Why Do Muslims Leave Islam? | Ex Muslim & Convert FULL Discussion

Imtiaz Shams & Sofia Tsourlaki discuss why people become Ex-Muslims & what changes might be expected within Islam - hosted by the Central London Humanist Group ‪@londonhumanists‬
Imtiaz is a tech entrepreneur, human rights activist & co-founder of Faith To Faithless, an advocacy group for ex-religious people. ‪@faithtofaithless‬
Sofia is a Greek convert to Islam & a university lecturer of Islamic studies and a PhD researcher of Progressive and Feminist Islam. Her KZbin channel: ‪@ProgressiveFeministIslam‬
2:43 - Discussion starts
4:17 - Sofia's conversion story
8:57 - Imtiaz's story out of Islam
12:36 - Why do you think people leave?
28:28 - How did your family react to you converting?
31:25 - Can Ex Muslims & Muslims change how they talk?
​38:20 - Is your soul happy? Being an agnostic atheist?
41:37 - Would you recommend someone to leave Islam openly?
43:46 - Q&A begins!

[@johndecosta8722]

I left Islam two years back ..what a good decision I took

[@isaacjamaar4794]

Unfortunately there's no intellectual argument for a person to leave Islam

[@JesusisaMuslim]

Your name knows your a fake

[@northernlight8857]

@@isaacjamaar4794 There is no good intellectual argument to become mulim or stay in islam.

[@PMTalksnow]

Well done brother

[@ilj3168]

@@isaacjamaar4794 SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 3, #432: Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's messenger we said, "Oh Allah's messenger, we got female captives as our booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, #3371 Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: "O Abu Said, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interruptus)?" He said, "Yes", and added: "We went out with Allah's messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl" (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: "We are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?" So we asked Allah's messenger and he said: "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born". SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, #3432 Abu Said al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: "And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran - 4:24), HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, # 2150: Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24]. HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, #2167: Muhaririz said: "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Said al-Khudri. I sat with him and asked about withdrawing the penis (while having intercourse), Abu Said said: We went out with the Apostle of Allah on the expedition to Banu al-Mustaliq, and took some Arab women captive, and we desired the women, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, and we wanted ransom; so we intended to withdraw the penis (while having intercourse with the slave-women). But we asked ourselves: "Can we draw the penis when the apostle of Allah is among us before asking him about it?" So we asked him about it. He said, "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born."".

[@AJansenNL]

This lady sounds just like the kind of muslim I was (also a convert woman). My main focus was the Quran as well. I was very critical of ahadith and men's interpretations. In the end I was able to prick through fallacies upholding even the most liberal interpretations. Muhammad was clearly a man of his time. His message and lifestyle were clearly not for all time. Seventh century patriarchal thinking permeates the Quranic text. Including inequality between the sexes. There's nothing feminist about the Quran. You can only paint it as such with a lot of cognitive dissonance, picking and chosing the rosy ayat and ahadith, while ignoring the dark ones. "My connection with the divine is through the Quran. Not through the prophet." I'm sorry, but without the prophet there is no Quran. Else, who did these supposed revelations pass through?

[@metiusabt2581]

Indeed

[@cpsaleemyt]

True ! Converts take great liberties with Islam, in what they choose to follow in Islam. That is a "privilege ' not afforded to those born Muslims who are required to believe and follow everything in Islam, !

[@ProgressiveFeministIslam]

@@cpsaleemyt let me rephrase your thoughts. "Converts have the privilege to learn Islam from the source, exercise critical thinking on man-made interpretations and practice Islam based on its actual values. That is a privilege not afforted to those born Muslims who are required to believe and follow an Islam that is shaped by the culture and political forces of their community". Here!! I fixed it. And yes, that is absolutely right!

[@haruspex1-50]

@@ProgressiveFeministIslam not quite love. Try again

[@abdullahhussein3775]

@Sofia Tsourlaki With full respect but you are wrong. What man-made interpretations?! Quran is supposed to be the unchanged word of allah. So if a surah says a man is to beat his wife in certain situations, then it is his "holy" right. I guess with man-made interpretations you mean the false spinning some "liberal" muslims are ridiculously trying to apply that allah supposingly meant beating her with a tooth brush without actually having said it, right?! And when allah says do not take the Jews and Christians as friends in another surah, so actually allah meant be best friends... And when allah orders muslims to fight (kill) those who do not believe in alah, he meant go and party together as brothers. By the way, all islamic schools teach that ex-muslims are to be put to death. So what are you actually trying to say?! That botn muslims are not clever enough to validate islam?! This might be true for some but to generalise, it is not fair. I was born muslim and I can guarantee you that it is extremely difficult to leave islam. As an ex-muslim you are risking your life. Do you think that muslims leave islam without in-depth studying?! Again, some might but stop generalising, and trying to minimise our capability and our personal experience. And in fact, if you think you are in a better position to learn islam as a convert, so I want to remind you that thousands of concerts to islam joined the islamic caliphate of Iraq and Syria several years ago. I'm sure they would say similar things like yourself...

[@marcostation1000]

i was convertido to islam with lies 5 years ago, 4 months after that i left islam becaise i read the Quran

[@JesusisaMuslim]

Keep lying to yourself. More people are accepting Islam than any other religion in Europe and America. Pew Research saying 3 billion Muslims by 2060

[@TheMindReminder]

You’re not true with yourself and Islam.. you just left the right religion.. Their is no lie in Islam

[@ilj3168]

@@TheMindReminder SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 3, #432: Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's messenger we said, "Oh Allah's messenger, we got female captives as our booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, #3371 Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: "O Abu Said, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interruptus)?" He said, "Yes", and added: "We went out with Allah's messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl" (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: "We are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?" So we asked Allah's messenger and he said: "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born". SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, #3432 Abu Said al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: "And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran - 4:24), HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, # 2150: Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24]. HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, #2167: Muhaririz said: "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Said al-Khudri. I sat with him and asked about withdrawing the penis (while having intercourse), Abu Said said: We went out with the Apostle of Allah on the expedition to Banu al-Mustaliq, and took some Arab women captive, and we desired the women, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, and we wanted ransom; so we intended to withdraw the penis (while having intercourse with the slave-women). But we asked ourselves: "Can we draw the penis when the apostle of Allah is among us before asking him about it?" So we asked him about it. He said, "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born."".

[@ilj3168]

@@TheMindReminder Islam is full of lies

[@marcostation1000]

@@TheMindReminder quran say that sperms of men comes from the ribs and sperm of women fro. the collar bone. you agree with Alla stupidity ?

[@thenun1846]

Ex Muslim Egyptian here

[@ImtiazShams]

Ahlan wa sahlan

[@thenun1846]

@@ImtiazShams ❤

[@idontcarei]

🍀🤟

[@muhammadabdulawal6933]

Don't worry, Prophet Muhammad will always love you, no matter what you believe or disbelieve. 2 billion people who were pagans and now respect Jesus ans mary and honors them most passionately while atheists calls Jesus gay bastar and every other name on the book and muslism defend Jesus and Mary to their last drop of blood. The entire Koran is filled with praises of Jesus and actually ridiculed muhammad and has an entire chapter dedicated to Virgin Mary making her name the only women’s name mentioned in the holy book and the miracle of 19 bieng her chapter (Koran is coded with number 19 and Mary is chapter 19 of the holy Koran) Times magazine says that almost three books have been written cursing Muhammad for the last 150 years! Making the number of books written against him almost 300,000 and almost all by Christians . How many books have been written against Hitlr or Stalin ? Maybe ten to fifty after they together killed almost hundred million people. And how do Muslims react to the endless hate? By writing a thousand books praising Jesus almost worshiping his mother and respecting and defending him blindly and passionately

[@thenun1846]

@@muhammadabdulawal6933 😂😂😂 thanks for the bedtime story habibi Muhammad can love me or hate me, I couldn't care less. If he is in Janna, it will be my pleasure to go to jahanam. Also I'm well aware that Islam was invented by stealing from the Jews and Christians and a little bit of paganism. Nothing new buddy

[@ethernas7916]

“If they had got rid of APOSTASY punishment, Islam would not exist today” Dr Yusef al Qaradawi -

[@krenomichael1812]

So true

[@anastasiamamis6441]

True

[@dutchvanderlinde4969]

THIS!!

[@jesantos6976]

I totally agree

[@taoufikla]

Lmao you mean christianity 😂😂😂😂 proud to BE Muslim

[@premro]

Without lies Islam dies

[@AuthorFaizKing]

I also heard someone uttering, "Without lies Atheism dies." Is this some sort of a make-your-own meme?

[@adamshahalimahir5272]

You better read Quran n Bible before drop comments... Compare its contents which one are full of lies...

[@duhvakiin3467]

Bring forth your proof of these "lies"

[@nejlababali7901]

You wish

[@theargoslads8803]

@@nejlababali7901okay I’ve got a lie for you the scientific miracles in the Quran, that you have the original Quran, that Mecca was a major location through history, that prophets were buried in Mecca, that there’s only one Quran through history to this day, that it’s a peaceful religion, that Christiania’s and Jews where treated well by Muslims in Jerusalem… just remember Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old… he raped his Jewish slave… he lusted for and then married his adopted sons wife and then abolished adoption (how convenient)… he was accused of stealing panties by his followers 😂

[@mo_51_married_aisha_6]

Well known imam Yusuf Qaradawi said that Islam would never survive without enforcing apostasy laws.

[@Indah-tjs]

Yep that's true. Qaradawi (RIP) was one of the highest Islamic representatives of Al Azhar University in Cairo (Egypt). He also said that Islam would have disappeared long ago if capital punishment for apostasy wouldn't exist. What an embarrassing and inhumane admission! Faith is a personal matter, in which everyone decides for himself, and which can never be decreed and imposed by authorities or religious institutions. And this explains the fact that Muslims cannot survive without lies.

[@ordinarylife2343]

Like a Mafia and Gang if a member planning to leave he will be killed.

[@HassanRadwan133]

Good to see a productive and civilised discussion between an ex-Muslim & Muslim. There needs to be more of this. Thank you Imtiaz and Sofia, much respect ❤️

[@ImtiazShams]

You’re the OG when it comes to this respectful but firm stuff soooo ❤️

[@ordinarylife2343]

Leaving Islam is a gift from true God.

[@abdullahhussein3775]

I also left islam and this was after many years of an in-depth studying. And attempt trying to minimise my experience only because I was born muslim rather than to be a so called "revert" are just ridiculously arrogant and biased.

[@JesusisaMuslim]

Why don't you come on EFDAWAH and Hamzaden channels ans tell us about your so called 'in-depth studying.'

[@Kamisama77]

@@JesusisaMuslim Why should he come to liars who are living on dawah job?

[@samutykuntathebantu8402]

@@JesusisaMuslim Jesus predate Muslim and pedophile Mohammed

[@Blackpill149]

@@JesusisaMuslim Ok ask hamza or Muhammad hijab,if Allah knows everything about a persons past,present and future,why he needs the prophets and the blackstones witness that they are sinless to go to jannah?

[@Blackpill149]

@@JesusisaMuslim What kind of a god needs witness from his creation to know whether the other creation is sinless or not?Allah knows everyones past,present and future so allah should not require anyones witness.If he needs witness,which means he has not seen what i did in my life on earth.Then he is not one true god

[@xoro163]

you can eventually see her leaving islam just wait

[@Sweeti924]

You can’t be sure

[@thisissamymoustafa]

Ex Muslim from egypt ❤

[@Alexandru8846]

I have no dog in this fight as i'm neither a convert, muslim or ex muslim but i do have to say that everytime i hear an exmuslim speak they all sound very intelligent and use real arguments. Converts/muslims argue from the heart, exmuslims argue from the brain.

[@coke_d]

That is the opposite of what you said.the ones that become christians talk of seeing jesus only nothing else

[@joshuacooperseo]

@@coke_dWell at least Jesus reveals himself as real. That’s rational proof. Has Allah ever showed up in anyone’s dream?

[@coke_d]

@@joshuacooperseo a man that walked on earth? A mere man and you call him God? He couldnt even save himself when he was on the cross

[@joshuacooperseo]

@@coke_d So you’re basically saying God is limited and can’t dwell amongst his creation huh? I’m sorry you believe in a powerless God who CANT do all things including humbling himself as a sacrifice. Hebrews 9:12 He entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption. He died on his own volition 🤦🏿‍♂️. He rose three days later and his spirit ascended to heaven. He came in the IMAGE of man but fully God in spirit and in truth Flavius Josephus, a non-biblical Jewish historian wrote about the crucifixion of Christ. You have NO non-Quran sources confirming anything about Allah except that he is the pre-Islamic moon God 😂😂! WEAK!

[@joshuacooperseo]

@@coke_d HAS ALLAH REVEALED HIMSELF TO YOU IN A DREAM? No, I didn’t think so! Never have any Muslim EVER reporting Allah actually having a relationship with them 🥲. Why would you believe in an invisible God you will never see?

[@exrevert2islam]

51:50 MEN can marry and divorce as many times as they wish, WOMEN must seek a MALE judge to permit them to divorce. Feminism?!

[@ImtiazShams]

This was super experimental & hope its useful to Ex Muslims & Muslims. Be NICE don't ad hominem her or I'll delete comments

[@IshaqIbrahim3]

@Imtiaz Shams Timeline: 19:45 Did the lady forgot about the scripture references below? It looks like there is verse in the Quran about the Hijab or covering of the body. The hadiths also seem to indicate that there is Quran revelation regarding the Hijab. Surah / Chapter: Al-Ahzaab (33) Ayat / Verse: 59 Revelation Order: 90 ( 59 ) O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. Tafsir al-Jalalayn: O Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks closely over themselves jalābīb is the plural of jilbāb which is a wrap that covers a woman totally - in other words let them pull part of it also over their faces leaving one eye visible when they need to leave the house for something. That makes it likelier that they will be known to be free women and not be molested by being approached. In contrast slavegirls did not use to cover their faces and so the disbelievers used to pester them. And God is Forgiving of any occasion in the past when they may have neglected to cover themselves Merciful to them in His veiling them. Sahih al-Bukhari: 6240 Sahih al-Bukhari: Book 79, Hadith 14 Sahih al-Bukhari: Vol. 8, Book 74, Hadith 257 79 Asking Permission. (10)Chapter: The Divine Verse of Al-Hijab. Narrated `Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) `Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam`a went out and she was a tall woman. `Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while he was in a gathering, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He (`Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1) Sahih Muslim: 2170d Sahih Muslim: Book 39, Hadith 25 Sahih Muslim: Book 26, Hadith 5397 39 The Book of Greetings (7)Chapter: The Permissibility Of Women Going Out To Relieve Themselves 'A'isha reported that the wives of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to go out in the cover of night when they went to open fields (in the outskirts of Medina) for easing themselves. 'Umar b Khattab used to say: Allah's Messenger, ask your ladies to observe veil, but Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) did not do that. So there went out Sauda, daughter of Zarn'a, the wife of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), during one of the nights when it was dark. She was a tall statured lady. 'Umar called her saying: Sauda, we recognise you. (He did this with the hope that the verses pertaining to veil would be revealed.) 'A'isha said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, then revealed the verses pertaining to veil. Sahih al-Bukhari: 4483 Sahih al-Bukhari: Book 65, Hadith 10 Sahih al-Bukhari: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 10 65 Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh)) (9)"...And take you (people) the Maqam (place) of Ibrähim (Abraham) (or the stone on which Ibrãhim LiI stood while he was building the Ka'bah) as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers, e.g. two Rak'at after the Tawaf of Ka'bah) . . ." (V.2:125). Narrated Anas: `Umar said, "I agreed with Allah in three things," or said, "My Lord agreed with me in three things. I said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Would that you took the station of Abraham as a place of prayer.' I also said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Good and bad persons visit you! Would that you ordered the Mothers of the believers to cover themselves with veils.' So the Divine Verses of Al-Hijab (i.e. veiling of the women) were revealed. I came to know that the Prophet (ﷺ) had blamed some of his wives so I entered upon them and said, 'You should either stop (troubling the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or else Allah will give His Apostle better wives than you.' When I came to one of his wives, she said to me, 'O `Umar! Does Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) haven't what he could advise his wives with, that you try to advise them?' " Thereupon Allah revealed:-- "It may be, if he divorced you (all) his Lord will give him instead of you, wives better than you Muslims (who submit to Allah).." (66.5)

[@ProgressiveFeministIslam]

It was trully a wonderful evening! Thank you!

[@exrevert2islam]

Hey Imitiaz, How can I contact you? I have a very interesting conversion and deconversion story I'd like to share with you. Let me know. Thanks. 👍🏽

[@ImtiazShams]

@@exrevert2islam [e-mail] should work!

[@anshuparashar730]

Pl debate with Adam seeker he can tell reality

[@KenadoCC]

Learning science and Islam in to its real roots and the sharia makes many leave Islam, also seeing visions and dreams where Jesus appears, and shows them out of Islam. Much of leaving Islam has to do with learning history and the Arabic reading of what is in the Quran and the Hadith.

[@rafeeeefar]

If Islam brings you peace then so be it, but remember it actually means submission.

[@blackstar-cg1se]

No Islam means SURENDER.

[@blackstar-cg1se]

Mohamed was not a prophet ,Islam means SURENDER. And not submit.

[@namelesshunter4714]

@@blackstar-cg1se nope islam means submission coz you are not allowed to have opinion every explanation from islam teaching must from schoolars.

[@ilj3168]

@@blackstar-cg1se SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 3, #432: Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's messenger we said, "Oh Allah's messenger, we got female captives as our booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, #3371 Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: "O Abu Said, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interruptus)?" He said, "Yes", and added: "We went out with Allah's messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl" (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: "We are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?" So we asked Allah's messenger and he said: "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born". SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, #3432 Abu Said al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: "And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran - 4:24), HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, # 2150: Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24]. HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, #2167: Muhaririz said: "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Said al-Khudri. I sat with him and asked about withdrawing the penis (while having intercourse), Abu Said said: We went out with the Apostle of Allah on the expedition to Banu al-Mustaliq, and took some Arab women captive, and we desired the women, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, and we wanted ransom; so we intended to withdraw the penis (while having intercourse with the slave-women). But we asked ourselves: "Can we draw the penis when the apostle of Allah is among us before asking him about it?" So we asked him about it. He said, "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born."".

[@truth9415]

Islam means surrender by violent measures. Satanic religion. War religion.

[@prodr5029]

This lady would make interesting conversation with Christian Prince of KZbin on the topic of Islam. Can anyone arrange this event to happen..

[@danielesu7747]

They’re all scared of CP

[@shaheedkareem9700]

@@danielesu7747 how is anyone going to scared of a complete imbecile who has his followers fooled 😂😂

[@atonioapikotoa2719]

No one wanna depate with Christian Prince..hhhh

[@andreeghossein4758]

@@atonioapikotoa2719 Exactly!!

[@MJ-xk8td]

I was thinking exactly the same.. She should talk to CP !!!

[@loveiseverything5367]

To much violence in Islam. I'm from Indonesia and there is so much going on here.

[@mimachan2557]

did prophet mohammad did any violence ?!? did he killed any innocent human being ?! did he force anything ?! nooo , he was ignoring the haters , not like those extremists ,those people are not following the real teachings of islam’s .

[@tanishqkumar1250]

i hope the buddhists and hindus are safe in indonesia. indonasia is a such a beautiful nation and has a wonderful culture. i hope your nation does not become a sharia nation like afghanistan.

[@cypriot_amazigh]

@@mimachan2557 what happen at al-uhud? Why muhammad get teeth knocked out there? Who is Abu Lahab and why surah al-masad entirely about killing him and his wife?

[@fernandovriese6409]

@@mimachan2557he had s e x with a 9 year old child

[@matheussalim5652]

Imagine if you would have stayed Buddhist, how beautiful your country would be! Coming from a Christian

[@colsartech9261]

She liked Islam because she met someone who is a muslim and he was sweet. In fact all muslims are sweet because if a muslim converts anyone he will go to Jannat (easy ticket). This fake mask of being sweet by a muslim is a very strategic move to cheat non believers and convert them into their fake deen.

[@naiguennarrainen1126]

I have to add that the sweet man have sweet money also :-)

[@Sweeti924]

@@naiguennarrainen1126don’t go that far But the comment was on spot

[@Sweeti924]

This!!!

[@Thirst-4knowledge]

What is the basis for your claim that converting others will give you the key to jannah???? God says " for every atom of good deed you will be rewarded and for every atom of bad deed you will be punished for"

[@contra7631]

Very true.

[@ranjitkujur3067]

Mohammad received the message but Jesus was born with the message infact Jesus is the message himself

[@jeanclaudepierrot2971]

Muhammad didn't receive any messages or revelations but fabricated his own distortions of Christian and Jewish scriptures.

[@m.e.k3172]

amen

[@Xyz3.14]

Acha Punjab vale nye nye converted ho kya.

[@AuthorFaizKing]

You're not wrong, Koranically speaking.

[@saraoostrum300]

No matter what JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN. His name is above all ❤

[@emmytones8311]

Islam is ashamed, embarrassed, and don't want either Muslims and nonbelievers to learn the depth and truth of many many of Islamic teachings from the Quran and hadith... Without lies Islam dies.

[@clashwithfriendscolony7195]

Le muslim: giving free dawah and distributing quran

[@Rationality4Life]

@@discovernewthings1415 Most wicked people? Your prophet did many vile and wicked things

[@Rationality4Life]

@@discovernewthings1415 He doesn't exist. What all moral God allows degenerate and harmful things like child marraiges, inbreeding, s*x slaves,etc. The Quran is full of scientific mistakes, illogical and inconsistent ideas and plagiarism. I have no doubt that the religion is false.

[@Rationality4Life]

@@discovernewthings1415 You are the one that is delusional. Your God allows horrible, disgusting things. It's common sense at this point that the things I mentioned in my previous comment are extremely harmful to society yet you believe blindly without questioning. It seems you don't have the capacity to think critically.

[@Rationality4Life]

@@discovernewthings1415 Actully you'll be the one that realizes that in the end your whole belief was nothing more than a man made lie. You literally aren't able to think critically. You are a blind believer unfortunately that can't see other perspectives

[@andys3035]

Wait, this sister left Holy Orthodoxy for Islam? That's nuts.

[@demonslayer784]

Please support all ex muslims Adam seeker Urdu & Ex muslim sahil Follow these channels and put your arguments here

[@liaunic9961]

Christian prince should help this lady

[@andreeghossein4758]

100/00 To understand the quran go to CP....

[@Bunyourdesires]

@@andreeghossein4758😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@factuallogical]

Great work is going on 👏👏🎊🎉 congratulations to all ex muslims and apostates welcome to humanity 🎉🎊

[@Indah-tjs]

Well said 😊👍👍

[@youtubemimoo2429]

Lady speaking against hijab while herself in hijab 😂 hypocrite….if you don’t like so-called restrictions, then why are you wearing hijab ? And see what Quran says about Hijab : وَ لاَ يُبْدِيْنَ زِيْنَتَهُنَّ إِلاَّ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَ لْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلىَ جُيُوْبِهِنَّ... “...and not display their beauty except what is apparent, and they should place their khumur over their bosoms...” (Al Noor , 24:31). (1) What Is The Meaning Of “Khumur” Used In This Verse? Khumur خُمُرٌ is plural of khimarخِمَارٌ , the veil covering the head. See any Arabic dictionary like Lisanu ’l-‘Arab, Majma‘u ’l-Bahrayn or al-Munjid.

[@TS-zd2ud]

It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8

[@youtubemimoo2429]

@@TS-zd2ud does that even make sense ....he died for your sins. 😂 Couldn't he forgive otherwise ...was this act necessary , getting humiliated and then saying that I died for your sins 😂

[@TS-zd2ud]

All religions presented themselves as Llies when they denied Jesus his sacrifice! God is holy and therefore inevitably always righteous. So God can never be merciful, gracious, because grace is not justice and therefore is wrong! A holy God can only be holy if he Never does wrong !! So Fact is without Jesus his SACRIFICE out of love for us we would all be lost! Only YHWH is not lying when he says he is HOLY and merciful! Who is YHWH equal? Exactly no one!! JESUS gave himself as a sin offering !! A pure life for a life !! Because we have to be holy = without guilt otherwise God will judge us fair and just !! Jesus is YHWH and thus the Creator of everything and thus has the weight to wash the whole creation clean with these pure lives (Blood) !! God bless you

[@phobictoeverything]

She is so wrong in everyway She says Quran makes sense once u read the previous books I.e the Bible but doesn't Muslims believe the Bible is corrupt? And even if it's not, the Bible is a total different book which totally disagree with every teachings of Quran

[@Bunyourdesires]

Some aspects are truth

[@adabekee4964]

@@Bunyourdesires How about giving us a list of aspects that are true? Oh wait, you don't have that because your Allah did not bother to reveal it.

[@phobictoeverything]

@Unknwn_Source Can I also just cherry pick verses in the Quran that agrees with me and leave out the part where Allah or Muhammad is supposed to be a God and the creator of God (Muhammad)?

[@Bunyourdesires]

@@phobictoeverything verses like?

[@bunjijumper5345]

79 left Islam and became vegan that is someone I would like to know!❤️

[@jamalkhan3708]

I am from Pakistan and few years ago I have left Islam and converted to Christianity. Jesus Christ is my Lord and savior.

[@demonslayer784]

Go to Adam seeker Urdu channel we would love to hear your story please i request.

[@ayeshasxiestmuhammadrapist5534]

@@demonslayer784he is true islam is fake religion artificial things

[@mimachan2557]

1- Jesus is a human like us , how he could be a god ,logically ?!? islam god is more powerful . Sura 112: AL-IKHLAS (SINCERITY) - Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born Nor is there to Him any equivalent." 2-allah is fair , he knows every single things happening in this life & he will judge everyones , God is Forgiving, Merciful and severe in punishment , he knows the amounts , you dont want to be equal an evill , correct ?!

[@demonslayer784]

@@mimachan2557 go to that channel and put your arguments there

[@demonslayer784]

@@mimachan2557 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3ivhp6BZbSLjsk

[@sagpillai]

Sofia Tsourlaki is full of contradictions, just like the koran. She says the prophet was of his time, however, Islam says he came for all mankind and is applicable for today. Then she says she doesn't worship Muhammad, but only Allah. If that is the case then why is Muhammad on equal terms with Allah in their prayers? Then she says you shouldn't really follow the hadiths but only the koran, yet she then quotes a hadith that Muhammad supposedly is a feminist!! This lady should take the advice of Aisha and not deranged misogynist. In Sahih al-Bukhari 5825, Aisha said: "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing (Muslim) women."

[@DrAdamAckerman]

I left Islam when I was 3 years old. It didn't fit with my philosophical naturalistic world view.

[@ShebaFriday]

3 years ago or when you are 3 years old? Which one

[@cypriot_amazigh]

As a child in cyprus my grandmother always said the nice muslim is like a viper, they strike first. But it rhymes in our dialect. She also called muslim, not matter turk or lebanese or wherever, αθίγγανος, athinganos or gypsy. Too much history of fighting in cyprus between nations and religions. My great, great grandfather was also taken as a child and became mamluk for ottomans. My point being its weird to see Έλληνας, greek person, become a muslim. Life is learning my friends.

[@happydillpickle]

Yes, it's strange. It's strange to see a Jewish convert to Islam too, but not unheard of.

[@northernlight8857]

Interesting conversation. Thank you for sharing.

[@anshuparashar730]

According to quran, she has half intelligence

[@1WarWhooper]

Not only does she have half intelligence but she will die and go to hell then Jesus will have mercy on her on the last day if she did good then Jesus will take her to Jannah. 🤣🤣🤣 what joke of the centuries unborn.

[@adm2399]

Which is way more than Men involved in breaking the rule of God.

[@inkyfingers3447]

Why didn’t she discuss the wisdom of breastfeeding an adult man?

[@adm2399]

@@inkyfingers3447 Perhaps the same reason you don't discuss blaming Prophet Lot and his noble daughters commit adultery.

[@Blackpill149]

@@adm2399 I am not christian but according to bible,prophet lot did not have sex with his daughters.His daughters made him drunk and had sex with him.He was high and senseless.It was rape not consensual

[@RamBo-yh3kz]

A pedophile as a prophet doesnt work for me.

[@haruspex1-50]

A slave trader prophet doesn’t work for me either

[@unmaskingtruthophobes7729]

A man who married his adopted son's wife as prophet doesn't work for me...

[@soulin8520]

A prophet , who sells woman & Man doesn't work for me.

[@ilj3168]

SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 3, #432: Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's messenger we said, "Oh Allah's messenger, we got female captives as our booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, #3371 Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: "O Abu Said, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interruptus)?" He said, "Yes", and added: "We went out with Allah's messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl" (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: "We are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?" So we asked Allah's messenger and he said: "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born". SAHIH MUSLIM, VOLUME 2, #3432 Abu Said al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: "And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran - 4:24), HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, # 2150: Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24]. HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, #2167: Muhaririz said: "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Said al-Khudri. I sat with him and asked about withdrawing the penis (while having intercourse), Abu Said said: We went out with the Apostle of Allah on the expedition to Banu al-Mustaliq, and took some Arab women captive, and we desired the women, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, and we wanted ransom; so we intended to withdraw the penis (while having intercourse with the slave-women). But we asked ourselves: "Can we draw the penis when the apostle of Allah is among us before asking him about it?" So we asked him about it. He said, "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born."".

[@JesusisaMuslim]

Have you studied child marriages in West. Your forefathers were marrying kids 100 years ago in Europe and America

[@knowledgeseeker7039]

They brought up her here for propoganda, because many people are leaving Islam now days.... remember Andrew tate.he was also a propoganda,and she is the same

[@samiraaman407]

It's lovely that the sister took the initiative to clarify misconcepts about Islam but unfortunately she got some information wrong. The first story she spoke about was of actually about Prophet Musa(moses) and not Abraham. I see why brother Imtiaz would have seen her as a fantastic opponent to juststify his reasons for leaving Islam. One of the biggest excuse that muslims who dont follow the quranic message by the book have, not only ex Muslims is that "well I find Muslims hypocritical, they don't follow their religion" Time and time again, in so many verses of the quran Allah(God) says to the Muslims after stating a fact" have you no sense? " "do you not reflect? " we were never to make sense through people's actions. Because man is on a test himself so how can he be perfect. And if the Muslims around you are not practising right, what stopped you from practising Islam right and being the good example??? Instead you walked away because you did not want to follow the rules. Simple as that . Its unfortunate you have such a following of blind leading the blind. We all have a choice. I love what the sister started off by saying the only way to understand Islam is reading the quran NOT Following people. And the quran says Allah guides whom He wills so a Muslim is only a Muslim because Allah the irresistible willed it. Am sad for you that you lost that favour.

[@itachi7285]

Your viewpoints would have been valid if only the quran was a book of truth and proper morals. Instead we have a book of fantasies conjured by a mentally ill man who wanted to use religion for his own desires and social reforms. Yes I'm talking about Muhammed.

[@mehrourbadloe8339]

Well said brother I am a Muslim by birth and choice I challenge David wood and all others to try to convert me

[@Planet_Traverse]

Whenever I hear from an ex-Christian that they left Christianity for Islam when "I started thinking rationally" I cant help but cringe. Theres nothing rational about Islam.

[@warsamerashid4694]

So Worshiping a man that went to the toilet like me is rational? Ok 👍

[@michaelalan5520]

cbrasil, Then, don't bother for Islam. Live your life. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially in the West without your opinion.

[@youtubemimoo2429]

Lady speaking against hijab while herself in hijab 😂 hypocrite….if you don’t like so-called restrictions, then why are you wearing hijab ? And see what Quran says about Hijab : وَ لاَ يُبْدِيْنَ زِيْنَتَهُنَّ إِلاَّ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَ لْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلىَ جُيُوْبِهِنَّ... “...and not display their beauty except what is apparent, and they should place their khumur over their bosoms...” (Al Noor , 24:31). (1) What Is The Meaning Of “Khumur” Used In This Verse? Khumur خُمُرٌ is plural of khimarخِمَارٌ , the veil covering the head. See any Arabic dictionary like Lisanu ’l-‘Arab, Majma‘u ’l-Bahrayn or al-Munjid.

[@YouYou-sm8tf]

@@warsamerashid4694 So you think someone who go to toilet like you can’t be worshipped? If Shaytan don’t go to toilet like you, he is worth of worship? May JESUS CHRIST forgive you on the day of Judgement.

[@PeaceToAll-sl1db]

they leave for sex - they convert for marriage

[@cpsaleemyt]

Just some initial observations ( before watxhing the entire video) Does Islam bring " comfort " and " meaning and purpose " to many ? Arguable ! ! But is Islam true and based on facts ? No argument possible there, my opinion, as an Ex- Muslim!

[@Indah-tjs]

Both questions can only be answered with an unequivocal NO.

[@demonslayer784]

Look Adam seeker Urdu channel on KZbin

[@demonslayer784]

Support ex-muslims 🙌

[@iyepmamun2315]

There are so many few muslims leaving their religion .

[@thingsthinks1611]

Watch Christian prince eye opening Videos in KZbin.

[@andreeghossein4758]

Yes Many Muslims after watching CP video are shocked from the verses & hadith, many of them traduced incorrectly from arabic to english...

[@labranehit7687]

This talk was very interesting. It's not often to see those very tolerant talkes between Muslims and ex-muslims.

[@karamhaikhudaka]

How have I not subscribed or seen your channel yet? I saved the video to watch later :)

[@jasonlegi]

Feminist Muslim is an oxymoron. Makes no sense.

[@anastasiamamis6441]

Praise the Lord, halleluyah. Christian Prince, Rob Christian and Sam Shomoun channel is good to listen too..and bring back many lost soul back to the true path. God blessed you all. Jesus is the Way,the Truth and the Life.

[@youtubemimoo2429]

😅 Jesus PBuh

[@bkargic87]

What's wrong with you Sam shamoun is arrogant wife beater

[@MedoviRitse-xf9jf]

Praise the Lord

[@GodisalwaysgoodW]

praise lord

[@anshuparashar730]

She is not making eye contact, doesn't look credible

[@disguiseddogie7954]

Just discovered this channel do a collab with apostaye alladin I left islam 2 years ago may 2020

[@Bunyourdesires]

And millions have joined 👏👏

[@riittasaarinen7288]

Islamophobia = common sense

[@Chauarayam_Id]

thank you, i will sare this to my indonesian muslim friends, may I?

[@TheMindReminder]

Show what Islam is the truth

[@ImtiazShams]

Absolutely ❤️

[@jinn_1891]

This was a nice conversation... ...Well done 👏 both of you 👏

[@youtubemimoo2429]

Lady speaking against hijab while herself in hijab 😂 hypocrite….if you don’t like so-called restrictions, then why are you wearing hijab ? And see what Quran says about Hijab : وَ لاَ يُبْدِيْنَ زِيْنَتَهُنَّ إِلاَّ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَ لْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلىَ جُيُوْبِهِنَّ... “...and not display their beauty except what is apparent, and they should place their khumur over their bosoms...” (Al Noor , 24:31). (1) What Is The Meaning Of “Khumur” Used In This Verse? Khumur خُمُرٌ is plural of khimarخِمَارٌ , the veil covering the head. See any Arabic dictionary like Lisanu ’l-‘Arab, Majma‘u ’l-Bahrayn or al-Munjid.

[@jinn_1891]

@@youtubemimoo2429 You: preacher Me: choir

[@youtubemimoo2429]

@@jinn_1891 only way to confront muslims is to pay the charlatans and befool the Christians 🙈

[@FunnyVideos51836]

Women can wear better clothes to cover body perfectly without wearing hijabs and burqas also.it is not necessary to wear or accepting Islam.🙏🙏

[@JesusisaMuslim]

No one cares what you think.

[@TheMindReminder]

You lack knowledge that’s your human thinking.. but God says cover your hair.. even in the Bible it’s says cover your hair 1 Corinthians 11:6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

[@namelesshunter4714]

@@TheMindReminder its about cover women hair when praying bcoz women hair is crown full of god grace,why u muslim never read the full verse.

[@TheMindReminder]

@@namelesshunter4714 yeah I read the full verse.. were by the Bible fall too give you full details.. which the Quran gives It’s right for a woman too protect her self Society have really blinded you’ll You should’ve told mother of Jesus not too cover her body every time When Mary Magdalene met Jesus she started covering her safe Anyways Islam is the right religion. Take it or leave You’ll just be hating Islam for stupid reasons because Islam stopped so many nonsense things going in this world.. if Islam take over the worlds many things will change no more sins

[@andrewphillips6853]

@@TheMindReminder U are Mindless Zombie to attack my scriptures IDIOT

[@youtubemimoo2429]

Lady speaking against hijab while herself in hijab 😂 hypocrite….if you don’t like so-called restrictions, then why are you wearing hijab ? And see what Quran says about Hijab : وَ لاَ يُبْدِيْنَ زِيْنَتَهُنَّ إِلاَّ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَ لْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلىَ جُيُوْبِهِنَّ... “...and not display their beauty except what is apparent, and they should place their khumur over their bosoms...” (Al Noor , 24:31). (1) What Is The Meaning Of “Khumur” Used In This Verse? Khumur خُمُرٌ is plural of khimarخِمَارٌ , the veil covering the head. See any Arabic dictionary like Lisanu ’l-‘Arab, Majma‘u ’l-Bahrayn or al-Munjid.

[@riazijabar5296]

Ex muslim atheist here , keep your work done bro good job 👌👌👏👏👍👍💪

[@JohnSmith-ne4zg]

The Quran does say don't drink alcohol but on the other hand it also says men can beat there wives,I wonder if your guest has read this

[@kuokwong7959]

Would love to see Sophia debate with Christian prince

[@motivationking9846]

yes it will be amazing 😂🔥 Cp just know too much even more than their imams and sheikhs

[@krenomichael1812]

Good idea. Her ignorance of Islam will be revealed

[@kuokwong7959]

@leo lou you mean a good spanking?

[@motivationking9846]

@leo lou no I don't agree. Cp don't mock people he mocks their ideology. When someone tries to be over smart only then he does that .And if you'll be honest and calm with him . He'll be the same . There are so many videos where Muslims wanted to learn and he was calm and always respectful

[@sm0k3r15]

@@motivationking9846 Mr Prince is the best.

[@Userinterfaceexperience]

I love hearing people's lived experiences. ❤

[@KenadoCC]

No, the hijab is in the Hadith, and if you don't follow the hadith, then you are not a Muslim, according to the highest scholars. You left Islam already.

[@jj-yi1ne]

stop trying to force christianity onto people

[@MuhammadIqbal-rq1mk]

Religion is not an intrinsic part of us, it's a gained knowledge, it may be a byproduct of other traits but it's not some kind if natural occurring phenomenon. 2ndly if you decipher scriptures in a way to find the meaning that resonates with your values and ethics then i am sure every religion and relating scriptures will provide you with this opportunity.

[@MIZANAWI]

Your English is good but not your idea. If religion means obedience to a higher entity, then why do children intuitively recognise a creator? You can look at research in this regard, such as Oxford university. Your 2nd point is no different. You stated every scripture to resonate with the value and ethics to everyone. I don't know what you tried to emphasize. Religion and religious scriptures are in fact the sources of morality and ethics, but how can one inlay his own morality and ethics? Enlighten me please

[@RANDOMSANDWICHGUY]

Religion is absolutely a naturally occuring phenomenon. Humans have made up myths and legends with supernatural characters for hundreds of thousands of years. There is nothing strange or unexplainable about this.

[@MuhammadIqbal-rq1mk]

One of most competing theory of religion according to evolutionary psychology is that religion is a by-product of a collection of distinct cognitive adaptations designed for nonreligious functions. So what are these cognitive adaptations of which religion is understood to be a by-product? First is hyperactive agency detection device, which leads us to infer that unseen forces are human agents, for example we mistake shadow for a burglar--an error management mechanism that helps us to avoid getting robbed. This adaptation leads to misapplied anthropomorphism, as we say "the sun is trying to come out" or "the clouds look angry." Clouds and skies, of course, dont have agency, yet we attribute humankike motivation to them as if they were agents with agendas. Again, it is a small step to infer a god with humanlike agency. Even children have what is called 'promiscuous teleology' the tendency to attribute purposes to people, groups, societies, cultures, mother earth, the universe, and god. The 2nd adaptation is 'theory of mind adaptation' by which we infer unseen believe, desires and intentions in other people. It is small extrapolation to go from " there are people watching me who have a desire for my well-being " to " there is an all-seeing god watching me who has a desire for my wellbeing " Next comes the attachment system, which originally evolved in the context of mother-child bond for protection and nurturance. A two years old reaching out to a mother to be soothed bears resemblance to a worshiper reaching out to a god. Religion also commonly activate our evolved kin psychology (according to islam all muslim men are brothers etc). There are few other adaptations too which known to cause the advent of religion in human history. Now come the 2nd part of learning ethics and values from religion, it's very clear from individual differences in the way people infer different meanings from the scriptures due to value system they already have instilled in them through humanism, for example a modern muslim living in west will very highly unlikely dive into scriptures and came out with the same values as a arab villager who dont know anything about modern ethics, a muslim feminist (it's oxymoronic but yet widely used) living in west will never infer the same conclusions from surah nisa as what some arab mufti will construe. Actually if you listen to her she is saying the same thing that semi-literate zealots have destroyed islam through irrational exegesis, which exactly corroborate my point too.

[@sol_princeyt7833]

Your 2nd point is invalid because only Islam is the most practiced, followed and meaningful religion, you look no christain follow his religion, evem the religious one don't follow completly, other religions have no bases, I agree Islam have sects but that too they all belive in same basic beliefs only some interpretations are different

[@chrislister570]

Wow! The mental gymnastics are strong with this one.

[@franciscobarreto6512]

Also, there is a chapter is in the Koran that says this. If we look a Surah 9 v 94, which says if you are in doubt of Islam you can leave.

[@jamescolombo2775]

I am/was a convert, masjid never helped me learn about islam and i was totally isolated. im now thinking god did not want me to take this path., there is no support at all for converts to islam and no social groups. BTW im in london uk and I am now considering judaism

[@ChristianPhilosemite]

Consider Jesus the Messiah. Read what He said in the Gospels. God bless :)

[@harminderkaur8519]

I m a Sikh and we don't seek or market our religion but i experience deep peace and uplifted through meditation and living based on compassionate and kindness.

[@peterspiderman971]

If you want to know what is Islam, you watch Christian Prince.... He tells you as it is..... No Taqiya....straight from the text.... No sugar coating..... If you want to know which is the true words of God between quran n Bible, watch Sam Samoun videos..... Use your God's given common sense to make yr own judgement...... Actually it is veey wasy to make yr choice. Just study both icon.... Muhammad and Jesus Christ moral conducts.....

[@Rico-Suave_]

Converting to Islam from Christianity sounds very reasonable because Islam is just the New New Testament

[@argan1509]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@samramnitpoetry5814]

This lady saidcthat she only follow Quran and not Mogammad but she never toldcwhat she found in Quran that was so unique and beautiful and different then Christianity to convert to Islam.

[@tns8022]

If she had known her bible she wouldn't have left for Islam

[@andreeghossein4758]

Christianity is # of Islam Christianity is peace & love Islam is hatress, racist & fake

[@happydillpickle]

She had a violent, alcoholic husband who put her in hospital every month due to his violence against her. She likes the abstinence from alcohol part, but correct me if I am wrong, there's no equivalent of Surah An Nisa 34 in the Christian Bible? And I wonder what her interpretation of beat them (lightly, if necessary) is, considering the addition in parentheses is not included in the Arabic text.

[@HassanRadwan133]

وَأَمَّا الْغُلامُ فَكَانَ أَبَوَاهُ مُؤْمِنَيْنِ فَخَشِينَا أَن يُرْهِقَهُمَا طُغْيَانًا وَكُفْرًا And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. (18:80)

[@AuthorFaizKing]

Khidr (Metatron), who was responsible for the child's death, was not bound by human laws or principles. He's an Angel/Alien.

[@Sweeti924]

@@AuthorFaizKingthere is always excuse

[@onomatopoeia6787]

Please collaborate with ExMuslim Sahil official. He has 170K subscribers.

[@yazifjamaludin7363]

My suggestion, invite scholar of Hadis and perform dialog like this. Maybe you can see overview how categories of hadis.

[@alendakala1303]

'Bismillah, allahumma janniba ashshaitan,wajannib ash shaitana ma razaqtana' she knows whats the meaning.

[@IshaqIbrahim3]

@Imtiaz Shams Timeline: 19:45 Did the lady forgot about the scripture references below? It looks like there is verse in the Quran about the Hijab or covering of the body. The hadiths also seem to indicate that there is Quran revelation regarding the Hijab. Surah / Chapter: Al-Ahzaab (33) Ayat / Verse: 59 Revelation Order: 90 ( 59 ) O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. Tafsir al-Jalalayn: O Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks closely over themselves jalābīb is the plural of jilbāb which is a wrap that covers a woman totally - in other words let them pull part of it also over their faces leaving one eye visible when they need to leave the house for something. That makes it likelier that they will be known to be free women and not be molested by being approached. In contrast slavegirls did not use to cover their faces and so the disbelievers used to pester them. And God is Forgiving of any occasion in the past when they may have neglected to cover themselves Merciful to them in His veiling them. Sahih al-Bukhari: 6240 Sahih al-Bukhari: Book 79, Hadith 14 Sahih al-Bukhari: Vol. 8, Book 74, Hadith 257 79 Asking Permission. (10)Chapter: The Divine Verse of Al-Hijab. Narrated `Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) `Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam`a went out and she was a tall woman. `Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while he was in a gathering, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He (`Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1) Sahih Muslim: 2170d Sahih Muslim: Book 39, Hadith 25 Sahih Muslim: Book 26, Hadith 5397 39 The Book of Greetings (7)Chapter: The Permissibility Of Women Going Out To Relieve Themselves 'A'isha reported that the wives of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to go out in the cover of night when they went to open fields (in the outskirts of Medina) for easing themselves. 'Umar b Khattab used to say: Allah's Messenger, ask your ladies to observe veil, but Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) did not do that. So there went out Sauda, daughter of Zarn'a, the wife of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), during one of the nights when it was dark. She was a tall statured lady. 'Umar called her saying: Sauda, we recognise you. (He did this with the hope that the verses pertaining to veil would be revealed.) 'A'isha said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, then revealed the verses pertaining to veil. Sahih al-Bukhari: 4483 Sahih al-Bukhari: Book 65, Hadith 10 Sahih al-Bukhari: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 10 65 Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh)) (9)"...And take you (people) the Maqam (place) of Ibrähim (Abraham) (or the stone on which Ibrãhim LiI stood while he was building the Ka'bah) as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers, e.g. two Rak'at after the Tawaf of Ka'bah) . . ." (V.2:125). Narrated Anas: `Umar said, "I agreed with Allah in three things," or said, "My Lord agreed with me in three things. I said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Would that you took the station of Abraham as a place of prayer.' I also said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Good and bad persons visit you! Would that you ordered the Mothers of the believers to cover themselves with veils.' So the Divine Verses of Al-Hijab (i.e. veiling of the women) were revealed. I came to know that the Prophet (ﷺ) had blamed some of his wives so I entered upon them and said, 'You should either stop (troubling the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or else Allah will give His Apostle better wives than you.' When I came to one of his wives, she said to me, 'O `Umar! Does Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) haven't what he could advise his wives with, that you try to advise them?' " Thereupon Allah revealed:-- "It may be, if he divorced you (all) his Lord will give him instead of you, wives better than you Muslims (who submit to Allah).." (66.5)

[@ProgressiveFeministIslam]

The Qur'anic references are a suggestion, not an order. They also have a specific context and very specific details (those garments women were already wearing, had to be brought forward) that have nothing to do with hijab, chador, burkas etc. The Tafseer is simply the opinion of a medieval male, not the words of Allah. It is the means men weaponise to distort the Qur'an. As for hadith, I won't even get bothered with the references offered. I just published a video in my channel about hadith criticism, kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnXZZ3mDpJ1ka7s. Two more will follow on presenting Abu Hureira and Abu Bakra, to showcase how, even hadith listed as "strong" are highly questionable. I strongly suggest you watch them.

[@IshaqIbrahim3]

​@@ProgressiveFeministIslam You said { Qur'anic references are a suggestion }. Can you please show me where the Quran said it is a suggestion? I couldn't find the word suggestion in the translation. The statement "O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments" sounds like command and can easily be misunderstood as commands instead of suggestion as you said. If it is suggestion, I will be expecting something like "O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments if they want to do it". { They also have a specific context and very specific details }. Can you please show me the context? The verse didn't specify context that say it is for a specific time or location. Are you saying that the verse has expired or it is not valid for today? What is the scripture reference that indicate the verse is for specific time and period and it is not valid for today? You said { those garments women were already wearing, had to be brought forward that have nothing to do with hijab }. I thought the garments you are talking about is to cover the entire body. Help me understand the logic here. The garments are to cover the entire body. The Hijab is also to cover the entire body. But Hijab has nothing to do with covering the body. The logic that I can understand is if the garments are to cover the entire body and the Hijab is also to cover the entire body, then garments = Hijab. But if the garments are not to cover the entire body and the Hijab is to cover the entire body, then garments is not the same as Hijab. { The Tafseer is simply the opinion of a medieval male, not the words of Allah }. Where did you get this information, I really want to know. The tafsir Jalalayn that I put there did not say it is the opinion of medieval male. Tafsirs like Qortobi, ibn kathir, ibn abbas, Tabari etc. never mentioned that. Is this statement your opinion or is it from Islamic scriptures? You said { It is the means men weaponise to distort the Qur'an. } I am a man and I have never written any Tafsir, Hadith or any other Islamic scriptures. I only quote sources that are considered authentic. How did you come to the conclusion that I distorted the Quran? Why did you say that Hafs, Warsh, Qortobi, ibn kathir, ibn abbas, Tabari, bukhari, Muslim etc. distorted the Quran? Do you have the original Quran that has not been distorted by these people? Or do you have evidence that showed Hafs, Warsh, Qortobi, ibn kathir, ibn abbas, Tabari, bukhari, Muslim etc. distorted or corrupted the Quran? Based on what I learned from Islamic scholars, the label authentic is not for decoration. It is added because the Hadiths have passed a rigorous tests and verification before they are added to the collection. So, a single or more Hadith found in the collection that is false will make the entire collection unreliable or not trustworthy because it violates the "authentic" label attached to it. Your comments seem to imply that there are false or fake Hadiths in the authentic hadith collection. Based on your comments it sounds like you said the authentic hadith collections are not reliable contrary to what Islamic scholars claim of authenticity. Is this a fair conclusion of your statement?

[@TruthNgullie]

@@IshaqIbrahim3 So According to "hadith" Mohammad received hijab revelation from "Umar bin -Al-khattab. Shahi Al-Bukhari, :-1:4;148.

[@TheMindReminder]

@@TruthNgullie I don’t understand human beings making their own laws When God himself said it cover your head even in the Bible it’s says women cover your head 1 Corinthians 11:6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

[@TruthNgullie]

@@TheMindReminder Stop barking.. Post sura, :-81;19.. So let us laught together.

[@adrine5193]

AHMED EX MOSLEM ON KZbin WATCH ☪ ISLAM NO ONE SINGLE MOSLEMS ANSWER ABOUT ISLAM ZERO COMEDY RELIGION SHOW ON KZbin WATCH ISLAM ☪

[@JesusisaMuslim]

Tell that clown to come on EFDAWAH

[@TheMindReminder]

AHMED IS A FAKE EX MOSLEM. correct spelling is MUSLIM

[@Kamisama77]

@@JesusisaMuslim Why don't you tell dawah clowns to come and refute Ahmed-exmuslim?

[@jenamaza3834]

@@JesusisaMuslim Ahmad would shishkebab them

[@andreeghossein4758]

Excellent AHMED EX MOSLEM

[@user-ys7eq8be7o]

I hear you, one must move away from obstacles that hinder life and move to dwell where it is well. Know thyself , living in wellness, whole, is worthy example, responsible. Be still. Not necessary to tell, prove or seek validation. Other knowers in the Spirit of truth Will be made Known. It happens in home life, domestic science and HOME economics, tending the food garden, walking in the forest, by the sea, feeling the sea sand anddslty sea, quenching thirst, stilling hunger, resting, just looking and seeing with out labelling,or naming people. 💖🕊️

[@mhizummy2091]

Lol l really so happy my families left Islam ☪️ all my families and we’re so happy and we have a peaceful life ❤

[@MIZANAWI]

Everything passes through the sieve. Just like that... Allah rejects in such a manner.

[@gloryj8712]

WITHOUT LIES,ISLAM DIES ☪️

[@AuthorFaizKing]

Sounds like a third-grade level jingle! How long did it take you to come up with that one?

[@amiir.1243]

Interesting, enjoy it.

[@idontcarei]

ASK HER IF SITTING WITH A NON-MEHRAM AND TALKING IS ALLOWED IN ISLAM ?? #HYPOCRITE

[@chivalrynvalour]

That lady's grandmother had wisdom. She should try living in islamic countries to learn islam better. All these "converts" live in the comforts of western countries

[@katiaarmy4336]

There is no intellectual reason for leaving Islam it's emotional Alhamdou li Allah for Islam.

[@matheussalim5652]

😂

[@argan1509]

To this woman who converts, if she didn't learn Islam from a Muslim, where did she learn Islam from then? Her explanation was not clear. I haven't got it yet

[@nejlababali7901]

Why do Christian’s leave Christianity and revert to Islam should be the Question

[@ImtiazShams]

Same reason why three comments on this video are of Muslims who have left and become Christians. People are fluid. I don’t at all believe in Christianity but cmon. 😅

[@gokufan1971]

Alhamdulillah. Proud to be a muslim.

[@anaid918]

Nothing to be proud about.

[@gokufan1971]

@@anaid918 why? Jealous?

[@damnthezionists1708]

Who will leave Islam except for weak people who are worshiped only in their deseires and instincts? As for the true believers, they will not leave the path of truth. ☝ لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله ♥ There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ❤

[@ImtiazShams]

This is exactly what the Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, Evangelical Christians, some more orthodox Jewish sects, etc etc say. “If you leave you’re just not a real believer nyah nyah” is a really bad and slightly culty approach to belief.

[@damnthezionists1708]

@@ImtiazShams Jhova is a monkey god and he is a false god and does not exist Except in your imagination, and he is a weak God, and this is not befitting of a great God Only Islam is the perfect concept of the mighty god ALLAH is the one Lord of the worlds has no partner ☝

[@impartial5912]

Mashallah, Great lady with huge knowledge and a big example for many Muslims

[@kkk-xx]

Hi imtiaz, i have a question. Is it true that Ayesha breast fed men after mahammad Ask her. Can Every muslim girl breast fed unkonown men

[@Rico-Suave_]

Watched all of it 1:12:19

[@DeconvertedMan]

Feminist Islam, working together to make the world a worse place for us all.

[@ProgressiveFeministIslam]

If by "us all" you mean the men that profit on personal, financial, emotional and sexual level, from oppressing women, then Yes!! You are absolutely right. We work together to make the world an impossible for your existence place!

[@raniamahdi8241]

@@ProgressiveFeministIslam With all due respect, you can't be a Muslim believing women worth half of a men then say you're a feminist who believes in equality between genders. I was like this once but found the amount of reinterpretation of Quran and hadith required to do that is just too much and the simple truth is Islam is a patriarchal sexist and misogynist religion and Mohamed was just another man using religion no different than Joseph Smith

[@ImtiazShams]

I dunno how it’s a bad thing - I’d much rather an Islam that engages with rather than oppresses half the population. We all have family that would benefit from that…

[@ProgressiveFeministIslam]

@@raniamahdi8241 and yet, I am!

[@DeconvertedMan]

@@ImtiazShams feminisem is an idelogy that has damaged many men as well as wacky unfounded views. Plenty of feminists are happy with Islam as is. I tend to stay away from all ideologys whenever possible. Feminisem is one more of them.

[@One1path]

For surely it is not the eyes that are blind but the hearts .

[@krenomichael1812]

The lady is Quran only, but has uniformed understanding of the Quran: issues of hijab and apostasy not in the Quran? Wow? Not a single quote or reference from the Quran!

[@phobictoeverything]

She created her own religion

[@mihaicraciun8678]

I think it's nice that there's people like this lady willing to reform the religion. But just like Christianity, the books contain verses which are very hard to misinterpret and are awful, and it's hard to argue with because you can't, it's the word of God

[@zyou8er]

KZbin SAM SHAMOUNIAN & CHRISTIAN PRINCE.

[@q8icyclist450]

ممتاز يا امتياز

[@vasilejuca9419]

I'm reading the Koran I listen to the bags Islam itself in human religion. No human being is the little brain all day live this can be any think Divine if Divinity exist in Koran or islamism

[@user-ys7eq8be7o]

The human beings relationship to wellness, wholeness is through vegetation 🍃🌦️🏝️🏔️, a breath away, dwell and live as I am breathing. The way, truth,life, Impartial (head, trunk and limbs, mission journey. (Spirit is life, mind the creative builder and the well body is the result.) Not through any language, speech or book

[@dollahmusa6705]

Conrgratulation ...welcome to christ.

[@MohamedShou]

Why doesn’t this ex Muslim actually speak with a traditionalist Muslim who know what they are talking about 🤦🏾‍♂️. He reminds me of Tommy Robinson of finding random Muslims girls and debating and speaking to them and thinking they have won 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Magdalene_yanbe]

You mean like the coward Dr Zakir who goes around debating with confused young students but never accepts a challenge by matured Christians who knows a lot about the Bible and the Qur'an. And Muslims people look up to this arrogant coward so much

[@Sweeti924]

Be respectful to this woman

[@nusyirwanhamzah]

Why always the smart one revert to Islam? Because Islam down to earth.

[@Sweeti924]

Islam is for gullible people

[@user-yy3vd9vx7y]

QURANAWAY🏃‍♀️🏃‍♂️from it☪️

[@mohamedzahurullah2441]

Unfortunately both the speakers, leave alone the exmuslim, even the converted muslim sister needs to learn more about Islam and Quran in particular. The three stories they mentioned are in Chapter 18 Surath-ul- kaaf. It is not Abraham, it is Musa (pbuh) who encountered the stranger who asked him not to question and preserve patience. Please do ask details to learned Islamic scholars like Mufi Menk, Dr. Zakir Naik and many others.

[@hhv964]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Zakir Naik?🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Jami7972]

Zakir naik 😂😂😂 world renowned clown.

[@argan1509]

zakir naik??? Oh No no

[@raphaelfeneje486]

I'm glad Muslims eyes are slowly opening to the falsehood of Islam. Don't add emotions to it. Give it a critical thought. Examine the Qu'ran with all sincerity! That Ex Christian didn't know what she's into. She's never read the Qu'ran

[@Bunyourdesires]

She’s never read the Quran yet covering herself?

[@raphaelfeneje486]

@@Bunyourdesires So observing rites in Islam means you know everything?? You're funny. So wearing Hijab automatically means you know about islam.. hahaha

[@Bunyourdesires]

@@raphaelfeneje486 for a revert yes….lol

[@YouYou-sm8tf]

@@Bunyourdesires Send them to debate Christian Prince if they know their religion

[@apostateabdool5972]

If you want to learn more about Islam listen to Christian prince on KZbin