself. I was metaphorically speaking. They have vast uninhabited land in Russia, e.g. Siberia they really didn't need more of a similar climate. What would convince Russians to relocate to Alaska instead of Eastern Russia ?
@Castellano872 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedqasim7147 I can only guess how you “self-educated” yourself 🙄 Lil boy
@sadettinarslan53243 жыл бұрын
Suleiman be like: not my problem but my grandsons’ problem
@Emre_Kermen3 жыл бұрын
Grandson: not my fault my grandpas fault
@user-jl7tr1nv6d3 жыл бұрын
"Even your dreams cannot reach where my might reaches" - Fatih Sultan Mehmet, who took Istanbul at the age of 21
@yahyab33173 жыл бұрын
1:18 it was not so easy! they tried several times to conquer Morocco but the failed
@zgramzhnisk3036 Жыл бұрын
They vassalized it like thrice, search ottoman expeditions into morroco
@veda11455 жыл бұрын
Because unlike Spain and Portugal, conquering provinces is much easier for Ottomans
@veda11455 жыл бұрын
@@MrGaters34 None of empires has a peaceful and colorful history background.
@mertyuksel60525 жыл бұрын
@@MrGaters34 what about genocides
@OsmanOsmanHan5 жыл бұрын
Jérémy You confuse them with european colonizers, dog.
@fantan0105 жыл бұрын
Yeah because Spanish conquistadors where all angels towards the Native Americans weren't they?, at least the Ottomans took care of some of there slaves particular the Janissary lived like kings compared to other slaves in that time.
@hakkaydin77585 жыл бұрын
@@MrGaters34 you talk as if the empires except turkey were so niceee. You have to spend a long time of reading while reading a book which tells about the "empires killing the most people"to find ottomans. never stand away the facts my friend dont believe what your mom&dad and media says, to reach the true information you have to read well. Greetings from istanbul
@AchuCSGO4 жыл бұрын
imagine the genocide countries like France, England, etc., without Colonise how poor they would be.
@youriefavre90034 жыл бұрын
That's mostly due to economic liberty, not colonialism.
@chafikmbhaine81034 жыл бұрын
@@youriefavre9003 nice joke
@edgardanishh4 жыл бұрын
@@youriefavre9003 Terrible joke
@thomasprent21794 жыл бұрын
Well those countries shouldn't get colonized then
@youriefavre90034 жыл бұрын
@@chafikmbhaine8103 Could you explain your point to make it clearer instead of behaving like a teen?
@Realite583 жыл бұрын
America is ‘nothing’ in that time. The Ottomans were already powerful, also the Ottomans have no colonization culture. Everybody have always used their own language and religion with freedom.
@Meteorknite3 жыл бұрын
Many european nations were powerful at that time Russian empire Britain and Nordic states Even Russian empire went to america from the other side of the world and colonised Alaska Ottomans were good on land and calm sea thats all
@Potjenjks29883 жыл бұрын
“No colonization culture” do you realize how insane you sound? The whole entire reason the ottoman empire and turkey existed/exist today is because of turks colonizing lands hundreds of kilometers from their steppes?
@FairPlay00075 жыл бұрын
Imagine there's a giant mosque in Brazil instead of Christ the Redeemer statue
@zackg62165 жыл бұрын
Fuck that I would take Brazilians in thongs over Brazilians in burqa
@faisalsukhtian19325 жыл бұрын
Zack G The sad reality tho, is that you most probably will have neither 😉
@FairPlay00075 жыл бұрын
@@zackg6216 Burqa wasn't a thing at Ottamans and it is also illegal in Turkey. But I think they would be only %50 muslim. Like other muslim balkan countries.
@jdumpingplace25174 жыл бұрын
@Che Guevara guess what, you don't matter too
@yurichtube11624 жыл бұрын
@@FairPlay0007 it is not illegal
@awildfilingcabinet62395 жыл бұрын
Because it was a territorial and ethnic empire like Austria, and in a more disadvantagus position for reaching the new world
@curtisevanschicago3 жыл бұрын
One day there will be a "Why Didn't America Build Bases On The Moon After Landing?" video. 🌛
@ihavetowait90daystochangem675 жыл бұрын
Ottomans: I want to have colonies in the americas The Portuguese: I’m bout to end this man’s whole career
@toddharig81425 жыл бұрын
Stale meme
@justabulgarianpatriot75045 жыл бұрын
More like Spain not Portugal but yes 😄😂
@Habs19675 жыл бұрын
@@justabulgarianpatriot7504 both.
@Habs19675 жыл бұрын
Spain & Portugal: step aside homie.
@Daluz199405 жыл бұрын
Just a Bulgarian patriot Portugal took control of the Indian sea by defeating the Ottomans
@luckymapping3 жыл бұрын
Chile after seeing the Ottoman Empire's borders: Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!
@ArdaSReal Жыл бұрын
Thats how empires around the Mediterranean tend to look because of....DESERT
@luckymapping Жыл бұрын
@@ArdaSReal did you make a typo
@ArdaSReal Жыл бұрын
@@luckymapping yep now its corrected
@luckymapping Жыл бұрын
@@ArdaSReal oh, I was confused and I googled what an amlire is
@Techno9635 жыл бұрын
Cries in AOE III
@oguzakar19975 жыл бұрын
Because they r good man🤗
@delikadn18685 жыл бұрын
@Perni ciosa I agree with you...
@kevinvalenci98535 жыл бұрын
@@delikadn1868 lol no
@alperesattoprak87515 жыл бұрын
Ottoman empire was strongest but turks hasn't enough people (34 million people) ottoman empire 63 countries now
@faradaynkafesi81395 жыл бұрын
@@alperesattoprak8751 irrelevent. ottoman solgiers were not turkish. Ottomans didn't peak colonization ideas
@gorthorki5 жыл бұрын
They were criminals who couldn't sail, that's about it.
@mellowYellow123-r1q2 жыл бұрын
Great video very interesting
@FolkeBernadotte25 жыл бұрын
Actually the Ottomans have discovered the Americas (or the new world) & gathered so much details like no one else. Google Piri Reis and his map.
@hannoverlieb5 жыл бұрын
The "turks" were still sitting in huts somewhere in Asia for like 200 years, after the European viking Leif Erikson discovered the new world.
@leopard2A85 жыл бұрын
@@hannoverlieb red erik
@hannoverlieb5 жыл бұрын
@Ahman Actually, it was the Siberians that crossed the Bering Strait. Please tell me more about your conspiracies though, does bigfoot have anything to do with this?
@hannoverlieb5 жыл бұрын
@Ahman No it didn't, because there's still standing evidence of the vikings landing in Newfoundland. Can you show me any evidence, that is backed by historians for your claim?
@hannoverlieb5 жыл бұрын
@Ahman "No I cant back it up" You could've just ended the sentence at that.
@kagangezmek79745 жыл бұрын
Ottoman did not colonise any country.if we would colonise them They would have to speak Turkish.
@gutss86085 жыл бұрын
Turks are direct descendents of native anatolians.
@cihattekin5625 жыл бұрын
@Ninja Crackpot don't underestimate massive numbers of turkic people moving to anatolia for a thousand years
@__prometheus__5 жыл бұрын
In Age Of Empires 3 they technically did (I know it’s a game and not real but yea) 😂
@emolohtrab3468 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting thanks
@JCKei-hs7kx2 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: Morocco was the first country to recognise the US
@bigalmou2261 Жыл бұрын
Based Morocco lmao
@napoleonibonaparte71985 жыл бұрын
The Ottoman did reached the Americas... To destroy the Fountain of Youth
@hellothere48585 жыл бұрын
With the knights of st john
@MsAkbar145 жыл бұрын
Top 10 anime betrayal
@__prometheus__5 жыл бұрын
Ngl that shit took forever to destroy
@MsAkbar145 жыл бұрын
@Broman i saw you in several comments in this video, you seem to hate arabs a lot, i'm not arab despite my name. And about that "top 10 anime betrayal" meme, i was talking about Alain Magnan, who was the commander of the Knights of St. John, and a close friend of Morgan Black (main character of AOE3). Alain betrayed Morgan near the end of campaign chapter 1, turn out that Ottoman were the good guy all along, later Morgan switch side to Ottoman.
@MsAkbar145 жыл бұрын
@Broman good to know
@sharjeelazeem27533 жыл бұрын
If Ottomans had colonised the Americas: Wild Wild Maghreb Pirates of the Khurasanians American Jinn Stories 1001 Amazonian nights
@mizrahiwithattitude27332 жыл бұрын
Pirates of the Khurasanians lol but khorsan is land locked and ottoman never controlled persia lol
@miguelito45283 жыл бұрын
The sultanate of florida sound Very Nice
@epg965 жыл бұрын
Please make videos about this Why Nusantaran monarchs like Srivijaya or Majapahit or other Asian countries didn't annex Australia before Europeans came?
@archontiverius5 жыл бұрын
Have you seen our local wildlife? You go and try tell your king how your town was eaten by birds.
@JohnnyLodge25 жыл бұрын
IIRC from Guns, Germs, and Steel they didn't know about it.
@MrAizatazmi5 жыл бұрын
coz we went west and colonize madagascar
@ilhamrizki40115 жыл бұрын
@Flischer actually Makassarean Found Australia Long Time Before European Found it, and They even Estabilish Trading Port in Australia.
@ilhamrizki40115 жыл бұрын
I Think Because Idea of Colonialization Doesn't Spread to Us at The Time. actually many Kingdom In Nusantara (Indonesian, Malaysian, Bruneian, and Filipino). Had Found it Long Time Before Europeans Do, even it More Earlier Than First European Powers Contact With Us the Nusantaran