Why do Hamas consider themselves the victims after October 7?

[@kardew973]

who recites quran is muslim who understands quran leaves islam.

[@user-cf4zx1zs4r]

In your dreams and imagination, yeah.

[@helman41]

@@user-cf4zx1zs4r he's right, the quran itself refutes islam

[@sbaumgartner9848]

Then there's the Surah's - the sayings of the prophet identified by how accurate each is (how close the source was to the Prophet) and then there's the more concerning Sharia laws.

[@RafikKhan-ol4zk]

Cp is teaching your'll to lie

[@papihsha_pkm1642]

Keep dreaming.. 😂😂

[@solvingpolitics3172]

It's because " Cry Bullying" is Islamists official language!

[@ranro7371]

Christendom was always an empirial religion, born under the auspices of constantine, the subjects were converted at the edge of the sword and rendered into slaves for his majesty, often referring to him as their lord. In Islam such slavery is unthinkable. The only lordship is that of the creator, no station into which man was brought into the lands of Islam was to any degree as bad as the repugnant chattel slavery brought by the primitive tribalism inherent in their texts. Constantine chose regularly to refer to himself as the “servant of God” (famulus dei/therapon tou theou) in official writings. By the fifth century, this metaphor of subordination had been redeployed from theological to political contexts as the subjects of the emperor came to refer to themselves as “slaves of the emperor.” And by the sixth, Justinian insisted all his officials swear an oath that they would demonstrate their service to the emperor “with genuine slavehood” (gnesia douleia).b Building on Paul’s revalorization of the vocabulary of slavery, and particularly the word doulos came to be applied to a variety of hierarchical relationships, even as it also continued to be used specifically of chattel slaves. By the middle Byzantine period, this expansion of the semantic range of the root doul- eventually gave the abstract nominal form douleia, meaning laborer Insofar as everyone who partook in labor was considered to be a participant This epistemological world view is coherent with master-slave dynamic relationship between the head of the state and his subjects, or rather slaves. The word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”-Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” Albert describes a massacre occurring, in cold blood, on the second day following the conquest, painting a scene that is as horrific as it is realistic and detailed: "Girls, women, matrons, tormented by fear of imminent death and horror-struck by the violent murder wrapped themselves around the Christians’ bodies in the hope to save their lives, even as the Christians were raving and venting their rage in murder of both sexes. Some threw themselves at their feet, begging them with pitiable weeping and wailing for their lives and safety. When children five or three years old saw the cruel fate of their mothers and fathers, of one accord they stepped up the weeping and pitiable clamour. But they were making these signals for pity and mercy in vain. For the Christians gave over their whole hearts to murder, so that not a suckling little male-child or female, not even an infant of one year would escape the hand of the murderer". Evoking several of these verses in practice: - (Num 31:17-18) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. - (Deut 7:2, 9:3, Num 21) thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them.. - (Ezek 9:6) Slay utterly old [and] young both maids and little children and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] mark begin at my sanctuary. This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. Stephen Langton, the writer of the Magna Carta (12th century, contemporary with the crusades for a reason) studied in the university of Paris which archives show had plenty of Arabic treatises in its procession, there can be no question about it being inspired by the "Sharia". both the renessiance and the european enlightenment were directly preceded by massive translation movements form Arabic (see the Republic of Letters by Alexander Bevilacqua, The House of Wisdom: How the Arabs Transformed Western Civilization By: Jonathan Lyons. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. What started this cognitive revolution, what started this sharp contrast between before Islam and after it, what started the real Enlightenment of humanity? God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

[@petergrimshaw492]

Thanks. The comment about the Muslim tendency to blame outsiders is very psychologically astute. Own your power.

[@mznxbcv12345]

Trinitarians are inoculated from rationality, facts and logic. It is no surprise that basic reasoning is entirely lost on those that believe that the creator became one of those he created in order to save the created from his own self. Not to mention the incoherence in the scripture, never minding the creed itself. Matthew 4:1) Jesus was tempted [James 1:13) God cannot be tempted (John 1:29) Jesus was seen (1 John 4:12) No man has ever seen God (Acts 2:22) Jesus was and is a man, sent by God (Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9) God is not a man (Hebrews 5:8-9) Jesus had to grow and learn (Isaiah 40:28) God doesn't ever need to learn (1 Corinthians 15: 3-4) Jesus Died (1 Timothy 1:17) God cannot die (Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation (Luke 1:37) God doesn't need salvation (John 4:6) Jesus grew weary (Isaiah 40:28) God cannot grow weary (Mark 4:38) Jesus slept (Psalm 121: 2-4) God doesn't sleep (John 5:19) Jesus wasn't all powerful (Isaiah 45: 5-7) God is all powerful (Mark 13:32) Jesus wasn't all knowing (Isaiah 46:9) God is all knowing Rationality was only born with Islam, those who cannot count have nothing to say, at the end of the day 1+1+1 will never equal 1.

[@margaritoceja]

mznxbcv12345 Jesus was fully God and fully man, the hypostatic union. God is one and Jesus is his word; the holy spirit is the love between the Father and the Son. The Father and the Son are in heaven, and the love of God, the Holy Spirit, is everywherel. Dailly, we see the love of God in His creation. God is one; if you try to understand it, you'll loose your mind, if you don't want to understand it, you'll lose your soul. God is one; is the basis for our salvation. I'm sure you will understand God will do whatever and however he pleases. There is nothing impossible for God: if he wants to remain, body, soul and divinity, in a piece of bread, he can; who are we to say otherwise. He can do that and much more. In heaven, for 75 years, if he wants to give us 3 groups of 72 of kinds of virgens, and 72 assistants for every virgin, and 72 assistants for every assistant prior, he can, but he won't. If he wants to give us 80,000 children and 40,000 women in heaven, he can, but he won't. If he wants to give us a bazaar of dirty magazines of men, women, childen, homosexuals, he can, but he won't. If he wants to give us rivers of milk and honey, he can, but he won't. In heaven there will be no desire or need for food or drink. He will give us what our souls most desire, to worship him. He's the creator of the heavens and the earth. In heaven, without a physical body, there's no need for food. Worshipping in the presence of God is much better than eating; there's no need for food in heaven.

[@JhutaNabi]

⁠​⁠@@mznxbcv12345 All of the above twaddle coming from someone that believes the holey cow-ran that condones stuff like sex slavery (q33:50-51) or pdf filia (q65:4). Ever heard of a thing called context? Didn’t think so. Now explain this ‘contradiction’ oh wise one: “Do not answer a fool according to his folly Lest you also be like him. Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own eyes” (Proverbs 26:4-5) 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@LoknBtweenfingaz]

⁠​⁠@@mznxbcv12345nice polemic buddy. Live well.

[@nananou1687]

​@@mznxbcv12345rationality was killed with Islam Mate, start cooking apologies for 4: 34 😂 Without lies, Islam dies

[@onvogmasaj]

the perpetual victim, Hamas, is guilty of crying out in pain, as they strike you.

[@elenatramsti5176]

Beautifully stated, however, I would apply that to all Palestinians.

[@Ogofor3913]

​@@elenatramsti5176So here is a crazy idea, WHY don't you give the Israelis your homes and land?? They left were ever they were for a reason. If they were such GREAT people, why would they be hated.

[@Kamisama77]

​@@Ogofor3913 There was no such country as palestine, jordan and israel there before WW2. Stop lying that its land of arabs, bud If you wanna dig history deeper, you'll see that jews have more right to claim the whole area as their land.

[@ranro7371]

yes shlomo tends to do thatr

[@ranro7371]

Some reading this are trinitarians, therefor will not understand who this is in reality directed att

[@onvogmasaj]

reminds me of that old russian proverb, "the gazan will always tell you what happened to him, but he'll never tell you why."

[@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist]

For real? Russians have a proverb involving Gazans? That's kinda funny if true…

[@ma55382uk]

Lol it says Jews

[@nakana149]

I appreciate your love of Muslims but after everything that you discussed with regards to Islam and when reading polls that show that the majority of Palestinians living in the West Bank support the massacre of October 7th it is very hard to reconcile this.

[@GerardPerry]

I agree. And I say this as someone whose best friends, probably my only friend at the time, in elementary school was a Muslim. And who had a very good friend in HS and college who was a Yemeni Muslim.

[@classoneguy4308]

I’m a Baptist, which may explain my response to you. Jesus Christ didn’t tell us to love nice people. He said, “Bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you.” In other words, love all people. You may say that doesn’t make any sense. That is why Jesus also said, “Ye must be born again.” Then you can love anybody.

[@nakana149]

@@classoneguy4308 I understand what you are saying and I am born again but I also have a human side of me to struggle with that does not love terrorists who used the most brutal, sadistic ways to hurt, murder and traumatize a nation. Or to love the people in Gaza who also participated in the atrocities and those who cheered them on in the streets. Jesus can love them and I'll ask him to show me how. But of my self, right now, I can't do it without him.

[@anonymoid388]

​@@classoneguy4308One can love a murderer and still want justice, because one can be thinking of not only the murderer but the murderer's potential victims. Love members of Hamas all you want, but give them whatever they desire? No, that is not true love. True love is wanting what is best for a person and that sometimes is justice so he can learn the evil of his ways and repent.

[@ranro7371]

The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by Himmler in WW2, 1943 he literally said “we have to be savages in a chapter that will never be written when treating human animals”, even their calculating of calories was also done " There were no No Attacks on civilians the 7th. Just collateral. 500/1200-1300 (they keep magically decreasing) were soldiers. Out of 769 names, 462 military (55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants of whom 45 are sergeants majors, 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 13 captains, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, 2 Lance Corp). It was a Military defeat, they are taking it out on the rest. On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 13-17: 14 18-25: 132 26-40: 119 41-60: 55 61+: 40 Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 26-40: 60 41-60: 17 61+: 1 haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded , Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded , Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded , Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded , Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded , Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded , Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded , Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan.

[@venenareligioest410]

“Fear ALL prophets ... and those prepared to die for the ‘truth’, for as a rule they make many others die with them, often before them, most times instead of them!” UMBERTO ECO

[@loveandmercy9664]

I lived in Israel where all signs were in Hebrew, Arabic & English and met many Israeli Arabs who spoke all three of those languages. I also lived in Turkey including the heavily Kurdish populated areas where signs and speaking Kurdish were banned. How many Muslims protest over the Kurds?

[@Yohanes8.6]

Kurdish does not being mention in the Quran. So they are not important in the Muslim's world.

[@user-ko3rl4vw6c]

If Jews are not involved.....well......Asad of Syria finished half milions of its Syrian pepole and i dont remamber such a hysteria. Christians were butchered in Lebanon and Iraq - by Muslims- silent

[@Kamisama77]

​@@Yohanes8.6 Are you serious? Quran mentions neither Kurdistan or palestine

[@user-jl2xq9ig2s]

It is not about the nation, it is about the religious symbola... Al Aqsa.. That is the name of terror act is "Al Aqsa Flood"... I already know this will be the worst islamic war, because of those name (Al Aqsa Flood) will be spread all over the world.. as I also read the fake news on islamic world as I live in the biggest islamic country, Indonesia, who support Palestine and Hamas.

[@jma7600]

No much money can be raised in defending the Kurds. The Palestinian cause is extremely more lucrative. Hamas leaders are billionaires.

[@mindunion]

Excellent and very informative segment. We are indeed in a civilization struggle. There is one additional factor that Dan and his guest did not cover and that is the massive increase in ignorance of the western public. They do not read, they do not educate themselves, and therefore are very easily gaslighted. Outstanding work for Dan Brubaker and his guest.

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you!

[@Stardust475]

So true. 💯

[@rajdialnandram5676]

It would be of help to understand the origin and rise of Islam to look at Revelation Chapter 9 , in the Commentary -- Daniel and Revelation by Uriah Smith. Islam was the scourge from Jehovah to punish Apostate Christianity , just as Babylon was the scourge to punish Apostate Judah. Islam fills the time and place prophecies in 9 : 5 of 150 years and 9: 15 of 391 years and 15 days perfectly. Revelation 9: 11-- And they had a king over them which is the angel of the bottomless pit,whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon but in the Greek is Apollyon . Devil . 9 : 20 -- And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues ( Islam ) yet repented not of the works of their hands ( apostate Christianity ). Sadly , Islam may well complete the conquest of the rest of the Roman Empire now centered in Europe, seeing the rest of the Empire in Constantinople and North Africa were initially punished by Islam.

[@pauljack7170]

western is gnorant and brain washed by wokism and left arabic propaganda ..internet does the worse job ! muslim countries are ignorant as ineducated and brain washed by fear and imams so the future will be blood confrontation

[@aaronnoisboy8122]

​@@variantquran4505you are the wrong side of history about islam and Qur'an about Qur'an I suggest you go and ask muslim at mosque about Qur'an or Bassem Youssef(he is journalist and comedy from Egypt) You should know that Amazon are working with Israel's government and they already send 5 or 10 million us dollars to Israel government 2 weeks ago Have you watched the news

[@mo_51_married_aisha_6]

The God of Abraham promised in Genesis 12;3 to curse anyone who curses his chosen people. After Muhammad cursed the Jews on several occasions, he died at the hands of a Jewish woman. He also died exactly as he said he would if he spoke falsely about Allah. All of Islam is under the curse of Genesis 12;3.

[@pandjidhewantara]

Who is the God of Abraham?

[@mo_51_married_aisha_6]

@pandjidhewantara Definitely not hubal, also known as Allah, the moon god.

[@Yohanes8.6]

He died a pathetic death. Eating his own curse and allah is helpless and powerless like he always was.

[@notmyname8527]

Curse those who curse you sound like what thos guys follow. But Someone else said Love your enemies.

[@jma7600]

@@pandjidhewantara Yahweh is the Name of God. We don’t know who Allah is.

[@chrishoff402]

The problem with that decolonization business is that Europeans could turn around and use it against migrants in Europe. Bad ideas can backfire.

[@GilbertdeClare0704]

I have a feeling that IS where we are now heading

[@kennyg1358]

​@@GilbertdeClare0704hope so

[@shrimpie202]

In the United States the saudis are using/buying our land, emptying the wells of water and destroying communities to grow their own alfalfa for use in their own countries. That’s colonization

[@jhljhl6964]

They are masters of duplicity.

[@tefilobraga]

Always have been, throughout history. That is why Christians have opposed them, and do not trust them. But this is not symmetric. Muslims may not trust Christians (simply for being Christians), but they have no objective reason for doing so, unlike the opposite way.

[@tranngocminh269]

same as Communist

[@lisaschuster686]

Perhaps Muslim economies would improve if women were encouraged to contribute. That’s 45 percent of their population.

[@mo_51_married_aisha_6]

After the events of October 7th, they were all celebrating in the streets at the expense of innocent women and children. Now they are getting everything they deserve and Muhammad, also known as Allah isn't showing up to help them.

[@childofgod4862]

How can imaginary pagan god Allah of Mhmd, help others when he cannot help himself. Surah 47:7 O ye who believe! If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly. The translation is > If you tansuru=help Allah, Allah will help you. Poor Allah needs help for human beings!

[@theastronomer5800]

Yes, but this is true of any people and their god. Persecuted Christians in Muslim lands are not getting any help from their Jesus, nor did the Jews who suffered on Oct 7 get any help from their god.

[@killpridebeforepridekillsy6504]

@@theastronomer5800the difference is that Jesus Himself warned that we would be persecuted and so while we pray for the Lord’s protection, we don’t look to this world as our destination, we Christians are citizens of heaven, and so we long to be with Jesus and we know that there will be a reckoning.

[@GerardPerry]

​@@killpridebeforepridekillsy6504Amen.

[@johnlove2954]

Lol, what about whamen comment

[@Gail-gf7km]

Because they never take responsibility for any of their actions unless it includes murder and mayhem. They are more than willing to claim ownership to bloodshed.

[@ventithedrunk9506]

And people say this is anti muslim. When this is the message they share

[@iconiclust]

Thank you for your HONESTY. 👍

[@docdynamix]

Hamas is so far from being the victim its laughable 😂😂

[@geeboom]

I love my oppressors and willingly submit to their future dominance over me, my lands, my people and my culture. The attitudr of cowards. God, how this talk has made me depressed!

[@pankaja7974]

who are your oppressors ? anyway everything happens by the will of olla 🤣🤣

[@treadstoned9915]

​@@pankaja7974yeah they only think oppression is cool for women

[@TheWatchmanWebsite]

In 2005 Israel withdrew all Israeli security forces and 21 settlements (9000 Jews) from the Gaza Strip in the absence of peace negotiations. This would allow Gaza to develop their economy and build a peace-seeking society, which is developed, free, law-abiding, and transparent and which adheres to democratic principles. Palestine could have been the Hong Kong of the Middle East... But what do we know? Hamas soon won elections there and the agricultural and industrial infrastructure left in the settlements was destroyed and Hamas immediately began shelling Israel with rockets. Is that how you repay a neighbor trying to live peacefully with you? One thing Netanyawu is right about: Hamas are indeed like the Amalekites driven by their satanic desire to eradicate Israel. And then just before October 7, Israel had been working on a peace treaty with Saudi Arabia, in the spirit of the Abrahamic accords for peace in the Middle East. And then Hamas struck with an attempted barbaric ethnic cleansing of the Jews on October 7 when babies were killed, women rap3d and killed/burned alive and young people at a music festival were gunned down in cold blood! Everytime, they celebrated their evil acts with the demonic chant: "ALLAHU AKBAR!" (whatever that means). I suppose you think Israel was just supposed to fold their arms and say thank you very much to Hamas, right? The loss of innocent Palestinian life is deeply regretted (considering that Hamas is embedded in the civilian population and launches rockets from neighborhoods, schools, hospitals and kindergartens) but Israel MUST DESTROY the Hamas terrorist infrastructure so that Hamas will never recover, rearm and restart its genocidal ethnic cleansing of Israel like it tried to do on October 7. Unless you have been living under a rock, Hamas do not care even if they get more of the land. They want all the land, the whole thing. Remember the slogan "From the river to the Sea, Palestine will be free". Palestine, according to Muslims, will only be free if the Jews are eradicated from the river Jordan to the sea: genocide. Hamas or Islam has no real interest in peace with Israel. Hamas is motivated by their 7th century god, Allah's commitment to the death-wish of eradication of Jews.

[@U4Eye]

Muslims hate Freedom Muslims hate Music, Dance, Humor and hate every thing that brings hapiness they live pathetic life by hating non-Muslims want to reach heaven that never existed Dear Muslims, there is NO SHARIA IN MECCA 7thC

[@luisacleaves9592]

Islam reputation explains itself by their horrendous actions and atrocities…

[@barneydenstad2148]

Its an interesting observation, Muslims are doing badly economically. If a minority, they tend to be the poor minority. If a majority, the country tends to be poorish, unless do have great oil-incomes. They tend to look down and oppress the minorities. Comments: Although in a democratic country as Sweden, they have all the possibilites to school themselves, to advance socially and economically. Just a few are doing so. Being in majority they tend to held down their minorities. They are allowed to live, but not allowed to prosper and enhance the countrys riches. Other nations, say europeans, could let for example Jews or Germans immigrate, in the purpose to enhance the countrys economy. Jews could be looked down upon, but still used to improve the economy... Not so muslim countries! Oh, they do use immigrans as working force, sometimes even as specialists to do complicated jobs, but they are never or seldom allowed to enrich the country.... Why is so?? Ps. Gaza as is the example of today. When Jews were there, the economy of Gaza was expansive and very good. They among others, producer flowers and groceries for export... When Palestinians took over, they destroyed the green houses. I presume to make it difficult for Jews to return... But after it become clear Jews wont return, they could start the green houses anew?? And sell the groceries them too? Or at least, eat them themselves; with 2 million own inhabitans, there is a good internal market.... But no... Its just great pity and lotsa of UNRWA money, no or few own initiatives... A very good example of what the lecturers said.

[@wordfilter9542]

Tue bigger question is “ why does the rest of the world do so” ? Great lesson thanks for sharing!!

[@rivkamargolis7368]

This clip has raised important points why the conflict in Israel can't be resolved easily, certainly not by a 2 state solution. We're dealing with a culture that thinks in a way that can't accept peace with the existence of Israel.

[@taliabraver]

Most of the people against Israel are of a peaceful religion!I am shocked at how angry and hateful they are at Israel!You know this is what their parents teach them!Yet they are cowards whom run away from their homelands instead of staying to fight to make them better!Not one country steps up to help the palestinians.Sad!Israel is a very proud and brave country!WOW!I am so impressed.with them!

[@yo_wassupdude]

Mr. Durie, Aceh maybe very welcoming to you because you're a foreigner and you tried to learn about their way of life and religion. But not to indonesian christians. Aceh is no a welcoming place for us. Oh btw they burnt church too, but this never made it to national news channel, because they are promoting how "non muslims will be prosper and live peacefully under islamic/sharia law" lie.

[@jma7600]

Mr Durie is well aware of the treatment of non-Muslims in majority Islamic contexts. He was referring to some (the few) Muslims who don’t adhere to the teachings of Islam or who are unaware of how Islam treats others, are actually really nice normal people. After all Mr Durie wrote a book on it called The Third Choice. A must read for everyone concerned about the current events.

[@yo_wassupdude]

@@jma7600 yes it's true maybe in other area of indonesia that not heavily islamized, but I don't think that will happen in aceh where sharia law is upholded.

[@jamalkhan3708]

Good to see you sir doing another stream after long time. Thank you for sharing.

[@theguyver4934]

Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

[@Carla39894]

That's why UNRWA mist disappear

[@phillip0537]

Great discussion

[@bellyfiore1]

Thank you Dan, and especially for your Guest. So helpful in these trying times with the war in Israel. We are , in Europe dealing with Muslim immigrants . It’s changing our societies . Mostly young males from North Africa. Morocco , Algeria, Tunisia. Europe is turning slowly into introverted silent and hateful towards these people. Trusting open hearts are now closed towards them. Mostly because of theft and crimes of violence towards women.

[@variantquran4505]

Thanks for this comment, and I am glad it was a help. I feel that it is important to think about these things deeply, as there will be long and enduring effects, and wisdom is called for.

[@sabtiy80]

Denmarks future is dark, like the rest of Europe. 500.000 non whites. In 10-20 years it’s gonna be 50/50

[@Kamisama77]

​@@sabtiy80 No way. Muslims are still very minor. You just need to convince your gov to push these people to assimilate. Thats a must

[@deavman]

@@Kamisama77 Wishful thinking. Moo sl ims will never assimilate, on the contrary, they work tirelessly to become the leading power wherever they immigrate to.

[@CarlaVanWalsum8]

@@Kamisama77That’s not going to happen. Emotional and religious resistance are in the way.

[@sisuriffs]

I’ve read the Quran, and the holy books of Judaism and Christianity, and I can honestly say that Shakespeare, Molière, Milton, and Beaudelaire write WAY better than God does.

[@monajohnson3321]

G'DAY DR. i have researched islam for ten years and now im following the academic researches from all around the world. Im soooo happy to see an australian who knows islam fully.

[@pauljack7170]

nothing to know about islam... was created 1300years ago imposed by war and violence and still try today the same violence the same with poutin communism !!!

[@Jen8973]

God bless you in your studies Mona, I've taken some Higher education modules in Islam but would love to do 1 full time. But let's keep studying and praying God can use our knowledge and learning 🙏 😊

[@pauljack7170]

@@Jen8973 religion is not improving knowledge but repeat endlessly old clichés if a histories dead since longtime that will never return

[@chaplainmattsanders4884]

Just the reading of the video’s description provides such clarity as to the historical roots since WWI & WWII-I didn’t know that background!! So important to understand. I look forward to hearing the interview. Thanks for your thoughtful work!

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you; glad you found helpful.

[@ranro7371]

The Aramaic word for God is Alaha. It's the word Isa PBUH (Jesus as his name is often misspelled due to the lack of the ayin sound in Greek, which was rendered to Iesous, coupling the nearest sound to ayin, same letter found in 'Iraq', which sounds entirely different in Arabic form 'Iran' in Arabic, with the -ous Greek suffix that Greeks typically add to their names 'HerodotOS', 'PlotinUS', 'AchelOUS' and later mumbled into a J). Sounds familiar? Written without the confusing vowels, it is A-L-H ܐ ܠܗܐ (alap-lamed-he) as found in Targum or in Tanakh (Daniel, Ezra), Syriac Aramaic (Peshitta), adducted from the Arabic original of which Aramaic is a dialect continuum of A-L-L-H (Aleph-Lam-Lam-Ha). Language; When you look at the actual linguistics, you'll find that many were puzzled by the opposite, that is, how the other "semetic" (why in quotes will be revealed later) languages were more "evolved" than Arabic, while Arabic had archaic features, not only archaic compared to bibilical Hebrew, Ethiopic, "Aramaic" contemporary "semetic" languages, but even archaic compared to languages from ancient antiquity; Ugaritic, Akkadain. What is meant here by Archaic is not what most readers think, it is Archaic not in the sense that it is simple, but rather that it is complex (think Latin to pig Latin or Italian or Old English, which had genders and case endings to modern English), not only grammatically, but also phonetically; All the so called semitic languages are supposed to have evolved from protosemetic, the Alphabet for protosemitic is that of the so called Ancient South Arabian (which interestingly corresponds with the traditional Arabic origins account) and has 28 Phonemes. Arabic has 28 phonemes. Hebrew has 22, same as Aramaic, and other "semitic" languages. Now pause for a second and think about it, how come Arabic, a language that is supposed to have come so late has the same number of letters as a language that supposedly predates it by over a millennium (Musnad script ~1300 BCE). Not only is the glossary of phonemes more diverse than any other semitic language, but the grammar is more complex, containing more cases and retains what's linguists noted for its antiquity, broken plurals. Indeed, a linguist has once noted that if one were to take everything we know about languages and how they develop, Arabic is older than Akkadian (~2500 BCE). |Classical Arabic | 28 consonants, 29 with Hamza and 6 vowels; some consonants are emphatic or pharyngealized; some vowels are marked with diacritics | Complex system of word formation based on roots and patterns; roots are sequences of consonants that carry the basic meaning of a word; patterns are sequences of vowels and affixes that modify the meaning and function of a word | Flexible word order, but VSO is most common; SVO is also possible; subject and object are marked by case endings (-u for nominative, -a for accusative, -i for genitive); verb agrees with subject in person, number, and gender; verb has different forms for different moods and aspects | | Akkadian | 22 consonants and 3 vowels; some consonants are glottalized or palatalized; vowels are not marked | Similar system, but with different roots and patterns; some roots have more than three consonants; some patterns have infixes or reduplication | Fixed word order of SVO; subject and object are not marked by case endings, but by prepositions or word order; verb agrees with subject in person, number, and gender; verb has different forms for different tenses and aspects | | Aramaic | 22 consonants and 3 vowels (later variants have more); no emphatic or pharyngealized consonants (except in some dialects); vowels are not marked (except in later variants such as Syriac) | Simple system of word formation based on prefixes and suffixes; some roots or patterns exist, but are less productive than in Arabic or Akkadian | Matter of fact that all this, and the knowledge needed for deciphering ancient texts and the complexity all of it was derived from the Qur'an, it was by analysing the syntactic structure of the Quran that the Arabic root system was developed, first attested to in Kitab Al-Ayin, the first intralanguage dictionary of its kind, preceding the Oxford English dictionary by 800 years, that the concept of Arabic root was developed and later co-opted into "semitic root" that the ancient scripts were deciphered, they quite literally copy pasted the entirey of Arabic root. hebrew had been dead, and so were all the other dialects of Arabic until being "revived" in a frankensteinian fashion in the 18th, 19th centuries. The whole region spoke basically the same language, mumbled dialect continuums spread about, and Arabic is the oldest form from which all these dialects branched off. As time passed, the language became more degenerate and then the Quran appears with the oldest form possible of the language thousands of years later It is why the Arabs back then were challenged to produce 10 verses similar, and they couldnt. People think it's a miracle becau'e they couldnt do it, but I think the miracle is the language itself, they had never spoken Arabic, nor has any other language before or since had this mathematical precision behind it. And I quite literally mean, mathematical. Arabic is the only corollary to proto-semitic, infact the whole semitic classification is nonsensical for anyone with a somewhat functioning mass between their ears. hebrew, aramaic, rest of madeup dialect continua only have 22 letters of the 29 protosemitic letters Arabic has all 29. The difference betweeen Arabic and the other creoles and Pidgin is the same as that between Latin and pig latin or italian. "Semitic" is just mumbled Arabic, really. Imagine English with a third of its letters removed and simplified grammar. That's Aramaic, Hebrew, etc. For example, combine T and D into just T; there's no need to have 2 letters. The same goes for i, e, y - they should all be just y from now on, etc., etc. Arabic is the only corollary to proto-Semitic. In fact, the whole classification of Semitic languages is nonsensical for anyone with a somewhat functioning brain. Hebrew, Aramaic, and the rest of these made-up dialect continua only have 22 letters out of the 29 proto-Semitic letters. Arabic has all 29. The difference between Arabic and the other creoles and Pidgin is the same as the difference between Latin and pig Latin or Italian. "Phoenician" is an Arabic dialect continuum, and not only that, it is pidgin. It is simplified to the point of stupidity. Anyone with a basic knowledge of Arabic would see this clearly. What happened was that Arabic handicapped "scholars" saw the equivalent of Scottish Twitter spelling, with added mumbling due to phonemic mergers (22 letters, not 29), and mistakenly thought they were seeing a different language." Now how is it that the Qur'an came thousands of yeara later in an alphabet that had never been recorded before and in the highest form the language had ever taken and the language is lexically, syntactically, phonemically and semantically older than the oldest recorded writing, infact, that writing appears to have been a simplified version of it, and not only that, but it would be the equivalent of the greatest works of any particular language all appearing in one book that in a perfect script and in the highest form the language could ever take, so high infact it is theoretically not possible to surpass it all in a script that had never been recorded before and so the enlightenment of mankind from barbarism and savagery began and age of reason and rationality was born from its study God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

[@twnb7733]

@@ranro7371 Who is Allah?------In 624, the qibla was changed from Jerusalem to Mecca where the Moon God, Al Lah, surrounded by 360 idoles, was worshipped by the pagan Arabs. But the city of Mecca was ONLY conquered by Muhammad in 630. It means that the muslims are idole worshipper since 624.

[@mattaikay925]

According to the authoritative Arabic text, Al-Taqiyya Fi Al-Islam: "Taqiyya [deception] is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it. We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream...Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era." The primary Quranic verse sanctioning deception with respect to non-Muslims states: "Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah - unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions." (Quran 3:28; see also 2:173; 2:185; 4:29; 22:78; 40:28.) Al-Tabari's (838-923 AD) Tafsir, or Quranic exegeses, is essentially a standard reference in the entire Muslim world. Regarding 3:28, he wrote: "If you [Muslims] are under their [infidels'] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harbouring inner animosity for them... Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers - except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them." Regarding 3:28, the Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir (1301-1373) wrote: "Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels'] evil, may protect himself through outward show." As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad's companions. Abu Darda said: "Let us smile to the face of some people while our hearts curse them." Al-Hassan said: "Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the day of judgment [in perpetuity]." Other prominent ulema, such as al- Qurtubi , al-Razi, and al-Arabi have extended taqiyya to cover deeds. Muslims can behave like infidels - from bowing down and worshipping idols and crosses to even exposing fellow Muslims' "weak spots" to the infidel enemy - anything short of actually killing a fellow Muslim.

[@Stardust475]

Kitman, muruna, tawriya, degrees of legal lying in Sharia Look up Lloyd de Jongh

[@jhljhl6964]

people need to learn this!

[@cherylmoss3632]

As if we want to be friends with them. Heaven forbid

[@Yohanes8.6]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Islam is the source of their wicked cultures.

[@alonzoharris326]

The trinity is three gods.

[@lso5674]

Alan Watts once said 'if the holy book is the rule book of life, then we will all be stupid as there would be no reason to think' . I grew up as a Hindu in a muslim country, I can relate to everything your guest has said. I am now married to a European who doesnt see that Islamization is happening. If European eyes are not opemed now, after seeing the pro P move in London then as you said, they had it coming

[@anyakirby2014]

Very interesting, informative and revealing talk. Thank you very much.

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you.

[@Repent4JesusChrist]

Muslims listen and learn for your own good!

[@el_killorcure]

For the same reason Satan considers himself the victim in his breakup with the Boss...

[@matthewmaclaren2341]

finally after 26 minutes I am starting to understand where these guys are coming from.

[@acqueenarkpyanne721]

The perpetrator calling themswlves victims Such a laugh..

[@sbaumgartner9848]

#1) Mark, I've just started to listen to the podcast, but your comment on looking at things through a frame is already a great takeaway for me. I look forward to hear more about what you have to say in this podcast but also in others. Thank you. #2) I've been thinking the same thing that the West may fall to Islam. What a terrifying thought. I have no idea how any woman raised in the West would find Islam the answer to a well lived life.

[@U4Eye]

Women are worth half what a man is in Islam.They are slaves in and out of Islam . The Burka is a submission dress.

[@bonnarlunda]

The more I'm looking at the non-reactions of the West, the more I believe its all about trauma. There is research on how shame is a driving force for violence. Men more often turn this violence outwards toward others, women tend to turn on themselves. There is also the four stages of trauma: flight, fight, freeze and fawn. It looks to me that most men are in the freeze state, many women are in the fawn state. Compare a battered woman staying with a perpetrator. It's in the genes of a woman to fawn, to survive, to be able to fend for her children. It's a feature, not a bug.

[@cisnerosigonda]

Brilliant conversation. Having travelled extensively in Indonesia and making lots of Muslim friends along the way, this was essential listening. Two things can be right at the same time. This is a dangerous ideology that can also just exist in the call to prayer. Nevertheless even the history of conquest in Indonesia with Hindus being pushed into their final defensive location in Bali is important to note.

[@rivkajaneevenhaor5707]

Not to mention West Papuans.

[@joeynanez9897]

God bless you both and your families. Thank you for all you do

[@manueldumont3709]

Bullies always Cry😭like babies, when they're Stood-Up to . 😤🤮

[@dannyhughes4889]

Excellent.......very very informative and well done. As an Aussie living in Israel the shock waves of the Oct 7 Pogrom carried out by Hamas and some Gazan citizens have been of earthquake proportions. We will see a very different Israel after the War, far more Right in the Political sphere even among former Liberals and Conservatives and unfortunately in many respects the Arab sector will be under scrutiny in everything it does and doesn't do....the willingness to trust will go out the window. Israelis have already taken the concept of a 2 State solution off the agenda perhaps never to return. The tens of thousands of Gazans who formerly worked in Israel will be replaced by foreign workers on contract and no longer be allowed entry creating a serious economic crisis in Gaza. The same may well happen in the West Bank. Sadly the innocent on both sides will suffer as a result......which is always the way things turn out.

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you for this comment and analysis. Yes, many innocent people are harmed in big and small ways by bad worldviews and those who act upon them.

[@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci]

I have my doubts about how many “innocents” there were among those Gazans who had jobs in Israel.

[@ahsangamingchannel]

​@@variantquran4505so you're indirectly justifying killing Children of Gaza very good 👍 as expected from a liar

[@Watch-dv6yv]

Claimed as victim to get more and more money from all supporter peoples, even the poor one

[@luisacleaves9592]

God bless Israel 🇮🇱

[@BirthingBetterSkills]

Marxism is very recent. Radical sects of the 2 Abrahmic faiths have always been 'us vs them'. A 'religion' in itself isn't oppressive. It's how religion is used. I've lived in 30 diverse cultures. Just remember, radical religious sects are very, very, very, very oppressive. The poorest countries and least developed countries are run by radical religious sects. In one country, I was hosted by people in the Ba'hai faith. The man who drove me from village to village with his wife, had been born into the Islamic faith. He became a Ba'hai person because he was brought up to believe he should not smile or laugh. In the 6 months I was there, I never saw the face of another woman in public and in reality, rarely saw women outside their house. This is oppressive. Think about the radical Christian sects ... oppressive. Think, now about the radical Jewish faiths ... oppressive.

[@donalfoley2412]

Thank you for a reasonable and enlightening conversation.

[@ventithedrunk9506]

This makes me realizes our world is far from civilized, and were much more clueless than we actually are. No wonder history repeats itselt

[@ventithedrunk9506]

I agree. I live in the philippines and most muslims fight agaisnt each other, and are the one who start basicslly a "religion war", or "fight". One time near my hometown, muslims plotted into killing non-muslims because one woman didnt like how she was being treated by a tricycle driver (basically a public transprotation similar to tuktuks), and was asking for a rediculous fee. The muslims in that area then plotted to kill random passengers they take who call a Tricycle driver in the evening. When authority was alarmed about this, they then sent out police troops and traffic enforcers to look out for the myslim groups. Luckily not many were killed and a lot of the non muslim victims got away. But when the whole fiasco ended, the muslims basically said, "look how oppressed we are, we cant even do what we want! Our enemies are in power and they are evil." Like they were the ones who were victims. Thats not all. Mindanao is a main island on the philippines where there Muslim on Muslim fights. Im not villainizing them but its unusual and confusing to why they would marl thmeselves as victims though there isnt any law prohibiting anything against their relogion. Its the violence we dont like.

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you for this insight from your personal experience in the Philippines. I have been there multiple times, but never to Mindanao.

[@ahsangamingchannel]

Seriously bruh do you think 75 years of colonizing Palestine was not enough I'll talk about other countries later let's talk about Palestine their land was taken they were oppressed and now Israel is killing Children non stop if this is not pure terrorism then I don't know what is seriously bruh

[@ryanparris1021]

This is my favorite channel to link and share with my Muslim friends online. Great and important work thank you.

[@meisievannancy]

😂. Do they still want to be friends with you?

[@ryanparris1021]

@@meisievannancy Some yes…they mostly just try to dismiss it though.

[@SaraSara-ti6ex]

Human ignorance is infinite

[@jfr45er]

Excellent high quality interview.

[@HomeisJax]

I’m completely shocked how your guest missed the origin of this biblical hate. This goes back to Ishmael, the son of the slave woman and Isaac the son of the free woman; the son to whom His ppl would come from. I can see it so clearly and I’m just a lowly student of God, the more diligently I sought to know Him the more I was given understanding, just like Scripture says. Seek and ye shall find. I’m still in awe that it’s the never ending learning guide. Simply put, we’re seeing a physical manifestation of a spiritual battle! It’s like the one Gabriel speaks to in Daniel; he was held up coming to Daniel bc he was battling the prince of Persia and only Michael came to help him. Ephesians 6 speaks to the spiritual beings the Church. The Jewish ppl are God’s chosen and to touch them is to touch the apple of God’s eye. And there’s another whole layer of prophecy being fulfilled and pieces adjusting for battles such as are in Isaiah 17 and Ezekiel 38 & 39. But the familiar “they hated Him without cause…” There are two sides and make no mistake about it, God rules and reigns over all so it’s not like a power struggle, it’s evil trying to destroy all things God made good. Satan was the top dog and then God made man in His own image and gave him dominion over the earth. Islam is a counterfeit doctrine of satan that brings no life but only death. Everything God has made good, satan turns on its head, a perverted counterfeit! Hate, jealousy, greed, victimhood, begets hate, jealousy, greed, victimhood! And it keeps cycling throughout the Bible until Satan thinks he’s won by crucifying the Messiah but to the contrary, he sealed his own fate! Jerusalem is the Lord’s city and Israel is God’s chosen ones and time piece to watch. The Valley of Dry Bones is God putting His ppl back together, strengthening them back after the Holocaust✅, then He says He will gather them back to THEIR LAND, ✅they came from the four corners to become a nation in a day✅ never to be removed again. They went back in unbelief but you can see His hand on them! God turned His attn away fm them and went dark at the crucifixion~but you see His attn turn back to them in the early 1900’s! You see OT prophecy start being fulfilled but notice that God’s attn back on them stirs up some wicked darkness, too. God’s Spirit stirs Satan’s demons! ✅Satan tries the whole fm the river to the sea stupidity with the Holocaust, ✅they’ve been brought back fm death, ✅raised a nation in a day, ✅made a desolate desert bloom, ✅revived a dead language and ✅ even brought back the shekel. God is at work and we can see the spiritual manifestations in the evil, obsessive demonic hate and vile towards them by certain religions and groups. Israel got the Land Covenant and there will be no one who will be able to take them fm it. To exclude the spiritual aspect to what we’re seeing today and put blame solely on an ideology is to not understand that we his is Biblical, it’s not just about real estate! It’s a battle btwn good n evil! No other ppl’s ever held onto their identity and culture after being spread all over the world and in many types of countries. That alone is miraculous! Israel as a land or ppl and the widespread antisemitism doesn’t even make sense if God is removed fm the equation! It’s not wise to take what God has done, missing His Almighty and Wonderful Works, and give the credit all to man! Even tho satan is a loser, man isn’t close to brilliant enough to come up and keep going the evil satan has done. What satan means for evil, God will use for good. Out of this whole dark generational hate and evil~God will use for good. With antisemitism swelling, that will bring more Children home to Israel. He’s even doing miracles in Satan’s packs of wolves. Just check out how many mosques Iran has had to close bc no one shows up anymore! Watch closely and you’ll see the wheat in the midst of the tares!

[@ellasign1732]

the covenant is a perpetual covenant but there are conditions to fulfil, if not, God punishes the israelites mostly by using their ennemies and exiling them. Israelites have to repent in order and follow the law & commandments for God to bring them back to the land.

[@NancyLebovitz]

Thank you-- you've given me much to think about. However, I think part of what led to American religious tolerance was revulsion at the religious wars in Europe, and part of how we dealt with it was discouraging people from caring too much about religion.; It was possible for people to be comfortable changing from one Protestant denomination to another if they moved or if their income level changed. Maybe this isn't as good a thing as I've thought-- that it leaves people vulnerable to more emphatic religions.

[@PhilipDjaferis]

what about Lebanon as a litmus test, which has shifted in our lifetime?

[@KJ-yises]

True. When Christian were the majority, Lebanon was doing really great. Now…..a failed state.

[@murphyorama]

Thanks for this very informative and interesting discussion.

[@KiamatChange-ke8nd]

Isn't the truth? Israel was a victim on Oct 7 as well.

[@metgirl5429]

My father warned me if this 30 years ago after living in Indonesia for 4 years Pray for all of us 🕊🙏🏻🕊🙏🏻🕊🙏🏻🕊

[@ranro7371]

The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by Himmler in WW2, 1943 he literally said “we have to be savages in a chapter that will never be written when treating human animals”, even their calculating of calories was also done " There were no No Attacks on civilians the 7th. Just collateral. 500/1200-1300 (they keep magically decreasing) were soldiers. Out of 769 names, 462 military (55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants of whom 45 are sergeants majors, 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 13 captains, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, 2 Lance Corp). It was a Military defeat, they are taking it out on the rest.

[@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci]

So all those videos Hamas live-streamed of themselves deliberately targeting , murdering, and kidnapping civilians were just AI generated?

[@theholepicture]

Just started this video and after you mentioning you ran for office I left the TV to search to see if you were on the correct side before I invested an hour watching. I like and subscribed on both channels. I will go watch this interview now. Carry on. ~~~~~ An hour well spent, the Alpha Beta point at the end was a new and brilliant one. Our western youth siding with Hamas may be a bit deeper than stated. In an effort to understand a decade about the historical animus of Jews. It became an understanding by this non-scholar because of their tight communities, piety and studiousness of the Talmud, they were likely more literate than everyone else for thousands of years, literacy enables achievement and success. It is human nature for the unsuccessful to resent/hate the successful. Usury prohibitions in the middle ages by default made Jews the bankers. For thousands of years, they were pushed into ‘Jewish quarters’ of towns and cities; hence separated. Scape goats are desired for personal failure and governing failure an there has always been a convenient scape goat to point at. For example, the BS “protocols of Zion” created by the Czar of Russia. As an atheist I hadn’t even considered the hate was because of the Jewish Clerics that sided with the Romans to kill Jesus. But basically, to the question of why this conflict of why so many westerners have their panties in a wad over Israel and ignore all the Muslim on Muslim slaughters likely is a latent hatred of the Jews for all I stated above. Sadly, it is a part of western culture. Another reason our youth are siding with evil is because public education has taught our young the west is evil instead of good, we have our faults proportionately we measure up better than cultures that don’t have a foundation in truth. While pulling on the thread of my insatiable curiosity I found, and as a lazy laymen could be wrong, Islam jettisoned the Ten Commandment, the only religion of Abraham to do so. It shows. We will be the victims of the demographics we allow to happen, paradoxically we will be the victimizers that did it.

[@U4Eye]

if you know the Bible you would already know WHY the Arabs and other nationalities hate the jews. Soon it will be clear. 3For behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will restore from captivitya My people Israel and Judah, declares the LORD. I will restore them to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they will possess it.’ ”

[@Darcyd886]

Thank you for an excellent discussion.

[@DaboooogA]

Great discussion thanks

[@nigelbrayshaw2709]

I have Dr Durie's book The Third Choice. I highly recommend it.

[@endpc5166]

Indeed! Very informative book.

[@user-vz6vf5zn9t]

Are you able to do a video about the term Ahmad in the Quran Surah 61:6. Im hearing the term Ahmad is not in the sana Manuscript but added later by scribes.

[@chucke9718]

God Bless Love you Brother Stay Safe Always

[@mznxbcv12345]

Trinitarians are inoculated from rationality, facts and logic. It is no surprise that basic reasoning is entirely lost on those that believe that the creator became one of those he created in order to save the created from his own self. Not to mention the incoherence in the scripture, never minding the creed itself. Matthew 4:1) Jesus was tempted [James 1:13) God cannot be tempted (John 1:29) Jesus was seen (1 John 4:12) No man has ever seen God (Acts 2:22) Jesus was and is a man, sent by God (Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9) God is not a man (Hebrews 5:8-9) Jesus had to grow and learn (Isaiah 40:28) God doesn't ever need to learn (1 Corinthians 15: 3-4) Jesus Died (1 Timothy 1:17) God cannot die (Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation (Luke 1:37) God doesn't need salvation (John 4:6) Jesus grew weary (Isaiah 40:28) God cannot grow weary (Mark 4:38) Jesus slept (Psalm 121: 2-4) God doesn't sleep (John 5:19) Jesus wasn't all powerful (Isaiah 45: 5-7) God is all powerful (Mark 13:32) Jesus wasn't all knowing (Isaiah 46:9) God is all knowing Please re-read your scriptures properly Christians.

[@evelynmccabe3855]

Very informative. Thank you.

[@pauljack7170]

none of theirs tears will erase the horror they did on Israeli babies

[@FlavioLugo]

Where has Mr. Daniel Brubaker gone to? His last video (being this one) was 7 months ago. Is he not doing KZbin videos any longer?

[@willielee5253]

🕎Paslms 122🙏Pray for the peace of Jerusalem🇮🇱they will prosper that 💙🕎

[@YenneY01]

I wonder if a western woman would also be able to form very close friends with Muslims. Being aware of how women are viewed and often treated.

[@abdell75roussos]

I cant imagine how this is going to turn out.

[@cgsather3309]

Please fix typo on title of video.

[@moniqueschwarz4618]

Excuse me but Gaza is not occupied by Israel, but has been an indendent Islamic Gazans government.

[@santhiramorgan8329]

Wish you success in your political career.

[@Mark_Dyer]

The problem with Mark Durie is that he is so typical of 'academics' who infest every cathedral close in England. Often they have "studied Islam to doctoral level" (which gives them expertise over those who merely EXPERIENCE Islam), and then cannot conceive of the difference between "nice Muslims" and ISLAM. There may be "nice, kind Muslims"; but be assured Dr Durie, there is no "nice version" of ISLAM, as far as non-Muslims are concerned. The events of 7th October 2023 possibly taught these learned academics that they have, somehow, managed to miss what ISLAM is all about: despite all those years of study. What a waste! As a homosexual Christian man, who has had the privilege of sharing forty years with a gentle male atheist, we both know only too well what Islam is about. Dr Durie: have you ever heard of the formula: ISLAM = KORAN + MOHAMMED? As though the mandated scriptural literalist reading of the Koran were not bad enough (See House of Imran 3:6ff), we then have the 'example' of behaviour set by the wretched prophet of Islam, himself. ISLAM is STUCK fast in the barbaric world of the 7th Century AD. Judaism and Christianity (the only true 'Abrahamic religions') have moved on: but the aim of ISLAM remains to 'convert' the World: by the sword if necessary. Contrary to the Koran's alleged praise of 'freedom of religion'; there is none in ISLAM. It is utterly dualist: dividing humanity into Muslim (Dar al Islam) and non-Muslim (Dar al Harb). It is the job of every Muslim to wage violent JIHAD until everyone "feels himself subdued". ISLAM is a pseudo-religion: not concerned with a 'god'; but with how the Muslim may treat the non-Muslim. This makes it a POLITICAL movement: not a 'religious' one.

[@seekerout]

Spot on. As long as Muslims continue to view Mohammed as the perfect model for their own behaviour, they're stuck with a barbaric medieval mindset. And the rest of us are stuck with them. It's a conundrum for the whole world.

[@BirthingBetterSkills]

Gosh I have a LOT to say. The word 'secularism' is misused. It's an implication that people who do not share the 3 Abrahamic faiths, that they lack faith, spirituality, or religion. There are many, many, many, many other religions and faiths and people who do NOT want religion to control our Government and social fabric.

[@AlexanderMathew-ed3oj]

Crocodile tears 😭

[@R2026I]

Long time no see

[@pathacker4963]

Victimhood does not give you permission to act as inhuman rabid animals. No society can exist with people like that. In the US native Americans killed 30% of the settlers violently, in response the settlers killed 50% of the natives and neutralized the threat. Is that what Islam wants as an outcome?

[@suigeneris2663]

30:15 YES! I’ve been saying this for years! Speaking as a Christian (Catholic), this is a problem with Christianity that Judaism is able to offset. How well this will do is anyone’s guess. The Israel/“Balestine” conflict is a microcosm of the clash of East and West. This is most easily viewed through the eyes of this “international law” that newspeople, pundits, and activists are constantly crowing about. International law is not really a thing, but it by nature (via the creation of its courts, as this is usu. what those people are actually referring to) is largely based in European ideals of fairness and plain dealing. Those ideals are incompatible with Shariah, where “fairness” means Arab supremacy and “good faith” is dependent on the circumstances. These are fundamentally at odds with “western” notions of universality and humanism. Hence, “international law’s” frequent invocation among Arab nations and activists. This is a huge problem. Judaism also helps smooth out Christianity’s naïveté or resistance to what we’ve learned about the psychology of evil. I’d love to write a paper on it, but someone else has likely already beat me to the punch, lol. Gotta check out that book.

[@LoknBtweenfingaz]

The Muslim have their own international human right charters and they vote as a block in any international political discourse.

[@elena_007]

Someone said that all human problems are essentially the problems of theology. I agree.

[@PRODOS]

Thank you for this interview/discussion. I learned a lot. I'm a massive admirer of Dr Mark Durie's work and the way he comes at things.

[@bowrudder899]

Was it Yasir Qadhi's endorsement? You didn't get Yasir Qadhi's endorsement?

[@chaplainmattsanders4884]

😂

[@jiancao1523]

Muslim will never buy in the west value.

[@dd.oliver]

Hey Daniel. You had a unique research opportunity. I see you dabbling in all topics on internet. I guess if you could stick to the Quran it you would do a greater impact. Appreciate your work. Blessings.

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you, yes. I am mindful of my responsibility. I sit on an enormous quantity of material that needs to be published and worked with.

[@aniuxka2457]

Am 10 minutes into this video and have not found the substance of the descriptions. I am interested in this subject, but this video wasted a lot of time so far that I lost my interest in continuing listening.

[@JeffKohn]

Hard times coming for the West. Well said.

[@abdell75roussos]

I wish there was more people involved in this discussion. Well done, nothing but quite reflection. It was thought that Muslims would change into a quaint form of the religion, which was secular for a start. UK has MPs which are now becoming afraid to do their work. In ten years from now, it will have all come to a head in Europe with the other threats too.

[@PremjitTalwar]

Bloody hell. I gave up after 10 minutes, because I grew tired of hearing mostly the voice of the interviewer. He must be in love with the sound of his voice echoing in his head.

[@dawnsrayz]

Freedom to talk about faith - we do that in the free world. That isn’t permitted in Muslim ruled countries. They can ONLY talk about Islam. So, considering its the only topic they can talk about, it’s no wonder that is all they talk about 😏

[@U4Eye]

Sam Shamoun will be the most knowledgeable about Quran as he speaks the language snd turned to Christianity. He debates any Muslim🙏

[@bcfc18751]

Have to get the truth out there!! Without lies islam dies!!

[@theoldone3835]

Dr. Brubaker, the link to the new channel in the description is not working. It gives an error message.

[@lahleholivia7398]

The insecure are always victims. ❗

[@tzveeble1679]

Muslim ethics stem to a large part from Jewish ethics. The popular term "Judeo-Christian values" is a misnomer. Judaism and Christianity have very little in common besides the "old testament", appropriated and misinterpreted by Paulinian/Greek Christianity.

[@fabulamcafee]

why isnt the algorithmn catching up more?

[@jamessheffield4173]

Mustn't criticize that ideology.

[@nishisingh227]

That is called strategic victimhood to engineer public perception.

[@j2shoes288]

Because the Palestinians are prisoners in their own homeland!

[@infinitereachministries4279]

Subscribed to "Kindness and Truth"

[@opinion3742]

I'm gona make a swift judgement about this channel based the comment section and have nothing to do with it.