Why Do People Go Hungry?

[@TheGravelInstitute]

Thank you for watching! This is the fourth in our new series of “short-takes”: brief, fluid, to-the-point videos on key ideas. Our hope is that eventually, these videos will be our main output on platforms like TikTok, KZbin Shorts, and Instagram Reels. Please let us know what you think, and if you want to see more from us, consider making this project possible by supporting us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/gravelinstitute. We will be forever in your debt.

[@thebestben]

KZbin won’t consider videos “shorts” unless they’re under 60 seconds and in 9:16 format

[@seamon9732]

It's the hidden death toll of capitalism's supply and demand mechanism. No money demand, no food despite overabundance. It's what scientist Johan Galtung named "Structural Violence", and it kills ~20 millions every year ( if you account for everything, not just food ). 100 millions dead in 100 years in a scarcity context? Capitalism: "Pffft, amateur, hold my beer, I can kill them in 5 in an overabundance context".

[@darcybhaiwala7057]

Please don't underestimate Facebook - but for your longer-form videos with citations. Absolutely need to break the right-wing hellhole on that platform but that's an audience that needs fully fledged arguments and comprehensive citations for yall to be effective

[@atashikokoni]

Please don't make these things your main output.

[@arunavaghatak8614]

This channel should be deleted. Do you at all know the difference between a positive right and a negative right ? Nobody intrinsically has the right to the fruits of someone else's labour , including the people who grow food for you. If they don't want to share products of their labour with you, then it IS your problem. Grow your own food or remain hungry, but don't steal.

[@juresichj]

It is amazing that this is what we have allowed our world to become. As a person who has gone dumpster diving to get food to feed her children, I really empathize with people who go hungry.

[@TheColdSoulz]

No one allowed anything. It was forced on everyone by trickery and language manipulation.

[@juresichj]

@@TheColdSoulz We still played a part. We bought the BS they were selling. We kept electing people who were not representing us. We didn't rise up against them, as the temperature of their rhetoric got hotter and hotter.

[@juresichj]

@@SR-kd4wi Which is why they are now trying to keep us from voting, because we started electing progressives who are fighting for change.

[@arunavaghatak8614]

Why did you decide to have children if you knew that you'll have a hard time feeding them ?

[@juresichj]

@@arunavaghatak8614 I didn't know that. Why do people ask this stupid question? Try this one: Why do people have children, since they must know that war, pestilence and hunger are possible during their lifetimes? Maybe because offspring are a known consequence of having sex, and all animals are programmed to seek out sex, and perpetuate their species? Sometimes I think that people who ask this question are people that nobody has ever wanted to have sex with. It is one of the dumbest questions that is ever asked.

[@talongodin2253]

I used to work in a grocery store. The amount of perfectly good food and other products that we dumped every day was absolutely appalling.

[@knowledge-girl]

And places like Walmart have trash compactors around their dumpsters so people can't even Dumpster dive to get anything that can be salvaged.

[@darkdaxterversionz]

Never work at a food processing plant. That shit is next level.

[@SatanasExMachina]

@@darkdaxterversionz Read Upton Sinclairs "The Jungle".

[@darkdaxterversionz]

@@SatanasExMachina My point was I've worked at both for many years. At my last major job, the amount of food we threw away every month even from just a financial perspective was absolutely OBSCENE. My coworker and I did our best to donate, salvage, and compost what we could but still. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of food and ingredients down the drain every year. Once we had 300k lost product in a month. That's not even counting rejected shipments due to non-payment or messing up protocol. Eventually you get used to it, but it made me physically ill at first to witness. And you might wonder how numbers get that high. Well a lot of our ingredients ranged from 300-10k per bag/drum/each. Of course the most expensive stuff was used slowly over time, but still. You see an inventory discrepancy in that and your heart drops.

[@SatanasExMachina]

@@darkdaxterversionz I'm aware of what your point was, and I agree it's a crime against humanity. My point was that, as someone that worked at a food processing plant, you might find Upton Sinclairs novel "The Jungle" interesting as it is a historic look into the the evils and inhumane practices of the food processing industry. It's the reason the FDA was initially instituted. It's a good read.

[@Mars-et8vc]

Don’t forget nestle drains up peoples water supply then sells it back to them as bottled water. And not to mention their slaves

[@Zejayt]

Its simple, stop buying bottled water, haven't bought a single bottle in years, always filtered tap, blame people for buying that waste by the caseload, and governments for not providing access to clean drinking water

[@quecksilber4976]

@@Zejayt You just proved your own complete lack of knowledge on that topic. What the person you replied to was talking of (and anyone with knowledge on the topic would've understood) is Nestle buying up water rights for natural water springs in Africa that constitute the only source of drinking water for the local communities, blocking locals from accessing that water and then re-selling them their own water in bottles. So the locals have the choice to either pay for totally overpriced water from nestle that they previously had access to for free or walk 10 miles every day to some polluted and dirty pond to get their water.

[@HACSSuperbMiner]

@@Zejayt “PeRsOnAl ReSpOnSiBiLiTy” Stop defending corporations and their shit.

[@Zejayt]

@@quecksilber4976 I only addressed the first point, but yes in the states they do the same thing buying up water access. Africa has a problem with corrupt governments taking bribes , nothing new on that front. Part of the problem is that the government takes priority of getting paid over infrastructure spending for their people. I would put the blame on government for not spending on infrastructure before selling water access, they put the cart before the horse and only the government officials benefit.

[@SlimeLord437]

@@Zejayt IRT "Stop buying bottled water", I'm glad your water is fine, but there are places in america where tap water isnt potable, even when filtered. Everyone in my neighborhood has non-potable water, because we're all made to use well water that comes from the same part of the water table, despite us not living too far from town, because connecting us to the town's water system isn't in the tax budget. There are people *in* towns whose water isn't safe to drink, too. Flint wasn't that long ago. I agree about governments needing to provide clean drinking water, but blaming individual consumers for the failures of the system is rather unhelpful and ignores serious problems that may be forcing them to engage with the system in a way you view as "wasteful".

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

“There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success … in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.” John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[@TheGravelInstitute]

One of the greatest novels of all time, and one of its most essential passages. At some point we'd love to do a series on classics of leftist and progressive literature.

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

@@TheGravelInstitute Oh, you must do this. And maybe one on the singers as well, like Woodie Guthrie, Phil Ochs and Pete Seeger.

[@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930]

@@Spiral.Dynamics for real, a Gravel Institute bio on Phil Ochs would be legendary! He’s definitely my favorite folk singer of all time.

[@cl5619]

Interesting story Grapes of Wrath movie was shown by the Soviets to their citizens as propaganda depicting America as poverty stricken. This backfired and movie was quickly pulled because it shown a lot of Americans driving cars, something unimaginable for Soviet citizens. Let’s just say one country blew the doors off the other in terms of delivering prosperity. Socialism is Dogshit!

[@SatanasExMachina]

@@cl5619 Interesting story... The Soviet Union was Communist, not Socialist. And it wasn't even truly that after Stalin gained power...it was Stalinist. Power corrupts, and the end is usually ugly. We're gonna be seeing it soon enough because, as history has shown, all empires fall... only this time we've primed to take the entire world with us when we do. Here's to hoping something gives before then.

[@AnnaCurser]

in France, markets are obligated by law to donate everything they'd throw out and don't sell.

[@guyincognito9410]

“But muh freedoms”

[@swordmeow3041]

And yet hundreds of thousands of French are still food insecure.

[@Helaw0lf]

Do they have a circular economy?

[@Huy-G-Le]

Now that is how you do it.

[@MalcolmCooks]

now extend this all the way back through the food supply chain.

[@monotoneyay9108]

I never knew that many people died of hunger - it feels so weird knowing this

[@reuternopalzin2422]

It is not exactly that all that people died of literally hunger, but the consequences of it. Not saying this to minimize the problem of course, hunger is still the cause of all those deaths.

[@cl5619]

It’s always been this way, and always will. Human populations expand to meet the carrying capacity of their local environment. This occurs mostly in the third world. Most of the hunger is there. If they get more regular food access, their populations expand to push up against those limits to growth. This is happening in Africa and South Asia the most. Capitalism is to blame, but not because it provides too little food. It’s because it provides too much, allowing population growth.

[@abe8435]

@@cl5619this is generally true for many species. Not just food, but land and water are determinants of population. But humans are K-selected species and are more complex than your explanation suggests. If your claim that “human populations expand to meet the carrying capacity of their local environment” were true, than populations would be expanding the most precisely in the places where it is actually holding steady or falling, and declining in many places where it is in fact increasing.

[@Elkator955]

@@cl5619 There has been a mouse utopia experiment that disproves this notion. Having just enough food will incentivize the increase of population, but having all the food and comforts often leads to population stagnation or even decline, both in animals and in the western world. Poor and middle class people tend to have more children than rich people, with a few exceptions.

[@cl5619]

@@abe8435 People in third world are r selected. Which is why they remain poor. Nigeria’s population has exploded of mainly the poorest among them . If they had half the population, that country wouldn’t be as poor. They’d probably would be on par with Mexico in terms of their economic conditions. It turns out, we all can’t be first world like Japanese or Europeans. Poverty is going to remain and they are going to keep having babies, compounding the poverty.

[@OrniKArnaud]

Nothing radicalizes some folks like working in food retail and seeing how much gets thrown away. An eye-opening experience.

[@cl5619]

A lot of that has to do with Health Department regulations. If you were to go to butcher and get $900 of meat and you left it at cash register because you forgot your wallet, the store would have to throw all that away because of the government rules.

[@afgor1088]

@@cl5619 no it doesn't. This is a myth. there is no law that says Walmart couldn't donate all their leftover food, they choose not to for the same reason Amazon destroys macbooks, to create artificial scarcity and push up the price

[@trapfethen]

@@cl5619 There are quite literally laws in place that actually release an entity from liability when they donate food in good faith. They wouldn't have any issues. It isn't done because there is no money in it. Hell, organizations have offered to pick the food up for free, Walmart still decided it wasn't worth it.

[@SatanasExMachina]

@@trapfethen if you give the food to people so they can eat, then they won't be hungry enough to buy your other food. Capitalism in a nutshell.

[@albertcovington9942]

@KLJF that is 100% not true. Top places waste nothing. Capatalism encourages thrift and reuse. Restaurants that do as you claim are the ones that go out of business.

[@LogicGated]

It's always funny when people make the starvation under socialism meme but are blind to the starvation rampant today under capitalism.

[@forestboi9760]

even funnier when you look at the stats and realize that many socialist countries doubled or nearly tripled the average calory/nutrition intake for its citizens in the long run by industrializing agriculture under planned economies.

[@RickKasten]

And yet funnier when you look at the examples under socialism and see that they are cherry-picked to be the worst possible examples from past history while ignoring the better examples of socialist and social-democratic countries RIGHT NOW

[@atheneus]

@@RickKasten Like China.

[@mateocortes4148]

@@atheneus please not china, they are complicit in uyghur muslim persecution and slavery.

[@52flyingbicycles]

Everyone knows Africa is capitalist and everyone knows Africa has tons of hungry people but very few people put 2 and 2 together. Heck, the same thing applies to the US! When a socialist country has a problem, we blame socialism. When a capitalist country has a problem, we either say the problem is a force of nature, will solve itself (against all logic), is fake news, or is just people being lazy.

[@bigsalmon7973]

"if a man steals bread because he can't afford it, he shouldn't be imprisoned, the govt should" (sadly I don't remember who said this, but this statement has stuck with me)

[@JoseRodriguez-pn8yj]

Hey, not a bad idea. Why wouldn’t a man be able to afford FOOD, literally something you need on a daily basis. Why no jobs? Why shitty low paying jobs? Why?

[@commie563]

It is from 2nd Kalipha Umar in Islamic Era, the actual quote is "“If a man steal bread for their hunger, instead of cutting the hands of thieves should be cut with hand of the king.”"

[@bigsalmon7973]

@@commie563 thank you for clarifying, the original quote has more of an impact imo

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

A loaf of bread in America costs about $1.25. That's what our most poorly paid laborer makes in ten minutes.

[@JoseRodriguez-pn8yj]

@@Dennis-nc3vw We’re not diving down to that level. This ain’t a poverty cult. Don’t defend something that doesn’t help you.

[@teamakesgames]

"something we literally need to exist" Ah yes, make housing and healthcare free too. Uhm.. unironically. Please do

[@fernadogonzalez2940]

They will never make it free the only option is to kill them all

[@teamakesgames]

@@fernadogonzalez2940 😓 Murder is bad, actually.

[@fernadogonzalez2940]

@@teamakesgames yeah but do you want to keep in place the system that make millions suffer the life of few for the life of many

[@ProleDaddy]

The bourgeoisie will never surrender their power and control via political reform. Of course political reform of any significance will never come, because the bourgeoisie pull the governmental puppet strings.

[@ProleDaddy]

Eat the Rich

[@Zeusselll]

"Say whay you will about capitalism, at least it's efficient!" Capitalism:

[@fernadogonzalez2940]

At slowly destroying humanitys chance at survival as a species

[@carson2913]

@@fernadogonzalez2940 bc its commodities controlled by some corporation 🥺🥺

[@cl5619]

The two worst famines in all human history were directly caused by Socialism. You people have zero credibility.

[@carson2913]

@@cl5619 we're talking about a different kind on socialism. not that kind of socialism.

[@cl5619]

@@carson2913 Oh yes.. That old socialism had bad-bad leaders… Our new socialism will have good leaders…. See the difference?

[@MYG]

I don't know how you can guard food to make sure it's thrown away instead of eaten by the homeless and starving and claim that to be the best system for feeding humanity.

[@xeoncreator2322]

you should take the amount of food u need,its both economical and provides food for others too blaming capitalism for societal degeneracy is next level delusion

[@joshuahunt8911]

It’s impossible to escape these companies. They own pretty much all the smaller food companies as their subsidiaries. Buy local!

[@vincent686]

thats why we need anti-monopoly laws, and to break a lot of these corporations down and make them more of public utilities than businesses

[@cl5619]

@@vincent686 Yet you Commies seek a government monopoly over the entire of society with your communist socialism

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@@vincent686 We already have anti-monopoly laws. It's leftist laws like minimum wage that make it difficult for small businesses to rise up and compete.

[@danielwareking]

A lot of things crystalized for me when I realized that basic nutrition, housing, sanitation, and healthcare are human rights. Like, not in a philosophical, idealistic kind of way. No, in a literal, "THIS IS IN ARTICLE 25 OF THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS," kind of way. Look it up.

[@arunavaghatak8614]

No. You don't have the right to the fruits of someone else' labour, whether it be the farmer who grows your food, the construction workers who build your house or the doctor who treats your diseases. If they want to charge you for the fruits of their labour, you have to pay.

[@danielwareking]

@@arunavaghatak8614 Of course it all needs to be paid for somehow, that’s what taxes are for. Kind of like how you “pay” to drive on roads or to have a fire department. Anyway my point still stands: the universal declaration of human rights explicitly states that all people have a right to an adequate standard of living, which includes food, shelter, sanitation, and healthcare. That’s literally just a fact. At any rate I would be just fascinated to know your thoughts on why a boss or a landlord has a right to the fruits of someone else’s labor.

[@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts]

@@arunavaghatak8614 Nice work upvoting your own comment.

[@arunavaghatak8614]

@@danielwareking Because the employee agreed to give the boss a portion of the fruits of his labour the moment he decided to work under him. It is contractual and the employee is free to leave at any moment (maybe, to start his own business). No coercion is involved, unlike taxes.

[@danielwareking]

@@arunavaghatak8614 "You must sell your labor or you will die on the streets of exposure and starvation" sounds a bit like a coercive system to me... And do not fall back on the ol' "Just start your own business" line, unless you actually think that every human being on earth can be a business owner.

[@elilane2268]

I'm feeding the algorithm

[@forestboi9760]

here algorithm, want a bite?

[@thunderpooch]

Sadly, KZbin won't allow this to trend. Hint: they're capitalists who worship Wall St and the offshoring of manufacturing jobs

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Conservatives donate more money, volunteer more time, give more blood, and adopt more children than liberals. The socialist motto should be "Feed the algorithm, not your fellow man."

[@ЯрославКовальчук-и9ь]

Because it doesn't matter how much we produce - just how we distribute

[@SamuraiKage-iv3ow]

True and that's the point of the video. It's not a logistics issue but political corruption, lack of accountability, and uniformed/ill-informed/indifferent society.

[@basedlibertarianz910]

say that to soviet russia

[@PurpleDuneEfa]

The world's farmers produce enough food to feed 1.5x the global population. That's enough to feed 10 billion people. We can literally have everyone fed. BuT tHAt CoSTs mONeY.

[@glitchhhhhhhh]

@@basedlibertarianz910 soviet russia doesn't exist for more than 30 years now, are u okay?

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

You can't distribute what isn't produced.

[@ionicdog5860]

To feed the algorithm

[@carlogaytan7010]

I dont think people will like it if every source of engagement is for the algorithm. People will see it as disingenuous

[@thunderpooch]

KZbin won't allow this to trend Wake up They worship the stock market and outsourcing of jobs Google won't allow messages that disrupt their profits to become too popular

[@herohero-fw1vc]

YT will ignore it.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Conservatives donate more money, volunteer more time, donate more blood, and adopt more children than liberals. And Americans are statistically more charitable than Europeans. The socialism motto should be "Feed the algorithim, not your fellow man."

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@internet person Two sources are the book "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" and The World Giving Index. What I said is supported by mountains of research so I'm sure you can find more.

[@JohnCollinsIsAWizard]

"A century ago, scarcity had to be endured; today, it must be enforced"

[@raybellows9851]

Remember that the military budget in the US was just increased by 20 billion dollars. Enough money to end homelessness in the US.

[@007kingifrit]

you can never end homelessness. since 1970 the amount we spend on homelessness has gone up by billions. the % of people in homelessness has not gone up or down its not a money problem

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Yes, I'm sure we're that close to ending a problem that has been with humanity since the dawn of time. Just 20 billion dollars, right?

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@@007kingifrit It's called The Peltzmann Effect, the more safety nets you give people, the more wreckless they become.

[@007kingifrit]

@@Dennis-nc3vw the peltzman effect is a good reference to have thanks

[@xeoncreator2322]

thats why taxes are not good,states have 0 incentives to use your money for your people

[@Hereticked]

Ah yes, the famed "efficiency" of capitalism.

[@cl5619]

The two worst famines in all human history were directly caused by Socialism. Yet Capitalism enabled and caused innovation in the food industry that has enabled a planet to have 7 billion.

[@007kingifrit]

the stats in this video are fake "food insecurity" just means you don't know where your next meal is coming from. it does not mean you are hungry

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

"Throughout the Soviet era, various and seemingly persistent problems had emerged to plague the country’s food system. Government experts estimated that the elimination of waste and spoilage in the production, storage, and distribution of food could have increased the availability of grain by 25 percent, of fruits and vegetables by 40 percent, and of meat products by 15 percent (Library of Congress 1991). Moreover, as Gray (Gray 1990, 94) estimated, 'only 60 percent of the protein in Soviet milk [was] consumed by humans, and the milk that [was] fed to animals or simply wasted [had] more protein than half the meat Soviet citizens [consumed].'"

[@biggamer7876]

*ahem* Holodomor *ahem* Great leap forward

[@christophercelmer405]

This format is a lot better. I enjoy the longer segments but this is more in line with Prager U style. Get those people with shorter attention spans too.

[@Mchages]

unapologetically anti-capitalist.. i love it. this is how we win

[@c.i.a9248]

this is how you destroy the world. 90% of starving people are in socialist states.

[@SirKemzyGodle]

@C.I.A. The fact you commented this by the name C.I.A. is fucking rich

[@Mchages]

@@c.i.a9248 source?

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Gravel Institute: Capitalism sucks! Replace it with socialism! Of course we can't tell you what we mean by socialism because every time socialism is shown to fail we say "That's not real socialism."

[@SirKemzyGodle]

@@Dennis-nc3vw Because it hasn’t, as it’s never actually been properly executed. Any real socialist with a fucking brain cell knows Soviet, Chinese, or any other form of “socialism” are just shitty authoritarian dictatorships.

[@ernststravoblofeld]

If it's at all possible for you, grow your own food. Even just a little of it. It's damn near free. A few seeds in a window box. A grow light over a bucket in the corner of your apartment. Anything.

[@ernststravoblofeld]

@@robertwinslade3104 There's so many reasons to do it, and the possible end of modern civilization is only one. You will never have fresher herbs than the ones you reach out your kitchen window to pick. You can grow things your store won't carry, in varieties that taste better but don't travel well in trucks. You get a cheap source of food when you are between jobs. And you know exactly where it came from.

[@brentt6714]

The ad at the start of Video was longer than the video itself and tried to explain how "corporations not paying taxes is good, actually" 😂

[@finnuniverse5414]

The amount of perfectly good food that goes in the dumpster at grocery stores is mind blowing.

[@xeoncreator2322]

did you ask them why were they throwing away food? Because food becomes stale bro and stores would sell food that gonna be stale in like a month at low price,it is better to sell that food for a loss than to waste the food and earn nothing

[@vtechvsmile]

i love being part of the only species that pays to live on earth

[@theend-nz6vs]

Wanna know something funny the fact other animals live better than most of us just come to show we did not progress that well as a species

[@平和-v1z]

The fact that we have more than enough food for everyone and still need to see people dying because of hunger is heartbreaking...

[@JoeHuman]

I quit my highest paying job in a produce warehouse because a very regular part of the job was throwing away hundreds of perfectly eatable watermelons when "The Taster" didn't "like" the flavour of ONE watermelon in ONE box from ONE tie on ONE palette of a 6 palette delivery. All 6 pallets.. trashed. Except for whatever I was able to sneak into my car when no one was looking. The waste is nearly unimaginable until you ask the question, "Does Capitalism thrive on Bigotry or does Bigotry thrive within Capitalism?".

[@forestboi9760]

"Does Capitalism thrive on Bigotry or does Bigotry thrive within Capitalism?" both probably...

[@melelconquistador]

If I was the taster I would ask to taste another melon of the same box. If that's something I can get away with doing for the farmer.

[@peolt]

I would say bigotry thrives in capitalism because bigotry is inefficient and unprofitable but the bigots with the means to spread a hateful message will do so in order to remove class consciousness and solidarity

[@CommieApe]

The poor should just stop being poor it's soooooo easy. Not sure why they're so lazy after working forty plus hours and still not making ends meet.

[@dossiebigham9113]

I hope this is sarcasm.

[@dossiebigham9113]

@Crazy Rabid Squid okay thanks given how stupid people are I just wanted to be sure.

[@CommieApe]

@@dossiebigham9113 hahahaha I'm glad it was ambiguous enough.

[@dossiebigham9113]

@@CommieApe yeah well I really don't want anymore reasons to hate people in general than I already do. I'd rather not but people make it so hard.

[@NextChapterRapper]

I wonder when we’ll commoditize oxygen.

[@stuff-qn9cr]

When we destroy earth we probaly will lol

[@NextChapterRapper]

@@stuff-qn9cr right. When you think about it, diving equipment already is commoditized oxygen. Might wanna invest in that if you wanna make some bank in Dystopia.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

When we start setting up colonies in space and someone has to transport that oxygen. Food and water is as free as it ever was. You can go into the woods and hunt for your food or take a swig from the lake whenever you want. What you're paying for is things like the cost of purification and transportation.

[@NextChapterRapper]

@@Dennis-nc3vw Nah, transportation is cheap as hell. It’s mostly Marketing we’re paying for. And even then there is more than enough being produced to feed everyone. But with an economy based on scarcity-driven inflation, we rather incinerate the surpluses than give them away for free. It’s cancerous capitalism. It’s been eating away at our vital organs for ages now.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@@NextChapterRapper Eating away at your vital organs? That's funny considering the human population is about 50X bigger than it was two millenia ago, yet humans are fatter and taller than ever before. If we lived under socialism, there would be no surplus to incinerate. Capitalism motivates productivity, socialism does not.

[@mayab4575]

Loving this surreal cel-shaded style! Seconding the comment about changing the aspect ratio, in part because I want you all to expand to TikTok (if you haven't already) where they would love this!

[@justinmoreno3139]

They're on Tiktok. Their latest post on there got banned for "hate speech" even though the video was about right wing cancel culture.

[@uhohhotdog]

@@justinmoreno3139 hate speech against who??

[@moestietabarnak]

you know that a phone can be turn sideway ?

[@natethebluesman]

"The most affluent and the most miserable of the human race are to be found in the countries that are called civilized" -Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice, page 9, paragraph 4

[@thecybersaurusrex2591]

once again, almost everyone in food retail is aware of this. some people are just so unaware of any flaws in a system so long as they are surviving/thriving in it.

[@carlosw1687]

Capitalism is all about Capital. It is not about people.

[@Meridian83West]

Makes me think of the quote from Dom Helder Camara: "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist."

[@007kingifrit]

but all the communist countries have starvation. not just food insecurity. furthermore global poverty rates are at their lowest point in history....right now the video also lies a bit. it ignores the fact that shipping those excess food products to another continent before they rot is impossible. in real terms we don't have enough food for everyone as it isn't grown locally

[@Meridian83West]

@@007kingifrit I think you missed the point of the quote. The archbishop was not advocating communism; he was wondering why - at least when he made that statement in 1952 - that the question of why so much hunger exists must become a question of one’s political beliefs. As for your assertion that “in real terms we don't have enough food for everyone as it isn't grown locally”, I don’t doubt that the perishability of food makes it impossible to eliminate hunger, but we certainly could do more to reduce it. Approximately 1.3 _billion_ tons of food worldwide - that’s about 2.6 _trillion_ dollars’ worth in American money - gets lost or wasted each year, and that’s not all due to perishability. Certainly how much capitalism may be to blame for this is debatable, but: - Food gets lost in production. - In supermarkets food is discarded strictly for cosmetic reasons. - In prosperous households people buy more food than they can consume in a given period, so the rest goes bad, and they throw it out. - Restaurants routinely overbuy to give their customers dishes with the freshest ingredients, so what they don’t sell goes in the dumpster. - The majority of landfill waste is made up of rotting food, which emits methane gas, which is harmful to the environment. So maybe we can’t feed everyone, but I believe we could feed a lot more than we’re feeding now.

[@davidstrelec2000]

@@007kingifrit Communist china and vietnam account for 75% of the global poverty eradication Russia and China the two largest countries in the world experienced famines every single year for centuries and after implementing communism they may have experienced 4 major famines in the early stage China didn't have a famine since 1960 Neither USSR after WWII The most recent famine in ruusua occurred in the 1990s because of neoliberal shock therapy collapse

[@davidstrelec2000]

@@007kingifrit The world produces food enough to feed over 10 billion people

[@007kingifrit]

@@davidstrelec2000 not really once you factor in incentives, logistics, and expiration dates

[@tareke586]

Food gets thrown out while people starve.

[@007kingifrit]

1. nobody is starving in america. food insecurity is a fake statistic that conflates not knowing where your next meal will come from with "starving" very misleading 2. food that gets thrown out would not reach other continents before expiring. so while it is technically thrown out while still edible it would not have helped feed anyone even if you donated it

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Especially by socialists like yourself. Studies show conservatives are more charitable than liberals, and Americans are more charitable than Europeans.

[@hellstromcarbunkle8857]

It's called "maximum value formula" and everything from shoes to hairclips are calculated and priced the same way. Charge every penny you can until you lose market...in the case of food, until JUST ENOUGH people die to maximize profit

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Just nationalize the means of food production. That worked so well for Zimbabwe!

[@jdoe4548]

for the USSR, China, Cambodia. the list goes on and on

[@Friedfish-zm7fx]

Hunger is the main product of Socialism: ask Venezuela, ask North Korea, ask Cuba. Go back to the former USSR and check hunger there. I am from a 3rd world country where poor people are skinny. I am fascinated that in capitalist countries like USA and Netherlands, poor people are fat. It is better to be poor in a capitalist country than in a socialist country. It is better to be hungry in a capitalist country than in a socialist country. Do you prefer to be hungry in China than in the USA? There is waste in all enterprises. Relevant question: what is the waste as percentage of total production? The video does not address this question. Profits are good for they indicate sustainability of the enterprise. No profit = imminent death of enterprise.

[@thischanneldoesnotexist.2975]

I love how you change the argument from "We don't need to be hungry" to "Where would you rather be hungry?" Cuba has just about everything provided by the state. I do not know what you are talking about.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@@thischanneldoesnotexist.2975 Oh my Christ, so apparently you know a magic spell that can just make hunger go away?

[@paradoxicalpotato8927]

And what bugs me is that the solution is right there and has been tested and tried multiple times. Even the CIA acknowledges that the USSR had more calorie intakes and was more sustainable without imports than the US.

[@hailmammonmoments7568]

That was an almost childishly simple analysis of the past few thousand years of agriculture and currency. The raw data is likely as accurate as it’s been for more than a century. The gut reaction to the injustice of it, however, doesn’t stop farmers, or most apes, from treating each other like rivals where food is concerned.

[@alexredfield1943]

When are we gonna count the victims of capitalism?

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

Not as large as socialism

[@maxm.6169]

@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 McCarthyism strikes again...

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

@@maxm.6169 mccarthyism is dead, now its sjw culture aka libtardism

[@juresichj]

@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 I have never heard of any deaths caused by socialism.

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

@@juresichj Soviet Russia, China, Vietnam, Venezuela, cuba, laos, Cambodia, Germany, north Korea. Should I go on?

[@tylerhackner9731]

Thank you for this video as always

[@rickrolld1367]

Yay! I too enjoy starving to death because greedy companies want money I can't get because I spent it all on water!

[@hayestaylor97]

Great video yet again y’all!

[@oohwow2787]

Engagement for the engagement gods, PLEASE tear it up folks you're doing great

[@KvaGram]

This video don't go far enough on how food ar thrown away. The garbage bins have locks, so the poor can't "steal" trashed food.

[@MyRapNameIsAlexbitsnpieces]

The graphics at the Gravel Institute have leveled up a lot since the beginning. Hopefully the help bring in more eyeballs and change people's behavior.

[@zynostik5873]

Cutesy graphics doesn't change the fact that this is blatant propaganda. Gravel Institute are known to be extreme far-left bias & heavily anti-capitalist. Nobody should have their behavior changed from watching this video. It's actually quite disgusting how one-sided the points in this video are. No nuance what-so-ever.

[@victorgabrielbuena]

Hopefully this channel gets bigger and get to spread its message to more people!

[@clairewest9409]

''america is the root of all evil, other countries are perfect'' There it is. Why need to make another video its basically the message in every video

[@dripster4424]

@@clairewest9409 america did do a lot of bad things. That’s undeniable

[@NewSocialistEraVideos]

Good stuff-

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

"Throughout the Soviet era, various and seemingly persistent problems had emerged to plague the country’s food system. Government experts estimated that the elimination of waste and spoilage in the production, storage, and distribution of food could have increased the availability of grain by 25 percent, of fruits and vegetables by 40 percent, and of meat products by 15 percent (Library of Congress 1991). Moreover, as Gray (Gray 1990, 94) estimated, 'only 60 percent of the protein in Soviet milk [was] consumed by humans, and the milk that [was] fed to animals or simply wasted [had] more protein than half the meat Soviet citizens [consumed].'"

[@ClutchTrick]

Please keep making these. I love using them to teach the false beliefs and distortions being used to push socialism on the naive.

[@MalleusRegum]

But communism no food! Vuvuzuela!

[@loki362]

@@robertwinslade3104 not 100 squilliums 😱

[@basedlibertarianz910]

venezuela's economy is based on oil, which is all state owned. Venezuela is now dogshit. Enjoy your socialism???

[@MalleusRegum]

@@basedlibertarianz910 Lol, Norway's economy is based on oil, most of which is also state owned. Is Norway dogshit? Or maybe state owning something has actually zero relevance to socialism or economy growth, haven't you thought about that?

[@basedlibertarianz910]

@@MalleusRegum Norway's economy is based on private sector debt. Norway has a 300% private debt to gdp ratio. Also, Norway has a soveriegn wealth fund that is the largest holding of stocks in the world, which is inflated by central banking and the fed.

[@MalleusRegum]

@@basedlibertarianz910 So, is that the recipe of economic growth - simply borrowing money from bankers and the fed? And socialism is bad because it doesn't get you any money from the fed?

[@kulturfreund6631]

It‘s outrageous indeed. What next pisses me off is when I see the food and intact clothes, kid toys etc. social welfare recipients keep throwing away themselves. ...and who don’t like to be lectured on how to improve behaviors.

[@vectorhacker-r2]

I find it funny, because the largest famines and hunger happened under socialist policy.

[@donxx1206]

25'000 people die of starvation everyday

[@duckey6806]

@@donxx1206 the issue is this caused due to government neglect but in countries like the Soviet Union it was state sponsored starvation

[@nessaj6359]

@@duckey6806 I don't think it's neglect. Lol. That's BS.

[@ncrtrooper1782]

You guys have some amazing animators.

[@channelremoved32]

i love this channel, but i really think we need more videos on what the actual solutions to these problems are!

[@duckduckgo5173]

Socialism.

[@thunderpooch]

Psychopaths and sociopaths can't be reasoned with Do with that what you will

[@luc6284]

Consider reading Lenin😁

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

They have none, that's why they don't tell the solutions.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@@duckduckgo5173 Everytime we point to socialism's failings in the real world you say "That's not real socialism" so that's a meaningless statement.

[@barriewright2857]

This i find disturbing and heartbreaking and all because of greed people are literally starving to death. And they know it's the necessitys of life it self.

[@007kingifrit]

the video is totally fake. food insecurity is a very misleading statistic as people who eat 4 meals a day might still be considered food insecure. its an intentionally misleading statistic

[@sharkythegw7843]

Commenting for the algorithm. Thanks for putting out these informative videos!

[@arcadiaberger9204]

If corporatists feel that this video depicts their way f life unfairly, there is a simple solution they could try: Feed people.

[@ButterMuttSquash]

You know #shorts doesn't work unless the video is phone resolution and under 60 seconds

[@SocialistStrike]

I don't know about depicting a *basically* minimum wage cashier at a grocery store as the Grim Reaper...

[@Eggsisreallychicken]

Euglossine x Gravel Institute, i had to do a double take

[@JohnBrown010]

Nestlé doesn’t think water is a human right. Something all of us require to live isnt something Nestlé thinks you should have access to. Shortage is the only way to profit, whether thats a real shortage or an artificial one

[@darrenbutler9819]

Short and truthful! Keep it up.

[@florida12341000]

I think you guys need to start providing reading sources in your details for every video so that what you say is undeniable no matter who wants to reject it

[@florida12341000]

@@ExPwner you got an example?

[@joegeneric7973]

@@ExPwner You misspelled PragerU.

[@alibertarian698]

What about USSR and China?? They had sufficient and nutritious food I believe.

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

China today? You're right, much of them have more Chins than their phonebooks.

[@c.i.a9248]

Dude the people in this comment section make me lose faith in humanity. The world will be wonderful without socialists.

[@alibertarian698]

@@c.i.a9248 true

[@ImDemonWolf]

Because of animal agriculture. Live vegan to prevent world hunger.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Who does veganism prevent world hunger? Animals eat a lot of grain but if there were no animals there would be no demand for that grain so it would never be there in the first place.

[@keeplearning4L]

beta “pragerU” vs chad “Gravel Institute”

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

capitalism [ kap-i-tl-iz-uhm ] noun an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth. Doctors Without Borders healing people for free is capitalism. Hugo Chavez dying a billionaire is socialism.

[@phantomblot6072]

It chills me how most people seem fine with this.

[@EASYANSWERS]

I'm literally getting buck wild anti-Communist ads on this video wtf youtube

[@007kingifrit]

install adblock, why help youtube make money?

[@EASYANSWERS]

@@007kingifrit literally typing that comment is making them money

[@007kingifrit]

@@EASYANSWERS imperfect solution fallacy

[@007kingifrit]

@@EASYANSWERS also....blatantly untrue. youtube cannot profit off me as i don't let them get ad revenue from me. i block all ads

[@EASYANSWERS]

@@007kingifrit all activity on KZbin including comments and views, regardless of ads served, informs their data collection and alters what videos get shown in the algorithm. so also, we could use this as an argument to say that both commenting here, and watching the ads, are also acts of helping Gravel Institute make money and gain visibility.

[@RealCatWeekly]

When the incentive is money, then the quality is bound to decrease

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Because people love buying low quality products, right?

[@benemerald]

“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" "KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits." "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you"

[@KyleAnimates]

The real genius in the comment section

[@shinkiro403]

Thank you for your contribution👍

[@sjbrooksy45]

The issue is more complex than "profit makes people starve". Profit also incentivizes farmers to produce the food to begin with.

[@rowbot5555]

"oh boy what a fine group of early humans, too bad they don't have capitalism and will all starve because they don't have the profit motive to tell them they need to make food"

[@justinmoreno3139]

Just like how dairy farmers at the start of the pandemic dumped perfectly good milk all because of demand in the market even tho there's literally people starving here

[@sarahj4884]

cheers, awsome viceo, LOKE YOUR STUFF

[@StephySon]

I know people fired for having the audacity to give wasted food to the hungry rather then throw it in the garbage

[@lordeverybody872]

Short and to the point

[@ninab8187]

why did i get an ad from the tax foundation for pro-billionaire propaganda when i clicked on this video…

[@thescopedogable]

Because the gravel institute does not own KZbin

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

@@thescopedogable leftards own youtube, gravel is left wing

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

@Crazy Rabid Squid right wing youtube channels have been hammered by youtube more than left wing channels

[@loki362]

@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 are you sure that it’s not the fact that the right wing channels are spreading false information

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

@@loki362 they're spreading their perspective on certain things, also gravel spreads false information, and channels like tyt, why haven't they been hammered?

[@rowbot5555]

Oh boy I can't wait for people to say "you don't deserve food, it isn't a human right" in the comments

[@prodabber0222]

Communism without the corruption is the ideal economic system

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

If you could magically remove corrupt from the human soul, we would need no political system whatsoever.

[@azael2078]

@@Dennis-nc3vw lol sure and corruption is based on greed which is based on our current system theres no greed or corruption gene, everyone starts out as a blank slate the conditions someone is raised in creates who they are

[@CCP-Lies]

No ideology is free from corruption.

[@TheAirGerman]

Thanks for this

[@alexparker4244]

It is Gravel Institute video day, my dudes

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

More cancer

[@Xondar11223344]

Hunger isn't a question of food production, it's a question of food distribution. We allow capitalist systems to distribute food globally, and those systems are designed to increase capital for the capitalist class, so food distribution isn't done in an efficient or equitable way, but in a profitable way.

[@aza_-nd3md]

"That's corporatism not capitalism" -some libertarian probably

[@cl5619]

No. Libertarian will point out that Socialism has no intrinsic advantage in terms of reducing food waste and it absolutely is worse for food security

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

I am a libertarian. There are far more intriguing ways to attack this video than a technicality.

[@cl5619]

@@thefrenchareharlequins2743 Commie logic 101: Everything we don’t like that coincides capitalism is 100% the fault of capitalism (wouldn’t happen under socialism) Everything we do like that coincides capitalism, has nothing to do with capitalism (socialism can produce that outcome too)

[@cl5619]

…. I should add that those are some GREAT LEAPS put FORWARD in that Commie logic

[@ElectricAlien577]

@@cl5619 Socialism absolutely has intrinsic advantage in terms of reducing food waste. First off, profit isnt a factor, so all the food waste that comes as a result of distribution and storage not being profitable enough is already eliminated.

[@davesmith2261]

Nice vid!

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

People need a livable wage, & More easily accessible Social Programs that gives food those that can't afford it.

[@ghostburgers4284]

That’s still going to encourage people to waste food. Your solution is like a tiny bandaid on a hemorrhaging wound.

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

@@ghostburgers4284 Well you can't stop someone from throwing food out the window Instead of Donating it. But I'll rather offer some kind of solution to people starving to death.

[@alexdibosco]

if you collect al the food in one place and direct all the food in the shops, just for that you lose a very big ammount of food.. also the way we process the food, the packaging and the way we eat or the way we keep the food going bad in the frige.. evry step make waste tons of food.. and also is in our society.. we don't share, we don't eat thogeter in comunity we eat alone in our home lockup.. if someone in your bilding or street don't have food that evening don't come at you "i need food" is a enormus shame ask for help\food in our society.. the food need to be a comunity benefict, evry town need to be able to grow food and use it, people need to ask for big outdoor table areas whit kooking equipment and community frige and a cupole of old volunters for check for be the kicken master's\helper and not empty park for make the dog shit.. in this way not only you don't waste food but also you bild strong community, and can solve many problem in one shot.. from lonlynes to bad food culture, and so on.. just one shot the problems can be solved whit a good thinking mode.. the governament don't want strong, smart, and culturefull pop.. and this is a big problem.. the food need to be aviable for evrybody if all have full stomac the waste don't metter.. the state need to pay for food if the people can't pay.. you don't give food you give money and they buy what they want eat.. the community share the food can save waste but is a busness.. if a supermarket give away the food at the end of the day why you need to buy it in the day? i my country the big supermarchet chain have trash bins whit lockers or they are close in metal chage.. is the system wrong and the way we think.. bye

[@ghostburgers4284]

@@user-em6ie2be7x you keep missing the point. Im glad we both mean well towards others though.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

There's no such goddamn thing as a livable wage. The price of everything comes back to the price of labor. Raise the cost of labor, you raise the cost of everything. AOC's $58 "tax the rich" shirt proves that.

[@lilwilly3315]

I love this channel like :D

[@ornos3133]

Gravel Institute is just spitting facts! ✊

[@zynostik5873]

More like propaganda.

[@ornos3133]

@@zynostik5873 aaaaannnnnnndddddd

[@zynostik5873]

@@ornos3133 Why should I have to explain the issue with propaganda.

[@ornos3133]

@@zynostik5873 well you’re under the assumption that somehow not everything is propaganda. So I rhetorically ask, what’s your point?

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Unsourced "facts"

[@ricky578]

I prefer long video formats so do both plz

[@CGaboL]

Eat the rich!

[@basedlibertarianz910]

Eat the unskilled people who are as clever as chimps.

[@CGaboL]

@@basedlibertarianz910 That is still eating the rich, just with more syllables. Though to be fair, chimps can be more clever than rich people.

[@c.i.a9248]

lol you are a failure who can't make money so he wants to steal from others what a failure hahahahaha

[@CGaboL]

@@c.i.a9248 you literally just described every single billionaire. I have made money, at the expense of my own work and abilities, not anybody elses. You can't say that about any billionaire. Have you ever seen Bezos working a shift in one of his inhumane warehouses? Has any of those overexploited warehouse workers been paid fairly? The answer to both of those questions is a big fat no.

[@c.i.a9248]

@@CGaboL Bezos is a f***ing genius who improved the lives of so many people with the services of Amazon. He deserves every dollar.

[@caracrabtree715]

Does anyone know why grocery stores and large distributors don't just donate unsold food to pantries, therefore there would be more pantries, instead of destroying the food?

[@ElectricAlien577]

It takes more time and money to do so than it does to just throw it away. Also, anyone who gets food for free is a potentially lost customer. If we make it so you can only get food by buying from the store, that is obviously a clear path to increased profits. Similarly, amazon warehouses destroy mountains of perfectly good products every year because its more cost effective to destroy them and order another if/when needed than it is to store the product long term in hope someone will buy it. This is how backwards our economic system is. Its more cost effective to destroy perfectly good things and just buy a new one later than to hold on to them until theyre needed.

[@adspreadcollective]

Semisocialism, An Alternative Government and Economic System--by Keith B. Anderson. The socialist distribution of the necessities and capitalist distribution of the luxuries and/or non-essentials. Combines socialism/capitalism into a hybrid, enhancing their positives while canceling their negatives. Taking the best of both worlds.

[@basedlibertarianz910]

enjoy eating homogenous food.

[@nickolimckenzie]

Unimaginable levels of food waste and terrible mismanagement of workers conditions are quite possibly the worst features of the American Reaganomics wonderland. The food industry is tied to business and financial monopoly, political corruption, climate change, destruction of local ecosystems and communities, price gouging, wasting water, and so much more. I have never seen any other issue so pointed that it encapsulates every critique of a for-profit system taken to a ridiculous degree. (Except for maybe the current climate situation itself, but food is inseparable from that threat)

[@robertittig3317]

this can't continue, we needed change yesterday.

[@007kingifrit]

holy shit this channel is super extreme; lets go over the problems with it 1. food insecurity is calculated by asking if you know where your next meal is coming from, not if you are hungry. so its a vastly exaggerated thing to equate those 2 2. we DO technically produce enough food for everyone but food expires and the time it would take to reach the people who need it would make it impossible to ship it there....so in real terms....no.....we don't produce enough for everyone 3. you contribute to society or you don't eat is not a rule of capitalism.....its a rule of all nature and life. every system. the spider that doesn't spin a web does not catch flies and thus dies. 4. communism had MORE starving people than capitalism does

[@AxmedGurey_Al-Ghazi]

Socialism or barbarism

[@05Matz]

Nothing to add, commenting for impact. Thank you for your work.

[@PaleGhost69]

This answer to starvation, poverty, obesity, climate change and wage slavery is one word: *PERMACULTURE*

[@noahnavarro1008]

It really is incredible to me that we haven't socialized food production

[@007kingifrit]

we tried that. because idustrial farming isn't fun nobody wants to do it. which means nobody WILL do it if you don't let them profit . food production goes down....not up