Why Diverse Democracies Fall Apart and How They Can Endure | Amanpour and Company

In much of the world, democracy is currently under threat by the rise of authoritarianism. Writer Yascha Mounk is known for his work on democratic institutions and liberal values. In his latest book "The Great Experiment," Mounk describes ethnically diverse democracies as the biggest test of our time. He discusses with Walter Isaacson.
Originally aired on February 2, 2023
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[@SteveBrant55]

We do have some great founding documents and principles here in America. And I remain optimistic about America's potential. However (and sadly I did not hear Mr Mounk address this), those documents and principles are under attack by an enemy from within... a domestic enemy that the news media has failed to label as such (out of a misguided commitment to be "fair"). Fairness does NOT mean "treat an enemy of democracy as 'the other voice' in the room along with the Democratic Party. We do NOT have "two voices". We have a WAR between democracy and authoritarianism! I have just ordered Mr. Mounk's book. I hope to find in it a recognition of this challenge I did not hear in this interview.

[@marwar819]

Media fair (balanced)? You're joking right? They are soooo partisan and not to be trusted. We have a war between extreme leftist destroying American cultural and authoritarianism destroying democracy. That leaves no one to vote for that can be trusted. Even as a lifelong Dem, as scary as it would be, I would rather vote for Trump over a Dem.

[@vivektulja4516]

Hi Christiane and Walter: No one is talking about the biggest elephant in the room, which is population explosion on our planet. Most of our problems, including large-scale immigration and global warming, are a direct result of this problem.

[@robertskolimowski7049]

Great interview, very needed👏

[@sherryberry2394]

Wise conversation!!👍

[@judykinsman3258]

Your guest did not lose rights recently like half the population did with these religious zealots on the Supreme Court. Add that to this conversation.

[@BobQuigley]

Science shows us we're not only related to each other but to the entire DNA based biosphere which is the source of life. No need to hate! For those clinging to their culture consider this definition. Culture is peer pressure from dead people. To hell with culture. Love the neighbors

[@patricialongo5870]

We're being given our new orders to be cleansed.

[@lindas.martin2806]

I believe we can celebrate and honor our culture’s and we can also not hate. All cultures have traditions, celebrations, language, food,even clothes that help identify that culture. This is beautiful. Unfortunately some people do not seem to enjoy our differences as much as our similarities, if we do not understand those traditions. but often our values are similar and hopefully people will travel more, or Want to know the sub cultures within there communities better and all our lives will be enriched. Ojalá.

[@lindas.martin2806]

@bartsolari3168yes, that can be a hard one. Better made houses and headsets are needed. I still have not found any that work. There are noise rules in some cities, right?

[@jutsu1]

You are insane, multiculturalism has destroyed nations yet you still want it.

[@zacharydavis4398]

❤️RL💯💯💯💯Thank you for spending the time to create and share this content awareness 🙏🏾

[@DavidCoxDallas]

"Things fall apart - the centre cannot hold"

[@larrycreech6808]

Inequality is creating tremendous pressure in the lower end of the economic classes. Desperation drives crime and extreme emotions and actions. Trump and Obama both gave them hope and then jerked the rug out. The banks were bailed out but the people were kicked out, of their homes. A return to the good old days, for most people, became a scapegoating of the usual hated "others" and more austerity for the masses while the upper economic classes got tax breaks and relaxation of corporate regulations and constraints. Corruption is the root cause and restoration of a much stronger democracy is the solution. Campaign finance, voting rights, gerrymandering, and elite capture of the courts and regulatory mechanisms are among the real problems. The Federalist Society seeks to exploit the shortcomings of the founder's creation and has been very effective. Reforms are too difficult and this stifles advancing refinements to our system.

[@EvesRevenge]

Thank you so much for this interview. I’m buying the book. Thank you thank you thank you. I shared it probably over 30 times to friends.

[@DaleLefflerCLC]

Reinstate the great Peace Corps to promote diverse contact.

[@timothyfreeseha4056]

I would add that this conversation can have a temperature that can be measured by the very real non theoretical thermometer of Economy. Equality can be identified by this marker, more than by who is right and who is wrong. Actually..this a question rather than statement

[@allisonandrews4719]

Yes two men should be optimistic.

[@patricialongo5870]

How diverse should we be? Is this diversity? Somehow I'll still hear that ethnic purity is getting prosperity and we're not.

[@fredericrike5974]

I was born in West Texas, during the years the hard rock drilling for oil in the Permian Basin was ongoing. Now I am 70. I have known that my grandchildren would be a little "browner" than I and that many minorities would as like be a bit whiter; I have known and realized that since I was a 13 year old throwing newspapers in New Orleans. I was working about two blocks away from David Duke's office in Metairie , LA when he ran for the Louisiana legislature on a program to initiate school vouchers- in 1974, IIRC. Vouchers that have since defunded much of the NO Public School System, as well now of many other states that have adopted it and watched their public education funds dwindle. You know who Duke is, I needn't tell you; but I will tell you how shocked, absolutely shocked, my Metairie neighbors said they were when reminded of David's public installation as the Grand Dragon of the South Louisiana Ku Klux Klan. But today, his school vouchers have done more to wreck the public education system than any other single cause. Not even Congress' long absence has done so much harm. And have made the rise of 30-35 million poorly educated, terrified voters who are convinced by this "good ole boy" that they will be plowed under by a rising tie of minorities. People often forget that Rome was a slave state- at one point it is thought the Empire had nearly twice as many slaves as free, but not to worry, Rome was also the most successful conqueror and slave revolt stopper in the world at that time also. That is what you get when you suppress your "minorities" too long- and those folks David brought along have been told what will happen to them if they "let it happen". They are easy to spot of late- most wear distinctive RedHats. And I haven't a clue how we will ever fix it, other than out vote them till they all die of old age but there is a fly in that ointment too; in 2020, one hundred million Americans DID NOT VOTE AT ALL. Forty percent of those who should be eligible to vote DID NOT VOTE, and FEC stats say that 20% were registered. Enough voters to change the result of every election held since long before I was born. And that, gentlemen, is the real 'gator biting us about the hind quarters. FR

[@myindigoblues5796]

The disconnect of the elite that make the decisions is an important piece that was mentioned here. I really see that in Canada as well with our policy-making and how we set up social supports, etc. It’s very frustrating. There needs to be more of a democratic, varied system that includes contribution from the people these systems and policies are impacting. That disconnect not only creates an imbalance of power, but also a huge loss on the effectiveness of these resources being used to solve social problems. They can squabble amongst themselves about petty things because it’s all ego and nepotism, but their lives are not on the line like the rest of us trying to survive. There are some real issues at stake here that depend on them actually doing their job and not being so petty and immature. I would like to see real people of character, maturity, wisdom, care, concern, and leadership rise to the top, but in the Age of Personality, I don’t think that’s going to happen. Would be nice, though. Those just don’t seem to be the people who run for office. It seems the farther away from the problem people are, the less likely they are to solve it.

[@milycome]

To My Indigo Blues Absolutely correct. Of course, the person getting elected is Not going to be the most qualified or the person that cares most to have the interests of the masses at heart. Rather he's going to be someone that is already well known (a Celebrity) that is totally unqualified for the office he is running for. This is done by design by the puppet masters and under their control. Donald Trump is a perfect example of puppet masters interference as a chosen candidate representing their (the puppet masters) interests desguised as a (populist) candidate appearing to represent widespread support of the masses, but is Nothing But. Well, guess what ? It worked. The deception was successful. Proving what ? Proving that the masses (voters) are too stupid for words and can be manipulated by the puppet masters to follow, support, and idolize a popular celebrity , electing him into office. Merely create a false idol to worship.

[@myindigoblues5796]

I’m more concerned about values over race, and the loss of common values. I actually see the opposite happening, where I relate more to immigrants coming to Canada than I do to the “natives” because they seem to have values that we have lost touch with, in an increasingly individualized, competitive, capitalism-at-all-costs society that no longer prioritizes community and the foundational supports that made this a place worth living. In a lot of ways, we forget that we were all once immigrants here, and as far as North America goes, it seems the longer we are away from the “Mother Land” and our native communal values, the more disconnected we are. I think our generations have lost touch with the reason why our families came here in the first place, which can be renewed and refreshed by meeting new immigrants who are looking for the same thing that we once were.

[@deeznutz8320]

Ah so refreshing those Somaliland raping women in Sweden Yeah same values as us...

[@Cacofonixravi]

Every thing(all resources) for everybody.... should be the way to go. What is the biggest threat to democracy? Public that doesn't care about preserving the rights we have. Fire dies in the hearts of people, no constitution or judge that can restore. Justice Ruth Ginsberg

[@Horatio.Mantooth]

I bet ginsberg is making quite the smell right now.

[@deeznutz8320]

Ugh that baby killer

[@TranNguyenVungLay]

Each country brings authoritarianism in different forms. Racism, colorism, religionism, theocracy, powerism...etc. All these rebellious are hide in countries with high democracies, Communist countries are no exception. The main reason is that people's awareness of democracy is too low and lack of understanding of human history in the past.

[@cockatooinsunglasses7492]

If different types of humanity can't coexist among each other then it is to my belief we have NO BUSINESS going to the stars.

[@clairerobinson7658]

Thank you for this important discussion ❤

[@pmccarthy001]

Interesting ideas to lead the way. We've really come a long way, but being realistic is always a good practice too.

[@pmccarthy001]

@@patricialongo5870 I don't understand what you mean. It's been a few days, but if I recall correctly he was talking about the challenges that ethnically diverse democracies are struggling with. I don't recall him talking about NATO.

[@patricialongo5870]

@@pmccarthy001 nobody can say. Ethnic diversity has its drawbacks again.

[@pmccarthy001]

@@patricialongo5870 What? Are you saying that diversity can be seen to have its advantages AND disadvantages, both for the group as a whole and certainly some of the subgroups. If that's what you're stating... I wouldn't challenge that proposition. But this is just kinda on a different page than what I recall the discussion here being about. I don't think the gentleman interviewed was discussing the advantages and disadvantages of various natures of diversity on the group as a whole or any of its subgroups. I believe he was discussing the challenges being faced in Europe and the US with trying to maintain some manner of democracy with increasing ethnic diversity. I don't believe he was addressing the issues revolving around the possible advantages and disadvantages of increased ethnic diversity... that's a different discussion than the one I believe they were having here. My memory is that he like a scientist studying a natural system as to how it evolves and changes. Not so much an analysis of whether these changes are desirable or undesirable based on some moral/ethical criteria. Those are all interesting questions and could fuel an interesting discussion, but I don't think that's the project he's involved in here.

[@deeznutz8320]

@@pmccarthy001 Yeah he as a Jew is working hard making sure that white people are replaced in their own lands without to much fighting I saw this scumbag on Dutch national tv too

[@pmccarthy001]

@@deeznutz8320 I'm not sure I knew he was Jewish. Are you talking about his views in regards to Palestine and the occupied lands adjacent to Israel? I don't know what his views are on this subject, but not all Jews agree with Israeli policy in regards to the occupied lands? So, if he's Jewish or not doesn't necessarily tell you what his views on this subject might be. Wait a minute... but most Palestinians are people of color? ... I think? I don't mean any disrespect. So, I'm not sure... is this what you're alluding to?

[@marionbaker5562]

Look what happened when some of the native Americans tried diversity. It worked out well for them.

[@thomasthomasphilp4393]

Middle class in western countries is shrinking

[@billbernhard3582]

So, it would seem, by this conversation, that American government, with all its bile and violent expression, is circling the drain. I actually believe this is possible ! Optimism does not intrude in this equation - only great concern & fear will motivate the lost minds of the current crisis in leadership. The Right prefers leadership based upon dictum, not democracy. The two are diametrically misaligned, yet the radicals persist in their ruinous vectoring. Thanks Walter - democracy is endangered !

[@vicioustwist]

Every. Single. Time.

[@questioner113]

We in India are also facing a crisis in our democracy, caused by divisions along ethnic and religious lines. We have a long history of ethnic and religious diversity and syncretism, but ever so often, that is threatened by people who think on religious lines. The economy has not been kind to all groups of society. Some have gained, while others have suffered. Worse, often the uneven economic benefits of development have served to create a sense of grievance, which has been exploited by political parties. Often the grievance is against groups who have suffered the most.

[@vivektulja4516]

India is a different case. You cannot apply the points of this discussion to India. In Germany or Sweden, immigration is a very recent phenomenon. India has been under the rule of foreign invaders for the past 100 years, and only now it is trying to break free of those shackles. If the majority population of India wants to live as per their social and religious beliefs, it is not wrong. This is exactly why many other nations such as Denmark and Austria are unhappy with immigration.

[@62Cristoforo]

Authoritarianism and fascism always rises in hard times. Populists and demagogues will always take advantage of the prevailing angst found during hard times.

[@elainegoad9777]

Democracy: one person, one vote, NOT Electoral College.

[@geromiuiboxz765]

🇨🇱 Regarding one of the fundamental reasons which contribute to the insane and excessive Polarisation, all over, is missing in the conversation ❗ And that is journalism, which in seek of more lucrative business, give more voice to the gossip than to the substance (of news, and ongoings) 😣 In particular the "consolidation" of groups like Maga, which are held together by subjective believes, and not by objective facts 😫. They would not exist, if they had not have the Fox News loudspeaker of lies. Saludos de 🇨🇱

[@johnchornyTheOnly]

Crouching Tigers Hidden Dragons #OutlivedUsefulness

[@Rnankn]

This is what happens. Whoever screams the loudest, and threatens the most, sets the debate. So the fixation is on so-called diversity and ethnicity, when there is only one culture, commercial culture. Everyone and everything is devalued relative to capital, because everyone and everything is given a price. What was once sacred, traditional, natural, or authentic is mass produced, consumed, and discarded. The theory of pluralism, and its ethnic nationalist corollary are a narcissism of small differences. Democracy will fail because real change is rendered impossible. When new circumstances cannot be met with open minds that propose substantive ideas for transformative renewal, agency is lost. An unconscious civilization that cannot adapt and is unable to see itself and the world differently will stagnate before it fails. Such people are condemned to myopically relitigate past grievances as their world crumbles around them.

[@ApexEater]

The senate needs to be operated via sortition to take the monied interests out of the equation and the house needs to be a preferential voting system.

[@paulheydarian1281]

For certain folks, germicide and genocide are pretty much the same thing.

[@TheVafa95]

Why diverse democracies fall apart? Have you studied Baha'i administration? You will find democracy in practice in local, national and global levels.

[@EnzroGreenidge]

This guy reminds me of Tucker Carlson from 20 years ago when he was a CNN star.

[@davidgrabstald8141]

Vote

[@igor.t8086]

[April 11, 2023] Walter, I’ll just copy-paste (i.e. reiterate) my comment that I gave few days back on one recent video clip from Bill Maher, because it’s 100% applicable to the issue presented here, namely the inherent problems of diverse modern societies. While reading it, just replace “religion-invariant” with either ethnicity-invariant (if you come from EU), or race-invariant (applicable to the US). Here it goes… It might have been different in the past (very, very distant past), but today, when the whole world is one gigantic, messy, mostly right-wing fundamentalist-exclusionist, STEM-illiterate, tolerance-depleted yet still gorgeous (that is, zoo-like “elegant & diverse”) proverbial village (meaning “one primordial-soup-like community” with shared online & environmental experience) - it follows that a definitive prerequisite (i.e. “mathematically necessary condition”) for anyone & everyone living on Earth today to be morally & principally allowed to consider or declare themselves honest-to-God (authentic) humanist is this “*religion-invariant*” quality in moral values: contemporary people should favor humanity (i.e. empathy, compassion and ethics, as high-end aims of cultural revolution) over any chosen or born-into theological heritage. This necessity is self-evident from our conscious collective experience and aggregated collective knowledge to date. It wouldn’t work any other way. (Or, maybe, the Earth is flat…) Now that I read it again, I’m going to (manually) summarize it in an extreme-mode ChatGPT style: Inside modern societies, altruism beats patriotism; but altruism cannot surface without society-wide pursue of the objective reality (i.e. “the truth”). My level of hope: Chances are 50:50 (that any diverse society today can overcome innate nationalistic urge). On a technical note: *1)* Hosts & producers should provide higher-quality microphones and (at least brief) “technical operating guidance” to the remote guests. Or, alternatively, they may choose to augment the volume of the recorded sound; studios regularly do that. *2)* Foreign-accent English speaking guests appearing before the public (myself included, minus “public appearances”) should not talk fast, but at a slower pace and also try very hard to be more “verbally articulate” (i.e. audible) so that the audience (which is predictably faced with the burden of interpreting speaker’s mind) doesn’t face additional task of deciphering common words. (And it’s not only me: Google’s AI had a dozen of misinterpretations annotating this interview; and, if anything, the large language models are perfect with words, aren’t they?)

[@nfpnone8248]

My answer to “Why diverse democracies fall apart”; in short they do not fall apart because democracies are not affected by diversity, they are empowered by diversity! This idea that diversity is a negative defect of democracy is a total fallacy based upon a misconception! The problem with this assessment is the definition for what constitutes a democracy, how it’s assembled, and how it functions, but before you can get to what constitutes a democracy, you must determine what the purposes of government is, then what the effects of disparity are on that system, and if there is, any demographic disparity must be addressed by the republican principle. So as we should be able to ascertain, we must know what constitutes a democratic and republican form of government, because with the increase of demographic diversity and disparity, then a purely democratic system is impossible to assemble and manage, and that is true of a purely republican system, which is why we must have a system which embodies characteristics of both, and that is a Confederated (compound) Republic assembled in a bicameral legislature, but you must know how to assemble and operate that system to derive the equality and equity which this compound governing system is designed to establish. Q: Can a democratic or republican form of government devolve into authoritarianism? A: No absolutely not! If your governing system is susceptible to improper consolidation and empowerment of individuals and political factions, then it’s not a democratic or republican form of government, which are based upon diversity and equality! Actually in a democracy the rich and powerful are at a disadvantage because the democracy is controlled by the majority which are the 99% and there is no possibility of the 1% protecting themselves from the decisions of the 99%. When it comes to ethnic diversity then the more uniform the population the more that the majority ethnicity controls both a democracy and a Republican Form of Government, but as ethnic diversity increases, then no advantage is given to any ethnicity, because no ethnicity has a majority, so the simple republic protects minority interest through dilution, and there must be a high degree of agreement to form a majority. These defects are addressed with a compound republic which has the advantage of diversity in the most numerous legislative branch and the advantages of equality in an equal branch for concurrence. What this means is that the 1% are protected from the 99% with respect to economics, and the minority ethnic groups are protected from the majority ethnic groups. So how is this Confederated (compound) Republic assembled and how does it function? We must start with what constitutes a member of the governing system, because it must start with a participation versus compliance agreement between the members which form an association, union, or even a club, then the members must establish a participation versus compliance agreement which establishes the benefits, privileges, rights of participation in decision making and cost of membership, this is also true of pure democracies and simple republics. But it’s the right of participation in decision making which separates a compound republic from a pure democracy or simple republic. A pure democracy and simple republics are assembled in a unicameral legislature, a compound republic must be assembled in a bicameral legislature where an exact representation of the population, “The People in their Collective Capacity” must be assembled in the “Most Numerous Legislative Branch”, and notice; a representative is someone you hire to advocate for your interests, a representation is a smaller version of the original; and the members are also assembled in an equal branch, this establishes an iterative legislative process where the populous branch controls scope and cost and the equal branch controls concurrence, and both are required to assent to any decision or choice. For example, the 9 largest States can form a majority in the House of Representatives based upon their proportion of the representation and proportional suffrage, but that leaves 41 States in the Senate to reject any measures that are not in their interest, returning those measures to the House for reconsideration, and this iterative process continues until the measures passed out of the House can garner the concurrence of a majority of the States in the Senate, but notice this does not give the large and most populous States the power to make policy in their own interest, but it does give them the power to say no to policy that is not in their interest, which is what is missing in a pure democracy where everything is decided by a majority of the members alone with no respect to the interest of the minority, which are the largest and most populous States, this is why this compound system constitutes legislative checks and balances. Notice we haven’t discussed executive and judicial responsibility in a democratic or republican system of government, that’s because both are legislative assemblies, and as such, the legislative authority necessarily predominates, the executive departments are established by the legislative assembly to manage the general affairs of the government under their direction, and the judiciary is assembled to settle conflicts and disputes between the States, and to decide the resolution for petitions for redress of grievances which may arise when a State(s) are disproportionately affected or disenfranchised by laws that are properly legislated with a majority consensus of all the States. This is necessary for all democratic and republican forms of government, the legislative authority must predominate and the legislative assembly is the Established Government Authority. Notice there is no mutability in either of these democratic or republican governing systems, and the composition and distribution of power through rights of suffrage are specified unalterably before the members choose their representatives which will participate in the legislative process on their behalf, this is not a competitive assembly method, where composition and control are determined thorough competitive partisan elections to consolidate representation and suffrage based upon majority party affiliation. And also notice, there are no individuals empowered to lead, govern, or make any decisions, all decisions are made collectively by the members in an assembly governed by legislative processes to reach a majority consensus of all the members. It’s impossible to devolve a Democracy or a Republican Form of Government into an authoritarian or oligarchic form of government!!!

[@reginaerekson9139]

10:07 that line of thinking really fails if you zoom out to ever increasingly shrinking planet with technology vs population. If you’re not Indian or Chinese or super rich in liquid or resources 🤑 it’s over!

[@yamatominato4314]

Democrazy Usa is a constitutional republic not democrazy

[@TheRealTomWendel]

Democracy is literally rule by the people. Yes, the US is not a direct democracy. The term is being used here and is often used more generally as a generic term for citizens participating in a form of self determination in governance.

[@weston.weston]

Yay, very happy to learn that those who commented here (other than the gentleman who admitted commenting without watching the video) all find Yascha' argument flawed in some significant way. I used to think he spoke/researched in good faith but to be honest, I always had a not so good feeling about him that told me he was a bit too Fox News friendly for my taste. Although, he would likely deny his more conservative values likely many similar people do.

[@marwar819]

I used to watch A&C religiously until it became clear that every news media is far too partisan to trust. One must listen to a wide variety of voices before making political judgments.

[@lindas.martin2806]

The speaker talks so fast sometimes I cannot understand what he is saying. Unfortunate.

[@marwar819]

Interesting conversation. I've been wondering if diversity is really contributing to the betterment of the US. The answer feels like no.

[@deeznutz8320]

The anwser is hell no But the guy is a Jew where have you seen him promote diversity for Israel?

[@thewolfofswingthat2035]

theres a research paper released recently saying that young democracies are more likely to start wars than dictatorship

[@myindigoblues5796]

Makes sense

[@kevinjenner9502]

The US has been in a state of peace 17 years since 1776.

[@thewolfofswingthat2035]

@@kevinjenner9502 the paper does not specifically address the US since US is not a young democracy but more like countries that are newly form like the wars sparked after the yugoslovia split etc etc

[@peteraschubert]

Is this guy a university lecturer - takes a long time to get his point out. TLDR

[@TheRealTomWendel]

Extreme authoritarian nationalism isn’t going to go away. It will always be there. But the only way forward is progressivism, which rejects staying the same or going backward. Mobility is here to stay. Success going forward means embracing that reality.

[@deeznutz8320]

Progressivism Teach toddlers gay anal sex and white people should hate themselfs That type of progressivism?

[@TheRealTomWendel]

@@deeznutz8320 I don’t know where you get your information. Please show us just one concrete example of any of those claims.

[@livingintheforest3963]

I disagree with him. I grew up in Los Angeles which was extremely diverse. However, I love being in a community that is exactly like me. It’s not what he’s saying that people are afraid of how things will be. It’s just some of us really enjoy being around our own racial or ethnic people. Luckily I do live in an area like that. I don’t think people should tell us how we should feel. And I definitely agree that the Great Replacement theory is a plan.

[@davidk1493]

Where you born with these self-indulgence attitudes or were you brain-washed by your upbringing to be so ethnocentric. The beauty of American is that you can live in your own ethnic dream world if you choose. If you want to speak Mongolian with your friends and family, no one will stop you. But as an adult you can't impose you own world narrow world on others even though as a child you were a victim of that kind of conditioning behavior behavior.

[@deeznutz8320]

He is Jewish so of course repopulation is his main goal

[@reginaerekson9139]

When I learned about those crt things in school in the 5th grade, I only felt bad because I knew it was wrong and total bs for one human to do that to another and call themselves a Christian or whatever. The point is to stop doing that! DIY or pay someone in a dignified manner to perform the service to a professional standard. 13:10

[@topper1212]

If you were in 5th grade, you don't learn about CRT. CRT is a taught in law schools.

[@sherryberry2394]

CRT in fifth grade? Didn't happen.

[@reginaerekson9139]

@@sherryberry2394 ask my teacher Mr. Johnson at Broad Avenue elementary- he’s the tall black guy with thick glasses! 🤣🖕🏼. I thought he was super cool ✊🏽

[@reginaerekson9139]

@@topper1212 it was called social studies back then 😂

[@themaskedman221]

This guy's peddling ethnic fiction. To suggest that England was 'homogenous' is to ignore a multi-thousand year history of migration and settlement: first by prehistoric peoples, then by Brittonic tribes (or 'Celts'), then various Norse, Normans and, in the later Middle Ages, French and smaller numbers of Germans and Italians. And England is part of that bigger country the UK whose main ethnic groups are English, Scots, Welsh and Irish. This country isn't and never was 'homogenous'. And France? It's absurd to imply that natives as far afield as Brittany, Normandy and, say, the Mediterranean coast are all one homogenous people (even ignoring all the EU and non-European migration in recent decades). And to say that early America was ethnically homogenous? That's a Dillingham Flaw and common fallacy that works only if you assume, once again, that the English, Scots, Irish and Welsh were one people, to say nothing of the smaller numbers of Germans, Dutch, French, and Swedes who were present in the colonial period. This is a country that was named after an Italian, speaks English and decorates Christmas trees like Germans. The country had a relatively diverse founding population though English language and culture predominated. In turn other immigrants from non-British Europe settled and adopted this culture (and, again, this happened to some degree in the colonial period as well). So the larger history of the US is one of various different ethnic groups establishing a baseline culture that was then adopted and added to by later groups, rinse and repeat. This has happened in virtually every other western country except over different spans of time. This guy is pushing an American exceptionalist view of nation-state era history. He wants you to believe that America is special and unique in its national history as a sovereign state (to say nothing of indigenous history), and for that claim you should be skeptical.

[@ronkirk5099]

I'm an educated old white guy, but I don't feel threatened by the increasing demographic and political power of our diverse minorities of all types - ethnic, racial, or LBGQT. If we don't start increasing the empathy and compassion for ALL our fellow citizens and strive for the common good, I feel our country is in big trouble. Unfortunately in my state of FL, we are going in just the wrong direction with policies to promote a dumbed-down, narrow-minded, and white-washed education for our children which runs counter to developing a more compassionate, empathetic citizenry and will lead to more marginalization and discrimination against our minorities.

[@eveningstarnm3107]

I don't know which of us is older and whiter, but I'm with you. I like having a colorful world, although I've never found puce to be particularly attractive.

[@Horatio.Mantooth]

Good,I'm glad it's happening in Florida and Texas. Soon once desantis becomes president. It will be country wide. So keep your mouth shut old man. Go eat your pudding and watch as the fun really begins when the cleaning starts

[@eveningstarnm3107]

@@Horatio.Mantooth Dude. Read the room. Seriously. You're maybe 10% of America, and the rest of us are tired of your shit.

[@deeznutz8320]

Probably because you live in a white neighboorhood

[@deeznutz8320]

@@eveningstarnm3107 Move to Brazil all the diversity and the crime that comes with it stop destroying our country

[@James-lb3jo]

Keep in mind that H.Clinton won the popular vote . The Democratic leadership at the time took Michigan for granted which Trump won . Many hispanics have a tendency to vote conservatively on many issues . Immigrants that have citizenship may feel threatened by unregulated immigration . We have seen some of that along the Texas border where a Republican represents a long swath of the border counties . If the presidency was elected by popular vote Trump would have lost .

[@TomdeSabla]

Democracies are unstable. The masses are ruled by their emotions and herd this way and that. They inherently fail to respect the rights and interests of the minority. By definition in a democracy, you vote and the majority rules. This is why the US is a constitutional republic. The word "democracy" does not appear in our founding documents for that reason. People have to have their rights respected in order to have a stable and prosperous society. All people. And those rights are not (and can not be) subject to a vote. Sorry. Didn't watch the video. Just responded to the question asked. Bottom line: Democracies cannot endure unless their existence is about respecting the rights of all people. Voting is way, way overrated.

[@TomdeSabla]

Diversity just makes the country even more unstable as politicians and other demagogues pit one group against another to build a power base. This is why the rule of law is so important. People in the minority (and in all groups) must see that the government and the law treats everyone the same

[@RoxanneM-]

The term of democracy used here and anytime we say we are a democratic country refers to not being an autocracy. We ARE a democratic Republic. As opposed to Russia for example or many Republics in Africa which are authoritarian. The Right-Wing media has used the idea of a “silent minority” to rev up a sentiment of dissatisfaction of our system which does not exist in the way they say it is. The same right-wing media IS a mouth piece propaganda by and for precisely that minority of oligarchy ruling over us. It would help watching the interview too. And voting is not overrated. To see this more clearly live in a authoritarian country where vote is underrated, and you’ll understand better.

[@TomdeSabla]

@@RoxanneM- "When I use a word, it means just what I want it to mean" ha ha. "Right wing" blah blah blah. Do you disagree about rights and rule of law being critically important? Because in the founders view, governments are instituted to secure the rights of the governed. That is their very purpose. Do you disagree with the founders on this issue?

[@marwar819]

Voting creates winners and losers. Terrible system. It gives us what we have in the US today. A better system would create balance that to at least some degree serves everyone. I am a lifelong Dem. the state in which I live has a majority Dem legislature with the power to override the Repub governor. Repubs, for all intents and purposes, are unrepresented and they are, rightly so, furious. Grossly unfair and unjust system.

[@TomdeSabla]

@@marwar819 well, it's not the winning and losing that bothers me as much as the fact that there is so much at stake. Some basic principles like individual rights and the rule of law should be sacrosanct. The state has way too much discretion to play favorites

[@cmxsprt]

Who the hell says North America was white ppl’s country? It never was, so the whining about losing your place as majority is screwed up.

[@deeznutz8320]

It was a piece of land with tribes waring over it It became white people country because we build it and turned this freezing hellhole into a prosperous nation That self hating white folks like you are just giving away

[@cmxsprt]

@@deeznutz8320 it was a resource rich natural landscape of the brave and free, now it is the paved, fenced and depleted land of the greedy, depraved and stupid, with millions of people living in prisons, give me a break!!!

[@yamatominato4314]

Better constitution is follow god's will

[@marwar819]

Whose god? What about atheists? Exploiting god doesn't seem to be doing much for Repubs. Thank god.

[@yamatominato4314]

@@marwar819 jesus chrish of course

[@dougn2350]

Jesus was the original socialist.

[@yamatominato4314]

@@dougn2350 nope jesus is share a kindness and pure love

[@yamatominato4314]

@@dougn2350 dont compare him on corrupt sinner socialist like mass murderer